Just to clarify something. I know Kamala Khan was not REALLY the first Muslim superhero. I guess I didn't sound sarcastic enough when saying it lol. A trend among SJWs and SJW Marvel is to celebrate that their favorite new character, show, or series is the "First X" even when it isn't true. Just like they did when they called Black Panther the first black superhero movie despite Blade (now apparently changed to a horror movie) and Steel (guess they just forgot about that one) existing. That's why I used a picture of an article that says they were claiming Kamala was the first (and partly to prove that, yes, they were actually spinning that narrative) and then later state she was being "PUSHED" as the first Muslim superhero. Hope this helps.
That's the misalignment that Ms. Marvel has; the superpowers bring out the qualities of the character already present. What is Kahn gonna do, be more entitled and selfish and, dare I say, Muslim with her powers?
As F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, "Action is character." That means a character is defined not by what we're told about them, but by what they do. The writers of Miss Marvel forgot that. We like Daredevil because he _does_ heroic things; he _earns_ his heroic status through personal struggles, overcoming obstacles, and making sacrifices. On the other hand, we're just supposed to like Miss Marvel because she's an oppressed minority and we're racist if we don't, and we're supposed to accept that she just somehow deserves to have her superpowers because she's just so damn special and you're upholding the white supremacist patriarchy if you disagree.
The answer to the riddle is "sacrifice." The more I die the more they gain. The more I give up, the better off they will be. Through blood or tears and awful pain, I'm loved and lost or tossed away. It is through HARD work and even death that my sacrifice let's others to live or a lie of my personal character that allows other to live comfortably. (Think Nolan Batman.) For power, for love, or a brighter day. Reasons to sacrifice who and what you are or what you own for the sake of power, love, or a brighter future.
Ms marvel was not the first Muslim superhero, not even close, the first was Kismet 'the man of fate' in 1941, the book had a hilarious in hindsight name and was well written for the time, marvel's first was Arabian Knight, she isn't even the first female Muslim superhero, Sand from X Men has her beat by nearly a decade, she isn't even the first Muslim legacy superhero since Simon Baz the current green lantern on justice league debuted months before her, she was old hat straight off the presses so we can't even give her such destinations of first or innovative.
I know lol. I was pointing out that SJWs love to push their works as "firsts." That's why I used the article. Kind of like when they pushed Black Panther as the first black superhero movie and so pushed Blade off as a horror movie and forgot about Steel.
There was even Excalibur in the Captain Britain and MI:13 books that handled a very overt islamic hero way better than Kamala was handled, who also preceded her by close to 8-10 years
A lot of women prefer 'slice of life' stories and that's exactly what the genre in Ms. Marvel is. It's a genre regularly seen in manga and like you mentioned, young adult drama/sitcoms and you're right, it doesn't work for a superhero comic. Anyways, absolutely brilliant side by side analysis!
Most hero manga stories follow the same basic formula of thrusting you into the action then adding background to the characters. In the majority of them the characters grow as individuals and even the self-absorbed ones have some level of selflessness. The ones that don't are called drama...
Mob Psycho 100, kid just wants to better himself independent of his super powers. With actual character growth both in main and side characters. With plenty of action and world saving. That's how you do it right. But the message is very anti SJW, don't blame society for your problems, you can fix yourself.
Yes. Marvel and DC used to do occasional "a day in the life of" stories, but they were one issue out of 30--a nice change of pace, not the main thrust. I agree completely that women generally expect something much different from their drama than men do. They want that "filler" in between the action scenes. It's where the "meat" of the story exists for them. But men want less filler and more action. The action/adventure is the "meat" of the story for them. That's one of the big problems with all these feminist books. They keep losing male readers not out of hate or any of that garbage, but out of BOREDOM.
Old school heroes had to sacrifice to show worthiness because back in the day, we all knew what happens when a self-absorbed, narcissistic person gets power - they become a full-on sociopath.
This is such an underrated comment. There are multiple villian origin stories I can think of that play out almost exactly like many nu-marvel hero's origin stories.
With you but standards are really high now. Jane Foster as Thor literally dies, reversing her cancer treatment to protect people and it wasn't good enough to satisfy a bunch of the #comicsgate people here. Idk
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d Because Jane Foster is Jane Foster, while Thor is Thor. We did the "female Thor" thing once already, and look how it turned out. Because Thor Odinson is Thor, not Jane Foster or anybody else.
@@immikeurnot What you're saying doesn't make sense. It's the equivalent of someone looking at the original and saying "Thor is Thor. Not Donald Blake!"
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d The Donald Blake Thor annoyed me as well but that's just taking a good fun character and hobbling him for no reason, that being said Thor was always a cameo character for me I never read his comics but the cripple doc took up valuable pages that could have gone to my green goliath or the blond jock getting punched in the face. I can understand why some would like that variant but I didn't. The only female Asgardian that was needed was Valkyrie, Jane Foster Thor was redundant, Valkyrie was awesome and she was one of Hulk's best and most loyal friends. It would have been great if Defenders era Valkyrie was still around during World Breaker, there would have been no need to create Sentry though and he is rather interesting, but if I recall she was replaced somewhere in the 80s or 90s I think.
Recently watched episodes 4 and 5 for the first time in many years. Forgot how truly awesome they were. The disappointment in the sequels in particular is so warranted.
get used to it, Disney is amping up the diversity in all of its properties going forward...or at least until they start losing enough money that these shills get fired....after all it is just a corporation run by share holders
@@tacoespacial9443 Actually it depends. Some parts of Turkey are very conservative and when I went there people dressed more "islamically" then in the country I reside in which is the UAE. If we're talking about laws , yes Turkey is the most secular Muslim country however I'd say that doesn't mean the average Turk is secular per se.
-be a modern age Christian kid with no ambition -sees "deus vult" comment -looks up deus vult on RUclips -clicks on deus vult meme compilation ...5 hours later... -searches amazon for a long sword and knight helmet.
That comic is so ironic to be laughable. Hero's overcome adversity in the face of their own challenges/shortcomings. Her biggest adversity is her own religion. That's not very pro Muslim lmao.
You could work with that, but the setup is poorly done & there's no follow through. Just like being an immature teenager is a good flaw to overcome, but there's nothing there for the reader to think that's coming. Good writing overcomes average, & even poor, origins. Poor writing kills any story.
I didn’t know this much about daredevil’s origin story before this video. What I really like about it is that his behavior is very Christian. He puts his father’s will above his own? He suffers persecution because of it but endures? He sacrifices himself for another? That’s practically the textbook ideal Christian, but written in a believable way and without yet explicitly stating his religion. Another contrast between Daredevil and new Ms. Marvel is that the Daredevil comic shows Daredevil’s religion through his actions, but the Ms. Marvel comic just talks about Ms. Marvel’s religion without her doing anything to show it. And as they say, show, don’t tell.
Quite true. What SJW Marvel doesn't know is that pushing a label doesn't work. When you try to give the audience a gay character, or a woman character, or a trans character...you don't get someone who's well-rounded. You don't get a character at all. You get a stereotype. If they wanted to make a Muslim hero...they shouldn't have given us a Muslim. They should have given us a hero that shows us the noble aspects of Islam.
Ugh please dont drag your fictional christian ideals into this. Clearly you dk christianity that well since its ideals are really about incest, baby killing, murder and slavery.
An hero has to save even people he dont like. Early there was the comparision with Kahn/Midoriya where in his introduction, Midoriya DID rescue his bully from a real murderous super villain.
When SJW insert themselves in the story, the main character becomes selfish, entitled, spoiled and over dramatic brat making them unlikable. Excellent compression choice using Daredevil (a real hero).
ok so Kamala's origin story is that she became a super hero because she liked super heroes, so the super heroes she liked appeared to her in a vision and said "Hey wanna be a super hero?". Wow, very deep story telling
I think it would be pretty cool if little by little, she became disillusioned and angry at what the superhero career wasn’t; what it made you do and what you couldn’t do. Start arguing with other, but more zealous minded heroes, and slowly finding how to keep her love of heroing, but also keep her life.
Deku has the same origin concept of “I love superheroes so I wanna be one” and handed power to him. However, he is very dedicated to being self-sacrificing to the point where he breaks his limbs to save others. In contrast to him, I don’t think ms. marvel fangirling over superheroes has taught her anything about self-sacrifice.
I think another good comparison is with Spiderman. Like Ms Marvel, Peter Parker got his powers suddenly without effort. He becomes an entitled jerk thinking only of himself and lets a thief go because there's nothing in it for him. By the end of the very first issue, Spiderman gets slammed hard by the consequences of his action or rather his inaction when he learns the thief [spoiler!] killed his beloved Uncle Ben. Spiderman completely changes by the end of the issue and you understand his motivation to be a hero from then on with his uncle's words ringing in his ears. In just 12 pages a much better character arc was created - a wallflower bullied by peers, gets superpowers, becomes a fame-seeking jerk, learns a harsh lesson in responsibility, and becomes a true hero. Ms. Marvel completely misses that in her first issue. Despite being muslim, there is very little difference between her and any other teen girl who has strict parents. "Girls just wanna have fun and oh, hey! I have superpowers now!"
Frankly what I've seen of Ms Marvel makes me angry - oversimplistic, patronising (why yes, because white, blonde non-Muslims can only be ignorant bigots and never people who want to reach out yet suck at it) and she doesn't become a super hero because she wants to help people; she just wants to be fawned over. The fanfiction part is also tacky in a universe where super heroes are real. If Samaa Amanat even liked superhero stories, she'd be AWARE of this.
Another point... that Kamala turns into blonde Ms Marvel at the end - this winds me up because it plays into the learned helplessness behind the current talk about representation - that "oh no, minorities can't have heroes to look up to who LOOK like them, how AWFUL!! :'(" It honestly looks as if the crucial point, creating a HERO who is also a Muslim girl in America, didn't matter at all - just the desire to do superficial box ticking and give her her a comic and her current hype on a silver platter just for being a non-White Muslim girl. This is ironically a slap in the face of Muslim readers who read Marvel for the HEROES who face CONFLICT and POWERFUL VILLAINS. My understanding is Kamala doesn't even get any strong opponents who challenge her throughout her series, ever. She's just a vanity project for Samaa and G Willow Wilson.
Suprised you didn't bring up spiderman for a comparison Peter parker was immature and acted like a jerk when he got his powers, until uncle ben died and he decided to become spiderman
Spiderman was so close to becoming a super villain... Super smart, ostracized, gets super powers... But it makes sense he doesn't, his uncle's death changes him. New superheroes feel like they should all be villains. They have no strong motif to be good, and if you have great power and no reason to be good, history teaches us you're very likely to become very bad.
@@LiteratureDevil he did even consider robbing a bank in the first ASM issue to help Aunt May Hard to look back now, but that's how conflicted Peter life is.
