Pure Living For Life Update! (Edited) What Really Happened To Jesse and Alyssa!
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2022
- **Updated Update Video**
The original video has been edited with certain information redacted to maintain within the current YT community guidelines.
Here is the original video description:
Hi all if you are wondering what Pure Living For Life is up to or where they went you are not alone. They have been off the grid so to speak for almost a year now. I believe they put their house for sale so I don't suspect they will be finishing it. This will come as a huge disappointment to the loyal followers who had hoped to watch their home get completed.
For those of you who want to follow a true off the grid micro farm make sure to subscribe. Come spring time I will start posting videos of the homestead we bought (this is a real homestead from the turn of the century we are revitalizing) and it is truly off the grid with no option to even run power to the property if i wanted to! I will also be featuring made in America tools and we will be fixing up the 100+ year old homesteaders cabin that is still on the place!
Recently PLFL has put out a Cyber Bullying video specifically with clips taken out of context from this video as well as malicious and misleading editing implying that I have orchestrated anti PLFL chat groups as well as contacted friends, family, associates, co-workers, etc... of theirs as well as looked up publicly available information about them such as divorce/marriage records, land title info etc... Although they have not flat out accused me directly of this, with the editing they did and the selective clips from this video they strung together that is the conclusion many people have made (I can't blame people for coming to that conclusion I would have myself if I was a casual viewer!) I have NOT engaged in any of these activities in any way shape or form. In fact I would argue plfl are the real cyber bullies and they don't even realize it! If your initial intent was to comment on here to tell me I'm a bully etc... save it until after I have a chance to finish my rebuttal to the nonsense PLFL has put out.
Why does PLFL have an issue with me, its pretty straight fwd, they think i doxed them with this video because initially it was published without some of the MLS info redacted. RUclips legal even got involved and the video was reinstated. To be doxed there has to me malicious intent which there never was. In fact I never received a community strike which I would have if they had been doxed. TY legal did tell me however their policies were evolving and they were moving away from anyone being able to show an address so I was advised to blur out certain parts which I did. In hind site I would have taken a different approach to the way I created the video but it is what it is now.
So why did I create it in the first place? It's pretty simple, PLFL fans had been starved on content for a long time and I am building up a channel that I think would have similar audience interest to what theres is. My intent was to get people who liked the DIY off grid build / homestead lifestyle type videos introduced to my channel. Thats it plain and simple.
I've read your rebuttal--a couple of times.
The clip taken from your video is just one of many from all sorts of people from all sorts of online platforms. I think Pure Living for Life made it pretty clear (and I tend to agree) that it is the amalgamation of ALL the videos, Reddit threads, social media and so on that emboldened people to do what they did.
Mob mentality at it's finest; culpability is shared.
Perhaps you could make an apology video and explain what you did and did not do?
@@sangregrandearima I am going to 👍
@@NorthFork I would consider taking direct contact to them first. Dialogue is a very efficient way to get to a mutual understanding. Every thing you say on a video or write fx here, is subject to interpretation and thus misunderstandings. PLEASE help us all to get a better You Tube.
@@jesperhviid9625
My preference would be to have a private conversation with them. I have no idea how to contact them. I want to give them an opportunity to take the part with me in it out as it is completely misleading and derogatory and edited in a fashion to make the average viewer assume I was engaged in certain tings I had no part of.
@@NorthFork if you go to their you tube page, you can find face book, instagram, and home page adresses. You can even press a button to ask for an e mail or other connection means. Else I would try expressing your wish in older videos from them. I think you will succeed, good luck
Thanks for the update
No problem 👍
Too bad it ended this way. I wanted to see that house finished. Thanks for letting us know what you could.
I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that it might be torn down. Those timbers were never dried and, over the last couple years, have generated incredible forces detrimental to the house structure.
@@TheJimbob1603 Didn't they list it for sale and the price was basically it's land price...
They were always paranoid about people finding out just where they are.
Which wasn't hard if you knew the area.
If you've been disappointed, felt lied to, saw narcissistic behavior at its best....
Watch "WILD WONDERFUL OFF-GRID"
this is a beautiful young family where mum n dad (have 3 great kids) DID build their a frame home...have a farm..chicken, sheep, hogs, goats & cows...
Their boys have great work ethics too.great kids
I love their channel as well!
their boys...hmmm, hardly ever see them on there working... do you mean the Holler Homestead with their 4 boys and recently a girl?
I have been following this one for a long time and yes they do better than with this couple, but what I am finding out more and more (because I follow more) that youtube money and sponsorship is very important and that disgusts me... I want to see people who just purely post a vlog
Love that channel!!
@@anshardeman3967 I think most people start out with just vlogging to share with friends and family their builds. But then interest starts peaking when they realize that there is income from youtube adverts. Then I think they realize that vlogging on youtube can be more than a hobby but a viable business. Then they start taking on sponsorships or partners who can actually provide more income. I like WWOG and I have watched them for the last 4 or 5 years. I would love to be a Patreon supporter for every channel I subscribe too but I can't. There are a few channel that I watch who are not getting partnerships and it is refreshing but they usually are just showing their lives and not trying to turn youtube vlogging into a business.
They used everyone they could to get it built, now off to greener pastures. Didn't like Jesse at all. I started following the channel but stopped after buying all the heavy equipment. He sucked in so many knuckleheads to give their labor.
I was an avid follower until they started shadow banning my comments, which weren't even mean spirited. Then it became obvious that they were purposely dragging the build out to monetize the viewership, until they became so stretched thin that they couldn't finish anything they started. I also never understood why they were running their own saw mill when they literally live next door to a lumber mill company. It all ended up about narcissistic Jesse collecting toys and Yuhlissa indulging her flights of fancy.
Ha another fellow Ban'r LOL Same here no harsh words just pointing out the serious flaws in their build..
Thanks for the video. I've had more than one of my subscribers request I check them out.
Im a "day late & dollar short"... woke up today [0500] to pure living for life on my your tube feed.... been watching since then now its 649pm.
I just came across this (simply because I wanted to see the final build & wanted to jump to the end)....
Unfortunately I don't think there will be an ending to the build on this channel, someone pulled land title and confirmed it was sold to the neighbor
Essentially i think viewers got fed up with them being assholes?
It takes a few episodes of watching and then it starts to sink in "hey these 2 are actually assholes..."....
Thanks for the update. Was wondering what had happened to them, and stumbled across your video this morning. I watched PLFL from the beginning and was really interested. I have to agree with others that it became obvious quickly that Jesse didn't know what he was doing. As the videos progressed, it seemed like we saw Jesse doing more crazy stuff, and we saw less and less of Alyssa. It was bad enough when they hooked up to power, but when he bought the plane, that did it for me. And then to tell your patrons you don't need them.. that was over the top. Hopefully whoever buys the place can salvage it....
