Dog shock collars: How they work & why you may NOT want one
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- High tech dog training collars are a controversial approach to stopping whatever your dog is doing that drives you nuts. Here's the tech and an expert tell you if it's a good idea.
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Dog collars are being sold everywhere (by the thousands), so we definitely felt it important to cover them. But we actually agree with you - animal cruelty is BAD!! We encourage you to watch the whole video, as the last 5 minutes deep dives "SHOULD you use a dog collar" (and I think you'll agree with the answer) as well as explores dog collar alternatives.
Great interview at the end. As someone who grew up with dogs I learned a lot I didn't know before!
how many dogs have you guys trained. have you ever trained a working line dog like police dog.
@@protectork9831 Why do you think that a police dog needs to be trained with a shock collar? A dog is a dog. They learn the same way. They respond to stress the same way. They desire attachment and love the same way.
@@catprom2390 ... Have you ever trained a police dog. I assume not, please dont speak on things you know nothing about.
@@tundelayne443 The fact that you don't recognize that a dog brain is a dog brain says that you don't actually know as much as you think you do. Utilitarian intent does not change learning theory.
For those of you who scoff at e-collar users and say to "actually train your dog" and use 100% positive reinforcement, I would encourage you to open your mind a little bit. I love my dog to PIECES. He is a husky German shepherd mix, seven months old, and quite well trained. We work on training every day. I have plenty of time to devote to him. I live in a rural area and every day we go for long walks through the forest. He has little interest in toys and does not enjoy fetch for longer than a few minutes, so long, off leash walks are one of the only way to get out his boundless energy. He stays right with me and has about 95% recall. Can we get to 100%? I believe we will, but the fact is, that kind of training takes years of consistency to achieve, and in the meantime, I want my pup to be free to explore the woods and get the kind of mental and physical stimulation he needs. I bought him an ecollar for emergency recall situations. I use the collar on vibrate ONLY when he is extremely distracted (by a deer, for instance) and gets that one-track husky mind that seems to filter out all sound. Even if I have a juicy steak, no treat will outweigh the pure joy of chasing a deer. The few times I have had to shock him -- I would not even call it a shock, it is a low stimulation, I have shocked myself with it so I know what he's experiencing -- were enough to regain his attention.
What is abuse? My tired, happy dog, who comes home muddy at the end of the day, who (maybe) received a light shock for a moment, but immediately forgot about it, and furthermore is EAGER to put on the e collar because it means he is going out for a hike, or my friend's dog, who sits in a small fenced-in space outside all day and has never gotten to run free in his life because my friend is too scared he won't come back? What about a few other commentors, who pointed out that a mild shock to warn the dog that cars are dangerous is far better than having them find out the hard way? Even if you don't let your dog off leash, there is always the possibility they will escape, and having never been off leash before, it is unlikely they will know how to behave, and instead will head straight to the road...
I appreciate your thoughtful comment. If only ALL e-collar advocates used them as last resort instead of promoting for obedience training. I recognize theses collars have a life saving place, like your case. Most people are just lazy and confirmation bias is rampant when you try to research online.
@@whydoibother3741 i use it as a last resort. My dog is extremely food aggressive. It has gotten to the point where she will aggressively attack us until we bleed. She also aggressively attacks our cat, and he could get seriously injured. We have tried positive reinforcement, reward training, and nothing has worked. We are hoping one shock will be enough.
I'm considering getting a collar for my 6 month mastiff puppy. I'm not bothered about stuff like barking, but I am concerned that she has always had a habit of picking up stones, and now she has begun to swallow them. I cannot always see if she is picking up a stone, and she could end up with an intestinal blockage. I need to prevent this behaviour now, and the only thing I can think of is creating a 'stone aversion' with a collar. Like you said, there are some situations where the alternative behaviour is much worse than the aversion training.
@@wendydee3007 I think you should consult a animal behaviorist 1st. Not a dog trainer. An actual behaviorist. There are other ways to fix this problem, I am concerned because you are saying you want to create a single learning even with adverse stimulation, AKA serious pain. It is actually possible to stop the behavior even if you are not there via behavior modification with out severe pain.
@@erickanorris3391 Thank you for your concern. Although I never had any intention of causing pain to my dog. Last week I bought a collar and it has a 'beep' option. To our relief, we have managed to used positive conditioning with the beeping noise. She hears the beep and comes running for a piece of sausage. No aversion :o)
An e-collar is like a hammer. You could use it to build a shelter and save a man's life. You could also use it to crush a skull. The tool isn't bad or good. The value lies in its use.
I have a shock collar and have done so much research. I only use vibration and try to give a lot of warnings. It's for recall when we're out. I carry treats or a toy as a reward when she comes to me. I have yet to have any problems and my dog gets so excited when I grab it. She'll be 4 in april and has only recently started using the collar. I tried everything from a long leash to treats only and nothing worked all the time, only sometimes. I do think it should be regulated as not many people actually learn about them and end up damaging their dog more. Great video though☺
Typical story. Tried everything else cannot control dog. Do your research or get epert advice on using an e-collar properly in conjunction with appropriate rewards and good result. Well done and thanks for comment. I actually prefer the electric stimulation as it is more adjustable than vibrate and some dogs are initially freaked out by the vibrate but the e-stim can be set at the lowest level that they can just feel.
Salty c
I am sure they have tried everything. I went to training classes, one to one and he even went off to a renowned trainer where he lived there for three months, he came back and she said hes the worst shed seen (he was a rescue from a bin in europe)
He runs off and is constantly on a lead. I have two other dogs who go off lead just fine but he is restricted and I believe a little discomfort to try if it works will give him the rest of his long life enjoying off lead running.
You cant make comments like that when u dont know the full story
GOOD on you, you didn't want to take a chance of hurting your dog, me too, how can your dog love you if you basically electrocute them. There is just not enough caution urged, doggies pay the price
Most dog owners over estimate their recall ability. You need to work on recall more your dog as opposed to vibrating its head when it doesn't come lol
@@DF-te2vm You're appealing to emotions and fearmongering from a state of ignorance.
These things are great I got one for my wife
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Did it work on her
Wow
Lol, did u turn it up to 99
😂😂😂
Nothing worked other than the electric shock on my dog, it worked , in 2 days my dog was well behaved
it only "works" because it was so shocking and uncomfortable and painful. That is really sad that you wanted a quick fix and believe that hurting your dog is ok to fix a behavior especially after watching this video! Yikes ...wouldnt want to be your dog!
