David Harvey Lecture 1: Capital as Value in Motion
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2016
- This lecture is part of Distinguished Professor David Harvey's Lecture Series "Marx and Capital: The Concept, The Book, The History"
Lecture 1: Capital as Value in Motion
September 12, 2016, The Graduate Center, CUNY (City University of New York).
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My brain always feels rejuvenated listening to Prof. Harvey.
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Thank you! Subtitles please, even if automatic....
Harvey needs his own show 24/7... maybe repetition can help some of us.
Brilliant!
Why Google don´t add subtitles automaticly generated to this video?
There are subtitles availables?
Please, could anyone turn on the subtitles? even if automatic.
Hi. Is there a transcription of this?
Bro, you gotta ask ur crew turn your mic up! Consistently too quiet in your lecture vids. Love ur brain. Thanks for sharing!
We are sorry you are having trouble with the audio. The lectures sound fine on our end.
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Sounds fine to me.
@@CUNYGCVideo lol.. super passive agressive
Sounds pretty loud to me and I'm on my phone.
I'd love to get a PDF of the diagram shown at 17:46
You can find the diagram in the notes to this series...also very good series btw! ruclips.net/video/n5vu4MpYgUo/видео.html
The diagram is located in his article "Value in Motion" in The New Left Review.
When we talk of value in relation to commodities, value is not embedded in commodities. It is a spectral-like objectivity that can't be reduced to a single commodity but only exists when commodities are set in relation to each other. So the value embedded in a single commodity is paradoxical, because that single commodity by itself does not have a value, only when it is set in relation with other commodities in market exchange. So we can talk of the value OF a commodity presupposing the aforementioned relations, but never the value IN a commodity. The socially necessary labour-time needed to produce a commodity is an average when all the abstract social labours are related to each other in the world market. This has nothing to do with the concrete labour that is embedded in the commodity in so far as it creates use-values.
"This is strange because you really wanted to see Marx kind of departing from Adam Smith, not saying "I accept the hidden hand of the market", that's what he does in chapter two of volume one, he says "I accept the hidden hand of the market", and of course what he's going to do is to say that the hidden hand is the hand of the laborer, that's what he does further down the line.
The interesting thing about this is that whenever you ask any kind of conventional economist what do they think of Marx's labor theory of value, they'll say "well it's just a mystical kind of thing you know, it just happens you know, nobody can take that seriously", and than you say to them "well what about the hidden hand? Isn't that a mystical thing?", and they go "well no, that's the market, you know, that's the way the market is", and you say "why should I think of a market as being a hidden hand?".
And you have a little argument of that kind and it turns out the hidden hand is just as mystical as Marx's theory of value, if not more so because Adam Smith does not say who's hidden hand it is, whereas Marx is definitely saying "well it's the hidden hand of labor that you've got to be looking at here", and the fact that Adam Smith ignored what was happening to laborers for the most part..." - David Harvey
Old Marxist bla bla.
Its almost impossible to listen to this video, the enunciation is so bad its hard to make out a single work of what the man says. He should apply Marxism to his own dialogue ,,, it I cant hear you or make out what you are saying your talk is pretty useless ... its sounds like someone is mumbling along without any consideration to the audience ... what a waste ...
Here is a clip that might help in understanding David Harvey,
ruclips.net/video/_bdS2PjNAvg/видео.html
It is of Yuri Bezmenov who defected to the west from the former Marxist superpower the “ Soviet Union” remember that bit of stunning stupidity that went on and on for 69 years?
At 7.39 mentions half-baked intellectuals in the west, why would David Harvey flash to mind?
As amusing as David’s tail chasing verbiage is -really he can be quite funny-- it is still embeds Kooky Karl's wacky materalist religion and anti-Semitic premise, ( read Kooky Karl's 1844 essay" On The Jewish Question").