It sounds like the place is sold to the neighbor behind the property.
And when you realize why, you will be glad it wasn't you. Crazy story.
I too started follow their house build from the beginning, because I too had dreams of getting out of the Rat-Race, moving from LA and building my own off grid home. It's also disheartening to know that they are selling this home. Why are they selling it and are they passing this possible money pit along to someone else? I have too many questions for them, but at this point, I really don't care anymore... Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching, I'm hoping my up coming homestead restoration will be inspirational and interesting to people like yourself. The place was built in the 1890's and is dilapidated but I want to try and salvage as much as I can!
the only way forward with this build is to demolish it
as the jesse know it all build was unsafe
start again properly
I am just curious because I unsubscribed about 3-4 years ago. I got tired of Jesse talking. He talked more than he ever did anything. The real deal breaker for me was buying a $60k-$80k airplane right in the middle of a house build. Plus they disregarded sound advice from people who knew a whole lot more about building structures then they did. Leaving the SIP Panels out in nature for so long. There was numerous problems. I will not watch their channel directly but only through one of the Redditt channels. They are/were just bad news!
Taking flying lessons and buying the plane before the house was done finished the channel off for me as well, You have exposed SIPs and an unfinished house but your wasting your time on a pilots license?? This made no sense to me either.
The problem with giving youtubers advice about the projects in the videos is that the videos are usually several weeks or longer behind. When the video gets posted, that work has most likely already been finished for a while and any help or advice is kinda too late. Plus, all or most of the advice was always negative towards them, i bet that would get old real fast. With so many negative comments, i bet it would be hard to even listen to the ones that seemed to offer real advice that was actually helpful.
Ill give it to Jessie, he did a great job marketing. They had crazy amounts of sponsors and followers, me included. I was very invested till he bought the plane. Thats when they lost me. That and the fact that it was apparent that they were never going to finish the house. Who cares about canning berries, finish the house! 🤣
Ya I was always impressed at their video marketing skills! I still find it hard to believe they killed the goose that was laying the golden eggs! I imagine however if they picked back up on the house build they would be at a million subs in a very short amount of time. I didn't care at all about the lifestyle videos they were doing I just wanted to see the house build.
@@joeyfossa3711 I saw that when doing research on what happened to them but that was actually a different Jesse Stafford
@@joeyfossa3711 you have wrong person. Your person was a chef.
Me too. It’s about greed.
@@okdoke98 Or making a living and a life?
So if you look at the satellite map, there is a large completed house with grassy yard right next door that has a dirt road between their youtube house, it seems they have been living comfortably for a while now. If you view the historical satellite images, the house also grows and expands next to the youtube house.
Interesting! I know they have neighbour's literally just over the hill on the backside of the RUclips House but I though they were the ones who own the mill in the area. People on Redit say they live in town. I am sure they are VERY comfortable considering they still have Patron's! The channel even slightly grew a little without posting videos.
@@NorthFork that makes sense, and they also don't live as remote as I thought originally, maybe 15 minutes from town. Though I do think it's weird the dirt road connects to their neighbor through the woods.
Ya never really figured that one out unless the original owner originally owned both properties and the road connected both places. Just speculating though.
The house next door has always been there, look at the aerial map in Bing. Same structures while no structures on the piffle site. The dirt road is the direction they ran the buried electrical. It runs over to the N/S road that runs past the mill. I believe the power pole is between the mill and the neighbor to the east on that street.
@@NorthFork They ran electrical over to the N/S road, that dirt path is the route they took.
Since you've been doing detective work, how about finding out what happened to the channel "Fouch Family off grid"? They also were building an off grid home and were doing well, then they just disappeared.
Here is a good article about what happened to them. Basically sounds like they were tired of the grind on social media. www.offgridnerd.com/fouch-family-off-grid/
I miss them too!!! I think from what I seen they just wanted to no do it anymore after the permaculture bs that happed with the course they took.
@@MrCustomconstruction it sounds like they got sued after when they called the guy out.
@@NorthFork that’s what I seen too. It’s sad the good family get the shaft and the tool keeps going. I really miss them and hope they are doing great.
Ya good people get trolled to the point they leave hopefully they comeback one day
I think they owe their viewers some kind of closure, maybe they don't agree. Typical, RUclips chasing their tail around in circles. Good job, thanks for the update.
If they had even one more video closing the channel off it would have been better than a canning video then nothing for 2 years. I don't think we will see anything else out of them.
Man just today I was wondering what happened to them. I had always suspected it was all marketing. They wanted YOU(tube) to pay for their toys.
Don't you want your career/side-hustle/something to pay for your toys?! People seem seriously and ridiculously butt-hurt by other people living their lives! rotflmbao
I'll never really understand the people who protest when a TV series gets cancelled, or a character gets killed off. Which says more about me than it does about them!
How I 'saw' it, was when the baby was born, things changed. The baby's arrival and it's needs overtook any previous commitments. Their choice, and the results are seen here. As to their personalities, there are many evaluations posted here. Remember, Alyss's priority is to the baby first.
Um, would that not be a normal reaction for a child being born??
@@schwags1969 Yes. I think that's what he's saying.
exactly - that's how I saw it - from the moment their baby was born ...
SMH. I wonder why they went silent. Really odd, but I remember seeing criticism in their comments. There wasn't anything that seemed bad, but idk they're lame. lol Thanks for the update! :)
It's hard to believe they even have fans anymore after the way they treated us. I followed from the beginning. Once Alyssa got pregnant, it went weird and Jesse treated subs and commenters like crap.
Calling viewers skid marks wasn't really a smart idea. I think if Jesse could have been able to handle suggestions and minor criticisms people would have backed off but after the pretentious attitude he had towards people legitimately trying to help them turned a lot of viewers off including me. I just bought a "real" homestead from the 1890's and am working on restoring it and filming the process. I am hoping that viewers give me suggestions along the way so I can consider ALL of my options and course correct if I am doing something wrong!
@@NorthFork Completely agree. I decided to see if they had uploaded anything as of late. Nope. Then I found the reddit. They were only about making money and getting free stuff. They didn't care about anyone or anything but the old mighty dollar. It's kind of scary knowing they're trying to sell that house as it's not done properly in any way. Well, the SIPS are. But not much else.
I once made a comment about the dangerous way Jesse was secured to the top of his roof with a safety harness and a rope. One slip or fall would make him a pendulum and his loose-fitting harness would hurt him more than it would help him. Mind you, I said this all with love. Well, he did respond to my comment, but he did respond to everyone else's comments around mine and he continued to work on his roof in an unsafe matter... Interesting enough, someone else gave me a thumbs up on my safety concerns for Jesse....
