thirteenfury the only difference is that in Pokemon the main characters and villains are both fun to watch (in my opinion anyway) high school musical on the other hand the main characters are cringy and the villains are better to watch
I was pretty indifferent to it. I felt like there wasn't enough plot and it was overly dramatic (that scene where she's singing and throws herself against the locker really made me laugh), and it was overall pretty boring. On the other hand, I enjoyed the dancing and the costume design. I know that last thing is kind of a weird thing to focus on, especially in a movie where everyone's just wearing civis, but... I like fashion, and I thought they had some really cute outfits.
I have no idea where I fall, honestly. I like it enough for nostalgia's case and from the bad movie lense. I loved it as a kid since I was their target audience. But now, I could care less and get bored when watching. It depends on my mood and how critical I want to be.
As of right now, I don't know how I feel about it. I enjoyed it enough the first few times I saw it but as I grew older I joined the bandwagon on hating it for the sake of hating it. Older again, I'm not really sure what to think of it. Though, I guess if anything, I'd lean more towards positive since I can at least remember bits and pieces of the songs.
I dated a girl once where we thought we should broaden each other's experience in movies. I made a deal with her to watch the entire original Star Wars trilogy, and I would watch the High School Musical movies. So I did, and she never fulfilled her promise. So I, being a patient understanding boyfriend, made the same deal again. She was to watch the Star Wars trilogy, and I would watch the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants movies. I watched them, she didn't. Needless to say, I moved on, and am now married to a better match.
Look Musicals thrive on a certain level of cheesiness. It's just impossible to have characters break out into a random song and dance number in inappropriate situations without without it coming of as camp and ridiculous. So the cheesy elements never really bothered me. It did a bit as a kid but i've since grown out of that and learned to appreciate this film for what it is.
Fair enough. Although High School Musical is definitely not trying to go for the same dark tone as Sweeny Todd or Les Miserable. It's aiming for a more Grease or Hairspray tone. Even then theres still an element of oddity to people breaking out into song for practically no reason (especially in Les Miserable's case since that takes place during the French Revolution).
See, this is a common misconception of musical theatre because the cheesy musicals constantly get pushed to the forefront. It is a medium of storytelling and there are many many musicals that don't fall into camp at all.
@Eaxl Except in great musicals like My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, The Sound of Music. Guys and Dolls, Singing in the Rain, Carousal, The King and I and even most recently La La Land plus various other great musical films throughout history there is context for why characters break into singing mid dialogue and it almost never comes off cheesy at all. All those films make it feel completely natural, believable and magical in those worlds and to the audience. For example at the beginning of My Fair Lady, Eliza Doolittle is reminiscing on the idea of opening a flower shop but cannot because she isn't a "Lady" as Professor Henry Higgins kept joyfully telling her. Once he leaves, she breaks into song imagining how lovely it would to become a "Lady" and have a much better life than the one she was having at that stage of the movie. That is completely natural because the song was set up in the context of the dialogue and the scene leading up to it. So @Fred Gwynn is absolutely spot on.
kevin willems the fact that you have to make up words against me means this conversation is over How High School Musical will always be the Catholic priest of Disney
I'm glad he added a comment about the weird, slightly incest-y subtext between Sharpay and Ryan (even weirder when one considers that Lucas Grabeel tried to play up Ryan as being gay).
CJCroen1393 again why this movie is so garbage and deserves to be burned in the hole farthest reaches of hell they're putting all this subliminal stuff in these Disney movies I had enough of it with the lion king and the Little Mermaid
This movie was a guilty pleasure of mine when i was younger. By the time HSM 3 came out, id grown out of it. Watched it anyways just to finish the movies off
This is literally what got me into theatre. I loved it, and when I spun out a year later that the school musical was High School Musical, I auditioned (which shocked my family because I was so shy). I made it, I performed, I loved it, and I've been performing ever since
"Well, I'm out, guys. If this is what's cool now I think I'm done. I no longer have any connection to this world. I'm gonna go home and kill myself. Goodbye friends."
I believe Ryan's character was written to be gay after the actor playing him proposed it. The writer and director were super into the idea but Disney put the kebosh on it because it wasn't "family friendly". There's an outtake in the third movie's DVD where Ryan just starts making out with the dude next to him at graduation. Never forget that Disney as a company is awful 8D
Seems they don't believe that now- Good Luck Charlie had a lesbian couple in one episode, and Andi Mack has one of it's main characters realizing he's gay and having a crush on the other male lead. At least the network's evolving.
That's not a sign of Disney being awful. That's them trying to be safe from controversy in 2006. Gigantic being cancelled is probably a sign of Disney being awful.
Liezl Bohnen well can you really blame them every time they tried to do something in support of the lgbt community like benefits going put to employs' same sex partners they get boycotted by even Americans until they repealed the decision
Second one had two of the most memorable musical numbers but the plot was beyond infuriating. Everyone was a dick but Troy and yet he's the one who apologizes in the end.
Kati Casey I think he meant the usual "movie" drama teacher, cuz I know that my school's drama teacher is a complete bitch who loves to play favorites with the same 2 or 3 students all the time.
