Ps there might be other skaters in the future that will break Yuzurus records, but all I have to say is his skating is what caught my eye. His personality, manners, courage to challenge himself, his finest details that he perfects, and his pure love for the ice is what kept my heart ❤️ Yuzuru Hanyu is one not once is a generation kind of athlete, he is once in a millennium kind of presence. He deserves all the respect and love that he has EARNED. Thank you for redefining figure skating.
There is only one yuzuru, he did what he had to do, giving the best off himself, if there was no corona all that time ,he did still order things ...he is fenomenaal a once in a lifetime 🙏🙏🙏👏👏💖💖💖thank you for all the Joy you give me and to so many People💞💞💞💞
It does matter who leave it first for the sake if history. And the person who put in all that bravery and passion, as you mentioned, deserves to be remembered. For the record, Ilia Mallilin has official landed the 1st Quad Axel. It happened just a few days ago and is all over social media.
@@dmp7252 Yuzuru doesn't post videos of his trainings, so you don't know if he jumped 4A in the trainings. And the fact that someone jumps something in training does not mean anything, it is important that he jumps it in an international competition. Only then will it be officially recognized and it will go down in history.
@@helenababikova8806 Of course it is more important to do clean 4A in competition. No doubt. But to do 4A in competition, you have to do it in training first, right ? Ilia's 4A is the best I've ever seen. There's another video now of Ilia landing the 4A cleanly, no step out.
@@mrl6956 OK. I keep my fingers crossed that he will succeed in the competition as well. But just because we see one video where Ilia jumped 4A, doesn't mean it, that he jumps 4A steadily. And do you know why I say it? My granddaughter is a child figure skater and I go to see her training. He learns to jump double jumps, except for 2A (he doesn't jump 2A on ice yet). And the other double jumps she is already jumping, but she has problematic 2LZ. Yes, sometimes she manages to jump clean 2LZ, but mostly she falls out of it. So it takes time and she won't it jump in the competition yet. Although 2LZ sometimes she jumps in training and we can take video about it. However, this does not mean that we can say that she jumps 2LZ. Other example is Sasha Trusova. In training, I saw her jump 3A many times, even several times in a row. However, clean 3A she has never jumped in the competition. So in the end, I wish Ilia that he will succeed with 4A in the competition as well, but for now I take him as I take my granddaughter (2LZ) and Sasha Trusova (3A). So, when someone manages to jump something into training, it doesn't mean it's jumping steadily and in the competition.
Indiferent de situația de la Beijing, Yuzuru e un diamant de neegalat, e cel mai frumos patinator din toate timpurile, în armonie cu muzica,elegant, sensibil, costumele minunate,dansul mâinilor, degetelor ,e atent mereu sa salute oameni ,mulțumește gheții, divinități e natural in tot ceea ce face e uimitor ,e un înger o adiere de vânt, e fenomenal UNIC .Mulțumesc pentru ca bucuri suflete noastre cu arta ta de neegalat .mulțumesc mult ești diamantul planetei .❤❤❤
Yuzuru hanyu is the first to complete the quad axel jump. It happened in December of 2021 there’s videos of it everywhere. There’s honestly no need for comparison. Yuruzu Hanyu IS the GOAT. He doesn’t have a competitor. If I need to say one, that would be himself. Nobody skates like him. So beautifully and clean. So many world records that were broken by him. And for the past 66 years, no body has gotten the Olympic gold two times in a year! And honestly if he didn’t challenge himself into the quad axel and if he didn’t sprain his ankle attempting the jumps, no doubt, he would’ve earned his third Olympic Gold this year. No body has the courage like Yuzuru does. He jumped that quad axel with no hesitation. He put the gold metal at risk to become the first in history and guess what. Yuzuru Hanyu made history. The FIRST Quad Axel to get certified. His quad excel got certified by ISU during the 2022 Beijing Olympics.
You're right, he's amazing! You're absolutely right that Hanyu is GOAT!! Nobody beats his beautiful artistry, nobody beats his talent! He's worked so hard ( you probably know he has pretty bad asthma which makes everything He's accomplished so much more amazing)! And you're also right that he is the first certified quad axel (AMAZING! I watched it live!)! I'm just talking about a ratified quad axel. I was so sad when I heard he got hurt again. I wish him an easy recovery and I hope he never gets hurt again. His bravery, his artistry, his dedication to this sport is something we will always be grateful for. He's pushed the sport so much. Thank you for taking the time to comment
@@skatingandmusic5756 I am a huge Hanyu fan but his quad Axel in this video is. 2/3 revolutions short. He is still the greatest but Malinin will rewrite the history books
The title of this video isn’t “Proof that Ilani is better than Hanyu!” or “Ilani lands first quad axel Hanyu is trash!” It’s comparing their quad axels… You ok? We can use our eyes to see Ilani land a quad axel and applaud him for it without abandoning our love of Hanyu. It’s allowed and I wish I saw more of it.
