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  • Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Greg Jennings and Kevin Wildes discuss Josh Allen’s comments following the Buffalo Bills loss to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Divisional Round of the NFL playoffs and the FTF crew determine if they’re impressed with Baker Mayfield’s performance vs. Lions.
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  • @FirstThingsFirst
    @FirstThingsFirst  5 месяцев назад +3

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    • @bigdongbob838
      @bigdongbob838 5 месяцев назад

      Wright: "accolades" he puts sb wins and mvps in the same category and calls them "accolades." This totally garbage graf sums up Wright's delusion very well. SB rings are not "accolades," you jaded, jock-sniffing mope.

    • @johnmurray751
      @johnmurray751 5 месяцев назад

      He did tho

  • @joaopedromatos8952
    @joaopedromatos8952 5 месяцев назад +108

    Greg Jennins only person I've seen all day that gets it. That throw Josh Allen went for the endzone while having Diggs open for the 1rst down is innexcusable

    • @ECCENTRICERIC69
      @ECCENTRICERIC69 5 месяцев назад +20

      A missed field goal and 3 dropped catches on perfectly thrown long passes are inexcusable and cost the Bills!

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +24

      He had a man open in the end zone? He went for the play and got hit as he threw the ball. I don’t see an issue with that. He had 3 deep ball dimes and they didn’t catch a single one. The defense didn’t make a stop for 5 straight drives. But yeah let’s blame Allen.

    • @therealbeedubbs35
      @therealbeedubbs35 5 месяцев назад +5

      Diggs was running at the line of scrimmage. 5 yards at best. SMH

    • @creedd15
      @creedd15 5 месяцев назад +4

      Absolutely not, it was maybe 2 yards from the first down marker with the nearest defender 5 yards away. Romo even said it on the broadcast how open Diggs was.

    • @bepohal
      @bepohal 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@larry2281 that dude is right tho. you want the safe 1st down and the clock running down

  • @jaqdax2401
    @jaqdax2401 5 месяцев назад +37

    Bake-show played up to the moment until that INT

    • @alo4912
      @alo4912 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yep right up to that INT in the first drive

    • @severngamingnetwork
      @severngamingnetwork 5 месяцев назад

      @@alo4912 🤣

    • @TheNick_16
      @TheNick_16 5 месяцев назад +10

      ⁠@@alo4912that INT wasn’t his fault lil bro

    • @Adri_Unsung
      @Adri_Unsung 5 месяцев назад

      I was so happy we won but my heart broke for him a little bit there

    • @b84__
      @b84__ 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheNick_16 still goes on stat sheet as with all qbs.. did you use this same argument the previous two weeks when his receiver caught tipped passes for TDs? Did you say those didnt count?

  • @lolmakina5563
    @lolmakina5563 5 месяцев назад +30

    This is possibly the worst outcome. Joe Brady turned the team around mid season and they went to the divisional. I think he’ll get hc interviews and could leave which would require a 3rd offensive gameplan in the past season and off-season. That is a problem a guy like pat doesn’t have to worry about with Andy being the hc and playcaller

    • @Endzoneproductions17
      @Endzoneproductions17 5 месяцев назад +1

      Joe Brady should just become head coach and OC imo

    • @jamesmueller4058
      @jamesmueller4058 4 месяца назад +1

      I know right, every time people talk about the greatness of Mahomes they act like Andy Reid doesn’t exist

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jamesmueller4058 Nobody does that. Every one is aware of Reid's greatness. Ask Shanahan or Sirianni. But it still is Mahomes who executes, and Mahomes who bails the team out with genius improvisation more when the plan does not work.

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade 4 месяца назад

      True. But if they guarantee him 5 mil/year he'll stay.

  • @MufasaxisxKing
    @MufasaxisxKing 5 месяцев назад +337

    Bruh the lions won the game and yall didn’t have anything to say about them and yall talking about baker like he balled out 😂

    • @MufasaxisxKing
      @MufasaxisxKing 5 месяцев назад +54

      Wildes can the lions please get a segment if they make the super bowl or will you guys spend 45 minutes on purdy then

    • @erictavares678
      @erictavares678 5 месяцев назад +32

      there’s 4 more days in the week don’t worry

    • @foundationsyth9825
      @foundationsyth9825 5 месяцев назад +37

      They have 5 business days to talk about the 4 games that happened. So theyll space it out. Nobody is gonna NOT talk about the Lions. They are the biggest story in nfl right now

    • @MrMillefail
      @MrMillefail 5 месяцев назад +4

      I bet they open with either the Lions or the Ravens tomorrow.

    • @stephentripp7154
      @stephentripp7154 5 месяцев назад +14

      The lions gave up 300+ passing yards and 3 tds to baker effin mayfield. No reason to talk about the lions. They season over next week. Good season lions

  • @thetarheel2010j
    @thetarheel2010j 5 месяцев назад +80

    Brou gave Baker props but Nick couldn’t do the same for Purdy

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 5 месяцев назад +5

      Or Allen. But sure, Baker is the talk of the town. What a joke.

    • @anirudhakoppaka3422
      @anirudhakoppaka3422 5 месяцев назад +7

      Bro Nick definitely does give Purdy props sometimes. He just says Purdy isn't MVP

    • @thetarheel2010j
      @thetarheel2010j 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@anirudhakoppaka3422 what show did you watch today??

    • @norcalgiantsfan1
      @norcalgiantsfan1 4 месяца назад +2

      @@anirudhakoppaka3422 When a dude has MVP numbers, and you say, "Ignore those numbers, he is a middle tier quarterback, or MAYBE slightly above middle tier", that is not props. That is begrudging praise. Its fake.

