"If the people making the movie or show don't understand what people liked about the franchise, they're the ones that aren't real fans." Wow, really well put.
You got a new sub. This was so good. "If the people making the movie or show don't understand what people liked about the franchise, they're the ones that aren't real fans." was the best description of modern Hollywood I have heard all day
The only thing that matters to a corporation is the bottom line. If you threaten not to watch, you have to be willing to follow through on that threat or else they won't notice. When they start losing money, then it matters to them.
Usually. Except in cases like Disney that are so badly run that the people at the top just do not care. They chose politics over making money and have repeatedly doubled down on that. It is not just picking on one company, there are companies that are like this. Yes, they usually fail and keep failing until those people are removed, but it does happen.
You also take into account BlackRock the investment company. Their executives have publicly admitted to forcing certain kinds of thought, such as ESG taking precedence over everything. They're funding most of these companies that constantly choose politics
Fans: We don't like what you're doing with the Indiana Jones and Star Wars franchise. Disney: We don't really listen to the fans. They need to shut up and grow up and accept the drek we gift them with. Fans: Ok..... guess we'll just play a video game or stream something from Apple TV+ until you figure it out.
I like your point about how a product can be not worth your TIME as well as not worth your money. A movie or show has to pass a pretty high bar to be worth my time. Brand loyalty is not enough.
I saw New Hope in first run. I stood in line in Chicago for tickets to The Empire Strikes Back. It was a dedicated week leading up to the return of the jedi. Then it appeared to be over. The three movies were there for repeat viewing. Spaceballs rocked. Then came the prequels, the sequels, and the spin offs. I'll watch the new stuff, but 'star Wars" was closed in 83
Dang, I absolutely love when I find a double-digit creator who has the potential of a six-digit one! Your points were very well-said, and the actual message here is one that I don't see anyone else discussing. If ever someone would ask me why I'm still a member of the Star Wars fandom, I'll point them to this video! From a new sub :D
The problem is that fans have gone too far, it's like they think they OWN the franchises. but they don't, and they need to recognize that and stop acting like they think these things should be custom made for them.
While I agree with most of what you said, I think it‘s also important that you keep the discussion about what you dislike/hate respectful. Don‘t harass the creators and people who like the content you don‘t.
When you said that you had 12 subscribers, I _was_ laughing, because I thought that was a joke. Then, I looked at the current subscriber count, imagining over 100,000, and I saw 286. Thankfully, it looks like you just started a month ago (or two weeks before this video came out), but even so, you deserve so many more subscribers! The quality of the videos and your content should put you on the path to over 100,000 subscribers within two years, I'd guess, if you keep this up! Good luck!
I have this friend that's a big MCU fan and whenever I ask if a show or a movie is worth watching, some replies tend to be 'you need to watch that to get what's happening'. I just say 'nope, not worth my time.' Like that's the purpose-not great characters, action, comedy, or heavens forbid, entertainment value?
I feel like after reading A Song of Ice and Fire, it's clear that Game of Thrones was going to be a dumpster fire from the beginning after they started veering from the books. THey left out almost all of the magical elements from the books and that is a huge underlying element of the story. It's the abuse of magic and the consequences that leads to so much conflict
15/100 rule(make 15% of the fictional piece obvious, while having the audience figure out the rest of the 85%) is the best takeaway from this video for anyone who's into creative writing, hands down
I really liked Rogue One. It is by far my favorite show/movie so far by a landslide. (Aside from the Bad Batch) (I'll admit I haven't seen Andor, I kinda stopped watching stuff after watching The Mandalorian Season 3)
Well you've made a huge mistake lol. Andor is a prequel to Rogue One and it's the best thing Star Wars has put out since.... Star Wars. Go check it out!
The first time I seen Kathleen Kennedy wearing The Force is Female t-shirt, I knew I was not included if only by its faulty reasoning. This is a poisonous attitude and it taints my enthusiasm for anything Star Wars. It was once my beloved trilogy, then The Mandalorian gave me something new to love till he ends up lounging on the porch looking out for Grogoo and someone else is now the star. As the star is now female... fool me once.
It's also okay to like something that other people do not. I see the same things in Star Wars now that drew me to it when I was a kid. I don't have to prove it to anyone why, because that seems to be what brings the flies to try to call you out on your crap, in their opinion. Now that, that is a waste of my time. I'll keep enjoying what I want.
I don’t know if I can be considered a fan, but I enjoy the first Indiana Jones movie and the first two Terminator movies. Those movies are near perfect and their sequels feel like someone trying to catch lightning in a bottle.
not everyone that complains is a fan. there's a lot of clickbait youtubers (that clickbait and go to trends) and grifters and people who have agendas (for example in DC people who want snyder back by all means necessary and will force themselves not to like the new product and cancel James Gunn). So not everyone is super honest about their objective evaluations because of bias and agendas and influence of people around them.
They had to Neuter Luke because feminists don't think a "strong woman" can shine if there is a strong man around. In other words. They made Luke weak (and stupid) for Rey. Calling fans sexist was just to cover for their bad writing.
Here is another comparison when it comes to Star Wars and fans that are critical of Disney’s treatment of the franchise. The fans are like Uncle Iroh while Lucasfilm is Zuko. When The Last Jedi came out, it was like when Zuko betrayed Iroh at the end of the season two finale of The Last Airbender.
Andor and Secret Invasion (so far) is the only good things to come out of SW/Marvel the last few years. Weirdly enough, they have both gone a completely different route than the standard content.
