I just spent 2 hours tuning mine because i changed the gauge and i (stupidly) cut all the strings at once. Thanks for your help, i would have never got it right
Don’t want to tune the guitar a million times to balance the trem??? If you first loosen the spring claw and put a tapered block in the backside between the trem and body (on the other side of the springs) you can then set the angle of the bridge to where ever you want with the taper block to hold it in place.. tune to pitch... then bit by bit screw the claw back until the block slips away of its own accord.. it saves a bundle of time and you only need to tune it once.. no matter what gauge or tuning you want.. may need to change out a spring or add one depending on what you’re trying to do..
@@JohnnnyGashno problema, you cut em off at once, put all strings in place no tension, the use something to elevate the Floyd near the level, see the bridge moves, then tension thicker first, and if release the Floyd, and goes up lose string and move the screws. o goes down do the opposite. it's easy but you'll spend some hours with it for sure and it's normal.
Put off changing string because this knucklehead thought it would be a good time to clean, file frets, and having worked for years on fighter electronic systems this should be easy. Ummm, why is guage scale different? Why is larger actually smaller? So to show dumassery, purchased 10s thinking there were a smaller guage like, every, other. Industry. Still fun and this knucklehead may one day be a better player. Thanks
Another tip, if you plan on unscrewing the claw screws, DETUNE the strings first, make them slack, otherwise your strings will pull the claw out after a while.
Easiest and quickest way I found to set up a floyd rose is to purposely tighten the springs a bit too tight so the bridge goes in, then find something like a piece of cardboard or whatnot to place underneath the bridge to block it at parallel position. After that, you can tune your strings and adjust the intonation like a fixed bridge. Once it's all done, you can lock the nut and remove the piece of cardboard or whatever you used to block the bridge. Bridge will go in (as if was before). Now you take a tuner and loosen those springs until the strings get back to the correct pitch.
Hey brother, quick question, I put Elixer 9-42 on my Jackson Dinky and the strings are super hard to bend, if I used just two springs would bends be easier? Been playing 40 years and know how to use my wrist for bends/vibrato, but never had a guitar so hard to bend the strings on. Please help. (I am not talking about using the trem bar to bend, just finger bends)
@@KevinVenturePhilippines maybe you're used to play with 24.75" scale length (a Les Paul for example) with 9-42 strings, while a Dinky is 25.5", so strings will be a little tighter with the same strings. A rule of thumb is to use 1 set thinner on 25.5, so you'd be looking at a set of 8's. Looks like you like light strings. (nothing wrong with it, just a preference)
@@HCkev Thanks so much for your time! The neck length may indeed be a reason. But if I take a spring off the trem in the back and just use two, that would not make the bending easier?
@@KevinVenturePhilippines yes, but it would also make other strings getting out tune when bending more easily (not really a problem most of the time because the other strings typically aren't being played). For the most part, it will affect how easily you can divebomb. Typically, you add or remote springs to match the tension of the strings (if you play standard tuning with very thick strings, then you'd need to add springs, otherwise the spring screws would most likely be screwed all the way in). Since you play with light gauge, you may try with one less spring (I'm assuming you have 3 springs, try removing the middle one and tightening the screws). You can also re-arrage the springs in a V shape to get a little more tension with those two springs
Thank you Chris, this was a life savior! I have a Jackson DXMG for 15 years and never knew I could tune the springs. I was so upset with my guitar for not being able to handle thicker strings (I couldn't tune beyond D) but now I happy again thanks to you! Quick and on point! Cheers from Romania!
I once had a 7string Ibanez with Floyd Rose and i remember it as horrible nightmare back in my beginner days, i ended up not using the guitar until i sold it. But now i enjoy Tremolos like Bigsby a lot, just ordered a 6string Dean with Floyd Rose from Thomann to give it another chance, i'm a bit scared but with this guide i already feel safer, guitar hopefully arrives this week. Thanks Kris and all Thomann staff, greetings from Austria!
Owned a Floyd Rose for 5 years as my first guitar; there was so much I didn't know, and tbf maybe didn't need to because I didn't have a tremolo arm, but the time has come to learn and this video is so useful
This is so helpful! I picked up a used RG for a steal of a deal that needs some work. It is my first FR and set up has been a little tricky, but getting it dialed in. Thanks Kris!😎👍
This is a great vid, thanks to this I just completed my first string size upgrade on my Tom Morello Sig Strat with Floyd Rose locking tremolo, it was easy thanks to your tips man, freakin' awesome! There is no way I would have been successful without your pointers; and listen people, these are pointers, use your brains to figure the rest out as you tune and adjust, be logical and you will end up with same great results that I did. w00t!