    • @miamimercenary9623
      @miamimercenary9623 4 месяца назад +9

      unpopular opinion, Baker played a much better game than Purdy this past weekend. now am I betting on Baker over Purdy, not a chance but there wasn’t much to praise about Purdy‘s play other than the last drive this weekend

  • @NPAMike
    @NPAMike 5 месяцев назад +27

    You throttled him and then you asked him to perform. The reason he is because of the dynamic plays but that also comes with the turnovers.

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +7

      He did perform but don’t think his receivers dropping 3 deep ball dimes, his defense not getting a stop for 5 straight drives, and a wide right field goal is necessarily on Allen.

    • @paulklingele
      @paulklingele 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@larry2281Just like Toney dropping a pass to a pick-6 to lose the Chiefs-Lions game, or MVS dropping a TD in the Chiefs-Packers game, or any of the other 40 drops that lost games for the Chiefs are necessarily on Mahomes, but they happened.
      It's amazing how many disastrous breaks the Bills survived in this game. As easy as it is to imagine Diggs catching a 60 yard bomb, it's easy to imagine the Chiefs scoring another 2 TD and blowing out the Bills.

    • @whoknows9193
      @whoknows9193 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@paulklingeleno one blamed Mahomes tho. They all still know he’s king. Somehow lamar is already better than Allen when he hasn’t had a deep playoff drive once

    • @francmittelo6731
      @francmittelo6731 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@larry2281
      " his receivers dropping 3 deep ball dimes, his defense not getting a stop for 5 straight drives, and a wide right field goal is necessarily on Allen."
      LOL
      And there it is "but but but he has no weapons, he has no O Line, he has no running game, he needs a kicker, it is the coaches' fault and blah blah blah" excuses.
      If you are getting paid Franchise QB money, that means the team has decided that you are good enough to do with what you have.
      So, just do it.
      Winners have no excuses.
      LOL

    • @donkeybus
      @donkeybus 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@francmittelo6731bro its a team sport, I think you have it confused with tennis. See the quarterback THROWS the ball and the receivers have to catch it, the qb cant do that.... Swifties suddenly think they know football😂

  • @conlanchastain3708
    @conlanchastain3708 5 месяцев назад +4

    Both QBs were pretty good in the KC, Buffalo game but that game wasn’t about either of them.
    Neither defense could stop the run all game and then suddenly everyone forgot how to play offense in the fourth quarter

  • @jordansoerries5911
    @jordansoerries5911 5 месяцев назад +7

    Kind of annoying you talk about the losing qb in the lions bucs game. Not a single segment for detroit?

    • @codycarter1099
      @codycarter1099 5 месяцев назад +1

      I couldn't see your comment from all your tears

    • @jordansoerries5911
      @jordansoerries5911 5 месяцев назад

      @codycarter1099 detroit gets no love compared to the other teams still left in the playoffs and it makes no sense

    • @coletrahan2739
      @coletrahan2739 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jordansoerries5911baker and the lions don’t get enough talked about, it’s always the new upcoming teams that do good, they don’t get talked about much, but once the lions and bucs keep on winning they will be talked about a bunch. Trust me, the lions are only gonna get better

    • @Kellastico
      @Kellastico 4 месяца назад

      They did on LIVE TV, just not on RUclips Clips

  • @user-tg2yv5pq1z
    @user-tg2yv5pq1z 5 месяцев назад +3

    I’m surprised Nick knows who Joe Montana is

  • @kmd4004
    @kmd4004 5 месяцев назад +24

    @0:58 Acho on "Speak" gave great comp for what this is...Mahomes v Allen is NOT not Brady v Manning, it's Brady vs Rivers. Perfect!

    • @rileylopez4037
      @rileylopez4037 5 месяцев назад +14

      Nick said this last week

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s not even close to Rivers lol. It’s a lot closer to Manning than people realize or want to admit. Rivers never even beat Tom and didn’t perform in the playoffs. Allen already has 11 more TDs than Rivers in less games in the playoffs. If Brady vs Mahomes is considered a rivalry then Allen vs Mahomes is definitely one.

    • @kelvinarauz8132
      @kelvinarauz8132 5 месяцев назад

      but it actually is Rivers, as uncomfortable as that is to Bills fan its true@@larry2281

    • @christr1ut87
      @christr1ut87 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@larry2281Good point. Mahomes never beat Brady and I’m going to bet that he never does. Allen has not beaten Mahomes in the playoffs yet which would make it perhaps like Brady Manning pre 2006. Although I would argue that pre 2006 Manning was a better QB than Brady and it wasn’t even close. People have to do a better job of understanding that this isn’t basketball. 1 player can not have that much influence over the end result. A QB has more than any other position but still it isn’t even close to the influence a single basketball player has on the outcome of a season. Yet you will hear the same people arguing that MJ had Scottie Pippen and Lebron didn’t have anyone playing with him until he got to Miami. Give me a break. Sure Scottie was great but the one player influence of MJ has everything to do with why they won the championships. The one player influence of Lebron was good enough to dominate the east when they were extremely weak but not good enough to win it all.

    • @RL-ww5ev
      @RL-ww5ev 5 месяцев назад

      ​@christr1ut87 so where was all this MJ influence pre pippen?

  • @thewayyouwearyourhat4888
    @thewayyouwearyourhat4888 5 месяцев назад +4

    All season everyone said the Chiefs receivers were the problem and biggest story was Diggs having feet for hands.

