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Which Would You Choose? Citizen Series 8 or Tissot Green Gentleman?
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Thanks again to Mr P for the loan of yet more watches. These two are pretty similar in some ways, both great ss dailys. But which one would you choose?
I actually prefer the Tissot, little more slender looking and well done and that green is so nice. Congratulations on completing your studies and the new arrival. All the best mate
The Tissot does not fit slender. It is a full size big boy watch. Both are very nice. Citizen is better movement, not that Tissot is bad but Citizen is better. I have Powermatic 80 Y to Tissot and it is very good.
Tissot for a first and/or only watch. Citizen for an interesting addition to an existing collection.
I would choose the Citizen... Hands down!
If I had to choose I would go with the Citizen out of the two. A less expensive, Eco Drive version of that Citizen with a similar shape would be quite interesting if they ever made something like that.
BM7490-52E
Eco-Drive plus radio or GPS sync with as simple a dial as possible would be particularly nice…
@@markiangooley ...and with titanium case and bracelet, plus G-shock type of protection would be even more nice.
Hmm... Nah, I'd still rather go with Oceanus.
@@Zzzxxx1 Thank you, that looks like a nice watch
Citizen BJ6530-54L Eco Drive
The Tissot range looks like it’s taking on Seiko and Hamilton at the same time. Nicer in the leather strap. I wasn’t expecting to like the Citizen, but for eye catching visual appeal, it wins. Love the weighty crown guards, not too dissimilar to the bulky ones on a Panerai.
The video image quality is definitely noticeable, 5k well spent.
I'd gone to a Citizen boutique a couple of months ago and tried the Series 8 on. Stunning watch, but the important part is that the sales consultant said it was a La Joux-Perret movement. So if it's super similar to a Miyota 9k movement, it's probably that newfangled LJP caliber that's based on the Miyota 9k series. Hope that helps!
I would go Citizen
are you talking about this specic Citizen model in this video or in general? Because as I am aware there are variations of the Series 8 with Caliber 0950 instead of 9051 like this one? If so, very cool.
@@khanhvu6969 Citizen in general
I prefer the styling of the Tissot, but Citizen finishing looks amazing!
Really appreciate the bump in production quality, everything looks so crisp now!
Interesting comparison, I really like the Citizen apart from the crown guards. It's nice to see movements that can be regulated by humans too 👍
Agree with your crown guard comment,to me they just look clunky, angular and ruin the whole look of the watch.
I’m not sure I totally agree with you about the powermatic 80 being ‘a much nicer movement’ than this Miyota 9xxx series movement Jody. The Silicium version does bring increased anti magnetism to the 80 hour power reserve party, but the lack of easy diy regulation is a big no-no. You need to be careful how you hand-wind them too, as being essentially a modded eta 2824 they can suffer with the dreaded spinnng rotor when you wind caused by worn reverser wheels. My own Tissot Pan Europ with the powermatic 80 developed just this issue within a year and had to be repaired under warranty. I think the higher beat Miyota 9xxx is more robust, much more easily regulated (especially this version with the screw micro adjust) and personally I find the rotor that only winds one way and free spins the other way a non issue, unlike yourself.
Yeah Steve, I'm not a fan of the Miyota winding. I'd take the ETA every time, but each to their own!
@@JustOneMoreWatch I choose a smoother highbeat movement over the jerky P80 lowbeat.
I have heard there are questions over a Powermatic 80 and servicing/repairs. I've seen some suggest that it's not as straight forward as a tried and true 2824 which any watchmaker can easily work on. If I had the choice i'd also rather less power reserve and a higher beat rate. My watches are often rotated and sit long enough that 40 or 80 hours makes no difference to me.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Yeah me too. I have a Miyota 8215 in my PD-1639 and compared to the NH35A in my Grand Diver, it's night and day. If the Seiko feels more refined, then the ETA should be night and day.
Just a quick comment reacting on the intro: well done and good luck for your full time on YT (thumb up already) ! Video quality is way better and looking forward to your video about it :) Now back to the review !
Thanks Tan!
I'm not surprised Mr P ended up buying both watches, as I like both of them, although the Citizen does catch my eye more. Hope the family is doing well, thanks for the video, looks great with the new gear.
Tissot for me I like the green dial; I’m not sure on the overall design of the Citizen. Definite improvement in picture quality, looking forward to the new camera video.
Both are really nice, the Citizen has some great angles and a superb movement and slightly quirky.
Love that dial on the Tissot and the visuals, very clean and classy but not sure about the clasp. Tough pick to choose but both are definitely great picks!