@@juanmorse50 I actually remember this and I believe you were referred to after that as a "safety Sally" after that. Your right a loose fitting harness will hurt you bad if you fall. I know a guy who fell with a properly fitted harness once and it was bad enough.
@@NorthFork Hahahaha! Safety Sally, really? Lol
I love it.
It just so happened, I had to take a refresher Safety Class for work a few days prior to watching that clip. And please take a good guess what that safety course was about? You guessed it, Safety Harnesses and tagging off to fixed points and most importantly, not creating a pendulum or pinata out of yourself. lol
So I, like any good Safety Sally wants to protect themselves and the safety of those around them. 😉
Truth be told, I've learn from experience, anytime I see something and don't say anything, I am the first person who gets hurt... (That's just Murphy's Law...) lol
As I was watch that video, I was praying Jesse won't slip and fall, because of his;
1.) His ill-fitting harness
2.) Extremely long rope
3.) Badly placed tag points
4.) His weight
was a recipe for diaster.
And, that's my 2 cents...
Be safe out there...
Safety Sally
Thank you very much for the update, even tho information is limited. I am a fan of their channel from the beginning, and still followed them up through the COVID 19 outbreak that "kinda" impacted my personal life. Personally, I didn't expect them to stay in that small camper the rest of their lives, and then try to raise a family under some pretty arduous winter conditions. People change and so does there method of generating income. I'm not an off the grid person, but I do believe in having a plan B, C, D or E if the electricity does go out from any type of major weather event. Nice video, thanks for the update.
They never lived in that camper, they just used it in the day for video editing, they lived in town the whole time.
Pure living for life was my first introduction why back then. I loved the series, and still miss it all the way to today. Wish they could come back. Thank you for sharing your views....
This is why if you don't do construction for a living you shouldn't take on a project like this it can go bad fast. Now your limitations
I think a lot of people watch HGTV and see a house built in 30 min and think they can do it too. Projects like this seem like a good idea at the time but I would agree most people get in over their head. However with this build they were far enough along they could have finished the house in my opinion. They did several things that I wouldn't have done like the manor in which they secured the timber frame to the foundation but for the most part siding and interior finishes, plumbing / electrical they could have chipped away at or subbed some of the trades to get it livable. Pretty uncomfortable to be living in a construction zone though if they actually were living there.
@@NorthFork exactly. There's things they could have done there self but get qualified individuals to do certain things
At first I enjoyed what they were doing, but down the line, Jesses inability to take advice and or do what was necessary to dry in the house, put house wrap on it, even it was temporary. and that once they did get the roof on, they were always doing projects that did not help get the house finished. it also bothered me that he was able to buy a plane and fly somewhere and not be working in the house. it started to look like a scam and they only put videos out to collect revenue from patreons and youtube. There so many other youtube channels of people actually working hard to build a house and be self sufficient
He was VERY against house wrap, if its not sided yet the OSB is likely ruined. That for me was bizarre that they would not wrap the house. Its too bad they didn't at least finish the outside :(
I agree with you Bill on this as well. It is very clear to me that PLFL became a huge cash crab. They went from building a house, to living a high off the hog lifestyle. They have no idea what life is like for us poor folks. But instead of taking our critisisms, and doing better, they instead turned into ruthless comment haters, who had their entire channel come flag our posts as SPAM, until our channels got terminated and we lost all our video's. I hate RUclips now as a creator, I am just a viewer now. But PLFL became total frauds and they know it, its the reason they don't upload no more.
i dont think it was ever a house,, more of a stage prop, as they never cared a bought anything getting covered in ice an snow, rain,, never showed the whole up stairs just tiny sections,, looked to me always as a move set,, fake..
@@arnoldromppai5395 Im not sure what their plan ever was as nothing ever got completed but even if the entire thing was a stage prop you would think they would at least put siding on the house so it wouldn't rot on them
@@NorthFork not really, we all know you tube works off interaction, and for them not putting siding on, know that would bring in steady comments, witch you tube would push out the videos more, . i have seen how they have always operated from never finishing anything to start having a few chickens to not having anything at all , including garden that turned to nothing but weeds, i have most always seen it as a fake move prop. never meant to go any were but help them make a shit load of money.. greed,, , spend money at a loss to make money, its all a tax write off. anyone that ever believed they really lived there year round in an RV with a light tarp over in in 5 feet of snow, 30 below, were so wrong,, hell i use to go on 10 day moose hunts here in NW Ont. Canada in late Oct. early Nov. nd with oven and gas heaters on every thing was wet in side, cold as hell from the waste down in a 23 foot 5th wheel.. frozen water if we didnt winterize it,, yet they were showing ruining water,, clips from summer but showing dead of winter.. hell i never took my suit off on them trips.. it was all ment never to finish anything.. it all a set STAGE TO ME.. LIKE REALLY, YOUR BUILDING THIS HUGE HOME, BUYING 3/4 OF A MILLION IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT, TAKING FLYING LESSONS, BUYING A COSTLY PLAN, TRAVAILING,, ALL ON CASH,, FROM NOT HAVING pot to piss in..
Search for this: " Some drunk nutbar in an excavator keeps plowing snow and rocks onto
Parker Canyon Road in the middle of the night, he films himself doing it for the Pure Living for Life RUclips channel " The comment was found in the Bonners Ferry
Transportation Plan PDF file.
Thats a huge document, do you know what page this is in on the document?
Ok found this, it is on pdf page 81 of 104. Originally I thought this was a comment by the engineering firm that was doing the road report (which would have been unprofessional and a little bazar) but it was a public comment by one of the community members. I laughed out loud when I read the comment it was kind of funny to read this in a professional document about traffic concerns for the area.
oh snap - *THAT'S* funny!
I was disappointed that they stopped putting content on youtube as someone that followed them for a good length of time. I believe the last house-related project was them installing the tiles/backsplash for the downstairs kitchen area outside of all the gardening content. I enjoyed the fact that they let us see or come along on the plane rides as with seeing where Jesse was from and meeting his family along with going back to Alyssa's college town. I had watched many hours of house-building footage and learned quite a bit along the way. The abruptness was both confusing and worrisome as one may have thought something bad may have happened. I hope they are doing well and at the end of the day they don't really owe any of us an explanation it's their life, good luck to them.
You referred to Jesse visiting his Father…
Shortly there after his father was arrested for threatening the Editor of the Local Newspaper in His area. Funny thing about that is the Ole Man was living in a 5th Wheel RV Trailer that he parked on land which had been parked on land that had been clear-cut logged.
