@@TheHumbleMarksman badass! Lena asked if I wanted to shoot the Raider with her at PCC Nats, so I’m going to try competing with it. Gotta get GM with the baby 365 version first though 😂
@TheHumbleMarksman Not doubting you, but just reading "$800 for the brace" 🤣 That sounds ridiculous to me, and I just checked the website. Although not in stock. The radar X Chassie.(with) brace $540.. But as mentioned I agree with you, it was a ton of fun and easy to shoot.
Dom you can't even put a 5 and 1/2 in barrel on it. Have to replace the slide and it's not threaded you can't put a silencer on if you're going to have something that bulky what difference does it make at that point?
Would love you see you SBR it and get into PCC division for a bit. I think shooting the same COF with your CO gun and a Raider would make for a great comparison video
it provides your front hand more real estate - if it were moved back that half inch or whatever everything would be more clamped - despite looking weird it's probably better ergonomically this way.
I get these things are fun range toys but that is about it. I have zero bid on them. Was nice of you to be gun bunny for Mr. Hop to get some of that sweet, sweet Sig Romeo 9T footage. 😉👍🏻
Tier one SOF uses them. Our systems have killed targets from two of the largest terrorist groups. Just because you don’t understand the use cases does not mean there are no use cases.
there is an executive protection angle you're probably not considering and use with a ballistic shield. There is a role for these to play beyond what a civilian can think up. That said - they're friggin amazing range toys.
it was the SIG NEXT event they did for buyers/media this week. and Yes it's SIG Academy - it was sort of all over NH - Newington, Rochester, the SEC and SA and a big venue room in Portsmouth.
I dont knoe about this one and I love Sig. I pray it doesnt happen , but i have a bad feeling someone is going to shoot their thumb off trying to shoot this too quickly. Every time i watch a video on the Flux, it seems like it could happen easily when moving too quick
It's a shame that these guns are so cool. Nothing could convince me to buy a gun that will remove my ability to reproduce because I stood up at a table.
@@TheHumbleMarksman Not really. I've not seen any evidence that the manual safety stops that from happening. I'd rather just avoid the entire platform. Plus, Walthers are just a higher quality weapon and I'm already invested in that ecosystem.
@@generousghibli6031 there's not good information or evidence of anything some finality would be good. The problem with guns issued to law enforcement is that rank and file law enforcement have them. There are nearly 4 million P320s in circulation - if it truly was a widespread issue - we'd know about it. Obviously that categorizes as an odds vs stakes situation.
@@TheHumbleMarksman idiots just repeating what they hear without actually doing fact finding. If indeed the P320s fire without human intervention while holstered, this current administration would have a field day. SIG would be sued to oblivion by the DOJ, the ATF, and every other state in the union.
@@TheHumbleMarksman While I was being a smartass I do realize that they have sold quite a few. I also know that they have been recalled by the military twice, redesigned at least twice and that Sig is currently being sued in multiple different courts and that they lost a case last week.
@BrianKern2121 At first yes, but once you get to a certain point, you can manipulate them faster and more effective than this Flux system. Not to mention trying to conceal that thang 😂
What is with this absurd obsession with turning concealed carry handguns meant for their compact and hideable size into long guns? Just another way for corporations to upsell accessories and add-ons so their quarterly profits can keep going up I guess.
If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. It’s much easier to control, and yet, barely larger than a handgun. Why does anything larger that isn’t shooting rifle rounds make sense?
there actually is a use case with this you're not considering. Executive Protection and specifically law enforcement applications with a riot shield. Using a shield - you're shouldering the gun and holding the shield - more stability, can still be slung or secured to a chest rig. EP guys are usually wearing coats - this allows them to have a gun with more capability that's easier to aim at far distant targets - at the expense of size. That said - there's a dude who had the 365 Raider in a holster at the event - I didn't spot it on him under a T Shirt and he wasn't a big dude. It's completely possible to conceal the 365 version of this. From a civilian perspective - they're fun as crap to shoot because they're so exotic. I didn't expect to like it being a hard pistol guy - but it's friggin cool.
@@TheHumbleMarksman lighten up francis. you make the i guess im a shill cracks all the time. i know i hit the shitf key with the LOL so you could see it. if you get excited over it, maybe there's some truth to it though......
what's impressive is Ben from Flux Defense uses a Flux raider in USPSA - he just got his M card and is pushign towards GM - only using he raider htat he SBR'd.
you mean the one that's immediately getting appealed and will continue to drag on? I can't add anything to that conversation as it's ongoing and I'm not privy to any new information on it. TFB TV sat with Ron Cohen and asked exactly that. It'll be a minute for the video to drop but keep an eye on it. But also this is a first shots video of a new product - don't be an idiot.