On my birthday (Dec. 40, woooo) I was innocently browsing Twitter when I was accosted by a tweet from "MARVEL Entertainment" that said: "People have been trying and failing to create the next Spider-Man since 1968 but in 2014 they did just that with MS. MARVEL" and all the comments were comments kissing ass and tonguing butthole, basically agreeing 100% and I died inside wondering who these people are. Whenever someone commented to disagree the replies were like how dare u YOURE PROBABLY A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE. I CANT WITH THIS. How could they say Kamala Khan is the new Peter Parker with a straight face? It's obviously an agenda of some kind OR the world has gone sjw INSANE. Bunch of PC thugs. I don't want to say what I am cos I love the anonymity of the internet and I will always prefer not identifying what I am in order to validate any opinion I have but I hate sjwnpc marvel with a passion. As a native american/irish female in my late late 20's I should, according to everyone else, be eating this garbage up. But I'm not and I never will and will always support super hero comics the way they were and should be: free from PC SJW NPC identity politics. (Also I know this sounds like one of those cringy r/notlikeothergirls OTHER GIRLS: uwu omg I love makeup and lattes mebut not me: -something "quirky" and unusual but not really at all because every one knows people are individuals with their own tastes etc.-) Sorry. I was just rambling and trying to make a point. Ugh. I might delete this
I've got to admit @omri gany that would be a fascinating setup. The Crusades are generally seen as some of the worst behavior to come out of Christianity/Catholicism. To have someone gain power from that and need to represent the good in it's source without denying that evil came about from it as well, in the modern world would be potentially very interesting. Especially if the (apparent) source of that power was a divine visitation. Few (in universe) would believe that God would intervene to hand power to someone for any reason. Especially if the power granted wasn't spectacular. (Think more Captain America than Thor in terms of power and ability type) How many people are willing to follow a good leader, even if they don't necessarily like what that leader can be seen to represent? Even if that leader is truly heroic, leading from the front and relentlessly doing good where and as they can? Have said power granted to someone who isn't very openly devout, who won't trust the message was true, and you have an internal reflection of that external conflict. A solid contrasting villain would be an utterly immoral crook, someone convinced that all 'gods' are just powerful and clever beings and nothing divine. (if your in Marvel, have the villain point to Thor and the Asguardians as 'proof') Someone convinced that the nature of people is pure selfishness and all else is sophistry, the 'behind the scenes' mob boss of a villain. One that never fights personally, never risks themselves, but easily 'sacrifices' others. (Deliberate misuse of that term here) Where our protagonist is the inverse. Heck for maximum mirroring, have the chief minion to the villain in your opening story sport powers on par with the protagonist and be thrown under the proverbial bus so the villain escapes. Then use that former villain as the protagonists support. I'm picturing someone with super powers, but weak enough ones (think D-list tier) they simply can't get anywhere on their own. Suckered by the glitz and glory of being a villain (presumably had a small criminal record beforehand so going heroic didn't appeal.) only to find out the reality about the wages of sin. Seeing someone no stronger than he is (in the grand scheme) care about him where his 'boss' didn't would be enough if an offer was made to turn coat. Plus this gives you someone with street smarts on the protagonist's side. I think it could solidly work out with a decent writer and artist.
I dislike the trend towards men being portrayed as dumb, arrogant, evil or all three at the same time. It's unfair and sexist. I have no interest in giving my money to see if film about a bunch of heroic perfect women defeat yet another group of hapless males. I think the seed was planted with Frozen and it was brought to full maturity with the Last Jedi.
@ShaddowSabbath Nope. I'm expressing my opinion how the movies suck and saying I'm not going to spend money on them. And what's different is that I'm not taking over a popular existing franchise and completely destroying it. Your point is completely invalid as a result.
@@hiroshima9120 We *already* did. And we had a multi *billion* dollar franchise going. And it had strong female characters. 40 years ago. And then we did it *again* over the last decade. And then some asshats got power over those franchises and instead of creating their own franchise they ruined the ones I was enjoying spending money on. And they were *both* a damn sight more balanced than the garbage these new people are putting out. And many of us are calling them on it. And we've stopped spending our money on it. I haven't seen Solo - didn't spend a dime on it. I haven't seen Captain Marvel- didnt' spend a dime on it. And I'm probably not going to see more than 25% of phase 4 products for the MCU because it's obvious they are going to turn out a bunch of poor quality product that's off brand from what they made for the last decade.
@@macmcleod1188 its alright, the world is starting to realize and by the world i mean the people who run it "corporations" that sjw 's are not to be pandered to. soon they'll be this generations version of emo or goth and eventually phase out, or be accepted and ignored. i mean we're humans we react in two ways when something is presented for a long enough time first in the beginning we react heavily then in the long run we either tune it out or get aggressively violent to the point where it "being the object or ideology" goes extinct from pressure. disbands or chooses another cause or goal.
We don't want "diversity AND merit." We want merit. Only merit. No consideration of diversity at all: considering merit and only merit. No matter what the resulting demographic makeup of the writers and artists turns out to be.
wait...you don't want that one token schizophrenic asian dude with parkinsons disease being included in the emergency room to operate on you after a near fatal accident?
Actually diversity is important as well. Even best story, told 1000 times would become boring. Keep discovering realms of society and imagination thats never being touched before and turn them into good story is a very important aspect of literature.
*Benjamin McLean* how about this, we create a character who is apart of a minority, but we don’t push the SJW agenda and focus the hero’s story instead of their ethnicity or sexuality (or anything related). Diversity is supposed to push that these people exist and they are like everyone else in society, to stop unjust prejudice. But that idea has become more twisted over the years, as more people believe that certain minorities are superior than the majority, and anyone who is against that philosophy is pure evil.
@@bilibiliism Identity alone isn't what makes a character compelling whatsoever. If you want to promote ethnic diversity, first do so by also writing a interesting story towards said character.
You know, this kinda makes me want to see how you'd compare SJW comics to other characters that are accused of being boring, overpowered, or having plot armor
Myst Erious Lee Well yeah. You can’t compare apples and oranges. They’re two different things. Comparing two apples would actually be a valid comparison.
The Knights of the Teutonic Order. They ran out eventually so they turned on Christianity. Specifically Poland. Then Poland went off to fill the gap in the Market created when the Teutonic Order left the crusades... Have a nice day.
Daredevil is awesome and there are a lot of stories where he goes above and beyond to help people but he isn't just a saint because there have been times where he's fallen HARD either through fault of the villain or his own personality issues that ended up fucking him. Either way, he is an awesome hero who has loved and lost, won and sacrificed, failed and redeemed himself plenty of times.
I’m a minority and I’m with Comicsgate all the way. This forced diversity is horseshit and the content suffers because they include the SJW values for the sake of it.
The fact that Daredevil is Christian is just a bonus to me, as a Christian, because he's such a great superhero. I don't even think of that as the first point in his favor. I'm a huge fan of the heroes who don't have devastating powers by birth or whatever strange coincidence, I mean, Peter Parker got his powers by accident, but still had to work to make them effective, and he encountered said accident (depending on the version you're looking at) by doing other types of work. Your insights are awesome and I love that they come from a writing perspective.
@@davidhaaijema4521 since the video is about SJW related preaching in comics you'd think you could suss out my point from the context of the video but I'll explain it in more detail. No one wants to be preached to over SJW related topics. Church is a uplifting event where a believer goes to hear the word of his/her God. I guess people who go to church and don't believe wouldn't like it but then again why would they go in the first place?
@@lars1701again Think real hard, what do SJW's do as well ? O right blur our one-liners that make no sense. "be careful when hunting monsters you do not become a monster, for when you stare long enough into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you", Friedrich Nietschze. If you think SJW's are so bad, I suggest reading actual OG Classical Liberal works instead of resorting to one-liners and reactionary attitudes. Also Church is uplifting ? "Slay the heathen where ever you might find him!", Church until like 19th century..... Also do I have to remind you how politics use to go including that Church that was so uplifting and "free to go to" ? Geezus "Look look! i'm going to fight identity politics with my own identity politics by virtue signalling with stupid one liners how bad identity politics is" < you in a nutshell.
I've been researching comicsgate for weeks and I've seen alot of crazy stuff, this was by far the best explanation of what's wrong with comics today and pop culture. This was So eye opening. Thank you. I'll be watching all 4 parts Tonite.
Now, let's compare Kamala Khan ( supposed hero ) in her series to Dr. Doom/Infamous Iron Man ( villain seeking to change ) . Kamala in her first issue is nothing more than telling the audience how muslim she is. In Doom's first issue, he saves Maria Hill from being killed and saves two boys from being killed by a robot.
Only one criticism: you probably should take story not from 60s. (just to be clear - rest of essay is great) Silver age comics have very condensed fast pace. Modern comic pace is "movie-like" (around 5-15 min of screen time for page). Story from 80s-90s would be better example. It's truly amazing how much story, characters' background and general info they managed to cram into 22-25 page comic with 2-3 action scenes without breaking that "movie-like" pace. That's what I, personally, miss in current comics.
If that is so, not having enough personal comics experience, if anything the fact that the 60s stuff isn't even Marvel comic artistry at its peak resoundingly trumping the agenda driven swivel offered in the current year makes it even better.
@@somebody5702 True. But still it's a li'l bit unfair to say that Silver Age comic managed to say more in less pages. It's like saying: "Original fairy tale was only couple paragraphs long. Why do we need 2 hours of cartoon/movie adaptation?" Difference in way of telling story. That's all. And old comics were VERY different in this.
@@somebody5702 For some excellent 90s Marvel (or DC) comics I highly recommend DAREDEVIL:YELLOW by the fabulous team Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale, also including Daredevil's origin story or, if you think you can handle it, the Batman graphic novel Arkham Asylum by Grant Morisson and Dave McKean, which is very dark and artsy.
I don't know. The fact that a current comic has less story with more pages seems pretty bad to me. I've been on the manga train for years now and the amount of story that even the weekly works put out makes this look shameful, especially since a lot of current Western comics seemed to be poorly imitating them.
Stories based on identity and a caricature of the "white" culture seem stunted compared to variations on the themes of ancient mythology and age old archetypes and tackling the universal human story through tales of the heros and gods. Was gilgamesh a white dude? I honestly don't know. How about Enkidu? Those stories move beyond the mere physical plane and get into metaphysics. and the human struggle with primal forces. The SJW stories are lame and demeaning to their characters and honestly just troll a caricature of "white people". The SJW identity struggle story is totally hackneyed. How many versions of it have been in movies and TV shows over the years? The same is true of the woman's struggle in the man's world. That's totally worn out. Boo.