I was looking for a way to decrease the tension on my floating system from Ernie Ball because I was having trouble getting the aggressive vibrato that I like, and this video saved me. Y’all are dope!
Thanks. I really need to learn this. I am afraid to set up my own guitars 😂 because I am so scared to mess it up. But I had 2 different guitar store screw up on 3 of my guitars last year. It's time I do this myself.
Setting up a double locking system can be a REAL pain so the fear there is understandable, fixed bridges are so much easier to set up I definitely experiment with other tunings on those.
Super Format, cooles Video, ein sympathischer Typ, der nicht erstmal 5 Minuten in Selbstdarstellung rumlabert, bevor er zum Punkt kommt, astrein, Danke big T ! Andere Themen: Halseinstellung, Ein Vintage-Tremolo einstellen (!), das es nicht alles dauernd verstimmt, Humbucker splitten, richtige Potis, löten, Schaltbilder für bestimmte Gitarrentypen (LesP, Tele, Strat, Powerstrat usw.) usw.
Had a floyed rose for 12 years and never had this happen until yesterday. Thats what i get for changing my preferred string. Thanks for the video dude saved me a trip to the shop.
Exactly what I was looking for!! I don't know how many of these types of videos I've watched over the past but none of them that I've seen show exactly how to level that tremolo bridge section. What I mean by that is that, sure, they always say make sure it's not too high or too low. But I never knew if you were to judge that by the screws that are hanging out (which is what I went by and ran into issues on one of my guitars which led me here) or the flat section which you described here. Thanks a bunch!!!
Thanks! Your quick vid pointed me in the right direction. I couldn't remember what gauge of strings were on my Jackson and when I tuned it up, UH OH, my bridge was pulling forward. ARGH! What do I do? You vid gave me the confidence to adjust my Floyd Rose. TY!
oh, my string guage on these new strings are too low that thats why i taught my guitar was broke. Thank you for shedding light on how the tension springs and string guage interact with each other. now back to the guitar store to buy 9s
My new HB 620 with FR arrived yesterday, of course little bit out of tune, (the sequence to tune the strings is 6-1-5-2-4-3). Without to know anything ,I started 4-3-5-2-6-1 ,from the center, you know, but it didn't work :-)) , so i started the opposite way (which is the right way) and it worked. Some small tuning adjustments i had to do on FR for each string seperately (these big round bolts), absolute balance, perfect sound! Took me around two hours, carefully and with patience. Till then i only knew that the tuning of one string affects the other (sounds Horrible!!!) and some small adjustments may needed at the end on the FR for every string, it worked, finally it's not so hard as it seems. The sound is perfect, the FR is amazing, soft to use ( i tried the tremolo of my older guitars but i never used it, garbage, hard to use and out of tuning in 2 seconds..). I only face little difficulty on picking (i used to bridge-picking) but i will get use to it. I will buy one more guitar without FR but not for this reason, FR offers stability, balance and great sound. It gives sensititivy to the sound, colour, romance, expression in whatever you play. So go for it! Don't forget to push and pull the FR from time to time during tuning, it helps the new strings and the new FR to sit on the right position, tune one-two strings, play something, use the FR, tuning, and again... Have fun!
Love my Ibanez s420 there is a wheel at the back for tension tuning. No need to unscrew anything. And have a Jackson, yeah you have to spend some time to make it aligned.
Thank you so much for this video! I just got the Ibanez Jem Jr and the bridge on the high E side was lower than the other side, Also the bridge was facing downwards. So I followed your instructions and now its working great. and don't need to spend $150au on a Guitar service at my local Guitar store :)
Important: On some Edge tremolo design, the top of the tremolo is not parallel to the knife edge, so the knife edge needs to be parallel to the body of the guitar and not the top of the tremolo. You can see the knife edge on the side of the tremolo.
Got an RG a couple months after starting to play and this exact thing pissed me off. Everyone says "make it parallel" and I was screaming "make WHAT part parallel" because if the face of the bridge is parallel with the body it's way too far back. Now that I have a Jackson with an actual Floyd Rose I see what they mean, the body of the bridge does actually sit flush with the guitar body
I’ve never was familiar with using a Floyd rose but I bit the bullet and bought me a Jackson Kelly with one and I got to say it seems intimidating but I’m always up for a good challenge and to learn something new! Thanks for this video! It will definitely help out
Don’t want to tune the guitar a million times to balance the trem??? If you first loosen the spring claw and put a tapered block in the backside between the trem and body (on the other side of where the springs slot in) you can then set the angle of the bridge to where ever you want it.. tune to pitch... then bit by bit screw the claw back until the block slips away of its own accord.. it saves a bundle of time and you only need to tune it once..
