1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive
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- Edinburgh's tartan-clad pop-rockers Bay City Rollers are arguably the biggest British music phenomenon since The Beatles. They inspire a level of feverish adoration among their legion of young fans, which has been dubbed "Rollermania."
John Craven and Judith Hann explore this phenomenon. Is it just the Bay City Rollers' music that drives their fans' extraordinary devotion, or does the music itself not really matter? Is Rollermania a healthy expression of youthful exuberance - or is it something parents should be genuinely concerned about?
If Rollermania is an epidemic... is there a cure?
Fun Fact: BBC Archive's sister had an acute case of Rollermania as a child, and although she didn't make a complete recovery, she gets by, one day at a time.
Clip taken from Newsround Extra, originally broadcast on BBC One, Thursday 21 August, 1975.
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I remember this, my 2 friends are on this video they skipped school to go 🥰
i was too young at the time for all this, but i remember asking my mum to put tartan bands on the bottom of my flares - i had grown out of them and they were too short 😁 i liked it because it was "fashionable" with the older girls. and my lovely mum duly did! and by hand! she didn't have a sewing machine. thanks mum, for the memory ☺
oh and i loved the platform shoes! too young for them though. mum said no to that 😆
I remember seeing this when it was first broadcast when I was about 10. I wasn't into the Bay City Rollers at all but if you and other people got fun out of it I haven't got a problem with that. Good luck to and ya mum sounds pretty cool too.
I reckon I'm 20 years your junior from that comment and yeah I remember 96/97 all the girls were Girl Power! hahaha
I do sympathise. I was a teenybopper. 1973. I fell blissfully in love with David Cassidy. Up went the posters and records bought. I even managed to get to a concert. It lasted about a year and then it was over, I abandoned poor David. I'm sure the same will have happened eventually with these girls.
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 1556pm 14.11.24 ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm i bet yer the bird who gave my mum yer old cassidy t-shirt hand-me-down which i refused to wear. he laid in my drawer for a decade or so... no way!!! said i. noooooo wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! i stuck it out with starksy & hutch - far more normal an appreciation... as my sister sparkled with charlies angels... i am still perplexed why the i shot JR t-shirt i wore induced far more grimaces than chortles, though, from the none too discerning general public. t-shirt humour never got off the ground, i feel...
As a boy, mine was Marie Osmond. I had her poster in my room. Then just a few years later, her and Donny were performing at the Colorado state fair. I was there to see the fair, and when I saw her on stage, I wasn't that interested. I was officially over her.
@@4seeableTV Comments on ‘1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive’ 2152pm 14.11.25 wow. you guys took to actually having unacknowledged affairs with the object of your affections without their knowledge ie: you would sit and moon over a very distant and obscure notion of what marie osmond was like....? glad i have my tongue in my cheek in such matters. must be odd to realise you could or have been the object of some young lady or young chap's 4 tissue fantasies... i cant say i had pictures of celebs on my wall. not celebs i'd want to have carnal knowledge of... a picture of a space shuttle really doesn't count for much.. i can't say nocturnal emissions entered the fray, there... there is a joke in all of that but it would be far too vulgar and uncouth to elaborate upon...
@@4seeableTV So fickle!
1973, my ten year old sister went totally gaga over David Cassidy, she had all the posters and records.
But she absolutely detested all the Osmonds, especially Donny, as well the BCRs.
If you read Johnny Ramone's book, you can tell just how much he learned from the Rollers - it was important to him to have basic clothing that the fans could buy rather than the glam stuff.
I have learnt in my life to respect anyone who has a real passion for any one thing. I have also learnt to enjoy all types of music, starting with punk. I have just bought a John Denver box set of albums. I would never have listened to this years ago, but watching RUclips videos of someone who has a love for his music led me on to listen to him. Never let your own prejudice cheat you out of good music. Bay City Rollers are part of British social history and heritage and i wish I could step back to 1975 just for a day. I was twelve then and those days were an endless stream of variety and adventure it seemed.
@simoncurl4504 I was 20 and into Black Sabbath all through the '70s. Now I have Kate Bush's complete catalogue and have started collecting Badfinger albums.
I grew up in Bay City Michigan during that time . The girls loved them
Remarkably articulate young ladies.
Really?
Fans are much harder-faced these days, too blasé to scream and faint. Old fashioned innocence pours out of those young roller fans. I wonder what happened to the Bristol girl and her brother?