I'm not a fan of Kamala's origin story, but the basic idea- starting out as a fan of superheroes and then becoming a superhero, has potential. That happens all the time in real life, most people in sports and entertainment started out as fans. My problem, is that she hasn't grown, she hasn't evolved or changed. There is a world of difference between being a fan of something and then being IN that profession. She still acts like a dreamy fangirl yrs later. When will she be grow up and be allowed to face real hero challenges?
Yeah, if the story were done properly, she should have shown us her heroic side by the time the first issue ended. Even if she lost. Even if her heroic side is a little rough. She probably would be scared, but we should have seen her at least TRY to fight a villain or some kind obstacle that no normal person would ever try. Kind of like the scene in Batman v Superman where Bruce Wayne is running into the smoke of a collapsing building like everyone else is running away. Unfortunately, Marvel gave us nothing within the first issue.
Watchface exactly on both accounts. Midoriya is a character that embodies a true hero whereas here, Kamala is not quite the same. She doesn’t exemplify a heroic trait. BvS, despite its flaws has some excellent storytelling in some aspects if you pay attention. Even areas with poor execution have stronger meaning than what Kamala Khan shows.
The origin Idea of fangirl of superheroes becoming a super-hero has merit, IF only the character was heroic. You'd think Kamila Kahn would AT THE VERY LEAST attempt to imitate her role models in some way. And when it came down to brass tacks, it took someone else to fill in that role.
@@MetaKnight964 Islam is not evil at all, it's just very grey. Kinda contradictory. Like, women must get paid 1/2 of what men get paid but in order for a women to be accussed from infidelity you need 4 whitnesses without including the husband. It's just weird.
@Mr. Fo'head My original comment was from 11 months ago, I've learnt a lot of things since then and now I couldn't agree more with what you said. Islam (and Abrahamic religions in general) are indeed evil.
LD, With your permission, I'd like to incorporate some of your points into my High School English class. They way you articulate what makes a good story (as well as what makes a bad one) is excellent. I also thought it was hysterical. Please upload videos more frequently. I listen to them on my commute to and from work.
Hay, thanks for letting a student do that. It's a rare thing and I feel like an outsider ought to comment on it, not just the person it helps. You did a good thing there LD.
Very well put. It's honestly tragic that the once great institution of Marvel Comics had been handed over to a band of far left progressive ideologues who are ruining not only it but the entire industry as well.
Another good point to be made is the nice dynamic of matt murdocks/ battling murdocks selflessness. He stayed true to his word and sacrificed for his father because that's what his father did for him. In the same way matt sacrificed his dreams, battling murdock sacrificed what could've potentially helped dig them out of their hole. His father chose to sacrifice money (and possibly to his knowledge his life) in order to be a good example for his son. His father was always on the lookout for work and always pushed his son towards good grades in order to be a great father figure.
A good example would be Spiderman into the spider-verse where a fan of super hero becomes a superhero but still has all the essentials of a proper origin story.
Two things to talk about related to this video. 1st, as far as I am aware, it wasn't actually fate and random magic bullshit that gave Kamala powers, that mist is a thing from the Inhumans called Terrigen Mist that I think in a prior story, was released on the planet and that mist activates latent Inhuman powers in humans since Inhumans are just genetically altered humans. The super heroes she saw were merely hallucinations as she slowly mutated and gained her powers, it wasn't just Ms. Marvel, Iron Man and Cap showing up and magicing powers. This doesn't change the fact that she still got them out of nowhere, I am merely explaining what actually happened to give her powers. 2nd, you mentioning that Daredevil could be a potential role model for people who have lost their sight? I have heard that some people who are blind actually do enjoy Daredevil due to this. Besides that, I am partially blind in my right eye and have been told it would potentially worsen to the point where I am fully blind at some point in my life, and that scares me. One thing I really love about Daredevil is that he is blind, but he still can do all these things in spite of that. The super senses don't even muddy the waters as they come with their own handicaps since Matt is more sensitive to sound and smell so he can easily be overwhelmed by it. I actually am enamored with Daredevil because this fear I have of losing my sight is a non issue to him because through hard work, he pushed passed all of that to make a life of his own which is awesome. You were correct in him being a role model for people suffering from similar ailments.
Even if he did neglect to mention it, a book needs to stand on its own. The daredevil book he also reviewed didn't require the audience to have some special previous knowledge, and if it DID, they would have added blurbs explaining the important details. This is an origin story, not a spinoff, ya know?
@@skinnysnorlax1876 I agree, I was just saying that just so people were aware that it wasn't magic bullshit, there was an actual reason. Though apparently it was retconned so maybe it was just magic bullshit.
@@emperorhadrian6011 Okay...? I mean, I am actually partially blind in my right eye, I can barely see out of it so I mean I am not lying but alright? Sorry for copping out with a physical ailment I didn't ask for...?
I think the issue is the concept of checking boxes; they're not writing a great character that happens to be a hero and a muslim, they're writing a muslim that somehow has to become a great character and a hero. While it is important to have representations of all walks of life, this shouldn't come at the sacrifice of good character development and storytelling. I don't give a damn if someone is supposed to be a muslim superhero if they're a dull blank that the author has told us is muslim; that's not just bad character development, you're moving into the realm of blatant pandering at that point. That said, it is a first issue, so I'd like to see if they're just trying to take their time with Kamala's growth into heroism, and not just trying to cram all the checks in on the origin issue.
Long time viewer, just subbed. Really enjoy all your content. Love the Riddler and your choice for using him as the icon. Also Marvel LOVES to hide digital sales, the physical sales of Ms Marvel have always been bad but they say "digital sales are great" and that's hard to believe and/or prove....
@@joshuatabor8755 Oh there are several hundred issues to go through buts that nature of a long running series. I can recommend some trades, like the dark judges, the long journey, necropolis, Mechanicum, the crossovers with batman. That stuff should give you a pretty good start.
To be fair, Kamela Khan wouldn't exist there. The environment wouldn't produce who we saw. Even if she was in a mega wealthy family, (required to produce a home life even remotely as pleasant as Khans) reality would have knocked too hard on her proverbial door for what we see. I'd be interested in an elseworld with that basic premise though, since most any writer would do SOMETHING with it.
@@LiteratureDevil Thanks for the intro it was a nice little teaser for the main theme of this video. Awesome job man please never give up on this channel. You have something special man, keep at it.
You should've had that speech about the captain marvel movie in super small font size to fit in the bubble. Great video love your work because it really helps me improve my writing and story telling.
Another example of a lack of sacrifice in modern SJW comics; Amadeus Cho-Hulk, aka "BroHulk", aka "GogurtHulk". Granted he gets his Hulk powers through noble means, trying to finally cure Bruce Banner of his Hulk-side, but there's NO sacrifice for him to deal with. He's still 13-year-old, mega-genius PoC/Korean Amadeus Cho, just able to turn big and green. Even when he gets stuck half-way it's no big deal because She-Hulk already got along with that, so why shouldn't he? No rage issues, no loss of intelligence, not even any puberty-esque wild mood swings for him to deal with. He's just yet another 'young-super-genius' character and it's so BORING. Oh god, don't get me started on what those lunatics did to She-Hulk. It hurts too much even now...
I meant that the author could have focused on (and it pains me to say this) transsexual issues, but that would have required a more complex thought process.
@@LiteratureDevil In SJW world the concept of deservedness is discriminatory (literal) and thus insisting that it exists and that people deserve things based on certain requirements is oppressive. That's why he wasn't granted super powers.
I'm a female who started absconding some of my uncle's comic collection in the mid 70s, before a grandparent trashed them all. One of my favorite early heroes I collected was the second generation heroes on DC's Earth-2, like the original Huntress, daughter of Batman and Catwoman. It gave her a fascinating perspective on many topics, even with the standard Batman skill set, I always regretted that she was retconned into something else after Crisis. Even the Perez era Wonder Woman wasn't as engaging as she was just coming after of her ultra-feminist mod boring karate era. I've had to stop collecting as career and family absorbed my budget, but I have not lost my interest in heroes: flaws, journies, and triumphs. We are all heroes of our own journies, but will we come through the belly of Campbell's beast and teach the hard-won lessons. Recent decades give short shrift to the belly: the tests and failures of heroes. They win no victory if they do't face real costs and defeat. But too many star characters of late (sadly, mostly the trumpeted new women like Rey and Danvers) are never tested to the breaking point to learn if they are made of steel or wood. Lucas got it (despite other issues) and I should have expected his PT would be the failure of the hero's journey after the Skywalker ranch hosted Dr Campbell's documentary. The ST never got the hero's journey started. The hero's journey is such a simple core for storytelling, it's hard to see it dying. Hero became a term of mockery and contempt by the young or hip by the 80s, and that rot keeps spreading. SF and comics resisted but now its metastasizing there too. I managed to miss comicsgate and sad puppies, dug in a corner of fandom where they were far away, TLJ broke that dam. Now all the heroes, from Who to Spock to Luke, are not just being forgotten, but belittled, smacked, and subtracted from, by jealous people who aren't good enough to make new iconic characters that speak to the audience the way they want. They can't, because there is no journey. I see far more journies in amateur fan works than what professionals are putting out.
Funny how they market her as the FIRST muslim superhero, when Dust from the X-Men came years before. I believe there were also other muslim heroes done in the 70s and 80s. But current comics want to forget the diversity of the past and pretend its a new thing. Marvel seems to like to market that Captain Marvel is now A GIRL when its not that shocking. The second Captain Marvel was a black woman named Monica and she is still around to this day, but its been noticed how Marvel seems to hide her from the public. Perhaps because they feel Carold Danvers should be seen as a new thing instead of a second try.
If they were to reread Decimation and start counting minorities and females and males, I think they could have just left it all alone. X comics have always had diversity. Dust's first appearance was 2002, a sooni muslim wearing a burqua
I just noticed how similar Kamala Khan's origin story is to Virgil Hawkins (Static Shock, the TV version), which in itself is part of the Peter Parker archetype. I think it works better for Static because it's streamlined. Virgil ends up getting powers after sneaking out to go to a social gathering, the difference is that Virgil disobeyed his parents because he's a teen. Kamala snuck out because she's a teen AND Muslim, the religious aspects seems so pronounced and important but in the grand scheme of things is actually just something else in the pile of crap teens (from their perspective) have to deal with. Its less an issue of content and more execution, if Kamala has more than just a single source of her struggles then her story would be much more balanced. One thing I actually like about Kamala as opposed to Murdok is her utter normalcy. I don't see Matt Murdok as an actual person, in a way he's the idealistic Christian son. I can easily see Kamala as an actual person with her selfish arrogant teen flaws on full display. If only the first chapter focused on that rather than her religion. We expect Matt Murdok to be a hero, his personality and deposition makes it painfully obvious. Kamala on the other hand isn't a hero, but her journey is learning to become one (though I'd argue she's still too 'nice' for it to work). Kamala has so much more potential than Murdok (based only on their opening chapters), but the Ms. Marvel story is terribly mishandled. That said, My Hero Academia completely dunk on anything Marvel has produced yet in terms of characters. The character arcs of Deku and Bakugo put Ms. Marvel and Daredevil (and most anything else produced by Marvel or DC) in terms of easy of consumption and depth.
