A good friend of mine, is a well-known inner barrel maker (name's Grizzly Lab) here, in Italy. He makes a particular type of 6.01mm barrel with internal rifling, made on request by the specs of the original version. Maybe he can help me with this. Obviously with a Maple Leaf rubber, and all is now complete.
Amen, was stupid and got one, used it for one game and it was broken, didnt let me open the hop chamber because the dummy charging handle was broken so i had been using it with close to max hop up. returned it to my local shop and they were super nice about it, opened it up and took a look, one part inside it looked like it had been smashed with a tank. they said to me that they were gonna order spareparts and fix it, but i could also swap it if i wanted. so i got myself a CZ Scorpion EVO3 - A1 Proline - AEG instead with alot of goodies with it. i heard back from the shop a week later, they had ordered the spareparts for the mp7. expected delivery date is 17 desember 2021. this was back in mars LOL. Super happy that i desided to swap it for the evo, because the evo is amazing !
Highly agree... my gas options are TM Xtreme hicapa WE m4 completely upgraded... and KC02 completely upgraded as well.... with a good gas option it will outpreform aegs and compete with springers....
Yeah I’m only getting a gas VFC MP7 because of the true 1:1 scale… I’ve heard AEPs in general are crap but mix AEP with VFC and damn you’re practically begging for a FUBAR gun. Suppose it won’t matter to the VFC “fans” that’ll slap HPA engines in their MP7s though… although I guess at least that would give you a working one 😂
When the rage burns so fierce that it flips out to portrait mode. Remember when you said "these internals, in an Uzi", and we cheered, then went... "Wait, _VFC_ internals"?
i wish this video showed up while searching for mp7 aeg reviews. basically, the battery, motor and gearbox are all in one compartment. That is a ton of heat with nowhere to go.
I feel your Pain! I own a VFC MP7A1 From the Generation 1 . The Generation 1 had even worse issues regarding quality of the parts. But i never had to Deal with any repairs because i got it from a Friend that did an overhaul with shit Tons of Tuning parts . BUT im scared of the day that my hop-up rubber dies or something else 😅🙈🤦🏼♂️
Do you happen to know the scale difference between this and the tm aep? I’ve had two of these mp7s and I replaced the sector delay chip and tappet plate with the bullgear cnc versions which worked for about a year before the nozzle caught the bb follower. I think replacing the tappet, chip and nozzle with cnc parts would solve the internal problems, then cutting out the bb follower and detection system and redoing the microswitch system so the wires don’t catch on the body of it. Please do a whole video on this thing because there is very little information about it in English available.
Will there ever be a usable, durable, maintenance friendly, not overpriced, not over engineered, not-VFC MP7 on the market? The world may never know...
I wouldn't count on it. Aep's were never known to be reliable and thays what this basically is. The only one i can reccomend is theecho 1 gat because at least its a smaller v3 gearbox and takes standaed parts except the tappet plate but if you cant find the oem replacement, you can just file one down. Air nozzle sits lower than every other gun.
I bought one if these and 100 percent had all of these same problems. My trigger switch ended up breaking in half after replacing 4 hop rubbers. If you have this gun DONT use an mp7 GD suppressor and flashhider. They push the inner barrel into the hopup and fuck up your rubber
I had one of these almost as soon as they came out, the performance, both range and consistency, was outfuckingstanding, but luckily I sold it before I had to deal with any of the inevitable issues they were plagued with
had it for two weeks before the delayer switch cracked. Then had it fixed for a week before the tappet plate grooves for nozzle stripped. Had to buy Bullgear CNC tappet plate and delayer for it to fucking work and just to make sure I downgraded it a lot so it runs on a 7.4 instead of requiring a 11v. VFC absolutely had to know the fucking thing would chew itself up fast with the amount of power they shipped it outside of Asia. 1J version works great aside from being a total bitch to work with.
@@juhomakela2823 I have a 1J version and run it on 11.1 lipo. The only thing that I changed is the connector. 30-40 meters is its optimal range and that is just what I need love it to death I couldnt be more happy with it hope it stays that way :)
Dont get it. not worth at all ! had one and returned it one game after. instant issues " dummy charging handle" was broken and didnt let me change hop. spare parts ordered, expected delivery 17 desember 2021. this was back in mars, atleast the local shop was nice and let me swap to another airsoft. so i went with the evo3 a1 proline ! Super happy about that deal !