In 1977 i was 9,The Rollers were Massive,i loved Punk Rock even as a child but ....The Rollers were a good band with excellent songs 😎
Girl being interviewed, on her opinion of the two hottest groups:
"How could the Osmond's be better? They don't even wear any tartan" 😄
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 14.11.24 1601pm these gals remind me of female relations who would probably be aghast to see photos of themselves decked out in the trends of the era - which i'd really like to see - as dubious fashion faux pas are meat and drink to such as me. the 70's was a defunkt era, lost to whatever mind bending drugs the fashion designers of the day had taken a decade previously...... it was the era of oddness as scottish football fans ran amok on the wembley turf and english lasses enjoyed them for such riske trespass.... i was forced to stick a scottish football poster on my wall replete with flag. i am still wondering why my liking dutch football meant i liked scottish football - the two teams dont bear scrutiny - at all!!!!!................................................. i liked the bay city rollers but that could be a risdual effect of them constantly being on tv or the aofresaid female realtions enjoying them. i think they matured quckly thought and took wup with led zep and sabbth muscial forays.... probably good times if only regards having to listen to serious sounding chaps waflfle on about their fashion guru status, which seemed to impres the ladies no end, as though it was as natural as reading a newspaper ie: their wearing horrendous platform shoes and pearl drop shirts with tank top as they recalled gettinginto fights with crap haircuts and long hairs trynna kung-fu their way out of bedlam and breaking an ankle inthe process as they fell off their paltforms.... very funny to listen to folk harp on about such matters. dunno why.. is it just me who finds the 70's horrendous baffling and deeply risible?
She was right about one thing though, you'd look stupid with an American flag tied to your arm!
@@cricketbatguitar That's true.
@@cricketbatguitar Comments on ‘1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive’ 2157pm 14.11.24 hardly... i had an American flag sweater sent to me by someone as a child.. it could have been a Chilean sweater, though, or a Texan sweater............ eventually i took to thinking i must be an honorary Texan for some reason... no idea why....
@@cricketbatguitarIt's just a gimmick, innit?
I remember a woman coming in my local corner shop a few years ago when I worked there (the type of shop you never saw someone only once) probably during covid. she was head to toe in tartan and bay city rollers memorabilia. Never saw her again after that, I think of her often! One seriously committed fan haha
I remember seeing news like this about the Rollers hysteria as a child and being terrified by it, saying to my mum “never let me go to a concert like that” and she replied, “when you’re 18 I won’t be able to stop you!”😂
And then when Duran Duran came along, there was no stopping you! ;-)
@ 😂
The reporter asks ...if the Bay City Rollers are to follow in his (Bill Haley's) footsteps their next big challenge must be to conquer America. Will they succeed?
Yup, they did. While I was completely tuned out of the music scene in the early to mid 1970s, my wife was a young girl who was head over heels for the Bay City Rollers. She got her father to take her to concerts, a family vacation was planned in Canada so she could buy an album not yet released in the US, posters, clothes, etc., etc. By the time I met her in 1980 she was pretty much over it but at the time...
Oh wow, she sounds exceptionally spoiled. Did she grow up into a spoilt brat?
I was a huge Rollers fan but never got to see them, I lived near Bristol but missed this tour and the next ome I sent a posatal order to the theatre in London for a ticket planning to bunk off school and go to London alone aged 13 but my postal order was returned with a lettter saying the concert was sold out, I was inconsolable, they didn't tour again with that line up and by then I was mad on Kate Bush who I did see in Bristol in 1979.
As someone who grew up in the 70's i couldn't wait for the 80's to come along.
What Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet? There is good and shite in every decade.
@SharonTateFan67 yeah but I see the 70's as the decade that fashion forgot about.
@@cunninglinguist-hu1dzand thev80’s
@cunninglinguist-hu1dz great fashion in some regards.at least it was interesting .70s platforms came back in the 90s and flared trousers.
@@cunninglinguist-hu1dzheterosexual men dressing like fairies 😂
Young women and their tastes in music have had a lot to answer for throughout the ages.
Bros!
Westlife
Take That
Nothing wrong with the Rollers mate, they were a great band.
@@johnnymoththey were dreadful, truly dreadful.
@@johnnymothRollerworld is testament to that fact.
i remember in the 90s my brother in law was sorting his clothes he came across his jeans they were a bit short in legs i said what u going to do with them......he said might put tartan at the end of them we both cracked up laughin rip graham and les great memories 😄❤💐🥀
Great tour bus arriving in Bristol. Literally a van.
brilliant
It's for safety. An anonymous white van doesn't draw any attention. Unlike a bus with Bay City Rollers Tour written all over it
They would have likely only travelled from the hotel in the van.