@@user-xh3gv9cu2sI just find the shock collar, hells tool because it sucks having to hurt dogs just for them to listen. What do people think, they are obviously animals/dog breed animals are wild or calming or just showing you love people need to act right
I use it. Saved my dogs life a couple times and other animals. My dutch has a high prey drive and this allows me to take her on walks without a leash so she can be free. But had an incident where she chased a squirrel into the street but this stopped her before she got in front of an incoming vehicle. It's just to reinforce your command saying no and come doesn't always work. Plus I paid for a trainer to train me and her with this tech.
Carlos Cardenas
You shouldn’t need to torture your dog to enforce your command. Get proper training you sadistic freak.
Learn how to use prey drive as a reward and you wont have to shock em.
@@mbadial21 explain? Because it sounds like your saying I should let her attack the neighbors dogs and cats
Gazzy like what? What’s the alternative for his situation that you would train it
mbadial21 how?? What does that mean
Correction isn’t punishment and dogs respect correction.
Cedric Vinson yeah but it’s not good for their health I’ve read...my dad uses one on my dog and I hate it, she has anxiety from it :(
@@earthwerm Then he's using it wrong, the dog shouldn't be afraid of it. It's probably a cheep collar too which actually can hurt your dog
@@thatonetransguy2297 I can't see what I wrote for some reason, what did I say again lol?
@Outpat that your dad uses one one on your dog and he has anxiety
Yeah I just want my dog to STOP RUNNING AWAAAAAY!!!! All she does is dart out the door when she gets the chance🤦🏽♀️ she’s a rescue and she just doesn’t listen I don’t know what else to do other than take her back to the shelter. & they kill dogs so I rather just not cause it’s not a no kill shelter.
i used positive only dog training. results were great except in high stimulant environment. one day dog bolted out of the door. I told him to sit come, stop down. all the commands he knew but failed to follow. seconds later he was hit by car on the road. from that day on i train "come means come" and they have to follow that command no matter what. there is lot of reward when they follow but if they fail once they get correction. correction is never out of anger and it is hardly ever used. first year and half there are no corrections, after year 3 there are rarely ever a correction because they understand.
So let me get this straight. Because you failed to train the dog not to bolt out the door, you started shocking your next dog? That sounds insane.
@@mbadial21 read my comment again. If you come to same conclusion, read the comment again. If you keep coming to samw conclusion, than you will know who insane is. I train police dogs personal protection dogs , sport dogs; might know thing or two more than you do.
If you knew what you were doing, and kept the dog sub-threshold, that would not have happened. You should know that you *never* work a dog beyond the level that a behavior has been proofed and you never practice recall without a long line.
So many punishment based trainers simply don't understand how to really do sub-threshold work, then they fail, they fail the dogs, they fail the clients, then pull out the shock collars because they aren't good enough and simply need more humane training. Instead of acknowledging their own error and fault as a trainer, they blame the dog.
Btw -- the science actually says that balanced trainers have the worst results. Worse than trainers that just punish even. That's crazy that it takes you three years of punishing and rewarding to get a behavior solid. Not acceptable.
@@catprom2390 you cant proof for every scenario period. If your recall is on point you wouldn't have to worry about If the dog is in prey drive or defense they will always respond. That kind of training can not be done with positive only . I was positive only for years. If you use leash, withhold reward even food that is considers punishment (since you are scientific and all)
Thank U! This is my 1st dog EVER! He barks like a fool at EVERYTHING and it is terrifying my bird. Thanks AGAIN
A bark collar would be a bad idea for any dog that barks as it doesn't actually address the issue.. the barking could be a symptom of his frustration, pent up energy, boredom, and obsession and so on. That is what you need to tackle and a bark collar won't do that..
Yes like someone else said but to add on exercise your dogs brain give food puzzles make sure has a lot of toys they like and just spend more time with your dog like on a personal level training daily and walking
get a educator collar by the educator brand its not cheap but it does not hurt unless you put it at a very high level or just take the dog to get trained
Lotsoflove53 isn’t that basically a shock collar? Because you’re saying that it doesn’t hurt if it’s on a low level, which is confirming that it can hurt. And what exactly does it do? If it doesn’t hurt then what does it feel like?
dont listen to these dorks get that bark collar or better yet a shock collar. barl collars work automatically and can malfunction when on low battery. keep the shock collar on as much as possible. deter their bad behavior and leave it on when youre gone. it wont shock the dog but they dont know that and they will keep from barking and annoying your neighbors
Yeah my dog Jynx had a similar situation he got shocked for jumping over fence and he started spinnin rapidly jumped back over the fence and laid in the sand i felt really bad, i don’t feel like shock collars are the thing but for teaching me this it really helps thank you
You used the collar incorrectly. You failed your dog
@@tobiastruman4941 exactly!!! So many people go balls deep into an ecollar that have no idea how to even use them then talk badly when the dog has a negative reaction towards it I take the ecollar out and my dogs are up spinning in circles of excitement to many jackasses that have no clue and no business using one that have the negative comments on them 😂
People love dogs but don’t want to put in the amount of time it takes for their dogs to behave appropriately. Dogs are a bigger commitment than most people with dogs are willing to accept. I too am a part of this problem
Agreed. However. I've lived with, seen and spent time on dogs that suffered extreme separation anxiety. There is a difference between a dog that responds and a dog that runs (ruins) your life. What is a long enough training period? 3 years? If offering or training another replacement behavior for barking doesn't work, what then? At some point you gotta let them know whose boss. I won't put up with the yapping or aggression. At a certain point thats nonsense. The dog can go to the shelter.
As in people who use shock collars? Because i am putting the amount of time and so is everyone I know who uses one like we are literally training service dogs so you are the problem
Nac Luna seriously. E collars can save your dog life. An ecollar is no damn shortcut. If you think you can put an shock collar and just press the shock button every time it’s doing something wrong without any indicator that your dog understands that’s the problem.
I’ve used it on my dog and she knows what I’m asking and I swear she loves the e collar more than the leash or any other equipment
@@maggielim34 that's literally what I was saying....
