Just wanna point out something: When I was in theater, we also did a production of High School Musical. Literally one of the first things that my drama teacher said was that you could be the best singer in the world, but if you were timid and meek, you WOULD NOT get the lead role. Confidence had first priority. So the fact that Gabriella got the lead role for the play when she got stage fright at the audition is absolutely BONKERS to me.
same Gabriella getting the lead role makes no sense! If you're trying out for a lead role you need to be confident in front of an audience if you have stage fright you should be in the back round or on the stage crew
Funny thing here is that Zac Efron said in an interview that he HATED Troy as a character and would punch him immediately in the face if given the chance.
Straight up, in theater if you're not fully committed, you can forget about even getting a part. Troy missing the 1st act thinking he can show up for the 2nd? He's not getting on stage at all.
Weirdly not for my school. Theater is really popular in my school with guys and girls. A lot of the performers do track and field, tennis, and softball along with it. Last year I helped with the lights since I’ve been helping the theater all the time with making props anyhow. The director even said the first full cast rehearsal was our dress rehearsal in front of the entire school system. The all day practice following it was the first time he had practice with everyone. Everything went off without a hitch. On Saturday morning before the show there was a track and field meet and everyone still made it on time without an issue
lissamaven Sharpay and Ryan can’t get the leads 24/7 because they are the only names on the sign up sheet for auditions for the leads because no one else signed up because Sharpays name takes up almost the entire sign up sheet. Darbus was probably tired of seeing Ryan and Sharpays Names as the only names for the leads for every single musical 24/7. Also Troy would have shown up for the first act if Gabriella hadn’t been at Sanford which was like 4 hours or more away. He was at Sanford in movie 3. He is fully committed to theatre in a way other wise he wouldn’t have showed up period. he just also likes basketball at the same time. Sharpay and Ryan are good at other things as well that aren’t theatre related. Like Ryan and Sharpay don’t balance their time doing other stuff when they aren’t doing theatre and singing. Also I think the idea for theatre mainly is you just have to show up period mainly at some point. Other wise they wouldn’t have understudies for good reasons.Troy despite missing the first act still showed up for the second one. Plus if Gabriella hadn’t been at Sanford they would have Been there for the whole entire act. The only reason they missed the first act was because Gabriella was all the way at Sanford and Troy had to go and get her then drive all the way back. Gabriella was the other main Lead for the movie 3 musical he couldn’t have done the musical without her other wise he’d be stuck singing with Sharpay and he doesn’t like singing with Sharpay as much as he does Gabriella as shown in movie 2. Troy in movie 3 kind of had no choice but to show up for the second act since he was like 4 hours or more away. Theatre also has to be more understanding for those who have other stuff going on espeically if someone is like 4 hours or more away. If they are understanding when someone gets sick,or has family issues...then someone playing a sport or being hours away is no different than someone who is sick or has a family emergency pop up. Especially if the theatre is understanding for people like with Sharpay then Troy is no different. Sharpays only Been in like 17 school productions her entire education like there weren’t times she and Ryan missed productions because something else happened.
Metal/rock/alternative music person :I think that’s because most schools are a lot more understanding if something comes up at the last minute there are understudies for a reason. Like if someone has a sports game or something else come up it’s no different than someone being sick or out of town. Sometimes last minute stuff pops up when you least expect it.
@@Megz1794 Theatre teachers choose who is best for the part and Darbus knows that Sharpay and Ryan are talented and hard-working performers. Just being able to sing is not the only thing that's considered and she knows absolutely nothing about Troy and Gabriella except that they were late (strike 1), Gabriella had stage-fright indicating that she wasn't used to being onstage (strike 2) and that they're dedicated to other clubs (not necessarily a strike but definitely puts them a tier below the actually dedicated drama kids who've spent years working at their craft). There's a reason new theatre kids are given supporting roles first. Troy had already made a commitment to being in the play, and you can't miss the first act of a play only to show up for the second. Never mind the fact that it confuses the audience, it shows a clear lack of care and respect. If you can't do a job well, then let the people who actually can get on stage and give the audience what they want. It's not a crime to have different hobbies, but it is bad to not know how to balance those hobbies. You can't say "well if he didn't care he wouldn't have shown up" because that's not how it works. If someone was late to a job interview, a recital, etc that'd be a strike against them. The world doesn't bend over to fix your mistakes. (except they're the protagonists so it does). Theatre, like everything else, requires commitment. Maybe your experiences are different, but most theatre shows require everyone to commit to the show. If you don't turn up, you aren't getting on stage. Even if you have a good reason, you still missed half the show, so no. If the show runs for more than one night you might get to perform later, but otherwise you're not getting on that stage. That's what understudies are for. And speaking of good reasons, BEING SICK OR HAVING FAMILY ISSUES IS NOT THE SAME AS "oh i have a sport's game silly me haha". The former are completely out of your control. Unless you went skinny dipping in winter, coming down with a cold on the night of a performance isn't something you deliberately caused. Having a prior engagement is not a good reason, if anything it just shows bad planning on your part. Finally, you can't use "well he doesn't like singing with Sharpay" as a defense. You think every co-performer likes the other? It's called acting and most directors will tell you to suck it up and get on with the show. Songs are usually 4 minutes long and shows max at 3 hours. Unless Troy had an actual good reason to dislike Sharpay (and by good reason I mean racism, violence, breaking institutional rules etc and not just "she's not Gabriella") then this is just petty. Hell, why was Gabriella allowed to audition if she was gonna be 4 hours away the night of the show?? Why didn't she make plans to be there like staying over at a friend's place or driving there by herself earlier in the day? In conclusion, I get the feeling you're just trying to exonerate Troy and Gabriella, and while you're free to like them as characters, you really can't justify everything they do. Besides, you don't have to, the movie logic already bends over backwards to fix their mistakes.
I love Sharpay but sometimes she tries a little too hard especially when she changes the songs Kelsi writes Troy is a nice guy although sometimes it’s hard to show It
@@Rfllllllll There’s two sides to that. She tells Kelsey to “write it in her key.” Different singers have different styles. Sharpay probably understands what styles suit her vocals. I did choir and stopped after a year because my voice sounded rigid and less smooth with the straight laced music choices. Give me show tunes, alternative, pop etc my vocals are solid- im a 2nd alto. Vice versa a classmate of mine sounded good in choir but if she sang a modern song she’d hit the notes (had a wide range) but it’d sound soulless and stiff. If you “compared us, she would skillfully be better. But it depends on who’s listening and what is required. In warm ups we sang a lot of pop music and when people heard me they were like 😱 you sound so good. I wouldn’t say Im an amazing singer. Did it hurt Kelsey that her songs weren’t portrayed how she wanted? Im sure. But the kid didn’t stick up for herself either. Like she wrote the whole show. Im sure she had some input on creative direction. My high school did student led productions.
I also hate the fact that Ryan and Sharpay are so experienced and they probably worked their behinds off 24/7 to get the parts, only to lose to two beginners who literally have no reason to be the leads of the play
True, in my school's theater club, newcomers would often be extras, dancers/ensemble, and would be super lucky to have a part on the main cast in general. The movie is super unrealistic.
@@austinpelissier2131 wait.. you mean musicals dont spontaneously occur in the hallways of high school?!?!?! I totally thought this is EXACTLY what happens in high school. I'm shocked that this MOVIE made by DISNEY channel, would be less than realistic..
umm, to be a serious consideration in ANY school sport or activity, your grades have to be at LEAST satisfactory. He probably is naturally talented as a whiz kid but prefers physical activity over brain clubs. There's nerds in EVERY division.
The Uber Successful in hsm3, Troy said he would probably have to sit finals multiple times over....implying that he knew that he was a mediocre student at best. And anyway, “satisfactory grades” aren’t good enough to be class valedictorian.
This theory was so satisfying. So may people assume just because a girl is rich, popular and wears makeup, she has to be the biggest jerk in the world. And just because the main protagonist gets the boy, saves a cat and is "naturally pretty", she has to be a saint. Thank you for proving that things aren't that black and white.
THL Productions they don’t mean black and white as in race. They mean like good and evil. Nothing is one thing or another. It’s mixed and what might seem like a bad thing is actually good and vise versa
There is no way two extremely experienced and talented actors who clearly have a standing relationship with the director, would get passed up for two COMPLETE noobs, one of whom has extreme stage fright
Exactly! I mean Troy ig makes sense why he would be casted but why Gabriella? I mean 1. She's new to the school in the first movie and 2. Doesn't have any theater experience whatsoever! 3. Has stage fright I mean usually you won't get a lead role until after you do a couple of shows, and you DEFINITELY won't get it on the first show you do ever
@@SieMiezekatze Your confusing Troy the character with Zack Effron the actor. Troy, the character has Zack Effron's body and Drew Seeley's voice when singing in the same way that Darth Vader has James Earl Jones's voice, and David Prowse's body at the time. By your logic, Vader really sounds like an Englishman.
But those two experience and talented actors couldn't even perform a simple love ballad and had to switch it to an upbeat show-stopper, as opposed to the complete noobs, who could actually sing the song as it was written.
In theatre, if you're not on time, not committed, and not serious overall about the production, you can forget about getting a supporting role, let alone the main role. As a theatre kid, Troy infuriates me.
Exactly. I was in Les Miserables a few years ago and played the main character Jean Valjean. The theater teacher had to make sure I was COMMITTED to doing the role. I had at least six to eight hours per day working on this musical. I also had private singing lessons, extra blocking, character development and exercises and a huge schedule. I also had to memorize a lot of lines (obviously) , be on time for call time, and try on costumes as the opening night drew nearer. Troy and Gabriella are not and will never be good theater students
@@universalpower419 No one said anything about talent. They just said you have to actually *care* about the show you're performing, which is true. Don't be a Troy.
Sharpay was the confident fashionista and drama club outcast that everyone at the school pretended to dislike but secretly admired and envied… she was always sweet at heart and never a true mean girl.
Regina is just a stupid untitiled manipulative brat compared to Sharpay! Oh! And even if the actress is an adult, lets not forget that the character is propabably like 15!! That's sooo worse!!! Yikes!!
And just because someone is protagonist doesn’t make them the hero, a protagonist is the main character and the story usually centers around them. Most might see Sharpay as the Antagonist, a character who is against the main character and not necessarily evil. But Sharpay isn’t really an Antagonist, she try’s to HELP the main character
The antagonist isn't against the main character, they just cause conflict. For instance, let's say the protagonist and his/her friend were both trying out for a musical. Would the friend be considered a villain because he/she is wanting the same role as the protagonist? No, but they do cause conflict. A villain is actively working to defeat the hero, but an antagonist just causes conflict in the story. Just because Sharpay is going for the same role in the musical doesn't mean she's the villain.
nevaeh By doing nice things for him in hopes to at least get a “lead role” of singing with him? Once? She possibly wanted more but settled with this very simple thing! Mean while troy made her do things for him as if she’d get that prize than in the end totally flops on the promise. Making someone do something because they think they’ll get something in return (while not holding your end of the deal) is manipulative and selfish. Very bad.
Sharpay isn’t perfect, she’s a little bit of a diva but she has redeeming quality’s, she has character flaws but compared to literally every other character she probably has the best morals.
The best morals? Sis literally attempted to break up Troy and Gabriella. She desperately threw herself at Troy knowing he had a girlfriend. And she was mean and selfish towards Ryan and others
@@rorrim0 Um no. Sounds like a sociopath. I don't know what kind of teenage girls you hang out with but I wouldn't want to meet them. And as a teenage girl, I've never acted like that and will never
Troy is probably the most short sighted person and naive character I’ve ever seen. In addition, the “good guys” are toxic af, Sharpay is actually a good person with something called honor yes I said it Sharpay is the most honorable and morally sound person in the series.
