NA Masters EXPERT Sniffs Out An OVERDUE IMBALANCE! | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- You know how the Navy Seals are portrayed as the best military branch of the world? It actually is the same with NA Masters players in Starcraft 2. With the only exception, that they do it themselves and they actually are neither skilled nor scary at all. But still this NA Masters EXPERT has identified an imbalance. Can I even contradict? Smash like and find out!
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Please do not ask me, what happened with the trade info panels... It somehow swapped the font for it, which does not make ANY sense - heck - it should not even be possible, since they use the same template as the other panels, but here we are. So I had to choose between no episode today, or publish it like this. Hope you guys don't mind the messed up formatting... Enjoy!
Nobody cares. Dope content is dope content :*
@@Rooachie agreed
what happened with the trade info panels ooga booga
Chaos is natural in this series. So nothing out of the ordinary really
I have to be honest, but I didn't even notice the different font
“Harstem I can’t use my void rays to scout. I was only able to fly right into the main, kill 4 overlords, kill a queen, kill some drones, attack a spawning pool, fly to the 4th, attack an extractor, kill more drones, and then after like a full minute BOOM 7 queens are just right there”
*preparing suck stamp*
He got 5 overlords, btw ;)
@@xitaris5981 coud have gotten more lol.
I enjoy Harstem getting fact checked within his own video.
just lmao
This is essentially a editor who's not only a professional editor, but also knows and cares about SC2 and the channel both.
Hamster best editor
What else would I be here for? Supporting Harstem? That's weak! Facts and truth is all that matters!!
Lol 😂
@@hamster_designs with style.
I like how Harstem is roasting the protoss while Hamster is roasting the zerg. 😂
No one can hide from the dream team 😎
Haha, thanks for taking my case Captain! Was a blast hearing that perhaps it wasn't balance after all, but rather the friends we made along the way. Definitely made a huge mistake in that Lurker engagement, though sadly I was looking at it the whole time.
it was a cool game, you played well, keep it up :)
@OreO no lurker are friends, they just want to hug ground units
Lucky you, you go a free analysis from a professional.
@@PenguinIceDelta they want to hug with spikes! :)
@OreO These Lurkers had no Missile upgrades until almost the very end of the game. They ended with only +1..
40 minute videos and the first 10 are the imba form, instant classic.
…I hate how ppl like you talk.
It’s just a detailed form someone put effort into.
@@mareksicinski3726 lol, no
@@mareksicinski3726 🤡
Im gonna have to make a correction here, Frodo also definitely walked through a vision tower, that looked straight at him, but somehow it didn't get registered. If it worked for Frodo it mightve worked for Probeius too
Absolutely correct. Frodo walked right by the Xel naga and into grandmaster
it might work.. but is it the best move?
9:56 Afaik 'double bagging' is when you yourself wear a paper bag over your head just in case hers falls off when doing the business
It has multiple meanings apparently ^^
Yep, butterface 😅
When she is the special kind of girl that is free for all, you double up the protection.
@@danielgloyd4529 so basically… when you double bag… you double rubber
double tbag
This was one of the best ones. The whole army running into 5 lurkers and losing 50 supply for a lurker and 5 lings... Fucking hell. Love it. No one is free from mistakes even at masters. This series is so humbling..
Lurkers are just insane at all MMR ranges
15:20 Harstem making me feel old. When I was a kid, I had a Gameboy (not Color, not Advanced, not Pocket...the OG GameBoy). Much, much later, I got Pokemon Red & Blue when they came out. I started on Tetris and Super Mario Bros.
Funny story. We first got it when we were on a road trip. My Dad had my Mom drive, so that he could "show me how to play." This is what my Mom hears from me. "Can I play?....Can I play now?.... MOOOM! Dad won't let me play!"
True Gamer Dad!
Certified DAD moment
Okay but at 32:52 when he loses 43 probes in an instant
He lined it up perfectly for the lurkers... that money shot
What's most baffling to me is the submitter complaining that it's "impossible" to scout whether the Zerg is continuing the roach all-in or switching to eco... with two void rays within scan range of an undefended fourth that could have answered that question by just drifting an inch to the southwest.
