Harley Iron 883 vs 1200 vs 1200 S&S vs 1275 Hammer comparison!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2021
- Harley-Davidson Iron 883 vs 1200 vs 1200 S&S vs 1275 Hammer comparison!
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I honestly don't get the sporty hate. As far as history and Harley goes, it is the most pure bred American V-twin in the harley lineup. Its reliable, and one might even say bulletproof in some cases. This is coming from someone that owns a brand new 2021 Road Glide Special, and I still love my sporty. Ill never sell her. The Sportster is the only fully air cooled model they have currently, it sounds awesome, and its what the "real bikers" road back in the day. My stage 1 sporty 1200 absolutely keeps up with my friends brand new 2021 Low Rider S. I am about to do the 120HP hammer kit to my sporty soon and I cant wait to destroy baggers on the daily. Sportsters will be cool forever!!!
10000% agree. My 05 Roadster (hotter cams and heads from the factory) holds its own against my buddies 120whp Road glide. I mean its a beautiful bike don't get me wrong but I can rip the twisties, and I bought my bike 10 years ago for the amount he put into his motor alone...
Cost/performance it is an absolute bargain, at least in the Harley world.
My brother is getting an 883.
I ride a ‘98 Springer with an 80ci carbed Evo. I love her with all my heart.
When I told him that he would probably smoke me on speed he didn’t believe me just because my bike has a 1337cc displacement. I just pointed out that his bike weighs a lot less, and HE weighs a lot less.
My brother learned about Power to Weight ratios the other day.
Sportster isn't the only oil/air cooled model.. my 2021 street bob is.. all 1868ccs
@@zerathian2291 No, that is incorrect. Your bike is oil cooled, and has an oil cooler in between the down tubes.
I guess the Sportster doesn't use oil then..
I bought my first ever bike about a month ago!! It's a 1200 Nightster. I've been learning to ride. Can't wait to get on the road!
Great bike!
I have been having a fantastic time riding the hooligan. Love it man. But it seems like it rains more than the sun shines. Rain for the next 3 days but sunny for a few days after that.
CONGRATS Lloyd!!
I'm a little jealous. Congratulations.
😮 nice congrats
Lloyd, will you be posting videos of it to your channel? Would like to see a follow up!
Congrats Lloyd
Drags and forwards feels like being on a rowing machine
As an Iron (883 < 1200) owner, I really commend the cc change in order to enter high ways and long trips I did a trip from Guatemala to Panama on my Iron and the change to 1200 kit was a plus. It was a beautiful trip and I'm so proud of my Harley Davidson crossing "Las Americas" like a king, my Iron never failed, never stopped. 😎✌️
Really glad to hear that. I'm about to buy an 05 883 with the 1200 screamin eagle package. It makes me feel really good to hear such a positive story about these things.
Do you do anything with final drive sprocket ratio or is the rpm on long trips not bad?
@@mulltiprosnow with the 1200 kit 70mph is about 3k, 80 is about 4k. It's... fine. Well, more like "good enough".
can't wait to do a cam switch on my sporty. wish I could do a 1275 kit , but the way my account is set up... definitely loving the feedback and seeing all these sporty's.
Great video Mr. Head.
Always fun to ride someone else’s bike just to see all the customizing that you didn’t do on your own! Haha.
I’ve commented before that I buy used bikes because they pick me. Someone has already done things I would have done and started the project for me.
Great job as usual, hope you are enjoying the new career!!!!
Pete
god bless Blockhead - I have been waiting for someone to do this comparison so I can shop for engine upgrades for my 883. Thanks man!
Bang for your buck consider some Buell heads, especially if your bike is pre-06. Erik is one hell of an engineer and his heads are incredible
I have the basic 1275 hammer kit in my garage next to my bike. I've only had it a week, plan on starting my install next weekend. Been busy but I cannot wait. I been riding my stage 1 1200C. It's very fun
this channel has definitely reignited my love for riding thanks for the great content
Not that anyone asked. But I love Sporties, so i must share mine.