There will always be the sad “believers” (and victims of) in Karl’s anti -Semitic “economic/social” theories, and his kooky "theory" always fails. Recalling the marxist/socialist utopias of the USSR( remember that"SUPERPOWER"), East Germany (remember them), Albania, Yugoslavia (remember them), North Korea, Cambodia, Czechoslovakia (remember them), Romania, Somalia, Ethiopia, China, Cuba, Mugabe land, Venezuela all evidence the absolute and appalling failures of Kooky Karl's social/economic hate based envy/theft “theories”. Sadly these failed Marxist Socialist states killed, murdered, starved, impoverished hundreds of millions of innocent people (in violation of the Jewish /Christian 10 commandments). How any moral person could continue the sad joke of “Marxism” is amazing.
Dave here can be quite amusing ,really funny in his bourgeois manner …but his pseudo economic rhetoric is more geared to false hope, and emotional imaginings that justify an envy/theft culture than the real world realities of transcending authentic values (please read Hayek).
Dave here could of chosen to live in any of the afore mentioned socialist utopias, and can sill choose so, Cuba, North Korea?, but no he lives in the most capitalist society he could find. One could cry but it is often better to laugh, …“Life is a comedy to those who think, a tragedy to those who feel.” I would suggest adding a laugh track -
A very basic Reading List
Karl Marx, Racist, By Weyl Nathaniel
The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich von Hayek
A World Without Jews. By (the racist) Karl Marx
The Open Society and its Enemies by Karl popper
Marx's Religion of Revolution: Regeneration Through Chaos
by Gary North PhD.
Communist Eschatology by Francis Nigel Lee PhD.
Socialism by Ludwig Von Mises
William Forrestall
Congratulations on a kindergarten level argument. You sound like you are regurgitating the nonsense of Jordan Peterson lol. Let's list a load of states that implemented policies radically at odds with Marxist principles and use them as a straw man to condemn Marxism...
*Facepalm*
Hi Facepalm ,
Thank you for your observaions , yes kindergarten level argument is all one can do with poor old Karls rather incoherent ramblings.
Karl's ramblings are well known to model a rhetorically closed self-justifying system, subjective definitions, an absence of natural economic or independent price signals, lack of internal consistency, the pagan religion of “historical materialism”, sectarian intolerance, racism, anti-Semitism a series of rather glaring epistemological problems and so on. It was just so much egocentric nuttiness- still appeals to nutty people today.
If you have read Karl Marx, Racist, By Weyl Nathaniel you may have noted his quote from his 1844 essay “On the Jewish Question,”
"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man-and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general." A sad racists comment but one that exposes his obsession with Jews and money. The one thing that was consistant with Karl was his Anti-Semitism.
Lenin the mass murder and close follower of Karl , loved the quote “ Anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools” the inverse that “ Socialism is the anti-Semitism of the self- enpowering class” is just as true. At the end of the day the sad fact is that it is not possible to be a Marxist without being a racist.
Karl’s obscuring rhetoric of class, capital, bankers, false consciousness, and so on hid the anti-Semitic characteristic of his ‘theories” and how they impacted (particularly in the west) Jews more that others. Karl himself was a drunk and failure he spent most of his life in debt and blamed the Jewish people for his own economic failures, a petty and vindictive egotist - his “theories” were his idea of revenge, a revenge designed to attract cult like followers. His followers of course set up all sorts of efforts like the USSR a real "superpower", East Germany, Albania, Yugoslavia, North Korea, Cambodia, Czechoslovakia , Romania, Somalia, Ethiopia, China ( now who knows?) , Cuba, Mugabe land, Venezuela all modeled themselves as Marxists states and all evidence the absolute and appalling failures of what they claimed to be.
But all that being said ...or resaid... do you Facepalm know of any social construct that is a Marxist culture , really any size even a commune of 12 people, that has lasted any length of time? I would like a real example of a successful Marxist culture.
All the best
William
William Forrestall
I hope you know you're not funny... At all. I just want you to know that.
And as for your post, the very second you say that Marx is incoherent is the very second that you highlight yourself as either a troll or an imbecile. Agree with him or not, no scholar disputes that the man was a genius and his theories were coherent, as well as internally consistent.
