This game does not qualify as a GOTY contender. * First 10m nothing happens. * Several terrible fights in a row. * Waste 26 Gateways. * No creativity or thought in the unit compositions. * Throwing away a 40-1 probe lead.
I can just imagine the IODIS form for this one. "Dear Captain. I had 26 gateways and I was outmining my opponent the entire game. Sure, I took some bad fights, but I ended up being ahead in bases, economy, and army supply. But it didn't matter. My opponent just walked in with a bunch of marauders and a single liberator and won the game. So my question is: Are Terran toes imba or do I sck?"
This is cheeky little clickbait à la Lowko. 20 minutes nothing happens. Interesting end. A real Game of the year need to be exciting and action packed from start to finish
The unit designs are just more on Terran favor overall because balance councils are Terran fans. Think if the design switch, who will be op: -design liberator bullet as slow as disruptor easily dodgeable, and make disruptor bullet instant hit -marine has melee range and zealot hit both air and ground with 6 range -marauder range becomes 4, their bullet slow has cooldown -siege tank got low single shot damage or low dps same as tempest, bonus damage not on units but building, as compared to tempest design hit hard as siege tank, can be protected by cheap 50 mineral with 17 dps. Then you'll see who is op 😊
@@fesnenglasneng Are... are you complaining about the balance of units that have been in the game for over 15 years? And you actually don't think there's even a chance that maybe you're reaching a little? Like, at all? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of a lot of decisions made with the units from LotV, but those are more about what I think is *annoying* rather than objective strength. I'm sure if you really tried, you could isolate metrics on 4 sets of units that switching them would make any faction overpowered.
Favorite moment was last year when Reynor moved an overlord to scout a brand new base ByuN built, then he watched ByuN drop 24 mules all at once. Reynor instantly gg'd.
@@santrichuumonster Lol you really don't get it, do you? You're speaking from a position of knowing more than the players did, saying "should have done this" like everyone on YT does. Nobody seems to understand how a lack of maphack makes these kinds of decisions harder. That being said, what insecurity would they even be projecting? That they're afraid of thinking they know better than a professional player? Use your brain a little if you're gonna accuse someone of projecting lmfao
@@impishlyit9780 I didn't say "the pro should have done this or should have done that", if you can read I said it would have been big which implies it would be a great move for the pro, I didn't say hes stupid for not doing it I said if he did it then it would be a good move, please read properly next time.
They do good damage that is instantly healed by the mobile healing batteries. Early game Terran units are strong throughout the game and gatway units are not.
@@kugeltmgI find it so weird when terrans nonstop nagged about shield batteries but they have a medicav for each marine and can drop mules on their mech units for instant repair Its like okay fine protoss units have more hp than everyone else so their hp damage is permanent. But we have shields that can be replenished quickly using a shield battery, sounds fair right? Nope lol Ghosts remove not only shields, but also remove the ability to use replenish shields via battery AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO CAST BATTERY OVERCHARGE with the same, no research required, spam able and instant spell
@@LegionSC2 I find it so weird when Protoss players non stop nag about Terran having easily spammable spells when all they need to do for 80% of the game is queue probes and press one rapid fire hotkey on their keybaord to spam warpins while Terran has 20 different things on the production tab at all times.
Protoss players continue being weirdly allergic to any higher tech options. The exception being the disruptor, which there's a gambling like addiction to
@@ambion19 Because all their other high tech units kinda suck. Except for high templar. The others are too expensive and cost too much supply compared to bio with ghosts
Spoiler: Gumiho deserved the win entirely, ShoWTimE played like shit, it was painful to watch. Imagine severly outmining your opponent for the entirety of the game and still losing. What a throw.
There were some questionable plays on both sides, it was kind of painful to watch in places - idk if the players were tired or something? But as you say they definitely had the bigger advantage and managed to throw it all away.
geez, gumiho having 1k gas but using 3scans instead of a single raven to deal with the observers. sometimes it feels like the unit is vetoed instead of a map ;)
Was this a funday Monday game or something? How did Gumiho not build more supply depots, mules, SCVs at the end of the game? ShowTime also didn't seem interested in rebuilding pylons to utilize his 40 probe advantage. Very odd.
How!!??? Is it Gumiho that was godly or Showtime play poorly ? How can you lose when you have a 40worker lead during several minute!!?? As it was said many time...maybe the army composition was the keys...maybe a dark shrine on the top of 26gateway would have been the solution.