My Iron 1200 named "American Sports" with the red/white/blue AMF design has:
Stage I- Bassani Radial Sweepers, Kuryakyn Hypercharger ES, FP3 tune
Screamin' Eagle Performance Clutch (future proofing for upcoming Stage II cams)
Legends Revo 13" shocks
"More Forward" Mid controls. (perfect in-between for mids and forwards, I'm 6' and love it)
Kuryakyn adjustable levers (made the performance clutch easier to pull in)
Saddleman Step up seat with red stitch
Memphis Shades Cafe fairing (looks better and blocks more wind than stock fairing)
Red base LED headlight (lights are white, body of headlight red)
LED signals with smoked lenses.
Sissy Bar
Red foot pegs, clutch peg.
Red bolt hardware.
I've put so much work in the bike, everything done myself (nothing has been difficult). But I love the Irons, man. Love how customaziable it is and I love how easy it is to whip it around down town city riding.
Note: The memphis shades cafe fairing blocks a noticeable amount of more wind than the original fairing. Makes hopping on the hwy a lot easier. Before I hated going over 75 mph for any amount of time, I'd just get beat up. But the memphis shades cafe fairing, I can go 90 before feeling I'm getting beat up after.
Captiana, just hammers it coming out of the park 😂on the OG. That was the coolest part of the vlog. Happy belated birthday to Laurel
To the top! Haha
Great video and very informative, I like how everyone rode each bike then commented on it, just like how car magazines do it. The Sportster was always cool and I always loved Harley for their look and sound (except the touring bikes)
Really cool seeing the comparison between different sportster! That OG though. That thing just looks sick!!
How could I miss that video for so so long! Thanks for your work and efforts you put in.
Hadn't watched the channel in a long time, saw this in my feed today.
Holy cow man you've definitely done a lot with the OG. I wouldn't have recognized it.
Very well done. Comprehensive. And fun to watch. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Yo Blockhead, I have been riding for 55 years I have never owned a Sportster I have always appreciated the simplistic look of the Motorsickle. I have ridden many, each time was it an uncomfortable experience like riding a fence rail. I am anxious to demo the new Sportster S with the Revolution Max engine. You Meet the Nicest People on a Honda Valkyrie. Keep the Shiny Side Up.
Hey Gerald! I don't want to meet 'nice people'... I just want a cool bike !
Riding cool bikes with cool friends. Nice video man.
My boy just bought a Sportster 883 that he wants to put apes and forward controls on. I will send him this video, it should help him decide how to custom his bike. Thanks for sharing!
I prefer mid controls. Had a Sportster with forwards and that was the thing I hated the most. I am 6' tall too. I like the 1275, but just couldn't justify spending that much.
Ahh man this video is SO bad ass!!! Keep up the good work!!
Nothing like a 1275 Hammer..Blockhead..good job. You can squeeze 130 horses..Trust me..and above..the clutch is stiff as a 2×4....We need a 6 speed..better fuel mileage..Mines been to Arizona and Ohio..lots of passing power. I run 4" Cobra neighbor haters..Awesome..good job.
I've been searching for a video of this through and through RUclips and thank God I already subscribed to you channel and then I got recommendation when I was watched some riding video with stage 4 for sportsters. Thank you Mr.blockhead
FU Sportster vs goldzilla would be a hoot 🤙great video as always my dude 👌
The OG is 120 hrsprs, we had this discussion in the comments, the paint job adds 9 hrsprs. Stop misleading people Block 🙄
Installed Burly easy pull clutch thingy. Made quite a difference.
Just found you guys and love the content already. I have a 96 sporty with 100 HP 1250 hammer kit and love the reliability of the whole bike.
how is highway cruising with it? what rpm does it sit at doing 70mph?
I’m loving my ‘21 883 but I know I’m going to do the conversion someday.
Love your channel
Do it yet ?
Are the Hammer kits srill available?
I love this!! Great job!