Man, it's Rough being a Star Wars fan in 2023 most of the new stuff feels like a bait and switch for another "Strong female character" to push aside the person we came for like kenobi or mando. but there have been times like the The Bad Batch, for example, where they absolutely manage to look and feel amazing but also capture the magic that made me love star wars in the first place.
Speaking of mishandled franchises, how about WestWorld. I feel they messed that one up badly. Loved season 1 and the premise it was going for. Then with season 2, I feel they increased a number of things that I felt weren't very good, ie namely the complexity of the plot. They turned the complexity up to 11, and possibly to hide the plot, and there was only one episode I felt was truly great in Season 2, and it was the Akecheta episode which felt like a more straightforward story compared to most episodes, and it was better for it. I really wanted more of that kind of storytelling out of it. Season 3 was quite odd and by the end of that season, I thought for sure it would be the end of it, given how the season finale ended. So, I was surprised when they announced a 4th season, but somehow not so surprised at the fact that it felt like it had run out of steam and unsure of what it really wanted to be with the mess of a story it was trying to tell. And the story? Umm well.. Complexity is not necessarily good, because more often than not, a good story should be able to stand on its own. For all those mental gymnastics, there had better be a good payoff, but there wasn't.
For me star wars is about the force. It's the most interesting thing about the world and something that can't be mimicked by real life. Anything can have character relationships and crap dialogue. I want lore of the force and it's users. Powers and lightsabers. Imagining being a freaking badass force welding lightsaber swinging unstoppable monster of a being is the awesome. So the new stuff all sucks. It's boring. Barely any good action and all the characters are written like a toddler wrote them. The bad guys are supposed to be evil. I want to see them be evil. I want them to torture, murder and manipulate to get what they want. I don't need a stupid love story between the hero and the villain.
Have you seen the Indiana Jones rape episode from South Park? :D It summed up pretty well what we thought and felt :D Also in a recent episode Randy asked Kyle (who supposedly ran Hollywood) why do they do so many shitty movies :D
people against marvel rebuilding kinda baffles me tbh. "oh the movies for the post climatic pieces arent as good as the climatic pieces" of fucking course not. Have you heard of setup? Things need time to breathe in order for you to have another climax like that. Where were you in Iron man 2? Thor 2?
Bo-Karen, the villain, shoehorned as the her-o and sidelining Din, The Mandalorian, in his own show is peak anti-Star Wars. Dissney is promoting terr0rism, ra*ism and narcissism instead of wholesome stories with good moral lessons now. #DinDjarinForMandalore #SpaceKarenIsNotMyMandalore #MandaloreTheBeskarHeart #FanficIsTheWay #FanfilmsAreTheFuture
I thought the Bad Batch was okay, but gets carried hard by how good the animation is, and has a lot of filler. I haven't seen season 2 yet but thought season 1 was pretty forgettable. I think it could get better with time though, Clone Wars took a while to find its stride also.
@@captainjakemerica4579 Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Dark World, Antman and the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Age of Ultron, even Endgame was terrible at moments. Truth is the MCU was never that great and it never respected the comics, especially the way it treated its villains.
@mrsinisterstag7147 no way many of those movies are amazing and Avengers Age of Ultron only gets better with Age and nah you reaching about Avengers Endgame
@@captainjakemerica4579 Age of Ultron is underrated I agree and in some cases I’d say it works better than the first Avengers, however Ultron should never be a one-off villain. Now Endgame is the opposite, it gets worse over time, the writing is nowhere near as good as Infinity War and it just screws up the rules of time travel so badly.
While I agree with the praise and critique part, I'd also add and move on. One doesn't need 33 tiktoks and 13 youtube videos describing why the didn't like the Last Jedi. It's okay if you got to Boruto ep 79 and decided it sucks, fine. But if you felt it sucked after episode 2, why did you watch the next 77 episodes?
Production companies do not listen to a word the fans say. This is true for movies, tv shows, games, what have you. The ONLY thing they listen to is your wallet. If you don't like something, stop paying for it. I find it highly irritating when some neckbeard goes on a wall of text rant about why something isn't up to their exacting standards. If you don't like something, shut up and vote with your dollars. They're not going to listen to your analysis of why the thing is bad, so don't waste both our time. Just stop paying for it.
Some of my thoughts Having the Emperor come back to life doesn't undo the character arcs and heroic sacrifices of the other characters . Thos actions still happened . The War still ended. What screws the whole thing up is the Government that took over was still corrupt and was still taken over by the first order and that eximperials didn't join the fight against the First order or that exrebbles didn't join the first order. The Emperor (and a huge chunk of throne room) surviving the explosion of the Death Star THAT is stupid those movies suffer from a lot of lost opportunities which is a whole other topic. An other thought of criticism is that hating a character, movie or idea when that idea involves an other race or an other culture does not make you against that race or culture. It just acknowledges a bad idea . People who hate ideas that involve other cultures do not hate that idea "Because an other culture was part of it" there hate of that idea exists regardless of who came up with it. The use of CGI is not bad or fake. CGI when done right, looks superior to models and often you can't tell fake things from real things. New TV shows and Movies are good. People just can't see that because those new things don't match the fan's fanfictions There is such a thing as people who just want to hate some thing . This happens when any one else can see the movie IS good. People hated Superman returns, so the Studio gave them Man of Steel. People hated Man of Steel so the Studio gave them Flash and then people hated Flash There is such a thing as fans never being happy no matter what studios do. Some studios, they try. they put all the things fans say they like and want in a story and then fans still hate it. If fans would just like movies we wouldn't have reboots and canceled projects and crunch time. You Know why Rey is a Palpatine? Because fans were mad that she came from No One. people with complaints need to make there own movies.