Nice one Jody and congrats on the birth of your baby! 🤝🏼🤜🏽👍🏼
I prefer the Tissot. The Citizen looks chunky for a "sports" watch. This is a good comparison review. Thanks.
I bought the Citizen series 8 late last year, however I opted for the other model with the round case. I could not be more happy with it, and I am happy to see that the series 8 line gets some attention. Does not seem like a lot of people know about them, and that’s really a shame.
I disagree that PM80 is better than 9** series on Citizen. After years when that plastic hairspring broke no watch maker have parts and instruments to change it, and you need to give it to swatch group to change whole movement, no thanks. If i buy swiss nowadays im searching for sellita 4Hz since Eta is discontinued.
I personally prefer the Tissot! I just think it looks so SLICK! But they are both awesome watches! :)
That camera deserves all the money. The quality is just amazing. Money well spent. I would pick the citizen.
I think I prefer the Tissot, but there is always something a little unsettling about a sector dial to my eyes. I find any lines radiating from the center of a dial add a moment of uncertainty when trying to read the time.
I agree. I would remove almost everything from the dial. Hate wall of text, lines and such.
And that's why i prefer Dive or Field style watches, they are the easiest to read.
I prefer the Citizen, more soul, more character, more distinction. It might be a tad small for my 7.75-inch wrist, but its muscular shape might compensate for the 40mm size. Thank you for the comparison.
Both great watches. I think if I couldn’t get both it would be the Tissot. Congratulations on YT full time and the excellent kit you’ve bought and I hope you and your wife are able to sleep well enough and that your new addition to the family is healthy and bringing lots of joy!
I've never owned a Tissot, but love the classic elegance of that watch, which surprised me a little as I normally go for the more modern and edgy looking watches, but not in this case. Looking forward to more content now you've finished your studies, bet you're glad of that. :-)
Both nice. I'd lean towards the Citizen. The case design is more interesting and I like the angles. And, can get that (faux) integrated lug look but not be limited to strap options.
Hey there JOMW! I've been doing photography for a few years and one of the most cost-effective options I've found for macro shots are tube extensions that go between the camera and the lens. If you find a good one, it'll still let you control f-stop and retain autofocus, and this essentially makes old lenses that have no macro capability to being great macro lenses. Loving the new setup overall.
Oh man that citizen is finished super well. Really nice.
It's good to see citizen really getting their designs together.
Both pieces are nice and, I’m sure wear beautifully, but I would lean towards the Citizen as I am a collector of the brand already.
I would pick the Tissot, but the bracelet on the Citizen is quite nice. I did not realize there was a Titanium Gentleman, but it's disappointing it is only available in quartz. Titanium would certainly get rid of the weight complaint.
I like the dial of the Citizen but like the case of the Tissot better ... neithers clasp thrills me.
The tissot in green is already on my 'watch watch list.' It's likely to be my next purchase. The citizen, not so much, and this review didn't change that.
Jody, new equipment looks great. You can tell immediately that you spent big bucks. Thank you.
Citizen black dial looks great btw. I wish they didn't include crown guards. Would have been visually more balanced. Just my 2¢.
I think a more apt comparison. Would be the Tissot PRX vs. The Citizen.
Congrats on the new camera set up. A lot of people don’t realize how expensive A/V equipment can get, and it gets there just as fast as a new watch, lol.
Tissot for me. Cheers from the states.
Please do a full review of tee green Tissot! Definitely want to see that gorgeous dial under macro... Both watches look awesome. Thanks.
Both are some of my favorite looking daily watches! I think the citizen is alittle more interesting looking but I would struggle to accept paying $250 more for it. If they were the same price then it would be a tougher choice. Looking forward to seeing them in more detail!
I'd almost automatically say Tissot but this time the Citizen is the one. It just has a bit more character without overdoing it, the Tissot is unexciting to be honest. Just one thing, Citizen need to start making a lot more automatic watches. Would love to see a range that would compete on price with Seiko's new 5kx range but with a sapphire crystal as the cherry on top
I'm surprised that nobody talks about the camera quality. I see great improvements especially on the highlights, bokeh, natural sharpness and colours.
Good investment Jody, waiting for the upcoming videos!
I bought my first Citizen a couple of weeks ago; a AW-5000 eco-drive in green and it's really nice (particularly at $149 AUD!) Now I have my eye on a Promaster NY0085-19E for around $200AUD.
I'm starting to feel the love with Citizen watches and a couple of their watches complements my Casio collection nicely 👍
Hope you weren't eyeing the same promaster I was... sold out on ebay.