Exact reason i avoid aep's like this. At least the echo 1 gat is basically a smaller v3. Nothing special about it. Standard parts except the tappet plate but you can easily modify one. Just need to file it down a little because the air nozzle sits a little lower
That’s the problem with VFC. Their products are so not user friendly. As long as they can make their high end externals, fuck the insides. Cram all this nonsense in and let others worry about what problems it creates
Agreed. That's why the reworked the little bastard. Gen 2 I hear doesn't have proprietary gears. But for the rest looks like companies are gonna have to make new aftermarket parts.
@@NegativeAirsoftTech oh man. Bought it on HopUp. The guy said it was good like new, and it came in with the muzzle sliding off, shot fine for the first test, then all of a sudden, the mp7 is not turning on, it shoots like motor is grinding, and no BBs are coming out the front. 😬
Could be worse, at least you can get parts. Getting bits for a B&W M92B Beretta with a buggered up mag gas release valve and something else busted inside the rif itself... I just got lucky with mine after contacting Poseidon directly for a mag valve, getting the last one they had... And after all that hunting for one part it starts buggering up internally and double tapping on a single trigger pull which it is definately not meant to be doing... hoping it's not another proprietary part causing that... FFS.
lol i had one and returned it in one day after. the local shop ordered spareparts for the mp7, expected delivery date for spare parts are desember 17 2021 and this was returned in mars. they ordered spareparts from the orginal factory, send in alot of pictures etc aswell. the local shop was shooked when they teared it up and looked inside. he said this is not even worth fixing. atleast they let me swap out the mp7 for a evo3 a1 proline ! :)
So, why the fuck don´t people just get a tmp or mp9 by kwa/ ksc/ whoever build the airsoft tmp. Or alternatively, get them tm mp7, or just go pistol only. Will save weight, pounds and most importantly, the zip sound of the aeg won´t be there.
Alfonse has like 3 or 4 broken MP7s , most of which broken nozzles or broken tappet plates, due to the magazines and that last BB follower extension going into the hop chamber and nozzle slamming into it. 😐 ugg...such trash
yep i had a part inside mine that looked like it was ran over by a tank, used it for one game, i think it was the tappet plate but not sure, my local shop ordered sparepart and its expected delivery is 17 des 2021... this was returned back to them in mars. glad they let me swap it to a evo3 a1 proline.. first game with the mp7 i was super stooked. it was overhopping abit when i first got it with 0.28bb, so when i was gonna open up to fix the hop, the dummy charging handle was stuck so it didnt even let me fix the hop. instant issues out of the box. atleast my local shop was super nice about it. and they even said this is not the first one they have got back in return lool xD
Fkin disgusting VFC... as a tech ive always wondered why others hate them.... now i know living vicarioisly through your tech atrocities.... god speed brother
I just wanted an authentic baby shit green SA58.... scheduled for a call 5 months ago... I know you're busy but... Rhodesia brah?!, make pretty fal desgusting plz
Disclaimer: Not sponsored by VFC
Parts that aren't proprietary:
- Bushings
- deans connector
- uhhh maybe some gearbox screws maybe?
You can use a G&G green bucking.
A good friend of mine, is a well-known inner barrel maker (name's Grizzly Lab) here, in Italy. He makes a particular type of 6.01mm barrel with internal rifling, made on request by the specs of the original version.
Maybe he can help me with this.
Obviously with a Maple Leaf rubber, and all is now complete.
This makes a Well R4 look refined and practical.
If you can find a R4 they're great, TM compatible aep gearbox
Taiwangun has well R4s
Short and sweet much like the life of a vfc 🤣
You had me with that title for second. Then I realised it's a VFC
1:20 shiiiiiiiiiit that sucks.
All of a sudden, my GG raider doesnt seem so disappointing lol.
