Honestly, at this point I’m just putting all of my faith into the fanbase. I’ve already seen some pretty good previews of fan made routes (Per example: Cologne - Dusseldorf) and locomotives/multiple units. I’ve given up all of my hope for DTG to be even slightly competent Edit: Or 3rd party devs for that matter. The only one I still have faith in is Just Trains
I don’t even feel like British or German players deserve to even request at this point. They literally get everything. German routes literally have 7-14 locos in a route British have a new route damn near every month, you see any TSW channel 2/3’s are literally begging to just get more US content and all we get is delays and cold shouldered. I agreed with all of your choices on this video
@@DC4260Productions I definitely was a bit aggressive with it but it was kinda my point was to be a bit too much because it feels like it’s already so much already. I mean hell UK is an island, 20 more dlcs and they’ll have completed the entire rail network 😂
The Amtrak F40s primarily ran on long distance services over routes that I don’t think would be that fun to drive on, unless there’s a lot of freight traffic. But you could add one of the short haul routes that they ran. Not sure which one but you could definitely find a good one if you look hard enough. And this one is just wishful thinking but you could also make a backdated version of the Boston to Providence route before the days of electrification and with the old Providence station, back when F40s ran trains between Boston and New Haven. As far as other stuff I’d like to see, I really want some sort of Shinkansen route. This is arguably the most iconic network of trains in the entire world, and it’s crazy we don’t have one in TSW yet. Even if you made an unlicensed route, that would still sell really well. Or even a remake of the China high speed network from TS Classic would be a really cool to have. And sticking with Asia, an urban Tokyo commuter route is also massively overdue. There are so many routes to choose from, and if they pick the right one and execute it well, it can easily be a banger. And this one will probably never happen, but as a NEC super fan, I want the entirety of it with all the trains that run on it. No exclusions anywhere, give me everything.
Union workshop is creating something Asian. The problem with going unbranded is that without a license, dtg might not have access to the train or be able to get sound recordings or ask them how the train works. Also not every operator wants to be in tsw because the train is their property and reputation after all. Regarding your comment about the nec, you would be correct. Dc to baltimore wouldn't happen because no marc. Philadelphia wouldn't happen because no septa. I don't know which license the other sections need
Your F40PH suggestion would be great for Boston sprinter as a 1990s version. New Haven to Boston didn’t get electrification until the late 90s. They could implement them with cajon pass with superliners
If I am being honest I would love for dovetail to get the Southern Pacific's Donner Pass into TSW4. Here is why: Allows for a interesting and famous route, challenging terrain, and unique and famous locomotives such as the Amtrak EMD F40PH, Southern Pacific EMD SD40T-2, and older locomotives such as the cab forward. This route has not been made for a dovetail games product (excluding mods) since it originally came out for train sim classic. I think this is a missed opportunity.
There are three locomotives that ive been dying to see are the New Jersey Transit ALP-45DP and/or ALP-46A with Comet IV and V coaches and cab cars... Ironically the ALP-45DP also runs in CANADA on the Exo Network. Something I would Love to see in TSW is the ENTIRE Exo Network not just with that specific type of locomotive also with the F59PH and the PHI variant as well
I Personally would just like to see any S-Bahn Berlin Train. I'd really like to see the S5 line from Berlin-Ostkreuz to Srausberg Nord with the diesel only line from Strausberg to Küstrin-Kietz. This line would have to include the DB BR 481/482 for the S-Bahn services and the Talent one and/or Pesa-Link for the Regional services. The S-Bahn services take 47mins for the route and the Regional 1h 15mins for their route.