Yeah I got to admit I was surprised how much I enjoyed this thing especialy in my mid 20's but it does have a lot of charm to it despite all the dull parts
I had the opposite effect. I never saw it that way after I discovered they were, in fact, siblings. The only thing that made uncomfortable about them then was how much she treats her brother like shit, or at least just as a tool.
I'm a junior in high school and I grew up with all three movies. Let me say, the nostalgia factor still lives on in most of my friends. In fact, a group of seniors and juniors had a viewing party for all three movies not too long ago. Trust me, this is still a phenomenon to this day. Also, speaking of "not taking it seriously", people will crucify you if you say you don't like it. Really I don't know why but hey lol
Ben Johnson You do know that this movie came out like 10 years ago before gay marriage was legalized right? Besides the Lefou thing still caused an outrage...
And you care because...? The topic never coming up is more realistic than a whole musical number about how "I don't want my sister's box because, as you can see, I love the cocks."
Xz3ta Every new generation looks like absolute crap. Don’t tell me there wasn’t something you loved when you were a lot younger that older folk thought was shit.
The soundtrack of High School Musical defined my middle school years. Even today, I still enjoy listening to the soundtrack, granted, it's one of my guilty pleasures.
I liked it when first came out, but I remember getting angry at it shortly after because of all the hype and over saturation in media, and i also blame this movie for "ruinning" the Disney Channel with its success, because after this, they stop to make and transmit good animated series, and started focusing only on things like this for a long time, but now that this phase has passed, I can admit that it's a charmingly cornnie movie, with a very catchy soundtrack. Im acctualy feel nostalgic when I see! I also feel bad because here in Brazil, this movie had (and still has) a reputation as a "girl movie" or "queer film", and many parents reprimanded their little boys for liking the film, including bullying and violence.
The main reason Sharpay and Ryan's relationship seems creepy is because they sang a duet that was clearly meant to be romantic. But uh, Ryan seems pretty gay, so that keeps it from being full-on creepy, I guess. I enjoyed this movie as a youngster and I still like most of the songs
To be honest, I've seen all three of the High School Musical Movies. Yeah they were corny and cliched, but I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the hell out of the songs. What can I say, they're my guilty pleasures, and it does help that I'm just a sucker for musicals :)
DragonReignx3 Out of curiosity, do you have a link to a news article about that or something? It wouldn't surprise me; one of the child actors from the Harry Potter series was busted for being involved in the 2011 England Riots. I'd just rather see some evidence is all.
I really appreciate how even if Doug doesn't like something, that's doesn't mean he damns it. He understands that just because he doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's bad, it means it's not his style, but could be someone elses. Thank you Doug for being awesome, and have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!
Like Doug said in his review of the third movie, this trilogy is the Grease of that time period. Not necessarily the best written, but well produced fun. I enjoy HSM and Grease for pretty much the songs, production, and the execution. They were all entertaining even if I have seen better movies that I enjoy more since then. Although, I do understand why not everyone is a fan.
Memories of primary school are coming back to me now. The last day of school before the summer break having the entire class chant "summer. Summer. Summer. Summer" seconds before the final bell. Sitting in the classroom on a rainy day with the music playing on the speakers. With me having autism I don't feel like I fit in very often, but the way my class shared our love of it was the first time I felt like I could actually fit in in school.
This was my favorite Disney Channel movie! I used to be obsessed with it in Junior High School and learned how to dance the rhythm and sings the songs. My favorite song in it is ‘Breaking free’.
This movie was in the rage with the girls back in my high school. The black kid with the sort-of afro sure was popular back then; I remember he was in an episode of Ned's Declassified
This brings back memories. Back in Middle School, kids were quoting and singing songs from this almost daily. I distinctly remember two friends of mine being huge fans of "Bop, Bop, Bop to the top"
This movie left a mark in my childhood; I grew up watching the HSM movies when I wasn't a teen yet and even Camp Rock in high school. It's supposed to be corny and I'm glad Doug could see it for what it is so he wasn't too harsh on it. I did like it a lot when it first came out since I wasn't too familiar with musicals and this one actually helped me get a bit into singing, in fact I learnt the choreography from the last scene of the movie. I remember it was such a huge thing for kids back then xD
"As much as we like to make fun of characters like this, like, 'oh being popular is so hard'." Too true, this is actually one character archetype I usually hate so much. The character who's got problems because they're "too popular" or because they're "too attractive" or whatever else. Not that I don't appreciate that people really can have problems like that, but fiction usually does a really horrible job of portraying those characters in a way that makes them sympathetic and tragic. It usually just comes across as really forced, and whiny, and you just think "oh grow a fucking backbone, you have life benefits other people would kill for, and you think it's a problem?". It's really all about how well the character is portrayed, and like, 99% of the time it's not portrayed well enough to make me actually care.
This was the DCOM of my preteen years and have so much nostalgia looking back at watching it for the first time. I was 10 when the first one came out and even to this day, I still remember the songs. My best friend also loved it too during the time as well.
My cousin was such an obsessive fan with high school musical! She drove me nuts with those songs, it’s basically the high school equivalent of Kids Bop. It’s too teenybopper, I hated the attention it got, everyone in our school talked about it.