@@WhoCares-yt4ot he sacrificed a potential full ride scholarship because he wants to hang out with his friends. he could have easily still had the scholarship if he had just chosen to not be like "you're all beneath me now that I have a scholarship", he could have had his friends and a future set up for him.
Poor Sharpay was villainized when she was just devoted to the arts and still did nice things for Troy and Gabriella. She was only shocked that Troy and Gabriella got the leads when they were late to auditions (Twice!) and have no experience in the arts and put no effort into their performances. Sharpay was betrayed by her own brother too, but she still kept strong and decided to help her high school’s theatre program. Troy and Gabriella got whatever they wanted even when they said and did bad things because they’re the main characters. Sharpay deserves justice.
Forgetting that Troy bullied the freshman in the third movie! He took his clothes and exposed him to the theater. Also, Troy was the reason the guy decided to sing with sharpay , ruining the show. Cause he believed sharpay liked him cause Troy said. Then Sharpay might have lost the scholarship to julliard cause her show was ruined. Troy May not have been the villain but was a really mean person to the only person who looked up to him.
@@baguette_tt9601 I feel like this is a joke but I can’t entirely tell so If it’s a joke lmao If it’s not Why was I sent to court all I did was stabbed that dudes dog it was just a prank bro
Tbh Sharpay's movie really let us see how hardworking she really is and changes how you see her in the high school musical films when you rewatch. Also now I kinda wish Troy ended up not being able to go to any college and having no friends
@dristawxstaken Sharpay never let Troy and Gabriella have a turn to sing Kelsi had to do what Sharpay said she threatened Kelsi to rewrite you are the music in me really I mean come on sure she is talented but why not let somebody else have a turn
omg I always thought that the scene where their "friends" gets Troy to admit he doesn't like Gabriela was pretty messed up. When your friends have someone they like you support them until you have a reason not to, not con your friend into saying the complete opposite of what their feeling.
They said that in a scene. I think it was Chad that said that if music is something that Troy likes, they should be boosting him up not tearing him down.
I like how he chooses Gabriela over acting on stage with Sharpay, which is basically his college, income, etc on the line, but he'd leave her like that in an instant over what his friends said. It makes no sense.
If Troy was just a bit nicer to his friends and girlfriend when Sharpay offered him all that money and the scholarship, he totally could've had his future set. But he was a jerk and bailed on all of them, and he let his ego get in the way. Yet, everyone still blamed Sharpay.
I don't think you can blame a kid for getting way in over his head for getting nice things. honestly, his friends should have tried to be understanding instead of the shit friends they were in part 1 and 2
💯 Agree. I don't understand why he couldn't have just been kind but firm with Sharpay (about his lack of feelings for her), have some fun singing a song with her, graciously accept her help in setting things up for college, whilst balancing his newly invested time with Sharpay with his friends. All it would have taken was some honest communication with both parties (Sharpay and his friends/Gabriella) and he would've been set.
Y'know Troy, if theater is really something you want to pursue, you're gonna have to start being comfortable performing alongside people who aren't your girlfriend :/
Tbh the person who annoyed me the most was Taylor. She knew Gabriella for all of two months and still tried to force her hand to choose the decathlon with the webcam stunt. And in HSM 2 she kept blowing up the narrative that Troy was taking more interest in Sharpay when in reality Troy was super uncomfortable with every interaction with her but was trying to do what he could to be able to afford college.
Taylor also had a bit of internalized misogyny where she told Gabriella about how all cheerleaders are vapid & boy crazy, and how the Decathlon women's academic ambitions made them better
Honestly I think the real villian in High School Musical was Troy's father and Mrs. Darbus, they together put a lot of pressure on the students and really if it wasn't for them, they wouldn't be as divided as they were. Sharpey didn't even like Troy in the first movie, so it was totally confusing when she was interested in him in the second.
Dude, this ain't a theory, you're basically proving it RIGHT. Not a theory, but a true statement. It has great evidence and rebuttals, and there is explanation as well. I think that you're right. Edit: Prob most likes I’ve gotten.
That's not what a theory is A hypothesis is essentually an educated guess. A theory is a statement you say with evidence, and a theorum is something that's 100 percent true. Like it's a theory that fat people have a lower life expectancy but you can never 100 percent say that all fat people will have a lower life expectancy because it isn't true and you can't prove it to be true either way. So most things that aren't mathematical are theories, even when they have strong evidence, like the theory of Gravity and the theory of evolution
Another problem I had with Troy and is that he could barely act. Whenever he was singing with Gabriella he could convey the emotion of love but when he was singing with sharpay he looked like an idiot. Sharpay was able to pretend she was in love with her brother.
I've always said this. I always hated Troy and Gabriela so much because they always reminded me of the popular kids who never talked to me but still called me a brat or a bitch for never talking to them. Funny thing is they never tried to talk to me either and if they had they'd have realize I could not talk. Literally could not.
I always liked Sharpay the most back when I first watched these movies. Now that I'm older and can really comprehend all the things you've pointed out, I'm glad that even as a kid I could pick up on these things. I found myself gravitating towards her more and more as each movie released, and thinking that I'd much rather hang out with someone like her than any of the others. She always seemed like a genuinely nice person that was just misunderstood. But hey, that's just a theory... a comment theory
I don't think a genuinely nice person would homewreck on someone's relationship, bully people, treat her brother like trash, and manipulate others for selfish reasons
High school musical feels like its made at the expense of theater kids, not for them. Kind of like The big bang theory being about smart people for dumb people.
Especially when you consider how it gets pretty much every detail about musical theater and performing completely wrong. Even really obvious pedestrian stuff, like the fact that any given performer in a musical needs to not just be able to sing, but also dance and act. -The series acts as if the only roles worth getting or even talking about in a musical is the lead (or the lead's understudy). -It acts as if being in a musical isn't just as huge a commitment as sports or the science club. I mean sure, they made it to the callback. But now that they have the parts, what about rehearsals? Are we supposed to believe that they'll never have a scheduling conflict ever again? Or just become exhausted from dedicating themselves to _two extracurricular activities at once?_ -It acts as if a musical collaboratively written by a senior year class -- most of whom are not in the drama club-- about _themselves_ would be anything other than a pipe dream disaster??? (Because yeah, that's what the musical in HSM3 is.) _-It acts as if JULLIARD would want TROY BOLTON as a student and that he would be at all tempted to go there._
@@jotarokujo8423 Because your dumb if you really think this is how 'smart' people operate, also the extreme sexism in the show is crazy I used to think sheldon was cute until I actually listened to some of the stuff he says.. yeah he's just an incel
Now that I see this Troy and Gabriella are the real brats Sharpay is the only decent person in the ENTIRE franchise Sharpay is hardworking and nice and just because she is rich doesn't mean she is rude Her parents worked hard foe their money
True the first movie all she did say all get you a role and help you lut secomd movie helps troy woth college like his dad is a basketball coach like he cant afford college all on his own third movie literly does nothing to anyone but dreams of being on brodway
I've also noticed that it makes a "Blondes vs Brunettes" fight which is really not something that sits well with me. Oh, sweet, smart brunettes are better than hardworking, pink-loving blondes who are usually cast as the villain. Can we all just...not slap on stereotypes.
I swear to god I had to change schools because I was bullied for being a pink loving blonde and everyone called me Barbie and stuff. Now I've embraced my Barbie identity every time that I'm walking into the faculty of international economics I'm studying in Europe. People just assume you can't be feminine, confident and smart at the same time. Watch and learn.
Ooh look at me I'm a dumb, rich blonde who loves pink and if you hurt my feelings I'm telling daddy. Why do so many movies do this? It makes me sick. *Sigh*
@@Daiglaki it's originally French borrowed by English. In French the masculine spelling is Brunet and is taken from Brun which literally means brown But it typically means girl with brown hair.
As an 11 year old die hard theater kid I also loved Sharpay, because she inspired me to be more open about what I want to do with my life. Sharpay and her brother worked so hard. Troy and Gabriella slacked off, took what they had for granted and didn’t deserve any of their roles.
I understand why Sharpay was mad when Troy wouldn’t sing with her, I mean she put so much effort in to getting college scouts to get in and Troy wouldn’t even sing ONE song with her. He could have gotten a scholarship and decides that friends were more important
Wooli e I swear her and Troy are the ones that basically get everything, it’s all handed to them without them doing anything to EARN IT!!!! Which Ryan and Sharpay did, they were honestly the most hardworking characters in HSM to me, yet in the end they didn’t get the Spotlight it’s handed to two people who didn’t even take it seriously. Literally this kind of gives the message that you shouldn’t work hard for the things you want, you’ll get it by being lazy (Troy) inexperienced (Troy & Gabriella)
At least Gabriella IS smart so getting into Stanford wasn't out of reach. She also did choir before HSM1 so she had some singing experience. Everything else just sort of fell in her lap.
Sharpay: Helps Gabriella with vocals, helps Troy get to the college of his dreams, gives her brother the award (even though he backstabbed her), even though she didn't get chosen for Juilliard (which makes no sense because she is super talented), she still decides to help out with her school's theater program, listens to her parents, helps out the lead actress, and helps out a little boy, and is a SUPER hard worker. Troy: Gets everything he wants, BUT STILL CAN'T EVEN SING ONE SIMPLE SONG! woooooooooooowwwww
The more I watch HSM I think “Why are they auditioning to different songs?” It would make more sense that they would be doing the same song so Ms. Darbus could more easily determine who sings it better. That being said I would love to have seen Ashley and Lucas do Breaking Free or Vanessa and Zac (or more likely Drew Seeley) doing Bop to the Top.
Or they should have three songs, one for low singers, one for middle singers, and one for high singers. Or the one song should just have 3 parts which is the most realistic part.
Troy: "I care more about what my friends think of me!" Also Troy: *Completely ditches all of his friends to play basketball with the professionals* Am I seriously the only one who noticed this?
That was the point of the second movie though. It was about Troy failing his friends but at the end realizing he was wrong. His friends made him realize that he was becoming too self-absorbed. He recognized it and changed. So, in a way, he was redeemed from that.
Wait... Did Troy just say he only cares what people think about him? Yet another reason why to dislike him! Yeah, Sharpey may be portrayed as mean, but she didn't take her wealth for granted. I guess I just want to emphasise the point that she tried to work on her own regardless of her wealth...
Garbriella is the only one of the so called “good guys” who isn’t spoiled or rude or mean. She hasn’t done really anything wrong. She actually try’s to be nice. Everyone else is jerks though
Sharpay and Ryan were working in theatre for YEARS and when two newcomers rock up and get the parts they should have gotten through logic of theatre and basic unspoken laws of the world, they had every SINGLE right to make sure those two were 110% dedicated to their roles, and they just weren't. Sharpay wanted to help the newcomers and got given crap for trying to defend herself or even try to get her role back. She is a theatre kid, she knows how it runs and the dedication needed and she wanted to prove they weren't, because who wouldn't? If you know someone has 3 jobs and is going for a fourth, and that position just so happens to be the one you've been gunning for, then this lil brat rocks up, gets the job, then still can't find time to do the job YOU worked so hard for, you'd be furious EDIT: WHY IS THIS THE MOST LIKED THING I HAVE DONE ON ALL OF SOCIAL MEDIA I HATE IT HERE THIS IS JUST AGREEING WITH MATPAT AND YOU GUYS GAVE 4K LIKES W H Y
Lauren Grace They wanted me in show choir because I apparently was the only one who could sing base in key. As soon as I saw one guy doing interpretive dance in a turtle neck I said “Hello No”. I knew I didn’t want to be around people with their heads so far up their arses no matter how much I enjoy singing.