Thanks
If you look at the current google maps street view for that location, the lot where they were building their house is completely cleared. The image capture date says Nov 2021. Did someone buy the property and level the house?
Thats not the day that the image was taken, its an upload date from google, which doesnt mean the pic was just taken. My wife and i own 46 acres in the southwest and when looking at our property, the image says "imagery 2022 GOOGLE imagery MAXAR TECHNOLOGIES", but its a VERY outdated image from when the prior owner had it because we have done significant earth works to the land, as well as the owners of the surrounding farm land.
I'm not surprised that there might be issues with the SIPS. I have a friend that's a SIP builder and his panels fit like a glove and the panels are very large. He assembles with a specific caulk between the panels. He tests his houses with a blower door and they are very tight and there ae far fewer panels involved.
PLFL installation really turned me off of SIPS after seeing their videos
@@NorthFork Properly installed, they're great. Check out Extreme Panel from Cottonwood MN.
@@adubbelde1 I will check it out. I like the idea of them but seeing the PLFL videos it makes them look like more of a haste than they are worth.
@@NorthFork Properly installed they are fabulous.
Do you know any more about the rumor, they never actually lived on the property.
People keep saying, disillusioned when he got the plane. A plane being so far out of my "want" zone, it never made an impression. But her spending my entire monthly budget on sheets (400? thread count ?), really put me off.
I don't know anything on that front for sure but I would speculate when they had the camper/shed set-up they likely stayed in it occasionally when they first started out and in the summer. I don't think the house was set up enough to actually stay there especially with a baby. So that being said I am sure the rumors they live in town are true, at least in the winter. It would be hard to spend the winter full time at their place the way it is I think.
There was an episode while they were "living in the shelter" that they supposedly just opened the door to go out after it just snowed and there were footprints in the snow. Several times they showed jesse adding wood to the wood stove, grabbing the handle with his bare hand. When it's that cold and poorly insulated, you don't let fires go out, let alone dead cold. Things just started adding up, they weren't living in the shack. They brought a bed into the house, but it never had stuff around or near it. You know, like your alarm, cords to charge your phone, hell even a flashlight to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, down in the basement.
Did they ever stay there? Maybe.
jesse actually showed a delivery bill
that had an address in
the local town
early on there was thick snow on the ground
but had tracks leading up to the rv
another time snow was piled high on the chimney of the boiler
that jessse stated ran 24/7
many small things like that
went unnoticed
For me when he said anyone that uses an adblocker is a thief, I unsubscribed immediately and never looked back.
Ya that was bizarre when he scolded people who used ad blockers because he wouldn't get the ad revenue.
And he said, if you aren’t watching the ads, “shame on you!” Yeh, that’s when I unsubscribed.
@@katesterner Ya that was something else!
He was kind of douchey and she was very sweet.
Yep. Being scolded by someone who knows very little about construction, and refuses to listen to people who are trying to give him advice drove away a lot of views
Do they still own the property on Parker Canyon Rd? Or has it been sold?
Stay tuned another update video coming shortly that will answer this question…
I'm not a expert but watching them build the house they did some things that made no sense!
Ya there was a lot of things that made me question what they were doing like how they attached the timber frame to the foundation, the refusal to put tyvex or some other house wrap over the OSB, building out a bathroom in the garage when the main house didn't have a bathroom, not getting the electrical done in the main house, heat????, putting a gravity fed water system in then drilling a well, building a hot tub before their house, the list goes on. I'm just disappointed we didn't get the see the rest of the house build get finished.
I saw through their bs halfway through their videos. I'm amazed that nobody has seen their other video! ? Personally Jessie is a POS, his fake smile was starting to show the cracks in him as a person. Jessie disgusted me. She deserve someone so much better.
My question is why hasn't any work been done on the house for the last 2 years, It looks the same to me and they didn't even mention it in the " we're running out of money video" (product placement) so now they come back with one person shown on the property without their permission and they were being bullied so they couldn't work on their house for 2 years? Did anyone else notice shortly after they had their water well put in (the water quality wasn't very good) all work on the House stopped
After reading the comments section here- thank you everyone for answering my questions on what happened to their channel. I kinda moved on after he began his flying lessons, at the time I purchased a house "on grid" in need of total repair, and PLFL was doing nothing for me. I think the last video I watched was him putting the metal roof on. I have a full time job, work on the house 2-3 hours afterwards all most every night, days off, that type of thing. I'm holding my own and it's coming along. I have a move in date written down somewhere, like June-July 2022. I watch several channels, research all options, with the goal of being the most energy effective cost saving "on grid" homeowner I can be. I do all work myself, foundation for addition, framing, sheathing, roofing, all plumbing, electrical, floors, windows, even the excavating. It's 2350 sq.ft 3 full bathrooms, 4 bedrooms on 2 acres. I currently just finished the HVAC, and now working towards finishing the electric. No deals, sponsors, or tricks, just some good old fashion sweat equity. I paid 295k, I've invested 86k in materials and feel I saved close to 80k-90k so far, doing all the work myself. All I can say is follow your dream, be honest with yourself, and open to all the ideas and options that are available. It can happen.
Thanks for the comment. That’s what I want to do with my channel. Do my own build and put in the sweat equity on my cabin restoration. I have no on grid option but would take it if it was available. I lost interest when the focus was light reviews vs house build.
It sounds as though you are doing everything right just the opposite of PLFL.
@@lockedin60 That is my plan, whatever they did basically do the opposite, at least when it comes to taking advise!
so one question is all that proves things, was the house /really/ listed for sale because from plfl it seems there trying to say that it wasnt?
It might not have been where I am from if it’s on mls it has officially been listed. I was informed after that that is not the case in the US
Now I'm confused lol, did you see a listing of it for sale before or after you said it's was for sale in the original video?
@@lezbriddon I saw a listing for it that had a off market status if I remember correctly. Where I’m from a listing with that status was at a minimum recently for sale. I came to the conclusion the property has been formally for sale
@@NorthFork so they can't really deny it, no doubt you have some backup image or whatever. I can't see there being listings like that of houses that where never for sale .....
My $0.02, they had a lot of pressure, maybe from bullying or just house building stress and split up. House goes up for sale but didn't sell, during that time they reconciled and it's back on for round 2. But I'm just an outsider looking in with a guess, but the 'working away at the house for the last 3 years' seems to have resulted in just one subfloor I could do in a week so I think my guess may be a good guess. I really do wish them every success though, I like how Jesse does things his own way but he is a whiner when challenged on things which is why I didn't comment on his antics after the battery issues in the first year
@@lezbriddon I wish them the best I’m sure they are under a lot of stress and pressure.