@@jmoneil13 It says quad Axel comparison and analysis.... Hanyu fans are going to be pussy hurt that somebody else did the quad Axel before Hanyu.... One point everybody seems to be overlooking is that when Hanyu rose to prominence, the men were doing pretty much just quad toe. Hanyu elevated the sport to adding the quad Salchow as well as being the first man to do the quad loop. In addition to being the GOAT and the icon that is Hanyu, he has elevated the sport to having beautiful and artistic transitions into and out of the big jumps instead of the old fashioned way where everybody said, " Uh-oh... Here comes the big jump...." Hanyu also was able to elevate his skills to also be able to s the quad Lutz(one of the best ever when he could hit it...). All these technical and artistic achievements combined with his charisma and aura arguably makes Hanyu the most iconic figure skater/rock star ever. Not to mention all the world record scores he got along the way.... Hanyu is getting older and it's amazing he has been able to achieve so much due to his love of the sport throughout all of his injuries. We all love and applaud him for all of this and more... Now enter Ilia Malinin who has textbook quad Lutz, toe, Salchow, loop and now Quad Axel.... Enter Malinin who can do quad toe/quad toe, quad toe/quad loop and quad toe Euler quad Salchow... Enter Ilia Malinin who can do a CLEAN quad Axel that looks as easy as a triple Axel... There has to be somebody to whom Hanyu can pass the torch. It might as well be a phenom lIke Ilia Malinin..... Somebody who can fill the void after Hanyu retires..... Somebody who can elevate the sport of figure skating to maybe 145-150 point short program scores and 275+ point free skate scores.... Who knows??? Who is to say that he can't do that? Why shouldn't we all enjoy watching him try???? I am just excited that there is somebody after Hanyu and Chen who can unleash the most mind blowing content that we could never have imagined a few years ago.... I remember Plushenko talking about one day he would like to be able to do quad toe/triple loop combo because it is so much harder to do the triple loop after the quad toe instead of a triple toe.... Then Malinin comes along and just does quad toe/quad loop combo and lands over his right side like a GOD... Quadg0d.... I can't wait to see how Malinin can integrate all of these things into his up coming programs... It will be a thrill to watch... If Hanyu continues to skate, it will be a blessing to watch. If he retires, Malinin will take it from there...
Statements like this are why everyone hates fanyus. Do y'all really need to stretch the truth THAT MUCH? No, he isn't the first to complete the quad axel, because he's never landed one. And if he doesn't have competitors, why hasn't he won a major title in years? Why didn't he medal at the Olympics? Why do you people have to constantly diminish other skaters? The truth is, Yuzuru's time ended in 2018. He has been surpassed in competitions and now Ilia is landing his dream jump instead of him. Just accept it, there are skaters in the world who do some things better than he does. Btw, there's no such thing as "certified". It's just sth fanyus made up to make themselves feel better about his unsuccessful attempt. Like... love him to your heart's content, but for the love of god, stop making shit up and stop downplaying other skaters' achievements.
Ilia landed a beauty of a quad axel at Skate America on 10-22-2022. He scored 16.61 (12.50 base value + 4.11 GOE) on that one jump alone; It's the highest scoring solo jump element ever awarded to any skater.
What do I think?...I think it's more than I will ever do on ice. The closest thing I've ever gotten to spinning on ice is when I fell and landed on my butt while shoveling the ice on the driveway,
This is exactly what i think but maybe he was afraid that his career might be over by having a career ending injury at the beginning of his career and couldnt take that risk
I’m not really an expert, but I would say that Hanyu’s leg could kick up higher on the takeoff of his 4A and his arms could definitely be tighter. I was looking back and forth at both of their 4As and I could see that Ilia had a slightly tighter air position and his leg kicked up more. This is just what I think, please correct me if you think I am wrong!!
I feel like Ilia spins faster than Yuzuru, and this could definitely be a reason why. Thank you for your extra analysis and for taking the time to share! edit: rotates, not spins
@@skatingandmusic5756 yuzu can pass as early 20s. Both look young but honestly as an Asian when I see Western especially Caucasian I sometimes thought they are older, not that they look old but because they look mature, like when someone is 14 I thought they're 18.
Don't you think the videos would already be all over the internet and social media if they really existed ? It's like the story of a friend bragging about how he caught this humongous fish, but it slipped away from his hands so the couldn't provide any concrete evidence. Umm, yeah ... sure.
@@AT-jm4dl don’t you think coaches have private videos of their skaters they haven’t released? Especially considering that was their main form of communication while he was in Japan…
maybe Malinin on another training video gave his "clean jump", but his performance at DOI with bow-legged rotations and lack of presentation as such is a spit to the audience It would be better if he worked on the program and worked for the audience than to promote himself with a jump that he could not perform at the performance
Ilia's quad axel is by far better than Yuzuru's. Ilia's is fully rotated and he can land it on one foot on a clean running edge. Yuzuru has never got the full rotation and has never landed it on one foot. Look - all Yuzuru fans, Yuzuru is an amazing skater and he has left us with a fantastic legacy, but please give credit to that young man Ilia who has clearly landed the first quad axel in history. I'm sure Yuzuru would be the first to acknowledge Ilia's achievement.