I remember loving this when I was little. Got my mom to get the iTunes release and the soundtrack. Only a year or two later I grew out of it. If anything, it was fun while it lasted but now I don't want to bother with this movie.
I loved this movie when I was a kid. Hell, I still own this movie on DVD, even got the CDs for the first two films - before I borrowed them to someone and never saw them again. But still, for me, this movie is pure nostalgia fuel. Loved it as a kid, enjoy looking back on it as an adult.
Zac Efron and Ashley Tisdale are clearly the most talented in the cast, it was amazing watching their acting mature over the course of the films. It's a shame Efron and Vanessa Hudgens got all the attention.
How's, it may not have lead to instant success, but he was in at least 3 major films this year. One may have bombed and was meh overall, but the other 2 have good buzz.
My school is doing the stage version for our musical, and I’m so pumped. The stage version really is actually pretty good for anyone who wants to look into it. It adds songs into the slow moments, has way more choirus numbers (seriously, there’s like a solid 10 Chorus Numbers. There’s only 2 in the film) and it’s just overall fun
No lie, I swore up and down I was going to hate this movie when it was advertised. I just knew I hated musicals. But then I watched it...and liked it. I liked it too fucking much. I was maybe a freshman or sophomore in school when this came out. I learned most of the songs and probably would've attempted the dances were I not a fat, rhythmically challenged introvert. I enjoy a song or two from the second movie and I've never seen the third...but thus first one, I'll watch it no matter how cheesy it is. Consequently, I happen to enjoy a lot of musicals. My favorite? A Very Potter Musical. Oh yeah!
My old high school might be doing HSM for their spring musical this year. I am most definitely gonna check it out; The seniors have been working their asses off to make this possible
Look me and my friends loved these movies as they were coming out when we were like 5-7. And honestly it’s one of those trilogies that stick with the generation that it was made for. A few years above my grade level no one really cares that much about it anymore. And a few grades below us they never really got into it bc they were too young. But trust me when I say this. EVERYONE in my class knows every single song from every single movie. Once I started humming ‘the boys are back’ during an assembly and then my friends and I were singing it and then most of my class was because they had overheard the song and knew what it was. If you played ‘breaking free’ during a school dance. You bet your ass our class is screeching the lyrics while getting down like nobody’s business. It’s one of those things that brings the class together lmfao. It’s definitely given me some great memories and despite its flaws I’ll always hold it close to my heart.
For me this movie was a Love/Hate relationship growing up. I loved parts of it and hated other parts. It’s okay and enjoyable but nothing to go to crazy about. For me it’s just not my type of movie overall but I can see how it was for so many.
Riganthor you know it's funny because the only live action that I watched was Lizzie and it's so Raven, and that wasn't a master piece but I always thought it was way better than this, or Zoey, I don't know if you have this one but was called "Floricienta" (flowe Cinderella) that was horrible
I was 16 when it came out, and it triggered the fucking shit out of me. I hated it with such a passion for making high school seem like this super cheerful rose tinted thing, I hated how the main characters are these stereotypical spoiled jocks and popular girls with such small meaningless problems magnified into these big things... And of course the fact that this was around the time when Disney stopped 2D animated stuff, and felt like it was all replaced with stupid trendy crap like this. I delightfully pointed out all the plot holes and bad writing and whatnot, but obviously those were justifications, not the reason I hated this so much. Yeah, so obviously I was the exact wrong target audience for this, and I'm curious if I'd still hate it or just think of it as a mediocre thing. Same goes for "17 Again".
Szabu I really understand you, I never attended a Bigg school, my was less than 20 people per class and just one section of it, and even I knew that wasn't what highschool was about.
I have a bit of a soft spot for this cus I graduated high school in 2016, so I was around the age group this was made for when it came out, and that year our music program (which I was part of) actually centered the base of our end of the school year concert around it. It was partially serious (cus we took putting on good concerts very seriously) but mostly as a big, fun joke. And it was amazing. Sung a big old medley of the songs, did full dance numbers, even spread all the people who didn't want to be part of the more difficult dancing into/around the audience to make up for the people who had to sing while dancing and to give a more surround sound feel to the music. It was one hell of a fun time.
Ryan and Sharpay are the Team Rocket of the HSM trilogy. Campy ineffectual villains that are more fun to watch than the protagonists.
Best analogy I've seen yet
please. They WISH they were Team Rocket.
thirteenfury the only difference is that in Pokemon the main characters and villains are both fun to watch (in my opinion anyway) high school musical on the other hand the main characters are cringy and the villains are better to watch
thirteenfury It's also kind of like that for Phineas and Ferb.
I agree completely, with HSM, I was more into Ashley Tisdale not just because of Sharpay, but in Suite Life, she was so damn funny in all that stuff
Kids who were in 1st grade when this movie came out are now freshman in college. (I know this because I am one of them....)
Well thanks for the aging reminder.
Sincerely; folks who were fresh out of high school when this came out.
Fuck yeah man, so am I class of 2021 !!!!!
Was I really back in first grade then? Wow...