Despite all the constructive criticisms , I thought Alyssa did a fantastic job on several occasions. Especially putting the roof on... I was like please ... don't fall!
i was always suprised that niether one was severly hurt
Yes!!! What a trooper! Just sad that they were a big part of our lives then GONE. Like their viewers meant NOTHING. Oh well. My husband and I did these things when we were younger, now we watch others do it!🤣
They installed the roof decking improperly.
I just stopped getting them in recommended, and went on to other videos and creators, not the first thats happened, their build was interesting, but people need to let shit go, maybe butt hurt for giving them a donation idk, internet sucks now with so many losers having no life and too much time on their hands
I wanted to know as well. Honestly, I got to the point to not caring for the guy.
People get too wrapped up in RUclips channels. I watched their channel for a long time, but after a while the build seems to drag on and they were drifting off into other areas and their incomplete house didn't seem to bother them and Alyssa got pregnant, etc.. so I grew board with the channel and moved on. I would never complain about anyone's video, if I don't like it, I simply quit watching... that's what happened with their channel, and so I moved on, I didn't get pissed, I don't hound people on the net who complain about them, I just find other things to watch. They promoted their channel like they were off grid, and the off grid crowd can get testy if you do something like fly in a plane, or connect to the electrical grid. I'm not an 'off grid' type person, and I have nothing against anyone who does, but Jesse & Alyssa seemed to play it off like they were 'off grid' types when they really weren't. They haven't posted in a year, so I guess they're done with the work involved in putting out regular content (which is hard, and a lot of work to do consistently).
Exactly. My experience was the same. I wasn't interested in the new content so I moved on. Then I dropped back in later and the comments were full of trolls. Post after post with all kinds of crazy accusations. Like the baby was fake. WTF. All because they weren't doing what the youtube experts told them to do. Build your house my way or else was the mentality. Really nasty childish stuff. I see some of that in the comments here as well.
If gmaps is up to date As far as I can see the house is still there the backhoe is there a truck is there a big van and possibly 2 more vehicles
I think the sat image is outdated
@@NorthFork what's a nother sat image app to look from
I often wonder what happend to them I remember he was calling people out who skip adds on RUclips and people got pissed in comments
I always thought they were full of themselves.
I have been ACTUALLY OFF GRID HOMESTEADING since 1990 in the same county as them. and frankly these guys made me sick. Like all the people like me who really homestead, snowmobiling 18 miles round trip from mid December till mid may, keeping a hydro electric system functioning, raising animals and food. It’s not that rate around here.
It was clear from early days
These guys were yuppie grifters that came in with a new media plan to make a fortune on you tube. They fronted being broke but all of us actually have gone through this could see plainly this was never the case, land hasn’t been cheap here or anywhere since the early 90s when the last of the hippie homesteaders could afford bare land and give it a go..
Then of course as the millions rolled in from the armchair wannabes and the $90k pickup the airplane, sawmill,backhoe, excavator, even that $15k rock grizzly (sifter)you knew the house flip was coming. Usually these types end up divorcing and clear cutting for the log money before selling to some idiot and moving back to California.
BTW no matter exactly where they are in the county ( and it’s clearly not far from town since they were even able to bring in power ) that bare lot alone is worth 200k minimum, with the house ( half the houses in this county are self built ) closer to 750k this RE markets been on a tear for 40 years they knew it would appreciate good for them.
What I object to is the pretend homesteading and making others think you can easily do this. They had massive help, others built their foundation and first floor, and the timber framer school built there house in return for the promo.
unlike most of us they had a quarter million in heavy equipment at there disposal also an architect and engineer designed the thing for them. Sorry that’s nothing like homesteading or off grid living.
We just bought an original homestead from the 1890's that has been abandon and overgrown for at least the last 30+ years and are trying to bring it back to some semblance of what it was and it is a ton of work, we have no option of grid power but still use a generator occasionally. It is a LOT of work. PLFL seemed to be more of an acreage development on the hi-way by town which is fine but viewers were initially sold the project as an off grid homestead development and it just turned into a DIY debt free home build (because of RUclips and Patron support). At least finish the actual build before you burn your $$ on an airplane and jam videos! Like you said the average person living off grid just starting up doesn't have a quarter million in equipment to get started. I know on my place all I am starting with is my pickup truck and a 20 year old Honda quad. Hopefully I can get some equipment one day but short term its just not reality.
yes i been at it raising livestock and gardens for 30 years for people in need and i cant afford even an old tractor. im 60 now and i dont ever see it possible.. i bought my raw land at 18 cash,, was nothing but timber,,
WTF, they make you sick? Why are you so insensitive about how other people live.
@@murfreeA Scammers/grifters like Jesse and Alyssa should make every sane person sick! Shame on you for defending scammers.
Other people making you sick is a you problem, not a they problem. Maybe start working on being a better, helthier person ok?
thanks for the update. The satirical Cartoons were the BEST.
Lol ya I wish they would have kept up with them
I was so dissapointed when there was such a discontinuity in their story when they had their child. You could see how they just stopped caring about this series they had started. Not to mention they didnt do the best job. If anyone finds this comment in the future. Go look up Good Simple Living. They have did exactly what this couple was supposed to do. Except their home isnt yet electrically off grid yet. But they built their home themselves minus some outsourcing of the permit required things.
Watched from beginning then nothing. Too bad since time invested by viewers who became attached to the build process and the two of them. Hope they are well and enjoying life as parents.
I feel for the people that gave money to this couple that ripped donors off . If anything Jessie and Alyssa should be sued for scamming these people out of their hard earned money. All this was just a marketing scam to make Jessie and Alyssa quick rich. Everything should be sold off and pay the donors back their money.
Not sure if there was anything to give back one commenter pulled public records and it sounds like there was a 70 some odd thousand builders lean against the property
why would they not side the place if this kind of major flaw would occur? I do not get it, after all the work they did. Inspection issues?
If you watched their old videos he is adamantly against it and says it’s a scam.
i watched the build till the point where they made them self seem like timberframing experts and then have other pay to build their home for them. also i knew this house would be flawed from the moment they showed honeycombing in the foundation because they did not vibrate when the concrete was poured.
I was surprised they didn't vibrate the concrete as well
The drywall nightmare, 200 screws per panel, lolol
I watched all the way to the end of their videos. Am still subscribed, should they ever post again.
Yes, I found Jesse to be thin skinned and abrasive. But I view all my subscription for the entertainment value. So I was not offended by his behavior.
I do wonder what he is doing for a living now, as I don't think he had any particular skill.
He has another carpet cleaning channel on youtube as well from before PLFL so he might have went back to that business
I hope Alyssa had the good sense to drop him like a hot potato.