This is such a dismissive comment. "People with complaints need to make there own movies." By that logic if the mccdonalds employee serves an uncooked burger the customer can't complain unless they can cook a burger. I know very few people who just want to hate something. it's not nearly a prevalent as you think it is. CGI can be good but it's not inherently good and oftentimes has an uncanny valley effect that physical models often lack. "New TV shows and Movies are good. People just can't see that because those new things don't match the fan's fanfictions" I disagree while some do enter into movies with extreme expectations number one that is often the fault of the companies for fueling hype culture. Most people don't carry fan fictions into the movietheater
@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster I stand by that statement. "make your own" does not apply to every one but it applies to a lot. A lot of people can make there own. What you said too can apply If you are mad that no one makes a product that you want it is with in your power to make it your self. Etsy, RUclips, Deviant Art, New Grounds these sites are BUILT on the idea that if it does not exist we can make it exist. Humans have talent they only need motivation and resources. But rather then make new things, we too often take an existing thing and try to change it. Benjamin Caron, JJ Abrams, Timothy Zahn they all understood this. If you want to make some thing happen in Star Wars make your own. Frank Miller knew this so did Bruce Timm so did Satoshi Tajiri and Doug Walker, James Rolfe and FXitinPost so did batinthesun so did Jan Animations. The world is full of people who "Made it them selves" Leave Jimmy Olsen alone and tell your own story with your own character. People might enjoy it. There is also a great deal of perspective you are missing by not being part of the process. You don't know the work that goes in to a job that is actually well done and maybe doesn't meet your standards but people still worked hard on it. Why talk as if there was some moral obligation to do better? When a product is really truly bad it deserves to be called out. But when your complaint is "The star of the movie was the wrong color" or "this character has the wrong back story" then its time to make your own. physical models can also look incredibly fake. Enough that it takes me out of the movie. Lizards with horns glues to there heads, giant gorillas who are clearly just a guy in a suit, two men fighting on top of a train and one is clearly a dummy there are a lot of good effects out there. Ray Harryhausen, and Phil Tippett are masters of there craft but some times in a film, you can just SEE the strings and zippers, the glass eyes, the stuffing, the slight green outline. Some times fake is fake weather its CGI or plastic , some times you can just tell. Any one who wanted Rey to be a Kenobi or Finn to be a Jedi carried there fan fictions with them in to the theaters. Thats what I did when I saw The Wizard. I created my own story in my head based on the poster about video game characters coming to life and entering the real world and The Wizard let me down. Then Pixels let me down again. Ready Player One got my idea right. Ready Player One IS the movie that was in my head when I saw The Wizard. Same for the Illumination Super Mario Brothers. that is scene for scene exactly what was in my head when I saw the live action Mario movie that is MY idea exactly on film exactly how I would have written it. Thats why the animated film is a better movie then the live action one. They got it right. Many movies and Tv shows today are getting it right like The Owl House, Turning Red, The Mario Movie, the upcoming TMNT animated film, into the Spiderverse. Many other things were at there BEST in the PAST Batman TAS, Heir to the Empire and they got taken and changed and the change was bad. Some movies, Like The Wizard of Oz , got changed for there source material and have since them become iconic , near impossible to return to how they were before those changes and now open to countless retellings. There can always be an other version of The Christmas Carrol. But some stories are told right once. If you think Back to the Future was a bad movie, don't remake it or reboot it, instead make your own time travel film with your own characters. You can't fix what's not broken
The thing is, while it is ok to say that you don't like something, it's NOT ok to insult or belittle that thing and/or the people who made it in the process. Which, unfortunately, is what so many of those commenters are doing, hence the responses.
Shows do not get worse because not enough people complain about it. Most of the time, including all of the examples provided, they get bad because of studio and production issues that interfere with the artistic vision. Fans complained non stop about a lot of these and about half the time fan opinions are equally shit and maybe even worse than those of the show runners. More random people annoying and harassing artists for their art going bad isn’t gonna solve anything
I'm always shocked by the fact that people always complaining that Scarlet Witch's story arc doesn't make any sense. I think it does actually she was doing bad things because she was manipulated by the book. It took over her mind. And Black Bolt wouldn't just attack her out-of-the-blue for one because she's a good person and just under the influence of a bad evil book and that would be totally out-of-character for anyone but an antihero to do. Wanda's plans not need to make sense because she's not thinking straight she's not in her right mind. She's under the control dark hold
The picture from the thumbnail is from WandaVision, referring to how at the end of the show, she faces no consequences for what she has done to the town, and it’s treated like she did a selfless thing. I don’t have a problem with her appearance in MoM
Just responding to the thumbnail: Wanda was NOT "instantly forgiven", she came to her senses at the last minute and SACRIFICED HERSELF to put a stop to the nightmare she'd set in motion. What more punishment do people want than the DEATH PENALTY, which she paid at the end of the film? And that's not even getting into the fact that she was corrupted by the Darkhold which is well known as having the power to influence and actually take control of minds which is one of the things that makes it so dangerous. Just coming into contact with it, let alone reading any of it, makes whoever does so vulnerable to being taken over by the demonic Elder God Cthon and very, very few mortal beings can resist his diabolical power. Bottom line: Yes what she did was wrong, but the stuff she did in WandaVision was a result of trauma-induced insanity and in Multiverse of Madness was due to demonic mind control. And regardless if you think that absolves her of guilt (under the law, it would) she's DEAD and paid the ultimate price for all she'd done. She got away with nothing, she isn't in prison or an asylum because she's dead and her corpse is pulped meat squished under a million tons of mountain.
