Well this is not rocket sience, but there is quite a few things to have in mind when doing this with no templates, and this video includes all you need to know about it.. :D
@@HearGear when I was young I found an old Floyd bridge and I totally thought I could Eddie my guitar into god tier territory. Needless to say it did not go right even just replacing the previous trem and route. 🤣 did I measure anything? Not at all 🤦🏽♂️
Another killer video by Wills Easy Guitar!! Wills the man you make it look so easy Will, I have said it before and I’ll say it now nobody does guitar repair and guitar building videos the way you do.Excellent Will glad to see you putting out new videos glad to have you back.
One of the best guitar videos I've seen in a long time! Very informative! I'm subscribing, can't wait to see more! I felt like I was taking and class. You're a great teacher! 👍🏻🎸
I really love recessed Floyd type bridge cavities, less need to an angled neck, less need for a higher neck heel to get the neck a little higher than usual. it would even bee possible to get away with just 2-3 degree neck angle when building Les Paul with carved top due and floyd type of bridge and it's recessed routing for the tremolo. Even if I prefer routing templates or using my CNC it´s actually pretty good to have this knowledge how do do this with no template at all.. thanks for a great video.
I have been watching you for years. I everything I know about guitar is because of you. Would love to see a video on how to restore old hardware, chrome and painted. Thank you so much!
I've been watching your videos since the begining of time basically. Lost track a little bit during the tonewood drama and your health issues turning the channel into something that wasn't my cup of tea but i'm glad to see you back doing what you do best. Welcome back Will.
the first time I did that I was about 17 or 18 years old. I was just lucky that it turned out good - now you can look it up at RUclips! That’s perfect!
This is how I installed my trem except I did it on another piece of wood that I turned into a template, that way it didn’t matter if I made a mistake and I had a template at the end of the day.
I've never played a Floyd, only Strat vibratos. Considering installing one in my Warlock. My 1st guitar that's become a project piece. Thank for the knowledge brotha!!!
Another Great video Will. I do ALL of my routes this way to ensure (like you point out w/different trems/sizes) the integrity of the route. They come in many sizes and although they look very close Never assume! I learned this from you many moons ago. Thank you Will as always Gtsy.
Amazing tutorial. I've built a Les Paul, but now I'm thinking in installing a FR instead of a hard tail and a Tune-o-matic. And this was exactly what I was looking forward. I need to also look forward on how to carve the rear part and how deep I shold go. I'm an amateur building guitars, and this will be my first FR. Thank you so much. greetings from Spain
I wish I knew this when I was a kid 😂 I had a 6 point trem strat copy and wanted a cool old Floyd I found to drop in. Man oh man were my posts off enough to ruin the intonation and not sit evenly 😂 🤦🏽♂️ lessons were learned!
Good job using the drill press for the studs and savy thinking with the makeshift template. I myself have abandoned the router for Floyd installs except if i have to do back cavity carving.. the chisel has just been the safest & most accurate for me on the bridge & locking nut installs nowdays. Good video tho and good work!
There's a lot of great info in this video Will, which will transpose over to other styles of bridges too. Great idea using the double sided tape and scrap to make a template. Although it's only relevant if you have a flat guitar. Carved tops are more of a challenge.
Would love to see you cryo treat a floyd base plate on this channel. Just so that more people know it's a cheap easy option to improve the life of those knife edges by a small amount. Even dry ice and denatured alcohol can give a small improvement, even though it's about a hundred degrees warmer than liquid nitrogen, because it can still convert some of that austenite into martensite. To get any significant amount of fine carbide precipitation you'd need nitrogen. (afaik anyway) A floyd rose has the exact type of mechanical wear that cryo treatment is good for.
Thanks mate, been thinking about adding some floyds to my old bangers. Now i know how to do it PROPERLY. LOVE ALL your vids man. Hope you're doing well....
I've only built three guitars. Haven't put a trem on any of them yet. Kinda working my way up to it. Each one being a one off, l don't have any templates to speak of. So l use the scrap wood method you just laid out. It's worked out pretty well so far. For the neck pocket in particular, I've shimmed my routing guide with a layer or two of tape. Im paranoid about routing the pocket oversized. I'll route it, check the pocket. Should be too tight. So l pull a layer of tape and go around again. Sneaking up on it with each pass and layer of tape removed. I realize it's probably an inefficient way of doing things. But untill l get a little more skilled and confident, it's gonna have to do. I'm broke as Hell. Literally CAN NOT afford to make the mistake of a oversized neck pocket. To me it seems that's the ONE mistake l can't see a way to overcome. Yet. You're videos have been a tremendous help and inspiration to me Will. Thanks for all you've done.