Look, I am not interested in this young man, and not interested in 4A, it's just because Yuzu want to do it, I wish him success. Don't teach what fanyu should do and don't make a statement on behalf of Yuzu, who authorized you?
@@freda8430 I think your understanding of English is perhaps not sufficient to fully comprehend what I actually wrote. I didn't attempt to teach anyone and I didn't make a statement on behalf of Yuzuru. Please don't show your utter ignorance by coming on YT and making insulting statements when your level of English is so poor you simply didn't understand what I said.
Hanyu mentioned he has never landed in practice in a post-Olympics interview. His attempts are still far compared to llia's attempts despite practising for years. His first attempt is underrotated and downgraded to a 3A and he landed on 2 feet, while his second attempt is again underrotated and he fell. Compared to llia's three attempts where the first only has a step-out and within a few days, the second one is near clean and after a few days, the third one is clean, not to mention how his landing is so much stable than Hanyu. llia will definitely land first, especially when he progresses so fast that it took him only a short time to train and he is landing 4A everyday now. ETA: Congrats to Quad God for landing first certified 4A on 15 September 2022! First skater to land 6 types of quads! History has been made for landing most difficult quad ever! Next challenge is quint jump!
@@mariapetrusevich4564 Fanyu should not create lie. Go watch his latest 4A attempt at Japanese ice show practice for a close-up. Even his 3A are better than Hanyu. Skating forums, skaters, coaches and media all praised his 4A attempts. Hanyu's jumps have already regressed because of his constant practice in 4A.
@@sporeKAfan I watched his attempt, and the attempts of others, as well as his 3A, and dozens of 3A other skaters. what's the fanyu here? Russians love to cheat - that's a fact. it’s enough that many Russians themselves wrote about the 3A cheating technique a few years ago. both fans and specialists. I don’t mind at all if some skater jumps the first some quad or quintuple jump. but I don't like hype and cheating. and I don’t like dirty skating even more - I’m not specifically against Malinin, but in relation to those skaters who are noticed in this (even if the judges turn a blind eye to this)
@@mariapetrusevich4564 llia has much better jump technique with faster rotation and greater height and distance than Hanyu. Don't compare llia with the problematic Russian girls. You are obviously a fanyu when you go around praising Hanyu and can't see his weaknesses in jumps. Hanyu's jumps has already regressed because of his constant practice in 4A.
@@sporeKAfan I already said above, I don't care who lands what first. I am for clean technique and a good presentation. Ilya had an absolutely pathetic presentation at DOI 2022 in Japan, in my opinion. As a result, he could not land normally 4A, and did not show the program - consider that he ruined everything. About the feeling of jumping from the toe in the case of 4A - I have already said, and I will not refuse my words. Perhaps in the future it will improve and the sensations will be different. And mind you, I'm not saying he's bad at everything, he does have jumps with good technique. In the case of 4A, it looks more like PR and advertising.
@@sy-ib2wm Write it when Malinin jumps 4A clear in an international competition. Then it will be officially recognized that he first on the world jumped 4A and will go down in history. Just because he jumped it in training doesn't mean anything. Several figure skaters train 4A and it will be important who will jump clear 4A in an international competition. So OK, you fan Malinin, and maybe he'll jump it in the international competition. But it is quite possible that Hanyu or Shoma will succeed, or quite someone else.
Ilia's 4A is the best I've seen. But this video doesn't show Ilia's best 4A. SkatingandMusic wrote that made this video "before Ilia's (clean 4A) video came out". So I write again: I am looking forward to a new video with the QUAD AXEL comparison performed by Hanyu and Malinin.
Write to the person who made the video (SkatingAndMusic) "don't compare", not to me. It's so OBVIOUS that a clean 4A does not guarantee a win ! And one more thing: did someone write "if Ilia can jump a perfect 4A, shouldn't he focus on another skills" ?
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Oh god what a toxic comment section it is.. Obsessed fans of Yuzuru , diminishing other skaters just to calm down their ego.. Seems like all of ur azzes r on fire watching their idol not being the first to do lmao
@@keigotakami1741 Yes, I remember that after the Olympic LP, he said that when he was about to come out if the air to land the quad Axel, he said to himself, "ahh that's what it feels like .."....