I wouldn't give those chinese picture books that much credit. A lot of the stuff they do, they got from old Marvel and DC comics. I won't say they don't do it well- because, admittedly, they do- and they may blow stuff like America Chavez and Ms. Marvel out of the water (which isn't saying a whole lot, because they both suck ass), but they most certainly do not "Dunk on" stuff like gold/silver age Daredevil, and The Dark Knight Returns. This is actually coming from someone who likes MHA.
3:00 Kamalah Khan isn't the first muslim superhero though. Not even in marvel. That was Kismit. As for characters with star power, Monet St Croix, french Palestinian and member of the Xmen, and Soorya Kidar, or Dust, Afghani American. DC also had Simon Ba, a muslim green lantern. ALL OF THESE before Ms Marvel. And those are just the ones I can remember.
When a character is made to fill a checklist instead of to be a character a mistake's been made. Mrs.Marvel is muslim to be advertised as muslim. For comparison, Miles Morales isn't black to be advertised as black. He just is what he is. The line on the cover calling the first issue "The most important comic of 2014" is an insult to anyone that can read, and is honestly proof that comicsgate is right. SJWMarvel as it's called sucks. It's all diverse not to be interesting and imagine it *ACTUALLY DIVERSE*, it's to fill out a checklist so it can be marketable to people that want a victim card.
It's because they're essentially all from the same formula based school of thought. They're taught what to write, not how to write. What to think, not how to think. All part of the plan and it starts with "education"...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the old days a creator had to make the first issue a self-contained story because there was no guarantee that the creator would get to make a second issue for their character. If your character didn't sell well then they move on to the next person with an idea for a superhero. This Ms. Marvel is 100% dependent on there being a 2nd issue because nothing happened in the 1st issue. To me, the author is basically saying that she can take her sweet ass time and drag this story out because her minority status makes her immune to termination.
Hmm, thinking about it, Kamala’s origin story could be kept (with some changes) and made to work, but the following stories would have to be like Booster Gold and would have to involve her learning what it actually means to have powers and be a hero.
This is my second video I’ve watched from this channel. The first was the Eastern vs Western Sotrytelling Styles video, which I watched right before this one. In yhis context, the new comic sounds like an eastern style while the old one sounds like a western one, regardless of quality, upon which I will not make judgment on because I haven’t read either. But I think this should be taken into account
That does actually seem to be the trend. New comic writers are using a more Eastern style because they're trying to emulate manga. However, they're falling short because they don't understand the style or the techniques behind them.
I agree with your review. I have some comments, however. I think the issues with Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) are the motivation and set-up aspect of her story. I thought she was a decent character in and of herself, as far as I think she is written more like a realistic female. I found it kinda fun to see her learn her powers and her geeky attitude was a bit endearing for me after issue #1. Not knocking iconic female comicbook characters, though the "Men with boobs" writing issue where characters are just masculine women (Captain Marvel) is a legitimate problem and the SJW/Diversity group seems to only think that a woman is best empowered when usurping a man. I think the heroic feminine is genuinely something to experiment with in writing. But again, she does not experience anything to earn her powers.
khamala Kahn s carácter had tons of potential,, hell it even became kind of popular because of that. A milenial trying to become like someone she admires has tons of way to become compelling...and it was….for a time even with the muslim stuff. But the balance broke and Marvel lose all of his story potential and replaced it with politics. Tons of great concepts wasted again and again. It s sad when gwenpool becomes one of your favorite comics, just because how shit everything else is..
The saddest part is that, as you said, everything she starts off doing could have been fine if she had a Peter Parker moment of nobility. People aren't perfect, and they make mistakes. You can make a hero relatable in that fashion. But you can't do it without showing their noble traits too. They started that entire story off with all of her negative traits and then super powers. Unless her creativity and "progressive" attitudes toward her religion were supposed to be good traits. You could spin them that way but there's better ways to show those. Don't have her sneak out. Have her stand up to her friend's more hardline parents who try to come down on her. Have her do it with a creative argument, maybe have her explanation be animated in a more childish style of art. Then smash cut to her room and her desk. She failed, and then she got home-locked by her parents. Maybe even for her protection. But the whole thing just feels too much like the friend she failed to help's situation. So in a combination of guilt and revolt against the wrong people, she goes to the party anyway. Gets mad that someone else saved her even, its reasonable with her guilt - she wants to hate herself atm. Then she gets her powers. And leave on a question for the next issue. What sort of person is she? The vengeful, beat up my friend's parents, kind? Even have her on the cusp of doing it, then have her back down and just hang out depressed somewhere. Then have a crime happen near to her. Maybe even have her save the assholes from the first comic. You can play all those human conflicts fine but you have to build her up and people won't let you do that if you spend an entire issue giving them no reason to care if you do. Currently there's no reason to care, she's a brat with super powers now. Who cares if she improves because she'll always be a brat. She's full Bakugou syndrome without even the childhood friendship to save her right now.
@@trentmoore6947 Its probably incredibly incomplete. I engineered it from one review video and on the spot, and I'm not writer, but I hope the main point shined through within it.
Sjw characters are not humans. They are unable to express any basic human emotion, they never make any mistakes and they are always right. I don't know anybody who can possibly relate to them, except the author.
Lmao at 5:30 xD On the other hand, it's an interesting analysis, in fact, showing some character arc instead of being mired in this permanent "Simpsons-esque Status Quo" or character stagnation would do wonders for characters like Kamala, who, okay, she's introduced as a snotty teenager and stuff, but through the course of her experiences, and as a result of her receiving her powers she matures and becomes a better person, because at the end, superheroes are a metaphor for the transition to be a better person overall.
Yup. That's why I mention that Ms. Marvel #1 has a good set up and structure for a drama. But it isn't so good for a superhero series. And it is possible to have a character arc, character growth and drama while keeping true to the superhero genre and fit it all within the first issue.
None of this had to happen this way. None of the characters, nor their stories, had to suck this bad. Even with weirdos and first timers at the helm of art and writing (if you can all either either). It's infuriating.
So... I just realized that this video wasn't from two years ago, so I decided to leave a comment on how much I enjoyed it. It's good to see people pointing out that comic, novels or movies aren't about the superhero as a singularity, is more about said superhero doing the right thing eventhough he/she has possibly suffered more than the people he/she is saving, but ultimately it's the very reason he/she saves people. P.s. Did I mention that I enjoyed this video?
Matt Murdock lived his life based on obligation, duty, and the honor of your word. Kamala Khan only lives for herself. So Daredevil tells us that honor and duty can make you a hero, and Ms. Marvel tells us that selfishness is to be rewarded.
It's quite the remarkable feat for modern Marvel comics writers to not just make exceptionally terrible stories, but to make exceptionally terrible superhero stories without the heroism. It's literally in the name. But I guess not being able to read (or think) is a common writer mistake.
Beautifully put. Murdock is a true hero and the fact that they aren't is the problem with the Mary Sues, both female AND male, that are prevalent in comics, film and almost all entertainment.
Just to clarify something. I know Kamala Khan was not REALLY the first Muslim superhero. I guess I didn't sound sarcastic enough when saying it lol. A trend among SJWs and SJW Marvel is to celebrate that their favorite new character, show, or series is the "First X" even when it isn't true. Just like they did when they called Black Panther the first black superhero movie despite Blade (now apparently changed to a horror movie) and Steel (guess they just forgot about that one) existing. That's why I used a picture of an article that says they were claiming Kamala was the first (and partly to prove that, yes, they were actually spinning that narrative) and then later state she was being "PUSHED" as the first Muslim superhero.
Hope this helps.
When you said it, I assumed you meant she was being touted as the first Muslim female superhero. That sounds very SJW Marvel-like.
I can't tell when you are sarcastic.
You always sound sarcastic.
@@Oscar-j6b I know lol
@@LiteratureDevil can't expect everything else from the devil.
In all fairness, we ALL want to forget about Steel.
“Matt Murdock was a hero before he put on the mask.”
This
That's the misalignment that Ms. Marvel has; the superpowers bring out the qualities of the character already present.
What is Kahn gonna do, be more entitled and selfish and, dare I say, Muslim with her powers?
"You can't punch Islam"
*Pope Urban II is typing...*
Lol, didn't expect a Biotuber to be here. Also DEUS VOLT!
IN THE NAME OF GOD
Whats that?
Another Crusade?
Again?
That crusade's success lasted less than a century and the Christians lost all the others.
@@ToaGresh300 Do you want me to revere electricity? I don't get it...
As F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, "Action is character." That means a character is defined not by what we're told about them, but by what they do. The writers of Miss Marvel forgot that. We like Daredevil because he _does_ heroic things; he _earns_ his heroic status through personal struggles, overcoming obstacles, and making sacrifices. On the other hand, we're just supposed to like Miss Marvel because she's an oppressed minority and we're racist if we don't, and we're supposed to accept that she just somehow deserves to have her superpowers because she's just so damn special and you're upholding the white supremacist patriarchy if you disagree.
Excellent reference. And quite true.
It is like the ancient mantra of writers, "Show, don't tell"
Don't tell they are a hery, SHOW they are hero!
I never thought I'd see such a meeting of god
Gods
Why do you keep privatizing your stuff?
Best Muslim superhero?
MUHAMMAD AVDOL!
YES, I AM!
(jojo's bizzare adventure)
yeah a better character and likeable personality then those machine pretending to be human
These Marvel muslim superheroes can't even pull off a satisfying *HELL 2 U* smh.
OH MY GOD!
Isn't he from the 80s?
Tsk Tsk
“Did you remember to mention the fact that she’s Muslim?”
Wait wait wait. Hold on. Is she a muslim?????
Do you mind repeating that? I couldn't quite hear you the first few times
I think she might be Muslim
You guys are onto something
Whoa she's muslim?! How progressive
*"Feedback is a Hate Crime"* ... Pretty accurate
The answer to the riddle is "sacrifice."
The more I die the more they gain. The more I give up, the better off they will be.
Through blood or tears and awful pain, I'm loved and lost or tossed away. It is through HARD work and even death that my sacrifice let's others to live or a lie of my personal character that allows other to live comfortably. (Think Nolan Batman.)
For power, for love, or a brighter day. Reasons to sacrifice who and what you are or what you own for the sake of power, love, or a brighter future.