I just got my second Citizen today ... it is a Citizen Ecodrive Promaster Worldtime Land GMT ... a variant of the BJ7100-82E Jody reviewed a little while back.
Bought the same model in black a year ago, completely agree!
I just added that Green Tissot Gentleman to my collection and I really Like it Overall. The Powermatic 80 movement is Super...Dial, Fit, Finish, is Great. Also a Very comfortable watch on the wrist. A bit more of a refined watch compared to the Citizen...In my opinion.
Congrats on going full time on YT and can't wait to see the results of all your new equipment..!!
Ah, you are going through the 'I have paid for the low aperture, so I will use it wide open, no matter what' phase. A bit more depth of field may be good in the tabletop sections, so don't be afraid to close it down a few stops. Also sharpens up a tad more when doing so, getting the best out of the lens for this occasion!
I agree with your comparisons at the end and the benefits of each (9:59). Going into this vid, I thought I’d easily choose the Swiss Tissot, but after seeing all the great features of the Citizen, I’d be happy with either one. I feel the Citizen’s case and bracelet wouldn’t be as much of a scratch magnet as that Tissot.
I like your new look with the updated equipment. 👍🏻
Looking forward to the super duper macro lens! I love macro watch shots. 😁
I prefer the green Tissot. Something about Citizen designs that just don't quite gel with me ever. They do do a more interesting dial variant though - NX1010-84X.
I have a quartz Tissot Visodate and it's a cracking little dress watch - wouldn't mind another Tissot in the collection, the Gentleman looks like a nice piece!
@Mr Budget Watch - I’m with you. Totally agree.
@Just One More Watch, Congratulations on finishing your studies 👏🏼👨🏼🎓
That Series 8 is very Nice. I've been looking at these for at least a year since they've come out and I like them. Good to see them making mechanical watches again.
Nice equipment, nice watches, nice shirt! I would do the Citizen for it's unique flair and the bracelet is much better. 21 mm is almost as bad as 19 mm. I hope the little one is doing well and you did not get too wet recently?
i quite like the new 'the citizen" with the black dial and angular case, with that LJP G100 in it. If you can get your hands on one of those that would be interesting.
What an awesome pink lights in the background!
Congrats on the new gear! The same corny jokes we all love, but now in HD! I like the dials on both those watches. Simple, but they look great. It’s too bad Tissot used a butterfly clasp on that bracelet. It’s the only real fly in the ointment for me.
I have the tissot powermatic siver dial...one of my collection...very classy with rolexish impression on wrist...that green is pretty tho...the citizen case style is attractive wish the inices were more like the tissot but iverall very asthetic look...
The citizen 9051 movement is based on the 9015. It comes with a new balance assembly, specifically to achieve higher anti-magnetism and use screw like adjustment system (similiar to ETA 2824) instead of the lever type in 9015.
Love the addition of backlights! Brings so much dimension to your talking head shots. As for the watches, I like the Citizen but I'm not sure I'd actually wear it.
Work in progress, Nick, but much better already.
That citizen looks awesome. Need full review on that!!
When you were talking about all these amazing improvements, I was really hoping your jokes would be on that list.
I will live to hope another day.
The camera and lights looks great! Can't wait to see the new macro lens!
Nice new camera and lights, mate! As to the watches, I reckon the Citizen is my choice except I won’t pay the prices. Call me frugal, call me cheap, I don’t care. There are so many great watches to choose from under $500, I’m just spoiled for choice!
Nice video, Jody. They are both nice looking and nicely spec'ed watches, but I would definitely go for the Citizen. I think it's a much more interesting watch to look at, and if the movement is in fact a Miyota 9 series, high-beat (which it looks like it is by the hand sweep), I'm all in. I have found that all of the Miyota movements I've had experience with are excellent timekeepers. In fact, I have had multiple 8000 series movements that did not disappoint, like the Vario 1918. I have never had one fail on me, and all the one's I have (about 4) , have a consistent accuracy of about + 0 to 4 seconds a day. This is much better than all of my NH35's and my Tissot Powermatic 80, PRS-516 which runs at about 6 yo 8 seconds slow a day. Would love to see a timer graph study to compare both of these watches. Note, that I'm not saying that an Miyota movement is better than comparable ETA movement. I think a lot of the accuracy issues with auto's in general are dependent on the company, and how well they quality control the accuracy setting on a watch before it leaves the factory.
Jody, this is all great news. I'm a bit late but I'm so stoned right now. Cheers from California. Citizen is so underrated in the US.
Funny. I noticed the camera upgrade instantly. Looks great.