I was in first or second grade back then
fuck man, I rly gotta finish my degree.
People either love or hate this bad boy
Jordan W S I have no opinion
I was pretty indifferent to it. I felt like there wasn't enough plot and it was overly dramatic (that scene where she's singing and throws herself against the locker really made me laugh), and it was overall pretty boring. On the other hand, I enjoyed the dancing and the costume design. I know that last thing is kind of a weird thing to focus on, especially in a movie where everyone's just wearing civis, but... I like fashion, and I thought they had some really cute outfits.
Nostalgia Critic literally in this video stated a pretty balanced opinion.
I have no idea where I fall, honestly. I like it enough for nostalgia's case and from the bad movie lense. I loved it as a kid since I was their target audience. But now, I could care less and get bored when watching. It depends on my mood and how critical I want to be.
As of right now, I don't know how I feel about it. I enjoyed it enough the first few times I saw it but as I grew older I joined the bandwagon on hating it for the sake of hating it. Older again, I'm not really sure what to think of it. Though, I guess if anything, I'd lean more towards positive since I can at least remember bits and pieces of the songs.
The High School Musical films are huge guilty pleasures of mine.
Same
Same
I actually hated how much of a phenomenon this thing was when it came out and now it's just...eh. Then again, I was 12 and thought I was cool.
Honestly, these movies are...either you like them or you don’t. Personally, I’m in the middle.
TheCrimsonMayhem. Mines too
I dated a girl once where we thought we should broaden each other's experience in movies. I made a deal with her to watch the entire original Star Wars trilogy, and I would watch the High School Musical movies. So I did, and she never fulfilled her promise. So I, being a patient understanding boyfriend, made the same deal again. She was to watch the Star Wars trilogy, and I would watch the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants movies. I watched them, she didn't. Needless to say, I moved on, and am now married to a better match.
m jared Swenson Does she like Star Wars?
You skipped the important part of the story.
Go MGTOW
Lol did you at least enjoy any of that? Or at least get some action?
Sounds like a real give and take relationship. You give me what I want, and I'll take it from you.
Sounds like a crappy person to me. Even the most uninteresting movies can be enjoyable in the right environment and amount of alcohol
Look Musicals thrive on a certain level of cheesiness. It's just impossible to have characters break out into a random song and dance number in inappropriate situations without without it coming of as camp and ridiculous. So the cheesy elements never really bothered me. It did a bit as a kid but i've since grown out of that and learned to appreciate this film for what it is.
Fair enough. Although High School Musical is definitely not trying to go for the same dark tone as Sweeny Todd or Les Miserable. It's aiming for a more Grease or Hairspray tone. Even then theres still an element of oddity to people breaking out into song for practically no reason (especially in Les Miserable's case since that takes place during the French Revolution).
Doug was actually praising that aspect, though, wasn't he?
Hakajin Yeah and I agree with him.
See, this is a common misconception of musical theatre because the cheesy musicals constantly get pushed to the forefront. It is a medium of storytelling and there are many many musicals that don't fall into camp at all.
@Eaxl Except in great musicals like My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, The Sound of Music. Guys and Dolls, Singing in the Rain, Carousal, The King and I and even most recently La La Land plus various other great musical films throughout history there is context for why characters break into singing mid dialogue and it almost never comes off cheesy at all. All those films make it feel completely natural, believable and magical in those worlds and to the audience. For example at the beginning of My Fair Lady, Eliza Doolittle is reminiscing on the idea of opening a flower shop but cannot because she isn't a "Lady" as Professor Henry Higgins kept joyfully telling her. Once he leaves, she breaks into song imagining how lovely it would to become a "Lady" and have a much better life than the one she was having at that stage of the movie. That is completely natural because the song was set up in the context of the dialogue and the scene leading up to it. So @Fred Gwynn is absolutely spot on.
FINALLY!
ALL IN THIS TOGETHER PEOPLE!
Sharpay and Ryan are gold!
kevin willems stop lying to yourself
kevin willems the fact that you have to make up words against me means this conversation is over How High School Musical will always be the Catholic priest of Disney
I'm glad he added a comment about the weird, slightly incest-y subtext between Sharpay and Ryan (even weirder when one considers that Lucas Grabeel tried to play up Ryan as being gay).
CJCroen1393 again why this movie is so garbage and deserves to be burned in the hole farthest reaches of hell they're putting all this subliminal stuff in these Disney movies I had enough of it with the lion king and the Little Mermaid
alright..all together!
PEOPLE WHO LIKE THIS MOVIE SHOULD BE SUICIDAL
Okay so I'm not the only one who found Sharpay and Ryan's relationship to be kind of off.
Ryan was gay man
As a young'n I didn't find anything wrong... I do now.
I thought that they were dating as a child
+Lughaidh McLoughlin Me too.
When I found out they were siblings, I was so grossed out.
Yeah, I noticed that, too.
Yes, the video I waited for all month
Davos I'm waiting for his Descendents review. He's sure to hate it.
Same
Davos I've been waiting years for this review
ajmrowland do you hate descendent's?
