It's impossible for Meiling to go well in another plot except she either for saving SDM member or get abducted to do bidding or maybe defend SDM from attack (this was very unlikely), she will be really one character who really hard to made a comeback, the most possible way if Zun decided to make martial-art oriented story she probably will go as opponent or playable character.
Yachie and her teamed up to trick everyone into thinking Son Biten was the second coming of Son Wukong / Son Goku from Journey to the West. Iconic. Her design is great, and I love how it takes inspiration off Nemuno's design since she was literally raised in the Yamabas' sanctuary land. The theme also is quite nice, and I like the vocal ehru sounds used in it a lot, which ties the theme together really well.
@@ElectricNox It must be hard to work with too, what with the the vibrato and the weird velocity programming throughout. ZUN is a master of MIDI programming goddamn
@@ElectricNoxas far as I've just gathered, Son biten has been living on youkai Mountain too, and apparently on the rather secluded Yamanba (speak: Nemuno's species) territory. So they probably either had some contact directly, or at least other Yamanbas had an influence on her. That said, perhaps there is more in some dialogues, but they aren't all translated yet, to my knowledge.
@@ElectricNoxhave been using a translator and someone (can't remember which girl since I played many story modes) mentioned something about how she hoped no scary yamanba with a knife would appear or something along those lines lol not sure they're related (they probably are...) but nemuno did get a reference
@@NoxAtlasnemuno doesn't have anything to do with stage 3 ._. Also ZUN almost never does subtle comebacks to other musics. The callbacks are always obvious like with DDC's stage 3 theme calling back to IN's stage 4 theme
Its good to finally get a monkey character, the theme turned into one of my favorites in the exact moment i heard it. Her theme also remember a lot pocky and rocky themes, i like that! :D
My cousin has grown up her childhood playing the Pocky and Rocky games on the SNES and my father has once helped her out on succeeding these considering the shoot 'em up genre. It was also a reason why she was able to get into the Touhou main games easily as a kid as she has first played Perfect Cherry Blossom as a way to pass free time at home.
Yes he did, all other themes in this game sound completely uninspired. This and Zanmu's theme both stand out from the rest but still feel a bit boring and lukewarm by ZUN's standards. But the downgrade of the music is honestly the least of this game's problems.
Cor, I'm a Touhou fan and this is my favourite theme. NGL there's something special to highlight. This theme helps me to study. I've been studying for a midterm by listening to it. I don't know how but it motivated me to study some topics that were even difficult to process and store in my mind.
This brings me an interesting theory, either the sanctuary land she's raised in belongs to Nemuno (which makes Biten Nemuno's adoptive child in a sense lol), OR, all Yamanba dress just like this.
Her story is, she was originally part of the monkey yokai in Yokai Mountain, but was kicked out by the other monkeys (likely for being a fucking menace), where she inhabited Yamanba lands. She then ate a Yamanba, and because of funky evil spirit/yokai nonsense, was at risk of falling to Hell because of it. Zanmu interfered and introduced her to Yachie, who had her join her gang instead. I highly doubt she was raised by Nemuno, as she was already fully grown by then.
@@xXTheKingEmothXx she didn't eat the Yamanba though, she ate the 'phantoms' inside the land that belong to Yamanba. But in Touhou "phantoms" can come from many things, so it's not impossible that the said 'phantoms' are of the Yamanba (just to be clear that she didn't go rip some poor Yamanba's spleen out and ate it like ribeye steak lol)
Speaking of Rin Satsuki and friend, she was truly friendly to me in my Touhou related dreams anyway. Even much nicer than Reimu. Never thought a kirin nurse would be nicer than a human shrine maiden.
I didn't know she was that talented. She should consider joining the Prismriver Sisters sometime. Or at least hang out with them. That would be nice to see.
@@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 I imagine that in the state buildings they must be bathing in seas of pleasures in a more secret and hidden place than the Epstein Island.