See myself personally I would leave the bridge just a TOUTCH higher than the body in the back side adjust total height with my two front screws “closest to the pickups” To my desired height from the pickups then ever so slight down curve in my neck. Of course mine was the setup of the edge 3 trem on an Ibanez never the less very very similar in setup and playability. Just my personal favorite set up worked great for me.
Hey. Man thank you for answering the questions you know someone would get ton speaking with you. I bought a Jackson Dinky arch top natural wood oilm I only ke how Iit plays but it doesn't seem to be as loud as my Ibanez. Maybe that's how fender china be has decided to make them. I'm sorry I didn't get back to see them when they were still made in Japan. But the ps-et shark fin I had was still the guitar I loved playing.im not sure what it is about how Grover aJackson used to make the guitars so much but those were the days people would talk about getting used to playing a Jackson but know that I am, I don't think I want to play another guitar. I try to describe it seems like I was reaching over the fretboard mo and Evans I played riffs that on my other guitars it was an effort but I played that Jackson and I was soaring like a hawk not trying to flap my wings like that old film footage of the first aeroplanes. The one that collapsed on itself trying to flap it's wings. Do you rememembe when peopl would say now that I'm used to a Jackson? He passed two years after I bought my first Jackson in 2000. Now that fender makes them they never got his secret formula to be able to make those Jackson's the way aGrover adid. And since I've bought this will whatever did to the guitars be done again or was it howbtheybdesigned the guitars in 2000 that made them play differently than acharvels I've owned two of the this is my 14th guitar but that 2000 ps-3t I sold it 🤔 NG no to bed gonna take me serious playing a bat of hell. But I miss that guitar. Can my new Jackson he seet up like that again and how many people still around remember how it was SET UP and ARE'N'T guessing?
Tightening the screws on the claw doesn't always flatten the tremolo. I have an 89 hm strat with a kahler spyder...have 4 new gotoh springs, 10's and tightened the screws. Still slightly forward though not like it was, but it will never sit flush without the whammy bar being unusable since it sits so far in the cavity. Sometimes, you just have to make the best of it.
Thank you for this video! Did you detune the strings first before turning the two screws? From what I'm seeing as you do each repetition, you're turning the screws first then retuning the strings each time. If detuning the strings isn't needed before turning the screws each time, then that'll save a lot of work.
After restringing I used to pick up my guitar by the whammy bar and shake it violently😂. So many devices to “enhance” a floating trem, zero point returns like Ibanez or a tremel no even a dtuna I’f your decked maybe a demo of some of these add ons. It may take a while but once you get in tune it stays there 🤘🏽!
So a little confused here...the issue with tuning a Floyd is that each time you tune a string, it will de-tune the remaining strings and you will have to keep going around in circles forever...UNLESS you block the bridge to keep it from moving while you tune each time. I dont see that you have blocked the bridge here so how are you able to get it back in tune each time you tighten the claw?
after 5 years of owning a floyd rose guitar i did never tried to either restring my guitar or change tuning today it was the first day that i did actually managed to change strings on my guitar and it was such a piece of cake not gonna lie What about changing tuning ? is it more complex? i am now at Drop C tuning with 11-52 guage and i might want to go back to Standard tuning because its been like 4 and a half years that i am playing on DROP C currently
I have always had just your basic fixed bridge guitar... I bought kramer with floyd rose and I figured I could do it without any instruction, I broke both E strings.
I changed my strings last night and everything was fine until I decided to try a different tuning. Couldn’t tune to drop D so I left it at standard but damn I was up till 2am tuning it back the way it was
I tried the different spring placement,but I had to screw the screws in all the way and when I tune it it’s still way up in the air…what am I doing wrong?
For some reason the springs I use can hardly handle 46-10s. I even bought floyd rose noiseless springs and put them in a triangle shape, and I STILL almost had to to screw them all the way in to balance right.... I should have just bought the heavy duty springs. Maybe I have a short tremolo cavity? It took me a week to figure this out and I don't want to touch it now.
I'm trying to figure out if the shop tech I took my FR guitar to could have broken the system by cutting the strings off all at once .. My guitar and Floyd seemed fine before that and now one of the two posts on the bridge is bent all the way up so that the action is permanently broken .. I don't know what to do .. he gave it back to me and said I can still play it and insisted it was already broken
I have a non floating trem double lock with plate bolts high and it leans towards bottom of guitar (away from pups) I can’t seem to keep it in tune. Kramer 1984 brand new and won’t stay in tune
Thanks for the video. i just bought a Charvel Henrik- It's standard 9-42. If i change a 9-46 will i need a full set up or will you're tips on the video be enough (intonation etc...) Thanks.