I like the citizen a bit more, the dial is much more appealing. As others have said, the crown guard gives the case an asymmetric twist, which I'm not a fan of.
The tissot looks like a seiko 5 with a retro dial..
That Seiko 5 comparison is on point, that's exactly what it looks like. Not what you'd want from a watch at this price point...
@@acomingextinction the Tissot has superior movement, sapphire etc. seems like more for the money?
I’d buy the one with the screw-down crown. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Citizen Automatic NB610-81E - there's a round version of this watch, NA1004-87E.
Nice review. Both watches have their strengths. Both very worthy additions to the collection if you get the right deal! Pic quality is awesome/ a touch more light required in the studio. Love your work!
Oh no Mr P, a touch LESS light. Covers the wrinkles 😜
I would love a review of that green Tissot gentleman. I’m seriously considering it as my wedding watch. I love Tissot and my fiancée’s favorite color is green and I think that watch is beautiful!
Year later update:
I got the green gentleman for my wedding! And it's quickly become one of my favorite watches and is now a strong part of my daily rotation.
I loved it so much I got another one! The black dial with brown leather band for something more subtle. And I got quartz versions of the black with leather strap for my groomsmen, and they both wear them regularly!
I have large wrists so the fact that it's a bit chunky for it's size is a bonus for me!
The green dial is the real showpiece. In direct sunlight it just dances with color! But in more subdued lighting, it becomes much more subtle. If you were to catch it at an angle in low lighting, you would think it was black, which is great IMO. It stays under the radar until someone really gives it a good look, then it becomes so much more!
The movement is still spot on. It looses about 1 second per day. I couldn't be happier with that.
I was worried about daily scuffs and scrapes on the high polished links on the bracelet, but it actually gives it a really unique character. This one is definitely *mine* now :)
In summary: The Gentleman is an amazing GADA watch that I would recommend to literally ANYONE who wants a watch in that style. It's Well worth it on the leather too in my opinion :)
Wow HD Jody looks amazing!!! Love it! You're gonna be the MrWhoseTheBoss of watch reviews 😎
The new camera is spectacular. Love the citizen body but prefer the Tissot face and watch overall.
Holy crab sticks!!!!! It's like you're in the room!!!!! Thanks for the quality improvement. TISSOT hands down.
4k videos too pls Jodie, atleast 2k 😍 Love ur videos, congrats on becoming a pops as well!
I immediately noticed the difference in image quality. Congratulations on the new gear and the studies! Love the Citizen
That particular Series 8, easily.
Even with the 9 series? I'm not sure which I'd pick. Citizen wears better, but it's a bit odd...
One thing I noticed, (though, I leave open the chance I'm wrong), is that Citizen just doesn't seem to want to sell their automatics in the U.S. Citizen watches are all over the local malls, (Macy's, JC Penney, etc.), but always quartz Eco-Drives. You have to search far and wide to find an automatic Citizen.
As for me, I just recently bought a Tissot Gentleman. One thing I haven't seen many reviewers notice is that SOME of the Gentlemen have an added dial feature, like the green you show here. Some of them have little crosshair markings between 12 and 6, and 3 and 9. It's a seemingly minor addition....but to my eye, adds a ton of visual interest. Worth seeking those out.
Jorde, you have the best watch channel on the tube. I love the fact you actually have the watches to review,, not just images. Keep the great work
I'd probably go with the CITIZEN just to be different, I might just get one as a casual/dress watch as I'm looking to retire the GRUEN precision that was left to me by my uncle several years ago.
I would have the Tissot in a flash that green dial is lovely 👍 thanks Jody good video
Chose the Citizen for its smoother highbeat movement.
We got our dad a gentleman a few years back, he really likes, wears well and the high power reserve is great, when he decides to not wear it for a weekend.
I don’t like their butterfly clasp, or most butterfly clasp for that matter. Why don’t they just release a one with a 2-button clasp…
Im really torn on the citizen, would need to see it in person. The crownguards put me off at first but then I didn’t mind them…
The 80 hr power reserve is great, but it is achieved by lowering the beat rate of a 2824 calibre. For that reason, I would go with a
hi-beat Myota in the well finished and attractive Citizen case. Swiss resale is definitely better though.
Thumbs up for the new camera and lighting...till now, I had no idea what a handsome gent you are!