I tough its ,,a hero"-oh wait...
I thought the answer was "liberty" but hero is a good answer too.
I thought it is "honor", but yeah Sacrifice makes more sence.
I thought that the answer was "Hope", but I can't help but concede that "sacrifice" seems 100% spot-on.....
@@37robinb I think they go hand in hand, so hero works too.
Really? The first panel for a "progressive" comic book about a female was a sandwich?? XD
Write what you know...right?
it make more sense now thank to the "biggot sandiwch" line from tlou2
"You can't punch Islam"
Someone somewhere in the world: Hold my beer.
Just don't draw their guy or else your done for
Punches the border
And then said guy tripped and fell on a land mine. His family is still grieving.
Hey, have you heard about China?
Yeah.... I'm quite sure they do even worse things towards muslims....
@@partydave1067 That's more like... Bending Islam over and shoving a whole ass porcupine up its... Ass.
Ms marvel was not the first Muslim superhero, not even close, the first was Kismet 'the man of fate' in 1941, the book had a hilarious in hindsight name and was well written for the time, marvel's first was Arabian Knight, she isn't even the first female Muslim superhero, Sand from X Men has her beat by nearly a decade, she isn't even the first Muslim legacy superhero since Simon Baz the current green lantern on justice league debuted months before her, she was old hat straight off the presses so we can't even give her such destinations of first or innovative.
I know lol. I was pointing out that SJWs love to push their works as "firsts." That's why I used the article. Kind of like when they pushed Black Panther as the first black superhero movie and so pushed Blade off as a horror movie and forgot about Steel.
There was even Excalibur in the Captain Britain and MI:13 books that handled a very overt islamic hero way better than Kamala was handled, who also preceded her by close to 8-10 years
But..reality can be whatever i want!
@@LiteratureDevil so they're like those who comment 'first' on a video that already has dozens of comments.
"Sand"? I think you mean Dust?
A lot of women prefer 'slice of life' stories and that's exactly what the genre in Ms. Marvel is. It's a genre regularly seen in manga and like you mentioned, young adult drama/sitcoms and you're right, it doesn't work for a superhero comic. Anyways, absolutely brilliant side by side analysis!
One Punch Man is a better slice of life, and it's not even a slice of life anime! 😂🤣
Most hero manga stories follow the same basic formula of thrusting you into the action then adding background to the characters. In the majority of them the characters grow as individuals and even the self-absorbed ones have some level of selflessness. The ones that don't are called drama...
Even manga writers know how to make super hero slice of life. There is a way to mix the two genres.
Mob Psycho 100, kid just wants to better himself independent of his super powers. With actual character growth both in main and side characters. With plenty of action and world saving. That's how you do it right. But the message is very anti SJW, don't blame society for your problems, you can fix yourself.
Yes. Marvel and DC used to do occasional "a day in the life of" stories, but they were one issue out of 30--a nice change of pace, not the main thrust. I agree completely that women generally expect something much different from their drama than men do. They want that "filler" in between the action scenes. It's where the "meat" of the story exists for them. But men want less filler and more action. The action/adventure is the "meat" of the story for them.
That's one of the big problems with all these feminist books. They keep losing male readers not out of hate or any of that garbage, but out of BOREDOM.
Old school heroes had to sacrifice to show worthiness because back in the day, we all knew what happens when a self-absorbed, narcissistic person gets power - they become a full-on sociopath.
This is such an underrated comment. There are multiple villian origin stories I can think of that play out almost exactly like many nu-marvel hero's origin stories.
With you but standards are really high now. Jane Foster as Thor literally dies, reversing her cancer treatment to protect people and it wasn't good enough to satisfy a bunch of the #comicsgate people here. Idk
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d Because Jane Foster is Jane Foster, while Thor is Thor.
We did the "female Thor" thing once already, and look how it turned out. Because Thor Odinson is Thor, not Jane Foster or anybody else.
@@immikeurnot What you're saying doesn't make sense. It's the equivalent of someone looking at the original and saying "Thor is Thor. Not Donald Blake!"
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d The Donald Blake Thor annoyed me as well but that's just taking a good fun character and hobbling him for no reason, that being said Thor was always a cameo character for me I never read his comics but the cripple doc took up valuable pages that could have gone to my green goliath or the blond jock getting punched in the face. I can understand why some would like that variant but I didn't. The only female Asgardian that was needed was Valkyrie, Jane Foster Thor was redundant, Valkyrie was awesome and she was one of Hulk's best and most loyal friends. It would have been great if Defenders era Valkyrie was still around during World Breaker, there would have been no need to create Sentry though and he is rather interesting, but if I recall she was replaced somewhere in the 80s or 90s I think.
"You may have liked The Last Jedi if you've never seen Empire Strikes Back." I "oooooooh"ed out loud on that one. Nice dig!
However I watched both and personally loved both
@@ThePowerSerg922
I shall laugh at thy shit opinion, but I will defend your right to speak it out.
Recently watched episodes 4 and 5 for the first time in many years. Forgot how truly awesome they were. The disappointment in the sequels in particular is so warranted.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 NOW THAT is a good response to someone you disagree with
@@ItsNotMeitsYouTu8e I haven’t watched them in years and I still remember them being great.
Comics like these makes me sick.
And I am a muslim who lives in Turkey.
get used to it, Disney is amping up the diversity in all of its properties going forward...or at least until they start losing enough money that these shills get fired....after all it is just a corporation run by share holders
Turks are the most secular muslims in the world
@@tacoespacial9443 Actually it depends.
Some parts of Turkey are very conservative and when I went there people dressed more "islamically" then in the country I reside in which is the UAE.
If we're talking about laws , yes Turkey is the most secular Muslim country however I'd say that doesn't mean the average Turk is secular per se.
-be a modern age Christian kid with no ambition
-sees "deus vult" comment
-looks up deus vult on RUclips
-clicks on deus vult meme compilation
...5 hours later...
-searches amazon for a long sword and knight helmet.
Zombie Tools has some pretty awesome swords - not sure about helmets tho.
WhiteKnight Leo thank you brother, I shall look into that.
So are we taking jersualm or what?
@Sharkzilla3000 Alright ill gather the troops.
Vlad Tepes It's on like Donkey Kong!
That comic is so ironic to be laughable. Hero's overcome adversity in the face of their own challenges/shortcomings. Her biggest adversity is her own religion. That's not very pro Muslim lmao.
You could work with that, but the setup is poorly done & there's no follow through. Just like being an immature teenager is a good flaw to overcome, but there's nothing there for the reader to think that's coming. Good writing overcomes average, & even poor, origins. Poor writing kills any story.
I didn’t know this much about daredevil’s origin story before this video. What I really like about it is that his behavior is very Christian. He puts his father’s will above his own? He suffers persecution because of it but endures? He sacrifices himself for another? That’s practically the textbook ideal Christian, but written in a believable way and without yet explicitly stating his religion. Another contrast between Daredevil and new Ms. Marvel is that the Daredevil comic shows Daredevil’s religion through his actions, but the Ms. Marvel comic just talks about Ms. Marvel’s religion without her doing anything to show it. And as they say, show, don’t tell.
Quite true. What SJW Marvel doesn't know is that pushing a label doesn't work. When you try to give the audience a gay character, or a woman character, or a trans character...you don't get someone who's well-rounded. You don't get a character at all. You get a stereotype. If they wanted to make a Muslim hero...they shouldn't have given us a Muslim. They should have given us a hero that shows us the noble aspects of Islam.
@@LiteratureDevil Do you think that last sentence will mean they have to give Islam a really REALLY good pr campaign then?
And oddly enough, Daredevil was written by a Jewish guy. Guess a good writer is more important than some people think these days.
Daredevil is a Catholic Christian - At least I think he is...
Ugh please dont drag your fictional christian ideals into this. Clearly you dk christianity that well since its ideals are really about incest, baby killing, murder and slavery.
"He stands as a potential role model for anyone who has lost their eyesight."
Too bad they can't read comics.
Underappreciated comment.
I think audio comics existed when Daredevil was written. But I do get the irony joke.
I know you're joking but yes it actually was well received by blind people. They would have others read the comic to them and describe the action.
Well, comic book characters are culturally icons. I am very familiar with the super hero Spawn even though I have never read a single Spawn comic
I laugh because I am going to hell anyway
This needs to be seen by more people, this is exactly why comic book stores are going out of business. You used facts in a very leveled explanation.
Heroes no longer act heroically in marvel properties. They're just blank slates so the writer can virtue signal
Or for sad, insecure, immature shut-ins to pretend to be something they inherently aren’t.
An hero has to save even people he dont like. Early there was the comparision with Kahn/Midoriya where in his introduction, Midoriya DID rescue his bully from a real murderous super villain.
Except for Infamous Iron Man.
@Rick O'Shay much like when he crushed the KKK in 40's radio.
@Rick O'Shay Quite right, Dark Knight Returns is where his globalist traits began to emerge
When SJW insert themselves in the story, the main character becomes selfish, entitled, spoiled and over dramatic brat making them unlikable. Excellent compression choice using Daredevil (a real hero).
That describes a sjw quite well.
How about batman ... oh wait he is rich af
Who or what ISNT a real hero compared to SJW possessed characters?
That is why I hate Arrow
Also they are the same, what SGW's call it "race"
i'm happily accepting i'm a misogynist and a homophobic if that means i appreciate good writing and i despise one-trait phonies
same here Sexy Kanga
Same.
character depth is important ~🎶
One-trait phonies…
Excuse me while I jot that down. That's one amazing phrase.
@@Yuethefallen
No, not (just) "important".......
.....it's *_ESSENTIAL_*
😉
ok so Kamala's origin story is that she became a super hero because she liked super heroes, so the super heroes she liked appeared to her in a vision and said "Hey wanna be a super hero?".
Wow, very deep story telling
literally sounds like all the monsters in one punch man "I liked x so much I became one"
I think it would be pretty cool if little by little, she became disillusioned and angry at what the superhero career wasn’t; what it made you do and what you couldn’t do. Start arguing with other, but more zealous minded heroes, and slowly finding how to keep her love of heroing, but also keep her life.
@@tommy0con2 except they actually wanted the power kamala doesn't even want hers
Deku has the same origin concept of “I love superheroes so I wanna be one” and handed power to him. However, he is very dedicated to being self-sacrificing to the point where he breaks his limbs to save others. In contrast to him, I don’t think ms. marvel fangirling over superheroes has taught her anything about self-sacrifice.