Troy: I CARE MORE ABOUT WHAt MY FRIENDS THINK OF ME!! Me: DO U KNOW HOW FRICKEN EXPENSIVE COLLAGE IS ?!?! I’m mean like honeyyyy... *Edit: Thanks for all the likes! Also stop saying I don’t know how to spell, that was part of the joke -~-*
Jessica Rivera Honestly, that was the most stupid line I’ve ever heard. If someone practically serve me a free college education on a silver platter, I’d totally devour it. If my friends can’t support me for preparing for a better future, then they’re not my friends. The problem with Troy, he neglected his friends on his own. Didn’t even spare a second to explain why he has to hang out with Sharpay all the time. It wasn’t Sharpay’s fault that he had a fall out with his friends, he was just really a jerk. Not that I sympathise considering what his friends did to him in HSM1...
Because troy is an idiot that doesnt deserve the medals,reward all of that stuff his a moron idiot like brainless and doesnt care for his friend his just making them waiter commanding them to do stuff that he wants troy your F@#$ING SH#T!!!
College* I know because I went hahaha. Also, I assume you weren't comparing yourself to honey. Haha I'm sorry. I'm just being mean... Like honey. Alright...I'm done being a jerk now.
Although I agree with every word said in this episode, tone matters. Sharpay constantly throughout the movie says things that are obviously sarcastic or made to put the others down. But once again I do agree she gets out down for nothing, she works hard and deserves to come out on top
She also hits on Troy in High School Musical 2 which was not appropriate. But they're high schoolers, they haven't necessarily learned how to be mature adults yet.
@@giavannarhem6479 I kind of wish we had an alternate universe where she was in love with Zeke instead. He'd actually be more deserving of her love and of Sharpay moving heaven and earth to help him get to the university of his choice with scholarship in tow.
It feels so satisfying that people are finally starting to realize that just because you are rich, talented, a pretty means you are bad. Heck, Sharpay might not even be that talented, she might just be way more hard working than me think at first glance. I mean, she IS super persistance about her dreams, and she might have been practicing 9 hours a day everyday since she was like 5. But noooooooo, because she is a rich girl that just happends to be blond and like pink things, she is obviusly the bad guy.
They could have broken that stereotype but sharpay literally judged Gabriella as soon as she entered the school lmao- she had to be the star of every single show and walked all over her brother
@@shwbrt11 Its not judging. Sharpay literally was rude to Gabriella as soon as she showed any interest in the musical like she's the bad guy because she does legitimate bad things lol
Yeah I hate how on tv the valedictorian is always a main character who not that great at school. Because at my high school to be that you basically had to take all AP classes.
They say that there is an ancient and powerful deal which can be made with weak minded teachers where you can trade your virginity for favors or even marks. He might've used this ancient forgotten deal to his advantage
It’s soo annoying how Ryan and Sharpay have probably been working their asses of for months. Then we have Troy and Gabriella who most likely woke up one morning and thought: I think I’ll try out for the school musical today, just for the fun of it
The heroine is a brash, loud mouthed and bit boastful rich girl but is ultimately a good hearted individual with a good work ethic. The villain is a mild mannered individual but also a greedy and cunning manipulator. This would've made the movie so much better
13:37 Sharpay: "Troy, Troy. This could literally change your life!" Troy: "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me." Isn't that usually what the whiny teenager in a movie says to make us hate them?
Sharpay: "Troy, Troy. This could literally change your life!" Troy: "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me." Och so he's basically saying Sharpy isn't his friend... why did I not notice this before.
Sharpay offered Troy a fully payed college education, as well as the starting blocks to a professional athletic career, and he DECLINED. I HAVE SO MUCH BEEF WITH THAT MAN
I always felt bad for Sharpay. She got her musical taken away from her, her talent show she had been waiting for for the whole year, and her scholarship.
in the books, Sharpay isn't really evil tbh. She's interpreted as a non-loveable, but decent character. Most of the time she is the rival, but in the books they usually get along in the end bcs.. classic disney man.
Bruh, I’m sick of these characters always achieving things just because their “talented” and didn’t have to work for it. These characters are huge Mary Sue’s and don’t deserve a single thing handed to them because all they do is complain, be lazy, and only get chosen for things just because their talented. Meanwhile, people who are hardworking, absolutely devoted to what they do are kicked to the curb, just because they weren’t as “talented” or “perfect” as everyone else. Every single movie like this just gives you the message, “If you’re hardworking, it doesn’t matter, because at the end of the day, someone talented yet not hardworking will replace you while you get ridiculed and overshadowed.”
Dam... I don't watch movies much but I watch anime and in one of the most popular anime "Naruto" it's literally about a child who works hard and in one of the exams he goes against "Neji"- a "genius" and beats him which leaves a message saying the opposite of what you said xD
Exactly. That‘s why I always hated the leads in the movie. I like the theme of being true to who you are despite people not accepting you but beyond that the entire Musical is essentially totally misunderstanding talent for something that‘s a fever dream. You can‘t be perfect at a thing right away. Everyone needs to learn a skill and I‘m quite sick of movies pretending some ppl are magically gifted. This is not reality. In reality people work hard to get skilled at stuff. They don‘t just succeed cause they are perfect people cause perfect people don‘t exist.
@@Stillious22 even though Naruto got his powers from his father a time traveling ninja and has basically a god fueling him. He didn’t work for those things- he barely worked at all! Rock Lee should have been the main character
True, and then they act like the protagonists that got everything did it by working hard even though most things got handed to them. I'm glad most movies today aren't using that same trope though because gosh it was annoying.
I've always love Sharpay Evans... She was my idol and I was too upset as a child when she can't get what she deserves... She was rich and had connections but still she tried her best and worked hard!
"Troy this could change your life" "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me" Okay, just those lines right there, I almost feel like this understory is what they were secretly going for, like something for the kids and something for the adults. Depending on your maturity level is how you watch the movie.
Boglenight that line always made me so mad. Yes friends are important but focus on you future man you can’t just bail on something as big as getting scholarships because “my friends will be mad at me”.
Also, as the friend points out, "she is offering you a tuition-paid college education just so you can sing with her in a talent show" Dude, I would sing with someone in a THOUSAND talent shows for that!
can we also agknowledge the fact that he says he is so poor and he needs the money for the scholership and lives in a goddamn mansion with a basketball court.
Mom and Dad: Oh yeah! We have enough to build a basketball course, a gardner, a maid and a big a** kitchen!! Also Mom and Dad : College!! Mmmm... Yikes! You know we don't have the money!
Compared to Elon Musk I'm poor, heck everybody is poor compared to those rick billionaire guys. Compared to an average Blue-collar worker? I'm still poor lol, living hat unemployment life.
personally, I love Zac Efron as an actor. I think he is great! But Troy is just not the right kinda character for him. Zac can do better than Troy. Come on, we all know that!
Yeah, the first time I saw it (cause my friends forced me to), I was surprised but as a child I didn't pay much attention. But as an adult: OH BOY. If this would happen to my daughter, I swear I would call their parents and ask them to have a very long talk about good behavior as a friend.
Fun fact: I had been offered the opportunity to be an extra in the movie, since I live in Utah, but I was too afraid to actually accept that invitation (though, my friend did accept that invitation, and got kicked out of the film because he punched Zack Effron (at least that's what he claimed happened)).
During the beginning High School Musical 2 between Gabriella and Sharpay, I actually had to pause the video of which I watched it and had to rewatch it. Gabriella sounds really passive aggressive and doesn’t even askif Sharpay is okay when she jumps back and hits the locker. Especially since from where Sharpay is standing, she’d run into the locker handle. Those hurt. Like a lot. I ran into one and my side was totally bruised for a while. But Gabriella just does a 270 degree circle in a hair flip and walks away. Like, seriously?!
I did. I watched it about 7 times. Sharpay is a brat. I'm willing to admit that.The scene is Sharpay pulling Gabriella aside and okay, in that line. She was definitely passive aggressive. But I'd be too. If I spent years being the best and some new girl came in a totally ruined everything I'd worked hard to do, I'd be a little bitter too. But the point where Gabriella is passive aggressive is when she does those vocal exercises, which causes Sharpay to jump back. As I said above, ramming into those lockers? They hurt. Gabriella doesn't ask if Sharpay is okay, instead she giggles and smiles and says, "See ya!" Before twirling around and walking away. So, maybe passive aggressive is the wrong word. But the fact is, Gabriella was totally rude. Sharpay might've been a bitch, but atleast she was an obvious bitch.
And I thought I was wierd that I hated Troy. I don't really know why...but during the movies (especially in HSM 2) his character annoyed me more and more. He broke promises, disappointed people and ignores the hard work that people like Sharpay have done for him. Now seriously, if someone just would give a place on a college or something like that, just for singing with her/him a song on stage, I would probably accept it and do it. When your friends blame you for that then they are jealous and aren't your friends in this case. Friends support eachother in any possible way and don't hate for this things. I liked Sharpay, also when my friends never understood that. All of them said that she's manipulative and only think about herself. But when you think about it, that isn't completely correct. Yes that she's manipulative and stuff, BUT she also cares for the others. Best example: Ryan. In the second movie he betrayes her and what does she? She gives him the trophy of the contest and is proud of him. And because of that is Sharpay, for me, my second favorite character after Ryan. Both of them are hard-working and care about others, also when it doesn't seem like. To be honest, I don't really like Troy and Gabriella. Sure, both of are hot and stuff, but c'mon. Both of them betrayed other people in a different way and made A LOT mistakes that brought themself and other people in trouble. And yeah, I kinda always like the villians more than the actual "heros". I like the hard-working and darker side more than the light side, where you kinda get everything served on a platinum plate. But it's my opinion and respect everyone who has an other opinion. I didn't think actually that this comment is getting so long...
How did Gabriela betray other people? Sure, Troy is evil, I would know. But why hate on Gabriela when she hasn't done much wrong. Sharpay is the better one, I agree, but at least appreciate Gabriela. There is so much positivity in her character. Please look at them.
I would just like to point out that Sharpay threw Ryan out first and baled on him so she could sing with troy. I agree she's not a villikan but too many people pointed out that Ryan "betrayed" her when she baled on him first and only asked him to come back when troy did the same thing to her.
this is literally something I'm passionate about lmfao Sharpay is the ONLY good character in the entire series, I'm so glad she got her redemption in Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure
Don’t forget, when Troy gets promoted, his friends turn their backs on him because he’s… yknow… busy with his job. Only accepting him back in when he decides to leave his high paying job and become a dishwasher again.
Troy: I'm more worried about what my friends think me me Me: yeah that's a great message to send to kids "the friends I'll probably forget matter more than my entire future"
@@azrael4457 My friends think of me? If my friends understand me, they'd rather support me if I'm working for my future. That's what good friends are like, they support you in your hard times rather than complaining about not making yourself available to them all the time. Friends are considered as one of the people who understand, if they don't realize what you're going thru and still want you to give them time it's pretty selfish of them. Poor Troy
When the annoyingly popular girl with an amazing voice is *in* the drama club and forces you, the more experienced one, to play second fiddle although you worked for *hours* to perfect that song and she actually forgets half of her lines in the actual show, you cover her sorry behind, and she thanks you by pointing out everything you did wrong including the *huge* fact that you stod slightly to the left instead of the right. *inhales* AAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Watching the HSM trilogy I've always adored Sharpay, she's always been my favorite character and you want to know why? The reason is that she actually had a personality.
Her confidence is what inspired me to be more confident about myself, even when I was like 12!! The way she walks in the corridor, she say what she has to say, she's not affraid of anything...!
@@NameName-yj7lp that's the beauty. She feels real because she has flaws. Having a personality means that it has flaws and thats what the viewers adore most as well. The leads, Gabriella and troy just feel bland as they have no flaws no character.
THANK YOU THANK YOOOOOU I knew that Sharpay wasn't the villain at all. Smh Troy never once called Gabriella his girlfriend so Sharpay always assumed he was free. He never made it official.