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Awesome to finally meet you man, and was glad that you of all people won the Raider Legion, I’ve always wanted to see you test my stuff. 🤘
Ben was awesome hanging out! I will be SBRing it as soon as it shows up so I will definitely be reaching out for some tips on maximizing it
@@TheHumbleMarksman badass! Lena asked if I wanted to shoot the Raider with her at PCC Nats, so I’m going to try competing with it. Gotta get GM with the baby 365 version first though 😂
@@BenfromFlux Ben you flipping baller
Ah, yes.. the Sig thumb remover 2000.
Adds functionality, used to just be a toe and testicle remover.
Can wait for the day when they come out with one for the p320 X ten
Very cool. Congrats on the win! And thanks for the share!!
Needs a 7" barrel.. Because thumb... I can see them lining up now.. 😅
Tried one today...it was MUCH more fun then I thought it was going to be..I'm just not sure how they arrive at the $1,500 price
The brace by itself is like $800 so that’s a $700 gun
@TheHumbleMarksman Not doubting you, but just reading "$800 for the brace" 🤣 That sounds ridiculous to me, and I just checked the website. Although not in stock. The radar X Chassie.(with) brace $540.. But as mentioned I agree with you, it was a ton of fun and easy to shoot.
my economics ar ea bit off - but directionally correct. It's silly fun - but yeah - it's a little pricy.
You got a Flux Capacity of 60 rounds?! The Libyans would love it Marty!
Wow this is your second PCC video! Are you finally seeing the light!
Eh I will use this one again - to see what my capability can be next to a pistol
This desperately needs a thumb shield.
Rock that in PPC, baby!! You know you want to!
The Fudderizer 2000
Thanks for the video. I'll wait for a while to see if quality is there, and then this night make it into my Home defense.
I hate it when people use pistol braces incorrectly! 🙃 Keep up the great work! 😉
Hope they make it in a ported 10mm version
Congrats on the gun! 😄
Dom you can't even put a 5 and 1/2 in barrel on it. Have to replace the slide and it's not threaded you can't put a silencer on if you're going to have something that bulky what difference does it make at that point?
Would love you see you SBR it and get into PCC division for a bit. I think shooting the same COF with your CO gun and a Raider would make for a great comparison video
that's going to happen.
@@TheHumbleMarksman Looking forward to it!
I'll be waiting for the 10mm!
So not a SBR now since the ruling this last year?It’s not a brace but it it is a collapsible stock but ATF will not bother us then??
So the axg version comes out June ‘26.
Looks pretty fun, the chassis being longer than the slide is throwing me off though.
it provides your front hand more real estate - if it were moved back that half inch or whatever everything would be more clamped - despite looking weird it's probably better ergonomically this way.
Tungsten frame would have been epic
I get these things are fun range toys but that is about it. I have zero bid on them. Was nice of you to be gun bunny for Mr. Hop to get some of that sweet, sweet Sig Romeo 9T footage. 😉👍🏻
An MP5K definitely has more "serious" use than this. But you gotta admit- if it tickles your fancy, it's a cool, fun gun to play with at the range.
@@YeetCannon254 Ed Zachary…do whatcha like, Hoss. GOBBLESS! 😉👍🏻
Tier one SOF uses them. Our systems have killed targets from two of the largest terrorist groups. Just because you don’t understand the use cases does not mean there are no use cases.
@@BenfromFlux k
there is an executive protection angle you're probably not considering and use with a ballistic shield. There is a role for these to play beyond what a civilian can think up.
That said - they're friggin amazing range toys.
Love mine! I don't want to pay for an SBR stamp, but I will eventually look to getting a trust, stamp for a Rugged Obisdian 9 lol.
What??? ATF ruled it’s not an SBR in 2023
Nice facility!
Niiiiice. Way to go champ!!
Humble marksman should do some videos where you shoot subscribers guns too that would be cool lol
Why would they want me to put holes in their guns? Seems wasteful
@@TheHumbleMarksman 😂
That looks like sig academy in NH. Was that during the EDC championship?
it was the SIG NEXT event they did for buyers/media this week. and Yes it's SIG Academy - it was sort of all over NH - Newington, Rochester, the SEC and SA and a big venue room in Portsmouth.
Look at Miss Tia shooting next to you on the firing line 😊
I spent a lot of time with Teya this week. Cool chick.
What caliber is it if you take off the brace?
Everyone knows you put a pistol on a brace it changes the caliber makes it a gun.
Suppresor ready?
I don't know man, this reminds me of when big people ride them tiny motorcycles lol like the REAL little ones😂
Those can be fun too
@@TheHumbleMarksman definitely
JUST BELIEVE IN YOURSELF
At any time did you feel like your thumb was too close to the muzzle?
no
Hmm, thumbs?
I dont knoe about this one and I love Sig. I pray it doesnt happen , but i have a bad feeling someone is going to shoot their thumb off trying to shoot this too quickly. Every time i watch a video on the Flux, it seems like it could happen easily when moving too quick
your thumb is shielded from the blast as long as you're outside of the frame.
Lookin like C-Bum in that thumbnail
Remember: you can touch a brace to your shoulder, you just can't *intend* to.