So my Floyd was leaning too far back and with some adjustment I got it parallel but kept going out of tune and when I finally got it in tune it went back to leaning too far back what do I do
Nice setup man!!! I did dat and it works great!! Onley he is way to stiff,, I even pulled out 1 spring,, I got 2 springs now… I don’t get it.. do you got a tip chris?
What do you do if You get all strings on there and they won’t all tune to pitch And Your Floyd tilts forward super far even when you have the claw screws practically buried into the body?
Thanks man, I was having problems with when I first strum my strings, they would sound out of tune until you let it ring out for a while then it goes back into tune. But you told me about the in the video you say that's a Floyd Rose has to be flush with the body mine leans forward because of probably the string tension. So I guess what I'm getting out of your video is that I need to either tighten the screws in the back to the springs, while the lock nuts are unlocked just to make it flush with the body, do I have that correct?
Hey man, some of these tech videos are a few years old by now but we always check for comments. These subjects don't get old. :) If you want the tremolo to be flush you have to tighten the screws holding the springs in the back, so yes. Don't forget to re-tune the strings after every little screw adjustment. You'll only hear and see what changed, once you tuned them. What you're saying about the strings is probably a different issue though: you might want to check if the string gauge is right for your picking style. You usually have this "picking strings out of tune" issue, when the strings are too thin for your playing style. Or of course if the tremolo flutters too easily, that can also cause this problem. In that case an additional spring would help (but then you need to turn out the screws quite a bit, otherwise the whole tremolo just leans to the back). Cheers //Kris
everytime i tune my floyd, i block off the spring side so i can bring the string tension up to tune, then i tighten the spring side to match the tune of the strings. takes alot less time
I just spent 2 hours tuning mine because i changed the gauge and i (stupidly) cut all the strings at once. Thanks for your help, i would have never got it right
Don’t want to tune the guitar a million times to balance the trem???
If you first loosen the spring claw and put a tapered block in the backside between the trem and body (on the other side of the springs) you can then set the angle of the bridge to where ever you want with the taper block to hold it in place.. tune to pitch... then bit by bit screw the claw back until the block slips away of its own accord..
it saves a bundle of time and you only need to tune it once.. no matter what gauge or tuning you want.. may need to change out a spring or add one depending on what you’re trying to do..
Glad I wasn't the only one who rushed taking the strings off and realized how you can't do that
I did the same and I want to cry.
@@JohnnnyGashno problema, you cut em off at once, put all strings in place no tension, the use something to elevate the Floyd near the level, see the bridge moves, then tension thicker first, and if release the Floyd, and goes up lose string and move the screws. o goes down do the opposite. it's easy but you'll spend some hours with it for sure and it's normal.
Put off changing string because this knucklehead thought it would be a good time to clean, file frets, and having worked for years on fighter electronic systems this should be easy.
Ummm, why is guage scale different? Why is larger actually smaller? So to show dumassery, purchased 10s thinking there were a smaller guage like, every, other. Industry.
Still fun and this knucklehead may one day be a better player.
Thanks
I don’t have a Floyd Rose but it never hurts to learn, might help a friend. Thanks
Your a good person 💯
Another tip, if you plan on unscrewing the claw screws, DETUNE the strings first, make them slack, otherwise your strings will pull the claw out after a while.
Easiest and quickest way I found to set up a floyd rose is to purposely tighten the springs a bit too tight so the bridge goes in, then find something like a piece of cardboard or whatnot to place underneath the bridge to block it at parallel position. After that, you can tune your strings and adjust the intonation like a fixed bridge. Once it's all done, you can lock the nut and remove the piece of cardboard or whatever you used to block the bridge. Bridge will go in (as if was before). Now you take a tuner and loosen those springs until the strings get back to the correct pitch.
Hey brother, quick question, I put Elixer 9-42 on my Jackson Dinky and the strings are super hard to bend, if I used just two springs would bends be easier? Been playing 40 years and know how to use my wrist for bends/vibrato, but never had a guitar so hard to bend the strings on. Please help. (I am not talking about using the trem bar to bend, just finger bends)
@@KevinVenturePhilippines usually it's more a matter of string thickness, but 9-42 isn't a thick gauge, so I don't know..