  • @mjcastro82
    @mjcastro82 5 месяцев назад +4

    I have to give massive credit to Wildes for this show. In my mind, he is the leader/point guard of this team, and he knew to just pass the ball and let the others cook. Everybody went off and Wildes knew just to conduct efficiently. Great respect to Wildes.

    • @DrProfessorWeed
      @DrProfessorWeed 4 месяца назад +1

      Ernie Johnson Jr.

    • @miamimercenary9623
      @miamimercenary9623 4 месяца назад +1

      Wildes, is this your burner?? you forgot to say “love the show“

  • @colinforsecs3393
    @colinforsecs3393 4 месяца назад +4

    I wonder if the Ravens lose. They'll have the same "Josh Allen Energy" towards Lamar Jackson.

    • @DeportillegalAliens
      @DeportillegalAliens 4 месяца назад

      If Lamar was on the chargers he ain't even in the league accept at RB...Lamar has the number 1 defense and kicker

  • @bigbass4811
    @bigbass4811 5 месяцев назад

    Greg out here on tv today bringing "I just put in my 2 weeks notice" energy

  • @aaustonn
    @aaustonn 5 месяцев назад

    Can we please get a post or copy of "First Things First Bowl" that graphic was gold
    As a fan, I need this🙏🏻

  • @legitdragon6202
    @legitdragon6202 5 месяцев назад +13

    But but but but Bills SOOOOOOO dangerous - rest of the media for the 4th straight year 😂🤣

    • @samuelwallace2782
      @samuelwallace2782 5 месяцев назад +6

      I mean, they are dangerous. The chiefs arguably played almost as close to perfect as they could have. Even the fumble was a fantastic and lucky defensive play. And the chiefs won by 3, after a missed field goal. It was a great win, and I'm not taking anything away from the chiefs, but it can be said that the Bills were in it to the final minute. So I'd say the bills are dangerous

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@samuelwallace2782he’s another arrogant Chiefs fan. Just ignore em. Even if the Bills won this game they would still discredit the Bills and Allen.

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yall act like they just got steamrolled... How stupid.

    • @dillchives
      @dillchives 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@samuelwallace2782The Chiefs definitely didn't play nearly perfectly, they missed falling on two fairly easy fumbles and barely missed two prime INT opportunities. Plus the gift fumble at the 1 yard line that even let the Bills stay in it at all. Buffalo was very fortunate it wasn't lopsided.

    • @jayceh
      @jayceh 4 месяца назад

      ​@@samuelwallace2782Chiefs (read: Mecole Hardman) played bad _and_ got unlucky on a fumble and an obvious pick 6
      If the Chiefs got 1 of the 4 50/50 plays, it's 34
      If they got 2 out of 4 it's 41

  • @ramzdalastpharoah
    @ramzdalastpharoah 4 месяца назад +2

    Nick Buffalo was a wounded duck. I’m a bills fan and I knew they were gonna lose this game without Gabe Davis without five defensive starters. It was pretty easy to see, but they gave it their best effort now this week Kansas City will get pole axed by ravens

  • @raysville7256
    @raysville7256 5 месяцев назад +1

    Didn't know the little goatee was so fond of Wings.

  • @whoisd3v
    @whoisd3v 4 месяца назад +1

    I feel like the Bills will be just fine, and will come back ALOT stronger next season for sure. Joe Brady and the HC found something with the offense and they'll thrive with a healthier defense, no doubt.
    What I do hope Joe starts doing next season is scheming more around the TEs to help them convert even more on offense. Think about it; Brady had Gronk. Brees had Jeremy Shockey/Jimmy Graham. Elway had Shannon Sharpe. Phillip Rivers had Antonio Gates. Tony Romo & Dez Bryant.
    Even nowadays Pat Mahomes HAS Travis Kelce. Brock has Kittle. Jared Goff has La Porta.. Every solid QB had that TE connection they could rely on often, and the Dawson Knox/Dalton Kincaid combo that the Bills have can be every bit as good as the TE's I've mentioned alongside Josh Allen.

  • @TeamRocketRed
    @TeamRocketRed 5 месяцев назад +35

    If Mahomes misses that TD throw the media would be tearing him apart. The double standards for Josh Allen is insane. Also blaming the kicker for why they lost is ridiculous, even if he makes the FG they left too much time for Mahomes to drive down the field anyway.

    • @bigdongbob838
      @bigdongbob838 5 месяцев назад +7

      Swap kickers and Bills are in AFC championship and Chiefs are...wherever. Golf course, or whatever they do in that dump of a city in the off-season.

    • @TeamRocketRed
      @TeamRocketRed 5 месяцев назад +19

      @@bigdongbob838 If Hardman doesn't fumble the Chiefs win by 10. If the Josh Allen fumble doesn't get a lucky bounce they never even get the chance to kick the FG. Keep coping.

    • @cooper_4420
      @cooper_4420 5 месяцев назад

      @@bigdongbob838the Bills 100 percent caught more breaks than the cheifs did. I don’t wanna hear it

    • @stimulus3177
      @stimulus3177 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, expecting QBs to win...what a double standard.

    • @stimulus3177
      @stimulus3177 5 месяцев назад

      @@bigdongbob838 BUT BUT BUT!!! IF ONLY! If Buffalo fantasies were reality they might not be having their lunch eaten by the Chiefs every year.

  • @polumathes9729
    @polumathes9729 5 месяцев назад +21

    I think the Bucs could definitely win a Super Bowl with Baker. I think they could’ve done it this year, honestly.

    • @TrainerCoachMacKay
      @TrainerCoachMacKay 5 месяцев назад +7

      Yes, Baker can help his team win a SB, but this year, their ceiling was just getting there (to a SB).