@@Orcinus1967 and guess who's fault that is. Yours for not training your dog before the problems arised and yeah the dog will run your life because its literally like having a child who else are they ment to rely on? They depend on you to teach them how they are ment to act
As a dog trainer , I have to chime in and say his feeling at 15 then going up to 35 is NOT a good representation of how it should be demonstrated. You need to note that you want to increase one number at a time to get result .
People might get the perception that we train like that. Ultimately if your dog feels it on 4 there's never a need to just jack the number to 24 or even 14. That many numbers difference can destroy good training if done at the wrong time in the wrong environment with no extra stimulus in the environment.
To the person who suggested seeking a trainer ....
THANK YOU
I’m trying so hard not to get any type of shock collar but I have a deaf dog and he can’t hear me when I’m trying to get his attention even waving my hands in his face doesn’t always look
Excellent video. Thanks!
I just got one for my dog best thing ever I have tried it myself anytime she tries to run towards somebody she always turns back he comes back to me it's helped me a lot to get my dog to listen so for those that are against shock collars you have no idea how useful they are I didn't like to hide your efforts but after a year or two after having her it helps a lot
Can you list the dog collar that you have? 😁
@@pocahontas6381 fr
What’s the point of this video? Misleading for those who don’t work with dogs or understand how these tools work. Doesn’t seems like research was done, just “content” for content sake?
I'd say the volt meter qualifies for research. Not sure the subject warrants a peer reviewed article in a journal.
it was a whole lot of yap
Ugh clearly no OWNERS should buy these unless you seek a professional first unless you sought one before.
- first the dog needs to be conditioned to it by wearing it for weeks and extending the duration of it
-second, they have to understand why they’re being stimmed and that’s with a lot of reps
- you don’t use this for every single training method
-along with the ecollar you need verbal marker words
I can literally go on and on but the ECOLLAR IS NO SHORTCUT to training.. it’s just another tool like a leash or collar.
My chow chow been using a ecollar and it’s been great for off leash work or nuisance barking. For any excessive barking I pair it with a verbal command and now I don’t have to use the ecollar anymore cause she understands the command.
They don't shock they are like TENS units they deliver stimulation. If used properly with positive reinforcement they are good tools they are just that a tool it won't replace good training technique or magically stop unwanted behavior.
Some collars do like the invisible fence collars or bark collars or cheap off brand collars. E collars are like TENS units though
I bought a shock collar for my 9 year old adopted dog .. the best thing I did. I nearly had to get rid of her, but it made I was able to go out for a few hours at a time … a life saver. Highly recommend used with care
In Australiia there are some states that have legislated to ban the use of dog shock collars in 2022 but not in queenland....wonder why!!!!!
For everyone out there wanting to get a dog just because "I like the idea of having a pet" just don't do it. A dog is a loving animal that needs constant structure and discipline. The best way to put it is that if you want a well behave/trained dog you have to be a parent/leader/guidance to them. Being a parent is not something you can do only 2 hours a day... is a 24/7 responsibility that needs a lot of planning ahead. Dogs are also not cats... I always encounter a lot of people wanting a dog just because they did well with a cat. It's funny how most cats already come with a chip in their brain programmed with the latest update to be independent. Dogs on the other hand have nothing preinstalled and sometimes you have to rebuild their behaviors into good ones... they need to slowly learn your ways and you need to literally teach them what things are good and ok and what is not just like you would do with your child as he grows with you.
Any suggestions for a two year old L'hasa Apso dog who goes crazy when she see's another dog in the neighborhood 🙈
Your comment should be broadcast around the world weekly. Straight facts. 💪
You should say that to my mom literally, lol. But straight to the point.
@@utube0372put it down lol
Hardcore
I own a American pitbull terrier and an E-collar. We've only had to use the tone and vibration. It's solely a mode for communication as she is young and easily distracted. When she is off leash and goes too far, we use the tone. When she doesn't come the 1st time she's called, we use the tone. When she repeatedly disobey, we use the vibrate. One such instant is when she playing with a dog too aggressively. If I sayb"break" more than twice and she doesn't, I will use #5 vibration only because that's an active situation. I do not punish her (I've not had to), but I can't think of a time when I'd need to shock her. Vibration is, for me sufficient. I've actually ordered a tone and vibration only collar as I fear consrantly about accidentally shocking her.
2:36 that reaction though
😂😂😂
This video used to be called “Dog collars that shock, spray and squeal” I think they changed it minutes after uploading because the dislikes were double the likes...
we have an aussie pup that we use an e-collar on. the beep means come back, buzz means quit it. the shock is rarely used, only in extreme situations (he has been shocked twice in two months on level 4/99, tested on a friend of mine, he didn’t feel any pain at 4, and we went up to 45 before he couldn’t take it anymore!!) it is not cruel and they create freedom. we don’t always walk on a leash in areas where it is not required such as campgrounds, it allows him to explore and run but we always can rely on him to listen to the beep or buzz.
Yeah and every dog is different. Some dogs don't need an E collar. Others if they don't it becomes dangerous for the animal and others.
What brand are you using?
They should have shock anklets for human on house arrest! Lmao jp don’t come for me
Yes, put them on the Dumbazz Owners who refuse to TRAIN their dog.
Denniss7420 sometimes its not always easing training a 50 pound pitbull😂Because all he wants is the treats.
@@Denniss7420 yeah or we could put them on stupid humans who dont know that this is the same thing as a leash but better and when a dog pulls on a leash and you pull back its actually worst on the dog then a stim. I mean pulling on your dogs neck can cause trankia damage that can kill your dog not so much a stim.
@@servicedogonabudget180 one reason I prefer a harness over a collar
Smart idea
Lol
I adopted a 32lb Bull Terrier/Cattledog mix from a high kill shelter over Thanksgiving. Nothing has brought more fear, stress and anger and anxiety into my life than adopting this dog. I live in an apartment building so the mere thought walking this dog through the hallways to get him outside (without him jumping and barking at every dog and human) for his walk is absolutely frightful! I hired a highly rated dog trainer (bought a 6 pack of 45 min sessions for $1500) and it didn't really help. She did a lot of positivity type training with treats.