@@KevinVenturePhilippines maybe you're used to play with 24.75" scale length (a Les Paul for example) with 9-42 strings, while a Dinky is 25.5", so strings will be a little tighter with the same strings. A rule of thumb is to use 1 set thinner on 25.5, so you'd be looking at a set of 8's. Looks like you like light strings. (nothing wrong with it, just a preference)
@@HCkev Thanks so much for your time! The neck length may indeed be a reason. But if I take a spring off the trem in the back and just use two, that would not make the bending easier?
@@KevinVenturePhilippines yes, but it would also make other strings getting out tune when bending more easily (not really a problem most of the time because the other strings typically aren't being played). For the most part, it will affect how easily you can divebomb. Typically, you add or remote springs to match the tension of the strings (if you play standard tuning with very thick strings, then you'd need to add springs, otherwise the spring screws would most likely be screwed all the way in). Since you play with light gauge, you may try with one less spring (I'm assuming you have 3 springs, try removing the middle one and tightening the screws). You can also re-arrage the springs in a V shape to get a little more tension with those two springs
Can we all take time to appreciate how beautiful that Jackson is Danke
Thank you Chris, this was a life savior! I have a Jackson DXMG for 15 years and never knew I could tune the springs. I was so upset with my guitar for not being able to handle thicker strings (I couldn't tune beyond D) but now I happy again thanks to you! Quick and on point! Cheers from Romania!
I once had a 7string Ibanez with Floyd Rose and i remember it as horrible nightmare back in my beginner days, i ended up not using the guitar until i sold it.
But now i enjoy Tremolos like Bigsby a lot, just ordered a 6string Dean with Floyd Rose from Thomann to give it another chance, i'm a bit scared but with this guide i already feel safer, guitar hopefully arrives this week. Thanks Kris and all Thomann staff, greetings from Austria!
Owned a Floyd Rose for 5 years as my first guitar; there was so much I didn't know, and tbf maybe didn't need to because I didn't have a tremolo arm, but the time has come to learn and this video is so useful
This is so helpful! I picked up a used RG for a steal of a deal that needs some work. It is my first FR and set up has been a little tricky, but getting it dialed in. Thanks Kris!😎👍
Nice to hear that and congrats!
//cheers, Kris
Thank you guys I managed to level out my Floyd in just 30 minutes and now it plays so much nicer!!! :)
I can’t thank you enough for this video. For the first time ever I was able to tune/down tune my Floyd rose without any issues. You’re a genius.
So cool man, glad to hear that! Enjoy your Floyd! Cheers //Kris
This is a great vid, thanks to this I just completed my first string size upgrade on my Tom Morello Sig Strat with Floyd Rose locking tremolo, it was easy thanks to your tips man, freakin' awesome! There is no way I would have been successful without your pointers; and listen people, these are pointers, use your brains to figure the rest out as you tune and adjust, be logical and you will end up with same great results that I did. w00t!
I was looking for a way to decrease the tension on my floating system from Ernie Ball because I was having trouble getting the aggressive vibrato that I like, and this video saved me. Y’all are dope!
Thanks. I really need to learn this. I am afraid to set up my own guitars 😂 because I am so scared to mess it up. But I had 2 different guitar store screw up on 3 of my guitars last year. It's time I do this myself.
you can do it man, it's not as scary as you think. You will save so much time and money.
Setting up a double locking system can be a REAL pain so the fear there is understandable, fixed bridges are so much easier to set up I definitely experiment with other tunings on those.
Thanks ! My tremolo leaned forward and I didn't know how to solve it. Now it's good !
Super Format, cooles Video, ein sympathischer Typ, der nicht erstmal 5 Minuten in Selbstdarstellung rumlabert, bevor er zum Punkt kommt, astrein, Danke big T !
Andere Themen: Halseinstellung, Ein Vintage-Tremolo einstellen (!), das es nicht alles dauernd verstimmt, Humbucker splitten, richtige Potis, löten, Schaltbilder für bestimmte Gitarrentypen (LesP, Tele, Strat, Powerstrat usw.) usw.
Had a floyed rose for 12 years and never had this happen until yesterday. Thats what i get for changing my preferred string. Thanks for the video dude saved me a trip to the shop.
Been searching for a while how to fix my sons Floyd Rose. This is the best set up on RUclips . Thamks
Wow, that's so good to hear Cameron! Glad we could help with the setup. Cheers //Kris
I been messing with this thing all gd day. Watch this video, 10 minutes later, done deal! Thanks
That's awesome man, good to hear that it helped. Now Floyd away! 🤘 //Kris
A lot of great pointers..I’m adjusting guitars to taste and appreciate the fine details of your videos and your experience…thanks very much!