The unit designs are just more on Terran favor overall because balance councils are Terran fans. Think if the design switch, who will be op: -design liberator bullet as slow as disruptor easily dodgeable, and make disruptor bullet instant hit -marine has melee range and zealot hit both air and ground with 6 range -marine got 17 dps and move faster witm stim, try switch the dps to zealot or try make zealot ability to invincible by losing some portion of its health same as stim -marauder range becomes 4, their bullet slow has cooldown, or switch zealot run to no cooldown, stalker blink disable marauder/marine ability like marauder disable blink -siege tank got low single shot damage or low dps same as tempest, bonus damage not on units but building, as compared to tempest design hit hard as siege tank, can be protected by cheap 50 mineral with 17 dps. -ghost 4 powerful ability vs 1 useful templar. Try switch and make templar can cloak, can snipe, has emp, has anti armor spell, while ghost can only feedback and storm (can always be dodge, not insta dmg, dmg slow over time) Then you'll see who is op 😊
The correct plural of nexus is nexuses, or alternatively nexus. Correct and accepted: One nexus. Multiple nexuses. Multiple nexus. Incorrect: Multiple nexi. This stems from the latin etymology of the word "nexus", as it is different than the word "cactus" for instance, since it is a fourth, and not second, declension noun. (This is much more rare, which is why there is a common misunderstanding)
So in order for Showtime to actually throw the game he decides to shove into a PF (with his entire army LOL) 15:52 with 20 less army supply, all the zealots go for the PF which is being repaired, he obviously get absolutely demolished, wastes all his novas to kill off the PF while retreating (LOL?) and then obviously gets absolutely demolished, oh ye btw he also warps in 1 million zealots and attack moves them into mass liberation zones, also does not understand that high templars would just win the game. Showtime, Sir you made me sick to my stomach.
you kept saying showtime was making bad trades.. he wasnt really though. he was heavily denying his opponent minerals. its actually smart if you have the ability to back your army up really quick.. like having 25+ gateways lol. if he can keep denying those forward bases he can win by attrition.
This is why I hate playing VS Terran. Their units are so deadly that they can come back from extreme deficit. Playing vs them must be 100% perfect because they do so much damage.
i think losing your pinky toe is worse cause they're the furthest to the side, so you're more susceptible to falling in that direction. losing your big toes wouldn't be so bad balance-wise cause they're more centralized(?), kinda like how taking out the center piece in jenga doesn't destabilize the tower that much why am i still thinking about this
Talk about major brain fart on both sides. Why didn't gumiho fly his cc to a new base over a 10 minute period? and how you lose as showtime while out mining your opponent for 10 mins is crazy.
these throwing money fights into the toilet in the endgame to use these 38 gateways and in the final 5 minutes, every single unit mattered. .. showtime should have built 1 void ray, sent it on attack move and waited for Gumiho's GG. finally, the void ray would have had a purpose.
it was close, it was an alright game. but my goodness watching passive pros play meta build orders for 15 minutes each too scared to attack the other... zzzzzz
Showtime had multiple god awful, totally avoidable fights and trades. Some were flat out stupid, especially considering the gate count after a certain point. Strange plays from a great player
Showtime could have won if he maked storms instead of like 8 disruptors just to kill 2 marauders and his own zealots. Since they nerfed disruptors they're just useless most of the times.
If you need more than 100 minerals per unit you need at least an income of 2600 minerals, sadly zealots and stalkers just suck against MMM + ghost so it was the most stupid unit composition ever. You just can't use zealots agains marauders, it's in the tutorial dude.
I'm not saying it was a throw, but something seemed off, there were lots of painful decisions all around. Were the players tired or was it the end of a long series? It was honestly hard to watch in places.