The picture in the Thumbnail is from WandaVision. In that show, at the end of the story, she isn’t held accountable for what she did by enslaving the town. They frame it as a heroic sacrifice that she stops doing something incredibly evil and selfish. I’m not saying you can’t empathize with her in that show, but there is zero accountability of what she’s done. I agree that in Doctor Strange 2 she does get punished, she actually has a pretty similar redemption to Doc sock from Spiderman 2, which I like
@@HeadCannon1624 TL;dr she was literally insane and thus cannot be held liable for actions she wasn't even consciously aware of or able to control. Full: Do you realize she wasn't aware of what she was doing until quite a ways into doing it and was in fact under her own illusion for a good portion of the series? And that she was pushed into this dissociative delusional state by extreme trauma? Because that's a fact that many seem to gloss over at best if they're even aware of it, acting as if she deliberately set out to do all she did consciously and with malice aforethought. That is not the case. The fact is that NOBODY, including Wanda herself, knew her powers could even DO that. She certainly didn't trigger the effect consciously or deliberately, what happened was she completely snapped and fell into a delusional state where her mind denied the horrible reality she couldn't face and couldn't handle. This is a real phenomenon that some trauma victims actually suffer, where they become detached from a reality that is too horrible and overwhelming for them to be able to process and remain functional. Normally, such an individual would become withdrawn and catatonic or at best operate under a delusion filter imposed on reality by their own broken mind, but in her case she subconsciously tapped into her powers in order to manifest that internal delusion as external reality. She was in deep denial, with her mind clinging to the false reality and rejecting anything that would disrupt it as a defense mechanism against coming to terms with her trauma. Times where she got close to lucidity, and took more conscious action, were a fragment of her psyche manifesting to in order to maintain that defense mechanism before lulling her conscious mind into forgetting she'd even done it. The flashbacks we saw were her unlocking those repressed memories for the first time since her breakdown, slowly becoming aware of things that contradicted her delusion and slowly coming to realize the truth of what was happening. As time went on, she grew closer to lucidity and the delusion slowly weakened as her mind pieced together what it had been hiding from itself. That she managed to accomplish this without medication and psychotherapy is borderline miraculous and probably a case of fudging how mental illness really works in order to have a plot that progresses and isn't just years of her in a rubber room. In legal terms, there's no way she would be convicted because she was clearly not in control of her actions and had utterly lost possession of her mental faculties. Legal culpability requires the offender to be aware of what they're doing, able to make a choice, able to determine right from wrong, and choosing to do wrong. She utterly failed to meet those criteria and would be judged incompetent to stand trial. Instead, she would be remanded to a mental institution for mandatory treatment indefinitely.
@@darthmeow1370 It's not okay to dislike crazy people who who hurt other people, and defending an unlikable protagonist in a boring TV show, the novel.
@@darthmeow1370 I'm picking up what you're putting down, even if nobody else is. Like, Tony Stark was responsible for levelling her birthplace, but cries for accountability aren't ever sent his way; Loki is also enduringly beloved despite his many intentionally dishonourable acts. But yeah, those poor folks in Westview, huh. Thoughts and prayers etc.
You should remain emotionally attached to a character when they were written well, but do not pardon or excuse the character when their written poorly or by people with bad intentions. I've seen beloved characters made into mocking parodies of the characters I once loved, and always by people who do not understand or care about what made those characters appealing, all that matters is their agenda and using the character for their own end. Example, I've liked Venom since the 90s comics, he was my favorite anti hero, and yet his first on screen debut on spiderman 3 was absolute garbage. Then the tom hardy venom movies came along and they became just like the character I loved, so I now erase spiderman 3s venom from my mind and only accept the original comics and tom hardy movies as being the character I love.
"If the people making the movie or show don't understand what people liked about the franchise, they're the ones that aren't real fans." Wow, really well put.
You got a new sub. This was so good. "If the people making the movie or show don't understand what people liked about the franchise, they're the ones that aren't real fans." was the best description of modern Hollywood I have heard all day
The only thing that matters to a corporation is the bottom line. If you threaten not to watch, you have to be willing to follow through on that threat or else they won't notice. When they start losing money, then it matters to them.
Usually. Except in cases like Disney that are so badly run that the people at the top just do not care. They chose politics over making money and have repeatedly doubled down on that. It is not just picking on one company, there are companies that are like this. Yes, they usually fail and keep failing until those people are removed, but it does happen.
You also take into account BlackRock the investment company. Their executives have publicly admitted to forcing certain kinds of thought, such as ESG taking precedence over everything. They're funding most of these companies that constantly choose politics
Fans: We don't like what you're doing with the Indiana Jones and Star Wars franchise.
Disney: We don't really listen to the fans. They need to shut up and grow up and accept the drek we gift them with.
Fans: Ok..... guess we'll just play a video game or stream something from Apple TV+ until you figure it out.
I like your point about how a product can be not worth your TIME as well as not worth your money. A movie or show has to pass a pretty high bar to be worth my time. Brand loyalty is not enough.
