Barry Bonds deserve to be in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame? | All Facts No Brakes
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- 2x World Champion, 3x All Star, and Braves Hall of Famer David Justice joins Keyshawn Johnson on “All Facts No Brakes.” The two discuss Barry Bonds and decide if Bonds should be in the MLB Hall of Fame.
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Barry Bonds deserve to be in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame? | All Facts No Brakes
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Should Barry Bonds be in the MLB HOF?
Absolutely!💯
yes
DUH!!!
DUH!!!
No
David Ortiz tested positive for PEDs & still got in.
And that's why I now say Bonds and Clemens should get in. The bar now should be players who were suspended for PEDs are excluded.
@@Lord_BibulousSosa also
@@yeshua3374which Sosa?
A) "Ofay" Sosa
B) "Oxford Grey" Sosa
I'll wait...🤔
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Ivan Rodriguez
@@moo-moo74 🤣🤣🤣🤣. The bust will made of white gold.
David needs to be on more podcasts. PERIOD!
I remember when he hit that home run against the Mariners. It was the best watching it live.
No he doesnt he throwing out rocks and then run and hide his hands. Like Key said you the one brought it up so name some names in the hall of fame on that list. I cant stand when people do that.. Dont spew out a narrative and then dont want to state facts to back it up.
He has his own podcast
@@javfantv3722great one too
@@leebruce3340seriously? Why does he need to rat on people ? He’s just stating a fact to illustrate the point. Too much class to call out a name. Ridiculous
Did Keyshawn just ask Keyshawn a question?! 😂 🤣
Yes😂 he did!😂
I thought I was trippin
I thought I was trippin, when I heard him say that.
I had to go back and replay it, I was confused
That’s about right!
MLB milked him in the Home Run battle for viewership then threw him away
Crazy right!? Then made him the villain. Blows my mind that bud selig milked the steroid era and is in the HOF. But the players that put the league on their backs (Bonds and Clemens) aren't in. SMH
@@707pesci i don't think Bonds ever admitted to using either
YES!
@@unclejj9600 no he didn't. He did say he unknowingly took the cream and clear, thinking it was something else. 😁
They didn't make him the villain. He was caught using steroids and admitted to it. Stop it
I'll just say this...before the alleged use, in 1998, the Diamondbacks intentionally walked the dude with the bases loaded. I had never seen that before. That's how scared teams were of him even before 1999. Also, 1993 Bonds was the best all around version of Bonds as he still had his speed, was stealing bases & winning Gold Gloves to go along with the HRs, batting average, RBIs, doubles, triples, etc.
He went 40 40 w the giants
Intentionally walked with the bases loaded and the baseball MVP in Jeff Kent coming up next.
I played D1 baseball, and four years in various AAA organizations, and saw that several times. It wasn’t common, but it was definitely used strategically. By the way, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa and countless others in the Bigs, and Minor Leagues were using PEDs well before 1999.
I thought it 1999-2000
@@spartamykonos It was "very" rare in the major leagues though. I think it has only happened a handful of times. We know McGwire and Sosa were using before 1999 as their chase was in 1998 but how do you know Bonds was?
THANK YOU DAVID JUSTICE FOR SAYING THAT BONDS NEVER TESTED POSITIVE, THATS THE KEY PHRASE
Yeah but come on. No serious person thinks there is any chance he didn't cheat.
He admitted it in court
@@jostopholeeshe NEVER admitted that he took steroids
He was taking the clear and cream steroid masking agent to avoid detection on a test. That was the reason he was on the Balco list as Victor Conti was the premier Chemist at that time. That’s why Bonds would chide the reporters to test him cause he knew he would pass despite his hesd size, shoe size and physique getting larger in his 30’s.
@@chrisolivo6591 the head size is the only indicator that he took steroids unknowingly. Anyone can get a bigger physique in their 30. I was a 11.5 shoe size 3 yrs ago and now I wear 12s 🤷🏽
It’s guys who popped test in the Hall aka David Ortiz
Exactly
Davis Ortiz never tested positve that was proven too be false
@@greglbennett that was proven too be false
Tony Larissa is in the hall and his As and cards were riddled with roids
Those that admitted it and owned up are getting in Bonds has lied about it for years there are witnesses to what he did just like Lance Armstrong
Bonds, Griffey Jr, Hank Aaron, Mays and Josh Gibson are in the conversation of THE GOAT in baseball history!!