This movie was a guilty pleasure of mine when i was younger. By the time HSM 3 came out, id grown out of it. Watched it anyways just to finish the movies off
This is literally what got me into theatre. I loved it, and when I spun out a year later that the school musical was High School Musical, I auditioned (which shocked my family because I was so shy). I made it, I performed, I loved it, and I've been performing ever since
That's amazing! Good for you dude.
which role did you play?
Lonkinella does it matter? It sucked
just another black man what do you mean by "matter"? I want to know
Lonkinella this movie is so brainwashing pandering it doesn't really matter what role you play it will always be awful
This used to be all the rage when I was younger. Never got what the hype was about when I got tad older.
Bible Illustrated I never got why it was all the rage even when I was a kid.
Jiggles the Clown yea
it's a novel idea
Bible Illustrated same here
Is he going to review these films that take place in a camp and have rocks in them?
Teen Beach Movie?
speedm222 camp rock???
speedm222 That wasn't clever in the slightest!
The first video included a montage of all the movies he's going to review. It included them.
Camp Rock review will be up Saturday, Camp Rock 2 next week.
Hey we got a good episode of South Park out of this movie
do what you wanna do xD
"Well, I'm out, guys. If this is what's cool now I think I'm done. I no longer have any connection to this world. I'm gonna go home and kill myself. Goodbye friends."
WHAT TEAM?!?
AussieDragoon wild cats
WILDCATS!
WILD CATS!
team 10. I'll leave now
Pyroctopus WILD CATS, KID! GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!!
I believe Ryan's character was written to be gay after the actor playing him proposed it. The writer and director were super into the idea but Disney put the kebosh on it because it wasn't "family friendly".
There's an outtake in the third movie's DVD where Ryan just starts making out with the dude next to him at graduation.
Never forget that Disney as a company is awful 8D
Seems they don't believe that now- Good Luck Charlie had a lesbian couple in one episode, and Andi Mack has one of it's main characters realizing he's gay and having a crush on the other male lead. At least the network's evolving.
That's not a sign of Disney being awful. That's them trying to be safe from controversy in 2006.
Gigantic being cancelled is probably a sign of Disney being awful.
And don't forget the gay police couple in Gravity Falls
Liezl Bohnen well can you really blame them every time they tried to do something in support of the lgbt community like benefits going put to employs' same sex partners they get boycotted by even Americans until they repealed the decision
Wolfstarzan that felt more like a mockery though to me I wouldn't mind it if they weren't amongst their first
I'm glad Doug didn't tear this one to shreds as I really enjoyed it as a kid.
I couldn't agree more.
One of my favorite things to come out of HSM was the Bad Lip Reading/Disney XD collaboration.
Shut Up, Sprinkles! I still have only seen that and not the actual movie. Given the review though, it doesn't sound as bad as I assumed it was.
If he thought the first was fine but dull and the third was good, I wonder what he'll think of the second film.
He'll probably say it was a shit-stain.
Chantal Carter I think so too. On another note, I've never liked that "What team? WILDCATS!" cheer. I've always found it annoying.
Second one had two of the most memorable musical numbers but the plot was beyond infuriating. Everyone was a dick but Troy and yet he's the one who apologizes in the end.
Oh man he's going to trash that movie so hard.
Worst of the three?! What?! I LOVE that movie! :(
This trilogy is a guilty pleasure, I still remember going to the third movie opening night with my friends.
Wait, so you're saying the average drama teacher isn't a bitch? Then what's wrong with my drama teacher?
Kati Casey I think he meant the usual "movie" drama teacher, cuz I know that my school's drama teacher is a complete bitch who loves to play favorites with the same 2 or 3 students all the time.
@Red Lantern Reviews, Did we have the same drama teacher?
Yeah I got to admit I was surprised how much I enjoyed this thing especialy in my mid 20's but it does have a lot of charm to it despite all the dull parts
I know, Sharpay and Ryan always made me uncomfortable,even when I was little
IKR? Sometimes I forgot that they were siblings!
I had the opposite effect. I never saw it that way after I discovered they were, in fact, siblings. The only thing that made uncomfortable about them then was how much she treats her brother like shit, or at least just as a tool.
I'm a junior in high school and I grew up with all three movies. Let me say, the nostalgia factor still lives on in most of my friends. In fact, a group of seniors and juniors had a viewing party for all three movies not too long ago. Trust me, this is still a phenomenon to this day.
Also, speaking of "not taking it seriously", people will crucify you if you say you don't like it. Really I don't know why but hey lol
Ryan was supposed to come out as gay but Disney didn’t allow it . Yes they are close but they are twins
Harrison Plott If Lefou from 2017's Beauty and the Beast could be gay. Why not Ryan?
Ben Johnson
You do know that this movie came out like 10 years ago before gay marriage was legalized right? Besides the Lefou thing still caused an outrage...
Dreams of Cookies it came out in 06, so isn’t that mid- 2000’s?
And you care because...? The topic never coming up is more realistic than a whole musical number about how "I don't want my sister's box because, as you can see, I love the cocks."