I do hope DTG staff read user input with serious intent to learn from regarding future product development. The customer base is substantial and as train fans - hungry for more product. As one such hungry fan, I would appreciate ongoing improvements / additions to the existing routes along with the development of new routes. For USA routes, the LA - San Diego route rebuilt into TSW4 is a must do. I would also suggest the GTW/CN route from Chicago to Port Huron via Durand in Michigan. Tons of variety and interest there. The U4b 4-8-4 streamlined steam engine with vintage passenger stock would be an outstanding addition! British routes - the London Waterloo to Portsmouth route rebuilt into TSW4 with the Guildford New Line included with thrill me no end. I'm still desperately holding on to see slammer stock in appropriate period correct liveries appear on existing or new routes. DTG: please get aggresive in the licensing department to increase the variety of motive units and rolling stock. The competing sim companies have done quite well regarding this. " Coffee time ! "
The Amtrak F40ph in phase 3 is probably the most iconic American passenger locomotive out there. They could be found on pretty much all non-electrified routes in the 80s and 90s. Some suggestions on ones with frequent service: The Shoreline route (Boston to New Haven via Providence) The Springfield Line (Springfield to New Haven via Hartford) or the Surfline (Los Angeles to San Diego) Surfline in the 90s would be particularly interesting to me as Amtrak F40s and Dash 8s were paired with amfleets and metroliner cab cars. The cab cars moved east when the modern bi-levels took over. Other than that, the F40 could also be a stand alone add on with superliner cars and service layers on freight routes. Cajon Pass, Sand Patch, and Horseshoe Curve all would've seen F40s in the past, or a new route like Marias Pass in the BN era would be appropriate for F40s with superliners.
I would love to see more German passenger coaches, more American passenger coaches like MBTA bilevel including the cab car, Amtrak P42, etc.. And enough livery variation where possible and most important for me: the Railjet with Taurus push-pull configuration. Also some more Scottisch trains are welcome, but as we know DTG won't do anything.
My Top 5: 1) NS ICM Koploper (of course together with a Dutch route), 2) SNCF BB 7200 Nez Cassé to add some variety on the French Line, 3) NMCB Class 18/19 (together with a Belgian route), 4) Danish Class MF/IR4/IC2 with the Oresundtrain-Route from Copenhagen to Lund and 5) agree on the Class 9. Honorable mentions to Class 77 with PZB and/or FLIRTs with PZB/LZB
I dont get why dovetail didnt add the 91 in east coast mainline aling with the 66 and 801 as they could of added the 91 or hst . The hst would be easy as we all ready have 2 which would mean they just do liverys then the 91 coild also be added in its new livery and old one
I guess it comes down to what they had access to, idk. They wanted to bring something new modern and shiny. If they made a 91, the 801 probably wouldn't have been made and vice versa since they seem to only make 1 new train per dlc and possibly how much time it uses to
Being an American fan of transim world 4 The Southern Pacific would be a cool railroad to feasure. But my personal favorite would be the N&W as well giant engines. Are pretty cool. But the N&W also has some pretty obscure engines. Like 4-8-0 M2 automatic. But at this point. I've lost faith in dtg
paraparaumu to waikanae only singles right at the very end for the waikanae bridge, has been double track since the electrification in 2011... and perhaps being from wellington, the AM and auckland suburban network would be much more interesting i feel, especially once CRL is finished
I would have loved the cross city line to extend to Smethwick Galton Bridge so the class 323 could change ends and enter Soho Depot and also extend to Birmingham International so there is some variation also to add the 350 as it is stupid to only have 323s at Birmingham when it is one of the most diverse stations in the UK operated by West Midlands Railway, London Northwestern Railway, Cross Country and Avanti west coast served by class 323s, 350s, 170s, 172s, 196s, 220s, 221s, 390s, 730s and soon 805s and 807s.
Would also depend on if the train actually drives on the route. If it just acts as ai and drives off, it's not going to be worth a separate loco dlc so it's better to come as part of its own route. Of course licenses are first required
I think Wellington would be cool even Auckland but I would not trust dovtail to do it them selfs I would want it to be made by new Zealanders that know what the netwoeks and the areas details around the lines and people that have exsperince like the one from TSNZ
That is my main reason i have yet to buy from them anymore. I bought tsw3 at launch and after that i havent bout anything else. They have yet to make or add any american stuff other than the one that came with tsw 4. Maybe they will have a new American route by tsw5. They say they have a new usa dlc on the roadmap but we havent seen anything about it.