I saw New Hope in first run. I stood in line in Chicago for tickets to The Empire Strikes Back. It was a dedicated week leading up to the return of the jedi. Then it appeared to be over. The three movies were there for repeat viewing. Spaceballs rocked. Then came the prequels, the sequels, and the spin offs. I'll watch the new stuff, but 'star Wars" was closed in 83
Dang, I absolutely love when I find a double-digit creator who has the potential of a six-digit one! Your points were very well-said, and the actual message here is one that I don't see anyone else discussing. If ever someone would ask me why I'm still a member of the Star Wars fandom, I'll point them to this video!
From a new sub :D
Great video and you are right that its important for fans to voice their displeasure. Otherwise franchises will never improve.
The problem is that fans have gone too far, it's like they think they OWN the franchises. but they don't, and they need to recognize that and stop acting like they think these things should be custom made for them.
@@Shadowkey392 Who has ever said that they OWN the franchise, that has never happened.
I agree with you, I've lost count of how many times I've been called a bigot, fake fan, or a bad person simply for criticizing a product I don't like
5:30 "You'd be hard=pressed to find a more mis-managed franchise"
Star Trek
I didn't even notice your subscriber count till you mentioned it. Was just enjoying the video thinking you're an OG😂.
May the algorithm gods apease you lad and may you grow
It started 🙏🏽
While I agree with most of what you said, I think it‘s also important that you keep the discussion about what you dislike/hate respectful. Don‘t harass the creators and people who like the content you don‘t.
Why not, they harass us, evil for evil is a more than fair reaction.
When you said that you had 12 subscribers, I _was_ laughing, because I thought that was a joke. Then, I looked at the current subscriber count, imagining over 100,000, and I saw 286. Thankfully, it looks like you just started a month ago (or two weeks before this video came out), but even so, you deserve so many more subscribers! The quality of the videos and your content should put you on the path to over 100,000 subscribers within two years, I'd guess, if you keep this up! Good luck!
Well said! You are a true fan.
I have this friend that's a big MCU fan and whenever I ask if a show or a movie is worth watching, some replies tend to be 'you need to watch that to get what's happening'. I just say 'nope, not worth my time.' Like that's the purpose-not great characters, action, comedy, or heavens forbid, entertainment value?
We’ll said video, very good quality for a smaller channel keep it goin dude
I feel like after reading A Song of Ice and Fire, it's clear that Game of Thrones was going to be a dumpster fire from the beginning after they started veering from the books. THey left out almost all of the magical elements from the books and that is a huge underlying element of the story. It's the abuse of magic and the consequences that leads to so much conflict
Enjoyed the video! Subscribed!
15/100 rule(make 15% of the fictional piece obvious, while having the audience figure out the rest of the 85%) is the best takeaway from this video for anyone who's into creative writing, hands down
I really liked Rogue One. It is by far my favorite show/movie so far by a landslide. (Aside from the Bad Batch) (I'll admit I haven't seen Andor, I kinda stopped watching stuff after watching The Mandalorian Season 3)
Well you've made a huge mistake lol. Andor is a prequel to Rogue One and it's the best thing Star Wars has put out since.... Star Wars. Go check it out!
The first time I seen Kathleen Kennedy wearing The Force is Female t-shirt, I knew I was not included if only by its faulty reasoning. This is a poisonous attitude and it taints my enthusiasm for anything Star Wars. It was once my beloved trilogy, then The Mandalorian gave me something new to love till he ends up lounging on the porch looking out for Grogoo and someone else is now the star. As the star is now female... fool me once.
It's also okay to like something that other people do not. I see the same things in Star Wars now that drew me to it when I was a kid. I don't have to prove it to anyone why, because that seems to be what brings the flies to try to call you out on your crap, in their opinion. Now that, that is a waste of my time. I'll keep enjoying what I want.
I don’t know if I can be considered a fan, but I enjoy the first Indiana Jones movie and the first two Terminator movies. Those movies are near perfect and their sequels feel like someone trying to catch lightning in a bottle.
THANK. YOU!
Curiosuly Game of Thrones writing fell off when they ran out of George RR Martain.
not everyone that complains is a fan. there's a lot of clickbait youtubers (that clickbait and go to trends) and grifters and people who have agendas (for example in DC people who want snyder back by all means necessary and will force themselves not to like the new product and cancel James Gunn). So not everyone is super honest about their objective evaluations because of bias and agendas and influence of people around them.
I mean sure but that doesn't invalidate the actual fans that dislike the movie.
@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster sure, but it also doesn't cancel the fact that everyone saying bad things are fans
@@andrelima4125 That's my point
They had to Neuter Luke because feminists don't think a "strong woman" can shine if there is a strong man around.
In other words. They made Luke weak (and stupid) for Rey.
Calling fans sexist was just to cover for their bad writing.
Finally, hearing some truth!!!
Great video! Hope to see more
and I think we can both agree that Loki waaaas the best Marvel show. That one defffffinitely had some soul in it. I mean, it had OWEN WILSON. WOW
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Damn this is an underrated channel. Subbed.
Great Video. Like your take
great video, by the time you get 1k subs your videos will be even better.
Hope so!
Great video. Subbed
Very well said, looking forward to your future vids!!
Here is another comparison when it comes to Star Wars and fans that are critical of Disney’s treatment of the franchise. The fans are like Uncle Iroh while Lucasfilm is Zuko. When The Last Jedi came out, it was like when Zuko betrayed Iroh at the end of the season two finale of The Last Airbender.
Andor and Secret Invasion (so far) is the only good things to come out of SW/Marvel the last few years.
Weirdly enough, they have both gone a completely different route than the standard content.
Very informative video
This entire video sounds reasonable.