I'm not sure if this is a bad play, but if I were the Protoss & saw 14 Hatch & a faster than usual Pool (went down at 0:55 instead of 1:15) I would reactively make a Zealot while the Cyber Core is building. This would allow me to have something blocking the wall so that lings couldn't get in (lings coming 20 seconds earlier than a normal Hatch first, closer to a Pool first time) & then I would get an Adept that could shade in to scout to see if it's fast Bane Nest, Roach Warren, Lair (Nydus?) or speed & then I'd cancel the shade & walk home & play based on my scout. Sure a Zealot cost 100 minerals, but that's a smaller investment than going Hatch, gas & Pool all before overlord, making lings sooner instead of those larvae on drones.
I think I'd go Stargate + a Void either way, but if Nydus keep making Voids & don't let overlords near the base. If Bane Bust get a Sentry & he already had the double wall set-up, save energy for super battery. If Roaches get Stalkers as the Gateway choice. If speedling flood get Adepts as the Gateway choice. There is so much scouting/decision making this guy could have done even before the Void Ray(s) were out.
As a side note, it's not always "bad" to be boring. If you stop a Roach/Rav push off of a worse than usual economy (for the Zerg) just add a 2nd Stargate & mass Voids & then go into either Skytoss or go into ground after a double Void opening, it'll play out even better than usual as Zerg took a late 3rd (so triple Queen production will come online later) & Zerg invested in an early Roach Warren & failed the attack. A double Void opening could probably kill both the 3rd & 4th base of the Zerg & any Queens trying to stop it, then the game would be a Protoss taking a 3rd base before the Zerg gets a 3rd up, & those Voids with map control could scout anything, kill overlords, harass, be recalled to defend, etc.
@@richardgallimore5976 who asked
Around 34:40, I feel like if you don’t pay attention to your army for 30 seconds that’s one thing, but the game tells you when a nuke is used too, so that’s something else entirely.
I'm so surprised Harstem read this whole intro without losing his shit
i love how harstem just silently watches 43 probes explode at 32:54
How did you miss the Lemming walk of the probes at 32:45? Watch the minimap (12 o'clock base) and the worker counter
59 to 16 workers with just 2 lukers LOL
25:19 that lurker attacked it's bretherin three times before killing it. it wasn't friendly fire, it was indeed a missclick that went undetected.
“And before you know it they invade another country again” lmao 💀
i was laughing so fucking hard when he said that
@@pshycho247 same ^^
I like how the trade info panels are now in times new roman, makes this series feel more posh
Ironically the directional antenna was discovered in 1926 by Hidetsugu Yagi. Despite this the British actually were the first to employ the system in a military context. When the Japanese captured British radar technicians in the Battle of Singapore they questioned the technician as to what the "Yagi" antenna was. Under interrogation they revealed that "Yagi" was the name of the Japanese who invented the antenna, so it seems inventing the technology isn't enough. You also have to use the technology.
early military adoption of radio is so fascinating. you'd think that such a sophisticated and groundbreaking technology would be something that would be developed in secret labs and rolled out en masse, but it was the opposite with drafted radio enthusiasts making battlefield radios from bits of scrap and usage slowly climbing up the ladder by discerning commanders.
I made a few mistakes that taught me what mistakes not to make. This guy played random, so i suppose he doesn't know toss well.
If you see that many mutas and you tech into anion crystals, it's very wise to spend the 150/150 on a 2nd stargate, because it doubles your production and keeps you a lot more flexible, for little more than the cost of a single phoenix. If opponent techs heavily into lurkers, 2nd robo facility should come in handy. If opponent techs into roaches heavily and catches you by surprise, a 2nd robo also can save your life. Buildings really aren't very expensive compared to units, so they're rarely a waste.
Ik this is very late but he kinda did a lot of stupid stuff
Why go pheonixes when your already committing to a mass ground army and have a million dt you can just morph into archons. Maybe he doesn’t know archons have aoe?
Plenty of things went wrong
@@Name-ru1kt Archons are awful vs mutas, because they're too slow and they tend to attack the mutas at the corner of the cluster, minimising the AoE. If a muta-player plays well, you need 2 archons + shield battery on every base, otherwise they won't be able to do anything vs mutas. Blink stalkers are okay vs mutas but not that amazing either because they tend to split their fire too much.