Boston sprinter literally a perfect example. Two yards, 30% of the entire track mileage being non electrified freight tracks, four sets of gp38-2’s and yet, not once do you get to use them despite them repackaging and reselling the route three friggen times. Every US route has 5-25 industries you don’t even get to touch and antelope valley was a big middle finger with the NPC sd40 literally switching industries yet all we got was four 2 part through runs, 6/8 of them literally at night and the routes lighting is so poor you can’t see jack
They dont suggestions offhand because 1 they are too lazy 2 they are too blinded by their own ego to ignore really wanted stuff/fitting stuff thats actually fecking easy to quickly make in like 1 hour solo 3 aswell as probly overcharging
To do all of these, they would need licenses from the operating companies. And thats easier said than done because DTG have no control over whether a company will let them use their likeness
Love to see a class 86 and class 90 with mk3 dvt for the west cost mainline or the great eastern mainline but dovetail just gives Britain electric ac units not locos
Victoria Line using the 1967 Stock & 2009 Stock Using Automatic Train Operation plus the Victoria Line Depot, Northern City Line out of Moorgate to Drayton Park using the 1938 Stock & Modern Version using the Class 313s/717s. PLEASE GET IT RIGHT!!!.
It's better to put it pre ato it doesn't turn into some video sim and you do absolutely nothing Ato might put people off since you don't touch any of the controls. There are players on the forums who have zero interest in that kind of stuff.
You're forgetting the fact that licenses are required. Dtg can't create anything without a license and if they proceeded without, they have legal consequences. Not every single train operator or country wants to be in tsw. Also expecting dtg to create the entire world by themselves is highly unrealistic. They don't have the budget or time or employees. Dtg isn't a triple a studio with millions of dollars of budget. 3rd parties have to fill the gap. Regarding your comment about more steam locos, not even the current small uk steam locos work properly because the simulation is poor so even if dtg did create other locos, it wouldn't work well and you would still be upset
No, I didn't forget about licenses. And I never expected DTG to literally create the entire world (nor did I intend to give off the impression that that's what I wanted). My point was that it's getting tiresome seeing the same two or three countries in TSW every time, regardless of whether or not they sell well, but I don't expect the motive power mentioned in this video to ever actually come to the game. As for steam locomotives, I'd rather see the simulation improved before DTG or a 3rd-party tries adding more steamers to the game, but I don't expect them to be competent enough to do that.
@@LC25avright but they still can't go outside the big 3 if they don't have any other licenses. The only other license dtg has outside of the big 3 is austria, switzerland (that is rivets speciality so dtg won't do), france (sncf might have only allow high speed trains) and scotland. Then you have the same problem again that they are only in another big 3. That's really it. They also aren't going to go unbranded and having no license means dtg can't get reference. How hard is it to understand no license = can't do. Plus they also have to create and simulate all the real things Dtg can't just pick a random country Morocco, Japan and India for example and just make it. That's not how licensing works.
Well maybe DTG should’ve thought about all these “licensing issues” before they named their game train sim WORLD, which implies you’re going to go bigger than a few countries and just make linear and bland routes.
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Honestly, at this point I’m just putting all of my faith into the fanbase. I’ve already seen some pretty good previews of fan made routes (Per example: Cologne - Dusseldorf) and locomotives/multiple units. I’ve given up all of my hope for DTG to be even slightly competent
Edit: Or 3rd party devs for that matter. The only one I still have faith in is Just Trains
The class 91 is a MUST
I don’t even feel like British or German players deserve to even request at this point. They literally get everything. German routes literally have 7-14 locos in a route British have a new route damn near every month, you see any TSW channel 2/3’s are literally begging to just get more US content and all we get is delays and cold shouldered. I agreed with all of your choices on this video
Well, they don't literally get everything from their respective countries, but I still understand the point you're making.
@@DC4260Productions I definitely was a bit aggressive with it but it was kinda my point was to be a bit too much because it feels like it’s already so much already. I mean hell UK is an island, 20 more dlcs and they’ll have completed the entire rail network 😂
The Amtrak F40s primarily ran on long distance services over routes that I don’t think would be that fun to drive on, unless there’s a lot of freight traffic. But you could add one of the short haul routes that they ran. Not sure which one but you could definitely find a good one if you look hard enough. And this one is just wishful thinking but you could also make a backdated version of the Boston to Providence route before the days of electrification and with the old Providence station, back when F40s ran trains between Boston and New Haven.