@@ohasis8331 Not sure if there is any truth to this, but my understanding is that their child may have been born prematurely, or with some health issue. That sure puts a crimp on an otherwise normal ambitious life... anybody here have insight?
@@NorthFork Not exactly an exciting watch.
@@freundron I hope not. That would be very sad for them.
Under the status label it says off market. That means it’s not for sale.
I think they put a lot of work into the project but they had a lot of help. I also wondered why there was no siding of some kind on the house. Even with the supposed problems I would think it was worth more than 233k
One of the commenters did some research and found the neighbor has bought the place, sounds like it is just sitting empty now. I'm still surprised covering the OSB wasn't a priority. I would have thought the lot with a half built house would have been worth a bit more myself but maybe there just inst a super strong market in the area.
The major fatal flaw is the way the SIP panels and drywall were attached to the beams. Drywall isn't structural. Why would you sandwich drywall between the SIP's used for the roof and the structural beams?
The entire roof needs to come off, drywall removed and the SIP's back on before the metal roof panels are applied.
Now that two or three years have passed, I'd be concerned about the structural integrity of the SIP OSB being exposed to the weather for this amount of time. Then the little problem of the attachment of the beams to the flooring if I recall correctly? No tie plates of the beams to the SIP foundation.
@@NorthFork I thought they got lucky hitting water at a fairly shallow point during the digging of the well as with it being so close to the house remember they had water storage on top of the hill before getting that well dug. Another thing they did was run the electric cables up to the house along with putting all that rock up the hill in the driveway. That is a lot of work even with the heavy equipment he had to do it with.
Their problem was u-tube demonitizing their visions...they said F- it...
Pure Living For Life (PLFL) address is a private.
But " the neighbor next door " Thick & Thin Breams and Lumber company in Bonners Ferry, Idaho is public domain.
PLFL Motto = Fake it until you make it !
OMG, How Funny! Not at all What I pictured, surprised you could never hear the lumber yard right over the hill. lolol
One of the hardest things in life to deal with is success. The very reason most lottery winners end up broke. Being humble and understanding you are not better than just because you are better off. Something these two never learned. A video that was done implying tax evasion of income. After that I knew his true colors and stopped watching that channel.
A lot of people have trouble being humble if they have been successful. I missed the video about the tax stuff. I stopped watching after they stopped working on the house build and started making videos on snow plowing etc... I kept popping by the channel to see if they had resumed the build but unfortunately not.
Thanks, I watched them from the beginning and they dropped off the face of the Earth! Hmmm
No one in their right mind will buy this house. I dropped their channel about two years ago as they wandered off their original vision and Jessie became just to smug for me.
Sounds like the neighbor behind them bought the property likely just to own the land bordering their own property
They're back to posting now and posted as recently as two days ago
Just saw it. That was a boring comeback video. I want to see house build!
@@NorthFork I suspect it was just a test to see how many would return notice the only time the husband was in it was in archival footage.
i watched the build from the start, what happed? they are getting a divorce or something?
I don't know if anyone here knows that for sure but someone pulled land title and confirmed they sold the property to the neighbor
Despite it being obvious he'd never held a hammer in his life, Jesse wouldn't take advice. This maybe made tradespeople feel even more inclined to help him out, but he'd just get more and more snarky. I think in his head he wanted to make this backwoods timber homestead and everyone would gush all over his manly ruggedness, but that massive chip on his shoulder just got more obvious as it dragged on. He was certainly smart enough to realise that there was a massive RUclips audience for armchair off gridders, and they milked that 'old time pioneer settler' vibe like the gifted shyster marketeers they were. But he wasn't as charismatic as Wranglerstar, he was just an uptight annoying potato.
Wranglerstar is a complete narcissist. A fear-mongering, click-bate lunatic.
Lol
The guy didn't even know how a tape measure worked, literally.
Don't get me started on Wranglestar. Grrr.
I unsubbed from wranglerstar at the same time as this pair.
THey are back apparently Pure Living for Life, new video of them up
I tried offering him advice like others.
Big mistake, he wants to argue and tell you that you are wrong and that he knows better.
@@-XtraCredit- Then don't read it. Easy enough to do.
If someone is doing something dangerous that could get them killed, for example, working on electrics, a decent person should warn them before they get hurt. I have made how to videos in the past and I welcome any input from others more experienced than me. The trolls you can just delete easily.
@@-XtraCredit- Because people like that will try to do it again. They don't know better because no one bothered to tell them.
If they still do it after being warned, then YES, they are just ignorant on purpose and probably should get zapped.
@@-XtraCredit- If I see a person working on a live circuit then I don't need to "assume," I know they are doing stupid, and likely to do it again in the future.
But if you don't feel like commenting then don't.
You do you and I will do me. It's all fine.
@@-XtraCredit- I think for you it is a good idea turning off comments. You don't seem to take different views very well.
@@-XtraCredit- Yes they certainly did.
My best example is a channel showing me about fixing something on a car. I always read the comments too because they give me extra help. One comment may say, "Hey I got this tool on Amazon and it makes the job a lot easier." So I get the tool and even though the original video is fine, that extra tool cut my time in half. Win, win for me.
So, I consider the comments just as important as the video and if you skip the obvious haters and trolls comments they can help us DIYers a lot.
The haters do get on the nerves after a while, I agree on that. :(
I started watching quite early on into the house building and enjoyed the process of the house going up. However, I realised they were making all sorts of mistakes, ones that they should have avoided if they'd done their research. This make me realise they either didn't care or didn't want to learn. After a while their channel moved from building a house to canning foods and creating a garden. Finally it was "power tool reviews/comparisons" and I realised they were never going to finish it. At that point I'd stopped watching because it was clear there was no house building being done. It was also clear the house would have to be pulled down, at least in part, because the one year of OSB exposure had been passed.
Ya I was also disappointed when the they went on grid
Looks like they are coming back
Who builds a house with 6 bedrooms and only 1 bathroom? 😮
I think at that time the bathroom was only in the garage, the main living levels hadn't been worked on. Not sure how they came up with 6 bedrooms though
@@NorthFork Yeah, IDK, Thanks.
The upstairs was going to be a full living quarter to include bathrooms/kitchen/bedrooms etc. I wanted to see them continue the build the closest we got was computer-generated renderings which looked quite nice.
I’ve missed pure livening for life someone on the internet saying that Jessie had died is this true or false please help me to understand what is happening
He is not dead that was just a fake news article
Thanks for the reply thanks very much
When the baby was born, something strange happened. No images of the child were ever shown. Because they had been so open about everything, I thought this was odd...Then they disappeared....Hmmmm......