Hey Dr. I really enjoy your channel I even bought a video from you years ago to help me memorize all the notes on the entire fret board..so Thankyou for that. Anyways my question is , I just purchased a 1984 usa fender with a Kahler Killer 2700 trem. Will do I have to do some drilling/routing to change that to a Floyd rose trem? My first fender electric. I’ve owned nothing but deans and a few Washburns in the past. Looking forward to hearing from you. And do you do this kind of work for paying customers?
I have never installed that bridge before, but by looking at it, it seems fairly straight forward. the posts you will probably have to move. just do a bunch of measurements like this video and it will tell you what needs to be done.
Thank you for taking the time to help us! Question: How do you start off setting the individual saddles for every string? How do we assume that the settings that worked for the previous guitar will work for the new one? Hope this makes sense, thanks!
yes, and it is not what one would think but there is truth to it. YOu have to alter your way of thinking and reduce stress, anger, and learn to let things go. Check out Dr. Gabor Mate and auto immune diseases are related to unresolved emotional trauma.
@WillsEasyGuitar I completely agree. Chronic stress from a prior job is what caused a host of symptoms for me 2 years ago. I've had about 85% under control for a while now. I believe it's important to be your own advocate and educate yourself.
I wonder why some FR look like it rests flat on the body and didn’t need to lower the surface with the router. I guess it depends on the finger board’s height and angle but how shall I measure that height ? i.e. : at which height should the cords be from the frettes ? I am building a setup with a Strats Squier and an aftermarket neck.
Hey Will, hope your doing okay? When you file the slots in the nut, if you have a high E thats a 9, do you use a file thats a 9 or do you use a file thats a 10??? What do you do with all the other strings?? Just wondering, as one would need like 6 to 10 or more files which can get stupid crazy expensive?? Have you ever heard of some one making their own using feeler guages that one filed teeth into?? Thx.
@@gm-lb9oe scale length is the distance from the nut to the 12th fret doubled. That determines the distance from the nut to the bridge saddle. If it's not correct for the neck being used, the instrument won't intonate properly and it won't sound right. The frets are spaced differently on those two neck scale lengths.
Just to clarify; why did you put the front edge of the bridge saddles in the 25.5" mark? Shouldn't it be that it's the edge of the point where the strings rest on the bridge that should be in the 25.5" mark? Because an FR bridge isn't exactly like a Strat bridge where the edge of the bridge saddles are where the strings actually rest. In an FR bridge, the strings kinda rest around 1/2" further back (and higher) of the saddles. I'm no expert on guitars, but it seems that you just made an FR guitar setup at 26.0" scale length (approximately).
Will's Easy Guitar..If you wanna do a clip on ''How to install a Floyd Rose tremolo without a template''...it would be nice if you actually had a Floyd Rose trem to install...just saying...
finally someone who knows what he's doing
Well this is not rocket sience, but there is quite a few things to have in mind when doing this with no templates, and this video includes all you need to know about it.. :D
@@HearGear when I was young I found an old Floyd bridge and I totally thought I could Eddie my guitar into god tier territory. Needless to say it did not go right even just replacing the previous trem and route. 🤣 did I measure anything? Not at all 🤦🏽♂️
Very amazing video. Direct to the point no BS no overwhelming audio track. SIMPLE and UNDERSTANDABLE!
Another killer video by Wills Easy Guitar!! Wills the man you make it look so easy Will, I have said it before and I’ll say it now nobody does guitar repair and guitar building videos the way you do.Excellent Will glad to see you putting out new videos glad to have you back.
I’m glad you’re back at making videos Will, hope all is well and can’t wait to hear your new album!
It is a pleasure to see you back!! great tutorial on what can be an intimidating mod!
The best video for installing a Floyd rose on RUclips 👏
One of the best guitar videos I've seen in a long time! Very informative! I'm subscribing, can't wait to see more! I felt like I was taking and class. You're a great teacher! 👍🏻🎸
I really love recessed Floyd type bridge cavities, less need to an angled neck, less need for a higher neck heel to get the neck a little higher than usual. it would even bee possible to get away with just 2-3 degree neck angle when building Les Paul with carved top due and floyd type of bridge and it's recessed routing for the tremolo. Even if I prefer routing templates or using my CNC it´s actually pretty good to have this knowledge how do do this with no template at all.. thanks for a great video.