Phoenixes without range are very micro-intensive vs muta but are good, with range are insane. There's little that hardcounters as much as ranged phoenix vs muta. I guess colossi vs zerglings counters similarly well.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu ironically he could of afforded that. But I kinda doubt that this person could magic box archons especially when your sending zealots to their bases.
What is more likely what will happen is the zerg will run all the mutalisk in a big bunch and the archon will hit every single one. Some mutalisk almost always die when they try to go in against blink stalker.
Also archons do work super super well. Mutalisk cost 100 minerals 100 gas. Archons cost two dt which is a total of 250 minerals 50 gas. Even if the archon gets two mutalisk kills then its a good trade. By the time it dies warped in stalkers or ones made already will arrive. And the muta might kill some workers but will lose even more doing so
Interesting game. I too wouldn't believe it's possible to lose a game when you kill like 120+ drones. But tbh even Terran would "remax" on workers pretty fast on 6 bases + iron bank...
6 base Terran! Man if Terran gets to six bases and you’re a Zerg you failed the Zerg race 😂
Harstem, do you mean Probeius' zealot run-by was like Frodo keeping Merry and Pippin around, when he entered Mordor?
Putting up a fire so they are seen by the Nazgul, throwing stones at the water so they are attacked by a Kraken, Pippin pushing the skeleton over the edge so they are attacked by the orcs.
9:57 Urban Dictionary has a slightly different definition for 'Double-Bagger', Harstem.
Harstem is both so savage and wholesome in this video lmao
32:52 In 4 seconds, the Toss goes from 59 to 18 workers. XD Line 'em up!
Why you gotta do that to yeast at 25:25 hamster my man did nothing to you
Ahhh... My mouse must have slipped... Unlucky :/
0:22 ''''ZERGs''' 'beloved F2 Key!?? '''''''''ZERGS''''''''-F2 KEY???? DID he really just fucking say that!?? as a protoss!!!???? I am gonna smash my computer OMGWTF!!!!
Right, says the guy with shield batteries and instant warp in which makes F2ing so much more feasible while defending because if the Protoss F2s his defending units he can warn in new ones to defend or use a super battery. Zerg has to be more careful with F2 because they need to leave defensive units or they're guaranteed to lose a base to a drop.
I loved the instant replay of the lurker killing his lurker buddy :D 25:26
This was actually an entertaining game to watch even with no trash talking commentary. Well played to both players I say.
I didn’t realize that Frodo decided to go for a run by at the end of the early game (fellowship), and it hit so late Sauron wasn’t ready
This game makes me think of my matches...except I have very little experience, and run an APM of around 65-70..in diamond. Every match is me blundering my way into a win or a loss
"Just invent RADAR, it's not that hard." - Harstem 2021
Poor Harstem, getting called out by Hamster for mixing up radar and sonar XD
I’m pretty sure I’ve played this dude on ladder b4, and he always plays some off meta troll style. Glad he’s finally getting roasted a bit for all our suffering thanks captain!
Thing is this guy is playing random race... So he might not be that good at macro on toss... But how the heck do you forget to rebuild the core it's basically the most important tech building. Few orcals would've helped at a point. -.-
How is *Corp a master??
8:30 Can't be bothered to focusfire and target the most damaged unit, an endemic problem throughout.
10:35 What is that voidray movement?? Can't be bothered to harass front base, maybe fly into main and harass. Doing so is low risk because recall is a thing.
12:48 Finally flies into main, kills 5 overlords and a queen for free! (zerg has no spores, mineral line also vulnerable)
14:58 Instead of addressing the muta threat with continuous phoenix production (get 2nd stargate?), spends a minute microing DTs under overseers.
28:02 Endemic lack of vision leads to 42 supply throw. The game is over.
Recommendation:
1. Play the "mass observer" challenge - you're only allowed to attack/harass where observers *in observer mode* give vision.
2. Maybe try "damaged only" healthbar setting, will make units you should focus pop out more.
At 32:55 that lurker just instakilled 40 probes in about 3 shots.
32:49 is the moment when the toss goes longdistance mining and loses most of his workers without noticing.
i think "skeptical" sums up a good chunk of your post-intro. :D love your ramblings as usual.