Love the old school with the hammer! Beautiful bike! OG fits it!
wOw ! .... now that is a beautiful garage ! Maybe a bit of a hassle to move them around to ride the one on the front row... but what a nice problem to have! I own two; one of which is a H-DTrike so I have to clear the garage to ride the trike .... but like I said ... its a nice problem to have. I rode a 1976 900CC Sportster from my home in TEXAS to Colorado when I was a young man. I have not wanted to ride a Sportster since that trip.(hahaha)... I enjoyed the "builds" and todays opinions .... THANKs for Sharing !!! Was Zuko down for his nap ??
Drag bars and rearsets on my 1200c. I had forwards before, and have ridden sporties with mids(and you're right- squatty potty), but the rearsets are so much more comfortable, for me anyway.
My 2002 Orange and Black 883r is getting this conversion as we speak. I've had sportbikes all my life since age 17, best bike I've ever ridden is the Sportster.
Happy Birthday Laurel !!!
Need to get CaptainAna the 1200 kit and do a before and after video with her thoughts. 👍
already looking into it! haha
@@CaptainAna will be awesome! Can’t wait to see you taking out block and bagger bro 😂😂😂
@@CaptainAna did you do it yet?
Great video Block thanks 😊
Love this video really helps because I’m looking to get a sportster as my first bike
Love my '99 883. Put viking bags and eagle lights leds all around. Not done yet, but it's so much fun to ride. Now the question is which big bore kit to do when I get that money saved up. Oh and I'm 6'4". Think bars are next tho for a more comfortable position.
Anna's set up with the addition of crash bars BUT The Hammer kit.
Haha. Glad you clarified the other sportster in the garage. I was like wait..what..ohhhh. 😂
I have an 02 883 and I plan to put the S&S 1200 hooligan in it. Can't wait
@blockhead hey man! Love your channel and everything you’re doing. Just curious, is that the crooked can brewery in Winter Garden you’re at?
If you may, I have a 2013 sports 1200c, with stock pipes, would love to have you tell me a good deep sound ing pipes I should look for , somewhere around some shorts shots thanking you in advance
Meanwhile, im just trying to get my 77 ironhead on the road, hoping itll be reliable.
On the 1275 hammer big bore, do you have a heating issue? Heard they tend to run really warm, if not careful could having over heating issues
Blockhead now only give answers for his own shop, answers about Sportsters we don't see anymore, unfortunately
Not sure if you ever did a price breakdown but what was cost for the hammer and the hooligan kits with everything you put into it?
Dude no freaking way I was just looking for a video like this
Only been riding for a couple of months my 883 '16 but I love it each day even more.
Maybe I'll updated more towards the OG, power wise. But for now I'm focused on how it looks and what it needs upgraded (saddlebags, seat, light, etc)
Can you please rank the clutch lever pull stiffness for each of those?
as in 1 is lightest (like Pan America / Sportster S)
and 5 is like the new m8 softail
and 10 is stiff as f**k
Currently own a 2006 Victory Hammer 100ci Stage 1 80hp 103tq. Looking at a 2007 CVO Dyno with a ProCharger. I'd love to see the dyno on that bike. Had a 2004 Buell XB12R 103hp 84tq atw.
Great video!
Looking for som help and advise. I love this video, Im looking at buying my first HD and the thought that you can build the iron 883 up as time goes on is encouraging. Im 6ft tall 200lbs and ive got buddies that tell me the bike is too small for me. Of course they all have baggers and low riders. I am curious tho, i know stock the 883 will be stuck in the rear and cant keep up with the big boys. But im looking for cost/performance comparison for a 883 kitted with either a 1200 s&s or a 1250 kit vs a stock sportster 1200. Any help, guidance and knowledge is appreciated im a baller on a budget and usually build my projects over time.
A sportster isn't a small bike, it's just small compared to some of the Harley behemoths out there. Just go with the 1200 upgrade first. Some decent flat top pistons will work with whatever cam/head you go with down the road. The best way to go while building and riding is the 883-1200, then consider heads, cams, and ignition as a package. You may find that just going 883-1200 with a higher compression piston is plenty for you, they honestly run great set up just like that.
how much was it to put the full stage 4 kit on it?
That red and black is smoking 👍🏽
What do you use for a headset to talk to eachother?
Great video 👍
Great video. I found your website after seeing Shadetree talking about you .