Jamie and Cersei Lannister are also twins
I grew up with the hogh school musical movies and now I am pursuing a musical theatre career. Be careful the movies you watch kids
I hope you meant that in a good sense 😂
This was my childhood, welcome back 2007
Childhood is coming back from the dead
Demonya I'm having PTSD
I'm glad that I was busy with Halo 3 and COD 4 at this time...
Xz3ta Every new generation looks like absolute crap. Don’t tell me there wasn’t something you loved when you were a lot younger that older folk thought was shit.
Same tho!
The soundtrack of High School Musical defined my middle school years. Even today, I still enjoy listening to the soundtrack, granted, it's one of my guilty pleasures.
I love Disneycember
I liked it when first came out, but I remember getting angry at it shortly after because of all the hype and over saturation in media, and i also blame this movie for "ruinning" the Disney Channel with its success, because after this, they stop to make and transmit good animated series, and started focusing only on things like this for a long time, but now that this phase has passed, I can admit that it's a charmingly cornnie movie, with a very catchy soundtrack. Im acctualy feel nostalgic when I see!
I also feel bad because here in Brazil, this movie had (and still has) a reputation as a "girl movie" or "queer film", and many parents reprimanded their little boys for liking the film, including bullying and violence.
Hey another Brazilian here ? Yes i remember this phase!
Odd, I remember the same situation in Spain, of all places. Some parents bullied their kids for liking this.
I'm sure your current president-elect was one of those parents.
Just love the fact that the franchise we all wanted doug to ripped into he actually thought it wasn't that terrible , something we all never expected.
The main reason Sharpay and Ryan's relationship seems creepy is because they sang a duet that was clearly meant to be romantic. But uh, Ryan seems pretty gay, so that keeps it from being full-on creepy, I guess. I enjoyed this movie as a youngster and I still like most of the songs
This might be my favorite review from this month for the unexpected layers and yet simplicity, well done.
To be honest, I've seen all three of the High School Musical Movies. Yeah they were corny and cliched, but I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the hell out of the songs. What can I say, they're my guilty pleasures, and it does help that I'm just a sucker for musicals :)
The skater kid is currently in jail. Guess he should have stuck to the status quo.
DragonReignx3 Out of curiosity, do you have a link to a news article about that or something? It wouldn't surprise me; one of the child actors from the Harry Potter series was busted for being involved in the 2011 England Riots. I'd just rather see some evidence is all.
I'll always love these movies, no matter what anyone says.
Me too.
They are shit and it's ok if you like and others like them. someone has to
Nah, "Groundhog Day" (1993) is much better film to check out... ;-)
I sat through this for my little sister and I thought I was the only one that got a weird sibling vibe ftom those two!
I really appreciate how even if Doug doesn't like something, that's doesn't mean he damns it. He understands that just because he doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's bad, it means it's not his style, but could be someone elses. Thank you Doug for being awesome, and have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!
As glad as I am to see him finally review this movie, it saddens me that Doug might not review Phantom of the Megaplex.
It's not "might not". He won't. It's not on the list.
The Movie Planet He still might do it as a popular demand in January
Like Doug said in his review of the third movie, this trilogy is the Grease of that time period. Not necessarily the best written, but well produced fun. I enjoy HSM and Grease for pretty much the songs, production, and the execution. They were all entertaining even if I have seen better movies that I enjoy more since then. Although, I do understand why not everyone is a fan.
Finally I get to see you see High School Musical
He skipped The Color of Friendship for this.
Welcome to the Metaverse Aww dammit
This had a way bigger impact than The Color of Friendship, which is fucked up but hey.
Hannah McBride
So I can't blame Doug for this.
Welcome to the Metaverse I was looking forward to that one
I feel like Doug is just reviewing my childhood
Anneliese Edelstein Yup. Same hyar.
Almost like he's some sort of critic of nostalgic things or something...
He's the *NOSTALGIA* Critic, it's his job to review things from people's childhoods.
Memories of primary school are coming back to me now. The last day of school before the summer break having the entire class chant "summer. Summer. Summer. Summer" seconds before the final bell.
Sitting in the classroom on a rainy day with the music playing on the speakers.
With me having autism I don't feel like I fit in very often, but the way my class shared our love of it was the first time I felt like I could actually fit in in school.
This is it , the big one, the one they say started the Disney channel original movie revolution !!!
This was my favorite Disney Channel movie!
I used to be obsessed with it in Junior High School and learned how to dance the rhythm and sings the songs. My favorite song in it is ‘Breaking free’.
This movie was in the rage with the girls back in my high school. The black kid with the sort-of afro sure was popular back then; I remember he was in an episode of Ned's Declassified
Disney had him in a bunch of other shows too (I know he was in the early Hannah Montana episodes).
This brings back memories. Back in Middle School, kids were quoting and singing songs from this almost daily. I distinctly remember two friends of mine being huge fans of "Bop, Bop, Bop to the top"
I grew up during the era this was famous and absolutely hated it.
AshleyAdam16 I like you already
just another black man I like you already too .
AshleyAdam16 I think we are the only sane people
I normally agree with Doug alot. Like 97% of the time. Our opinions only differ when it comes to Anastasia,Pokemon,Matrix and musicals.
AshleyAdam16 Congratulations, we are friends now.