Я просто в шоке от реакции фаню на 4А Ильи.Они тупо закрывают глаза на реальность и врут что Илья делает пол оборота предварительного вращения ,а Ханю не делает вообще.Для всех кто не знаком с техникой прыжка.Аксель прыгается с ребра поэтому его нельзя сделать без преротейшена.Но преротейшен Ильи как раз меньше чем у Ханю.Прыжок Малинина образец по всем параметрам,от отрыва до приземления ruclips.net/user/shortsZ9Yap7YQ2Tg?feature=share приятного просмотра
@GIFT настоящие глупцы это вы,закрывающие глаза только чтобы не видеть что любимый Ханю делает большее предварительное вращение.Таким как вы видео под нос сунули и показали что на 90 градусах Илья уже в воздухе,а Ханю только отрывается ото льда.Думаете дальше сможете распространять свои фейки?На вас уже все фк сообщество смотрит как на идиотов
@ouch-pepporFanyus are stupid unicorns who don't understand anything about jump technique. It's impossible to perform an Axel without a 1/4 prerotation. And Ilya just prerotates 1/4. And if you compare him with Hanyu, his prerotation is greater, plus a large UR and overall poor jump technique and weak physical characteristics.
Theres zero comparison...Ilia hits it clean more often than Hanyu does...I've seen NUMEROUS clips of Ilia hitting it perfectly, and the one championship show where he DID hit it clean in international competition..but I've yet to see footage of Hanyu landing it perfectly...ilia is the epitome of GOLD MEDAL PERFORMANCE
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honestly i think both are still underrotated :/ if you pause the video and draw a line through the skate, the landing should be on the same line but to the opposite side (or within a quarter rotation of that). It seems to me that Ilia's 4A is q, and hanyu's is
Yuzu can't do a quad axel. Even Keegan Messing has done a better attempt in practice. And Ilia had a clean 4A in practice less than a week after this one.
@Prologue Oh, i understand now. Yuzuru has more fans than any other skater. So you're correct, no other skater has that. And it's very nice that you are one of his fans. As for artistry, Jason Brown has more and is a better spinner. Patrick Chan had better artistry and edges by far. As for jumps, other skaters have much more difficulty.
both jumps are wrong, this is ice figure skating, where is the speed? the landing both horrible not flow, THIS IS NOT GYMNASTICS, it have to have the same speed at the take off and the landing, first triple axel was landing on 1952 yes 70 years ago ???????????
You can’t even call the Japanese skaters jump a quad axel because half a rotation is done on the ice with the free leg touching down. It’s ridiculous to compare the both of them.
Ps there might be other skaters in the future that will break Yuzurus records, but all I have to say is his skating is what caught my eye. His personality, manners, courage to challenge himself, his finest details that he perfects, and his pure love for the ice is what kept my heart ❤️ Yuzuru Hanyu is one not once is a generation kind of athlete, he is once in a millennium kind of presence. He deserves all the respect and love that he has EARNED. Thank you for redefining figure skating.
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You can’t be happy for this kid. Wow how fucking shallow
More shallow than the kiddie pool lmao go touch grass
Peggy Fleming is one and only.
Katarina Witt is one and only.
Michelle kwan is one and only.
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@Seimei If he was born in 1950....... no way.🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
He was lucky to be a skater NOW.
There is only one yuzuru, he did what he had to do, giving the best off himself, if there was no corona all that time ,he did still order things ...he is fenomenaal a once in a lifetime 🙏🙏🙏👏👏💖💖💖thank you for all the Joy you give me and to so many People💞💞💞💞
The only person Yuzuru Hanyu is competitive with is Yuzuru Hanyu himself in competition
I liked your reply even first my finger clicked "diss", sorry!🙂
meh. He wasn't able to defeat Nathan anymore after Olympic 2018
@@ctssam7008 이번에 빙질 안좋고 하뉴선수가 입국한지 얼마 안된채로 연습 안하고 쇼트경기해서 점수 낮구요
프리는 최고보단 최초를 선택
4A뛰다가 넘어지고 그 여파로 컨시도 안좋아져서 그런거지..
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@@ctssam7008 it is normal isn’t it. For the sport to move forward. One day a younger skater would surpass Nathan as well.
@@n1303144 So artistry is the most difficult technique, right ?
It really doesn’t matter to me about who landed it first the only thing that matters is their Bravery and Passison they put out to this world
It does matter who leave it first for the sake if history. And the person who put in all that bravery and passion, as you mentioned, deserves to be remembered. For the record, Ilia Mallilin has official landed the 1st Quad Axel. It happened just a few days ago and is all over social media.
@@dmp7252 not yet, he needs to do it in competition to be the first
@@dmp7252 Yuzuru doesn't post videos of his trainings, so you don't know if he jumped 4A in the trainings. And the fact that someone jumps something in training does not mean anything, it is important that he jumps it in an international competition. Only then will it be officially recognized and it will go down in history.
@@helenababikova8806 Of course it is more important to do clean 4A in competition. No doubt.
But to do 4A in competition, you have to do it in training first, right ? Ilia's 4A is the best I've ever seen.
There's another video now of Ilia landing the 4A cleanly, no step out.