"the pagan religion of “historical materialism”"
Pagan religion?!
What the hell are you talking about? Do you even know?!
"anti-Semitism"
Funny how the Bolsheviks didn't seem to notice. Or Rosa Luxembourg. Or any other of the prominent Jewish Marxists of the 20th century...
And granting that it's true, so what? This is nothing but an ad hominem fallacy. The guy was an asshole, I agree 100% so now that we have got that out of the way kindly stop wasting time with fallacious arguments and criticise his theories.
"a series of rather glaring epistemological problems and so on"
Ah, the vacuous allusions absent any specific details most commonly associated with those who are completely full of shit.
Elaborate or your point is de facto moot.
"Lenin the mass murder and close follower of Karl"
Lenin distorted Marxism into something unrecognisable. His policies (which unlike you I can discuss in detail) are testament to this.
"At the end of the day the sad fact is that it is not possible to be a Marxist without being a racist."
Possibly the most retarded statement ever uttered by anybody ever.
Where exactly does race enter into Das Kapital? Or the Manifesto? Or the Poverty of Philosophy?
What you are saying is utterly nonsensical because his theories are a study of CLASS conflict, race doesn't even enter into it you fucking imbecile.
"China ( now who knows?) , Cuba, Mugabe land, Venezuela all modeled themselves as Marxists states and all evidence the absolute and appalling failures of what they claimed to be. "
China, the fastest growing economy in the world you mean? And Cuba is still there last time I checked. Venezuela was doing fine under socialism until it was crushed by a US backed coup which plunged the population into poverty under the libertarian, fascist dictatorship that the US adored.
Not great examples to make your case, genius...
"do you Facepalm know of any social construct that is a Marxist culture , really any size even a commune of 12 people, that has lasted any length of time?"
Yeah, you just mentioned a few of them you dumb fuck. And you still have not actually addressed my argument, which is quite incredible considering the insane amount of garbage you just wrote. These states were not premised upon Marxist principles, they were all gross perversions of them so to say "the USSR was bad therefore Marxism is bad" is a non sequitur.
But hey who cares, I'm still laughing at your insanely stupid comment that it is impossible to be a Marxist and not be racist lol! Man you are fucking dumb!
Replace "Marxist" with "Nazi" and you have a point, but the very idea that it is impossible to take seriously Marx's theories which deal with class relations and political economy without being racist is so insanely fucking stupid I'm still giggling to myself!
Thanks for that, yo gave me a genuine LOL moment!
Yes of course - " you dumb fuck" is the best argument I have ever heard of, truly fantastic . You win !!!
Amyway I will add the reading list try starting with Karl Marx Racist by the once true beliver in kooky Karls nonsense Weyl Nathaniel .
Beyond that , I harbour no animosity towards you,
For a shorter read ... You might also want to consult the British historian Paul Johnsons, concise chapter on Karl in his book, Intellectuals, which goes into the details of kooky Karl’s fraudulent “research”, racism, distemper, poor hygiene and the squalid life he lead.
In the mean time please do not be too upset with my sense of what some might call “challenging humor”, trust me kooky old Karl doesn’t care, and you shouldn’t ether.
At the end of the day we are just 7 billion souls stumbling around a bit of existence seeking some morsel of truth, obviously we disagree on which direction the next stumble should lurch in , but beyond that I only wish you well .
All the best
William
A very basic Reading List
Karl Marx, Racist, By Weyl Nathaniel
The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich von Hayek
A World Without Jews. By Karl Marx
The Open Society and its Enemies by Karl popper
Marx's Religion of Revolution: Regeneration Through Chaos
by Gary North PhD.
Communist Eschatology by Francis Nigel Lee PhD.
Socialism by Ludwig Von Mises
Thanks but really.... but using these words
“you disingenuous prat…. Fuck off,…. you are a complete cretin not worth talking to…… shit for brains.”
does not help,... obviously we disagree, but beyond that I only wish you well .
All the best
William