You can guarantee they had to get changed in that van and the smell inside was a combination of fuel, sweat, body odour and fag ends 😂
Almost 51 years on & I’m still a fan KOR 💙😘
I'll be honest, there's about 3 Roller's songs i like, although being into Heavy Metal back in the day, I'd never have admitted to it.
I actually remember them having a resuden every Saturday at ( i think it was) The Trocadero in Hamilton around 1971/72.
What's genuinely sad, and it's irrelevant what ones views on their abilities, is that they were massive on the global stage and should all have been multimillionaires, except their manager, the odious Tam Paton completely shafted them.
John Craven around this time reminded me of Mr Spock. Thought I would do a search on this idea and apparently it was first mentioned around the time of Swap Shop. The team even produced a sketch called Swap Trek which John as Mr Speck. Noel was Captain Lurk, Keith was Spotty and Maggie as Uhura. Sounds illogical to me
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 14.11.24 1622pm "can i come in" he asks, half way up the stairs to the gals' bedroom... c'mon, john, that's not the way to go....
Bay City Rollers....great band great songs la belle jeanne my particular fave....les and alan rip
I grew up in canada but had Scottish parents and remeber having bay city roller record, my two older brothers also had the same first names as tw of the members.
Bristol…Tartan, & The Bay City Rollers ?!?? 😮
I thought they’d be more into that other 70s sensation…The Wurzel’s, singing songs about cider & drinking it by the flagon 😂🤣
Oh bless, remember the Rollers and the fashions and all the girls being obsessed with them, bless em, all a sea of emotions. I was 11 when all this was going on, great times.
"They got a tartan gimmick." Yeah, that's all that matters.
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 14.11.24 1613pm the dude craven chatted to in the opening skit seems to have a grandson who was at the gig i attended last night...
Jackie Stewart wore the tartan before these guys.
Eric Faulkner has a fantastic new album out on Bandcamp. There is an interview on TD1 radio with him this Friday starting at 7pm Eastern time.
I have it and it really very good. Everyone should check it out.
Eric's new album IS great...looking forward to the interview on Friday too!
I got a bit fed up with them as they were in Look In every week it seemed.
I hadn't seen this one before...loved the interview with the band at the end. Eric Faulkner just put out a new album (Faulkner--on Bandcamp). His current catalog of music is fantastic; I listen to it every day--and, yes...I still listen to BCR music too!
"They got a Tartan gimmick, an' the Osmonds haven't, you can't go around with the American flag round yer arm, can ya... ? you'd look STOOPID !"
Cloff Richard & Black Sabbath at the Hammersmith Odeon??!
lol I noticed that
Together at last!
Is Cloff Richard a Cliff Richard tribute act?
This is great! Thank you. Could you re-post Labi Siffre "Sounding Out 1972" but this time in full? Thank you.
Looks like Daniel Day-Lewis was interviewed in the stadium seats! I hope Debbie & Karen still have their BCR posters all over their walls - priceless! I believe that some of 1975’s big favorites were David Bowie, The Eagles, The Bee Gees & Elton John.
Remember it well!
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 14.11.24 1629pm glad you enjoyed your bay city rollers skit. definitely a female-centric band. but then boy bands have allus had the gals weak at the knees... hitler wearing tartan? would have stormed it.
I remember watching them in Ashton in 1996...I remember Eric Faulkner was performing but no Les McKeown (didn't he go to prison for some unknown reason)?
I don't think the drummer Derek Longmuir was there neither.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Gullible girls! Does anybody remember this band or what all the fuss was about anymore? Just a forgotten footnote in the annals of pop music history. As a kid of the 70s mind, I do remember John Craven’s Newsround though 😏 and he’s still around too! Now at the ripe old age of 84.
The story of the Bay City Rollers is an utter tragedy. They were young men being sexually abused by their manager, the notorious Tom Paton, who was also giving them amphetamines to keep them going. Paton had a number of heavy connections, including Jimmy Saville and convicted offender radio 1 DJ Chris Denning. Paton told the boys that if they slept with Denning, they'd get more air play on the radio. Paton also had a regular stream of young lads going through his Edinburgh home and some of the group remember Saville and Denning being present at times. An associate of Paton, John Wilson, was later convicted for abusing both boys and girls, including with Paton. On the night of Paton's death in 2009, £1.5 million worth of cash and drugs were stolen from his home. There's a very good documentary about it all.
Thank you for posting this I saw this when I was 7.
I like rollers. Jungle & D&B rollers.