@@mrl6956 OK. I keep my fingers crossed that he will succeed in the competition as well. But just because we see one video where Ilia jumped 4A, doesn't mean it, that he jumps 4A steadily. And do you know why I say it? My granddaughter is a child figure skater and I go to see her training. He learns to jump double jumps, except for 2A (he doesn't jump 2A on ice yet). And the other double jumps she is already jumping, but she has problematic 2LZ. Yes, sometimes she manages to jump clean 2LZ, but mostly she falls out of it. So it takes time and she won't it jump in the competition yet. Although 2LZ sometimes she jumps in training and we can take video about it. However, this does not mean that we can say that she jumps 2LZ.
Other example is Sasha Trusova. In training, I saw her jump 3A many times, even several times in a row. However, clean 3A she has never jumped in the competition.
So in the end, I wish Ilia that he will succeed with 4A in the competition as well, but for now I take him as I take my granddaughter (2LZ) and Sasha Trusova (3A). So, when someone manages to jump something into training, it doesn't mean it's jumping steadily and in the competition.
4А Yuzuru-- это не просто прыжок-- это ИСКУССТВО!!! 👏✨💖
Indiferent de situația de la Beijing, Yuzuru e un diamant de neegalat, e cel mai frumos patinator din toate timpurile, în armonie cu muzica,elegant, sensibil, costumele minunate,dansul mâinilor, degetelor ,e atent mereu sa salute oameni ,mulțumește gheții, divinități e natural in tot ceea ce face e uimitor ,e un înger o adiere de vânt, e fenomenal UNIC .Mulțumesc pentru ca bucuri suflete noastre cu arta ta de neegalat .mulțumesc mult ești diamantul planetei .❤❤❤
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Yuzuru hanyu is the first to complete the quad axel jump. It happened in December of 2021 there’s videos of it everywhere. There’s honestly no need for comparison. Yuruzu Hanyu IS the GOAT. He doesn’t have a competitor. If I need to say one, that would be himself. Nobody skates like him. So beautifully and clean. So many world records that were broken by him. And for the past 66 years, no body has gotten the Olympic gold two times in a year! And honestly if he didn’t challenge himself into the quad axel and if he didn’t sprain his ankle attempting the jumps, no doubt, he would’ve earned his third Olympic Gold this year. No body has the courage like Yuzuru does. He jumped that quad axel with no hesitation. He put the gold metal at risk to become the first in history and guess what. Yuzuru Hanyu made history. The FIRST Quad Axel to get certified. His quad excel got certified by ISU during the 2022 Beijing Olympics.
You're right, he's amazing! You're absolutely right that Hanyu is GOAT!! Nobody beats his beautiful artistry, nobody beats his talent! He's worked so hard ( you probably know he has pretty bad asthma which makes everything He's accomplished so much more amazing)! And you're also right that he is the first certified quad axel (AMAZING! I watched it live!)! I'm just talking about a ratified quad axel.
I was so sad when I heard he got hurt again. I wish him an easy recovery and I hope he never gets hurt again. His bravery, his artistry, his dedication to this sport is something we will always be grateful for. He's pushed the sport so much. Thank you for taking the time to comment
@@skatingandmusic5756 I am a huge Hanyu fan but his quad Axel in this video is. 2/3 revolutions short. He is still the greatest but Malinin will rewrite the history books
The title of this video isn’t “Proof that Ilani is better than Hanyu!” or “Ilani lands first quad axel Hanyu is trash!” It’s comparing their quad axels… You ok? We can use our eyes to see Ilani land a quad axel and applaud him for it without abandoning our love of Hanyu. It’s allowed and I wish I saw more of it.
@@jmoneil13 It says quad Axel comparison and analysis.... Hanyu fans are going to be pussy hurt that somebody else did the quad Axel before Hanyu.... One point everybody seems to be overlooking is that when Hanyu rose to prominence, the men were doing pretty much just quad toe. Hanyu elevated the sport to adding the quad Salchow as well as being the first man to do the quad loop. In addition to being the GOAT and the icon that is Hanyu, he has elevated the sport to having beautiful and artistic transitions into and out of the big jumps instead of the old fashioned way where everybody said, " Uh-oh... Here comes the big jump...." Hanyu also was able to elevate his skills to also be able to s the quad Lutz(one of the best ever when he could hit it...). All these technical and artistic achievements combined with his charisma and aura arguably makes Hanyu the most iconic figure skater/rock star ever. Not to mention all the world record scores he got along the way.... Hanyu is getting older and it's amazing he has been able to achieve so much due to his love of the sport throughout all of his injuries. We all love and applaud him for all of this and more... Now enter Ilia Malinin who has textbook quad Lutz, toe, Salchow, loop and now Quad Axel.... Enter Malinin who can do quad toe/quad toe, quad toe/quad loop and quad toe Euler quad Salchow... Enter Ilia Malinin who can do a CLEAN quad Axel that looks as easy as a triple Axel... There has to be somebody to whom Hanyu can pass the torch. It might as well be a phenom lIke Ilia Malinin..... Somebody who can fill the void after Hanyu retires..... Somebody who can elevate the sport of figure skating to maybe 145-150 point short program scores and 275+ point free skate scores.... Who knows??? Who is to say that he can't do that? Why shouldn't we all enjoy watching him try???? I am just excited that there is somebody after Hanyu and Chen who can unleash the most mind blowing content that we could never have imagined a few years ago.... I remember Plushenko talking about one day he would like to be able to do quad toe/triple loop combo because it is so much harder to do the triple loop after the quad toe instead of a triple toe.... Then Malinin comes along and just does quad toe/quad loop combo and lands over his right side like a GOD... Quadg0d.... I can't wait to see how Malinin can integrate all of these things into his up coming programs... It will be a thrill to watch... If Hanyu continues to skate, it will be a blessing to watch. If he retires, Malinin will take it from there...