Sharpay actually reminds me a lot of Rachel Berry from Glee. They also want the spotlight, but they deserve it and are willing to work hard to get it. They can be divas at times and resented for that and their talent. Yet how we are supposed to view f he character is all up to the director. They wanted us to see Sharpay as a villain, that's what we were told to think, whereas Rachel was a (annoying at times) protagonist. We're told who to root for.
Phelise Joy when I was in theatre class at my high school there was this girl who reminds me so much of Sharpay because she obviously wanted to be in the spotlight and take over the whole drama class. She got the role of the wife in Fiddler on the Roof and I was the youngest child which I think was the bomb considering I was basically Gabriella who did not act on a stage before that
LoL I actually prefer Sharpay over Rachel. Her actions during her time in NYADA were absolutely despicable. She kinda redeems herself at the end but the impression never left
ahhhh I remember reading this theory on Buzzfeed. Sharpay was actually right though, and even Ashley Tisdale agreed. Justice for Sharpay. Who is with me?
You’re right I agree 100% agree with all this Sharpay isn’t actually the villain in the movies she is the victim she worked so hard for everything she wanted and was held down, delayed opportunities and humiliated by others Troy ruined everything for her and so did Ryan everyone seems to be against her and she just takes it as a kid I always hated her and saw her as the villain but as an adult I saw her as the victim and the hated one and that the protagonists were the real villains Sharpay deserved so much better yes she’s a bit of a diva and maybe a bit full of herself but she knows what she wants and her dream to become a famous actor is one of her biggest passions and she didn’t try and step on others to climb to the top she climbed herself to the top even if it meant doing things she didn’t want to do ❤️. Sharpay is a true queen! 😁
Why DO they always portray theater kids as egotistical divas in media? Most of them seem to just be really loud, fun nerds with only mild divaness a lot of the time.
Well...maybe where you live. At my school, a lot of the theater kids who’ve been in theater for a while, most likely upperclassmen, are pretty egotistical and douchey. The younger kids are usually better though because they haven’t been exposed to the toxicity for long
Kira Barnes I'm somewhat of a theater kid myself, and I think you are right about that, (Only some people are less mild than some) usually there are different types of theater kids, the much too enthusiastic ones, the enthusiastic ones, the people who think it is just fun, and the people who do it 'cause they don't know how the freak they got into a theater class. There are also the people who do theater but nobody notices that they do do it.
But at the same time, Im just in my last year at Junior High, so I don't know too much. I'm a theater kid myself, I probably just love it because of the teacher that runs theater.
One of my best friends is a theatre kid and she's the most brilliant, socially awkward nerd who's only performs on stage because she's being a character. She's awesome though.
"If there was a chance for me to perform on stage without me having to interact with the popular people, well boy howdy was I involved." Never have I related more to a MatPat quote
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Just wanna point out something:
When I was in theater, we also did a production of High School Musical. Literally one of the first things that my drama teacher said was that you could be the best singer in the world, but if you were timid and meek, you WOULD NOT get the lead role. Confidence had first priority. So the fact that Gabriella got the lead role for the play when she got stage fright at the audition is absolutely BONKERS to me.
Same
same Gabriella getting the lead role makes no sense! If you're trying out for a lead role you need to be confident in front of an audience if you have stage fright you should be in the back round or on the stage crew
@Madison Frank
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..... you know the last song of the first movie was the last callback, right? and she wasn't scared then
SAAAAME
Funny thing here is that Zac Efron said in an interview that he HATED Troy as a character and would punch him immediately in the face if given the chance.
can you send me the link where he says that
same i wanna see
I laughed when I read this. Also same
yes zac good boy
Bryan when did he say that
Straight up, in theater if you're not fully committed, you can forget about even getting a part. Troy missing the 1st act thinking he can show up for the 2nd? He's not getting on stage at all.
Trueee!🧐
Weirdly not for my school. Theater is really popular in my school with guys and girls. A lot of the performers do track and field, tennis, and softball along with it. Last year I helped with the lights since I’ve been helping the theater all the time with making props anyhow. The director even said the first full cast rehearsal was our dress rehearsal in front of the entire school system. The all day practice following it was the first time he had practice with everyone. Everything went off without a hitch. On Saturday morning before the show there was a track and field meet and everyone still made it on time without an issue
lissamaven Sharpay and Ryan can’t get the leads 24/7 because they are the only names on the sign up sheet for auditions for the leads because no one else signed up because Sharpays name takes up almost the entire sign up sheet. Darbus was probably tired of seeing Ryan and Sharpays Names as the only names for the leads for every single musical 24/7.
Also Troy would have shown up for the first act if Gabriella hadn’t been at Sanford which was like 4 hours or more away. He was at Sanford in movie 3.
He is fully committed to theatre in a way other wise he wouldn’t have showed up period. he just also likes basketball at the same time. Sharpay and Ryan are good at other things as well that aren’t theatre related. Like Ryan and Sharpay don’t balance their time doing other stuff when they aren’t doing theatre and singing.
Also I think the idea for theatre mainly is you just have to show up period mainly at some point. Other wise they wouldn’t have understudies for good reasons.Troy despite missing the first act still showed up for the second one. Plus if Gabriella hadn’t been at Sanford they would have Been there for the whole entire act. The only reason they missed the first act was because Gabriella was all the way at Sanford and Troy had to go and get her then drive all the way back. Gabriella was the other main Lead for the movie 3 musical he couldn’t have done the musical without her other wise he’d be stuck singing with Sharpay and he doesn’t like singing with Sharpay as much as he does Gabriella as shown in movie 2.
Troy in movie 3 kind of had no choice but to show up for the second act since he was like 4 hours or more away. Theatre also has to be more understanding for those who have other stuff going on espeically if someone is like 4 hours or more away. If they are understanding when someone gets sick,or has family issues...then someone playing a sport or being hours away is no different than someone who is sick or has a family emergency pop up. Especially if the theatre is understanding for people like with Sharpay then Troy is no different. Sharpays only Been in like 17 school productions her entire education like there weren’t times she and Ryan missed productions because something else happened.
Metal/rock/alternative music person :I think that’s because most schools are a lot more understanding if something comes up at the last minute there are understudies for a reason. Like if someone has a sports game or something else come up it’s no different than someone being sick or out of town. Sometimes last minute stuff pops up when you least expect it.
@@Megz1794 Theatre teachers choose who is best for the part and Darbus knows that Sharpay and Ryan are talented and hard-working performers. Just being able to sing is not the only thing that's considered and she knows absolutely nothing about Troy and Gabriella except that they were late (strike 1), Gabriella had stage-fright indicating that she wasn't used to being onstage (strike 2) and that they're dedicated to other clubs (not necessarily a strike but definitely puts them a tier below the actually dedicated drama kids who've spent years working at their craft). There's a reason new theatre kids are given supporting roles first.
Troy had already made a commitment to being in the play, and you can't miss the first act of a play only to show up for the second. Never mind the fact that it confuses the audience, it shows a clear lack of care and respect. If you can't do a job well, then let the people who actually can get on stage and give the audience what they want.
It's not a crime to have different hobbies, but it is bad to not know how to balance those hobbies. You can't say "well if he didn't care he wouldn't have shown up" because that's not how it works. If someone was late to a job interview, a recital, etc that'd be a strike against them. The world doesn't bend over to fix your mistakes. (except they're the protagonists so it does). Theatre, like everything else, requires commitment. Maybe your experiences are different, but most theatre shows require everyone to commit to the show. If you don't turn up, you aren't getting on stage. Even if you have a good reason, you still missed half the show, so no. If the show runs for more than one night you might get to perform later, but otherwise you're not getting on that stage. That's what understudies are for.
And speaking of good reasons, BEING SICK OR HAVING FAMILY ISSUES IS NOT THE SAME AS "oh i have a sport's game silly me haha". The former are completely out of your control. Unless you went skinny dipping in winter, coming down with a cold on the night of a performance isn't something you deliberately caused. Having a prior engagement is not a good reason, if anything it just shows bad planning on your part.
Finally, you can't use "well he doesn't like singing with Sharpay" as a defense. You think every co-performer likes the other? It's called acting and most directors will tell you to suck it up and get on with the show. Songs are usually 4 minutes long and shows max at 3 hours. Unless Troy had an actual good reason to dislike Sharpay (and by good reason I mean racism, violence, breaking institutional rules etc and not just "she's not Gabriella") then this is just petty.
Hell, why was Gabriella allowed to audition if she was gonna be 4 hours away the night of the show?? Why didn't she make plans to be there like staying over at a friend's place or driving there by herself earlier in the day?
In conclusion, I get the feeling you're just trying to exonerate Troy and Gabriella, and while you're free to like them as characters, you really can't justify everything they do. Besides, you don't have to, the movie logic already bends over backwards to fix their mistakes.
Honestly it’s good that Troy doesn’t go with Sharpay. She is so hard working and kind that Troy doesn’t deserve.
Plus she tried harder to meet him halfway.
Sharpay is *filled with DETERMINATION
I love Sharpay but sometimes she tries a little too hard especially when she changes the songs Kelsi writes Troy is a nice guy although sometimes it’s hard to show It
yess sharply worked soo hard for the show and what did troy do?COME IN AND BECOME THE LEADER OF THE PLAY 😒
@@Rfllllllll There’s two sides to that. She tells Kelsey to “write it in her key.” Different singers have different styles. Sharpay probably understands what styles suit her vocals. I did choir and stopped after a year because my voice sounded rigid and less smooth with the straight laced music choices. Give me show tunes, alternative, pop etc my vocals are solid- im a 2nd alto. Vice versa a classmate of mine sounded good in choir but if she sang a modern song she’d hit the notes (had a wide range) but it’d sound soulless and stiff. If you “compared us, she would skillfully be better. But it depends on who’s listening and what is required. In warm ups we sang a lot of pop music and when people heard me they were like 😱 you sound so good. I wouldn’t say Im an amazing singer.
Did it hurt Kelsey that her songs weren’t portrayed how she wanted? Im sure. But the kid didn’t stick up for herself either. Like she wrote the whole show. Im sure she had some input on creative direction. My high school did student led productions.
I also hate the fact that Ryan and Sharpay are so experienced and they probably worked their behinds off 24/7 to get the parts, only to lose to two beginners who literally have no reason to be the leads of the play
Guess its beginners luck
True, in my school's theater club, newcomers would often be extras, dancers/ensemble, and would be super lucky to have a part on the main cast in general. The movie is super unrealistic.
EXACTLY!
@@austinpelissier2131 wait.. you mean musicals dont spontaneously occur in the hallways of high school?!?!?! I totally thought this is EXACTLY what happens in high school. I'm shocked that this MOVIE made by DISNEY channel, would be less than realistic..
Except Ryan is the worst, hat wearing, backstabbing brother EVER.
And why is Troy the valedictorian when he clearly doesn’t have the grades for it? If I was the hardworking kid with straight A’s I would feel cheated.
David Kilamon
No way. I never saw the 3rd movie, just parts of it. Troy really was the valedictorian? That literally makes no sense at all.
Yeah it should be Gabriella
umm, to be a serious consideration in ANY school sport or activity, your grades have to be at LEAST satisfactory. He probably is naturally talented as a whiz kid but prefers physical activity over brain clubs. There's nerds in EVERY division.
The Uber Successful in hsm3, Troy said he would probably have to sit finals multiple times over....implying that he knew that he was a mediocre student at best. And anyway, “satisfactory grades” aren’t good enough to be class valedictorian.
i was gonna say because he was better looking...
but that would be weird for a teacher
This theory was so satisfying. So may people assume just because a girl is rich, popular and wears makeup, she has to be the biggest jerk in the world. And just because the main protagonist gets the boy, saves a cat and is "naturally pretty", she has to be a saint. Thank you for proving that things aren't that black and white.