Did you film this in viera fl?
Delicious sportster content!
Both the 883s are firggin Stunning Gorgeous Bikes! Great design...
any leads on any predator 3 seat or a saddleman step up for a road king
Did you all start out your ride in Florida? Looks like Louisiana.
Did you change the rear coil ignition if so what too.
I am wondering what the difference would be between a stock 1200 and an 883 with the big bore???
I have one it's a big difference,I be heard it's like riding a crouch rocket...lol it will try to dump you off at take off.its that fast
@@fftheblueskys coulsnt you just adjust the gearing?
just a difference in sprocket size, easy enough to adjust either direction, and probably compression ratio, but a stock 1200 vs a standard catalog conversion isn't much different
7 bikes in the garage…….life goals!!!
All it takes is not being afraid of work! 🤘🏼
Happy birthday Laurel!
Sportsters came from the 45" flathead racers that dominated for decades.
Im curious whats going on with the blue cruiser bike that was closest to you at the end of the video in the garage. So many bikes! I wish i had a garage haha.
I think it's a family member of his (maybe his brother) but I could be way off.
Man, been looking for another 1200 to cafe. Ivr been finding a whole butt ton of 883's for cheap cheap... very tempted to be down another week or 2, get an 883 and just big bore it.
Great video thx
ANNA! Do you like the vented windshield on the road warrior? I'm thinking about picking it up!
I do! I have a 13" and a 15" and both are vented!
@@CaptainAna have you rode with one that wasn't vented? If so, does the vented help with any buffeting?
I have a 2017 Roadster(XL1200CX) with a stage 4 and Bassani 2 to 1 road rage pipes. It goes.
The higher bars and the forward controls are for me.
I'm trying to get my new Honda in that direction, but the after-market hasn't caught up to the new Rebel 1100DCT yet. I really like Aaron's bike.
took me solid like 1-2 mins to realise the hat Aaron was wearing was RSSV and not Ass V.
😂
this is the first Blockhead video ive ever watched and didnt subscribe then but since subscribing this came back up.. thought that was funny..
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Don't like dragbars,would like a Sportster like the FK You Sportster but with mini apes or Z bars
Now you gotta drag race the OG vs Goldzilla to see the stack up 😎
Lol, Goldzilla all day 🦖
Nice comparison
Thanks!
Happy birthday Laurel
When’s the 1450cc sportster coming in
If clutch weight is an issue, why not go hydro :)
Where did you find forward controls that works with 2 into 1 exhaust?
Standard forwards from H-D. Exhaust is D&D
Factory forwards work with almost all exhaust
The red bike looks nice. Don’t care for the rest. But glad everyone likes theirs.
Now ready for a bagger addition! Lets put on the mileage! 103 107 114?
What bars were on the 883
We need a side by side pull of all them
now puting a turbo on the FU OG !!!!!!!
old video but I had a 48' with forward controls and drag bars and wasnt a fan. I'm 5'10 and just felt awkard. Same bars on mid controls is great. Or forward controls with high bars was great, nbut the combo of low bars and feet forward felt off
Man if I had the money I want to buy the 1200
My biggest doubt in this planet is should I buy the s and s or should I buy hammer performance for a 1200custom , i am from India, suppose as you say if we buy the s and s and something happens to any part of the engine what will I do , I mean in terms of a warranty or replacement of a part.? It would be so good if an expert as yourself would give an idea.
Half the links for that 883 giveaway are dead
Riding bikes and cold snacks….no better day
I wanna dub the OG as "Bloody Barron"
Forgot about the Sucker Punch ❤️💜
not a big fan of the tank being raised. just seems to ruin the lines of the bike. love the color of the bike for sure.
I am doing the 1275 with my new 2020 883
I love my 07 custom 1200..would not change anything
My favourite bike red one😍😍
did you upgrade the breaks on the 1275?
Not yet 😅
@@BlockheadMoto lol does it feel like you need to?
@@miguelleon9106 it would definitely be beneficial, lol
@@BlockheadMoto lol right on
Holy shittt that bike took off