"Just invent radar!"
How hard could it be?
Bats even know how to use it. xD
No, no they don't.
Toss: there is no way to scout! Zerg scout-denying is insane!
Meanwhile:
"Oracles and observes: are we joke to you?"
"4 speed-zealots in the prism: User ignores this account."
"Voidrays: Scout-denying is insane? Heh. Hold my beer".
not to mention a sentry which can make free scouting units.
@@SirCanuckelhead what do you mean free?! They cost like 50 energy!! Keepo
@@hamster_designs right? its always such a hard choice between spending 50 energy or losing the game. Toss clearly needs buff! Keepo
So have you found a personality yet or can you only communicate in memes?
@@ahall9839 angry-zealot kicks in!
"Hardstuck Masters" I never thought I would hear these two words together in my lifetime
Sick dodge by the hydra from spines of the team killing lurker in the instant replay
Lowko says "double condom approach" for double-baggers. 😀
I say double-tap. Which is a term Americans use for double barreled shotguns. I’ve also heard people say “both barrels” in reference to a kid getting absolutely clapped by his own boomerang. “Damn he really got both barrels when he threw that”
That actually was the top definition on urban dictionary Erenis, but for obvious reasons I settled for the second definition ^^
32:50 lost 43 probes in 6 seconds :D
Did the guy watch his replay before sending it in.............
13:03 Ah yes, sonar is the synonym for radar.
Found these videos and your channel recently. These are gold. Well done.
I think this man has a serious hatred of overlords. So many times overlords got targetted over drones or even a hatch.
Didn't he? When he let the 2 HP Queenrun away after he killed like 20 Drones just to focus fire the Overlords... He must have known that he could not supply block him by any chance after killing so many units xD
ive been binge watching iiiodis today and now i get a fresh episode
To be fair, Frodo was basically running around Middle Earth, offering ring to everyone who asked (except poor Boromir and Gollum). So he may have as well be screaming it out loud. :D
When @Harstem looks into the camera to issue his verdict at 39:00 I get scared. It's like Frodo looking at the Eye of Sauron.
Ironically he makes a similar metaphor in the video.
@@ekothesilent9456 *Coincidentally 🤨
@@henryviiifake8244 sarcastically ironic. I did not misuse the word nor confuse the definition.
Editing still on point!
Also the upgrades there towards the end!
32:50 59 workers
33:00 16 workers
I think part of the problem is that he's really bad at disengaging. Very frequently, his opponent had zerglings nipping at his heels and he doesn't take his best DPS unit to attack just once to deal with it. The whole army is moving and tripping over each other. Select the highest health archon or immortal, move it to the front, blast some lings. Or if you're going to lose the unit anyway, have it stand its ground and take some units down with it rather than losing it for free.
EDIT: OK, I was too harsh at first. He actually gets better about this later in the game. 34:52 is proof.
I am grateful for Harstem and the is it imba or do I suck series, as a protoss, it is nice that I am finally learning how to read!
protos have the best scouting unit in the game... im always finding perv scouts in my base... try scouting with zerg, you either throw an overlord or ling to his death, but the creep vision is where zerg can dominate map control.
For Protoss players from Zerg player, there's one scouting tool that is underutilized. "Hallucination Phoenix".. just mana and speedy scout that doesn't even cost army supply for you.
lol this guy lets zerg double expand after failing an all-in and this calls it imba, he had 2 void rays on zergs side of the map sniping overlords and turns around for absolutely no reason at all. Also him trying to call out protoss for having bad scouting? Bruh you can get practically guaranteed scouting intel with hallucinated phoenix + obs. Zerg has to sacrifice an overlord to scout terran or protoss and if the other player is being active about denying scouting they likely won't see too much of value. He also didn't get archons or build the fleet beacon for phoenix range as the DTs were distracting zerg, missed out on sniping one of the hatcherys with his stalker runby around 17:30, he could've recalled them right before the mutas came back and taken a great trade.
Frodo did say "hey here i am" by using the ring fyi
"All road lead to rome except the one you chose which led to atlantis"- Now thats commedy.
A dangerous player is an American Masters. These 2 in combination are dangerous. They have the belief they understand then they invade another country. Very funny and very true (comming from a brit which may seem hypercritical)!