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Amy Geyer you sound like youre a triggered 6 year old
Oh no watch out that girl.. wears pink... and has blonde hair
@@2tuffbasketball how are they being racist
THL Productions they don’t mean black and white as in race. They mean like good and evil. Nothing is one thing or another. It’s mixed and what might seem like a bad thing is actually good and vise versa
Lets not forget that Sharpay LEARNED ANOTHER LANGUAGE FOR HER AUDITION SONG. Now THAT is effort.
Dang she did?! What language was it?
@@Aimi_Kaneko Spanish(HSM1) and another one for hsm2 or 3 I think
Bop to the top was the song
SE COMPROMETIÓ!!!
@@Aimi_Kanekoin HSM2 she learns Hawaiian I think
There is no way two extremely experienced and talented actors who clearly have a standing relationship with the director, would get passed up for two COMPLETE noobs, one of whom has extreme stage fright
I mean it makes total sense for Troy to get casted but Gabriella 100%, would never have had the chance.
@@erindibblee8094 Troy didn't even sing in HSM it was Drew Seeley's voice all along, none of them would ever get casted in real life
Exactly! I mean Troy ig makes sense why he would be casted but why Gabriella? I mean 1. She's new to the school in the first movie and 2. Doesn't have any theater experience whatsoever! 3. Has stage fright
I mean usually you won't get a lead role until after you do a couple of shows, and you DEFINITELY won't get it on the first show you do ever
@@SieMiezekatze Your confusing Troy the character with Zack Effron the actor. Troy, the character has Zack Effron's body and Drew Seeley's voice when singing in the same way that Darth Vader has James Earl Jones's voice, and David Prowse's body at the time. By your logic, Vader really sounds like an Englishman.
But those two experience and talented actors couldn't even perform a simple love ballad and had to switch it to an upbeat show-stopper, as opposed to the complete noobs, who could actually sing the song as it was written.
In theatre, if you're not on time, not committed, and not serious overall about the production, you can forget about getting a supporting role, let alone the main role. As a theatre kid, Troy infuriates me.
What are you gonna do? Put him to shame with your box steps? Pull out the view points? Comment on his stance?
Exactly. I was in Les Miserables a few years ago and played the main character Jean Valjean. The theater teacher had to make sure I was COMMITTED to doing the role. I had at least six to eight hours per day working on this musical. I also had private singing lessons, extra blocking, character development and exercises and a huge schedule. I also had to memorize a lot of lines (obviously) , be on time for call time, and try on costumes as the opening night drew nearer. Troy and Gabriella are not and will never be good theater students
Yeah, yeah, we get it, you all are SO talented ...
@@universalpower419 No one said anything about talent. They just said you have to actually *care* about the show you're performing, which is true. Don't be a Troy.
Me, the person who is early to every audition: haha YES
Sharpay was the confident fashionista and drama club outcast that everyone at the school pretended to dislike but secretly admired and envied… she was always sweet at heart and never a true mean girl.
Regina is just a stupid untitiled manipulative brat compared to Sharpay!
Oh! And even if the actress is an adult, lets not forget that the character is propabably like 15!! That's sooo worse!!! Yikes!!
all she ever wanted was to be the star and she was great at it. she was just angey that she never got it.
Omg yes, Regina was a b**ch
Yes I also like fancy sharpie
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Imagine an alternate reality where Matpat starred in high school musical and Zac Efron is doing the theory channels.
Nope, I don't want to, it wouldn't be the same..
Yeah. That Zac efron doesn't do acting
It would be perfect
I would be ok w that
Signed, Wildcat fan
That would be weird… but it also wouldn’t because that would be normal in that AR… YOU’RE HURTING MY BRAIN
Well isn’t this just the most satisfying thing ever seeing Sharpay getting all the respect and Troy getting dragged in the dirt.
Why is noone replying lol
As she should💅🏾
pogchamp
yes
The justice they both deserved
And just because someone is protagonist doesn’t make them the hero, a protagonist is the main character and the story usually centers around them. Most might see Sharpay as the Antagonist, a character who is against the main character and not necessarily evil. But Sharpay isn’t really an Antagonist, she try’s to HELP the main character
The antagonist isn't against the main character, they just cause conflict. For instance, let's say the protagonist and his/her friend were both trying out for a musical. Would the friend be considered a villain because he/she is wanting the same role as the protagonist? No, but they do cause conflict. A villain is actively working to defeat the hero, but an antagonist just causes conflict in the story. Just because Sharpay is going for the same role in the musical doesn't mean she's the villain.
Sharpsy also gets maulplated by troy
Joline Taylor No she does not. Not for his good anyway. She was manipulative.
Even as a child i've never really viewed Sharpay as an antagonist but more of an "anti hero"
nevaeh By doing nice things for him in hopes to at least get a “lead role” of singing with him? Once? She possibly wanted more but settled with this very simple thing! Mean while troy made her do things for him as if she’d get that prize than in the end totally flops on the promise. Making someone do something because they think they’ll get something in return (while not holding your end of the deal) is manipulative and selfish. Very bad.
Sharpay isn’t perfect, she’s a little bit of a diva but she has redeeming quality’s, she has character flaws but compared to literally every other character she probably has the best morals.
She’s probably the only person who had actually a real character development during the series (including the spin-off)
The best morals? Sis literally attempted to break up Troy and Gabriella. She desperately threw herself at Troy knowing he had a girlfriend. And she was mean and selfish towards Ryan and others
@@thelovelyone2828 Sounds like an accurate teenage girl.
@@rorrim0 Um no. Sounds like a sociopath. I don't know what kind of teenage girls you hang out with but I wouldn't want to meet them. And as a teenage girl, I've never acted like that and will never
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Troy is probably the most short sighted person and naive character I’ve ever seen. In addition, the “good guys” are toxic af, Sharpay is actually a good person with something called honor yes I said it Sharpay is the most honorable and morally sound person in the series.
BRO HIS FRIENDS ARE JERKS
Literally he gives them a job and they get mad at him 💀
good guys are toxic af, and the villain has honor?
reminds me of joejoe's weird journey part 2
30% salty about Zac
10% puns
60% facts
Eh, you forgot the 2% of complaints about Ryan's hats
All of them combined equal 100% theory and 100% coke
@@thatinternetshipperyouknow632 That would be diet coke
100 % facts
@@amy-janebradford714 I'm sorry did he SAY diet Coke or did he say COKE???
(I'm joking don't hurt me plz)
What I always hated is how Troy breaks EVERY PROMISE HE MAKES in High School Musical 2 and has the NERVE to sing a song about how trustworthy he is
IKR he was my least favorite character by far.
Wait he does!? I haven’t finished watching the first two movies sorry.
And he’s annoyingly stupid.
Amir Kirkwood how?
@@WhoCares-yt4ot he sacrificed a potential full ride scholarship because he wants to hang out with his friends. he could have easily still had the scholarship if he had just chosen to not be like "you're all beneath me now that I have a scholarship", he could have had his friends and a future set up for him.
"This (college) could change your life!" "I care more what my friends think of me!" Thanks, Disney
Devils' Advocacy Productions oh my god I remember wanting her to go to the college so badly
I just am going to a smaller college and I have 2 friends that are past college age so yeah not a issue for me XD
He was honestly super insecure even though popular
HAHAHAHAHAHAH Same bruh
It’s a great lesson for the kids!
Poor Sharpay was villainized when she was just devoted to the arts and still did nice things for Troy and Gabriella. She was only shocked that Troy and Gabriella got the leads when they were late to auditions (Twice!) and have no experience in the arts and put no effort into their performances. Sharpay was betrayed by her own brother too, but she still kept strong and decided to help her high school’s theatre program. Troy and Gabriella got whatever they wanted even when they said and did bad things because they’re the main characters. Sharpay deserves justice.
Forgetting that Troy bullied the freshman in the third movie! He took his clothes and exposed him to the theater. Also, Troy was the reason the guy decided to sing with sharpay , ruining the show. Cause he believed sharpay liked him cause Troy said. Then Sharpay might have lost the scholarship to julliard cause her show was ruined. Troy May not have been the villain but was a really mean person to the only person who looked up to him.
I thought it was funny when he made the guy believe Sharpay had a crush on him..
@@here5588 It's mean.
@@Isabelle-hv6ny lmfao it's called a prank and jeez man "mean" who tf cares XD
@@baguette_tt9601 I feel like this is a joke but I can’t entirely tell so
If it’s a joke lmao
If it’s not
Why was I sent to court all I did was stabbed that dudes dog it was just a prank bro
@@elohim447 ikr bro couldn't handle a prank smh. People are so soft 🙄
Tbh Sharpay's movie really let us see how hardworking she really is and changes how you see her in the high school musical films when you rewatch. Also now I kinda wish Troy ended up not being able to go to any college and having no friends
@dristawxstaken Sharpay never let Troy and Gabriella have a turn to sing Kelsi had to do what Sharpay said she threatened Kelsi to rewrite you are the music in me really I mean come on sure she is talented but why not let somebody else have a turn
Just consider the snl skit about troy bolton canon lmao
omg I always thought that the scene where their "friends" gets Troy to admit he doesn't like Gabriela was pretty messed up. When your friends have someone they like you support them until you have a reason not to, not con your friend into saying the complete opposite of what their feeling.
They said that in a scene. I think it was Chad that said that if music is something that Troy likes, they should be boosting him up not tearing him down.
The “friends” are the most messed up characters definitely
I like how he chooses Gabriela over acting on stage with Sharpay, which is basically his college, income, etc on the line, but he'd leave her like that in an instant over what his friends said. It makes no sense.
That's why I didn't like HSM as a kid. Their friends were so awful it really turned me off
crunchy actually it was one of troys friends, Zeke who said that
As a theater kid myself, commitment is incredibly important, especially when you're a main role.
If Troy was just a bit nicer to his friends and girlfriend when Sharpay offered him all that money and the scholarship, he totally could've had his future set. But he was a jerk and bailed on all of them, and he let his ego get in the way. Yet, everyone still blamed Sharpay.
Ellie Nas preach
I don't think you can blame a kid for getting way in over his head for getting nice things. honestly, his friends should have tried to be understanding instead of the shit friends they were in part 1 and 2
💯 Agree. I don't understand why he couldn't have just been kind but firm with Sharpay (about his lack of feelings for her), have some fun singing a song with her, graciously accept her help in setting things up for college, whilst balancing his newly invested time with Sharpay with his friends. All it would have taken was some honest communication with both parties (Sharpay and his friends/Gabriella) and he would've been set.
Y'know Troy, if theater is really something you want to pursue, you're gonna have to start being comfortable performing alongside people who aren't your girlfriend :/
but that's cheating
@@svampebob007 *cough* *cough* "performing"
@@svampebob007 Lol there's a difference between cheating and working professionaly together.
@@Ying13280 high school musical deserved better. 🌟
@@svampebob007 how is it cheating to perform?
Okay guilty confession. I always loved her way more than the main characters. She was more memorable and wasn't actually that evil like you said.
Also, she's quite nice to look at ^_^
...I thought that was a given.
True, tbh the movie wouldve been quite boring without her
Same Ashley tisdale is such a goddess
@@questionmarkoverload And Ryan and his stupid hat
Tbh the person who annoyed me the most was Taylor. She knew Gabriella for all of two months and still tried to force her hand to choose the decathlon with the webcam stunt. And in HSM 2 she kept blowing up the narrative that Troy was taking more interest in Sharpay when in reality Troy was super uncomfortable with every interaction with her but was trying to do what he could to be able to afford college.
So, Taylor's a "pick me" girl?