I am at my wits end over this and I need to get this issue fixed for fear of being evicted. At this point, I think I've decided to try one of these e-collars or take the dog back to the shelter.
take the dog back because that dog deserves better than you
This dog is a liability. My father lives in a row home in a big city. The neighbors insist on adopting pit bulls from no one knows where or what happened to them. The dog bit the dog walker inflicting nerve damage. My father and neighbor have adjoining front doors. They were both exiting their houses at the same time and that dog tried to rip into my 85 year old father. Thank god the owner had a good hold of the dog. Give that dog up pronto unless you are a lawyer or can afford a good one. This is not your problem. Historically Pit bulls aggressive towards humans used to be kulled. Today these behaviors are allowed to persist. Not all are bad. Plenty of bad tiny dogs out there too. But these can be dangerous animals and you need to give it up.
musicessexx get one and learn to use it properly
Watch Big Chuck McBride. You need to establish yourself as the Dominant one in the house. This is Not cruel (it's dogs language) and it CAN be done without breaking the dogs spirit.
musicessexx, seems you chose a mixed breed that is too much for you to handle. Is this your first dog ? The cattle dog has the nature to herd, to control its flock (so to speak). This dog, without proper frequent training will want to control other dogs, and humans too. On top of that you've got the bull terrier traits. Generally I'd say, not the best choice for apartment living unless you can give this dog many hours of play, running in order to release some of that high energy. Personally, I'd try to gift it to a rancher. If you've kept it i'd love to hear how things are going with you and this dog now. I'm prayin' all is well, or at least getting better.
First wear it and feel the pain then use it for your pet
bg4tification Yes, I’m pretty sure half of America knows that lol, they tell you that in school.
Like all tools ecollars can be inappropriately used, and yes in that case it can be detrimental. However when used by a properly trained handler and a properly conditioned dog. In a fair manner, It can be a great tool that keeps the dog safe, and takes traning to next level.
No. An ecollar is never necessary. It works through causing discomfort and avoidance. There are plenty of other methods out there that have much more effective and long lasting results.
Properly trained handlers don't need shock collars or punishers. If you are using punishers, you need to go back to school.
All positive dog trainers are plague to dog world. Result in more dogs put down than if they were trained with balanced training
@@protectork9831 please provide proof. Otherwise this is just laughable and based off of fear that more and more do not need ecollar or pinch collar
@@protectork9831 Not according to science dude. The actual hard data actually shows that dogs that are trained with punishers with shocks, prongs, etc. are actually more dangerous and aggressive. It's documented in study after study. You might wanna Google it.
I also think they are forgetting that these collars can be instrumental in training deaf dogs, as well as any off leash dog, when implementing just the vibration and tone features. The vibration setting allows a deaf dog to be let off leash to play... And still "check in" with you when it feels that stimulus.
The fact is... These collars are just tools. Tools are not inherently good or bad. That is up to the user. Paul Bunyan would make much better use of a chainsaw, for instance, than would Jeffery Dahmer. But you can't say the chainsaw was cruel!
If interested in using ANY training tool, from a pinch collar to an E-collar or even just a crate... Reach out to a trainer for a quick lesson in how to use the item correctly and what you should or shouldn't expect from it.
I really like that you come at this from an open-ended, get-you-thinking perspective instead of just outright saying "Do this, not that!" as well as highlighting why a spray collar isn't as harmless as it might seem to us.
A lot of dog owners like taking shortcuts, and use collars *instead* of training. They should never be the first or especially not the only option. A lot of them as demonstrated are not made equal, so researching and indeed testing on yourself should happen- think about how police must be pepper sprayed before they use it! I found the level that was too uncomfortable for me and wouldn't go above that. Also, lesser brands (those $20 collars on Amazon) have been known to have very dangerous electrical failures- it's worth the extra money to get what is best for your pet, including sessions with a trainer FIRST. Shock collars have their place, but not so much in the hands of an average dog owner.
Great video, bang on. Understanding your dog, why he does what he doe before taking corrective action is key as I am learning more and more. Keep up the great content!
Most people Recomend no higher than a 5. He couldn't even feel that.
Say this. Your dog sees something and runs towards a busy road and you're trying to call or give a treat or something but they are hyper focused. An e collar can give them a little tap from meters away and snap them out of it.
yes people please do not use these. because putting dog down is always less painful.
Sadly that is what many people think. Purely positive force free dog killers.
You have to remember this arent meant to correct behavior through punishment or hurting the dog. Properly used through training your dog should be able to react to the lowest amount of stimulation. It should feel no more than a tingle to a dog to represent the sensation of your touch to get their attention. Dogs have more nerves than we do making them more sensitive to the sensation from the collar. So we cant start feeling a sensation on those collars till around 12. where a dog can start feeling around a 5. Just like how your car can do 100+ mph, doesn't mean you have to use the highest level.
Hol on is that @Kipkay?
While I do agree that these collars can be abused and not used properly, I disagree with the whole premise of the video. In my opinion these should be used as a training tool. They are especially great at off leash obedience. I would rather my dog get a small vibrate or shock than have them get hit by a car. A couple personal opinions about these is that only the vibrate should really be used, the collar should be mounted to where the device is on the side of the neck, not the front or back. If shock is used, it's at a low level. These should only be used in a positive manner to help modify your dog's behavior. Upstate academy has a lot of great videos on how he uses them and why on his channel.
Yeah, but most people in this world are stupid, barely focused primates. Most people are not like you and me -- they need someone to tell them how to act, because they really don't think for themselves. It's the reason why 60 year old car manuals of yesteryear had directions on how to adjust the valves on your engine's cylinder head, and today they need to put a warning in them not to drink the battery fluid. It's no wonder every social lie that look for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist is so easily sold to these idiots.
Thank you for this , I was just going to buy 2 for my 2 dogs . I changed my outlook
yeah i’m getting one still
Thanks!
“Is this my last RUclips video?” 😂😂😂
This video speaks to collars used for barking. Unfortunately it's an obviously biased review and there's no relevant reference to these collars used for training purposes.
Just say u abuse your dog 🐶🐕
we are thinking of getting this shock collar because our dog keeps barking for no reason like at night when we leave to go to sleep and she starts barking and when shes alone outside just barks at nothing or cats or like leaves if they move. She also gets reallz nervous around other dogs even when theyre far away and starts barking and even when we try to calm her down she doesnt her recall is also bad with other family members with me she usually comes when shes in like a big fenced area but if she accidentally gets loose theres noway she would listen to any of us and goes on a rampage. we really dont know what to do and i would like to try the e collar thing but im scared ut might worsen her behaviour or if we like over use it outof frusturation and like damage her or sth idk
Just wondering if you could put the list for the best collars that provide an electronic shock
Ones that I've used that I absolutely swear by is the Garmin Pro 550 and the Dogtra 1900s.