I go Witz the citizen. I think, everything is in-house and therefore the price is good. But i would prefer the mother of Pearl version
Please do a full review of the tissot. I just bought the same model in the same colourway and it came last week. It‘s my most expensive watch to date and i love it 😍 i think it‘s a perfect watch for a person my age since I am 22 and it doesen‘t look to flashy but still great quality for the money. Keep up the great Vids love your channel since i got into Watches mid 2020. Greetings from Germany ✌️
I have the blue dial tissot gentleman and I love it the movement is spot on and it looks great on the wrist, notckeen on the shape of the citizen. Great review keep up the good work
Citizen for me. I am an Japanese watch addict, and I am glad there is something to go instead PRX, which I love, but it is not from J.
Congratulations! Studies finished, new full time earner and most importantly new baby - It's been a busy year for Mr & MRS JOMW (or Should it be Dr JOMW??) Love both of these pieces. Did you get the Sony Camera?
Thanks mate! Not Dr Jody yet, but my fingers are crossed. And yes, the Sony A7c. Need to sit down with the manual, or far more likely, a few yt tutorials!
I prefer the Tissot… something about the watch head on the Citizen doesn’t do it for me.
Congrats on completing your studies! The new camera is great too! 👌
The Green dial tissot is gorgeus! I would love to see another video with macro and maybe alternative straps👍
Of the two, I like the way the Citizen looks better, although I really want a Tissot and would probably look to see if they had a Tissot I liked better at about the same price. That said, I have a lot of Citizen watches and am very happy with them, I just recommended them to a friend and he bought the new version of a Citizen watch I bought used some years ago.
Prefer the Tissot. Owned a gentleman in black a few years ago. Great watch! I’m unclear as to why certain dials feature the cross hairs & others don’t though. Think all would look better without. Also, if the watch was a tad smaller (39mm) & also had option of an all brushed bracelet & at 20mm it would be 🔥
The new camera was well worth the money Jody. I would choose the Tissot although I notice it now has a sector dial, and kinda on the fence with that. It’s the crown guards on the Citizen that bug me, I mean why? Why? It’s not a dive watch and it makes any symmetry go out of the window. Quite happy with the SARB though so no need really for either really.
The picture quality of your new setup is great! It’s like a veil has been lifted 😁👍 I also prefer the Gentleman over the PRX, not really into integrated bracelet steel sports watches…with a few exceptions. This Citizen is really nice too!
I will take that Citizen please and thank you! Both brands are well represented in my collection. I’ve been screaming for citizen to use their own 9000 series movements more often. I think it tops though Tissot in the ‘looks’ department, and all around package, as well. Thanks Jody!
The Citizen movement is actually one of two new calibres, 0950 & 0951, positioned between the 0200 and 9***. Looking forward to getting the lattice with mother of Pearl dial version, with the 0950, into my collection. Looks neat in photos, absolutely mesmerising in life.
Hey mate! I've seen it labelled the 0951 but the label on the watch calls it 9051. I suspect 9 series based regardless. If only I could crack the back....
I would still go for the PRX Powermatic 80 over these 2 options, for this price bracket. That blue faced PRX still puts a Big Smile on my face, every time I put it on.
I am not super interested in either watch, but what struck me (and it could be my imagination) is that the video does seem noticeably sharper!? I knew you got a new camera, but I figured I'd be loathe to tell the difference!
Tissot is one of my favourite 😍 brands along with citizen. I 2ould pick the tissot as it is not an angular piece.
I really like them both. And I really like that Amazon does these buy on payment plans where you don't pay interest and without credit, can pay over 5 months. I almost bought one of these Tissot Gentlemen, bit have held off. I really like the Visodate. I currently am making payments on Amazon on a Canon RF 24-105 L lens. So congrats on your new setup. Yeah, I could tell right away the difference!
Citizen for me, prefer the case n bracelet. Tho the Tissot is cheaper even in titanium it still has polished midlinks
Citizen case is more interesting, but I do like a green sunburst dial... I think the Tissot edges it for me.
Congratulations on all the big changes in your life: new child, PhD, and best of all, new equipment! LOL. I don't know if your new camera does 4K, but in all honesty continuing to upload in 1080p is probably a better choice anyway. Of these, I'd have to select the Tissot with a quartz movement. I can't justify the price of the automatic Gentleman, and I don't go for the stop sign shape in a watch. Citizen offers a round version for 50% more cash. It must have a different movement as well.
I'll look at the titanium version of the Tissot in time (I have a titanium PR50 from last century) but have several higher grade Citizens so the green one doesn't tempt me.
I'm having Zoolander flashbacks ... Mr. P vs. Mr. X.
'It's a watch off!!!' ...
If i have opportunity to choose from Grand Seiko and Citizen Chronomaster I will choose Chronomaster. But in this case i choose Tissot, because it classic case shape.
Hi beat Citizen would be the preference, but the Tissot looks better.