Taylor also had a bit of internalized misogyny where she told Gabriella about how all cheerleaders are vapid & boy crazy, and how the Decathlon women's academic ambitions made them better
Taylor was nosy and messy
there's an alternate universe where matpat was the star of hsm and zach efron runs a popular web series on youtube
I would watch both of those
I doubt he would be half as good as matpat
It would be called The Zac Theorists
MatPat is a lot more catchy than ZacEff.
Soda 🇵🇷 True. True
Troy:
Sharpay: “You coulda had a bad b*ch, noncommittal. HELP YOU WITH YOUR CAREER, JUST A LIL” 🎶
Supposed hold me down, but you're holdin me back. And that's the sound of me not callin you back!
Immediatly started to sing😂
WHY MEN GREAT TIL THEY GOTTA BE GREAT
@@kkaaiittlliinn DON'T TEXT ME SAY IT STRAIGHT TO MY FACE!
Mayonaka Tsuki BEST FRIEND SAT ME DOWN IN THE SALON CHAIR
"I care about how my friends see me more than my future"
That's... that's not a good lesson Disney
Sarah Walter that's what I thought!!!!
Right? Like that’s not really a good mindset
Their making a new one and by the trailer everyone’s life has gone to hell and Troy is a bar guy
zappy tarziea you sure that's not fan made?
Sarah Walter
😂 IKR
Honestly I think the real villian in High School Musical was Troy's father and Mrs. Darbus, they together put a lot of pressure on the students and really if it wasn't for them, they wouldn't be as divided as they were. Sharpey didn't even like Troy in the first movie, so it was totally confusing when she was interested in him in the second.
True
ten bucks says the directers wanted a reason behind the conflict of the movie and Sharpay was the scapegoat.
No one can take that bet because everyone knows you’re right.
Dude, this ain't a theory, you're basically proving it RIGHT. Not a theory, but a true statement. It has great evidence and rebuttals, and there is explanation as well. I think that you're right.
Edit: Prob most likes I’ve gotten.
That's not what a theory is
A hypothesis is essentually an educated guess. A theory is a statement you say with evidence, and a theorum is something that's 100 percent true.
Like it's a theory that fat people have a lower life expectancy but you can never 100 percent say that all fat people will have a lower life expectancy because it isn't true and you can't prove it to be true either way.
So most things that aren't mathematical are theories, even when they have strong evidence, like the theory of Gravity and the theory of evolution
@@megaibfernape3612 Dude, I did not say that was a theory XD The first sentence I said was "Dude, this ain't a theory"
@@megaibfernape3612 he just said that?
@@megaibfernape3612 r/woosh
DaPandacommanda yt That's no r/woosh.It wasnt even a joke
Another problem I had with Troy and is that he could barely act. Whenever he was singing with Gabriella he could convey the emotion of love but when he was singing with sharpay he looked like an idiot. Sharpay was able to pretend she was in love with her brother.
Plot twist: "Sweet home Alabama"
Edit: Because of Sharpay
@@garopropiedades what 😳
i mean thats because he was kinda forced to do that and was surprised by the show. seeing that way, sharpay also was bad acting without troy in hsm3
@@garopropiedades excusemewhat
@@Leo-ox1rd but she was caught off guard because that guy wasnt supposed to be there
I've always said this. I always hated Troy and Gabriela so much because they always reminded me of the popular kids who never talked to me but still called me a brat or a bitch for never talking to them. Funny thing is they never tried to talk to me either and if they had they'd have realize I could not talk. Literally could not.
The_White_Witch hates life are you mute?
I think they point they want to get across is they were too busy calling her a bitch and hanging out with dickheads to even want to talk to her.
ILL KILL THEM FOR YOU CAUSE I HATE THOSE POPULAR BRATS!!! AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THEM!!!
Janeth Cervantes Calm down dude
Janeth Cervantes wow
I always liked Sharpay the most back when I first watched these movies. Now that I'm older and can really comprehend all the things you've pointed out, I'm glad that even as a kid I could pick up on these things. I found myself gravitating towards her more and more as each movie released, and thinking that I'd much rather hang out with someone like her than any of the others. She always seemed like a genuinely nice person that was just misunderstood.
But hey, that's just a theory... a comment theory
I don't think a genuinely nice person would homewreck on someone's relationship, bully people, treat her brother like trash, and manipulate others for selfish reasons
High school musical feels like its made at the expense of theater kids, not for them. Kind of like The big bang theory being about smart people for dumb people.
Especially when you consider how it gets pretty much every detail about musical theater and performing completely wrong. Even really obvious pedestrian stuff, like the fact that any given performer in a musical needs to not just be able to sing, but also dance and act.
-The series acts as if the only roles worth getting or even talking about in a musical is the lead (or the lead's understudy).
-It acts as if being in a musical isn't just as huge a commitment as sports or the science club. I mean sure, they made it to the callback. But now that they have the parts, what about rehearsals? Are we supposed to believe that they'll never have a scheduling conflict ever again? Or just become exhausted from dedicating themselves to _two extracurricular activities at once?_
-It acts as if a musical collaboratively written by a senior year class -- most of whom are not in the drama club-- about _themselves_ would be anything other than a pipe dream disaster??? (Because yeah, that's what the musical in HSM3 is.)
_-It acts as if JULLIARD would want TROY BOLTON as a student and that he would be at all tempted to go there._
Why is Big Bang theory made for dumb people ? I know people who watched the series ( I watch it myself) and none of them is particurarly dumb.
@@jotarokujo8423 Because your dumb if you really think this is how 'smart' people operate, also the extreme sexism in the show is crazy I used to think sheldon was cute until I actually listened to some of the stuff he says.. yeah he's just an incel
Now that I see this Troy and Gabriella are the real brats
Sharpay is the only decent person in the ENTIRE franchise
Sharpay is hardworking and nice and just because she is rich doesn't mean she is rude
Her parents worked hard foe their money
True the first movie all she did say all get you a role and help you lut secomd movie helps troy woth college like his dad is a basketball coach like he cant afford college all on his own third movie literly does nothing to anyone but dreams of being on brodway
Sharpay and zeke were the only good characters
@@egendary6811 i really like the both of them. They're the kind of people who can see the beauty and everyone :) especially Zeke
No I like Zeke 😇 he's a sweetheart
@@emilyjdgv6095 truuuue omg he's such a cinnamon roll. I really wish he had more screentime tho
I've also noticed that it makes a "Blondes vs Brunettes" fight which is really not something that sits well with me. Oh, sweet, smart brunettes are better than hardworking, pink-loving blondes who are usually cast as the villain. Can we all just...not slap on stereotypes.
I swear to god I had to change schools because I was bullied for being a pink loving blonde and everyone called me Barbie and stuff. Now I've embraced my Barbie identity every time that I'm walking into the faculty of international economics I'm studying in Europe. People just assume you can't be feminine, confident and smart at the same time. Watch and learn.
Yesss why do movies like to make blondes the bad or evil one
Ooh look at me I'm a dumb, rich blonde who loves pink and if you hurt my feelings I'm telling daddy.
Why do so many movies do this? It makes me sick. *Sigh*
"brunette" is a real English word? I'm French and I just laughed so hard to see this word in the middle of your comment 😂
@@Daiglaki it's originally French borrowed by English. In French the masculine spelling is Brunet and is taken from Brun which literally means brown
But it typically means girl with brown hair.
Troy: I don’t want my friends to know that I sing
Also Troy: immediately sing in front of the teammates
As an 11 year old die hard theater kid I also loved Sharpay, because she inspired me to be more open about what I want to do with my life. Sharpay and her brother worked so hard. Troy and Gabriella slacked off, took what they had for granted and didn’t deserve any of their roles.
They just wanted to have fun tho- Sharpay doesn’t need to be the lead in everything
yeah but she did deserve it bc she worked harder and actually did stuff
Also if you do a show you must be deicated Troy and Gabriella didn’t do any shows before that. You should at least do 2 shows before getting a lead
Somewhere in an alternate universe : "Matthew Patric you stole my career!"
Who knows maybe Zac Efron would make a great theorist.
Wow I didn’t even think of that 🤣😂😅🤟🏾❤️💕
I died laughing from reading this
I would totally want to go to that alternate universe!
Somewhere in the universe, Zack Efron is laughing.....
Friend: ”so what did you do over Christmas ? “
Me: “ oh, I watched a grown man over analyse the plot of a children’s film “
Emme Lacey early teen you uncultured swine
Emme Lacey I'm gonna use that one thanks
I understand why Sharpay was mad when Troy wouldn’t sing with her, I mean she put so much effort in to getting college scouts to get in and Troy wouldn’t even sing ONE song with her. He could have gotten a scholarship and decides that friends were more important
BRUH Sharpay gets everything? Y'all aren't looking at Gabriella. She gets to everything without experience half the time smh
Wooli e I swear her and Troy are the ones that basically get everything, it’s all handed to them without them doing anything to EARN IT!!!! Which Ryan and Sharpay did, they were honestly the most hardworking characters in HSM to me, yet in the end they didn’t get the Spotlight it’s handed to two people who didn’t even take it seriously. Literally this kind of gives the message that you shouldn’t work hard for the things you want, you’ll get it by being lazy (Troy) inexperienced (Troy & Gabriella)
True
Natalia Washington periodt
At least Gabriella IS smart so getting into Stanford wasn't out of reach. She also did choir before HSM1 so she had some singing experience. Everything else just sort of fell in her lap.
Ninja Aura Not ALWAYS
When mat is lowkey sharpays super fan😂
Ellen Marie after zeke
Mat rebutted everything that people could use to bash Sharpay
**highkey
Aren't we all haha
@@weedleisopcute3626 *refuted ,not rebutted
Sharpay: Helps Gabriella with vocals, helps Troy get to the college of his dreams, gives her brother the award (even though he backstabbed her), even though she didn't get chosen for Juilliard (which makes no sense because she is super talented), she still decides to help out with her school's theater program, listens to her parents, helps out the lead actress, and helps out a little boy, and is a SUPER hard worker.
Troy: Gets everything he wants, BUT STILL CAN'T EVEN SING ONE SIMPLE SONG! woooooooooooowwwww
Juilliard does not even have a musical theater program
Yeah except sharpay back stabbed him first
And can’t act to save his life
Raquel De Abreu 2026 ??????
whaaat, Sharpay only cared about herself... And only helped Troy to win the talent show... She is a spoilt brat...
The more I watch HSM I think “Why are they auditioning to different songs?” It would make more sense that they would be doing the same song so Ms. Darbus could more easily determine who sings it better. That being said I would love to have seen Ashley and Lucas do Breaking Free or Vanessa and Zac (or more likely Drew Seeley) doing Bop to the Top.
Or they should have three songs, one for low singers, one for middle singers, and one for high singers. Or the one song should just have 3 parts which is the most realistic part.
Troy: "I care more about what my friends think of me!"
Also Troy: *Completely ditches all of his friends to play basketball with the professionals*
Am I seriously the only one who noticed this?
That was the point of the second movie though. It was about Troy failing his friends but at the end realizing he was wrong. His friends made him realize that he was becoming too self-absorbed. He recognized it and changed. So, in a way, he was redeemed from that.
@@monsev.arellano9125 it doesn’t make him any less of a bad friend and a liar
@@Caitlin288 i mean everybody makes mistakes, that’s why he made up for them because he realized he was wrong
oH No ItS cAlLEd ChAraCTeR dEVelOpmENt
You missed the entire point of Troy’s story in HSM 2
Wait... Did Troy just say he only cares what people think about him? Yet another reason why to dislike him! Yeah, Sharpey may be portrayed as mean, but she didn't take her wealth for granted. I guess I just want to emphasise the point that she tried to work on her own regardless of her wealth...
troy get's everything and doesn't use them in a good way. Sharpay, on the other hand, never gives up, and is thankful (probably) for her riches.
it's gets not get's
Mark Weaver but she's a applied brat who does anything she wants...