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The reason Bonds isnt really in the HOF, is because he isnt liked. He treated the media with a horrible attitude and had colossal arrangance and he was well received. But because you dont like someone, doesn't exclude them from the HoF
There was a sportswriter on Rich Eisen’s show that summed it up perfectly, all that you said here.
White mainstream media don't like BB because he spoke out at times.Arrogant at times,but still great player.Eventually he will get in.Can't deny his greatness with Pirates and Giants
Albert Belle was the same way. He had a hall of fame worthy career and probably an MVP but he was an asshole. They did everything they could to keep T.O. out. He was a mess lol but still a hall of famer. Different sport I know
Who cares he still belongs in the hall !!!
I met him outside Gold's Gym in Burlingame...he wasn't friendly, not that he had to be. I just walked away. He's still my favorite player tho.
David Justice... Young man...!!! way to think and not take that bait from Keyshawn... 🤣😂
Bonds was never suspended.
And some murderers are never caught. Doesn’t make them innocent.
Seriously??? Wow what a comeback. Thats not even the samething
It is the same principle. Just because a person wasn't caught doesn't mean they weren't guilty. You can't actually think his head magically grew starting in 99 and then suddenly in retirement it shrank back to pre 99 size. He is one of the most obviously guilty cheaters in the sports history.
@@JDilla2285 and some cookie thieves 🍪 are never caught either. Doesn’t make them innocent. We can water it down to make it make sense.
I never said he wasn't on it, but I'm going by the criteria and I'm at the time Sosa, mcgwire and bonds were on it, it was LEGAL!!! and other players have used em and still couldn't put up the numbers bonds put up. Period
Barry Bonds was and is the greatest swinger of a bat ive ever seen
I can second that
SORRY KEN GRIFFEY JR HAD THE SWEETEST AND BEST SWING IN BASEBALL FROM WHAT I SEEN,
BUT Hands down Barry Bonds is a HALL OF FAMER!!!
@54lyk it say my opinion
@@54lykI can second that.
Ha.
Then you had never seen Rod Carew swinging bat. he did not have the power of bonds, but he had an amazing bat swing
He definetly belongs in the HOF
BS..He JUICED
Jeff Bagwell Mike Piazza and David Ortiz just to name a few.
Mike Piazza was never on any list and never tested positive for steroids
@roctwofizzle7266 Whether you want to believe it or not, I was there when Piazza got on steroids after his rookie year in Boynton Beach FL. It was me, an active player with the initials L.A. , a former Mr. USA, and a friend of Mike's who since has died.
I liked Bagwell
Bagwell 100% was NOT on any list nor did he ever test positive. He wasnt even in this conversation dude, he was one of the good ones from that Era people respected so stop with the misinformation dude. Delete this comment.
@@VanillaGamingCoHe started at a 175lbs and retired 240lbs just like Bonds never tested dirty. Ok 👌🏽 you must’ve lived under a rock because they sure did talked about Bagwell a lot. When he went in they talked about how big he got.
The guy that comes to mind when we talk about being on the list, it is Big Papi wasn't always Big Papi. David Ortiz tested positive for PEDs in 2003. But the media loves him.
Greg ANDERSON =LOYALTY
Barry Bonds was my favorite player growing up and is still my favorite baseball player till this day.
Great argument you know what I'm convinced put him in bc he's your favorite player. 👍
Mines too he was fun to watch at the plate in the field Andy base paths.
You should add David Justice to the show
Barry Bonds not being in the Hall of Fame made me stop watching MLB
Me too
Amen! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Facts
Good for you. You are not missed
me too. I stop seein MLB
Ppl forget (Conveniently) how GREAT Barry was.......
That’s not even remotely true 😂
Bonds was a hall of famer before the roids, that’s a fact, he started taking them to level the playing field with the ones who were already on them
@@PandasRViolentfacts
The smartest kid in Math class who cheated on a test should be disqualified. It's his fault for choosing not to use his intelligence like Bond chose not to use his talents and skills.