As far as other stuff I’d like to see, I really want some sort of Shinkansen route. This is arguably the most iconic network of trains in the entire world, and it’s crazy we don’t have one in TSW yet. Even if you made an unlicensed route, that would still sell really well. Or even a remake of the China high speed network from TS Classic would be a really cool to have. And sticking with Asia, an urban Tokyo commuter route is also massively overdue. There are so many routes to choose from, and if they pick the right one and execute it well, it can easily be a banger.
And this one will probably never happen, but as a NEC super fan, I want the entirety of it with all the trains that run on it. No exclusions anywhere, give me everything.
Union workshop is creating something Asian.
The problem with going unbranded is that without a license, dtg might not have access to the train or be able to get sound recordings or ask them how the train works. Also not every operator wants to be in tsw because the train is their property and reputation after all.
Regarding your comment about the nec, you would be correct. Dc to baltimore wouldn't happen because no marc. Philadelphia wouldn't happen because no septa. I don't know which license the other sections need
TRAIN SIM - YOU'RE WORLD... Good on ya, nice article as always.
Your F40PH suggestion would be great for Boston sprinter as a 1990s version. New Haven to Boston didn’t get electrification until the late 90s. They could implement them with cajon pass with superliners
The Class 91, MK4s and DVTs for the ECML, I can certainly concur
We need US or German steam locomotives
If I am being honest I would love for dovetail to get the Southern Pacific's Donner Pass into TSW4. Here is why: Allows for a interesting and famous route, challenging terrain, and unique and famous locomotives such as the Amtrak EMD F40PH, Southern Pacific EMD SD40T-2, and older locomotives such as the cab forward. This route has not been made for a dovetail games product (excluding mods) since it originally came out for train sim classic. I think this is a missed opportunity.
Any SP-era route would be fine my be, especially if it included the M.K. TE70-4S.
5:31 as an American railfan, this part gave me a chuckle
there's 2 class 91s in preservation. the 2nd one is 91120 on display at Crewe Heritage Centre :)
There are three locomotives that ive been dying to see are the New Jersey Transit ALP-45DP and/or ALP-46A with Comet IV and V coaches and cab cars... Ironically the ALP-45DP also runs in CANADA on the Exo Network. Something I would Love to see in TSW is the ENTIRE Exo Network not just with that specific type of locomotive also with the F59PH and the PHI variant as well
I Personally would just like to see any S-Bahn Berlin Train. I'd really like to see the S5 line from Berlin-Ostkreuz to Srausberg Nord with the diesel only line from Strausberg to Küstrin-Kietz. This line would have to include the DB BR 481/482 for the S-Bahn services and the Talent one and/or Pesa-Link for the Regional services. The S-Bahn services take 47mins for the route and the Regional 1h 15mins for their route.
I do hope DTG staff read user input with serious intent to learn from regarding future product development. The customer base is substantial and as train fans - hungry for more product. As one such hungry fan, I would appreciate ongoing improvements / additions to the existing routes along with the development of new routes. For USA routes, the LA - San Diego route rebuilt into TSW4 is a must do. I would also suggest the GTW/CN route from Chicago to Port Huron via Durand in Michigan. Tons of variety and interest there. The U4b 4-8-4 streamlined steam engine with vintage passenger stock would be an outstanding addition! British routes - the London Waterloo to Portsmouth route rebuilt into TSW4 with the Guildford New Line included with thrill me no end. I'm still desperately holding on to see slammer stock in appropriate period correct liveries appear on existing or new routes. DTG: please get aggresive in the licensing department to increase the variety of motive units and rolling stock. The competing sim companies have done quite well regarding this. " Coffee time ! "
I hope they add American steam, locomotive, and more American routes and Et4400 locomotives and Ac6000’s and Florida East Coast train routes
For the f40ph. The routes I'd like to see include the Southwest chief, the discontinued Pioneer, the California Zephyr, and/or the sunset limited.