Garbriella is the only one of the so called “good guys” who isn’t spoiled or rude or mean. She hasn’t done really anything wrong. She actually try’s to be nice. Everyone else is jerks though
Sharpay and Ryan were working in theatre for YEARS and when two newcomers rock up and get the parts they should have gotten through logic of theatre and basic unspoken laws of the world, they had every SINGLE right to make sure those two were 110% dedicated to their roles, and they just weren't. Sharpay wanted to help the newcomers and got given crap for trying to defend herself or even try to get her role back. She is a theatre kid, she knows how it runs and the dedication needed and she wanted to prove they weren't, because who wouldn't? If you know someone has 3 jobs and is going for a fourth, and that position just so happens to be the one you've been gunning for, then this lil brat rocks up, gets the job, then still can't find time to do the job YOU worked so hard for, you'd be furious
EDIT: WHY IS THIS THE MOST LIKED THING I HAVE DONE ON ALL OF SOCIAL MEDIA I HATE IT HERE THIS IS JUST AGREEING WITH MATPAT AND YOU GUYS GAVE 4K LIKES W H Y
Amen
Amen
Amen
Ajax Tanner So right
Amen
Young me: wow, the people who are the leads in all the plays must be the coolest kids in school
Me as a theater kid: oh
Lauren Grace
They wanted me in show choir because I apparently was the only one who could sing base in key. As soon as I saw one guy doing interpretive dance in a turtle neck I said “Hello No”. I knew I didn’t want to be around people with their heads so far up their arses no matter how much I enjoy singing.
Matthew I guess it really depends what school you go to, huh.
Troy: I CARE MORE ABOUT WHAt MY FRIENDS THINK OF ME!!
Me: DO U KNOW HOW FRICKEN EXPENSIVE COLLAGE IS ?!?! I’m mean like honeyyyy...
*Edit: Thanks for all the likes! Also stop saying I don’t know how to spell, that was part of the joke -~-*
Jessica Rivera Honestly, that was the most stupid line I’ve ever heard. If someone practically serve me a free college education on a silver platter, I’d totally devour it. If my friends can’t support me for preparing for a better future, then they’re not my friends.
The problem with Troy, he neglected his friends on his own. Didn’t even spare a second to explain why he has to hang out with Sharpay all the time. It wasn’t Sharpay’s fault that he had a fall out with his friends, he was just really a jerk. Not that I sympathise considering what his friends did to him in HSM1...
Jessica Rivera yeah that’s 10k down the drain
Unrelated but *gram* 👏 *mar* 👏
Edit: Ohhh, okay. I see the edit now, and I finally, FINALLY get the joke. My bad!
Because troy is an idiot that doesnt deserve the medals,reward all of that stuff his a moron idiot like brainless and doesnt care for his friend his just making them waiter commanding them to do stuff that he wants troy your F@#$ING SH#T!!!
College* I know because I went hahaha. Also, I assume you weren't comparing yourself to honey. Haha I'm sorry. I'm just being mean... Like honey. Alright...I'm done being a jerk now.
Although I agree with every word said in this episode, tone matters. Sharpay constantly throughout the movie says things that are obviously sarcastic or made to put the others down. But once again I do agree she gets out down for nothing, she works hard and deserves to come out on top
Tbf wouldn’t you be rude or sarcastic to two people who clearly think they’re way too important?
She also hits on Troy in High School Musical 2 which was not appropriate. But they're high schoolers, they haven't necessarily learned how to be mature adults yet.
tbh all sharpay ever did was try and help troy achieve his dreams and everyone was always mean to her 😂🤷♀️
riles_roo Fr!
Your really correct
Not zeke he told everyone top give her a chance
@@giavannarhem6479 I kind of wish we had an alternate universe where she was in love with Zeke instead. He'd actually be more deserving of her love and of Sharpay moving heaven and earth to help him get to the university of his choice with scholarship in tow.
@@giavannarhem6479 An underrated character😒
It feels so satisfying that people are finally starting to realize that just because you are rich, talented, a pretty means you are bad. Heck, Sharpay might not even be that talented, she might just be way more hard working than me think at first glance. I mean, she IS super persistance about her dreams, and she might have been practicing 9 hours a day everyday since she was like 5. But noooooooo, because she is a rich girl that just happends to be blond and like pink things, she is obviusly the bad guy.
They could have broken that stereotype but sharpay literally judged Gabriella as soon as she entered the school lmao- she had to be the star of every single show and walked all over her brother
@@Jay-id3wi are you judging Shar-Pei because if you are well then shut up 🤫🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
@@shwbrt11 *Sharpay
@@shwbrt11 no
@@shwbrt11 Its not judging. Sharpay literally was rude to Gabriella as soon as she showed any interest in the musical like she's the bad guy because she does legitimate bad things lol
how is troy valedictorian when i've only seen him in class once, and that was the last day of school
Yeah I hate how on tv the valedictorian is always a main character who not that great at school. Because at my high school to be that you basically had to take all AP classes.
They say that there is an ancient and powerful deal which can be made with weak minded teachers where you can trade your virginity for favors or even marks.
He might've used this ancient forgotten deal to his advantage
Yeah I think Gabriella deserves it more than troy
this reads as if you personally went to high school with troy bolton
He wasn’t Gabrielle was. They just let him give a speech for unknown reasons.
It’s soo annoying how Ryan and Sharpay have probably been working their asses of for months. Then we have Troy and Gabriella who most likely woke up one morning and thought: I think I’ll try out for the school musical today, just for the fun of it
tbh i never liked troy cuz most of the time he was over rated as the “ perfect teenager “ that everyone loves
Anime ASMR same
Anime ASMR yeah Ryan was always better
Plus, no teenagers are perfect they are just walking abominations of axe not and showering in three months
Just like Harry Potter
Me too
Troy would honestly have been a great villain if the story actually treated him like the villain and not the hero.
The heroine is a brash, loud mouthed and bit boastful rich girl but is ultimately a good hearted individual with a good work ethic. The villain is a mild mannered individual but also a greedy and cunning manipulator. This would've made the movie so much better
That makes the movie good to me tbh. It's like in I Am Legend. I don't want to reveal spoilers so watch it yourself.
Great
RIGHT
13:37
Sharpay: "Troy, Troy. This could literally change your life!"
Troy: "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me."
Isn't that usually what the whiny teenager in a movie says to make us hate them?
I love how this answer is the actual problem in HSM1, but the "solution" in HSM2.
You should never be what somebody else wants you to be. Therefore, Troy is basically making himself get peer-pressured
13:37
1337
Yes, because what your friends in HIGHSCHOOL think of you is soooo much more important than your future
Sharpay: "Troy, Troy. This could literally change your life!"
Troy: "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me."
Och so he's basically saying Sharpy isn't his friend... why did I not notice this before.
Sharpay offered Troy a fully payed college education, as well as the starting blocks to a professional athletic career, and he DECLINED. I HAVE SO MUCH BEEF WITH THAT MAN
Oh, he knows what he really wanted. BOO. FREAKING. HOO.
@@sonicinfinity1871doesn’t he want to be a basketball player
@@SuperDestroyerFox that's what I SAID
@@sonicinfinity1871 wait hold on, are you mocking the comment or Troy declining everything. If you were mocking Troy then I agree with you.
@@SuperDestroyerFox I'm mocking the comment nimrod now give it a rest
YES IM SO GLAD SHARPAY IS GETTING THE RESPECT SHE DESERVES
100%
her movie was literally E V E R Y T H I N G
😭😭😭😭poor sharpay
But its ok now justice is now given
fangirl47 nice profile pic
I always felt bad for Sharpay. She got her musical taken away from her, her talent show she had been waiting for for the whole year, and her scholarship.
Lyrics With JoJo can you like my vlogs please
Lyrics With JoJo they literally screwed her over
Me too
Lyrics With JoJo well, the scholarship isn't that big a deal, right?
evandragonfire I think she wanted to prove that she didn't need her family's money to be successful
In an alternate universe, Zac Efron just uploaded a Film Theory on how Matthew is the villain of the High School Musical series
LOOOOL
HelixSpectrumGamer does this mean matpat would have a six pack
Six pat they call him
AnIndecisiveWeeb and he would say mat stole his part
@@samuraibear5102 id pay to see that
in the books, Sharpay isn't really evil tbh. She's interpreted as a non-loveable, but decent character. Most of the time she is the rival, but in the books they usually get along in the end bcs.. classic disney man.
I am sorry books their are books
I'm 100% sure Matpat is lowkey jealous of the "stupid hat"
Aaron_Wells Lmao
Fricking hat, man.
HAHAHHHHAHH
Yep he's jealous of the hats
Maybe
Bruh, I’m sick of these characters always achieving things just because their “talented” and didn’t have to work for it. These characters are huge Mary Sue’s and don’t deserve a single thing handed to them because all they do is complain, be lazy, and only get chosen for things just because their talented. Meanwhile, people who are hardworking, absolutely devoted to what they do are kicked to the curb, just because they weren’t as “talented” or “perfect” as everyone else. Every single movie like this just gives you the message, “If you’re hardworking, it doesn’t matter, because at the end of the day, someone talented yet not hardworking will replace you while you get ridiculed and overshadowed.”
Dam... I don't watch movies much but I watch anime and in one of the most popular anime "Naruto" it's literally about a child who works hard and in one of the exams he goes against "Neji"- a "genius" and beats him which leaves a message saying the opposite of what you said xD
Exactly. That‘s why I always hated the leads in the movie. I like the theme of being true to who you are despite people not accepting you but beyond that the entire Musical is essentially totally misunderstanding talent for something that‘s a fever dream. You can‘t be perfect at a thing right away. Everyone needs to learn a skill and I‘m quite sick of movies pretending some ppl are magically gifted. This is not reality. In reality people work hard to get skilled at stuff. They don‘t just succeed cause they are perfect people cause perfect people don‘t exist.
The sad,sad truth about movies 😤😢😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@Stillious22 even though Naruto got his powers from his father a time traveling ninja and has basically a god fueling him. He didn’t work for those things- he barely worked at all! Rock Lee should have been the main character
True, and then they act like the protagonists that got everything did it by working hard even though most things got handed to them. I'm glad most movies today aren't using that same trope though because gosh it was annoying.
I've always love Sharpay Evans... She was my idol and I was too upset as a child when she can't get what she deserves... She was rich and had connections but still she tried her best and worked hard!
I honestly cant believe its been 6 YEARS since this came out I MEAN THIS IS SO GOOD FOR HOW LONG THIS CAME OUT
"Troy this could change your life"
"I'm more interested in what my friends think of me"
Okay, just those lines right there, I almost feel like this understory is what they were secretly going for, like something for the kids and something for the adults. Depending on your maturity level is how you watch the movie.
Boglenight that line always made me so mad. Yes friends are important but focus on you future man you can’t just bail on something as big as getting scholarships because “my friends will be mad at me”.
Also, as the friend points out, "she is offering you a tuition-paid college education just so you can sing with her in a talent show"
Dude, I would sing with someone in a THOUSAND talent shows for that!
Sooo he threw away his college education for his friends 🧐🧐🧐what kinda friends are these.
Yeah, when he said that all I could say was:
"Yikes..."
I’m 14 and I don’t like him.
can we also agknowledge the fact that he says he is so poor and he needs the money for the scholership and lives in a goddamn mansion with a basketball court.
Mom and Dad: Oh yeah! We have enough to build a basketball course, a gardner, a maid and a big a** kitchen!!
Also Mom and Dad : College!! Mmmm... Yikes! You know we don't have the money!
Compared to Elon Musk I'm poor, heck everybody is poor compared to those rick billionaire guys.
Compared to an average Blue-collar worker? I'm still poor lol, living hat unemployment life.