Good to have you back, Will. Hope your health has improved. Looking forward this album of yours! Cheers!
I have been watching you for years. I everything I know about guitar is because of you. Would love to see a video on how to restore old hardware, chrome and painted. Thank you so much!
Crazy that he only has 12 videos that I see.
@@Living_EDventures yeah many videos were deleted
I've been watching your videos since the begining of time basically. Lost track a little bit during the tonewood drama and your health issues turning the channel into something that wasn't my cup of tea but i'm glad to see you back doing what you do best.
Welcome back Will.
your build videos are awesome
I appreciate that!
the first time I did that I was about 17 or 18 years old. I was just lucky that it turned out good - now you can look it up at RUclips! That’s perfect!
This is how I installed my trem except I did it on another piece of wood that I turned into a template, that way it didn’t matter if I made a mistake and I had a template at the end of the day.
I've never played a Floyd, only Strat vibratos. Considering installing one in my Warlock. My 1st guitar that's become a project piece. Thank for the knowledge brotha!!!
Hey Will.
Missed you mate, glad to see you back.
Where's all your old videos gone.
Another Great video Will. I do ALL of my routes this way to ensure (like you point out w/different trems/sizes) the integrity of the route. They come in many sizes and although they look very close Never assume! I learned this from you many moons ago. Thank you Will as always Gtsy.
So good you're back.
Amazing tutorial. I've built a Les Paul, but now I'm thinking in installing a FR instead of a hard tail and a Tune-o-matic. And this was exactly what I was looking forward. I need to also look forward on how to carve the rear part and how deep I shold go. I'm an amateur building guitars, and this will be my first FR.
Thank you so much. greetings from Spain
@bielpiero consider doing the stock tune-o-matic and tailpiece and put an FRX Floyd Rose on it.. you'll get a lot more sustain and tone
I wish I knew this when I was a kid 😂 I had a 6 point trem strat copy and wanted a cool old Floyd I found to drop in. Man oh man were my posts off enough to ruin the intonation and not sit evenly 😂 🤦🏽♂️ lessons were learned!
Good job using the drill press for the studs and savy thinking with the makeshift template. I myself have abandoned the router for Floyd installs except if i have to do back cavity carving.. the chisel has just been the safest & most accurate for me on the bridge & locking nut installs nowdays. Good video tho and good work!
Thank you Mr. Gelvin
There's a lot of great info in this video Will, which will transpose over to other styles of bridges too. Great idea using the double sided tape and scrap to make a template. Although it's only relevant if you have a flat guitar. Carved tops are more of a challenge.
Would love to see you cryo treat a floyd base plate on this channel. Just so that more people know it's a cheap easy option to improve the life of those knife edges by a small amount. Even dry ice and denatured alcohol can give a small improvement, even though it's about a hundred degrees warmer than liquid nitrogen, because it can still convert some of that austenite into martensite. To get any significant amount of fine carbide precipitation you'd need nitrogen. (afaik anyway) A floyd rose has the exact type of mechanical wear that cryo treatment is good for.
Thanks mate, been thinking about adding some floyds to my old bangers. Now i know how to do it PROPERLY. LOVE ALL your vids man. Hope you're doing well....
Good job Will, we missed you buddy!
This sort of video is exactly why im subscribed! Thanks Will 🤟
Hey man, I saw ya on the Navage sinus commercial.
Good job!
Will! Glad to see you posting again.
I've only built three guitars. Haven't put a trem on any of them yet. Kinda working my way up to it. Each one being a one off, l don't have any templates to speak of. So l use the scrap wood method you just laid out. It's worked out pretty well so far. For the neck pocket in particular, I've shimmed my routing guide with a layer or two of tape. Im paranoid about routing the pocket oversized. I'll route it, check the pocket. Should be too tight. So l pull a layer of tape and go around again. Sneaking up on it with each pass and layer of tape removed. I realize it's probably an inefficient way of doing things. But untill l get a little more skilled and confident, it's gonna have to do. I'm broke as Hell. Literally CAN NOT afford to make the mistake of a oversized neck pocket. To me it seems that's the ONE mistake l can't see a way to overcome. Yet.