It's the tubes of the Kuda-Gistune, an evil spirit talking to you for riches then bringing you to your fatal misery and ruin, it's their "home" more or less. Tsukasa is one of them and it seems there is others ones (I think in the dialogue when you play her, she discover one of her kin in the big tube). Since Yachie gaslit'ed Son, she is probably the one giving her this tube-rod with the intention of keeping an eye on her, the spirit can give the holder power and be the messager for Yachie.That's my guess. And we can say that the size of the tube is synonymous of the power given. I think it does makes sense. Another thing, we can see Tsukasa with differents flasks on 3 typical colors : if you look closely, it's the animal spirits into it. While every protagonists got a new spirit into them, for Tsukasa it's the ability to hoard them. She is a yokai-spirit herself, so she know how to put a spirit into a new tube.(?). She could be the one preparing the big tube for Son., on the order of Yachie. Idk Chiyari (the t-shirt gal chilling near the blood rivers) got the genetic sequence on her shirt , vials and syringes. Her title in game is "Monster of Tainted Organic Material". A very interesting detail I heard but not true if it's right IRL : mutations (of anything alive) happens more often in a blood environnment. It could explain the pool of bloods. It seems, there is a "illegal bio-science experiments" as the background theme? It goes well with the animals fights too.
@@yehwat527 probably cause another incident . I mean it’s not like she didn’t indirectly do that 3 times over (plus 1 other if including incidents from different timelines)
Biten will keep something on me since was the last character that i unlocked and the first view i reconized from where she is inspired. Also the music is very calm and is very good (the vocals not needed to be too good)
I'm still surprised and happy to see a Touhou character based on a monkey anyway. Now I suspect that two of the malevolent and threatening youkai in the future of the Touhou series would be based on a crocodile and a balloon. Hope anyone figures out the references involving my childhood game series.
Since we're all comparing Son Biten to a certain shounen anime protagonist (I mean it was bound to happen), is it wrong that I want Goku's Japanese VA Masako Nozawa to voice Biten in a Touhou fan game at least once? Like Touhou Lost Word for example?
Just as people used to say "Mike" (Maik) instead of "Mike" (Me keh or something like that) to the calico cat in Touhou 18, I can't help but read her name as "Bitten" (Synonym for Nibble) instead of "Biten" (Beaten).
not all ascending-descending arpeggios are theme of eastern story that said, the bridge is definitely theme of eastern story starting from a different point
Sounds chinese I like it, it reminds me of course of Shangai Teahouse from Touhou 6, but also rage of the dragons' billy and lynn theme (splendid string from china), KOF '98 - Seoul Town, KOF 2002 - Tiger, Dragon, and Swallow
Son Goku Meet Son biten family friends with Powerful. Hardest Son biten is Strong it "Super saiyan" task complete good days there tiering most powerful
I feel like this game is mostly meant to be a portfolio than a game. The gameplay itself seems very uninspired and lackluster, but the visual art and music is honestly the highest quality the series has had
Well, it plays like a phantasmagoria game so I wouldn't call it uninspired exactly. My only complain would be that the main stories are too short, but it kinda gets balanced by how brutal the bosses are
"You saved me... Why...?"
"Mmm.. Biten..."
monke queen
"You have showed me Biten, Biten... mhm."
Hunter Biten
Funny because that’s like exactly what happened in her backstory
Even with Yachie being a turtle
cant believe the game window ate half of her tail
Body horror
and yet reimu’s giant fucking gohei is still intact…
"Rules for thee, not for me"
-Yachie manipulating the power of the game window
@@angrysunflower222bitch can't stop manipulating
You could even say it was *Biten* in half
We're in ZUN's erhu phase, boys!
May Meiling return soon with an update to her theme (again).
Meiling's theme played by an erhu will be the best theme hands down.
It's impossible for Meiling to go well in another plot except she either for saving SDM member or get abducted to do bidding or maybe defend SDM from attack (this was very unlikely), she will be really one character who really hard to made a comeback, the most possible way if Zun decided to make martial-art oriented story she probably will go as opponent or playable character.
@@fadillah6014 Imo it's pretty easy to put her in a fighting game spinoff.
@@fadillah6014or just make the alliances control people and may Meiling be part of Yachie's crew
@@TontaDeNETpreposterous, unless Remilia joins for some reason
Son and Nemuno clearly shop at the same store
That's the very first thing I noticed and I was so confused 😭
@@ElectricNox I think it's based on the design
Biten lived in Yamanba lands on her own when she was kicked out by the other monkeys, hence her caveman attitude and clothes lmao.
it's like how chiyari and hecatia shop at the same store... maybe the marketplace really did make an impact...
Alice and hinda clearly shop at same store
Yachie and her teamed up to trick everyone into thinking Son Biten was the second coming of Son Wukong / Son Goku from Journey to the West. Iconic. Her design is great, and I love how it takes inspiration off Nemuno's design since she was literally raised in the Yamabas' sanctuary land. The theme also is quite nice, and I like the vocal ehru sounds used in it a lot, which ties the theme together really well.