    • @polumathes9729
      @polumathes9729 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@TrainerCoachMacKay that’s fair.

    • @9Greyskies
      @9Greyskies 5 месяцев назад +4

      No they went through their ceiling when they beat Philly.

    • @yellowflash1971
      @yellowflash1971 5 месяцев назад +4

      If they could’ve done it this year…they would’ve done it this year 😂baker not sniffing a bowl

    • @PeeDeePalms
      @PeeDeePalms 5 месяцев назад +1

      Mayfield will never win a Super Bowl.

  • @themoneyman1752
    @themoneyman1752 4 месяца назад +1

    Bills need to keep Diggs, Draft a WR in the 1st rd and last go after King Henry in Free Agency

  • @Thebogeybro
    @Thebogeybro 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can anyone talk about the play calling of McDermont?? No runs on the final 4 downs, throwing the ball in that situation is so stupid, leaving 145 on the clock td or field goal is stupid

  • @RA10H56
    @RA10H56 5 месяцев назад +4

    The cheifs defense is where its at!

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 5 месяцев назад

      Spags gotta be a top 5 D coordinator of all time right?

  • @tracybranson1699
    @tracybranson1699 5 месяцев назад +2

    As a Chief's fan Allen is a dangerously good QB. He will get a ring. He'll have his year.

    • @philipmoser3784
      @philipmoser3784 4 месяца назад +3

      I'm a Chiefs fan that agrees. I don't think the Mahomes/ Allen rivalry has to necessarily parallel Brady/ Manning. They've already given us the 2 most incredible playoff games I've ever witnessed. I'm either pacing or sitting on the edge of my seat the whole game.

    • @tracybranson1699
      @tracybranson1699 4 месяца назад

      Edge of the seat, nail biting games for sure. Go Chiefs. @@philipmoser3784

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 4 месяца назад

      Not so sure that’ll ever happen. He seems committed to Buffalo and Buffalo seems committed to Sean McDermott. McDermott’s postseason defense is legitimately all-time horrible. With a sh*t show defensive performance every single year, Buffalo will never get outta the AFC regardless of how good Allen plays.

  • @childofthe80s60
    @childofthe80s60 5 месяцев назад +1

    If a pass is not dropped or the kicker makes a field goal, are we having a different discussion today?

    • @raysville7256
      @raysville7256 5 месяцев назад +1

      IF Hardman doesn't fumble, IF Chamarri Conner scoops and scores Allen's fumble, IF Trent McDuffie makes the INT, yeah, it's a different conversation. Now stow that bill's merch until next season! LMAO go Wings!

  • @jenniferaceste8823
    @jenniferaceste8823 4 месяца назад

    Josh Allen Total Post Season Passing & Rushing TD'S: 26
    Mahomes Total Post Season Passing & Rushing TD'S: 42
    Josh Allen Toal Regular Season Passing & Rushing TD'S: 220
    Mahomes Total Regular Season Passing & Rushing TD'S: 231

  • @esauparker3306
    @esauparker3306 5 месяцев назад

    Had a hour show, 8min segment and didn't mention Lions once😒🤔WOW

  • @69Chevy
    @69Chevy 5 месяцев назад +1

    But but Baker always misses that throw in the big game.

  • @BrilexLaAuthority
    @BrilexLaAuthority 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is more Brady Vs Rivers... Allen is Phillip Rivers without the kids

    • @lukevacca1537
      @lukevacca1537 4 месяца назад +1

      That's an insult to Allen. Alreasy has the same amount of playoff wins as Rivers had in his career, and the only QB ever to have 4 straight years of 40+ TD's.

  • @el_sueno
    @el_sueno 5 месяцев назад +2

    Diggs should leave the Bills at any cost

    • @nickjerome4992
      @nickjerome4992 4 месяца назад +1

      At this point it may be better for both teams. Diggs has been a mediocre receiver the last half of the season, then he started to have some massive drops in games, this one included. Buffalo also has a cap problem so I wonder if he is moved after June 1st.

    • @el_sueno
      @el_sueno 4 месяца назад

      @@nickjerome4992 I think he dropped those passes on purpose because they weren't giving him the looks he deserved for the past two seasons.

    • @el_sueno
      @el_sueno 4 месяца назад

      Quiet quitting

    • @nickjerome4992
      @nickjerome4992 4 месяца назад +1

      @@el_sueno well now he looks like the idiot, he talked a lot and then disappeared when they needed him most

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 4 месяца назад

      @@el_suenomoron he was the most targeted on the team.

  • @crimsoncash1051
    @crimsoncash1051 4 месяца назад

    It’s turning into Brady vs rivers if anything

  • @arianshaska7590
    @arianshaska7590 5 месяцев назад +2

    Go Leos

  • @daviddibble2744
    @daviddibble2744 4 месяца назад

    People will continue to talk about Allen like he’s a superbowl champion. They can’t say anything bad about him, yet criticize Mahomes for the smallest mistakes it’s funny. People jus hate on greatness!

  • @jeanfourcade
    @jeanfourcade 5 месяцев назад +4

    Allen flunked the game on that 2nd & 9, and again on 3rd&9. This was clutch time, and Allen doesn't yet understand how to close a game. He still confuses heroe football for winning football. He's young, he'll learn.

    • @christianmcintyre4984
      @christianmcintyre4984 4 месяца назад +2

      3 dropped catches and a missed field goal. To say Allen “flunked” tells me you already had an opinion on Allen coming in

    • @CalebJohnston
      @CalebJohnston 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@christianmcintyre4984and mahomes receivers dropped 2 balls and fumbled one out the back of the end zone. Mahomes overcomes his and his teammates mistakes. Allen cant.