I highly doubt will get the cab forward in game now don’t get me wrong I like the cab forward but getting sound for it will be hard
Maybe they could record the whistle from a preserved southern pacific loco and record exhaust sounds from a narrow gauge mallet or something
The Amtrak F40ph in phase 3 is probably the most iconic American passenger locomotive out there. They could be found on pretty much all non-electrified routes in the 80s and 90s. Some suggestions on ones with frequent service: The Shoreline route (Boston to New Haven via Providence) The Springfield Line (Springfield to New Haven via Hartford) or the Surfline (Los Angeles to San Diego) Surfline in the 90s would be particularly interesting to me as Amtrak F40s and Dash 8s were paired with amfleets and metroliner cab cars. The cab cars moved east when the modern bi-levels took over. Other than that, the F40 could also be a stand alone add on with superliner cars and service layers on freight routes. Cajon Pass, Sand Patch, and Horseshoe Curve all would've seen F40s in the past, or a new route like Marias Pass in the BN era would be appropriate for F40s with superliners.
Maybe for the Amtrak f40ph can be maybe Chicago to grand rapids
This is very good and half a day's finally make the game more interesting.
I would love to see more German passenger coaches, more American passenger coaches like MBTA bilevel including the cab car, Amtrak P42, etc.. And enough livery variation where possible and most important for me: the Railjet with Taurus push-pull configuration. Also some more Scottisch trains are welcome, but as we know DTG won't do anything.
My Top 5: 1) NS ICM Koploper (of course together with a Dutch route), 2) SNCF BB 7200 Nez Cassé to add some variety on the French Line, 3) NMCB Class 18/19 (together with a Belgian route), 4) Danish Class MF/IR4/IC2 with the Oresundtrain-Route from Copenhagen to Lund and 5) agree on the Class 9. Honorable mentions to Class 77 with PZB and/or FLIRTs with PZB/LZB
I dont get why dovetail didnt add the 91 in east coast mainline aling with the 66 and 801 as they could of added the 91 or hst . The hst would be easy as we all ready have 2 which would mean they just do liverys then the 91 coild also be added in its new livery and old one
I guess it comes down to what they had access to, idk. They wanted to bring something new modern and shiny. If they made a 91, the 801 probably wouldn't have been made and vice versa since they seem to only make 1 new train per dlc and possibly how much time it uses to
Good suggestions but favorite part has to be that THE MILWAUKEE ROAD sound board lol *Jersey screaming inside Watching that part*
Being an American fan of transim world 4 The Southern Pacific would be a cool railroad to feasure. But my personal favorite would be the N&W as well giant engines. Are pretty cool. But the N&W also has some pretty obscure engines. Like 4-8-0 M2 automatic.
But at this point. I've lost faith in dtg
On the subject of the N&W, I'd love to see 475 and 611 in the game.
The Class 91 still runs from London King's Cross Railway Station which I've spotted myself
paraparaumu to waikanae only singles right at the very end for the waikanae bridge, has been double track since the electrification in 2011... and perhaps being from wellington, the AM and auckland suburban network would be much more interesting i feel, especially once CRL is finished
I want to see an original Amtrak F40 but I want to see the variant with ditch lights
Defo like to see some GWR locos such as the Kings, Halls and Castles
I would have loved the cross city line to extend to Smethwick Galton Bridge so the class 323 could change ends and enter Soho Depot and also extend to Birmingham International so there is some variation also to add the 350 as it is stupid to only have 323s at Birmingham when it is one of the most diverse stations in the UK operated by West Midlands Railway, London Northwestern Railway, Cross Country and Avanti west coast served by class 323s, 350s, 170s, 172s, 196s, 220s, 221s, 390s, 730s and soon 805s and 807s.