I assumed the baby had died,they declined any gifts for the baby and acted like pure idiots. I thought they would at least reveal the gender. I unsubscribed right after all that weirdness…haven’t regretted a minute of doing so.
Whatever he reason, it shall remain one of life's mysteries that I'll like forget about in 20 minutes.
it was the purchase of the plane for me. I thought, I'm working 60 hours a week to make ends meet and here they are ... IDK. just didn't feel right.
Ya I couldn't figure out why they got into flying on their channel when the house was no where complete. I think they just ran out of gas and cash and couldnt finish it. Having a baby before the house was done was not smart either.
15 minutes of google search, 10min google maps and whoooop there ist the house.... XD
$233K seems to be about the price of 5 acres of land up there! -- without a house. The house must have a fatal flaw. I was looking forward to the installation of the floor heat, the front porch, siding, external wood furnace and 1st floor plumbing. I would have thought he would have extended the beam out in front to hold up the front deck. I know Jesse did a lot of product reviews, but they never sold any swag (t-shirts, hats). It seems Jesse thought he could be one of the youtubers that buys products to review to get clicks -- his shop vac review was really silly.
Yeah, the fatal flaw is all of those SIP panels probably are trash by now and need to be replaced. They kept refusing to put on any siding and those only had like a year max rating exposed to weather. Even if not, with prices as they are now for construction material, it would likely cost another 100k-200k to actually hire a contractor to finish it if any would be willing.
@@CrimFerret If I remember correctly, the SIP manufacturer gave only several weeks to element exposure, they are for sure 100% right offs.
@@stuarttthomas7847 why would they not side the place if this kind of major flaw would occur? I do not get it, after all the work they did. Inspection issues?
@@hockeynutt9434 I personally think he had some sort of legal issue with the SIP manufacturer, remember they delivered them uncovered, but he fitted them anyways and then tried for some sort of refund, only a guess, nothing else makes any sense.
The fatal flaws started with the foundation and worked up from there. Pure lies for loot is what the channel transformed into, I'm glad to say I was on the banned list pointing out their construction errors..
I was a huge fan from the beginning, and was especially excited by the timber frame build. However, when Jesse decided to "talk" to the subscribers and basically tell us they didn't need us anymore and to go watch other channels, I was done. Even though the vast majority do not know them, after years of watching, you feel a connection. Getting slapped in the face severs that connection real fast!
Jezus Christ whiney entitled brat...
5 acres alone would bring 200-400K in much of Idaho
I’m betting Jesse never finished a thing! But that’s just me!!!
That is what Alyssa said.
i watched from early on and always questioned the rather stupid power bank knowing it was always going to be a first to fail problem. before all else point of use power generation sufficient to do the job with excess to spare is mandatory for off grid anyone with common sense would know this and see that ultimately they would either fix the bank or tie into the grid i was done with them before the tie in but the lead up to it was enough to prove many of their nay-sayers right which is kind of sad, the house could have been so much epic
edit: after reading some of the comments im glad i dropped them around the 'pretending' mark some of the things they got up to after seem outright insane
The house could have been great. I really didn't like that they went with the SIPS, I would have preferred a more traditional build out. All I could see with the SIPS was a bunch of garbage (chip board and Styrofoam) that made it hard to do wiring, plumbing etc... Too bad they didn't keep at it they could have had a nice house. Also the way they attached the timeframe to the foundation was sketchy at best IMO.
They've grifted up another video today, as usual, comments disabled.
i started watching their channel, the timber frame was interesting then it went to hell in a handbasket!! when they bought the plane & equipment i knew they had money coming in hand over fist from something!!! I guess it is great for them BUT remember Jessi, Karma is a bitch when she comes back around!!!!
The only thing that I really didn't like on the timber frame was the way they secured it to the foundation
There's another channel called "the do it yourself world" and Troy, he's always claimed to be off gird and living in a tiny house but it was all a fraud. He still tries to claims he's off grid but his battries have been dead for years. So many people have called him out on his fraud and scams.
Funny how people try and pull that stunt
Sounds like Nomadic Fanatic. People started figuring out his BS years ago. He would get one parody channel shut down only to have a few more show up.
Red poopy ranch is getting that way, how many time did he redo the porch roof...
I haven’t watched their stuff for awhile. I have to binge watch a few episodes.
I agree the guy is strange and keeps rebuilding everything. Stopped watching a while ago.
I really enjoyed watching that, but the UNSAFE-NESS of his building bothered me a lot. Heath cut corners a lot and kept saying he just wanted it to be HIS build, which is fine, his choice. But with all those in his family depending on him, I really couldn't watch a lot of the episodes. I think he rebuilds for VIEWS...
@@savannahsmiles1797 I think you are right, seems to be a pattern with this guy.
I did wonder what happened to them...
Connecting the timber frame to foundation was overseen by code inspector = long term subscribers that watched daily videos watched Jessy stay up with codes
The only codes in their area are plumbing and electrical. They don't need anyone watching them put on their frame because there aren't codes for that.
Concrete work was full of honeycombs..
That guy Jesse trying to disrespect drywallers when he did the bathroom is when I left. Its an art, anyone can slap mud on the wall but I guess I was just triggered at the whole thing.
I have done a small amount of my own drywall and it just gave me that much more respect for guys that do it for a living!
I would sale to if I were in there shoes especially with today’s property prices compared to when they bought that place
You Tube is hard work and with a new baby in an unfinished house it is nigh on impossible. Plus dealing with that level of online abuse would put a lot of people off. I still subscribe and saw their recent release, if they are reading this, come back when ready, I’d happily keep watching, even with all your flaws you made good content.
To be fair, Jesse brought that up on him, himself. He was Arrogant, condescending and treated their subscribers and patreon members like dirt. When certified craftsmen gave him advice about how to do things the right way, he rejected them and basically told them they didn't knew anything, and he knew everything about building a timber frame house.
They got a lot of nasty comments, but Jesse was part of the problem, and he didn't do anything to correct that.
You are a cyber bully and those who have aligned themselves with you are bullies as well. You have been reported.
I was also caught up in the beginning with what they were doing, but it became evident that Jesse really didn't know what he was doing (watching utube videos and saying you're watching them for instruction is ok, but he always claimed that he knew everything) and the time spent listening to Jesse talking became more and more and when they mistakes became so evident I just stopped watching them. I considered them one of the great youtube scammers.