@@user-ll9qk2el4d But if the Teacher has no proof of the kid actually cheating and only speculated that he cheated they shouldn't fail said student. Bonds never tested positive or, was convicted despite all the "evidence". So by the court of law he is not guilty and should be in the HOF
he talking bout Big Papi
Yes, and Bagwell
Ivan Rodriguez too - Pudge was in Canseco’s book
Keyshawn knew exactly who it was!
It’s guys who popped test in the Hall aka Pudge Rodriguez
Yes
I was just shocked reading that Pudge tested positive so I did some digging around & what I found was that he never tested positive. Only thing that if u want to say "connect" him to it is Canseco in his book saying he { Pudge } used.
@@AlonzoDeshon Come On! young man ... In Puerto Rico he WAS eating lots of our Puerto Rican dishes like the Mofongo with Beef Stew and Arroz con Gandules = Yellow Rice and Pigeon PED Peas) 👌👍😂
@@SALSAKID49 AGAIN.....ITS A FACT.....NO OPINION. He has NOT tested positive since he was in the MLB! He could've use a masking agent IDK but he NEVER popped up dirty ✌🏾.
@@AlonzoDeshon LOL!! Young person... It's a flipped joke within our Puerto Ricans joking cultural with us PR Brothers... Besides If he did? and got away with it? good on him to cheat and not get busted... But in that era, it's who you know.... Look at Rafeal Palmiro, Miggie Tejada, Alex Rodriuez.... etc.... 🕳💣
david justice is entertaining, he needs his own show
Guys that were on the list but are in the Hall: David Oritz, Jeff Bagwell, and Frank Thomas are the first names that come to mind
Ortiz was not on the list
@@justinalley3399 In 2009, the New York Times reported that Ortiz's name along with over 100 others major league players appeared on a list compiled by federal investigators, that allegedly tested positive for PEDs during Major League Baseball survey testing conducted in spring training of 2003. He held a press conference saying he didn't take anything, and because the document was seized by the government, nobody could tell him exactly what he tested positive for, but his name was on the list. Now in 2016, Rob Manfred said that it's "entirely possible" that it was a false positive. But I do not believe there has ever been a report that refutes that Ortiz's name appeared on the list. But I've been wrong before, and if I am wrong I apologize to Mr. Ortiz
@@dontworryaboutit1726ahhh, yes, the Holocaust denying NYT. There's a reliable source.
@@justinalley3399yes he was kiddo . Sorry to burst your bubble kid .
@@beejeeezy7933 not the balco list, neither is clemens.
Bonds should definetely be in the hall of fame!!
Barry should be in and so should Gary Sheffield!
David Ortiz was in that list (103 players) but he said that the league had an agreement those names shouldn’t come out. That is one of the reasons why he is in the Hall Of Fame (MLB).
As a die hard Yankees fan, and a Baseball fan, Yes, Bonds should be in the HOF. His Pirates stats are better then some of the HOFamers!
This is why I don’t give any validity to the mlb hall of fame. That hall of fame without Barry Bonds, Pete Rose, and Roger Clemens just is not valid. Period!
I thought it was just ME - 3 of the Greatest Ever!!!
That’s because you don’t understand what the HOF is. Now key word in that is (fame). Doesn’t matter if a player is the Goat, if their (fame) is really bad they ain’t getting in. The standard for HOF is not just on the baseball field.
@@khure711 I understand completely what it is and that’s why in my opinion it is not valid without three of the best to ever play the game.
Yep. No Curt Schilling, Kenny Lofton, David Cone and Dave Stewart.
@@khure711they had fame though
Big papi, arod got popped in the hall of fame on that juice
Alex ain’t in the Hall of Fame Bro but Big Papi definitely is tho
wrong big papi never test positive that was proven too be false
Barry Bonds struck out over 100 times in only one season and it was his rookie season. Nobody has a better eye than Barry Bonds.
I saw over 100 Bonds games in person. His eye was easily the best I’ve ever seen. He’d routinely take 2-strike pitches just off the plate for balls, and with body language like he knew it was absolutely a ball. Only other players in my lifetime with a feel for strike zone at an extraordinary level were not power hitters, ie Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs…
Willie Mays struck out over 100 times once too and he was 40 in the ‘71 season.