A good ending to a origin is Peter Parker turning down the iron spider suit from tony stark to have a more normal life in spider man homecoming
I think another good comparison is with Spiderman. Like Ms Marvel, Peter Parker got his powers suddenly without effort. He becomes an entitled jerk thinking only of himself and lets a thief go because there's nothing in it for him. By the end of the very first issue, Spiderman gets slammed hard by the consequences of his action or rather his inaction when he learns the thief [spoiler!] killed his beloved Uncle Ben. Spiderman completely changes by the end of the issue and you understand his motivation to be a hero from then on with his uncle's words ringing in his ears. In just 12 pages a much better character arc was created - a wallflower bullied by peers, gets superpowers, becomes a fame-seeking jerk, learns a harsh lesson in responsibility, and becomes a true hero. Ms. Marvel completely misses that in her first issue. Despite being muslim, there is very little difference between her and any other teen girl who has strict parents. "Girls just wanna have fun and oh, hey! I have superpowers now!"
Just wait. This series isn't quite finished yet.
Frankly what I've seen of Ms Marvel makes me angry - oversimplistic, patronising (why yes, because white, blonde non-Muslims can only be ignorant bigots and never people who want to reach out yet suck at it) and she doesn't become a super hero because she wants to help people; she just wants to be fawned over. The fanfiction part is also tacky in a universe where super heroes are real. If Samaa Amanat even liked superhero stories, she'd be AWARE of this.
Another point... that Kamala turns into blonde Ms Marvel at the end - this winds me up because it plays into the learned helplessness behind the current talk about representation - that "oh no, minorities can't have heroes to look up to who LOOK like them, how AWFUL!! :'(" It honestly looks as if the crucial point, creating a HERO who is also a Muslim girl in America, didn't matter at all - just the desire to do superficial box ticking and give her her a comic and her current hype on a silver platter just for being a non-White Muslim girl. This is ironically a slap in the face of Muslim readers who read Marvel for the HEROES who face CONFLICT and POWERFUL VILLAINS. My understanding is Kamala doesn't even get any strong opponents who challenge her throughout her series, ever. She's just a vanity project for Samaa and G Willow Wilson.
Suprised you didn't bring up spiderman for a comparison Peter parker was immature and acted like a jerk when he got his powers, until uncle ben died and he decided to become spiderman
Not done yet
Spiderman was so close to becoming a super villain... Super smart, ostracized, gets super powers... But it makes sense he doesn't, his uncle's death changes him. New superheroes feel like they should all be villains. They have no strong motif to be good, and if you have great power and no reason to be good, history teaches us you're very likely to become very bad.
@@LiteratureDevil he did even consider robbing a bank in the first ASM issue to help Aunt May Hard to look back now, but that's how conflicted Peter life is.
On my birthday (Dec. 40, woooo) I was innocently browsing Twitter when I was accosted by a tweet from "MARVEL Entertainment" that said: "People have been trying and failing to create the next Spider-Man since 1968 but in 2014 they did just that with MS. MARVEL" and all the comments were comments kissing ass and tonguing butthole, basically agreeing 100% and I died inside wondering who these people are. Whenever someone commented to disagree the replies were like how dare u YOURE PROBABLY A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE.
I CANT WITH THIS. How could they say Kamala Khan is the new Peter Parker with a straight face? It's obviously an agenda of some kind OR the world has gone sjw INSANE. Bunch of PC thugs.
I don't want to say what I am cos I love the anonymity of the internet and I will always prefer not identifying what I am in order to validate any opinion I have but I hate sjwnpc marvel with a passion. As a native american/irish female in my late late 20's I should, according to everyone else, be eating this garbage up. But I'm not and I never will and will always support super hero comics the way they were and should be: free from PC SJW NPC identity politics.
(Also I know this sounds like one of those cringy r/notlikeothergirls OTHER GIRLS: uwu omg I love makeup and lattes mebut not me: -something "quirky" and unusual but not really at all because every one knows people are individuals with their own tastes etc.-) Sorry. I was just rambling and trying to make a point. Ugh. I might delete this
You can't punch Islam but you can sure as hell crusade it
LOL!
Now I want somebody to write a superhero crusader story
@@israelicrusader8766 I'll keep that in mind.
*DEUS VULT INTENSIFIES*
I've got to admit @omri gany that would be a fascinating setup. The Crusades are generally seen as some of the worst behavior to come out of Christianity/Catholicism. To have someone gain power from that and need to represent the good in it's source without denying that evil came about from it as well, in the modern world would be potentially very interesting. Especially if the (apparent) source of that power was a divine visitation. Few (in universe) would believe that God would intervene to hand power to someone for any reason. Especially if the power granted wasn't spectacular. (Think more Captain America than Thor in terms of power and ability type)
How many people are willing to follow a good leader, even if they don't necessarily like what that leader can be seen to represent? Even if that leader is truly heroic, leading from the front and relentlessly doing good where and as they can?
Have said power granted to someone who isn't very openly devout, who won't trust the message was true, and you have an internal reflection of that external conflict. A solid contrasting villain would be an utterly immoral crook, someone convinced that all 'gods' are just powerful and clever beings and nothing divine. (if your in Marvel, have the villain point to Thor and the Asguardians as 'proof') Someone convinced that the nature of people is pure selfishness and all else is sophistry, the 'behind the scenes' mob boss of a villain. One that never fights personally, never risks themselves, but easily 'sacrifices' others. (Deliberate misuse of that term here) Where our protagonist is the inverse. Heck for maximum mirroring, have the chief minion to the villain in your opening story sport powers on par with the protagonist and be thrown under the proverbial bus so the villain escapes. Then use that former villain as the protagonists support.
I'm picturing someone with super powers, but weak enough ones (think D-list tier) they simply can't get anywhere on their own. Suckered by the glitz and glory of being a villain (presumably had a small criminal record beforehand so going heroic didn't appeal.) only to find out the reality about the wages of sin. Seeing someone no stronger than he is (in the grand scheme) care about him where his 'boss' didn't would be enough if an offer was made to turn coat. Plus this gives you someone with street smarts on the protagonist's side.
I think it could solidly work out with a decent writer and artist.
Basically, people are pissed that some Marvel comics consist of "Hi, I'm a minority!" Instead of having an actual story.
BluLikeFriendlyHit this comment is funny because it’s truthful.
I dislike the trend towards men being portrayed as dumb, arrogant, evil or all three at the same time. It's unfair and sexist.
I have no interest in giving my money to see if film about a bunch of heroic perfect women defeat yet another group of hapless males.
I think the seed was planted with Frozen and it was brought to full maturity with the Last Jedi.
@ShaddowSabbath Nope. I'm expressing my opinion how the movies suck and saying I'm not going to spend money on them.
And what's different is that I'm not taking over a popular existing franchise and completely destroying it.
Your point is completely invalid as a result.
@@hiroshima9120 We *already* did. And we had a multi *billion* dollar franchise going. And it had strong female characters.
40 years ago. And then we did it *again* over the last decade.
And then some asshats got power over those franchises and instead of creating their own franchise they ruined the ones I was enjoying spending money on.
And they were *both* a damn sight more balanced than the garbage these new people are putting out.
And many of us are calling them on it. And we've stopped spending our money on it. I haven't seen Solo - didn't spend a dime on it. I haven't seen Captain Marvel- didnt' spend a dime on it.
And I'm probably not going to see more than 25% of phase 4 products for the MCU because it's obvious they are going to turn out a bunch of poor quality product that's off brand from what they made for the last decade.
@@macmcleod1188 its alright, the world is starting to realize and by the world i mean the people who run it "corporations" that sjw 's are not to be pandered to. soon they'll be this generations version of emo or goth and eventually phase out, or be accepted and ignored. i mean we're humans we react in two ways when something is presented for a long enough time first in the beginning we react heavily then in the long run we either tune it out or get aggressively violent to the point where it "being the object or ideology" goes extinct from pressure. disbands or chooses another cause or goal.
We don't want "diversity AND merit."
We want merit. Only merit. No consideration of diversity at all: considering merit and only merit. No matter what the resulting demographic makeup of the writers and artists turns out to be.
wait...you don't want that one token schizophrenic asian dude with parkinsons disease being included in the emergency room to operate on you after a near fatal accident?
Actually diversity is important as well. Even best story, told 1000 times would become boring. Keep discovering realms of society and imagination thats never being touched before and turn them into good story is a very important aspect of literature.
*Benjamin McLean* how about this, we create a character who is apart of a minority, but we don’t push the SJW agenda and focus the hero’s story instead of their ethnicity or sexuality (or anything related).
Diversity is supposed to push that these people exist and they are like everyone else in society, to stop unjust prejudice. But that idea has become more twisted over the years, as more people believe that certain minorities are superior than the majority, and anyone who is against that philosophy is pure evil.
@@bilibiliism Identity alone isn't what makes a character compelling whatsoever. If you want to promote ethnic diversity, first do so by also writing a interesting story towards said character.
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Agreed!
You know, this kinda makes me want to see how you'd compare SJW comics to other characters that are accused of being boring, overpowered, or having plot armor
Interesting idea
sooo... comparing apples to apples
Myst Erious Lee
Well yeah. You can’t compare apples and oranges. They’re two different things. Comparing two apples would actually be a valid comparison.
“You can’t punch Islam”
I think some polish hussars would disagree. They punched islam so hard it's left a permanent dent in their religion.
The Knights of the Teutonic Order.
They ran out eventually so they turned on Christianity. Specifically Poland.
Then Poland went off to fill the gap in the Market created when the Teutonic Order left the crusades...
Have a nice day.
Indeed they did!!!
While looking absolutely awesome! LOL I mean, being charged by horsemen with wings must have been truly terrifying. Good psy-ops on Poland's part.
When the winged hussars arrived?
james M- SABATON!🤘
Wait, that first was a real comic? That was terrible. No wonder people hate that character. I never read any Daredevil, but that was pretty legit!
Daredevil is awesome and there are a lot of stories where he goes above and beyond to help people but he isn't just a saint because there have been times where he's fallen HARD either through fault of the villain or his own personality issues that ended up fucking him. Either way, he is an awesome hero who has loved and lost, won and sacrificed, failed and redeemed himself plenty of times.
remember, when this came out it was to near-universal acclaim! this was years before comicsgate after all.
I’m a minority and I’m with Comicsgate all the way. This forced diversity is horseshit and the content suffers because they include the SJW values for the sake of it.
The fact that Daredevil is Christian is just a bonus to me, as a Christian, because he's such a great superhero. I don't even think of that as the first point in his favor. I'm a huge fan of the heroes who don't have devastating powers by birth or whatever strange coincidence, I mean, Peter Parker got his powers by accident, but still had to work to make them effective, and he encountered said accident (depending on the version you're looking at) by doing other types of work.
Your insights are awesome and I love that they come from a writing perspective.
This whole situation can be summed up in a handful of words, "get woke go broke" no one wants to be preached to or lectured
Explain sunday mass and it's attendance.