You're videos have been a tremendous help and inspiration to me Will. Thanks for all you've done.
Don't be scared bud it's just wood, you can always practice on a scrap before you rout your actual body! Just follow what Will did in this video!
Some of the most important info right form the start. Find your center and neck/string-line.
Hey Dr. I really enjoy your channel I even bought a video from you years ago to help me memorize all the notes on the entire fret board..so Thankyou for that. Anyways my question is , I just purchased a 1984 usa fender with a Kahler Killer 2700 trem. Will do I have to do some drilling/routing to change that to a Floyd rose trem? My first fender electric. I’ve owned nothing but deans and a few Washburns in the past. Looking forward to hearing from you. And do you do this kind of work for paying customers?
I have never installed that bridge before, but by looking at it, it seems fairly straight forward. the posts you will probably have to move. just do a bunch of measurements like this video and it will tell you what needs to be done.
Wow, so happy I found your channel
Thank you for taking the time to help us! Question: How do you start off setting the individual saddles for every string? How do we assume that the settings that worked for the previous guitar will work for the new one? Hope this makes sense, thanks!
Nice guitar Will!
Just finished watching your MS video. Have you found ways to help your MS? Thanks so much.
yes, and it is not what one would think but there is truth to it. YOu have to alter your way of thinking and reduce stress, anger, and learn to let things go. Check out Dr. Gabor Mate and auto immune diseases are related to unresolved emotional trauma.
@WillsEasyGuitar I completely agree. Chronic stress from a prior job is what caused a host of symptoms for me 2 years ago. I've had about 85% under control for a while now. I believe it's important to be your own advocate and educate yourself.
Nice demo 👌
I wonder why some FR look like it rests flat on the body and didn’t need to lower the surface with the router. I guess it depends on the finger board’s height and angle but how shall I measure that height ?
i.e. : at which height should the cords be from the frettes ?
I am building a setup with a Strats Squier and an aftermarket neck.
Where are all the old videos?
Will, your tonewood video is gone ! What happened?
Thank you Will
Hey Will, hope your doing okay? When you file the slots in the nut, if you have a high E thats a 9, do you use a file thats a 9 or do you use a file thats a 10??? What do you do with all the other strings?? Just wondering, as one would need like 6 to 10 or more files which can get stupid crazy expensive?? Have you ever heard of some one making their own using feeler guages that one filed teeth into?? Thx.
Very nice. Love the content.
Much appreciated!
in ur design, can trem move forward and backward?
Beautiful!
Thanks Bill is this video part of your Guitar building course?
no, my course is very detailed from the bottom going up. From raw wood to completely finished. This is nothing compared to my course.
I wish I could have found this video a long time ago.
Awesome work !!!
Curious about the 26 inch scale
So am I. Never heard of a 26 inch scale neck; all of mine are either 24.75 inches or 25.5 inches. 🤔
All scale length is ,is the frets are spaced farther apart, all the notes are the same
@@gm-lb9oe scale length is the distance from the nut to the 12th fret doubled. That determines the distance from the nut to the bridge saddle. If it's not correct for the neck being used, the instrument won't intonate properly and it won't sound right. The frets are spaced differently on those two neck scale lengths.
@@billjackson9702 exactly. I think Will may have just mis spoken
I didn’t misspeak. It’s 26
Just to clarify; why did you put the front edge of the bridge saddles in the 25.5" mark? Shouldn't it be that it's the edge of the point where the strings rest on the bridge that should be in the 25.5" mark?
Because an FR bridge isn't exactly like a Strat bridge where the edge of the bridge saddles are where the strings actually rest. In an FR bridge, the strings kinda rest around 1/2" further back (and higher) of the saddles.
I'm no expert on guitars, but it seems that you just made an FR guitar setup at 26.0" scale length (approximately).
awesome vid
Love this.
Thanks Will for the awesome videos!
Very nice.
Very surprised that you are using such a thick marker, I wouldn't be comfortable with a tip more than 0.3 mm for marking anything.
How in the world do you get 160+k subscribers with only 12 videos?
I used to have more than 600 but I deleted them all because youtube quit promoting them and they never got views
Will! HNY
With all this measuring, you should remind people of how to do it in a manly way.
Will's Easy Guitar..If you wanna do a clip on ''How to install a Floyd Rose tremolo without a template''...it would be nice if you actually had a Floyd Rose trem to install...just saying...
it is the same process. use your head. just saying.