1975 i brought 2 of the bay city rollers lps and they really very good it was a pity it didnt last long i lve music i am Elvis . Rolling stones . Beatles .queen . T .Rex .slade .metal fan the rollers were good
I wish I was there in the 70s but I was born in the 2000s😭
I can remember lots of male fans who dressed like them and I think they were to scared to go to the concerts
3000 screaming girls at a concert. The era before arena and stadium concerts were the norm.
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 14.11.24 1627pm all screaming: who built that fire place?
If memory serves, "God save rock and roll" was one of their numbers, right? ... if I caught just a bit of it on the radio, it became an earworm that drove me nuts.... 😂😂😂😂😂
Although the baby city dollars hosted the kroft super show from Captain Kool and the kings which pissed me off because I love k d Michael lembeck 😊
Today we would call these impressionable fans 'Radicalised'.
Bizarrely all the money they made mysteriously disappeared leaving Les McKeown doing solo gigs until his death, sad.
Put John Craven in tartan, a guitar in hand and he would have easily fitted in. 😝
Their manager Tam Paton screwed them over along with sexually abusing them.He was an awful individual.
There manager knew Elton John????tam
Tam was a naughty boy.
@@mrlotusmiche was.
Man. I'd forgotten how corny, stupid, and frivolous we all were😂
All very innocent compared to todays influences.
What happened when Roller fans bumped into the Tartan Army? 🤔😄
Are these dudes like. Human. The interviewer is acting as if he uncovered a long lost mystery.
God I was 11 years old when the baby city dollars craze hit America Rollar minia is well dead by now id say it died by 1977😂❤
Beatles = Musicians, songwriter
Bay City Rollers = Musici.....?
Talent ?
@phillipcarter8045 who needs talent. Its popularity that counts.
@dean6816 Well, David Paton stood in on bass once. He ended up in Alan Parsons Project and 3 or 4 Kate Bush albums.
0:29 is this imran khan?
Scottish not british
Seems that 'they' like to distract young women with silly boy bands every decade or so. 🤔
I can't imagine Judith Hann ever getting hysterical over anything. 😄
Ah the 70s. A unique time when bearded heterosexual men would wear their sisters ill fitting long sleeved t shirts for some reason 😂
Scottish group not British 😅
Musically speaking they weren’t very good .
Gay shitty rollers?
@phillipcarter8045 David Paton had a short stint with them. He went on to become a staple with Alan Parsons Project and played on about 3 or 4 Kate Bush albums.
who?
Now sime people are obsessed with crap new direction.
Why do all these teenagers look like they're 50?
1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive 14.11.24 1554pm that's your deubious reasoning power messing with you... ummmmmmmmmm.....
They are now .
@@phillipcarter8045 1979: The Great LIFE OF BRIAN DEBATE | Friday Night Saturday Morning | BBC Archive
smoking, lead pollution, lack of sunscreen, overboiled vegetables for tea? could be anything really
@@milquetoasted Comments on ‘1975: BAY CITY ROLLERS - How DANGEROUS is Rollermania? | Newsround Extra | BBC Archive’ 17.11.24 1136am gotta overboil 'em if yer making home made soup... al dente is not where it's at. dude.
Terrible bilge, gimmick band. 1970s Britain was so depressing, cringe inducing and mediocre in so many ways.
I wholly disagree; there’s been cringe inducing “boy bands” around since the ‘60’s and more so now than ever before, with corporate bilge dominating the charts. However, in the ‘70’s we also had Led Zeppelin, Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Yes, Gentle Giant, T.Rex, Rush, Can, Hawkwind etc., etc. etc. To describe ‘70’s music as “mediocre” is ridiculous and, as a 17 year old in ‘77 I personally also witnessed the punk phenomenon, which was awesome, incredible fun and produced some brilliant bands. The ‘70’s was a pivotal era for music in the UK and I loved it; shame you missed out on the fun.
@@pdlawson-venusloon359agree.
@@pdlawson-venusloon359punk was another fad.
Why does the bbc have so many nonces?
Access to kinder
What is nonces?
They aren't but their manager was something else...
Why, are you afraid of the competition?
@@kmarch6630 A BBC employee.
Gay City Rollers
I see no sign of buggery here .
Hahaha, you got 'em good with that one!
I can see that tumble weed going past.lame.😂
@@melgrant7404 Really? Perhaps you don't understand the joke? See, instead of BAY City Rollers, they said GAY City Rollers. A play on words! Absolutely hilarity ensued! Because the words rhyme, you see? Gay, sounds like BAY.
@@DeadSetOnDestruction another tumble weed moment. Keep.em coming .