The difference between us and the Americans is that, albeit after centuries, we've finally realised we can't be doing that anymore... the Yanks _believe they still can._
32:53 the workers evaporated, rofl.
I love how you take his case! 🤣. Sometimes tough learning is the best way.
dat instant replay killed me just like that lurker killed his buddy
Harstem: You just suck. And that's the hard reality. I am sorry.
Me: No, you're not
Has Harstem ever found an actual IMBA form that he agreed with and found valid?
You should check out the episode where Reynor took over the show.
@@henryviiifake8244 I saw that one, but it seemed more like a comedy skit than an actual "Yea, this actually seems IMBA." Plus, that was Reynor, and not Harstem. XD
There was an episode about skytoss, and he agreed that it was tough to play against it, but ultimately the guy still made mistakes. I think it was a ZvP, from way back in the days. No editing, no face cam, and when Harstem was still whispering in his videos
I feel it so much when Harstem talked about saving money for a Gameboy Color with Pokemon Silver
What is Harstem's superpower? Giving ridiculous analogies with a straight face. Brilliant.
Surprised you didnt comment about how all his nexus's had Full Energy
The part where Harstem has to catch himself looking at the wall 🤣
Do people submit here just so you can trash them? Is this like the starcraft version of r/RoastMe on reddit?
For some it is, but some people seem rather serious, so you never know ^^
Harstem with Grandmaster players: "Precious, oh so precious."
Harstem with everyone else: "YOU F***ING DONKEY!"
Well a lot of them are his friends and even if they're not they are his peers and being rude to them might have repercussions.
You DONUT!! Book of ramsey
Most IODIS replay submitters seem to be bad anyway, so he has to hold nothing back.
26:26 Bio Terran players will say that Zealots before the 8 damage charge nerf are imba. They still think that they are imba lol
Thanks for explaining that he probably just pushed down the d button. I wouldn't have known otherwise!!
I have a good fake story for Harstem. During the cold war the American space program spent a million dollars to invent a pen that would write in space. And the Russians used a pencil.
I died multiple times to fake 3 hatches, feeling safe but there was no worker production, just pulled workers from the main/second base. This is something that I learned from. Just scouting for the second and third base isn't enough to be sure there is no rush ^^
Greetings Maik :)
Omg the ending recap was beautiful. You broke him down like a god damn disintegration ray xD
I actually couldn't stop laughing at those analogies.
When he said 200k subscribers. I was like YAY! he has grown very fast lately and he deserves it, but then 130k away..... I laughed and was also just a little bit sad.
Ik lag echt dubbel toen je zei the road you took led to Atlantis. Goeie.
well it is actually true. bats don't use radar, they use sonar. while the premise is similar the process is different.
13:24 the info line says “Shottish physicist.” I’m assuming it meant Scottish?😂
I get double bagged all the time. I tried telling the guys I don't like tea but they won't listen...
he didn't build enough stargates.... after seeing all the mutas
Let's all keep in mind that those Lurkers had zero attack upgrades for most of the game and only got +1 near the end :P
25:27 Admazing catch and funny as F.
that american bit had me rolling
oh, yeast, played with him before, tricky little guy
Hello .. I have the ring! I nearly pissed myself laughing
Harstem I’m an American and I just wanted to say your stories...made me LOL...keep it up bud!
What jumped out to me in the complaint form, were all the decisions he made because he feared a ling flood, in all stages of the game. Besides the scouting issues they may have, I'm going to guess they're not that good with the sim city / sentry shields / adept warp-ins to defend against these. Could be a good thing to work on!
Zets, immortals and voids were always the most ultimate counter in SC2 when I played in top european ranks. That still definitely sounds like the best strat for early zerg. That toss player needs a lot of work.
i freaking FELL OF MY CHAIR At 25:25
The reason the first void was so late is because the stargate was started late. Toss went warpgate and stalker before dropping gas on the stargate. If he had just done the normal sg timing, he would have been fine.
Help me, step-ling, I'm stuck!
11:48 got me. Well played.
Finally not the 3 parts of what he did right or wrong
WOW watch the protoss's worker count drop at 32:53 : 43 workers in 5 seconds