Man, it's Rough being a Star Wars fan in 2023 most of the new stuff feels like a bait and switch for another "Strong female character" to push aside the person we came for like kenobi or mando. but there have been times like the The Bad Batch, for example, where they absolutely manage to look and feel amazing but also capture the magic that made me love star wars in the first place.
Speaking of mishandled franchises, how about WestWorld. I feel they messed that one up badly. Loved season 1 and the premise it was going for. Then with season 2, I feel they increased a number of things that I felt weren't very good, ie namely the complexity of the plot. They turned the complexity up to 11, and possibly to hide the plot, and there was only one episode I felt was truly great in Season 2, and it was the Akecheta episode which felt like a more straightforward story compared to most episodes, and it was better for it. I really wanted more of that kind of storytelling out of it. Season 3 was quite odd and by the end of that season, I thought for sure it would be the end of it, given how the season finale ended. So, I was surprised when they announced a 4th season, but somehow not so surprised at the fact that it felt like it had run out of steam and unsure of what it really wanted to be with the mess of a story it was trying to tell. And the story? Umm well.. Complexity is not necessarily good, because more often than not, a good story should be able to stand on its own. For all those mental gymnastics, there had better be a good payoff, but there wasn't.
Season 7 of walking dead is fantastic. Killing Carl in season 8 was the jump the shark moment for me though
i like this
and now you have 74 subs
For me star wars is about the force. It's the most interesting thing about the world and something that can't be mimicked by real life. Anything can have character relationships and crap dialogue. I want lore of the force and it's users. Powers and lightsabers. Imagining being a freaking badass force welding lightsaber swinging unstoppable monster of a being is the awesome. So the new stuff all sucks. It's boring. Barely any good action and all the characters are written like a toddler wrote them. The bad guys are supposed to be evil. I want to see them be evil. I want them to torture, murder and manipulate to get what they want. I don't need a stupid love story between the hero and the villain.
Have you seen the Indiana Jones rape episode from South Park? :D It summed up pretty well what we thought and felt :D Also in a recent episode Randy asked Kyle (who supposedly ran Hollywood) why do they do so many shitty movies :D
people against marvel rebuilding kinda baffles me tbh. "oh the movies for the post climatic pieces arent as good as the climatic pieces" of fucking course not. Have you heard of setup? Things need time to breathe in order for you to have another climax like that. Where were you in Iron man 2? Thor 2?
Bo-Karen, the villain, shoehorned as the her-o and sidelining Din, The Mandalorian, in his own show is peak anti-Star Wars.
Dissney is promoting terr0rism, ra*ism and narcissism instead of wholesome stories with good moral lessons now.
#DinDjarinForMandalore
#SpaceKarenIsNotMyMandalore
#MandaloreTheBeskarHeart
#FanficIsTheWay
#FanfilmsAreTheFuture
She hulk could have been great but they dropped the ball completely.
its crazy to me that are people that think the mcu are still good after all horrible disney + shows they maded and all irrelevant movies after endgame
3:17 Did you like Bad Batch or Tales od the Jedi?
I thought the Bad Batch was okay, but gets carried hard by how good the animation is, and has a lot of filler. I haven't seen season 2 yet but thought season 1 was pretty forgettable. I think it could get better with time though, Clone Wars took a while to find its stride also.
@@HeadCannon1624 I think season 2 is definitely a step up from season 1. Have you seen Tales of the Jedi yet?
MCU is full of many great movies the hell you saying
It’s also full of a lot terrible movies. Yes even before Phase 4.
@@RedCommunistDragon Nah Infinity Saga had no black sheeps
@@captainjakemerica4579 Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Dark World, Antman and the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Age of Ultron, even Endgame was terrible at moments. Truth is the MCU was never that great and it never respected the comics, especially the way it treated its villains.
@mrsinisterstag7147 no way many of those movies are amazing and Avengers Age of Ultron only gets better with Age and nah you reaching about Avengers Endgame
@@captainjakemerica4579 Age of Ultron is underrated I agree and in some cases I’d say it works better than the first Avengers, however Ultron should never be a one-off villain. Now Endgame is the opposite, it gets worse over time, the writing is nowhere near as good as Infinity War and it just screws up the rules of time travel so badly.
While I agree with the praise and critique part, I'd also add and move on. One doesn't need 33 tiktoks and 13 youtube videos describing why the didn't like the Last Jedi. It's okay if you got to Boruto ep 79 and decided it sucks, fine. But if you felt it sucked after episode 2, why did you watch the next 77 episodes?
Production companies do not listen to a word the fans say. This is true for movies, tv shows, games, what have you. The ONLY thing they listen to is your wallet. If you don't like something, stop paying for it. I find it highly irritating when some neckbeard goes on a wall of text rant about why something isn't up to their exacting standards. If you don't like something, shut up and vote with your dollars. They're not going to listen to your analysis of why the thing is bad, so don't waste both our time. Just stop paying for it.
She-Hulk Attorney At Law isn't bad my God don't know why you're including that as the bad MCU projects
Some of my thoughts
Having the Emperor come back to life doesn't undo the character arcs and heroic sacrifices of the other characters . Thos actions still happened . The War still ended. What screws the whole thing up is the Government that took over was still corrupt and was still taken over by the first order and that eximperials didn't join the fight against the First order or that exrebbles didn't join the first order.
The Emperor (and a huge chunk of throne room) surviving the explosion of the Death Star THAT is stupid
those movies suffer from a lot of lost opportunities which is a whole other topic.