Thumbs up for the sweet run in the end. And of course a flawless explanation. Thanks!
Exactly what I was looking for!! I don't know how many of these types of videos I've watched over the past but none of them that I've seen show exactly how to level that tremolo bridge section. What I mean by that is that, sure, they always say make sure it's not too high or too low. But I never knew if you were to judge that by the screws that are hanging out (which is what I went by and ran into issues on one of my guitars which led me here) or the flat section which you described here. Thanks a bunch!!!
So glad to hear that! Cheers //Kris
Thanks! Your quick vid pointed me in the right direction. I couldn't remember what gauge of strings were on my Jackson and when I tuned it up, UH OH, my bridge was pulling forward. ARGH! What do I do? You vid gave me the confidence to adjust my Floyd Rose. TY!
oh, my string guage on these new strings are too low that thats why i taught my guitar was broke. Thank you for shedding light on how the tension springs and string guage interact with each other.
now back to the guitar store to buy 9s
I plan on getting a solar guitar with a floyd rose and this video will help me prepare for a set up after I change the strings
My new HB 620 with FR arrived yesterday, of course little bit out of tune, (the sequence to tune the strings is 6-1-5-2-4-3). Without to know anything ,I started 4-3-5-2-6-1 ,from the center, you know, but it didn't work :-)) , so i started the opposite way (which is the right way) and it worked.
Some small tuning adjustments i had to do on FR for each string seperately (these big round bolts), absolute balance, perfect sound! Took me around two hours, carefully and with patience.
Till then i only knew that the tuning of one string affects the other (sounds Horrible!!!) and some small adjustments may needed at the end on the FR for every string, it worked, finally it's not so hard as it seems.
The sound is perfect, the FR is amazing, soft to use ( i tried the tremolo of my older guitars but i never used it, garbage, hard to use and out of tuning in 2 seconds..).
I only face little difficulty on picking (i used to bridge-picking) but i will get use to it. I will buy one more guitar without FR but not for this reason, FR offers stability, balance and great sound. It gives sensititivy to the sound, colour, romance, expression in whatever you play. So go for it!
Don't forget to push and pull the FR from time to time during tuning, it helps the new strings and the new FR to sit on the right position, tune one-two strings, play something, use the FR, tuning, and again...
Have fun!
The're are the only videos i like from Chris
Love my Ibanez s420 there is a wheel at the back for tension tuning. No need to unscrew anything. And have a Jackson, yeah you have to spend some time to make it aligned.
Thank you so much for this video!
I just got the Ibanez Jem Jr and the bridge on the high E side was lower than the other side, Also the bridge was facing downwards. So I followed your instructions and now its working great. and don't need to spend $150au on a Guitar service at my local Guitar store :)
Important: On some Edge tremolo design, the top of the tremolo is not parallel to the knife edge, so the knife edge needs to be parallel to the body of the guitar and not the top of the tremolo. You can see the knife edge on the side of the tremolo.
Got an RG a couple months after starting to play and this exact thing pissed me off. Everyone says "make it parallel" and I was screaming "make WHAT part parallel" because if the face of the bridge is parallel with the body it's way too far back.
Now that I have a Jackson with an actual Floyd Rose I see what they mean, the body of the bridge does actually sit flush with the guitar body
Ok, so now I know why my unit hits the stock when I release it! thank you....
I’ve never was familiar with using a Floyd rose but I bit the bullet and bought me a Jackson Kelly with one and I got to say it seems intimidating but I’m always up for a good challenge and to learn something new! Thanks for this video! It will definitely help out
Dude I have just fix my ibenez because of you thank you .
Ok this video just saved my sanity!! Excellent work!
Ok, now where's the Floyd Rose setup?
amazing tutorial
I def gotta see you shred something!! That last bit was noice aha
Thank you for this video!!! Loved the outro!!! Cheers amd Merry Christmas!
Damn I just noticed that your videos three-years-old help you get back to me cuz this is been really bothering me
Don’t want to tune the guitar a million times to balance the trem???
If you first loosen the spring claw and put a tapered block in the backside between the trem and body (on the other side of where the springs slot in) you can then set the angle of the bridge to where ever you want it.. tune to pitch... then bit by bit screw the claw back until the block slips away of its own accord..
it saves a bundle of time and you only need to tune it once..
Awesome! Thanks for Aotearoa! (New Zealand) :)
Could please do a video around setting up floyd rose guitars for low tunings?
Awesome video man!! Beautiful guitar too!! Crazy tuner as well
Awesome quick video and very helpful, thank you!
Now I finally have a clue!!