@@davidhaaijema4521 since the video is about SJW related preaching in comics you'd think you could suss out my point from the context of the video but I'll explain it in more detail. No one wants to be preached to over SJW related topics. Church is a uplifting event where a believer goes to hear the word of his/her God. I guess people who go to church and don't believe wouldn't like it but then again why would they go in the first place?
@@lars1701again Think real hard, what do SJW's do as well ? O right blur our one-liners that make no sense.
"be careful when hunting monsters you do not become a monster, for when you stare long enough into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you", Friedrich Nietschze.
If you think SJW's are so bad, I suggest reading actual OG Classical Liberal works instead of resorting to one-liners and reactionary attitudes.
Also Church is uplifting ? "Slay the heathen where ever you might find him!", Church until like 19th century..... Also do I have to remind you how politics use to go including that Church that was so uplifting and "free to go to" ?
Geezus "Look look! i'm going to fight identity politics with my own identity politics by virtue signalling with stupid one liners how bad identity politics is" < you in a nutshell.
Jesus Christ man. Talking about Sunday mass as if that had anything to do with what OP was originally talking about is pretty ridiculous.
@@davidhaaijema4521 What Exactly is your point here? Do you have a point thats relevant to the vid your trying to make?
'I'm The Nostalgia Hero, I fight the villains so YOU don't have to!'
@Elephant Mang nostalgia critic is a SJW?
@Gold Coin or his other failed project, 'Channel Awesome'.
He is the villain though
If you're the Literature Devil, does that make us the Devil's advocates?
I've been called worse things.
I've been researching comicsgate for weeks and I've seen alot of crazy stuff, this was by far the best explanation of what's wrong with comics today and pop culture. This was So eye opening. Thank you. I'll be watching all 4 parts Tonite.
Oh, by the way:
You forget to mention that she is a Muslim.
Now, let's compare Kamala Khan ( supposed hero ) in her series to Dr. Doom/Infamous Iron Man ( villain seeking to change ) . Kamala in her first issue is nothing more than telling the audience how muslim she is. In Doom's first issue, he saves Maria Hill from being killed and saves two boys from being killed by a robot.
All while apologizing that he's new to this whole "Being a hero" thing.
Only one criticism: you probably should take story not from 60s. (just to be clear - rest of essay is great)
Silver age comics have very condensed fast pace.
Modern comic pace is "movie-like" (around 5-15 min of screen time for page).
Story from 80s-90s would be better example. It's truly amazing how much story, characters' background and general info they managed to cram into 22-25 page comic with 2-3 action scenes without breaking that "movie-like" pace.
That's what I, personally, miss in current comics.
If that is so, not having enough personal comics experience, if anything the fact that the 60s stuff isn't even Marvel comic artistry at its peak resoundingly trumping the agenda driven swivel offered in the current year makes it even better.
@@somebody5702 True. But still it's a li'l bit unfair to say that Silver Age comic managed to say more in less pages.
It's like saying: "Original fairy tale was only couple paragraphs long. Why do we need 2 hours of cartoon/movie adaptation?"
Difference in way of telling story. That's all. And old comics were VERY different in this.
@@somebody5702 For some excellent 90s Marvel (or DC) comics I highly recommend DAREDEVIL:YELLOW by the fabulous team Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale, also including Daredevil's origin story or, if you think you can handle it, the Batman graphic novel Arkham Asylum by Grant Morisson and Dave McKean, which is very dark and artsy.
@@antimonycup7066 Thanks, Ill look into it
I don't know. The fact that a current comic has less story with more pages seems pretty bad to me. I've been on the manga train for years now and the amount of story that even the weekly works put out makes this look shameful, especially since a lot of current Western comics seemed to be poorly imitating them.
Stories based on identity and a caricature of the "white" culture seem stunted compared to variations on the themes of ancient mythology and age old archetypes and tackling the universal human story through tales of the heros and gods. Was gilgamesh a white dude? I honestly don't know. How about Enkidu? Those stories move beyond the mere physical plane and get into metaphysics. and the human struggle with primal forces.
The SJW stories are lame and demeaning to their characters and honestly just troll a caricature of "white people". The SJW identity struggle story is totally hackneyed. How many versions of it have been in movies and TV shows over the years? The same is true of the woman's struggle in the man's world. That's totally worn out. Boo.
This was really insightful. You did an amazing job of breaking this down for the outsiders. Bravo sir, you have earned yourself a subscriber lol
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
LD: You can't punch Islam.
The kid called Islam: *strong and maleficent laugh*
I'm not a fan of Kamala's origin story, but the basic idea- starting out as a fan of superheroes and then becoming a superhero, has potential. That happens all the time in real life, most people in sports and entertainment started out as fans. My problem, is that she hasn't grown, she hasn't evolved or changed. There is a world of difference between being a fan of something and then being IN that profession. She still acts like a dreamy fangirl yrs later. When will she be grow up and be allowed to face real hero challenges?
Yeah, if the story were done properly, she should have shown us her heroic side by the time the first issue ended. Even if she lost. Even if her heroic side is a little rough. She probably would be scared, but we should have seen her at least TRY to fight a villain or some kind obstacle that no normal person would ever try. Kind of like the scene in Batman v Superman where Bruce Wayne is running into the smoke of a collapsing building like everyone else is running away. Unfortunately, Marvel gave us nothing within the first issue.
My Hero Academia nailed this with the character of Izuku.
When Dawn of Justice writes a better hero than Marvel there’s something horribly wrong.
Watchface exactly on both accounts. Midoriya is a character that embodies a true hero whereas here, Kamala is not quite the same. She doesn’t exemplify a heroic trait.
BvS, despite its flaws has some excellent storytelling in some aspects if you pay attention. Even areas with poor execution have stronger meaning than what Kamala Khan shows.
The origin Idea of fangirl of superheroes becoming a super-hero has merit, IF only the character was heroic. You'd think Kamila Kahn would AT THE VERY LEAST attempt to imitate her role models in some way. And when it came down to brass tacks, it took someone else to fill in that role.
"Superhero needs something to punch and you can't punch Islam"
xD definitely I couldn't agree more
@Brandon Roberts True, but can you expect that from someone who tries to be PC all the time. Secondly that would make Islam evil XD
@Bobo Boy Islam is evil, do the research.
@@MetaKnight964 Islam is not evil at all, it's just very grey. Kinda contradictory. Like, women must get paid 1/2 of what men get paid but in order for a women to be accussed from infidelity you need 4 whitnesses without including the husband.
It's just weird.
@Mr. Fo'head My original comment was from 11 months ago, I've learnt a lot of things since then and now I couldn't agree more with what you said.
Islam (and Abrahamic religions in general) are indeed evil.
LD, With your permission, I'd like to incorporate some of your points into my High School English class. They way you articulate what makes a good story (as well as what makes a bad one) is excellent. I also thought it was hysterical. Please upload videos more frequently. I listen to them on my commute to and from work.
Go right ahead.
Hay, thanks for letting a student do that. It's a rare thing and I feel like an outsider ought to comment on it, not just the person it helps. You did a good thing there LD.
@@Sorain1 I'm always happy to help.
@@LiteratureDevil the hero we need..
Oh you did leave out the most important part of the truck of radioactive ooze. It also mutated 4 turtles and a rat.
dude made a bit of trolling and got himself kicked out from Heaven, best character backstory ever
Very well put. It's honestly tragic that the once great institution of Marvel Comics had been handed over to a band of far left progressive ideologues who are ruining not only it but the entire industry as well.
Ouch. Daredevil should be arrested for that costume.
He's blind. How would he know that
Conniving Dog Damn, you’re right. He probably had to dress himself. I feel so mean.
Disliked.
Sandwiches and Islam. That would make a good Indie Alternative band name.
Another good point to be made is the nice dynamic of matt murdocks/ battling murdocks selflessness. He stayed true to his word and sacrificed for his father because that's what his father did for him. In the same way matt sacrificed his dreams, battling murdock sacrificed what could've potentially helped dig them out of their hole. His father chose to sacrifice money (and possibly to his knowledge his life) in order to be a good example for his son. His father was always on the lookout for work and always pushed his son towards good grades in order to be a great father figure.
A good example would be Spiderman into the spider-verse where a fan of super hero becomes a superhero but still has all the essentials of a proper origin story.
A lot of these post modern stories lack villians, or use villians as one line jokes.
To a post modernist a society that doesn't agree with them is the villian.
"The conflict is inappropriate for the genre"
Perfect. SJW Marvel in a nutshell.
Stuff like Kamalas origin comic is why she has been rebooted five times in the span of five years.
Holy crap!
For real!?
The answer for your riddle:
Sacrifice.
Althought the answer is later on the vídeo.
You've brought tears to my eyes and joy to my heart.
Two things to talk about related to this video.
1st, as far as I am aware, it wasn't actually fate and random magic bullshit that gave Kamala powers, that mist is a thing from the Inhumans called Terrigen Mist that I think in a prior story, was released on the planet and that mist activates latent Inhuman powers in humans since Inhumans are just genetically altered humans. The super heroes she saw were merely hallucinations as she slowly mutated and gained her powers, it wasn't just Ms. Marvel, Iron Man and Cap showing up and magicing powers. This doesn't change the fact that she still got them out of nowhere, I am merely explaining what actually happened to give her powers.
2nd, you mentioning that Daredevil could be a potential role model for people who have lost their sight? I have heard that some people who are blind actually do enjoy Daredevil due to this. Besides that, I am partially blind in my right eye and have been told it would potentially worsen to the point where I am fully blind at some point in my life, and that scares me. One thing I really love about Daredevil is that he is blind, but he still can do all these things in spite of that. The super senses don't even muddy the waters as they come with their own handicaps since Matt is more sensitive to sound and smell so he can easily be overwhelmed by it. I actually am enamored with Daredevil because this fear I have of losing my sight is a non issue to him because through hard work, he pushed passed all of that to make a life of his own which is awesome. You were correct in him being a role model for people suffering from similar ailments.
The mist was a recent retcon, I think...but not certain.
Even if he did neglect to mention it, a book needs to stand on its own. The daredevil book he also reviewed didn't require the audience to have some special previous knowledge, and if it DID, they would have added blurbs explaining the important details. This is an origin story, not a spinoff, ya know?
@@skinnysnorlax1876 I agree, I was just saying that just so people were aware that it wasn't magic bullshit, there was an actual reason. Though apparently it was retconned so maybe it was just magic bullshit.
Partially blind is such a cop out.
@@emperorhadrian6011 Okay...? I mean, I am actually partially blind in my right eye, I can barely see out of it so I mean I am not lying but alright? Sorry for copping out with a physical ailment I didn't ask for...?