Would also depend on if the train actually drives on the route. If it just acts as ai and drives off, it's not going to be worth a separate loco dlc so it's better to come as part of its own route. Of course licenses are first required
My personal choice is anything Australian (ie: Victorian North East or Western (both via Bacchus Marsh/Ballarat and Werribee/Geelong) lines)
I think Wellington would be cool even Auckland but I would not trust dovtail to do it them selfs I would want it to be made by new Zealanders that know what the netwoeks and the areas details around the lines and people that have exsperince like the one from TSNZ
That is my main reason i have yet to buy from them anymore. I bought tsw3 at launch and after that i havent bout anything else. They have yet to make or add any american stuff other than the one that came with tsw 4. Maybe they will have a new American route by tsw5.
They say they have a new usa dlc on the roadmap but we havent seen anything about it.
We also want routes where you can use all of the track, instead of just parts.
Boston sprinter literally a perfect example. Two yards, 30% of the entire track mileage being non electrified freight tracks, four sets of gp38-2’s and yet, not once do you get to use them despite them repackaging and reselling the route three friggen times. Every US route has 5-25 industries you don’t even get to touch and antelope valley was a big middle finger with the NPC sd40 literally switching industries yet all we got was four 2 part through runs, 6/8 of them literally at night and the routes lighting is so poor you can’t see jack
They dont suggestions offhand because
1 they are too lazy
2 they are too blinded by their own ego to ignore really wanted stuff/fitting stuff thats actually fecking easy to quickly make in like 1 hour solo
3 aswell as probly overcharging
To do all of these, they would need licenses from the operating companies. And thats easier said than done because DTG have no control over whether a company will let them use their likeness
Love to see a class 86 and class 90 with mk3 dvt for the west cost mainline or the great eastern mainline but dovetail just gives Britain electric ac units not locos
idk about the world part in tsw, I'd change it for Train Sim 1st World
You still used world in the title lol
@@potatoman451 touché
Victoria Line using the 1967 Stock & 2009 Stock Using Automatic Train Operation plus the Victoria Line Depot, Northern City Line out of Moorgate to Drayton Park using the 1938 Stock & Modern Version using the Class 313s/717s. PLEASE GET IT RIGHT!!!.
It's better to put it pre ato it doesn't turn into some video sim and you do absolutely nothing
Ato might put people off since you don't touch any of the controls. There are players on the forums who have zero interest in that kind of stuff.
Maybe they will do the masterton line so they can make some more bloody British shit
You're forgetting the fact that licenses are required. Dtg can't create anything without a license and if they proceeded without, they have legal consequences. Not every single train operator or country wants to be in tsw.
Also expecting dtg to create the entire world by themselves is highly unrealistic. They don't have the budget or time or employees. Dtg isn't a triple a studio with millions of dollars of budget. 3rd parties have to fill the gap.
Regarding your comment about more steam locos, not even the current small uk steam locos work properly because the simulation is poor so even if dtg did create other locos, it wouldn't work well and you would still be upset
No, I didn't forget about licenses. And I never expected DTG to literally create the entire world (nor did I intend to give off the impression that that's what I wanted). My point was that it's getting tiresome seeing the same two or three countries in TSW every time, regardless of whether or not they sell well, but I don't expect the motive power mentioned in this video to ever actually come to the game.
As for steam locomotives, I'd rather see the simulation improved before DTG or a 3rd-party tries adding more steamers to the game, but I don't expect them to be competent enough to do that.
bro is just defending dovetail from the hate
@@LC25avright but they still can't go outside the big 3 if they don't have any other licenses. The only other license dtg has outside of the big 3 is austria, switzerland (that is rivets speciality so dtg won't do), france (sncf might have only allow high speed trains) and scotland. Then you have the same problem again that they are only in another big 3. That's really it. They also aren't going to go unbranded and having no license means dtg can't get reference. How hard is it to understand no license = can't do.
Plus they also have to create and simulate all the real things
Dtg can't just pick a random country Morocco, Japan and India for example and just make it. That's not how licensing works.
Well maybe DTG should’ve thought about all these “licensing issues” before they named their game train sim WORLD, which implies you’re going to go bigger than a few countries and just make linear and bland routes.
@@albyliebenberg634world refers to being able to walk the world. Then what should they have named it.