Statements like this are why everyone hates fanyus. Do y'all really need to stretch the truth THAT MUCH? No, he isn't the first to complete the quad axel, because he's never landed one. And if he doesn't have competitors, why hasn't he won a major title in years? Why didn't he medal at the Olympics? Why do you people have to constantly diminish other skaters? The truth is, Yuzuru's time ended in 2018. He has been surpassed in competitions and now Ilia is landing his dream jump instead of him. Just accept it, there are skaters in the world who do some things better than he does.
Btw, there's no such thing as "certified". It's just sth fanyus made up to make themselves feel better about his unsuccessful attempt.
Like... love him to your heart's content, but for the love of god, stop making shit up and stop downplaying other skaters' achievements.
Ilia landed a beauty of a quad axel at Skate America on 10-22-2022. He scored 16.61 (12.50 base value + 4.11 GOE) on that one jump alone; It's the highest scoring solo jump element ever awarded to any skater.
@Seimei а Юзуру когла получал +5?И на чем ему их получать?на тулупах?😂
@Seimei это говорит фанатка самого грибного и переоцененного фигуриста получавшего высокие гое на грязных прыжках
Though I'm in love with yuzuru skating and personality as a human being. I must say ilia has such powerful spins.
And now he’s fucking done it. WE LOVE YOU ILIA 💖💖💖🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
What do I think?...I think it's more than I will ever do on ice. The closest thing I've ever gotten to spinning on ice is when I fell and landed on my butt while shoveling the ice on the driveway,
XD
Юдзуру вежливый и уважительный человек и он искренно будет радоваться прогрессу других спортсменов и поддерживать их 🙋♀️🖐️👌
Yazuru should've been attempting it when he was much younger.
This is exactly what i think but maybe he was afraid that his career might be over by having a career ending injury at the beginning of his career and couldnt take that risk
I’m not really an expert, but I would say that Hanyu’s leg could kick up higher on the takeoff of his 4A and his arms could definitely be tighter. I was looking back and forth at both of their 4As and I could see that Ilia had a slightly tighter air position and his leg kicked up more.
This is just what I think, please correct me if you think I am wrong!!
I feel like Ilia spins faster than Yuzuru, and this could definitely be a reason why. Thank you for your extra analysis and for taking the time to share!
edit: rotates, not spins
@@skatingandmusic5756 Илья и вращается быстрее и прыгает выше в среднем на 10 см.Поэтому выкручивает 4А
Yuzuru is 27. Illia is 17. They look the same age
Huh. In my opinion Yuzu looks like an adult and Ilia a child, but they both look young and healthy :)
@@skatingandmusic5756 yuzu can pass as early 20s. Both look young but honestly as an Asian when I see Western especially Caucasian I sometimes thought they are older, not that they look old but because they look mature, like when someone is 14 I thought they're 18.
Yuzuru 😍😍👍🏻🥇🥇
there is another video of ilia landed the quad axel cleanly in practice without stumbling out. you can find it on youtube.
I made this video before that one came out. I'm working on a second video that will include that one :)
actually he had jumped lack, for sure, you can slow the video and count
Gislhian said he had videos of yuzu landing it fully rotated.. I wish we could see those 🥲
Me tooooooo!
Don't you think the videos would already be all over the internet and social media if they really existed ? It's like the story of a friend bragging about how he caught this humongous fish, but it slipped away from his hands so the couldn't provide any concrete evidence. Umm, yeah ... sure.
@@AT-jm4dl don’t you think coaches have private videos of their skaters they haven’t released? Especially considering that was their main form of communication while he was in Japan…
There's another video now of Ilia landing the 4A cleanly, no step out.
How exciting! I saw that a few hours ago. I wasn't expecting it so soon! I can't wait to see it in competition!
Also Yuzuru's olympic attempt was better than Jnats one
maybe Malinin on another training video gave his "clean jump", but his performance at DOI with bow-legged rotations and lack of presentation as such is a spit to the audience
It would be better if he worked on the program and worked for the audience than to promote himself with a jump that he could not perform at the performance
@@mariapetrusevich4564 yeah, and his 4A lack of a rotation, for sure.