Erhu, it's an erhu ☺
Very cool to see it used in Touhou, must say.
@@blue_the_boy_kisser its spelt Erhu
@@blue_the_boy_kisser Even Hong Meiling, the other girl who gives off the "other eastern land" vibe don't had this.
@@TricksterPoieosd was 21 years ago... zun didnt have the sound card for it yet
@ebbisnar8616 so the test tube contains a spirit used as a weapon? How'd they even get that?
The erhu goes SO hard it's unbelievable
REAL
Its a banger !
True, I wish I knew what plugin it was, I've been looking for a good erhu for a while :(
@@ElectricNoxthere probably are out there, but expensive x.x
omnisphere has it all too
@@ElectricNox It must be hard to work with too, what with the the vibrato and the weird velocity programming throughout. ZUN is a master of MIDI programming goddamn
thank you ZUN for the slither relevance for Nemuno Touhou 16
How do they relate? Except for having the same tailor
@@ElectricNoxas far as I've just gathered, Son biten has been living on youkai Mountain too, and apparently on the rather secluded Yamanba (speak: Nemuno's species) territory. So they probably either had some contact directly, or at least other Yamanbas had an influence on her. That said, perhaps there is more in some dialogues, but they aren't all translated yet, to my knowledge.
@@stellerseider270 someone has also pointed out the fact that her clothing is quite similar to nemuno's
@@ElectricNoxhave been using a translator and someone (can't remember which girl since I played many story modes) mentioned something about how she hoped no scary yamanba with a knife would appear or something along those lines lol
not sure they're related (they probably are...) but nemuno did get a reference
@@NoxAtlasnemuno doesn't have anything to do with stage 3 ._.
Also ZUN almost never does subtle comebacks to other musics. The callbacks are always obvious like with DDC's stage 3 theme calling back to IN's stage 4 theme
ZUN IS GETTING TOO GOOD AT MUSIC
Hakurei Kannushi was a god of music all along
hes been too good for like 20+ years
Yeah, just like David Wise and Phyrnna.
@@koishiwii8370HI GUYS! Who do you mean by david and phyrna anyway?
What do you mean too good?
goku isnt meiling anymore
Awh…
goku is overrated xp
Yeah... About that...
@@TempoDub721finally, somebody admits that.
@@livestreamer12340god is coming for you
I love her design, is so cool, not edgy, not overly mystical, just cool. Gives many MC vibes.
Its good to finally get a monkey character, the theme turned into one of my favorites in the exact moment i heard it. Her theme also remember a lot pocky and rocky themes, i like that! :D
My cousin has grown up her childhood playing the Pocky and Rocky games on the SNES and my father has once helped her out on succeeding these considering the shoot 'em up genre. It was also a reason why she was able to get into the Touhou main games easily as a kid as she has first played Perfect Cherry Blossom as a way to pass free time at home.
The best song of the game.
They're turning her into soup
Yea y'know what, this is my favorite track in this game. The erhu made it sounded really nice and catchy.
Banger !
At first I hated it, but it grew on me and I hope Zun will use it more
Same here :D
It has quickly become one of my favorites of this Touhou era for sure
ok this one's IMMEDIATELY one of my favorite songs in the entire series. wtf.
This is my favorite theme of the new characters.
Is so beautiful i dont even have the correct words to express myself.
So gorgeous.
Reject Society
Return to Monke
疾走感があるのにおしゃれでなんかめっちゃ好きやわー
So far this track, the final boss theme, & the title theme are my favorite tracks from this game.
She got the brazilian flag colors
Exatamente.
>she's a monkey
>with the Brazilian flag colors
What did ZUN mean by this
A Zanmu tambem kdjdkdjsk
Bro thinks she's Goku!!!
More like Sun Wukong as a matter a fact-🤭
And this is to go even further beyond!
(Some) touhou fans: I think ZUN is losing his touch
ZUN:
that was me till i played th19
He never lost the touch, maybe some songs weren't as good as we though they will be, but he will amaze us for all eternity
Yes he did, all other themes in this game sound completely uninspired. This and Zanmu's theme both stand out from the rest but still feel a bit boring and lukewarm by ZUN's standards.
But the downgrade of the music is honestly the least of this game's problems.
Th18s soundtrack was pretty disappointing to me but the next games ensured that didn't continue
@@thesubinion ... Agreed- D:
Cor, I'm a Touhou fan and this is my favourite theme.