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It was easier to know how long units took to make before Legacy of the Void. Marines 25 in-game seconds, marauders 30. Now everything is divided by 1.4x whichmakes all the numbers weird and hard to remember
I wish the person who invented stim pack was never born... just like I wish the person who invented whirlwind in Diablo 2 was never born. But... that's how games are developed. You need mad 'skills' (wink-wink) to have a single ability that can win anything, anytime, with any race, any built, regardless of unit composition and player strategy. It's just like a win button for goons. But, hey!.. who doesn't like drugs? Kids, remember, don't do drugs... unless they're in a computer game and they're named 'stimulation package'. 🤣 Terran is such a joke... just like the barb in D2, or demon hunter in D3, with that brain-dead whirlwind non-sense. 😆
@@bwzarchive708 My point, exactly! Do you remember 5 or 6 years ago when one of the 1st versions of AI played against Mana? Why do you think the AI chose to play blink stalkers in every single game? Well, because blink stalkers are, by far, the best unit in the entire game, not even remotely close to anything else. Problem is - you need at least 3k APM to play it well, and then no one has a chance against them. So, because they cannot be played well by humans, the second best thing is stim pack bio + medivac. You can handle it at 300-500 APM np, and you have a unit that costs 50 minerals capable to chew on anything in record time, due to insane attack speed. Why? Because Blizz sais so... that's why! Imagine zerglings having wings and being able to do plunge attacks like the locusts from swarm hosts. Imagine zealots pulling up a gun from their pants and shooting like Arnold in Predator all of a sudden. That's how ridiculous stim pack/medivac style is. Just for fun, go ask any terran player from the top 10 terran players... like Maru, Clem, whatever.. [insert name here] to actually play in a big $$$ tournament without stim pack/medivac, and see if any of them knows how to play without that crappy overpowered insanely imbalanced style. Ofc they all know how to play mech, and they also know how to play bio without stim pack and medivac, but why would any of them not use the 'one win button', as long as Blizz built one there for them? 🤣 Oh, and also, just think of this as a balance: zerg has 2 air units. Two!! They didn't even put in the game the suicidal crows from Broodwar (forgot their name); which would've made total sense, considering zerg has suicidal ground unit, but no kamikaze air unit anymore. And while zerg has 2 air units (from which one morphs into the worst thing computer games have ever seen), terran has medivac, raven, viking, liberators, banshee, and battlecruisers, so 6, and toss has oracle, phoenix, void ray, tempest, and carriers, so 5. Pretty much balanced, right? 5/6/2. What a joke... 🤢 And then you watch vids posted by ppl like our host here (I already hear the random donkey laughing in the background), and you facepalm yourself to death when you see that the only viable and successful thing a terran can do (even in a 30+ min game) is to build first 2 units that he can create: marrine and marauder, put some healing on top of them, and roll out a win every time, because no matter what you do, when those bad boys overdose on their lysergic acid diethylamide, oh boy!... you gotta have your shitting pants prepared... 😅
@@nilatac3273terrans are an absolute joke when it comes to skills ive come to realise. They make you believe that they can hold on lost games and make a come back trough sheer skill and grit but that's literally a lie. This entire race is nothing but "unit here on siege mode and forget about it" units. Libs, tanks, mines, PF + turrets. Not to mention every single unit in the terran arsenal including the scv in somehow insanely good at killing z and p workers (specifically p). No seriously think about it. Name 1 unit that the terran has that doesn't clear probe lines in 2 sec flat. If terran were to ever to balanced, these whining soybois would literally never win anything
@@nilatac3273 Starcraft 1 originally had marines with 40 hp and no way to heal them. This made bio completely non-viable in every matchup. They need to have healing. And without stim they would straight up lose to any unit that can move faster or has more range, which is most units in the game. You can type a nice essay but yuo dont understand this game at all.
@@TheSuperappelflap 'they need to have healing'? 🤣 Wow! So, a unit that wasn't flawless, had to be made flawless. Ok, got it. Now I see the idea... 😉 Every unit in this game has its uses, for diff types of gameplay strategy. The marine/marauder/stimpack/medivac is the only type of unit combo that is used by all good terran players to win every time there's a big $$$ tournament. You, obviously understanding the game (unlike me), have any argument why? Is it because none of the top 10/20 terran players knows how to play with other units? 😆 Or, maybe, just maybe, because it's a safe bet to go bio and win easily, as long as no other unit can even touch how good stimpack/medivac is? There's no other unit in the entire game that can win vs any unit. None! Only blink stalkers can do it, but good luck reaching 3-5k APM. Other than that, every unit has its own nemesis, except junkie marines with healing and taxi over their head. Just look at this replay that Harstem posted. Toss would win 100% of the time, if it was army vs army. If you add healing, is over. If you add healing & stimpack is not only over, but also embarrassing. Why would this look logical to SC2 players? Does it look fair and logical to you? Toss had bigger army, and better army, not only tier 1 units. But, because of healing and irrational attack speed, toss had no chance. Wow! Such a fair and logical developlemt of actions. So much balance... 🤪 Show me a tournament where a terran player won without stimpack/medivac in the last 15 years, and I'll agree that I don't understand the game at all. Until then, let's all enjoy how terran wins with marines no matter what you throw against them. Much love! ❤
25:17 watch: Gumio is supply blocked at 70/71 he completes 2 marauders that finish on the production tab. His supply never changes then well still theoretically kept he builds another one! Did anyone else seethis? How?