A resounding YES
Did he call David Justice Keyshawn @3:27..LoL
That was all time lol
David Ortiz got in the hall and tested positive
David Justice hit the home run, only run in a 1-0 deciding game 6 of the '95 of the World Series with Tom Glavine securing the win. Man hit the home run after saying if the Braves lost this game, they'd run the team out the city. Salute 🫡
He hit a hr against the Mariners. This was with the Yankees.
@@mkhanman12345 you are wrong, Google it.
This was a good convo. Bring him back to discuss other topics.
Absolutely he should be in the Hall of Fame. He was great before the whole scandal.
So you think we shouldn't punish any criminals if before they committed crimes they were great people?
The fact of the matter is that he DID cheat. It doesn't matter that he was HOF before he cheated... Because he cheated. Period.
@@snerdtergusonfacts are the commissioner of baseball turned a blind eye to hitters and pitchers using PEDs. So MLB had no enforcement on the matter. That’s facts. And for you to compare it to “criminal” activity is ridiculous.
@@GrandAdmiralShanahanvery true
@snerdterguson oh here we go someone using logical fallacy trying to prove their pseudo intellectual point. Missing the whole point blurring the lines together.
I SAID his career was great before the whole scandal. But I'm sure you'll say taking drugs makes an athlete put the bat to the ball automatically, when batting in the game.
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Bonds was so much better than anyone else you have seen play. ARod, Pujols, Judge, Trout, Shohei.... doesn't matter. Power aside, he was the most skilled batter in history. Even if you think he got an extra 100 HRs from using, and you take those away, he would still have the best stats at the plate of anyone in history.
And unlike some of those other dudes in Hall, Barry wasn’t just a hitter.
Who else has 500hr and 500sb?
I hear you but don’t forget Ken Griffey Jr.
@@rafaelmuniz5467 Leaving him off my short list was an oversight. I won't say anything bad about Griffey, he is one of my favorite players ever, great all around talent, and likely a top 15 all time player... but I still think Bonds was clearly a cut above. People forget how good he was in the field when he was younger. He might have been the best defensive LF of all time.
Griffey and Pujols clear bonds as hitters but I agree with the overall game hes a top 10 position player of all time
Why is Commissioner Selig in the HOF because Sosa, McGwire and Bonds where nuking the balls in the stands.
Hearing and listening to David. Reminds me of being a 10 years old and copying his batting stance in little league.. cool memories for sure
It’s guys who popped test in the Hall aka Jeff Bagwell
Yes
Don’t forget that Pudge Rodriguez, Craig Biggio and Big Papi all were named and voted in the HOF
Wait what.... Jeff Bagwell got in??? 😂😂😂😂😂 The HOF is a joke.
@@AaronLesterMedia🤣
I didn't know Iced T played for the Yankees 😂 ⚾
Bonds tested positive
David Justice STOOD ON BIDNESS!! 💪🏿💪🏿
Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame. Jim Thome is in and no one will ever convince me he wasn't on steroids.
What?!? Jim Thome is the least likely to be on roids. His body did not change at all while he played. He had a beautiful swing with near perfect launch angle and grown man power.
Thome I don’t think even went to the gym tbh. All he did was hit HRs. Zero athletic ability. Was never the best player on his team. I had Justice rated above Thome as a kid in my infallible and unquestionable hierarchy of 90s baseball players. Thome is one of the lowest rated players in my rankings who is in the HOF. Lofton, Justice, Belle, Ramirez were all better players. Thome was not a good fielder, did not hit for average, so bad at moving runners over. He got on base a lot, but ran like he was carrying a piano. Zero impact outside of his ABs which means he’s not a good player in my infallible rankings. He’s not in my HOF.
@@davruck1agreed. I think they started adding to many good players to the hall. Thome was pretty good to me and played a long career. He was not great imo. They started running out of greats imo. Then too many got implicated with roids
Ivan Rodriguez was on the list and made the HOF...
Canseco messed all of them up.
Keshawn calls david "Keyshawn"😅😂😂
Barry didn't need steroids, he was great before the accusations.
Making it all the more egregious that he cheated IMO. I was a humongous fan of his from the late eighties into the late 90s. Once he obviously started cheating, he lost me. I don't give guys a pass because they were great BEFORE they cheated, because they still cheated.