An other thought of criticism is that hating a character, movie or idea when that idea involves an other race or an other culture does not make you against that race or culture. It just acknowledges a bad idea . People who hate ideas that involve other cultures do not hate that idea "Because an other culture was part of it" there hate of that idea exists regardless of who came up with it.
The use of CGI is not bad or fake. CGI when done right, looks superior to models and often you can't tell fake things from real things.
New TV shows and Movies are good. People just can't see that because those new things don't match the fan's fanfictions
There is such a thing as people who just want to hate some thing . This happens when any one else can see the movie IS good.
People hated Superman returns, so the Studio gave them Man of Steel. People hated Man of Steel so the Studio gave them Flash and then people hated Flash There is such a thing as fans never being happy no matter what studios do. Some studios, they try. they put all the things fans say they like and want in a story and then fans still hate it. If fans would just like movies we wouldn't have reboots and canceled projects and crunch time. You Know why Rey is a Palpatine? Because fans were mad that she came from No One.
people with complaints need to make there own movies.
This is such a dismissive comment.
"People with complaints need to make there own movies." By that logic if the mccdonalds employee serves an uncooked burger the customer can't complain unless they can cook a burger.
I know very few people who just want to hate something. it's not nearly a prevalent as you think it is.
CGI can be good but it's not inherently good and oftentimes has an uncanny valley effect that physical models often lack.
"New TV shows and Movies are good. People just can't see that because those new things don't match the fan's fanfictions"
I disagree while some do enter into movies with extreme expectations number one that is often the fault of the companies for fueling hype culture. Most people don't carry fan fictions into the movietheater
@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster I stand by that statement.
"make your own" does not apply to every one but it applies to a lot. A lot of people can make there own. What you said too can apply If you are mad that no one makes a product that you want it is with in your power to make it your self. Etsy, RUclips, Deviant Art, New Grounds these sites are BUILT on the idea that if it does not exist we can make it exist. Humans have talent they only need motivation and resources. But rather then make new things, we too often take an existing thing and try to change it. Benjamin Caron, JJ Abrams, Timothy Zahn they all understood this. If you want to make some thing happen in Star Wars make your own. Frank Miller knew this so did Bruce Timm so did Satoshi Tajiri and Doug Walker, James Rolfe and FXitinPost so did batinthesun so did Jan Animations. The world is full of people who "Made it them selves" Leave Jimmy Olsen alone and tell your own story with your own character. People might enjoy it.
There is also a great deal of perspective you are missing by not being part of the process. You don't know the work that goes in to a job that is actually well done and maybe doesn't meet your standards but people still worked hard on it. Why talk as if there was some moral obligation to do better?
When a product is really truly bad it deserves to be called out. But when your complaint is "The star of the movie was the wrong color" or "this character has the wrong back story" then its time to make your own.
physical models can also look incredibly fake. Enough that it takes me out of the movie. Lizards with horns glues to there heads, giant gorillas who are clearly just a guy in a suit, two men fighting on top of a train and one is clearly a dummy there are a lot of good effects out there. Ray Harryhausen, and Phil Tippett are masters of there craft but some times in a film, you can just SEE the strings and zippers, the glass eyes, the stuffing, the slight green outline. Some times fake is fake weather its CGI or plastic , some times you can just tell.
Any one who wanted Rey to be a Kenobi or Finn to be a Jedi carried there fan fictions with them in to the theaters.
Thats what I did when I saw The Wizard. I created my own story in my head based on the poster about video game characters coming to life and entering the real world and The Wizard let me down. Then Pixels let me down again. Ready Player One got my idea right. Ready Player One IS the movie that was in my head when I saw The Wizard. Same for the Illumination Super Mario Brothers. that is scene for scene exactly what was in my head when I saw the live action Mario movie that is MY idea exactly on film exactly how I would have written it. Thats why the animated film is a better movie then the live action one. They got it right.
Many movies and Tv shows today are getting it right like The Owl House, Turning Red, The Mario Movie, the upcoming TMNT animated film, into the Spiderverse. Many other things were at there BEST in the PAST Batman TAS, Heir to the Empire and they got taken and changed and the change was bad. Some movies, Like The Wizard of Oz , got changed for there source material and have since them become iconic , near impossible to return to how they were before those changes and now open to countless retellings. There can always be an other version of The Christmas Carrol. But some stories are told right once. If you think Back to the Future was a bad movie, don't remake it or reboot it, instead make your own time travel film with your own characters. You can't fix what's not broken
Andor really wasn't good. It was just not as ridiculously bad as other stuff.
nah it was one of the best shows of the year
Wanda Vision es la mejor serie de Marvel
ok pal
The thing is, while it is ok to say that you don't like something, it's NOT ok to insult or belittle that thing and/or the people who made it in the process. Which, unfortunately, is what so many of those commenters are doing, hence the responses.
You don't have to respect the creators or the product if it's poorly made or has issues.
Shows do not get worse because not enough people complain about it. Most of the time, including all of the examples provided, they get bad because of studio and production issues that interfere with the artistic vision. Fans complained non stop about a lot of these and about half the time fan opinions are equally shit and maybe even worse than those of the show runners. More random people annoying and harassing artists for their art going bad isn’t gonna solve anything
"Harassment" is just code word for criticism that people don't want
I'm always shocked by the fact that people always complaining that Scarlet Witch's story arc doesn't make any sense. I think it does actually she was doing bad things because she was manipulated by the book. It took over her mind. And Black Bolt wouldn't just attack her out-of-the-blue for one because she's a good person and just under the influence of a bad evil book and that would be totally out-of-character for anyone but an antihero to do. Wanda's plans not need to make sense because she's not thinking straight she's not in her right mind. She's under the control dark hold
The picture from the thumbnail is from WandaVision, referring to how at the end of the show, she faces no consequences for what she has done to the town, and it’s treated like she did a selfless thing. I don’t have a problem with her appearance in MoM
@@HeadCannon1624 oh. I haven't seen that. But I do agree with your points.