Por favor no hay comparación. YUZURU HANYU es un excelente deportista respeta las reglas y normas de las técnicas del deporte
Ilia's quad axel is by far better than Yuzuru's. Ilia's is fully rotated and he can land it on one foot on a clean running edge. Yuzuru has never got the full rotation and has never landed it on one foot. Look - all Yuzuru fans, Yuzuru is an amazing skater and he has left us with a fantastic legacy, but please give credit to that young man Ilia who has clearly landed the first quad axel in history. I'm sure Yuzuru would be the first to acknowledge Ilia's achievement.
Look, I am not interested in this young man, and not interested in 4A, it's just because Yuzu want to do it, I wish him success. Don't teach what fanyu should do and don't make a statement on behalf of Yuzu, who authorized you?
@@freda8430 I think your understanding of English is perhaps not sufficient to fully comprehend what I actually wrote. I didn't attempt to teach anyone and I didn't make a statement on behalf of Yuzuru. Please don't show your utter ignorance by coming on YT and making insulting statements when your level of English is so poor you simply didn't understand what I said.
@@npe1 you don't need so many useless words to explain yourself, you know and I know exactly what you mean.
And don't be a beggar asking for credit, be a man to earn respect, so embarrassing.
@@freda8430 I don't think you have a clue to be frank.
Hanyu mentioned he has never landed in practice in a post-Olympics interview. His attempts are still far compared to llia's attempts despite practising for years. His first attempt is underrotated and downgraded to a 3A and he landed on 2 feet, while his second attempt is again underrotated and he fell. Compared to llia's three attempts where the first only has a step-out and within a few days, the second one is near clean and after a few days, the third one is clean, not to mention how his landing is so much stable than Hanyu. llia will definitely land first, especially when he progresses so fast that it took him only a short time to train and he is landing 4A everyday now. ETA: Congrats to Quad God for landing first certified 4A on 15 September 2022! First skater to land 6 types of quads! History has been made for landing most difficult quad ever! Next challenge is quint jump!
especially when Ilya jumps sideways instead of flying forward. cheating Russian coaches works not only for girls
@@mariapetrusevich4564 Fanyu should not create lie. Go watch his latest 4A attempt at Japanese ice show practice for a close-up. Even his 3A are better than Hanyu. Skating forums, skaters, coaches and media all praised his 4A attempts. Hanyu's jumps have already regressed because of his constant practice in 4A.
@@sporeKAfan I watched his attempt, and the attempts of others, as well as his 3A, and dozens of 3A other skaters. what's the fanyu here? Russians love to cheat - that's a fact. it’s enough that many Russians themselves wrote about the 3A cheating technique a few years ago. both fans and specialists. I don’t mind at all if some skater jumps the first some quad or quintuple jump. but I don't like hype and cheating. and I don’t like dirty skating even more - I’m not specifically against Malinin, but in relation to those skaters who are noticed in this (even if the judges turn a blind eye to this)
@@mariapetrusevich4564 llia has much better jump technique with faster rotation and greater height and distance than Hanyu. Don't compare llia with the problematic Russian girls. You are obviously a fanyu when you go around praising Hanyu and can't see his weaknesses in jumps. Hanyu's jumps has already regressed because of his constant practice in 4A.
@@sporeKAfan I already said above, I don't care who lands what first. I am for clean technique and a good presentation. Ilya had an absolutely pathetic presentation at DOI 2022 in Japan, in my opinion. As a result, he could not land normally 4A, and did not show the program - consider that he ruined everything. About the feeling of jumping from the toe in the case of 4A - I have already said, and I will not refuse my words. Perhaps in the future it will improve and the sensations will be different. And mind you, I'm not saying he's bad at everything, he does have jumps with good technique. In the case of 4A, it looks more like PR and advertising.
To be the first if they can do it in competition not practice...
to all the fanyus out there, i hate to break it to you but yes, ilia malinin's quad axel is better than hanyus
@Kim Hana Highest elevation or not, Ilia nailed his 4A perfectly and that's the only fact XD
@@sy-ib2wm Write it when Malinin jumps 4A clear in an international competition. Then it will be officially recognized that he first on the world jumped 4A and will go down in history. Just because he jumped it in training doesn't mean anything. Several figure skaters train 4A and it will be important who will jump clear 4A in an international competition.
So OK, you fan Malinin, and maybe he'll jump it in the international competition. But it is quite possible that Hanyu or Shoma will succeed, or quite someone else.
Ilia's 4A is the best I've seen. But this video doesn't show Ilia's best 4A.
SkatingandMusic wrote that made this video "before Ilia's (clean 4A) video came out". So I write again:
I am looking forward to a new video with the QUAD AXEL comparison
performed by Hanyu and Malinin.