@@FalconzInc Add in the Garmin Sport Pro. Basically an entry level 550.
There is always a reason for an animal behaving the way they are. Sometimes we don't experience it, but that doesn't make it less real. Don't just take the easy way out, or don't get an animal. Removing the symptom doesn't actually fix the problem. We learned this with humans, when do we understand that this applies to animals as well?
U know what, we are living in a world of idiots, people are getting more and more stupid as time goes on, and I think it’s partly due to all these new easy ways out (cheating), were not doing anything the good old fashioned way, it’s all about money these days, where’s the love? Is there any left? Or has it been completely surpressed and replaced with money and nice things?
My German Shepard our mix is a puppy and he just high energy plays way too much and is all over the place.
@@trialsofavirus8749 I believe it's more of a crisis in philosophy and education.
I'm ol' school too. All of our dogs were very well trained, by our parents. As babies, we were placed in the play pen close by so we could begin to be trained as to how to properly train / work with our many dogs. Every dog we had had an even temperament, and all were well behaved...just as we kids were too .lol. We didn't need to take them to someone else to train them. From a very early age dad began to work with them, even in using play , (because they still were quite young) , never-the-less he still was teaching them. He too was ol' school and his methods were very simple, repetition, praise, reward. The reward was never a food treat but something that brought that pup joy, like a small rag/towel rolled up and tied and they could tug-of-war a moment or just play with it however they liked. Of course, never leave out the pat and a ''good girl'.' I see ppl everyday in the park across the street from where I live, most who have dogs. I'd say close to one out of 200 actually have worked with their dog. These dogs pretty much are walking their owners. The owners, they've turned our California State Captl Park into a hunting ground. Dog owners are almost always on the phone, dog is pulling owner as it chases squirrels, cats, birds, etc. This places dogs brain in kill mode which they sometimes carry over towards another dog. The closest thing these ppl have to ''training'' is to pull on the leash trying to drag their dog away from another persons dog. Do they have a clue that THIS IS NOT TRAINING... I don't think they do. It's a chaotic mess. Sadly, these dog owners don't even recognize that this is a problem. I'm searching ''shock'' collars however, to see if I can tweak one enough to place the prongs on the outside of the collar in the efforts to protect my very chill, well behaved dog. In the U.S. we all seem to be dealing with this overnight, (here, Feb 12th-17th, 2020) arrival of huge packs of coyotes. I witnessed this , so those ''coyote experts'' who say this doesn't happen, well maybe it once didn't but it does now. My dog and I have been stalked 3 times now by coyotes. I am trying all I can legally do to protect my 17 1/2 year old jack russell /basset girl. She somewhat resembles the old RCA Victor dog. She's never been a fighter...just a love bug. If you can make out that little picture of her face, you'll see, she has gentle eyes...like a fawn. Coyotes, it's nothing personal, they just are searching for a meal. Hazing...they could care less. A pack of them now live in our state park, the park no longer has raccoons, skunks, rabbits, possums,and more, however, ] one cat has managed to stay alive. He instantly went from 5 years feral to walking 1 foot away along side my dog. It seems he knows he now needs a home. I'm cool with that. He's still not cage ready,but he clearly has chosen me and my dog . I'm hoping I can take him home before the coyotes get him. Look up ''coyotes in midtown''. There have been many postings of coyotes in midtown Sacramento as cats keep disappearing.
@@trialsofavirus8749, often I find myself thinking / saying the same. I'ts a bit sad, yet it's still refreshing when I hear of others who feel the same. Just goes to prove...we're not all gone. lol. Ol' school is great. You hear that a neighbor is moving...(especially an elderly or disabled person), or any person, you don't sit back and wait to see them put out more $$$$$ to hire movers, you offer to help. You see litter (ol' school rarely littered), you clean it up. You own a dog, you train it. These were COMMON courtesies. If a neighbors car needed a jump...no problem. The love's still here babe. I pray you find a like minded friend. I personally put out flyers in an attempt to do just that as ol' common manners, respect, kindness seemed to be getting harder to find. We meet in the park most of the time. I've gotten many refresher courses on playing cards, sewing, scrabble, and even gained a fishing buddy. Yep, I had to post some flyers. Probably was similar to those dating sites, but has been worth taking the chance. I never gave out a phone number or posted my email. I simply stated, thursday's at Freemont park at 7 P.M. weather permitting.
I would never want to torture my dog with one of these devices. If you cannot teach your dog not to bark when not needed than don't own a dog. Simple as that. Dogs bark and humans talk. You don't see humans wearing shock collars.
so helpful
Ya I’m using the e collar ur showing in the video right now don’t regret it just have to know The appropriate way to use it
The appropriate way is chucking it in the bin and trying lots of actual training first.
See, these kinds of videos are full of misinformation which ARE NOT HELPING DOGS. E-collars are amazing tools when used correctly and can improve and even save dog's lives.
For starters, this gyu didn't even use the words correctly.
They're called prongs or electrodes and not probes. A probe is an instrument used for exploration. It's not even the correct term.
It's also called stimulation and not static. Static is electrical current produced through friction. Dogs fur will sometimes have static. The e-collar uses an electrical stimulation at a very low voltage. He says you can't ask the dog what it feels like but everyone who has done ecollar training knows that you have to desensitize and prime the dog starting with the lowest setting which a human can't even feel, until your dog can feel it. So yes, you are testing the level on your dog every time. Some are more and others less sensitive. If you were to instantly go to 35 and your dog freaks out, that's on you.
Just like every tool, correct usage is compulsory in order to avoid accidents. I bet this guy walks his dog on a leash, but a leash could technically be used to choke a dog. Do you choke a dog with your leash? No, because you know how to use it correctly.
Anti-bark collars are not really recommended just like invisible fencing. E-collar training should be done in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. And finally, TOOLS DO NOT REPLACE CONSISTENT TRAINING. You can't just "spot" solve problems like barking up and jumping without going through fully consistent training. That's just lazy, and that's the reason why people shouldn't use e-collars when they don't know what they're doing.