Whoever designed the Terran race in sc2 was not right in the head. Amazing that anyone would believe the ridiculous dps of bio is in any way balanced, not to mention the abusive siege units of tank and liberator.
They designed bio thinking the downside was the hp (total hp and stim eating away a chuck from it) but the sheer amount of bio units and medivacs that heal them almost always ensure they win fights with a couple stim engagements anyways. And even if they don't terrans are pumping out marines are marauders at retarded rates from their 2 trillion raxs There is no downside to using stim in actuality (outside of those 2 times medivacs ran out of these in all pro games last year... and now they added a energy regen upgrade for them lol)
Storms. Colossus. Actually flanking the bio all with zealots, increasing damage area AND denying MM retreat speed. Showtime had to work hard to throw this match like that, but he managed
This game does not qualify as a GOTY contender.
* First 10m nothing happens.
* Several terrible fights in a row.
* Waste 26 Gateways.
* No creativity or thought in the unit compositions.
* Throwing away a 40-1 probe lead.
First 10 minutes were the best part of this cast
LOLOLOL
I disagree a lot.
Depends on how you are measuring goty.
How many bananas did this game lose?
NONE.
Ihate losing bananas. Goated.
Yeah, some parts were hard to watch.
I can just imagine the IODIS form for this one. "Dear Captain. I had 26 gateways and I was outmining my opponent the entire game. Sure, I took some bad fights, but I ended up being ahead in bases, economy, and army supply. But it didn't matter. My opponent just walked in with a bunch of marauders and a single liberator and won the game. So my question is: Are Terran toes imba or do I sck?"
Lmao pressing one key on his keyboard and making a voidray would win him the game
This is cheeky little clickbait à la Lowko. 20 minutes nothing happens. Interesting end. A real Game of the year need to be exciting and action packed from start to finish
The last fight had some sick micro and a lot of tension, but I agree most of the game felt like a series of blunders from both players.
Warning toss players getting triggered from this replay.
Damn I love Harstem's random 10 minute tangents so much.
The StarCraft is just background noise at this point
guy doesn't know about the theory of toes
Is it imbalanced, or do I suck toes?
Showtime had brain damage during this battle, no imba.
Many chances to tech up that wasnt used
It's the big toe you can't balance without. Harstem, people are coming here for anatomy facts and you're sending them home with false information :(
I was utterly shocked by the inaccuracy in his provided information, I'm not sure I can handle this anymore.
Thanks
I love it when the Protoss decides to play Zerg :D
I threw wave after wave of zerglins, roach hydra, and a lone mutalisk late game into tank/lib/ghost/planetary and I just dont know what went wrong
If Showtime won the game with a single void ray then yeah that would have been the goty
this game shows what shit disruptors are.
Bro, I'd like to see you dodge disruptor shots like gumiho.
Disruptors are only OP when Kevin de Koning is using them.
Yeah, disruptors are garbage. Have one for crowd control, psi storm for the win
The unit designs are just more on Terran favor overall because balance councils are Terran fans. Think if the design switch, who will be op:
-design liberator bullet as slow as disruptor easily dodgeable, and make disruptor bullet instant hit
-marine has melee range and zealot hit both air and ground with 6 range
-marauder range becomes 4, their bullet slow has cooldown
-siege tank got low single shot damage or low dps same as tempest, bonus damage not on units but building, as compared to tempest design hit hard as siege tank, can be protected by cheap 50 mineral with 17 dps.
Then you'll see who is op 😊
@@fesnenglasneng Are... are you complaining about the balance of units that have been in the game for over 15 years? And you actually don't think there's even a chance that maybe you're reaching a little? Like, at all? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of a lot of decisions made with the units from LotV, but those are more about what I think is *annoying* rather than objective strength. I'm sure if you really tried, you could isolate metrics on 4 sets of units that switching them would make any faction overpowered.
Favorite moment was last year when Reynor moved an overlord to scout a brand new base ByuN built, then he watched ByuN drop 24 mules all at once. Reynor instantly gg'd.
1 scout to know your opponent only has 1 scv would have been big
Imagine walking up and blinking like, 2 stalkers into the main. There was 1 scv and one marine in production.
Professional utube sc2 players in comment section, fearless backseating..
@@shikore22 Saying the obvious basic things is now considered "professional utube sc2 players" lmao stop projecting to other people your insecurities.