Thanks a lot 🙏
Haha the force theme, hell yeah 👍
glad i found this video solved my problem ...thanks
Thanks man, great video - very clear explanation and easy to follow 👍
Thanks a lot! Glad to hear you like it. //Kris
See myself personally I would leave the bridge just a TOUTCH higher than the body in the back side adjust total height with my two front screws “closest to the pickups” To my desired height from the pickups then ever so slight down curve in my neck. Of course mine was the setup of the edge 3 trem on an Ibanez never the less very very similar in setup and playability. Just my personal favorite set up worked great for me.
Thanks bro exactly what I needed to know!!
Hey. Man thank you for answering the questions you know someone would get ton speaking with you. I bought a Jackson Dinky arch top natural wood oilm I only ke how Iit plays but it doesn't seem to be as loud as my Ibanez. Maybe that's how fender china be has decided to make them. I'm sorry I didn't get back to see them when they were still made in Japan. But the ps-et shark fin I had was still the guitar I loved playing.im not sure what it is about how Grover aJackson used to make the guitars so much but those were the days people would talk about getting used to playing a Jackson but know that I am, I don't think I want to play another guitar. I try to describe it seems like I was reaching over the fretboard mo and Evans I played riffs that on my other guitars it was an effort but I played that Jackson and I was soaring like a hawk not trying to flap my wings like that old film footage of the first aeroplanes. The one that collapsed on itself trying to flap it's wings. Do you rememembe when peopl would say now that I'm used to a Jackson? He passed two years after I bought my first Jackson in 2000. Now that fender makes them they never got his secret formula to be able to make those Jackson's the way aGrover adid. And since I've bought this will whatever did to the guitars be done again or was it howbtheybdesigned the guitars in 2000 that made them play differently than acharvels I've owned two of the this is my 14th guitar but that 2000 ps-3t I sold it 🤔 NG no to bed gonna take me serious playing a bat of hell. But I miss that guitar. Can my new Jackson he seet up like that again and how many people still around remember how it was SET UP and ARE'N'T guessing?
Very to the point, appreciate the help
Thanks for the clarification 😊😁
Beautiful guitar!! Thanks for the tips!!👍🏻
Super helpful, thank You!😎🎶
nice star wars riff at the end
Very nice thank you.
Guitar destroyer!!!
Thanks man, this helped me out a lot!
Glad to hear that Jason! //Kris
Getting a guitar with a floyd rose is probably the nr 1 most demotivational thing a beginner can do to their learning process.
Yes, indeed! It's a lot of fun to use but there is a learning curve to it for sure. //Kris
Tightening the screws on the claw doesn't always flatten the tremolo. I have an 89 hm strat with a kahler spyder...have 4 new gotoh springs, 10's and tightened the screws. Still slightly forward though not like it was, but it will never sit flush without the whammy bar being unusable since it sits so far in the cavity. Sometimes, you just have to make the best of it.
If there's too much tension you can always remove a spring and then try again to level plus tune.
I have Fed mine up. I hope this helps.
That’s super helpful. Now I don’t regret having one lol
Glad you liked it dude! //Kris
Great video!
Thanks
Thank you for this video! Did you detune the strings first before turning the two screws? From what I'm seeing as you do each repetition, you're turning the screws first then retuning the strings each time. If detuning the strings isn't needed before turning the screws each time, then that'll save a lot of work.
that jackson is an absolute beut what the model dude?
Well explained sir!!
After restringing I used to pick up my guitar by the whammy bar and shake it violently😂.
So many devices to “enhance” a floating trem, zero point returns like Ibanez or a tremel no even a dtuna I’f your decked maybe a demo of some of these add ons.
It may take a while but once you get in tune it stays there 🤘🏽!
You are a brave person Mr. Poo. Haha! Have you learned that whammy bar shake from Steve Vai?
//cheers, Kris
Sometimes it’s funny to watch people’s eyes bug out of their head when you do it 🤣but it’s soo METAAAAAL!
Thank you!
Should mention turn screws equal turns each adjustment. Kind of a bigie...
Thank for tutorial man, i just bought Ibanez floating tremoloshit, i am so confusing as shit when i try to tuning with new strings.
Please make a demo on how to install Tremory Spring for floating.
The actual process will consume a very long time for beginners and long time (without "very") for masters.