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade 4 месяца назад

      @@christianmcintyre4984 You're very perceptive. My opinion was "it's his year, Allen is going all the way. Beating the Chiefs, again, ay home, is a done deal." He lost his nerve in clutch time, I'm disappointed, but he'll be stronger next season. What's your opinion of him ?

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade 4 месяца назад

      @@CalebJohnston Thank you Caleb.

    • @christianmcintyre4984
      @christianmcintyre4984 4 месяца назад

      @@CalebJohnston I’m tired of QBs getting the “they overcome “ the chiefs defense forced a makeable field goal that Tyler has missed. If bass makes the field goal and mahomes pulls off another score to win then we can say mahomes overcame. To say Allen can’t even though he put his team in position to ty the game is laughable @ best…

  • @pandaborg2466
    @pandaborg2466 5 месяцев назад +7

    Allen Mahomes was never even close to Brady manning

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 5 месяцев назад +1

      Why? Manning took 6 years to even win a post season game. And in those previous matches, most of them were one-sided.
      Allen & Mahomes always goes down to the wire. Did you miss the stat last night that said in 6 meetings, the combined score is 179 to 179? How can you get any more evenly matched than that? Yall let Nick warp your mindset too much. It's bogus.

    • @pandaborg2466
      @pandaborg2466 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@corey2232 I think you have to realize that just because 2 qbs play well against eachother does not mean it is like that historically rivalry. The reason that rivalry was incredible was because of three main reasons. First it’s as nick said that manning was known for being the better qb but Brady was known for having the post season success no one else had and that’s what made not just there games against eachother incredible but the narrative behind their entire careers incredible. Another main reason was when you looked at there paths to football and see manning come from possibly the best football family and be drafted first overall while Brady came from out of no where and was drafted in the sixth round. Finally this is the best rivalry in football because of the longevity that came out of it and how it lasted longer than any other rivalry of this sort.
      In my final points I’m not saying Mahomes Allen cannot become like this rivalry but you have to give it time. It is way too early to call their rivalry to be even close to the best rivalry in the nfl. And that is fine they can have a rivalry that is amazing but that does not mean it has to be compared to Brady manning.

  • @edscott4729
    @edscott4729 5 месяцев назад

    The Bucs did not have a full complement of $$$ toward the salary cap. Hopefully, next year will be different in that regard.

    • @RightStickRob
      @RightStickRob 4 месяца назад

      It’s way worse next year. 45 million over the cap

  • @isaiahearnheart7129
    @isaiahearnheart7129 5 месяцев назад

    The bucs HAVE TO improve their o-line and defense. And keep mike evans 😂

  • @paulmayer8654
    @paulmayer8654 5 месяцев назад +1

    How funny that the segment about a player who can cause so many headaches was sponsored by Bayer 😂😂 by the way, what does it say about the Lions that they keep beating the QBs that you guys keep slobbering all over?

  • @melvinguz11
    @melvinguz11 5 месяцев назад

    🔥

  • @mseth2500
    @mseth2500 4 месяца назад

    "if Diggs had caught that..." well if hardman hadnt fumbled then what???"

  • @charlestonantoine
    @charlestonantoine 5 месяцев назад +2

    No respect for the lion from all these shows dammmmmm you all are wrong for that……

  • @tomek6132
    @tomek6132 4 месяца назад

    Mahomes vs Allen is more like Brady vs Rivers/Ben

  • @yorkbothe4409
    @yorkbothe4409 4 месяца назад

    Brou come on, Goff could have lunch behind his O-Line and then throw the ball. Give Baker the some quality of O-Line and he will reach the SB.

  • @pbnaj
    @pbnaj 4 месяца назад

    This dude trying so hard to make a 6th year guy the GOAT hahahaha

  • @rair1118
    @rair1118 5 месяцев назад +2

    Allen shouldn’t be in the same sentence as Peyton. Anyone that watched Manning play knows how cerebral he was.

    • @joebriggs5781
      @joebriggs5781 5 месяцев назад +2

      Didn't it take Peyton until like his 9th season and age 30 to win a SB?

    • @rair1118
      @rair1118 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@joebriggs5781 five league MVPs the level of competition as well. Dude had to freaken play Tom Brady all the time. Come on

    • @joebriggs5781
      @joebriggs5781 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@rair1118 He actually didn't. They only met like 3 times in the playoffs in his first 9 years. Then I think only 2 times after that when he was with the Broncos. Manning had a lot of disappointing playoff losses to teams like the Chargers and Jets. People act like these two guys played every season or something.

    • @rair1118
      @rair1118 5 месяцев назад

      @@joebriggs5781 we aren’t actually comparing or saying Allen is in the same stratosphere as Manning are we? If that’s your stance, you’re definitely trolling.

    • @TW__________
      @TW__________ 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@rair1118 these bills/allen fans going hard for they boy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @breign72
    @breign72 4 месяца назад

    Not sure how anyone could blame Josh Allen on this loss. The Chiefs NEVER punted in this game. NEVER PUNTED DURING THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME. You obviously have to look at the Bills defense on this.

  • @zacharymoser177
    @zacharymoser177 5 месяцев назад +4

    Good lord, even if the lions win the bowl it’ll still be about the bills, purdy, or mahomes.

    • @JayK07
      @JayK07 4 месяца назад

      yup

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 4 месяца назад

      Those are Nick’s current obsessions so he’s not gonna shut up about them any time soon

  • @MrDumbledick
    @MrDumbledick 5 месяцев назад +6

    Brou making all the excuses for Buffalo that he excoriates Nick for using for his chiefs during the regular season.