NGL there's something special to highlight. This theme helps me to study. I've been studying for a midterm by listening to it. I don't know how but it motivated me to study some topics that were even difficult to process and store in my mind.
Your just like me it’s one of the songs that helps me study aswell
yeah this song helps me do the dishes for some reason lol
gaslight gatekeep goku
This brings me an interesting theory, either the sanctuary land she's raised in belongs to Nemuno (which makes Biten Nemuno's adoptive child in a sense lol), OR, all Yamanba dress just like this.
Her story is, she was originally part of the monkey yokai in Yokai Mountain, but was kicked out by the other monkeys (likely for being a fucking menace), where she inhabited Yamanba lands. She then ate a Yamanba, and because of funky evil spirit/yokai nonsense, was at risk of falling to Hell because of it. Zanmu interfered and introduced her to Yachie, who had her join her gang instead.
I highly doubt she was raised by Nemuno, as she was already fully grown by then.
@@xXTheKingEmothXx she didn't eat the Yamanba though, she ate the 'phantoms' inside the land that belong to Yamanba. But in Touhou "phantoms" can come from many things, so it's not impossible that the said 'phantoms' are of the Yamanba (just to be clear that she didn't go rip some poor Yamanba's spleen out and ate it like ribeye steak lol)
@@xXTheKingEmothXx
Nah, it was Zanmu who manipulated her into eating said phantoms and Yachie who "saved" her
Rin Satsuki was ZUN's friend and composed the erhu part
Speaking of Rin Satsuki and friend, she was truly friendly to me in my Touhou related dreams anyway. Even much nicer than Reimu. Never thought a kirin nurse would be nicer than a human shrine maiden.
@@koishiwii8370 You have Touhou dreams?
@@koishiwii8370 how did you reach such ascendacy?
@@windyryady6367 Once you become a Touhou Fan, all your dreams lead back to Touhou. I would know.
I didn't know she was that talented. She should consider joining the Prismriver Sisters sometime. Or at least hang out with them. That would be nice to see.
AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN BEYOND!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
-Son Biten
I fucking love the intro.
Finally Joe Biden has his own boss theme
his son, to be exact
Wonder if this Biden had committed any crimes that some wants to actively censor and protect.
Son biten
Biten son
Biden son
Biden’s son
@@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 I imagine that in the state buildings they must be bathing in seas of pleasures in a more secret and hidden place than the Epstein Island.
Freakin' luv the Beast Metropolis' leitmotif in this one!
The Ehru goes hard
I CANT BELIEVE SUN WUKONG IS IN TOUHOU
What's with all these.... FLASKS?
Son literally has a frickin' flask-rod
It's the tubes of the Kuda-Gistune, an evil spirit talking to you for riches then bringing you to your fatal misery and ruin, it's their "home" more or less.
Tsukasa is one of them and it seems there is others ones (I think in the dialogue when you play her, she discover one of her kin in the big tube).
Since Yachie gaslit'ed Son, she is probably the one giving her this tube-rod with the intention of keeping an eye on her, the spirit can give the holder power and be the messager for Yachie.That's my guess. And we can say that the size of the tube is synonymous of the power given. I think it does makes sense.
Another thing, we can see Tsukasa with differents flasks on 3 typical colors : if you look closely, it's the animal spirits into it. While every protagonists got a new spirit into them, for Tsukasa it's the ability to hoard them. She is a yokai-spirit herself, so she know how to put a spirit into a new tube.(?). She could be the one preparing the big tube for Son., on the order of Yachie. Idk
Chiyari (the t-shirt gal chilling near the blood rivers) got the genetic sequence on her shirt , vials and syringes. Her title in game is "Monster of Tainted Organic Material". A very interesting detail I heard but not true if it's right IRL : mutations (of anything alive) happens more often in a blood environnment. It could explain the pool of bloods.
It seems, there is a "illegal bio-science experiments" as the background theme? It goes well with the animals fights too.
@@corbeauwrite damn, that crazy science stuff with blood and mutation, what would Kanako do with that sort of monstrosity?
@@yehwat527 probably cause another incident . I mean it’s not like she didn’t indirectly do that 3 times over (plus 1 other if including incidents from different timelines)
@@corbeauwrite Mutated monstrosity 2hu might be a cool concept
Biten will keep something on me since was the last character that i unlocked and the first view i reconized from where she is inspired.