Pricey and not as ergonomic and as compact as the beretta 93R.
I just realised the blue shirt lady is a hazard please be careful
How does it feel if you use in the more traditional way? Is recoil more manageable with more weight up front?
What optic is on that?
Romeo 2
@TheHumbleMarksman Ty. Planning on getting one and trying to figure out what optic would serve it best. Leaning towards an RMR HD.
American civilian pp-2000
It's a shame that these guns are so cool. Nothing could convince me to buy a gun that will remove my ability to reproduce because I stood up at a table.
this gun has a manual safety that's very usable if that changes anything for you.
@@TheHumbleMarksman Not really. I've not seen any evidence that the manual safety stops that from happening. I'd rather just avoid the entire platform. Plus, Walthers are just a higher quality weapon and I'm already invested in that ecosystem.
@@generousghibli6031 there's not good information or evidence of anything some finality would be good. The problem with guns issued to law enforcement is that rank and file law enforcement have them. There are nearly 4 million P320s in circulation - if it truly was a widespread issue - we'd know about it. Obviously that categorizes as an odds vs stakes situation.
Flux p365
I didn't get to mess with one of those - but I"M curious about them now.
🙌🤘💪☝️🤙🇺🇲
How many people were shot by 320s going off in holsters?
Did you know there are nearly 4 million P320s in the wild?
@@TheHumbleMarksman idiots just repeating what they hear without actually doing fact finding. If indeed the P320s fire without human intervention while holstered, this current administration would have a field day. SIG would be sued to oblivion by the DOJ, the ATF, and every other state in the union.
Let it go you immature jackwagon.
@@TheHumbleMarksman While I was being a smartass I do realize that they have sold quite a few. I also know that they have been recalled by the military twice, redesigned at least twice and that Sig is currently being sued in multiple different courts and that they lost a case last week.
@@tmgjurassic3738 your question is still good, and most of us could see the humor in it. it seems we're awful sensitive around here today.
Why are people trying to turn their pistols into rifles? 😂
I typically don’t get it but this thing is fun as hell
Because pistol shooting is hard.
Save money on buying a PCC for home defense.
@BrianKern2121 At first yes, but once you get to a certain point, you can manipulate them faster and more effective than this Flux system. Not to mention trying to conceal that thang 😂
@@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jwmost people won’t get to that point. Stocked pistols are objectively easier to shoot
What is with this absurd obsession with turning concealed carry handguns meant for their compact and hideable size into long guns? Just another way for corporations to upsell accessories and add-ons so their quarterly profits can keep going up I guess.
If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. It’s much easier to control, and yet, barely larger than a handgun. Why does anything larger that isn’t shooting rifle rounds make sense?
there actually is a use case with this you're not considering. Executive Protection and specifically law enforcement applications with a riot shield. Using a shield - you're shouldering the gun and holding the shield - more stability, can still be slung or secured to a chest rig.
EP guys are usually wearing coats - this allows them to have a gun with more capability that's easier to aim at far distant targets - at the expense of size. That said - there's a dude who had the 365 Raider in a holster at the event - I didn't spot it on him under a T Shirt and he wasn't a big dude. It's completely possible to conceal the 365 version of this.
From a civilian perspective - they're fun as crap to shoot because they're so exotic. I didn't expect to like it being a hard pistol guy - but it's friggin cool.
Once again, you guessed correctly. Lol
@@TheHumbleMarksman “wasn’t a big dude” 😂 more like a pretty tall midget at 5’6” 😂😂😂
Put against your chin...???
Seriously..???
Beating the government agency at their own game requires a bit of stupidity
I actually am NOT even interested in this particular piece in anyway whatsoever!!!…🤔🤨🤦🏽♂️💯💯💯
another sig review.......... sig must really be rolling out the red carpet to youtubers. this is how you get labeled a shill! LOL
Doing media at a media event? Does covering SHOT or NRAAM make you a shill?
not his fault you can't afford a Sig. Don't have to click if you don't have to.. oh you felt the need to comment.. lol
Or, Sig is just better at marketing than everyone else and puts out great firearms.
@@celticspride133 are you really still in the 2nd grade?
@@TheHumbleMarksman lighten up francis. you make the i guess im a shill cracks all the time. i know i hit the shitf key with the LOL so you could see it. if you get excited over it, maybe there's some truth to it though......
So what we’re saying as long as it fits in the box and makes weight.,. We can run this in IDPA CO… got it! 🫡
what's impressive is Ben from Flux Defense uses a Flux raider in USPSA - he just got his M card and is pushign towards GM - only using he raider htat he SBR'd.
SHOULD BE TALKING LAWSUITS THEY LOST
you mean the one that's immediately getting appealed and will continue to drag on? I can't add anything to that conversation as it's ongoing and I'm not privy to any new information on it.
TFB TV sat with Ron Cohen and asked exactly that. It'll be a minute for the video to drop but keep an eye on it.
But also this is a first shots video of a new product - don't be an idiot.