So a little confused here...the issue with tuning a Floyd is that each time you tune a string, it will de-tune the remaining strings and you will have to keep going around in circles forever...UNLESS you block the bridge to keep it from moving while you tune each time. I dont see that you have blocked the bridge here so how are you able to get it back in tune each time you tighten the claw?
after 5 years of owning a floyd rose guitar i did never tried to either restring my guitar or change tuning
today it was the first day that i did actually managed to change strings on my guitar and it was such a piece of cake not gonna lie
What about changing tuning ? is it more complex? i am now at Drop C tuning with 11-52 guage and i might want to go back to Standard tuning because its been like 4 and a half years that i am playing on DROP C currently
I have always had just your basic fixed bridge guitar... I bought kramer with floyd rose and I figured I could do it without any instruction, I broke both E strings.
Very helpful !
Thanks!
This was very helpful. Thank you very much!
Herzliche Grüße aus Stuttgart
Danke Julian! Freut mich sehr zu hören! :)
//Ciao, Kris
Great information!
Thanks a lot! Cheers man!
//Kris
3:53 Unexpected Star Wars!
I changed my strings last night and everything was fine until I decided to try a different tuning. Couldn’t tune to drop D so I left it at standard but damn I was up till 2am tuning it back the way it was
I tried the different spring placement,but I had to screw the screws in all the way and when I tune it it’s still way up in the air…what am I doing wrong?
Thank you man!
For some reason the springs I use can hardly handle 46-10s. I even bought floyd rose noiseless springs and put them in a triangle shape, and I STILL almost had to to screw them all the way in to balance right.... I should have just bought the heavy duty springs. Maybe I have a short tremolo cavity? It took me a week to figure this out and I don't want to touch it now.
I didn't think about the claw screws so much, didn't realize I could easily retain my five spring stiffness even with light gauge strings. Silly me 🎸
Having the same issue. I believe we just need to add another spring or replace with heavy duty springs.
I'm trying to figure out if the shop tech I took my FR guitar to could have broken the system by cutting the strings off all at once .. My guitar and Floyd seemed fine before that and now one of the two posts on the bridge is bent all the way up so that the action is permanently broken .. I don't know what to do .. he gave it back to me and said I can still play it and insisted it was already broken
I have a non floating trem double lock with plate bolts high and it leans towards bottom of guitar (away from pups) I can’t seem to keep it in tune. Kramer 1984 brand new and won’t stay in tune
Thanks for the video. i just bought a Charvel Henrik- It's standard 9-42. If i change a 9-46 will i need a full set up or will you're tips on the video be enough (intonation etc...)
Thanks.
So my Floyd was leaning too far back and with some adjustment I got it parallel but kept going out of tune and when I finally got it in tune it went back to leaning too far back what do I do
Nice setup man!!! I did dat and it works great!! Onley he is way to stiff,, I even pulled out 1 spring,, I got 2 springs now… I don’t get it.. do you got a tip chris?
I had to screw the claw almost all the way into the body to lower the bridge on mine. Does that mean I need thicker springs?.
I just got a guitar that is tuned to standard c. I want to tune it to standard e. Any pointers on how to do it?
What do you do if
You get all strings on there and they won’t all tune to pitch
And
Your Floyd tilts forward super far even when you have the claw screws practically buried into the body?
Maybe the springs are worn out? Could also be the time to ask a pro directly, in case something else has broken
star wars? yesssirrr
Thanks man, I was having problems with when I first strum my strings, they would sound out of tune until you let it ring out for a while then it goes back into tune. But you told me about the in the video you say that's a Floyd Rose has to be flush with the body mine leans forward because of probably the string tension. So I guess what I'm getting out of your video is that I need to either tighten the screws in the back to the springs, while the lock nuts are unlocked just to make it flush with the body, do I have that correct?
Hey man, some of these tech videos are a few years old by now but we always check for comments. These subjects don't get old. :)
If you want the tremolo to be flush you have to tighten the screws holding the springs in the back, so yes. Don't forget to re-tune the strings after every little screw adjustment. You'll only hear and see what changed, once you tuned them.
What you're saying about the strings is probably a different issue though: you might want to check if the string gauge is right for your picking style. You usually have this "picking strings out of tune" issue, when the strings are too thin for your playing style. Or of course if the tremolo flutters too easily, that can also cause this problem. In that case an additional spring would help (but then you need to turn out the screws quite a bit, otherwise the whole tremolo just leans to the back). Cheers //Kris
My first time messing with a FR. The high E string wants to lay on the fret still. I have the bridge level. Any ideas?
Would YOU convert a Floyd Rose brand guitar equip for SPEEDLOADER strings, or scrap it..
everytime i tune my floyd, i block off the spring side so i can bring the string tension up to tune, then i tighten the spring side to match the tune of the strings. takes alot less time
I need to lubricate the tremolo arm base whit some silicone grease or something?