@@santrichuumonster Lol you really don't get it, do you? You're speaking from a position of knowing more than the players did, saying "should have done this" like everyone on YT does. Nobody seems to understand how a lack of maphack makes these kinds of decisions harder. That being said, what insecurity would they even be projecting? That they're afraid of thinking they know better than a professional player? Use your brain a little if you're gonna accuse someone of projecting lmfao
@@impishlyit9780 I didn't say "the pro should have done this or should have done that", if you can read I said it would have been big which implies it would be a great move for the pro, I didn't say hes stupid for not doing it I said if he did it then it would be a good move, please read properly next time.
showtime thinking protoss units do damage XD
They do good damage that is instantly healed by the mobile healing batteries. Early game Terran units are strong throughout the game and gatway units are not.
@@kugeltmgI find it so weird when terrans nonstop nagged about shield batteries but they have a medicav for each marine and can drop mules on their mech units for instant repair
Its like okay fine protoss units have more hp than everyone else so their hp damage is permanent. But we have shields that can be replenished quickly using a shield battery, sounds fair right? Nope lol
Ghosts remove not only shields, but also remove the ability to use replenish shields via battery AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO CAST BATTERY OVERCHARGE with the same, no research required, spam able and instant spell
Gumiho played better, Showtime earned the L
@@LegionSC2 I find it so weird when Protoss players non stop nag about Terran having easily spammable spells when all they need to do for 80% of the game is queue probes and press one rapid fire hotkey on their keybaord to spam warpins while Terran has 20 different things on the production tab at all times.
Showtime: goes gateway man
Harstem: GOTY! LISAN AL GAIB! AS WRITTEN!
He said “what many people are calling goty”
Terran broken as always
ngl, I learnt a lot about balance in this cast: both for SC2 and toes.
Live by the gateway, die by the gateway
Protoss players continue being weirdly allergic to any higher tech options. The exception being the disruptor, which there's a gambling like addiction to
@@ambion19 Because all their other high tech units kinda suck. Except for high templar. The others are too expensive and cost too much supply compared to bio with ghosts
@@TheSuperappelflap they're expensive, so is throwing dozens of zealots and stalkers into a tier 3 kill box.
@@TheSuperappelflap they're expensive, so is throwing dozens of zealots and stalkers into a tier 3 kill box.
@@ambion19 yes I'm not trying to defend those plays lol. Just saying immortals and colossus or air units weren't going to help either
You could make a cheesy man alive episode… try to get to 50 gates and warp in with prisims in their bases
Spoiler:
Gumiho deserved the win entirely, ShoWTimE played like shit, it was painful to watch. Imagine severly outmining your opponent for the entirety of the game and still losing. What a throw.
There were some questionable plays on both sides, it was kind of painful to watch in places - idk if the players were tired or something? But as you say they definitely had the bigger advantage and managed to throw it all away.
geez, gumiho having 1k gas but using 3scans instead of a single raven to deal with the observers. sometimes it feels like the unit is vetoed instead of a map ;)
Lol, your comedic timing is really becoming top notch. I actually laughed out loud more than once.
Weird game of the year rather than game of the year
i'm lactose intolerant bc people w 8 or less toes make me sick
Queeeee mierrrrdaaaa jodaaa
Was this a funday Monday game or something? How did Gumiho not build more supply depots, mules, SCVs at the end of the game? ShowTime also didn't seem interested in rebuilding pylons to utilize his 40 probe advantage. Very odd.
More toe content plz
How!!??? Is it Gumiho that was godly or Showtime play poorly ? How can you lose when you have a 40worker lead during several minute!!?? As it was said many time...maybe the army composition was the keys...maybe a dark shrine on the top of 26gateway would have been the solution.
The unit designs are just more on Terran favor overall because balance councils are Terran fans. Think if the design switch, who will be op:
-design liberator bullet as slow as disruptor easily dodgeable, and make disruptor bullet instant hit
-marine has melee range and zealot hit both air and ground with 6 range
-marine got 17 dps and move faster witm stim, try switch the dps to zealot or try make zealot ability to invincible by losing some portion of its health same as stim
-marauder range becomes 4, their bullet slow has cooldown, or switch zealot run to no cooldown, stalker blink disable marauder/marine ability like marauder disable blink
-siege tank got low single shot damage or low dps same as tempest, bonus damage not on units but building, as compared to tempest design hit hard as siege tank, can be protected by cheap 50 mineral with 17 dps.