It’s Utah I bet houses aren’t as expensive but college can cost lots of money
@Ks I was guessing cuz my friend lives there in a big mansion and she said It wasnt that ex
MatPat: WE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME
Troy: *rips shirt off*
MatPat: we are mostly the same....
"Actually, just the plot of Grease"
Me: "Uhh.... He has a point."
This is actually funny though, Grease IS a musical
Just Imagine Matt being Troy in “High School Musical”
I would be a *LOT* more interesting
I would buy that film
Zach effron: eh i like the actor but he doesn't fit in the role
MatPat: NANI!?!
Next up:
Welcome to Zac Efron theory!
personally, I love Zac Efron as an actor. I think he is great! But Troy is just not the right kinda character for him. Zac can do better than Troy. Come on, we all know that!
No way
The hidden camera was so wrong of their friends. Sharpay was never that bad.
hi Ashton Kutcher
Yeah, the first time I saw it (cause my friends forced me to), I was surprised but as a child I didn't pay much attention. But as an adult: OH BOY.
If this would happen to my daughter, I swear I would call their parents and ask them to have a very long talk about good behavior as a friend.
summary of this video:
1. temper tantrums over zac efron getting the role
2. ryans stupid hats
3. sharpay is not evil
Willow Gibson lmfao 😂😂😂
I like Ryan's hatz
Jackson Kelley Me too his hats are cool
@@marial7625 we have the same taste
Sharpay is savage and selfish. That is true
Fun fact: I had been offered the opportunity to be an extra in the movie, since I live in Utah, but I was too afraid to actually accept that invitation (though, my friend did accept that invitation, and got kicked out of the film because he punched Zack Effron (at least that's what he claimed happened)).
what did the entitled spoilt rich boi do?
@@rachelgarnier-qv8kq my friend never really explained.
During the beginning High School Musical 2 between Gabriella and Sharpay, I actually had to pause the video of which I watched it and had to rewatch it. Gabriella sounds really passive aggressive and doesn’t even askif Sharpay is okay when she jumps back and hits the locker. Especially since from where Sharpay is standing, she’d run into the locker handle. Those hurt. Like a lot. I ran into one and my side was totally bruised for a while. But Gabriella just does a 270 degree circle in a hair flip and walks away. Like, seriously?!
Gabriela was the passive aggressive one? I think you need to watch that scene one more time.
I did. I watched it about 7 times. Sharpay is a brat. I'm willing to admit that.The scene is Sharpay pulling Gabriella aside and okay, in that line. She was definitely passive aggressive. But I'd be too. If I spent years being the best and some new girl came in a totally ruined everything I'd worked hard to do, I'd be a little bitter too. But the point where Gabriella is passive aggressive is when she does those vocal exercises, which causes Sharpay to jump back. As I said above, ramming into those lockers? They hurt. Gabriella doesn't ask if Sharpay is okay, instead she giggles and smiles and says, "See ya!" Before twirling around and walking away. So, maybe passive aggressive is the wrong word. But the fact is, Gabriella was totally rude. Sharpay might've been a bitch, but atleast she was an obvious bitch.
So sharply does the thing that most hightschool heroes do and Gabriella does the stereotypical mean girl hair thing
And I thought I was wierd that I hated Troy. I don't really know why...but during the movies (especially in HSM 2) his character annoyed me more and more. He broke promises, disappointed people and ignores the hard work that people like Sharpay have done for him. Now seriously, if someone just would give a place on a college or something like that, just for singing with her/him a song on stage, I would probably accept it and do it.
When your friends blame you for that then they are jealous and aren't your friends in this case. Friends support eachother in any possible way and don't hate for this things.
I liked Sharpay, also when my friends never understood that. All of them said that she's manipulative and only think about herself. But when you think about it, that isn't completely correct. Yes that she's manipulative and stuff, BUT she also cares for the others. Best example: Ryan. In the second movie he betrayes her and what does she? She gives him the trophy of the contest and is proud of him.
And because of that is Sharpay, for me, my second favorite character after Ryan. Both of them are hard-working and care about others, also when it doesn't seem like.
To be honest, I don't really like Troy and Gabriella. Sure, both of are hot and stuff, but c'mon. Both of them betrayed other people in a different way and made A LOT mistakes that brought themself and other people in trouble.
And yeah, I kinda always like the villians more than the actual "heros". I like the hard-working and darker side more than the light side, where you kinda get everything served on a platinum plate.
But it's my opinion and respect everyone who has an other opinion.
I didn't think actually that this comment is getting so long...
@Charlotte Campbell In a positive or negative way?
@Charlotte Campbell then the bad way is always the good way...
I didnt like sharpay, but thats only because I dont like bitchyness... but everything here is so true. maybe I was more biased than I thought.
How did Gabriela betray other people? Sure, Troy is evil, I would know. But why hate on Gabriela when she hasn't done much wrong. Sharpay is the better one, I agree, but at least appreciate Gabriela. There is so much positivity in her character. Please look at them.
I would just like to point out that Sharpay threw Ryan out first and baled on him so she could sing with troy. I agree she's not a villikan but too many people pointed out that Ryan "betrayed" her when she baled on him first and only asked him to come back when troy did the same thing to her.
this is literally something I'm passionate about lmfao Sharpay is the ONLY good character in the entire series, I'm so glad she got her redemption in Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure
Kirsten Lutley I love Ashley Tisdale!
Kirsten Lutley- Good? You are ahead of yourself.
Don’t forget, when Troy gets promoted, his friends turn their backs on him because he’s… yknow… busy with his job. Only accepting him back in when he decides to leave his high paying job and become a dishwasher again.
Troy: I'm more worried about what my friends think me me
Me: yeah that's a great message to send to kids "the friends I'll probably forget matter more than my entire future"
Yes. Don't you hate it when everybody forces you to care about your future more than your friends? Ugh, so annoying.
Yes college and your future job doesn’t matter just what your friends think of you.
@@alexamorales6714 your friends will get you more money than a job
Yeah I thought was kind of out of no where for a protagonist
@@azrael4457 My friends think of me? If my friends understand me, they'd rather support me if I'm working for my future. That's what good friends are like, they support you in your hard times rather than complaining about not making yourself available to them all the time. Friends are considered as one of the people who understand, if they don't realize what you're going thru and still want you to give them time it's pretty selfish of them. Poor Troy
I actually thought the friends were the villians...no offense.
No offence taken probably. What are your arguments?
Kotton Kitten watch at 9:37 and so on
I agree!
How about everybody, but sharpay, is the villain
Madeline Simmons,they’re the evil masterminds behind the scenes controlling it all and creating all the drama
Jk mate
I couldn't really place why I didn't like Troy; this is an eye-opener.
All it took was a trailer for me to hate him.
He was a lazily made character. All of them were. That's why Sharpay was meant to be evil but she was good
I still hated him even before this theory.
Same
Yea heck this video actually makes me want to be friends with sharpey
I actually agree with this. She helped with his career and goals. Gabriellia only cares about what she wanted.
When the annoyingly popular girl with an amazing voice is *in* the drama club and forces you, the more experienced one, to play second fiddle although you worked for *hours* to perfect that song and she actually forgets half of her lines in the actual show, you cover her sorry behind, and she thanks you by pointing out everything you did wrong including the *huge* fact that you stod slightly to the left instead of the right.
*inhales* AAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Malvern Wilson how did the drama club react?
ikr, gabriella is so annoying and spoiled. how the tables turned lmao
Watching the HSM trilogy I've always adored Sharpay, she's always been my favorite character and you want to know why? The reason is that she actually had a personality.
Her confidence is what inspired me to be more confident about myself, even when I was like 12!! The way she walks in the corridor, she say what she has to say, she's not affraid of anything...!
That’s a freaking roast
She did have flaws but also had passion. Like minus how rich she is she can be a person a real person
@@NameName-yj7lp that's the beauty. She feels real because she has flaws. Having a personality means that it has flaws and thats what the viewers adore most as well. The leads, Gabriella and troy just feel bland as they have no flaws no character.
She had a bad personality
THANK YOU THANK YOOOOOU
I knew that Sharpay wasn't the villain at all. Smh Troy never once called Gabriella his girlfriend so Sharpay always assumed he was free. He never made it official.
Sharpay has always been my favourite and I loved how she never gives up and remains a really awesome person throughout the franchise. :D
Sharpay actually reminds me a lot of Rachel Berry from Glee. They also want the spotlight, but they deserve it and are willing to work hard to get it. They can be divas at times and resented for that and their talent. Yet how we are supposed to view f he character is all up to the director. They wanted us to see Sharpay as a villain, that's what we were told to think, whereas Rachel was a (annoying at times) protagonist. We're told who to root for.
Phelise Joy when I was in theatre class at my high school there was this girl who reminds me so much of Sharpay because she obviously wanted to be in the spotlight and take over the whole drama class. She got the role of the wife in Fiddler on the Roof and I was the youngest child which I think was the bomb considering I was basically Gabriella who did not act on a stage before that
Phelise Joy TELL ‘EM!!!
I call this mobbing xD
But isn’t that kind of normal in high school. If you don’t fit in or your the popular kid then well shit
LoL I actually prefer Sharpay over Rachel. Her actions during her time in NYADA were absolutely despicable. She kinda redeems herself at the end but the impression never left
Yes yes yes yesss
ahhhh I remember reading this theory on Buzzfeed. Sharpay was actually right though, and even Ashley Tisdale agreed. Justice for Sharpay. Who is with me?
YEET
ΛᄃΣMΣMΣ The thing is, MatPat probably looked at the buzzfeed theory
Dizney
When I first watched HSM I thought sharpay was the good one
Dizney omg I made the 666th dislike 😱😱😱😱😱
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You’re right I agree 100% agree with all this Sharpay isn’t actually the villain in the movies she is the victim she worked so hard for everything she wanted and was held down, delayed opportunities and humiliated by others Troy ruined everything for her and so did Ryan everyone seems to be against her and she just takes it as a kid I always hated her and saw her as the villain but as an adult I saw her as the victim and the hated one and that the protagonists were the real villains
Sharpay deserved so much better yes she’s a bit of a diva and maybe a bit full of herself but she knows what she wants and her dream to become a famous actor is one of her biggest passions and she didn’t try and step on others to climb to the top she climbed herself to the top even if it meant doing things she didn’t want to do ❤️.
Sharpay is a true queen! 😁
Petition to remake the series staring MatPat as Troy
Yes.
I’d sign that
@@harlanlamar3634 Buddy same
Signed
Yeah, I'd really go for that. A remake starring MattPad!!!
Why DO they always portray theater kids as egotistical divas in media? Most of them seem to just be really loud, fun nerds with only mild divaness a lot of the time.
i bet you're a theater kid lol
Well...maybe where you live. At my school, a lot of the theater kids who’ve been in theater for a while, most likely upperclassmen, are pretty egotistical and douchey. The younger kids are usually better though because they haven’t been exposed to the toxicity for long
Kira Barnes I'm somewhat of a theater kid myself, and I think you are right about that, (Only some people are less mild than some) usually there are different types of theater kids, the much too enthusiastic ones, the enthusiastic ones, the people who think it is just fun, and the people who do it 'cause they don't know how the freak they got into a theater class. There are also the people who do theater but nobody notices that they do do it.
But at the same time, Im just in my last year at Junior High, so I don't know too much. I'm a theater kid myself, I probably just love it because of the teacher that runs theater.
One of my best friends is a theatre kid and she's the most brilliant, socially awkward nerd who's only performs on stage because she's being a character. She's awesome though.
"If there was a chance for me to perform on stage without me having to interact with the popular people, well boy howdy was I involved."
Never have I related more to a MatPat quote
For some reason, I’ve come back to this video every time I’m bored and wanna watch something good. It’s just so entertaining.