If anyone saw a clean 4A made during training by some other skater, except Ilia, I am ASKING for this video ! 🙏🙏🙏
Write to the person who made the video (SkatingAndMusic) "don't compare", not to me.
It's so OBVIOUS that a clean 4A does not guarantee a win !
And one more thing: did someone write "if Ilia can jump a perfect 4A, shouldn't he focus on another skills" ?
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Oh god what a toxic comment section it is..
Obsessed fans of Yuzuru , diminishing other skaters just to calm down their ego.. Seems like all of ur azzes r on fire watching their idol not being the first to do lmao
@GIFT I love you!
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착지가 되리라 믿어요.
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성취감은 대단할 거에요.
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❤❤❤ I'm so proud of them. They've worked so hard
Ilia just landed a quad axel almost perfectly! It was a little shaky on the landing, but fully rotated and landed on one foot!
Hanyu is more than 1/2 revolution short of the full 4.5.
In this video yes. In olympics it was close to q. So he needs less than 1/4 revolution to complete it.
@@keigotakami1741 Yes, I remember that after the Olympic LP, he said that when he was about to come out if the air to land the quad Axel, he said to himself, "ahh that's what it feels like .."....
Я просто в шоке от реакции фаню на 4А Ильи.Они тупо закрывают глаза на реальность и врут что Илья делает пол оборота предварительного вращения ,а Ханю не делает вообще.Для всех кто не знаком с техникой прыжка.Аксель прыгается с ребра поэтому его нельзя сделать без преротейшена.Но преротейшен Ильи как раз меньше чем у Ханю.Прыжок Малинина образец по всем параметрам,от отрыва до приземления ruclips.net/user/shortsZ9Yap7YQ2Tg?feature=share приятного просмотра
@GIFT настоящие глупцы это вы,закрывающие глаза только чтобы не видеть что любимый Ханю делает большее предварительное вращение.Таким как вы видео под нос сунули и показали что на 90 градусах Илья уже в воздухе,а Ханю только отрывается ото льда.Думаете дальше сможете распространять свои фейки?На вас уже все фк сообщество смотрит как на идиотов
@GIFT ответить нечего? 😂 попробуй еще раз посмотреть на аксель Ханю и не увидеть там преротацию
@ouch-pepporFanyus are stupid unicorns who don't understand anything about jump technique. It's impossible to perform an Axel without a 1/4 prerotation. And Ilya just prerotates 1/4. And if you compare him with Hanyu, his prerotation is greater, plus a large UR and overall poor jump technique and weak physical characteristics.
ジャンプの、踏切が違うと思います。比べられません。コーチは、正しいジャンプを教えるべきです。
Правильному акселю Ханю не научили да и физических данных у него для этого прыжка не было
Theres zero comparison...Ilia hits it clean more often than Hanyu does...I've seen NUMEROUS clips of Ilia hitting it perfectly, and the one championship show where he DID hit it clean in international competition..but I've yet to see footage of Hanyu landing it perfectly...ilia is the epitome of GOLD MEDAL PERFORMANCE
Where is Malinin's CLEAN 4A ?
I made this video before that video came out :)
OK. So I am looking forward to a new video with the QUAD AXEL comparison
performed by Hanyu and Malinin.
Right here fanyu.
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You have to remake this video now that Ilia landed the quad axel almost perfectly!!
honestly i think both are still underrotated :/ if you pause the video and draw a line through the skate, the landing should be on the same line but to the opposite side (or within a quarter rotation of that). It seems to me that Ilia's 4A is q, and hanyu's is
Please to be champion with tobe good personality not just can jump.
YH best from the best
Sadly it is true ilia was the one who has done it first there is no doubt that he is amazing but for me Yuzuru hanyu will always be the best
He just needs to close his elbows in. They couldn't be winged out any wider! Also, this video edit is horrible.
Yuzu can't do a quad axel. Even Keegan Messing has done a better attempt in practice. And Ilia had a clean 4A in practice less than a week after this one.
I made a sequel video with that clean 4a by ilia and a better attempt by yuzuru if you want to check it out :)
@Prologue Yuzu never did a quad axel, and that's what this video is about.
@Prologue What does he do that no one else can do?
@Prologue Oh, i understand now. Yuzuru has more fans than any other skater. So you're correct, no other skater has that. And it's very nice that you are one of his fans.
As for artistry, Jason Brown has more and is a better spinner. Patrick Chan had better artistry and edges by far. As for jumps, other skaters have much more difficulty.
@GIFT Okay sure, if that makes you feel better.
both jumps are wrong, this is ice figure skating, where is the speed? the landing both horrible not flow, THIS IS NOT GYMNASTICS, it have to have the same speed at the take off and the landing, first triple axel was landing on 1952 yes 70 years ago ???????????
You can’t even call the Japanese skaters jump a quad axel because half a rotation is done on the ice with the free leg touching down. It’s ridiculous to compare the both of them.