Just responding to the thumbnail: Wanda was NOT "instantly forgiven", she came to her senses at the last minute and SACRIFICED HERSELF to put a stop to the nightmare she'd set in motion. What more punishment do people want than the DEATH PENALTY, which she paid at the end of the film? And that's not even getting into the fact that she was corrupted by the Darkhold which is well known as having the power to influence and actually take control of minds which is one of the things that makes it so dangerous. Just coming into contact with it, let alone reading any of it, makes whoever does so vulnerable to being taken over by the demonic Elder God Cthon and very, very few mortal beings can resist his diabolical power.
Bottom line: Yes what she did was wrong, but the stuff she did in WandaVision was a result of trauma-induced insanity and in Multiverse of Madness was due to demonic mind control. And regardless if you think that absolves her of guilt (under the law, it would) she's DEAD and paid the ultimate price for all she'd done. She got away with nothing, she isn't in prison or an asylum because she's dead and her corpse is pulped meat squished under a million tons of mountain.
The picture in the Thumbnail is from WandaVision. In that show, at the end of the story, she isn’t held accountable for what she did by enslaving the town. They frame it as a heroic sacrifice that she stops doing something incredibly evil and selfish. I’m not saying you can’t empathize with her in that show, but there is zero accountability of what she’s done. I agree that in Doctor Strange 2 she does get punished, she actually has a pretty similar redemption to Doc sock from Spiderman 2, which I like
@@HeadCannon1624 TL;dr she was literally insane and thus cannot be held liable for actions she wasn't even consciously aware of or able to control.
Full: Do you realize she wasn't aware of what she was doing until quite a ways into doing it and was in fact under her own illusion for a good portion of the series? And that she was pushed into this dissociative delusional state by extreme trauma? Because that's a fact that many seem to gloss over at best if they're even aware of it, acting as if she deliberately set out to do all she did consciously and with malice aforethought. That is not the case.
The fact is that NOBODY, including Wanda herself, knew her powers could even DO that. She certainly didn't trigger the effect consciously or deliberately, what happened was she completely snapped and fell into a delusional state where her mind denied the horrible reality she couldn't face and couldn't handle. This is a real phenomenon that some trauma victims actually suffer, where they become detached from a reality that is too horrible and overwhelming for them to be able to process and remain functional.
Normally, such an individual would become withdrawn and catatonic or at best operate under a delusion filter imposed on reality by their own broken mind, but in her case she subconsciously tapped into her powers in order to manifest that internal delusion as external reality. She was in deep denial, with her mind clinging to the false reality and rejecting anything that would disrupt it as a defense mechanism against coming to terms with her trauma. Times where she got close to lucidity, and took more conscious action, were a fragment of her psyche manifesting to in order to maintain that defense mechanism before lulling her conscious mind into forgetting she'd even done it.
The flashbacks we saw were her unlocking those repressed memories for the first time since her breakdown, slowly becoming aware of things that contradicted her delusion and slowly coming to realize the truth of what was happening. As time went on, she grew closer to lucidity and the delusion slowly weakened as her mind pieced together what it had been hiding from itself. That she managed to accomplish this without medication and psychotherapy is borderline miraculous and probably a case of fudging how mental illness really works in order to have a plot that progresses and isn't just years of her in a rubber room.
In legal terms, there's no way she would be convicted because she was clearly not in control of her actions and had utterly lost possession of her mental faculties. Legal culpability requires the offender to be aware of what they're doing, able to make a choice, able to determine right from wrong, and choosing to do wrong. She utterly failed to meet those criteria and would be judged incompetent to stand trial. Instead, she would be remanded to a mental institution for mandatory treatment indefinitely.
@@darthmeow1370 It's not okay to dislike crazy people who who hurt other people, and defending an unlikable protagonist in a boring TV show, the novel.
@@darthmeow1370 I'm picking up what you're putting down, even if nobody else is. Like, Tony Stark was responsible for levelling her birthplace, but cries for accountability aren't ever sent his way; Loki is also enduringly beloved despite his many intentionally dishonourable acts. But yeah, those poor folks in Westview, huh. Thoughts and prayers etc.
i really feel so sorry for Wanda she was my second crush of MCU and i hope she'll come back as a hero as im emotionally attach to her
You should remain emotionally attached to a character when they were written well, but do not pardon or excuse the character when their written poorly or by people with bad intentions.
I've seen beloved characters made into mocking parodies of the characters I once loved, and always by people who do not understand or care about what made those characters appealing, all that matters is their agenda and using the character for their own end.
Example, I've liked Venom since the 90s comics, he was my favorite anti hero, and yet his first on screen debut on spiderman 3 was absolute garbage. Then the tom hardy venom movies came along and they became just like the character I loved, so I now erase spiderman 3s venom from my mind and only accept the original comics and tom hardy movies as being the character I love.
Sounds like you’re are physically attached/attracted to her
@@MrOrcshaman i respect your opinion but i dont really give a shit about it its not my place to judge
@@patrickfitzgerald1354 so?
@@rudeegruenberg9184 it was a joke buddy. Nothing wrong with being physically attracted to a beautiful woman