-ghost 4 powerful ability vs 1 useful templar. Try switch and make templar can cloak, can snipe, has emp, has anti armor spell, while ghost can only feedback and storm (can always be dodge, not insta dmg, dmg slow over time)
Then you'll see who is op 😊
The correct plural of nexus is nexuses, or alternatively nexus.
Correct and accepted:
One nexus.
Multiple nexuses.
Multiple nexus.
Incorrect:
Multiple nexi.
This stems from the latin etymology of the word "nexus", as it is different than the word "cactus" for instance, since it is a fourth, and not second, declension noun. (This is much more rare, which is why there is a common misunderstanding)
So in order for Showtime to actually throw the game he decides to shove into a PF (with his entire army LOL) 15:52 with 20 less army supply, all the zealots go for the PF which is being repaired, he obviously get absolutely demolished, wastes all his novas to kill off the PF while retreating (LOL?) and then obviously gets absolutely demolished, oh ye btw he also warps in 1 million zealots and attack moves them into mass liberation zones, also does not understand that high templars would just win the game.
Showtime, Sir you made me sick to my stomach.
you kept saying showtime was making bad trades.. he wasnt really though. he was heavily denying his opponent minerals. its actually smart if you have the ability to back your army up really quick.. like having 25+ gateways lol. if he can keep denying those forward bases he can win by attrition.
This is why I hate playing VS Terran. Their units are so deadly that they can come back from extreme deficit. Playing vs them must be 100% perfect because they do so much damage.
i think losing your pinky toe is worse cause they're the furthest to the side, so you're more susceptible to falling in that direction. losing your big toes wouldn't be so bad balance-wise cause they're more centralized(?), kinda like how taking out the center piece in jenga doesn't destabilize the tower that much why am i still thinking about this
Talk about major brain fart on both sides. Why didn't gumiho fly his cc to a new base over a 10 minute period? and how you lose as showtime while out mining your opponent for 10 mins is crazy.
these throwing money fights into the toilet in the endgame to use these 38 gateways and in the final 5 minutes, every single unit mattered. .. showtime should have built 1 void ray, sent it on attack move and waited for Gumiho's GG. finally, the void ray would have had a purpose.
it was close, it was an alright game. but my goodness watching passive pros play meta build orders for 15 minutes each too scared to attack the other... zzzzzz
Showtime had multiple god awful, totally avoidable fights and trades. Some were flat out stupid, especially considering the gate count after a certain point.
Strange plays from a great player
Showtime could have won if he maked storms instead of like 8 disruptors just to kill 2 marauders and his own zealots. Since they nerfed disruptors they're just useless most of the times.
So... Bunch of money and macro advantage, just to end the game with some battle aces gameplay for like 10 min straight... wow
@HarstemCasts If you loose your Big Toe, you are massivly out ouf balance!
The small toe is not so much a problem.
*builds 26 gateways*
*doesn't unlock any of the best units that come from gateways*
-_-
I mean... I hate to say this, but it really does seem as if Protoss players get -80 IQ everytime I see them play :(
Wow, those useless disruptor killed more toss than terrans. Just imagine they would be immortals...
maybe its not imbalanced if youre missing all the toes
That's top commentary
Someone needs make the analysis on loosing all your toes. Is it IMBA, or does it suck?
Terran is just imba, its so obvious. 50 minerals marine for 17 dps is just obvious
Not even close as a GOFY. It’s a sloppy game from Showtime.
Awesome zealot drop 8:20
Terran is too difficult to beat when they get air tanks. Why do they need those?
Ah, the current era RUclips and the needs to overhype every title and thumbnail: "Game of the year! (of the week)".
Losing one toe is not imbalance, you just only suck. Deal with it.
2nd game of the year, and I can't wait for the 3rd. GJ capt!
bit hard to follow the action when the view is zoomed in half the cast
I'm missing a middle toe. Am I IMBA or do I suck?
please learn the theory of toes and then teach us the theory of toes
LOL Gumiho won a lost game, impresive
GoTY still belongs to clem and serral i think
Game of the year... No this was terrible play.
Why build 26 gateways when you arent even trading army units? Did showtime think if he built enough gateways he would unlock more than 200 supply?
It’s about remaxing quickly after losing your units
@@enriquegarciacota3914 yeah and then losing the game because you spent 4000 minerals on gateways
@@TheSuperappelflap well no one is forcing you to play that way. It is the Zerg way, though
If you need more than 100 minerals per unit you need at least an income of 2600 minerals, sadly zealots and stalkers just suck against MMM + ghost so it was the most stupid unit composition ever. You just can't use zealots agains marauders, it's in the tutorial dude.