I love how he describes sharpay and ryan
YOU COULD NOT PICK A PONY THAT IS BETTER THAN DARYL THE PONY OF LOVE!
Wait till he gets to HSM2. Three words: Bet On It.
I Don't Dance: a song about how the best dancer in the cast doesn't dance, which he sings while performing an elaborate dance number.
Hey Doug since you did this and the third one will you do the second one?
Ismael Ciulla he'll do the second one but not the third since it's not a DCOM
Considering he did all the Zenon "Zequels" I can't imagine he'd skip the rest of these.
It's the most-watched TV movie of all time, why the hell would he skip it?
CrazyNaut the third one got a theatrical release so he won't review it.
He already did the third movie.
This movie left a mark in my childhood; I grew up watching the HSM movies when I wasn't a teen yet and even Camp Rock in high school. It's supposed to be corny and I'm glad Doug could see it for what it is so he wasn't too harsh on it. I did like it a lot when it first came out since I wasn't too familiar with musicals and this one actually helped me get a bit into singing, in fact I learnt the choreography from the last scene of the movie. I remember it was such a huge thing for kids back then xD
"As much as we like to make fun of characters like this, like, 'oh being popular is so hard'." Too true, this is actually one character archetype I usually hate so much. The character who's got problems because they're "too popular" or because they're "too attractive" or whatever else. Not that I don't appreciate that people really can have problems like that, but fiction usually does a really horrible job of portraying those characters in a way that makes them sympathetic and tragic. It usually just comes across as really forced, and whiny, and you just think "oh grow a fucking backbone, you have life benefits other people would kill for, and you think it's a problem?". It's really all about how well the character is portrayed, and like, 99% of the time it's not portrayed well enough to make me actually care.
High school musical is my child. Love it still
Descendants is kind of like the High School Musical of the 2010s.
BUT, is it actually better than HSM?
I never saw HSM but Descendants is AWFUL!
This was the DCOM of my preteen years and have so much nostalgia looking back at watching it for the first time. I was 10 when the first one came out and even to this day, I still remember the songs. My best friend also loved it too during the time as well.
My cousin was such an obsessive fan with high school musical! She drove me nuts with those songs, it’s basically the high school equivalent of Kids Bop. It’s too teenybopper, I hated the attention it got, everyone in our school talked about it.
I loved these movies growing up, and Critic pretty much summed up my thoughts about the series.
I swear this crap inspired Glee.
And glee inspired the series XD
January 2006. I was 9 years old when this came out. Oh the feels, the crushes, the dance numbers.
I remember loving this when I was little. Got my mom to get the iTunes release and the soundtrack. Only a year or two later I grew out of it. If anything, it was fun while it lasted but now I don't want to bother with this movie.
I loved this movie when I was a kid. Hell, I still own this movie on DVD, even got the CDs for the first two films - before I borrowed them to someone and never saw them again. But still, for me, this movie is pure nostalgia fuel. Loved it as a kid, enjoy looking back on it as an adult.
This movie crippled Zac Efron’s acting career before it even really began
I disagree. If anything, Efron is pretty much the only cast member that's been able to maintain any kind of career past 2010.
Zac Efron and Ashley Tisdale are clearly the most talented in the cast, it was amazing watching their acting mature over the course of the films. It's a shame Efron and Vanessa Hudgens got all the attention.
How's, it may not have lead to instant success, but he was in at least 3 major films this year. One may have bombed and was meh overall, but the other 2 have good buzz.
AussieDragoon I know The Greatest Showman has good buzz, but what is the other one?
ajmrowland The Disaster Artist, it's a minor role, but he is in it.
My school is doing the stage version for our musical, and I’m so pumped. The stage version really is actually pretty good for anyone who wants to look into it. It adds songs into the slow moments, has way more choirus numbers (seriously, there’s like a solid 10 Chorus Numbers. There’s only 2 in the film) and it’s just overall fun
Only a little dull? It was really dull. My high school essay dull.
Every song is still stuck in my head
No lie, I swore up and down I was going to hate this movie when it was advertised. I just knew I hated musicals. But then I watched it...and liked it. I liked it too fucking much. I was maybe a freshman or sophomore in school when this came out. I learned most of the songs and probably would've attempted the dances were I not a fat, rhythmically challenged introvert. I enjoy a song or two from the second movie and I've never seen the third...but thus first one, I'll watch it no matter how cheesy it is.
Consequently, I happen to enjoy a lot of musicals. My favorite? A Very Potter Musical. Oh yeah!
I hope you do the sequel to this! I love these movies and grew up with them, I loved them and still do to this day
THE SKATER DUDE PLAYS THE CELLO DAMMIT!
My old high school might be doing HSM for their spring musical this year. I am most definitely gonna check it out; The seniors have been working their asses off to make this possible
Damn this mocie is SO SAPPY
I honestly loved all three of these movies. it's beautiful.
My sisters still Love High School Musical.