Thankfully a lot of trainers are putting out consistent knowledge about the use of remote collars which is great and can produce happy and well-balanced dogs.
They changed the title too, I have a screenshot for some reason idk why it was probably my bro, it was called “Dog collars that shock, spray and squeal” I think they changed it because the dislikes were double the likes
E collars can save a dog from getting put down
@@nono-ii7or or from getting hit by a car, eating something they're not supposed to, etc.
E-Collars can be a great training tool if you let it be. The problem usually stems from owners who don't take the time to learn how or when to use it properly. We train a lot of hunting retrievers and use E-Collars with all of them throughout their training unless an owner is dead set against it. Usually, after a short conversation to teach them more about the collar and having them feel what the stimuli feels like they are fine with it. The main problem I see here is you also used some of the cheapest and poorly performing collars on the market. With E-Collars it is important to have a well-made product to ensure the consistency of stimulation levels. If it feels like one strength one time you press the button and another way the next time it is useless. The stimulation level most of our dogs use as their standard working level isn't even felt by most people. E-Collars can certainly be used incorrectly and even to the point of abuse. However, when used properly it is one of the best tools in a dog trainer's tool belt, especially when moving into advanced off-leash training at great distances.
Excellent response
people haven't got a clue as to how to use these tools correctly. I am glad to hear that you use an e-collar on your dog. I have been training dogs since 1969.
Im wanting to get a serval cat and instead of making a enclosure for it I want it to have the biggest enclosure possible my entire property im wanting to know would it be ok to have 1 of these collars that would give the smallest shock possible but anuff to make it where it wouldn't go outside my property?
Anybody who thinks these are bad have never owned a difficult dog.
shock collars are stupid just use a vibrating collar i dont want my dog getting shocked like-
My dog barks at any noise outside the front door, as well as literally everybody he sees when we go for walks. Now tell me, what possible alternative can I use besides the static collar…
I think these shouldn't be used for barking tbh. I've never had an issue with my husky since I just talk to him and find out what he wants now he rarely says anything which I miss but I wanna get one if these for when he runs off and thinks I'm tryna play tag when I'm trying to get his leash to avoid him running into traffic
My huskies don't bark at all. But I would definitely consider it if it was a differen't breed that does bark a lot. This would be so useful for running away because they are such escape artist that we had to put up a higher fence and he still climbed it despite being called (usually comes on command unless he's bolting out of the house) and people sent photos of them crossing traffic so it could end up saving their lives.
We need more Cooley.
Remote collars are one of the best inventions that humans have come up with to improve the communication between the pet and the owner. I recommend them 1.000.000 % that you get one to push the boundaries of your training. Remote collars go way beyond behavior suppression. If you are someone who is just going to shock a dog for barking without even trying to figure out what is happening then you simply should not have a dog in the first place. Dogs are not cats, they are not animals that can be by themselves and are independent. They need training, they need boundaries, they need limitations and they rely hard on the owner. A lot of people get a dog and then blame the dog for a certain behavior that is actually being caused but something else the owner is doing. If you don't understand dogs do not get a dog. If you don't know anything about dogs and you also do not want to learn in the process don't get a dog.
My dog barks at everything he is a very protective dog. How do I get him to stop? He is huge
I don’t do choke collars , prong collars and shock collars I think it’s animal abuse you don’t even know what the animals pain they are feeling when you shock them or they choke or strangle on the collars people who think this is okay are nuts they don’t deserve such adorable and sweet loving animals such as dogs.
thanks for watching the video
Of I didn’t have my dog on an E collar I wouldn’t be able to take him for a walk due to his anxiety.
Before I put it on him I put my Hand on the prongs to test it.
I have it on a medium setting.
It’s more of a vibration than a shock. My dog has also gone to an expensive dog training school and that helps a bit
Can Cooley start his own car review channel If CNET wont let him do it anymore? We never got the answer as to if CNET doesnt want him to do them, or if he doesn't want to do them.
fantomtuba I know. I just assumed he got a demotion but he might have got tired of reviewing cars.
I used it to and now my dog is great totally trained she was very bad until I got one
We have a family dog and he only barks when there's people coming to visit. And he only does so for a couple minutes then stops. He's not aggressive whatsoever. But step dad (hate him) got a shock collar bc just even the slightest noise coming from Max bothers him.. He yells at him to shut up and of course Max doesn't respond to that so he went and got a shock collar. Firstly, he put it on him so tight that Max was making weird throaty noises. He mock talks to Max all the time like "Bet you don't wanna bark now huh?" "You know what's coming to you if you bark sucker!" "I'm gonna tighten it more to make sure it stings when you bark" and I just hate it. Max looks miserable with that thing on 24/7. People barely come over to visit so I don't understand why he has to have that collar on so tight all the time. Whenever he's in my room I lock the door and take the collar off. I hate it. And I hate my step dad too.
Dang I feel for you😭. I know dang on well ain't no "step" anything coming to my house and acting like they own my dog.
Have you ever talked to your parent about it?
So sad :(
What a cruel person. Call someone on him. He has no reason to have a dog.
"Why do dogs bark?"
Great journalism right here
I'm thinking about getting one mainly to stop him from hurting critters!!
Same with mine she’s killing chickens that’s why my dog has one
I literally just put it on vibrate and it works just fine 😉
I don’t put the shocking setting
Why did the shock collar go thru my cousin dog neck 😢the dog had two holes in his neck where the collar was
Felt sorry for the dog bc it liked stress before I notice the scars from this collar 🤦🏾♂️
Spraying dogs traumatizes them
My dog goes to daycare and developed a fear of spray bottles whenever i used them at home
Informative! Great topic.
Very useful!
Ecollars are MORE HUMANE than leashes when used correctly. They learn it is a communication tool even on a level you cannot feel. If you want your dog to heel on a leash, typically you are pulling on their throat with a collar. With an ecollar, you are stimulating them with a light sensation that feels like when your hand falls asleep and they instantly know you are communicating with them. The bad thing about ecollars is the people who choose to use it as a punishment. This is unacceptable and harmful to the dog. I am sick of the stigma that people like this create. Your dog will learn at a significantly faster rate and acquire significantly more freedom with the proper use of an ecollar than they ever could with leashes and treats. My dog gets excited every time he sees his ecollar because he knows we are going to do something fun and he can run free. Hiking with an ecollar is LIFE CHANGING. He never breaks heel unless permitted and has perfect recall thanks to this device.