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +2

      Didn’t make excuses, he just laid out the facts. And compared to what Nick does, it’s nothing. According to Nick the Chiefs can do no wrong. He holds double standards when it comes to his teams or teams he likes compared to everyone else. I wouldn’t have an issue with Nick’s takes if he wasn’t so biased towards them.

    • @CalebJohnston
      @CalebJohnston 4 месяца назад

      ​@@larry2281was he wrong? Allen had the better receivers, the better RB, the better oline, homefield advantage, and 3 of the chiefs defensive starters out for the game.
      You know when Allen has always had the better defense, Mahomes won those games. Allen can't.

  • @ramzdalastpharoah
    @ramzdalastpharoah 4 месяца назад

    It’s definitely a psychological thing. They beat Kansas City pretty much every regular season in arrowhead

  • @mkkmkk2713
    @mkkmkk2713 4 месяца назад

    Nick wrong loses all credibility after stating what it takes and then acknowledging Brock does it and still won't accept Purdy.

  • @coreypasley7537
    @coreypasley7537 4 месяца назад

    Fallacy arguemrnt … Allen was without his second best receiver .. and three receivers dropped deep ball passes that were perfectly thrown .

  • @calvinhobbes7032
    @calvinhobbes7032 4 месяца назад

    Those long plays not working was not josh or Joe Brady’s fault at all those receivers let the team down big time!! Three dots hit them right in the hand and they don’t come down with it

  • @wilsonmatt781
    @wilsonmatt781 4 месяца назад

    Crazy the media constantly disrespects the Lions. The Lions won and they are talking about Baker.

  • @robi5192
    @robi5192 5 месяцев назад

    Why don't I see any clips talking about Jared and the Lions? Did I miss, or is it because Nick was so WRONG?

  • @maxmcgloin
    @maxmcgloin 5 месяцев назад

    Baker Mayfield 63.4 Comp% 349 Pyds 3 TDs 2 INTs 94.5 Rat.

  • @user-wy9ev6ds4j
    @user-wy9ev6ds4j 4 месяца назад

    Why are these shows unable to acknowledge the Lions in any sort of fashion. All they talked about is every losing QB and team that moved on besides the Lions.

  • @rodneyedwards789
    @rodneyedwards789 4 месяца назад

    Could you people please talk about something besides Mahomes and the Chiefs every day every subject

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 4 месяца назад

    The first int wasn't bakers fault , when a receiver bats the ball in the air and gets picked off that should be an error or something shouldn't be an int against the QB. I've always loved Mike Evans but he had a few drops in that game. Had some great plays but a few drops too. Lions played a clean game and barely got past Tampa 49ers are gonna smoke the lions , been a great story but it ends Sunday.

  • @devonterichards3064
    @devonterichards3064 5 месяцев назад

    You guys never talk about the lions

  • @Lionsinblack
    @Lionsinblack 4 месяца назад

    The time will come when you WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE LIONS..
    Detroit vs EVERYBODY!

  • @markk0023
    @markk0023 4 месяца назад

    not true he had a monster game vs new England in the playoffs with 0 turnovers.

  • @megalodon2012
    @megalodon2012 5 месяцев назад +3

    Brady/Rivers is probably a better comparison at this point.

    • @wyliesalimeno9602
      @wyliesalimeno9602 5 месяцев назад

      I think when Burrow is healthy he is Mahomes' true rival.

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s really not. You realize Rivers never beat Brady right?

    • @wyliesalimeno9602
      @wyliesalimeno9602 5 месяцев назад +1

      @larry2281 And Allen never beat Mahomes in a game that mattered. I blame Diggs more on this one though and that dumb fake punt.

    • @ramzdalastpharoah
      @ramzdalastpharoah 4 месяца назад +1

      Well, Josh Allen has her record that no one has most touchdowns in first six season and that includes Patrick Mahomes, who he just took it from

    • @CalebJohnston
      @CalebJohnston 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ramzdalastpharoahthat's because mahomes started 1 game in 2017. 😂 Game to game, mahomes has 43 more tds. A whole season for Allen.

  • @karl123graf
    @karl123graf 5 месяцев назад +1

    Talent is not enough, this the Mental side that makes the difference. Josh is no strong mentally yet

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 5 месяцев назад

      He’s got the 2nd most playoff wins of this era in that conference only NE and KC have won SBs out the AFC

    • @karl123graf
      @karl123graf 5 месяцев назад

      @@isaiahh4108 Not sure what your point is, he lost to Burrows and Patrick at home in playoffs.

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 5 месяцев назад

      @@karl123graf okay but has also beaten Lamar and Mia the AFC is loaded and his team has only been behind KC Cin didn’t even make it

    • @karl123graf
      @karl123graf 5 месяцев назад

      @@isaiahh4108 he did, I guest you can be happy with that stat. He can win on regular session. How many MVP's for Josh?

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 5 месяцев назад

      @@karl123graf Lamar’s elite as well but like look at this year Allen was just as valuable as Lamar it was a pretty MVP season Allen got robbed of one imo tho

  • @larrylindgren9484
    @larrylindgren9484 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yet Baker with a 1 over a minute with a chance to tie throws a horrible INT. It wasn't open. The only player open was the DB. It wasn't 4th down. If he throws it away, you get another throw. That's kind of been Baker his whole career. He'll have his struggle games. He'll have insanely hot games (last game). Then he'll have this game. 1 costly INT. And other that was just horrible. Look at his numbers and they were pretty good. The two INT killed him. Baker is a bit like Geno. He's not bad but he's never going to take you anywhere either because he'll have those team crushing turnovers. And just enough bad games during the year to keep your team in the wildcard and on the road in the playoffs.