Nah, "Groundhog Day" (1993) is much better film to check out... ;-)
Mine too
Look me and my friends loved these movies as they were coming out when we were like 5-7. And honestly it’s one of those trilogies that stick with the generation that it was made for. A few years above my grade level no one really cares that much about it anymore. And a few grades below us they never really got into it bc they were too young. But trust me when I say this. EVERYONE in my class knows every single song from every single movie. Once I started humming ‘the boys are back’ during an assembly and then my friends and I were singing it and then most of my class was because they had overheard the song and knew what it was. If you played ‘breaking free’ during a school dance. You bet your ass our class is screeching the lyrics while getting down like nobody’s business. It’s one of those things that brings the class together lmfao. It’s definitely given me some great memories and despite its flaws I’ll always hold it close to my heart.
1:23 she looks a lot like the late robin Williams
Munjee Syedd who?;?
The teacher.
OMG you are right, there is a great resemblense to Mrs Doubtfire!
And now the review everyone's been waiting for since High School Musical 3!
I was around the target demographic when it came out, but did I watch it? Hell no
Kowz of Rule same
I think I was the only one that didn't watch it in my school
Preach it!
omg. it happened. Doug finally reviews my teenage guilty pleasure. *grabs popcorn*
For me this movie was a Love/Hate relationship growing up. I loved parts of it and hated other parts. It’s okay and enjoyable but nothing to go to crazy about. For me it’s just not my type of movie overall but I can see how it was for so many.
Thank you, Nostalgia Critic! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Especially the "maybe have a thing for your siblings" part. I love you forever.
I hated this movie as a teen
I hated as a 12 year-old
Riganthor you know it's funny because the only live action that I watched was Lizzie and it's so Raven, and that wasn't a master piece but I always thought it was way better than this, or Zoey, I don't know if you have this one but was called "Floricienta" (flowe Cinderella) that was horrible
I was 16 when it came out, and it triggered the fucking shit out of me. I hated it with such a passion for making high school seem like this super cheerful rose tinted thing, I hated how the main characters are these stereotypical spoiled jocks and popular girls with such small meaningless problems magnified into these big things... And of course the fact that this was around the time when Disney stopped 2D animated stuff, and felt like it was all replaced with stupid trendy crap like this. I delightfully pointed out all the plot holes and bad writing and whatnot, but obviously those were justifications, not the reason I hated this so much. Yeah, so obviously I was the exact wrong target audience for this, and I'm curious if I'd still hate it or just think of it as a mediocre thing. Same goes for "17 Again".
Don't blame you. It's one of the worst movies ever made.
Szabu I really understand you, I never attended a Bigg school, my was less than 20 people per class and just one section of it, and even I knew that wasn't what highschool was about.
I was 8 when this film came out and fell in love with it. I look back on this series so damn fondly
OK, so Doug just completely skipped over Halloweentown High and Kim Possible: So the Drama then?
Finally one I really remember. DCOM-cember is suddenly much more interesting for me personally.
Just watch the South Park episode that mocks it. It's much better.
South Park got depressing season 12.
Elementary School Musical.
Indeed
Giovanni Orellana I don't watch that crappity crappy crap "show".
Andrew Phillips Even as a fan of HSM, I found that episode very funny 😄
I did this musical in MY high school. I was just the principal (the guy on the basketball team's side) but I still loved this film growing up. :)
Next up High school Musical 2
Nope. Next up is Cheetah Girls 2, then Halloweentown 4, THEN HSM 2
The Movie Planet oh goody I can't wait for Doug to writhe in agony in Cheetah Girls 2 LOL JK
Awe, I loved these movies! Glad you covered the first one!
So, that's 3 for 3 with Kenny Ortega Disney projects Doug's not a fan of (Newsies, Hocus Pocus, HSM). Only one more remains...
Actually make that 3 for 4. He sorta liked the 3rd HSM film. Kenny Ortega also directed that one.
He also did The Cheetah Girls.
The last 2 not the first one. The first one was not directed by him.
I have a bit of a soft spot for this cus I graduated high school in 2016, so I was around the age group this was made for when it came out, and that year our music program (which I was part of) actually centered the base of our end of the school year concert around it. It was partially serious (cus we took putting on good concerts very seriously) but mostly as a big, fun joke. And it was amazing. Sung a big old medley of the songs, did full dance numbers, even spread all the people who didn't want to be part of the more difficult dancing into/around the audience to make up for the people who had to sing while dancing and to give a more surround sound feel to the music. It was one hell of a fun time.
I recommend reviewing Lemonade Mouth. It's a very good DCOM along the same HSM vibes
These movies are a huge guilty pleasure for me.
Oh boy, the big one
ONE OF MY FAV FILM FRANCHISES OF ALL TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHY I LOVE THIS BUT DAMN, I LOVE IT!
The interactions with Ryan and pink Sharpie kinda icked me out.
Yeah. They are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too clingy to be brother and sister.
Twincest is the bestest according to Disney apparently.
I'm kidding but still.
Incest yay!
This movie defined my pre-teen years. It's still one of my favorites!
This is kind of where goes on this live action family sitcom train for a decade begins. Why Disney Channel gets so much hate.
YASSSS I HAVE WAITED MY ENTIRE LIFE FOR THIS MOMENT OH THANK YOU DOUG I NEEDED THIS TODAY