Please tell me if you think I’m wrong so we can talk but dogs should not have shock collar!
I do so... But I lived in a busy n my dog got hit by a car wk ago... They car was going by 20 mph. Thankfully but my ER vet bill was over 2grams n the pain n doctoring him..The sadness in his eyes... I'm thinking bout it seriously.
Wrong
@@olgaporte3361 get the shock collar but use it on yourself first to try it out and see whats good enough for the dog (it doesnt harm them if you just use it when hes off leash) i hope you're okay by now btw (i think vibrations are appropriate)
Unfortunately, you are not going to get accurate voltage readings on a base level multi-meter like that one. Most transmitter controlled e-collars put out several hundred to several thousand volts, not 40 - 90 volts (that low would be equivalent to many TENS units). Some e-collar output profiles are intermittently occurring, alternating-type currents: and others are more along the lines of intermittent direct-current pulses. You'll need a (good) oscilloscope if you want to see the voltage outputs and their corresponding electrical signatures or profiles.
I personaly think shock collars suck. I teached my dog not to attack wildlife and to behave without a shock collar. She is not perfest, but she is close, so if you are unable to control your dog you should not have one.
There's nothing random about the adjustment of shock put through the collar. You start on one and move up, one level at a time, until you get a visible stimuli response from your dog. Your dog will handle much higher than you can. A good collar will have roughly 100-300 levels. My Euro Mountain Shephernese responds at 12. You might have to tick higher, depending on the situation, but mine has sat on 12 since I got it. If you are trying to get a dangerous situation avoided, then you go higher. There's very little reason for you to go above lowest, or just above lowest stimuli response though.
You use tone for a specific reason. You can do it so that if you hit the sound button they're trained to recall, or sit. You can attach sounds to various commands. The collars usually have around 8-20 different sounds.
Vibrate is what I use to let her know she's going to far. A warning. There's several different patterns. This can also be used for non-verbal commands.
I rarely use shock. There's usually no point if you are training your dog. You should research your dog breed, what they're like, what they like, dislike, common behaviors, etc.
I'd love to get one of those to stop my dog from whining and waking me up every morning
Have 3 Lhasa Apso puppies 2 boys and a girl 8 month old boys fight extremely viciously
I am afraid for their safety. Can anyone help with advice?
Have you tried teaching them good behaviour? It may sound silly, but it can work. Do 1 on 1 sessions with them seperately, use or teach them very bacis commands like sit, stay and a command to go away. If you have someone to help, bring them closer to each other in leashes, ask them to sit and reward calm behaviour. Have them approach each other only when they are calm and reward that behaviour as much as you possibly can. Punishing a behaviour based on frustration will *only* make it worse, so like the female trainer also says in the video, try and replace the unwanted behaviour with a desirable one instead.
They want to get in contact, so use that to your advantage and make it happen on your terms. In my experience, animals are much more motivated to do what we ask, when we base the training around a behaviour that they intristically want to show.
If they have associated each other with fighting, you need to turn that association into something positive instead.
Also, consider having at least one of them spayed if the issue continues. But I'd definitely try and train it first :) Good luck!
Get both or one fixed if you already have not. I know that can take away some aggression.
Put them in rice💀
Lots of training experts here 😂
With well behaved dogs, or no dogs...
Well uh yeah
Yes with high electric bills....
I know majority of you all dont agree with me and the way i train my pets..BUT GEE DO I BEE THIS! I have pitbulls guys, and their alot of work, sometimes more then german shepherds. We’ve tried trainers, we’ve tried those whistles, we’ve even tried connecting with them and just trying to see why they dont listen. We do discipline them, (hitting them with a belt) and telling them to go into the cage, but they just dont listen. we had them for a year (there puppies, their mother lives with us, as well as their father.) And now their 1 years old, and i feel that its just as difficult to properly train them now as it was when they were puppies. They always run off, they always break out of their cages, and when they go outside, they ALWAYS run off outside the fences. And the main one who does it is the 2 born of the boys, (His name is Tiger.) He never ever completely listens unless we really yell at him. When we discipline him the belt doesnt work, when he goes into his cage because he’s done something wrong, that doesnt worth either cause he just breaks out!! Just today i had to chase him AND his older brother down because they got out the fence. It’s getting restless doing this on a daily basis. And although some of you may say, “well he’s just a troubled dog.” I find that, that isnt the case. He had a perfect home, a loving family, he’s an inside dog he’s never outside left alone, he has his own cage, as well as his brother, he’s fed, he’s bathed, he goes for walks to the park, he has the perfect home that ANY homeless dog would LOVE. He’s just one of those dogs that need this, and if it doesnt work then i have no clue of what else to do.
treat the dog like your child and love him, then he can love you back and want to listen to you
D F lmao, seems like the best idea till you realize i’m only 15 and don’t have any kids.
"If you punish a dog for behaviour that he is not even doing that can make a dog crazy." Indeed it makes me crazy when dogs baking wake me up in the middle of the night.
My new neighbor brought with them a loud-barking-bluff of a dog, ending two years worth of peace, and quiet. That 🤬 thing need this necklace.
People want ease of training and will resort to barbaric methods. If you are too lazy to train your pet then a pet is not for you. If you wouldn’t use it on your kids then why put it on a dog. Dogs are more precious than people in prison.
The problem is most people use these collars incorrectly, I have 2 English mastiffs and the both went through e-collar training. People use the collar to "punish" the dog and that is improper use. I almost never need to go past the first "lowest" setting. when used properly the collar is used to regain attention and focus and thats it! if you think that you can train the dog by using a remote collar to "curb" unwanted behavior you are sadly mistaken. The shock that it gives is meant to be used as a tap on the shoulder to get the dogs attention so they are focused on you when you give the command. For example if I am walking my dog in the park and he sees another dog and I feel him staring to pull towards the other dog, a quick tap of the button changes his focus back to me and not on the other dog I give the heel command and we are quickly back on our way with no incident. NEVER USE AN E-COLLAR AS PUNISHMENT AND NEVER USE THE E-COLLAR IF THE DOG IS IN AN AGRESSIVE STATE.
Correct ! Most people use these collars incorrectly: taking out frustration and anger at the dog with electric shocks is also a common problem.