  • @christianhenriday
    @christianhenriday 5 месяцев назад

    The mistake was thinking the next rivalry is Mahomes Allen. It’s Mahomes and Lamar

    • @AVJ2526
      @AVJ2526 5 месяцев назад

      Mahomes burrow

  • @user-td4le6kr6o
    @user-td4le6kr6o 5 месяцев назад

    Paying Baker $33MM/ year is certifiably insane

  • @jakkeday1
    @jakkeday1 5 месяцев назад

    Signing Baker to a long term deal is a waste of cash because the Bucs need to rebuild.

  • @bigdeboatl23
    @bigdeboatl23 4 месяца назад

    It's more like Brady vs Philip Rivers. Allen ain't no where near Manning level.

  • @cheerioss-9121
    @cheerioss-9121 4 месяца назад

    It’d be cool if just like how Brou is a man of his word, takes being wrong in stride, Nick did the same thing. He’s done it, but rarely. Like I can count on one finger. The warriors and Wiggins, Jokic then this years Lamar. He just needs to understand it’s fine to be wrong you aren’t getting paid to accurately predict the future

  • @OldManInternet
    @OldManInternet 4 месяца назад

    As someone who's not a fan of the Bills or Allen, this loss really wasn't on him. He played good enough to win that game, and was let down by Diggs and Bass choking. That said, Allen is not the Manning to Mahome's Brady. That is still Burrow, until someone else comes in to Arrowhead in the playoffs and forces the issue. If we're making a 2000's QB comparison, Allen is more like a Rivers or a Roethlisberger.

  • @andrewhatt349
    @andrewhatt349 5 месяцев назад

    Where tf is the lions content???

  • @ethancooper1509
    @ethancooper1509 4 месяца назад +2

    It's shocking how little actual ball is talked about on these shows.waffling

  • @algill5079
    @algill5079 5 месяцев назад

    The Lions did win and went to the Conference Championship game right?

  • @denzellward5499
    @denzellward5499 5 месяцев назад

    Bills and chiefs games are getting closer and closer. This year has made it very clear, chiefs have to get better offensively and the bills need younger defensive backs. One team is regressing and the other is aging. It’s always fun to watch the 2 play, but if big changes aren’t made next year, i can see these 2 teams being middle the pack. Likely 3-6 seeds

    • @raysville7256
      @raysville7256 5 месяцев назад +1

      One team is going to the AFC as a Habit, and the other is going to oblivion. LMAO

    • @denzellward5499
      @denzellward5499 4 месяца назад

      @@raysville7256 you’re saying this now but the regression is becoming more and more evident each year. Only a fool ignores the signs. Both teams need some work. The talent in the AFC is increasing faster than expected

    • @CalebJohnston
      @CalebJohnston 4 месяца назад

      ​@@denzellward5499the chiefs need 2 competent receivers.
      The bills need to not be 30 million over the cap for 2024 already. They're cooked.

    • @denzellward5499
      @denzellward5499 4 месяца назад

      @@CalebJohnston the Bills cap space is something that can easily be fixed with a few restructures. The talent of every other team increasing faster than your own is something that’s out of their control. The AFC is becoming closer and closer. Let this year be an example of what’s to come. Bills came from 11th and were lucky to be in 2nd in the AFC. The Chiefs came from 1-2 seed every season, to the 3rd. Bills fired their OC but that’s not enough. Both teams gonna need some changes or they’re slowly gonna become 2 teams with a good QB that can manage to get them to the playoffs

    • @CalebJohnston
      @CalebJohnston 4 месяца назад

      @@denzellward5499 the chiefs have 70 mil/ish next year if the cap raises to 240. Then the next year they'll be at 130 mil free. The chiefs are absolutely fine. If you added 1 good wr, this team would absolutely be in the sb. But I hear what you're saying.

  • @Therathrive
    @Therathrive 5 месяцев назад +3

    The long balls Brou?
    He literally threw three perfect ones.
    I can’t watch this non-sense.

  • @dominator4247
    @dominator4247 4 месяца назад

    Mahomes and burrow are the Brady manning not Josh trashlan

  • @bigrondo9304
    @bigrondo9304 5 месяцев назад

    I love this show but yall really dont spend much time talking about the Lions and they are the team that won smh

  • @danda645
    @danda645 5 месяцев назад

    Bills had opportunities to win but failed.

  • @danda645
    @danda645 5 месяцев назад

    Allen is like dak cant get past divisional or superbowl

  • @alexander0the0gray
    @alexander0the0gray 4 месяца назад

    Man, Wildes has really lost control of Nick and his langue on the show…

  • @user-jz9eg9mt1c
    @user-jz9eg9mt1c 4 месяца назад

    I dont get how nobody's talking about how the bucs had 1 timeout left and if the lions miss that FG its a one possesion game with enough time on the clock. WTF!!!

    • @wilmer799
      @wilmer799 4 месяца назад

      Because they didn’t miss the field goal

    • @user-jz9eg9mt1c
      @user-jz9eg9mt1c 4 месяца назад

      @wilmer799 the last play of the game was definitely a kneel not a field goal

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 4 месяца назад

    Injuries caused McDermott to fake punt on their own 30 playing Patrick fricken Mahomes? The bills players and coach choked all over themselves in this game. For every great Josh Allen play there is a head scratcher , throwing balls into coverage or setting his receivers up to get melted by defenders. Even the final minutes taking shots at the end zone instead of running the ball and killing clock to atleast tie the game.