Also the music is very calm and is very good (the vocals not needed to be too good)
Apreciar essa obra de arte 🍷🗿
I'm still surprised and happy to see a Touhou character based on a monkey anyway. Now I suspect that two of the malevolent and threatening youkai in the future of the Touhou series would be based on a crocodile and a balloon. Hope anyone figures out the references involving my childhood game series.
Beautiful theme ❤
Sorry but the way the Sprite's tails is cut off it just look like there's a huge turd on the end of her staff
Since we're all comparing Son Biten to a certain shounen anime protagonist (I mean it was bound to happen), is it wrong that I want Goku's Japanese VA Masako Nozawa to voice Biten in a Touhou fan game at least once? Like Touhou Lost Word for example?
We could only dream...
Yeah...
well what do you think
About, Biten's voice in Lost Word?
@@Switch-E-Roo yep
I love son biten so much
the glizzy thrower herself, son biten
Just as people used to say "Mike" (Maik) instead of "Mike" (Me keh or something like that) to the calico cat in Touhou 18, I can't help but read her name as "Bitten" (Synonym for Nibble) instead of "Biten" (Beaten).
English's one hell of a curse, ain't it?
I never had those issues lol
@pea_mooch1Maybe the fact that I am not a native English speaker has something to do with it.
lol french frie skirt
I just noticed this theme has Theme of Eastern Story. Listen to the background.
not all ascending-descending arpeggios are theme of eastern story
that said, the bridge is definitely theme of eastern story starting from a different point
Sounds chinese I like it, it reminds me of course of Shangai Teahouse from Touhou 6, but also rage of the dragons' billy and lynn theme (splendid string from china), KOF '98 - Seoul Town, KOF 2002 - Tiger, Dragon, and Swallow
1:09 - 1:19 reminds me of one of sariel’s themes
Are those french fries on her dress?
Aunn makes the same joke I think.
I thought they were clothespins?
The beginning sounds something straight out of Kirby Planet Robobot.
今までの東方の曲とは違う新しい感じがしますね
「二胡」って楽器使ってるらしいけど中国の感じが想像できて良い曲だと思います
What a wasted opportunity to give her a spell card named biten blast
I'm merely using 5% of my power
Ahh yes, Goku Biden.
Is it just me or do I feel like she looks like she came out of Len’en? Like design wise if Jynx drew her and put her in Len’en she would fit right in.
Fumikado
needs a jacket or a second skirt layer
Let's go Brandy!
If this is the Tiny Shangri-La, where's the Large Shangri-La
Shout out to Gensokyo’s Great Sage 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Mmmm the french fry Monkey
It's been a while since I didn't like a Zun song this much, damn this is too good
Reminds me of the stage 5 theme from TH17!
Son Goku Meet Son biten family friends with Powerful. Hardest Son biten is Strong it "Super saiyan" task complete good days there tiering most powerful
I didn't expect sun wukong to have top surgery, but good for her.
iconic, thriving
Go back, IWANT TO BE MONKEEE!!!
I wonder why she has floating french fries
would be more fitting if it was banana peels
Potatomancy
この二胡は冴月麟が弾いているのかな
BITEN BLASTTTTTT
French fries
reminds me of wbawc stage 5, but more upbeat
Biten is not my president
Go back! I want to be monke!
No way touhou goku
bro how am i supposed to take her seriously when shes throwing hot dog buns as an attack
Monke
so this is the effortless people were talking about(correct me if i spelled something wrong)
You know i was thinking zun was losing it with the recent 2hus ost but damn this is a good one
OH MY FUCKING GOD IS THAT SON WUKONG?!
This feels like it could be used for an anime op.
I can only think of Woocky Disconizer...
I feel like this game is mostly meant to be a portfolio than a game. The gameplay itself seems very uninspired and lackluster, but the visual art and music is honestly the highest quality the series has had
idk i only played a bit so far but i thought it was pretty fun
Well, it plays like a phantasmagoria game so I wouldn't call it uninspired exactly. My only complain would be that the main stories are too short, but it kinda gets balanced by how brutal the bosses are
wdym i had a blast with this game
@@ethirium4389
Ah, so it’s like 9, alright
fuck i love it
:3
Did zun just use traditional chinese instrument before he did japanese?
zun has used japanese instruments before, like the shakuhachi and the shamisen. its included with the edirol sd-90
She literally just stole nemuno's dress and dyed it😂
0:35
monke
reminds me of MK, from Lego Monkie Kid
great track but the timing at 0:10 bugs me so much
you mean the fact that the bpm increases ?
monke
Monke
monke
Monke