@@snerdterguson Was he ever caught cheating? Never tested positive, but you say he cheated?
@@thechi2848 Come on man, it’s obvious he was on the juice.
It’s guys who popped test in the Hall aka Tim Raines
Yes
Awww. When he brought up people on the list that’s in the Hall. And when called out he said I don’t wanna say anything. But YOU brought it up !!!!
DJ nailed it when he said Rose and Bonds will get in when they're dead. The hall definitely wants those names in but they aren't about to give either of them a live microphone at the ceremony.
Bonds should 100% be in the HOF, anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
Barry Bonds is the Goat🥱
This was my first time hearing David Justice talk. He’s great on the mic
Point blank: we'll never see another player like Barry Bonds ever again in the MLB. Between 2001-2004 Bonds was in video game mode
He won the MVP, Silver Slugger and Gold Glove in 90, 92 and 93... That is created player achievements right there
He was on steroid mode 😂
I’m a lifelong Dodgers fan. I hate the Giants. As a huge Mark McGwire fan (with all his cards from my childhood), I hate Barry Bonds. Seems like a lot of people don’t like Barry Bonds. That said, Barry Bonds should absolutely be in the HOF. Period. (Pete Rose, too)
More justice please 😂🔥
I enjoyed this conversation.
Bonds absolutely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame!!! All those writers who voted him MVP after he was suspected on steroids why did they still vote him for the MVP? Yet these same voters now don’t want to vote him for the Hall??
Oddly enough Barry Bonds probably would be in the Hall of Fame if he had signed with the Braves in 1993, especially when you consider he was almost traded there in 1992.
I agree. Should have came to the A
He’d be too busy winning championships to worry about taking steroids! 😂
David Justice knows whats up
If ANYONE tells you. "I'm not trying to set you up" before you had a chance to say those words. The INTENT is CLEARLY there.
Justice is spot on! The media hates Bonds. He was a Hall of Famer in 98. I don’t care what anyone says show me where steroids make your hand eye coordination better. He is the greatest player I ever saw play…period! Keeping him out takes nothing away from his greatness!!
Don't think so 😂
Steroids makes your stronger not to increase your hand eye coordination. He simply turned doubles into home runs
We can’t just pick and choose- biggio, bagwell, piazza, thome are in HOF- there were rumors about them- if you’re Great you should be in- to not have bonds, Clemons, Ramirez, and Rodriguez in HOF is ridiculous and makes baseball HOF a joke
nobody ever played the game as hard as pete rose... its sad what they did to him while the nfl puts joe namath on the pedestal that they do
david justice got that cool jazz uncle swag
Bonds was an absolutely great player. Not only was he an exceptional hitter well before the rood era hit, and his own obvious use, but he was a threat on the basepaths and a plus defender in every OF spot he played. I personally believe he put together a HoF worthy career prior to 2000, but is that enough after the roid era? That I cannot say. If I had a vote, I think I would eventually vote Barry in… but not until it was his last ballot eligible year.
As for Pete, the moment the MLB got into bed with betting agencies, thus creating the same manner of potential corruption that Pete was accused of…. Pete Rose and any of the HoF worthy Black Sox should have been put in.
I thought it was just ME - I'm black and baseball is my favorite sport and have been watching since 1970. I been telling people for years they gonna put Charlie (pete rose) Hustle in after he dies!!! Barry was a BEAST and so was Roger - 3 of the GREATEST EVER!!!
Wait wait wait…hold up. HOLD UP. 3:27 Did Keyshawn accidentally call David Justice, Keyshawn? 😅😅😅
I love it when people make stupid statements and then freeze when you ask them to back it up.
Barry was absolutely a solidified HOFer before anyone alleged he started using. He was a 3x MVP with multiple GGs. For David Oritz to be in the hall and Barry Bonds not to be is completely and totally illogical and absurd. I hope the old timers committee rights a lot of these wrongs, but they probably won't.
He’s the best hitter I’ve ever seen so I would say so
People should read the Balco book because it explains why Bonds started juicing. He was at the MLB all star game in Japan in 2000. He saw all these average players on the juice creeping up to his numbers, so he started cycling to show that they were not at his level. it worked. His numbers went off the charts from 2001 to 2004. It is the same with Lance Armstrong.