Amen, was stupid and got one, used it for one game and it was broken, didnt let me open the hop chamber because the dummy charging handle was broken so i had been using it with close to max hop up. returned it to my local shop and they were super nice about it, opened it up and took a look, one part inside it looked like it had been smashed with a tank. they said to me that they were gonna order spareparts and fix it, but i could also swap it if i wanted. so i got myself a CZ Scorpion EVO3 - A1 Proline - AEG instead with alot of goodies with it. i heard back from the shop a week later, they had ordered the spareparts for the mp7. expected delivery date is 17 desember 2021. this was back in mars LOL. Super happy that i desided to swap it for the evo, because the evo is amazing !
Naming and praising the shop might be an idea, given how exceptional that is.
unironically just run gas MP7s, learning to deal with gas is much easier than dealing with this
Highly agree... my gas options are TM Xtreme hicapa WE m4 completely upgraded... and KC02 completely upgraded as well.... with a good gas option it will outpreform aegs and compete with springers....
Yeah I’m only getting a gas VFC MP7 because of the true 1:1 scale… I’ve heard AEPs in general are crap but mix AEP with VFC and damn you’re practically begging for a FUBAR gun.
Suppose it won’t matter to the VFC “fans” that’ll slap HPA engines in their MP7s though… although I guess at least that would give you a working one 😂
@@barghest9810 you can’t even hpa thing as far as I know. Powair6 does somehow but I have no clue how they did it.
@@robckuch7228 i did it by myself. It works. No need P6. Also they dont give any informations xD
Hahahah, I had to find my comment on your July 6th 2019 video about this replica. I was surprised of not hearing a rant then, but time paid off xD
Yeah, initially I was impressed.
Luke i now own a TM MP7GBB and learning how to use it
When the rage burns so fierce that it flips out to portrait mode.
Remember when you said "these internals, in an Uzi", and we cheered, then went... "Wait, _VFC_ internals"?
i wish this video showed up while searching for mp7 aeg reviews.
basically, the battery, motor and gearbox are all in one compartment. That is a ton of heat with nowhere to go.
If think it just needs some ptfe tape personally!
I feel your Pain! I own a VFC MP7A1 From the Generation 1 . The Generation 1 had even worse issues regarding quality of the parts. But i never had to Deal with any repairs because i got it from a Friend that did an overhaul with shit Tons of Tuning parts . BUT im scared of the day that my hop-up rubber dies or something else 😅🙈🤦🏼♂️
Do you happen to know the scale difference between this and the tm aep? I’ve had two of these mp7s and I replaced the sector delay chip and tappet plate with the bullgear cnc versions which worked for about a year before the nozzle caught the bb follower. I think replacing the tappet, chip and nozzle with cnc parts would solve the internal problems, then cutting out the bb follower and detection system and redoing the microswitch system so the wires don’t catch on the body of it. Please do a whole video on this thing because there is very little information about it in English available.
The VFC is 1:1. The TM is smaller.
C’mon CYMA make one already.
Saw the title, wasn't disappointed 😂
34 seconds - 'I fucked it off' - made my day!
Oddly enough I was thinking about getting one of these to go with my MP5 AEG, won't bother now.
That BB detector is where I got stuck, had the same idea to just bridge the fucker 🤣
I'm glad I cancelled the order for the AEG version and went with the GBB 😅
Damn, wish there was a good mp7 aeg out there
Is this a gen 1 or gen 2?
Bought one, love it, haven't skirmished with it though
Even with all that.... I do quite want one. If only the TM AEP was full size :(
Will there ever be a usable, durable, maintenance friendly, not overpriced, not over engineered, not-VFC MP7 on the market? The world may never know...
Powair6 sells a hpa conversion of the VFC mp7 I think. It ain't cheap tho.
I wouldn't count on it. Aep's were never known to be reliable and thays what this basically is. The only one i can reccomend is theecho 1 gat because at least its a smaller v3 gearbox and takes standaed parts except the tappet plate but if you cant find the oem replacement, you can just file one down. Air nozzle sits lower than every other gun.
kwa makes a gbb one you can find it super cheap nowadays id just reinforce the back end of the gbb and upgrade hop up bucking
Makes me glad I went for the TM MP7 GBB
Is that the 1st or 2nd version? Apparently it's an improved AEG ( airsoft newbie here!)
Dunno
@@NegativeAirsoftTech the gen 2 has a hole on top of it to release the ARL in the event of a lockup.