A few key things really turned my off the channel like when they went on grid (The channel was originally about debt free off grid living), then the way he secured the timber frame to the foundation with screws. I have seen a few timber frames secured to modern concrete foundations and none of them were done this way, the way he did it didn't even look safe to me but he sure didn't like the criticism or suggestions he got about the way to do it. He wasn't a tradesman that's for sure but at least take some advice from people who know what they are doing. I was hoping to see the rest of the house build but I don't think that is going to happen.
had stopped looking at this a long time ago, don't need people who just want to advise things by testing them and not finishing the house
because that's what we were looking at, I think
then also the child remains out of the picture, fine but don't be secretive about this ... even though the child may have an abnormality or you grant it privacy
you can talk about this normally, but honestly and not childish
I understand that a lot of people have complained was one of them myself, but not to youtube but to them
I knew they'd wind up selling that property. No matter how hard they tried to blow smoke in everyone's faces the truth ultimately prevails.
I really miss them
Said no one
The edited and or posted a new video 16 minutes ago, pure living for life
Kindof a Shame really, sure they made a lot of mistakes, but personally I had written those off as common things people who have no experience in construction often do, thier channel had a lot of potential had they stuck with it.
oddly I dont live all to far from the house location, if fuel prices drop or if i am in the area, perhaps i'll drive past & see if they ever did more.
Please let us know if they made progress next time your out that way!
I wonder if there’s google image of the property? I’m in England would love to see if they’ve done anything to it.
@@jent1437 I think someone looked it up and it was an outdated photo.
@@jent1437 the satellite image on google is several years old not sure if another service has a current pic
@@jent1437 nothing recent enough to be useful.
I stopped watching when they started to get on grid. Drilled a well, connected to the grid, and even got wired internet. Defiantly not what they started out to be about.
Ya it went from off grid living to an acreage development project on grid by the hi-way. Not what I signed up for when I first started watching the channel but I still wanted to see the house to completion as I had invested my time to that point.
Any truth to the post about him being dead?
No that was just a spoof article someone published
Numerous issues from the start: got too much help from others, weren't transparent like they said they were going to be, bought a truck, bought a plane, went on grid, got people to put up timbers/framing for "free", never would take counseling/advice, turned off comments on the many videos on the channel, I believe they are still making money off of RUclips and Patreon, etc. They were basically rich from the start and thought they could pull one over on the community.
Not sure if they were rich from the beginning but they did amass a lot of money through RUclips and patreon
I heard I don't know if it's true that they lost the new born she died if that was the case I can understand not following through but never posting a video why they could have scrolled text at least
I hadn't heard that but would understand the disappearance from RUclips if that was the case.
I stopped watching that channel shortly after they turned off the comments for a few weeks, then after that I saw they were doing something wrong and commented on it and was banned from commenting any more
Ya they banned a lot of people who were generally trying to help, turning off comments was a huge turn off
Jesse Stafford died when he fell off of the roof of his house he was repairing. Not sure if it is true.
That is not true that article was a hoax. He is alive.
@@NorthFork I searched and found the hoax on reddit, but no where else. The dates did not match on anything I read. That is why I didn't believe it. Thanks.
I think that Alyssa and Jesse set themselves up to fail, the house was too big and it was getting that they seemed to think they knew it all and really as a person who watched them from just before they built the original little cabin and was really interested in where it was all going. Like most others I felt they were very selfish and wanted to do what they wanted to do, and that is really sad. I hope they find their happy place somehow and I wish the all the best.
Building a house is a BIG project! I think they got in over their head.
I think a lot of people were very sympathetic and supportive of their desire to build a house by themselves, with or without the off-grid aspect. Even from the start I felt they were living elsewhere and only turning up at weekends to build the property. There's no way they were living in that RV! And the shed they built around it was as airtight as a sieve.
You had them with their Patreon begging bowl out whilst at the same time buying an airplane. That didn't make sense. And the build process ground to a halt.
They had a really great channel, and ruined their own reputation. What happened to them? They got arrogant and messed up big time.
I wasn't a super fan but I wasn't a hater either I just wanted to see the DIY house build. I was hoping they would have stuck to the off grid house they promised to build but I get it electricity and running water are conveniences I would take in a heartbeat as well if they were available. What eventually turned me off was the comments about people "playing homestead" and calling viewers "skid marks" Jesse couldn't take any kind of criticism without an over the top reaction. Also flying lessons and buying a share in a plane when the house wasn't even close to being livable raised a lot of eyebrows. Its too bad because I would really have liked to see how the project finishes out. They could have been well over a million subs by now if they had kept at it.
@@NorthFork I don't even think it was a share in a plane! It was the whole plane, registered in a corporation in the neighbouring state, I assume for tax and other liability reasons.
Calling people "skid marks" was a definite no-no. To do that to your viewers, good or bad, was unforgivable. When you get a public persona you've got to be able to wash off criticism easily. For them to bite back at homesteaders like they did showed they couldn't.
They had something which was super successful, they just needed to keep doing what they did to make it a success!
I was supportive at first, but as certain aspects started to unravel I did question things. Especially when Jess was putting Alyssa in danger by not observing basic safety. Such as being under a several ton log whilst he moved it on a dodgy backhoe... Or the safety line for the roofing which would have caught her 6" before hitting the ground and snapped her in two...
You are 100% correct about how arrogant they became, they often used their self inflated ego's in the comment section as well. You are also right about their spending. If they are trying to build a house, why are they spending thousands of dollars to buy an airplane? Why are they spending 700 dollars on a fancy commercial coffee shop coffee machine? Why are they spending 600 dollars on buying multiple vacuum cleaners, and playing with danger, while messing around with flour and static electricity? Nothing about it made any sense at all. And all I got a sense of, is that baby of their's was at risk living in an unfinished home. In America we have CPS, and I felt they should have been called on the matter, but that was just my opinion. And I got my channel flagged and terminated for SPAM, because they didn't like me saying that on their channel.
@@stellarproductions8888 Sorry you got your channel deleted for commenting on PLFL's videos.
Going by other commentators on the Facebook groups questioning them, I believe someone did call CPS on them. No action was taken against them, which probably means they weren't living in the house. Or RV. As even as a building site it was dangerous.
The side door to nowhere, the stairs at the back with no barriers to stop you plunging down, the upstairs rooms. Even the front doors with no decking to walk out on. But for a toddler, they're quick! Before you know it they're doing something, and in that house nothing would be child safe.
@@johnsim3722 The safety issues were scary IMO, from climbing around that roof to the way they secured the timber frame to the foundation with screws, lots of things they did I wouldn't have but not a place to have a baby or small child until the house is further along.
They never once thanked the subscribers and he acted like he was the gift to all of us watching. He ended up redoing most everything , He wanted people to think they were married that was sure a fake act , I couldn't stand to see his fake marketing ploy. When they went to Macall for the winter carnival and paid over 300$ a night to stay in a Motel that was enough for me.
Of course they're selling the place. They're frauds. The channel was simply to make money.