I'm not a huge baseball fan but I'm really liking these clips with David Justice. Him and Key have a good rapport.
Barry was a beast!!!!
Barry bonds is the best player I’ve ever seen.
Me too !
David justice needs to be on some type of podcast or tv for real
Did Keyshawn call Dave - Keyshawn? lol 😂
Steroids followed Nolan Ryan. Nobody speaks on it. Go look at it. Barry Bonds is the best hitter ever. I was in college baseball in 03-06.. ppl was juicing.. if i could have got to AA. I wood have😂😂
“I was pull college in 03-06.” Yet you struggle to formulate sentences, and you don’t know the difference between “wood” and “would”. You wouldn’t even be allowed on a college campus. Get out of here with this BS.
Oh, and Nolan was not once accused of steroid use. Not one single time. In fact, Tom House has stated that he tried to get Nolan to use them, and Nolan threatened to report him for it.
@@Unlitedsoul you got me 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ I didn't graduate 🤣🤣🤣.
Nolan Ryan is the godfather.
@Unlitedsoul
Grammar police👮♂️👮♀️ Alert😂🤡
_Juiced_ by Jose Canseco. 📚
Barry the 🐐
Barry Bonds doesn't deserve to breath the same air of the hall of fame no less be in it
NO WAY! The message this would send to everyone is horrible. Cheaters should never prosper. I'm not surprised this is being discussed given the abject lack of ethics in sports today.
BARRY BONDS .. SHOELESS JOE JACKSON .. ROGER CLEMENS .. PETE ROSE .. GARY SHEFFIELD .. MARK MCGWIRE .. SAMMY SOSA .. MANNY RAMIREZ .. RAFAEL PALMEIRO .. ALEX RODRIGUEZ .. JUAN GONZALEZ .. ALL SHOULD BE IN THE MLB ⚾ HALL OF FAME ..
Facts all should be in
They shouldn’t, cheaters shouldn’t be allowed in.
What I hate is that people who never played and probably couldn’t even throw a baseball or swing a bat are the ones voting. I think former major league players should vote because they understand what it takes to be a major league player. Big Mac should be in too and Sammy Sosa Manny Ramirez and countless others from that great era Albert Belle Sheffield on and on
Bonds had a chance to get in 2 years ago. It was his first year after 10 years on the writters ballot and his contemporaries did NOT vote him in and it wasnt close. 12 player vote and he needed 9, i believe his total was less then 3.
The voters were all players who played against him and they played him a lot. There were 4 braves that voted and thats how mcgrif got elected to the hof. Even the other players dont like him.
Personally i vote him in and its a crime. Selig is in the hof, let that sink in.
The head swells for one thing, and new muscles grow that aren't normal, plus you can compare features and easily tell, so they are going to make ones you can't tell maybe.
David Justice is a blast from the past, dude needs to get out more and share his thoughts!!
Barry is the greatest player I have ever seen
Are you serious 😂
Name, names, then@@jamesdavis8937
David Justice, bro, thanks. You say it like it is. 👍🏼
This is definitely Keyshawn’s lane! Great show
Bonds the GOAT...
DJ is my all time favorite player and I know he’s gotta protect the fraternity or whatever, but BONDS used steroids, the balco documentary confirmed that- he also used “the clear”, this is confirmed as well.
Also aside from the juice, he was a legendary horrible human being and teammate. Made Ty Cobb look like Mr rogers. Bonds is where he needs to be, at home reflecting on his bad decisions
Is the list on google??
Man , we must protect David Justice at all costs ✊🏿🔥🔥
1:25 Justice kno how the game played playa 😂😂😂
They pick and chose who they tested !
Pete Rose should be in the HOF before anybody else is let in!
Those are some NICE GLASSES Mr. Justice! What kind/brand are they???
David Justice should have his own show. He’s great.
LOOK at that list & just how MANY Yankees players was on that list ? Did they take AWAY any of there Champion ships titles , NO ! You think the trainers , C [ TORRE ] the owner didn't know any thing about this , the Com's [ Bud ] who is also in the HOF , PLEASE . You better think again .