@@robckuch7228 first gen has the hole second gen has the hole plugged with a metal rod you push in to release
I bought one if these and 100 percent had all of these same problems. My trigger switch ended up breaking in half after replacing 4 hop rubbers. If you have this gun DONT use an mp7 GD suppressor and flashhider. They push the inner barrel into the hopup and fuck up your rubber
Greate job, thank You Sir!
I had one of these almost as soon as they came out, the performance, both range and consistency, was outfuckingstanding, but luckily I sold it before I had to deal with any of the inevitable issues they were plagued with
Would you recommend VFC?
Sticking with CYMA and LCT branded guns.
mine still works . hoping for the best
AK is love. AK is life. Embrace the AK .
Had it for 1-2 years a lot of bbs were fired from it and I never had an issue...
had it for two weeks before the delayer switch cracked. Then had it fixed for a week before the tappet plate grooves for nozzle stripped. Had to buy Bullgear CNC tappet plate and delayer for it to fucking work and just to make sure I downgraded it a lot so it runs on a 7.4 instead of requiring a 11v. VFC absolutely had to know the fucking thing would chew itself up fast with the amount of power they shipped it outside of Asia. 1J version works great aside from being a total bitch to work with.
@@juhomakela2823 I have a 1J version and run it on 11.1 lipo. The only thing that I changed is the connector. 30-40 meters is its optimal range and that is just what I need love it to death I couldnt be more happy with it hope it stays that way :)
Thanks, you saved me money and frustration, though I don't really trust VFC at all.
I guess I'll buy a Well R44 instead.
is that the gen1 or 2?
Is the gen 2 one any better?
No
Can't imagine why a store I know that sells these specifically says they won't warranty them at all
Reminds me just how fun the change of hop rubber was with TM uzi aeg 😅
Don't...
@@NegativeAirsoftTech Are you reconsidering that "These internals, but in an Uzi" request yet?
@@rogerborg Measured whilst the gearbox was our, way too tall
I understand this I personally own one and I will work on all of my guns except my mp7 because they are a nightmare internally
What’s your thoughts on elite force mp5k
It’s basically a cyma so it’s fine just a tad overpriced due to licensing.
Daaaaaaamn
Wish I hadn’t got one now
Man people should just get the gbbr version abs be happy with their fifty rounds and run factor
How many rounds have gone through it?
Tappet plates tend to snap after aproximately half a year of use with most users
Less than 50....
@@NegativeAirsoftTech I guess we know what VFC stands for then
@@TheKeo238 very fucking crap
Well ... I just went to : ''VFC MP7 is the only one I want" - to : "God Damn it"
Dont get it. not worth at all ! had one and returned it one game after. instant issues " dummy charging handle" was broken and didnt let me change hop. spare parts ordered, expected delivery 17 desember 2021. this was back in mars, atleast the local shop was nice and let me swap to another airsoft. so i went with the evo3 a1 proline ! Super happy about that deal !
Just get the gas version, they’re better than the AEG/AEP
is there a good ump45 replica for airsoft
Double Eagle & gate aster v3
Exact reason i avoid aep's like this. At least the echo 1 gat is basically a smaller v3. Nothing special about it. Standard parts except the tappet plate but you can easily modify one. Just need to file it down a little because the air nozzle sits a little lower
Bloody good gun too
well thank you for giving me this before i bought one, i guess ill go with the gas one then, cus i want me an MP7
That’s the problem with VFC. Their products are so not user friendly. As long as they can make their high end externals, fuck the insides. Cram all this nonsense in and let others worry about what problems it creates
Agreed. That's why the reworked the little bastard. Gen 2 I hear doesn't have proprietary gears. But for the rest looks like companies are gonna have to make new aftermarket parts.
@@setsuna200 this has 4 proprietary gears
Why does it even have 4 gears? There is literally no need for that nonsense! Just design it properly.
@@Spollekop one acts as a sector & a cam!
Yay Weird Gearbox Videos!
If only CYMA made Mp7's. But knowing Cyma they will soon.
Licensing from HK will be a pain in the Ass. We wont be able to get them easily in the USA. Might be able to get it imported but IDK.