@@KradDrows Uthermal just did a max zealot one where his mineral income was 4k/minute. Granted, he had a single gas :) But 2600/min is doable
It was ok. The games are always gold and below
Game Stupid of the Year from ShoWTimE
is it the most boring game of the year or what?
No joke about the pro-toes ? What a waste 😅
Ahh another game of Harstem catching cheaters.
Terran OP or what? MMM too powerful
showtime punted this game so hard
wtf? how did protoss lost that last battle ? on hg on def base n higher army power... shame
I'm not saying it was a throw, but something seemed off, there were lots of painful decisions all around. Were the players tired or was it the end of a long series? It was honestly hard to watch in places.
Frustrating....to watch....im Protoss
Wow. So pity about Showtime 😢
He was one void ray away from wining.
Wow, that game was something else
I wanted ShoWTimE to win :(
Hi Harstem,
I did see You at Mykonos airport few weeks a go. I didn't want to disturb you while vacation but wanted to let You know that You are celebrity :) commoners like me do see you around!
Keep up the good work.
Such a bad game by showtime
de grote teen, Harstem, the big toe
It was easier to know how long units took to make before Legacy of the Void. Marines 25 in-game seconds, marauders 30. Now everything is divided by 1.4x whichmakes all the numbers weird and hard to remember
OMEGALUL SHOWTIME
showtime 100% fell asleep
Gumiho is a maniac. What a game
Showtime to conservative
I think generally if you have all 10 toes, it’s easier to balance vs. not having all of your toes, but not 💯 % sure
who needs a brain when you can mass stalkers and zealots right?
Terran IMBA
LOL
Harstem my man I love you! Not GOTY. Now let’s boost the algorithm so more people can see this.
I'm not sure if I like skipping the adept in the opener, if they play 3 reaper 2 hellion they can just run by the stalkers no?
Showtime was soooo bad
When the Harstem knows what a pinky toe is but not a big toe, lol
Edit: the fat toe, the thumb toe, the largest toe!
Fantastic game!!!
Thumb toe lol
what an ending
I wish the person who invented stim pack was never born... just like I wish the person who invented whirlwind in Diablo 2 was never born. But... that's how games are developed. You need mad 'skills' (wink-wink) to have a single ability that can win anything, anytime, with any race, any built, regardless of unit composition and player strategy. It's just like a win button for goons. But, hey!.. who doesn't like drugs? Kids, remember, don't do drugs... unless they're in a computer game and they're named 'stimulation package'. 🤣 Terran is such a joke... just like the barb in D2, or demon hunter in D3, with that brain-dead whirlwind non-sense. 😆
yes and just make blink stalkers every game, toss huge brain race
@@bwzarchive708
My point, exactly!
Do you remember 5 or 6 years ago when one of the 1st versions of AI played against Mana? Why do you think the AI chose to play blink stalkers in every single game? Well, because blink stalkers are, by far, the best unit in the entire game, not even remotely close to anything else. Problem is - you need at least 3k APM to play it well, and then no one has a chance against them.
So, because they cannot be played well by humans, the second best thing is stim pack bio + medivac. You can handle it at 300-500 APM np, and you have a unit that costs 50 minerals capable to chew on anything in record time, due to insane attack speed. Why? Because Blizz sais so... that's why!
Imagine zerglings having wings and being able to do plunge attacks like the locusts from swarm hosts. Imagine zealots pulling up a gun from their pants and shooting like Arnold in Predator all of a sudden. That's how ridiculous stim pack/medivac style is.
Just for fun, go ask any terran player from the top 10 terran players... like Maru, Clem, whatever.. [insert name here] to actually play in a big $$$ tournament without stim pack/medivac, and see if any of them knows how to play without that crappy overpowered insanely imbalanced style. Ofc they all know how to play mech, and they also know how to play bio without stim pack and medivac, but why would any of them not use the 'one win button', as long as Blizz built one there for them? 🤣
Oh, and also, just think of this as a balance: zerg has 2 air units. Two!! They didn't even put in the game the suicidal crows from Broodwar (forgot their name); which would've made total sense, considering zerg has suicidal ground unit, but no kamikaze air unit anymore.
And while zerg has 2 air units (from which one morphs into the worst thing computer games have ever seen), terran has medivac, raven, viking, liberators, banshee, and battlecruisers, so 6, and toss has oracle, phoenix, void ray, tempest, and carriers, so 5.