  • @Wrasseman10
    @Wrasseman10 4 месяца назад

    Baker played well. Problem was tb defence let goff have a Sunday dinner and throw 15 yard crossers after dessert

  • @michaeldipaola1313
    @michaeldipaola1313 5 месяцев назад

    Josh Allen’s failed season? Football is a team sport so how did he fail?

  • @larry2281
    @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +5

    My main issue with Nick besides being insufferable. Is that no matter what he so biased towards the Chiefs that he consistently holds them to double standards that don’t apply to them and apply to everyone else. Even if the Allen and the Bills won he would discredit them. Even though he’s been wrong all year about many things.

    • @Salvadosal19
      @Salvadosal19 5 месяцев назад

      Cause they’re reigning Super Bowl Champs. Yes, it is over the top, dramatic and entertaining sometimes even as a Chiefs fan. But at the end of the day, Bills lost. When Chiefs lost to Bengals in AFC champ game, they lost. No what’s, ifs or buts about it. Come back next year and play harder. And maybe defeat Mahomes in playoffs 😂

    • @Johenz
      @Johenz 5 месяцев назад

      Chiefs went to 4 straight afc championships game

    • @Salvadosal19
      @Salvadosal19 5 месяцев назад

      @@Johenz actually, this Sunday will be their 6th AFC championship appearance, in a row.

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Salvadosal19 It would help if the Bills defense wasn’t so banged up. I think as long as Allen and Mahomes are in the league neither team is going anywhere. The matchups are always great and never disappoints.

    • @raysville7256
      @raysville7256 5 месяцев назад

      If the Allen won what?

  • @joebriggs5781
    @joebriggs5781 5 месяцев назад

    Nick Wright is playing a villain and some of you are falling for it. You can think 2 things at the same time - Josh Allen is really good - Pat Mahomes is better. That doesn't make any QB trash that isn't Mahomes.

  • @user-wl4xr8lb1e
    @user-wl4xr8lb1e 5 месяцев назад

    Baker>Purdy. WATCH THE TAPE!

    • @NeverSober8008
      @NeverSober8008 4 месяца назад

      With the game on the line, one guy throws the INT and the other guy gets his team the go ahead TD to advance to the NFCCG for the 2nd time in his 2nd season

  • @elsonjohnson-tx7tp
    @elsonjohnson-tx7tp 5 месяцев назад

    I get it..out of the two losers,which played the best and help themselves for next year... it's Baker..😊

  • @thelowroad216
    @thelowroad216 4 месяца назад

    Burrow or Jackson is number 2

  • @DylanWolfram14
    @DylanWolfram14 5 месяцев назад +5

    Man if this Bucs team had just a decent QB they could win the Super Bowl. Oh wait, they did. It wasn’t all Tom, he just didn’t cost them any games and got lucky running into a chiefs team with ZERO starting offensive linemen

  • @movieanatomy4341
    @movieanatomy4341 5 месяцев назад +8

    Love the show, but this disappointed me
    4 teams made the title games
    49ers: full segment
    Chiefs: full segment
    Ravens: full segment
    Lions: Baker talk

    • @xcwilliams7980
      @xcwilliams7980 5 месяцев назад

      You think the 9ers segment would've been a full segment if Purdy didn't play so terrible/4th qrt comeback? The lions not being talked about is litteraly a sign of respect.

    • @Bgot7
      @Bgot7 5 месяцев назад

      It is what it is. Mahomes and Lamar are big names. 49ers and Mr “irrelevant “ is a big story as they have been to many nfc championship games and Media wants Purdy to succeed. Lions are a feel good story but unfortunately its not as “sexy” as the rest

  • @judyteal3496
    @judyteal3496 4 месяца назад

    I want the lions to win it all because nobody seems to be paying them any attention.

  • @prod.justjae9957
    @prod.justjae9957 5 месяцев назад +4

    Ravens defense getting cooked by patty next

    • @AirMcCants11s
      @AirMcCants11s 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes you're right

    • @user-kt2vd6gr7x
      @user-kt2vd6gr7x 5 месяцев назад +2

      You must be sick 😷

    • @foundationsyth9825
      @foundationsyth9825 5 месяцев назад +1

      Idk, as a chiefs fan, this Ravens team makes me super nervous. They are so good and so is Lamar. He proved that he vould step in a big games over the weekend.

  • @bisimexico5966
    @bisimexico5966 4 месяца назад

    Josh Allen is good but yall praise him too much and just set him up for failure saying he is better than Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is elite and Josh has not achieved jack ish.

  • @cm14un
    @cm14un 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nick had Bills pegged all season. Brou's right on coaching preseason but I would switch out this head coach. Wish there was some good offensive coaches available.

  • @Lionsinblack
    @Lionsinblack 4 месяца назад

    Nick control's that show he still salty the lions beat KC 😢😢
    he Ain't talking Lions.😂😂😂😂

  • @user-jh9tq6rt8d
    @user-jh9tq6rt8d 5 месяцев назад +2

    Baker proved this year that he’s not done and still deserves a place in the NFL. He’s a certified top of the mid tier QBs. For the Bucs to contend, the run game and the defense would have to be outstanding. All that being said Baker has played excellent this year.

  • @kingmeup21
    @kingmeup21 4 месяца назад

    I said this before the season and it stands more true than ever. Josh Allen is overhyped. His greatest accomplishment and only accolade is the Madden cover. He has no awards, statistics, or victories of note. Allen is best known for being a bad MVP bet and losing to Mahomes. He isn’t this generational QB media wants to act like he is.