VFC: Very fucking crap
I can hear you sobbing into your wine luke
Is it the first or gen 2
Dunno
@@NegativeAirsoftTech is it a button on top of the rail second closest to the charging handle? If so it's a gen 2
Does it really matter if it’s gen 1 or 2? I’d rather $hit in my hands and clap than own one.
@@kenba96 yes, button
@@NegativeAirsoftTech ait then they did not improve the gen2 much
I’m scared. I have to open mine up now after getting scammed buying one that’s used
Where from?
@@NegativeAirsoftTech oh man. Bought it on HopUp. The guy said it was good like new, and it came in with the muzzle sliding off, shot fine for the first test, then all of a sudden, the mp7 is not turning on, it shoots like motor is grinding, and no BBs are coming out the front. 😬
@@selectchris Sounds like most VFC MP7 AEG's chap
Guess I will stick to my Gbb variant then
400euro or more?
Could be worse, at least you can get parts. Getting bits for a B&W M92B Beretta with a buggered up mag gas release valve and something else busted inside the rif itself... I just got lucky with mine after contacting Poseidon directly for a mag valve, getting the last one they had...
And after all that hunting for one part it starts buggering up internally and double tapping on a single trigger pull which it is definately not meant to be doing... hoping it's not another proprietary part causing that... FFS.
lol i had one and returned it in one day after. the local shop ordered spareparts for the mp7, expected delivery date for spare parts are desember 17 2021 and this was returned in mars. they ordered spareparts from the orginal factory, send in alot of pictures etc aswell. the local shop was shooked when they teared it up and looked inside. he said this is not even worth fixing. atleast they let me swap out the mp7 for a evo3 a1 proline ! :)
Please send this Umarex so that they see what shi...... they made
So, why the fuck don´t people just get a tmp or mp9 by kwa/ ksc/ whoever build the airsoft tmp.
Or alternatively, get them tm mp7, or just go pistol only. Will save weight, pounds and most importantly, the zip sound of the aeg won´t be there.
So what your saying is get a ggb mp7
That's why I got the gbb version and loving it. Why are VFC aeg's so shit compared to their gas blowbacks?
Their absolute obsession of making proprietary parts and likely an RnD room that smells like crack.
their QC and design sense on GBBRs took a nosedive in 2020 and I've yet to see it recover
Non issue if the parts where ready available. Other than the bill for the customer of course.
i agree
😃😄😁😆😅 5 Smiles
Bum sausage
After about working on 100 of these, I said f them to hell.
VFC making custom shite since their start, just to F repairing them
Alfonse has like 3 or 4 broken MP7s , most of which broken nozzles or broken tappet plates, due to the magazines and that last BB follower extension going into the hop chamber and nozzle slamming into it. 😐 ugg...such trash
Yup, that's why I removed it.
23.9mm nozzles by zci
yep i had a part inside mine that looked like it was ran over by a tank, used it for one game, i think it was the tappet plate but not sure, my local shop ordered sparepart and its expected delivery is 17 des 2021... this was returned back to them in mars. glad they let me swap it to a evo3 a1 proline.. first game with the mp7 i was super stooked. it was overhopping abit when i first got it with 0.28bb, so when i was gonna open up to fix the hop, the dummy charging handle was stuck so it didnt even let me fix the hop. instant issues out of the box. atleast my local shop was super nice about it. and they even said this is not the first one they have got back in return lool xD
Fkin disgusting VFC... as a tech ive always wondered why others hate them.... now i know living vicarioisly through your tech atrocities.... god speed brother
There's probably a reason why the warranty process for these pieces of garbage is to just replace the entire gun wholesale.
*laughs in TM GBB* ............ *cries in £40 per mag*
You can get the Tm mags for as low as £34, about £6 more than the aeg mags.
I just wanted an authentic baby shit green SA58.... scheduled for a call 5 months ago... I know you're busy but... Rhodesia brah?!, make pretty fal desgusting plz
might aswell shit in your hand smear the shit on the inside of the gearbox, put the gearbox in the gun it is now VFC spec
so seen no one esle has the balls to talk about the apache so we turn to you again @Negative Airsoft
Don't even get me started on the fucking price tag for that bullshit
100% agree gun is straight trash
overpriced product lol!