Pretty much balanced, right? 5/6/2. What a joke... 🤢
And then you watch vids posted by ppl like our host here (I already hear the random donkey laughing in the background), and you facepalm yourself to death when you see that the only viable and successful thing a terran can do (even in a 30+ min game) is to build first 2 units that he can create: marrine and marauder, put some healing on top of them, and roll out a win every time, because no matter what you do, when those bad boys overdose on their lysergic acid diethylamide, oh boy!... you gotta have your shitting pants prepared... 😅
@@nilatac3273terrans are an absolute joke when it comes to skills ive come to realise. They make you believe that they can hold on lost games and make a come back trough sheer skill and grit but that's literally a lie. This entire race is nothing but "unit here on siege mode and forget about it" units. Libs, tanks, mines, PF + turrets. Not to mention every single unit in the terran arsenal including the scv in somehow insanely good at killing z and p workers (specifically p). No seriously think about it. Name 1 unit that the terran has that doesn't clear probe lines in 2 sec flat.
If terran were to ever to balanced, these whining soybois would literally never win anything
@@nilatac3273 Starcraft 1 originally had marines with 40 hp and no way to heal them. This made bio completely non-viable in every matchup. They need to have healing. And without stim they would straight up lose to any unit that can move faster or has more range, which is most units in the game. You can type a nice essay but yuo dont understand this game at all.
@@TheSuperappelflap 'they need to have healing'? 🤣 Wow! So, a unit that wasn't flawless, had to be made flawless. Ok, got it. Now I see the idea... 😉
Every unit in this game has its uses, for diff types of gameplay strategy. The marine/marauder/stimpack/medivac is the only type of unit combo that is used by all good terran players to win every time there's a big $$$ tournament.
You, obviously understanding the game (unlike me), have any argument why? Is it because none of the top 10/20 terran players knows how to play with other units? 😆 Or, maybe, just maybe, because it's a safe bet to go bio and win easily, as long as no other unit can even touch how good stimpack/medivac is?
There's no other unit in the entire game that can win vs any unit. None! Only blink stalkers can do it, but good luck reaching 3-5k APM. Other than that, every unit has its own nemesis, except junkie marines with healing and taxi over their head.
Just look at this replay that Harstem posted. Toss would win 100% of the time, if it was army vs army. If you add healing, is over. If you add healing & stimpack is not only over, but also embarrassing. Why would this look logical to SC2 players? Does it look fair and logical to you? Toss had bigger army, and better army, not only tier 1 units. But, because of healing and irrational attack speed, toss had no chance. Wow! Such a fair and logical developlemt of actions. So much balance... 🤪
Show me a tournament where a terran player won without stimpack/medivac in the last 15 years, and I'll agree that I don't understand the game at all. Until then, let's all enjoy how terran wins with marines no matter what you throw against them.
Much love! ❤
Connor McGreggor would agree with you on the pinky toe/blance thing...
That was a bawler thumb nail captain. Onward to glory!
25:17 watch: Gumio is supply blocked at 70/71 he completes 2 marauders that finish on the production tab. His supply never changes then well still theoretically kept he builds another one! Did anyone else seethis? How?
as soon as you start producing, the unit takes up supply
gg
Toes are Imba
GUMIHO!
No entiendo. Como es que no usó los obreros en ese último enfrentamiento?
Toes: Are they imba or do they suck?
Whoever designed the Terran race in sc2 was not right in the head. Amazing that anyone would believe the ridiculous dps of bio is in any way balanced, not to mention the abusive siege units of tank and liberator.
They designed bio thinking the downside was the hp (total hp and stim eating away a chuck from it) but the sheer amount of bio units and medivacs that heal them almost always ensure they win fights with a couple stim engagements anyways. And even if they don't terrans are pumping out marines are marauders at retarded rates from their 2 trillion raxs
There is no downside to using stim in actuality (outside of those 2 times medivacs ran out of these in all pro games last year... and now they added a energy regen upgrade for them lol)
Storms. Colossus. Actually flanking the bio all with zealots, increasing damage area AND denying MM retreat speed.
Showtime had to work hard to throw this match like that, but he managed
boo hoo I 1A'd my expensive protoss army into the cheap terran army and i lost the game :(
@@ambion19 nothing you mentioned beats bio + medivacs +tanks + libs with range if they’re positioned properly
@@TheSuperappelflap yeah Terran army that costs 1/2 the price and does double the damage lmao. 🤣 balance perfection
the thumbnail is fantastic😂