I need to do something, as soon as he's alone at home he none stop barks and tears the crap out of my doors and walls. So bad that my neighbor kindly told me he's constantly barking, he's over 200 yards away from my house.
I have a dog that barks constantly when I leave for work. He does fine when I’m home. He’s getting me kicked out of my apartment. What should I do? I need help fast. He’s an older dog who now has to be in a kennel because apartment requires it when I’m gone. Wasn’t used to kennel when I had my house but I lost my house when spouse died. I’ve been feeding him in kennel trying to get him used to it but that hasn’t helped. I don’t want to get kicked out of my next apartment. Help! Fast!
People walking past the house triggers my dogs bark, should i eliminate them?
I was waiting for him to say "and if you push this button, your dog blows up!".
That citronella spray seems cruel; like a bad experience in sephora or something. :/
Ecollar is a training tool that is rarely used for punishment. Can someone tell me, why a well fed dog loves to explore the dish washer every time you open its door? That has one reason and it’s curiosity. Having a super powerful nose in a structure like a modern community has consequences for dogs. Dogs are evolved to live in forests, not our cities. So, they would live according to their instincts if not trained. Ecollar is yet another training tool. The good thing about Ecollar is that the leash is invisible. So, a dog won’t associate the sense of discomfort with its owner. Ecollar if used correctly by a trained professional is a great tool. If every kid around the corner gets their hands on it to “tame their tough dogs”, then that’s a recipe for disaster.
My dog only barks aggressively weather it is a delivery guy or a dog he wants to attack. When he's barking he'll try to bite you if you carry him and won't respond to his name. I can only think of shock collars as an alternative
Please don't, dogs are always going to bark! It's natural. Your dog is probably protective of you. Shock collars are so cruel. Idk why you would want to put your dog in pain when there are many other options for discipline. :(
@@lila8688 I can put it on vibration mode, theres no reason to electrocute him.
What other options of discipline would you recommend me?
@@AdrianCuyubambaDiaz you could buy a dog whistle (or just a normal whistle) and everytime you blow it you can give your dog a treat so everytime he hears that noise he'll be more distracted on getting a treat then other thing. It's much more cheap and safer. :)
@@lila8688 wow! Your deep, insightful musings on dog training are truly inspirational! Keep up the good work. X
I would only put a shock collar on my dog to go to the dog park where he is roaming free. I have an agressive dog breed and id only use it if he snaps and attacks a dog or another human.
I would Never use one of these .
Link to the strong one?
Don’t get a dog!
If you have a lot, and l mean a lot of time, years, go ahead with dog trainers. If you have most commands from sit, down, stay, this will be an awesome tool. I hike, and l protect my dog if she comes in contact with danger, or wants to roll on a carcass. Study the tool. Use it on your own skin, work about a week with a longer leash, watch some great videos on e collars and don’t listen to it’s animal cruelty. It’s not.
my experience with barking dogs is as a pedestrian. i notice dogs bark at anyone or any other dog that passes the house they are confined to. with other dogs it seems obvious they want dog attention. with people i am pretty sure there is a guard tendency. also i think sometimes dogs are frustrated they don't get enough contact. we have a leash law in our town. walking down the street and being barked at is annoying. but living next to a home with a dog barking at you every time you step outside is frustrating. barking affects humans like shocks affect dogs. so my solution is if you live in town, do not own a dog. i used to live in the country and every dog i met that was free roaming, was well behaved if it was owned. packs of wild dogs however are a serious issue. i love pets. however i now look at the wild animals around me and think associating with them is better than "owning" a pet. sometimes however in the country, having a dog is important. even having a cat is important. cats are very good at killing snakes. dogs are good at protecting chickens. someday people in town will see their "need" for a pet is hurting the pet and is a very selfish motivation. i know that sounds harsh for pet owners. if you are thinking about owning think twice please.
"Lots of volts, but minuscule amps"
That's simply not true. Amperage depends on and is proportional to voltage. The reason these things are non-lethal lies behind the fact that the impulse is extremely short, thus very small amount of energy is transferred. Also, the circuit goes from contact to contact rather than through vital organs.
Current will always be equal to the voltage divided by the resistance of the substance it is passing through. Consequently, the higher the voltage, the higher the current as well, there's no other way around it. Since you have no direct control over the resistance of tissue, it is impossible to have high voltage with low current.
Also the voltages measured are just wrong. You can't measure it like that, as the output impedance is very different from when the current passes through skin. Skin resistance is typically said to be between 1-100 kOhms, so a more correct way of estimating the voltage would be to measure the amps through a resistor of, say, 22k and multiply your result by 22000. And I suspect even that will be pretty much off, but way above 20-90V.
Anyways, everybody please just refrain from animal cruelty.
Man I see a lot of comments of people saying they’d get a collar but only use the shock setting in an extreme circumstance. That is definitely the wrong way to use an E-Collar. You can’t just throw in a new stimulus like that while they’re already in an extreme circumstance and expect them to know how to react to it. You have to introduce them to the stimulus so they know how to respond to it. Use the shock setting on low as part of a game they enjoy and use it when they don’t follow the rules correctly. It’s correction, not punishment. They’ll get used to the stimulus correcting the action, and they won’t be afraid of it because it’s part of a game they like playing. They’ll associate the shock with playing the game correctly. A properly trained dog should be excited to see the shock collar come out. It means they get to go do something.
I’m at my wits end. Looking this up because my dog insists on barking at night from 1am till 4. I don’t know what to do. But this just seems wrong.
now i dont know your personal situation with your dog but i would suggest you try and train your dog with positive reinforcement. Look into it, you'll probably find something on youtube.
Headless Roland I totally agree with you but sometimes even the dog grows out of it my husky used to be really bad and night but now he’s wayyy better because he’s a bit older
Give the dog a bath and have them lie next to you at night or use a platform level with the bed.
@@myradulay8346 true, I've noticed that they mellow down with age, but giving your dog praise and a treat when it's being good can't hurt. I feel a lot of people focus too much on punishment and not enough on reward.
Headless Roland 100 percent agree
vibration is probably the best one. annoying but not traumatic for dogs
I just came from that dude who shocks strangers with electric dog collar
Elon got that drip
Can't believe what level humans have gone to betray their best friends
My dog won’t stop f*****g barking, I’ve tried EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING and it’s causing so much stress in the household. I may have to get one of these.