I think the issue is the concept of checking boxes; they're not writing a great character that happens to be a hero and a muslim, they're writing a muslim that somehow has to become a great character and a hero. While it is important to have representations of all walks of life, this shouldn't come at the sacrifice of good character development and storytelling. I don't give a damn if someone is supposed to be a muslim superhero if they're a dull blank that the author has told us is muslim; that's not just bad character development, you're moving into the realm of blatant pandering at that point. That said, it is a first issue, so I'd like to see if they're just trying to take their time with Kamala's growth into heroism, and not just trying to cram all the checks in on the origin issue.
Heroes can fit in this, especially today with how we deal with them.
A hero dies and we often see others gain from it.
Sir. I’ve been reading Comics since 1974. Your comparison was superb. Well done.
Thanks! Working on part 2 right now.
Long time viewer, just subbed. Really enjoy all your content. Love the Riddler and your choice for using him as the icon. Also Marvel LOVES to hide digital sales, the physical sales of Ms Marvel have always been bad but they say "digital sales are great" and that's hard to believe and/or prove....
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. And I'm not done yet.
Your best video essay yet!
You know what's a good comic? Judge dredd. Kamela Khan would have not lasted a day in mega city one
Ive never read Dredd. Any paticular run to look out for?
Hey now, Rob Schneider ma- in wait, he was arrested just after he arrived. nvm.
@@joshuatabor8755 Oh there are several hundred issues to go through buts that nature of a long running series. I can recommend some trades, like the dark judges, the long journey, necropolis, Mechanicum, the crossovers with batman. That stuff should give you a pretty good start.
LOL Neither would a whole lot of other SJW "heroes". The Judges do not play.
To be fair, Kamela Khan wouldn't exist there. The environment wouldn't produce who we saw. Even if she was in a mega wealthy family, (required to produce a home life even remotely as pleasant as Khans) reality would have knocked too hard on her proverbial door for what we see.
I'd be interested in an elseworld with that basic premise though, since most any writer would do SOMETHING with it.
Yo awesome video, but I'm missing the awesome background music. It's one of the things that drew me to this channel
Don't worry, it'll be back
@@LiteratureDevil yeah I want the music back to. It kinda feels akward
@@LiteratureDevil Thanks for the intro it was a nice little teaser for the main theme of this video. Awesome job man please never give up on this channel. You have something special man, keep at it.
Nice touch with the thumbnail, having the letters highlighted at the bottom spell out "NO."
You should've had that speech about the captain marvel movie in super small font size to fit in the bubble. Great video love your work because it really helps me improve my writing and story telling.
Another example of a lack of sacrifice in modern SJW comics; Amadeus Cho-Hulk, aka "BroHulk", aka "GogurtHulk".
Granted he gets his Hulk powers through noble means, trying to finally cure Bruce Banner of his Hulk-side, but there's NO sacrifice for him to deal with. He's still 13-year-old, mega-genius PoC/Korean Amadeus Cho, just able to turn big and green. Even when he gets stuck half-way it's no big deal because She-Hulk already got along with that, so why shouldn't he?
No rage issues, no loss of intelligence, not even any puberty-esque wild mood swings for him to deal with. He's just yet another 'young-super-genius' character and it's so BORING.
Oh god, don't get me started on what those lunatics did to She-Hulk. It hurts too much even now...
Agree, Amadeus Cho is a horrible Hulk.
I never loved a video so much in my life.
So the guy friend who defended her is the one who should of gotten the powers of Ms. Marvel? Hey it would of given a story and kept their SJW focus.
I hadn't thought of that, but that's true. He was much more deserving of powers than anyone else in the story. Too bad he's Italian and likes a girl.
I meant that the author could have focused on (and it pains me to say this) transsexual issues, but that would have required a more complex thought process.
@@LiteratureDevil In SJW world the concept of deservedness is discriminatory (literal) and thus insisting that it exists and that people deserve things based on certain requirements is oppressive. That's why he wasn't granted super powers.
@@Marcara081 "Stop working hard Daredevil, you're oppressing lazy people !!"
@@Marcara081 *Communist National Anthem Plays.*
Being both Female and a Native American I can state that these stupid new comics that force their agenda down everyone's throats are horrible.
I'm a female who started absconding some of my uncle's comic collection in the mid 70s, before a grandparent trashed them all. One of my favorite early heroes I collected was the second generation heroes on DC's Earth-2, like the original Huntress, daughter of Batman and Catwoman. It gave her a fascinating perspective on many topics, even with the standard Batman skill set, I always regretted that she was retconned into something else after Crisis. Even the Perez era Wonder Woman wasn't as engaging as she was just coming after of her ultra-feminist mod boring karate era.
I've had to stop collecting as career and family absorbed my budget, but I have not lost my interest in heroes: flaws, journies, and triumphs. We are all heroes of our own journies, but will we come through the belly of Campbell's beast and teach the hard-won lessons. Recent decades give short shrift to the belly: the tests and failures of heroes. They win no victory if they do't face real costs and defeat. But too many star characters of late (sadly, mostly the trumpeted new women like Rey and Danvers) are never tested to the breaking point to learn if they are made of steel or wood.
Lucas got it (despite other issues) and I should have expected his PT would be the failure of the hero's journey after the Skywalker ranch hosted Dr Campbell's documentary. The ST never got the hero's journey started. The hero's journey is such a simple core for storytelling, it's hard to see it dying. Hero became a term of mockery and contempt by the young or hip by the 80s, and that rot keeps spreading. SF and comics resisted but now its metastasizing there too.
I managed to miss comicsgate and sad puppies, dug in a corner of fandom where they were far away, TLJ broke that dam. Now all the heroes, from Who to Spock to Luke, are not just being forgotten, but belittled, smacked, and subtracted from, by jealous people who aren't good enough to make new iconic characters that speak to the audience the way they want.
They can't, because there is no journey. I see far more journies in amateur fan works than what professionals are putting out.
Funny how they market her as the FIRST muslim superhero, when Dust from the X-Men came years before.
I believe there were also other muslim heroes done in the 70s and 80s. But current comics want to forget the diversity of the past and pretend its a new thing.
Marvel seems to like to market that Captain Marvel is now A GIRL when its not that shocking. The second Captain Marvel was a black woman named Monica and she is still around to this day, but its been noticed how Marvel seems to hide her from the public. Perhaps because they feel Carold Danvers should be seen as a new thing instead of a second try.
Kismet was written 1941.
If they were to reread Decimation and start counting minorities and females and males, I think they could have just left it all alone. X comics have always had diversity. Dust's first appearance was 2002, a sooni muslim wearing a burqua
I just noticed how similar Kamala Khan's origin story is to Virgil Hawkins (Static Shock, the TV version), which in itself is part of the Peter Parker archetype. I think it works better for Static because it's streamlined. Virgil ends up getting powers after sneaking out to go to a social gathering, the difference is that Virgil disobeyed his parents because he's a teen. Kamala snuck out because she's a teen AND Muslim, the religious aspects seems so pronounced and important but in the grand scheme of things is actually just something else in the pile of crap teens (from their perspective) have to deal with. Its less an issue of content and more execution, if Kamala has more than just a single source of her struggles then her story would be much more balanced.
One thing I actually like about Kamala as opposed to Murdok is her utter normalcy. I don't see Matt Murdok as an actual person, in a way he's the idealistic Christian son. I can easily see Kamala as an actual person with her selfish arrogant teen flaws on full display. If only the first chapter focused on that rather than her religion. We expect Matt Murdok to be a hero, his personality and deposition makes it painfully obvious. Kamala on the other hand isn't a hero, but her journey is learning to become one (though I'd argue she's still too 'nice' for it to work). Kamala has so much more potential than Murdok (based only on their opening chapters), but the Ms. Marvel story is terribly mishandled.
That said, My Hero Academia completely dunk on anything Marvel has produced yet in terms of characters. The character arcs of Deku and Bakugo put Ms. Marvel and Daredevil (and most anything else produced by Marvel or DC) in terms of easy of consumption and depth.
I wouldn't give those chinese picture books that much credit. A lot of the stuff they do, they got from old Marvel and DC comics. I won't say they don't do it well- because, admittedly, they do- and they may blow stuff like America Chavez and Ms. Marvel out of the water (which isn't saying a whole lot, because they both suck ass), but they most certainly do not "Dunk on" stuff like gold/silver age Daredevil, and The Dark Knight Returns.
This is actually coming from someone who likes MHA.
Late reply but you really don't read daredivil or that much comics
*inhales smog* Damn, son! That's some good kush! I got superpowers and everything!
SJW: "Kamala Khan is the first Marvel Muslim superhero."
Dust: "Am I a joke to you?"
1:40 that's actually correct. We're vexed that they're being *_HANDED_* leading roles, and not earning them through merit and interest(ing stories)...
3:00 Kamalah Khan isn't the first muslim superhero though. Not even in marvel. That was Kismit. As for characters with star power, Monet St Croix, french Palestinian and member of the Xmen, and Soorya Kidar, or Dust, Afghani American. DC also had Simon Ba, a muslim green lantern. ALL OF THESE before Ms Marvel. And those are just the ones I can remember.
When a character is made to fill a checklist instead of to be a character a mistake's been made.
Mrs.Marvel is muslim to be advertised as muslim.
For comparison, Miles Morales isn't black to be advertised as black. He just is what he is.
The line on the cover calling the first issue "The most important comic of 2014" is an insult to anyone that can read, and is honestly proof that comicsgate is right. SJWMarvel as it's called sucks. It's all diverse not to be interesting and imagine it *ACTUALLY DIVERSE*, it's to fill out a checklist so it can be marketable to people that want a victim card.
The biggest problem with modern comics, other than the sjw stuff, is that the comics are written like movies or TV shows rather than comic books
It's because they're essentially all from the same formula based school of thought. They're taught what to write, not how to write. What to think, not how to think.
All part of the plan and it starts with "education"...
Problem with modern comic, they busy making diversity and unique characters intead enganging plot and writing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the old days a creator had to make the first issue a self-contained story because there was no guarantee that the creator would get to make a second issue for their character. If your character didn't sell well then they move on to the next person with an idea for a superhero.
This Ms. Marvel is 100% dependent on there being a 2nd issue because nothing happened in the 1st issue. To me, the author is basically saying that she can take her sweet ass time and drag this story out because her minority status makes her immune to termination.
Hmm, thinking about it, Kamala’s origin story could be kept (with some changes) and made to work, but the following stories would have to be like Booster Gold and would have to involve her learning what it actually means to have powers and be a hero.
This is my second video I’ve watched from this channel. The first was the Eastern vs Western Sotrytelling Styles video, which I watched right before this one. In yhis context, the new comic sounds like an eastern style while the old one sounds like a western one, regardless of quality, upon which I will not make judgment on because I haven’t read either. But I think this should be taken into account
That does actually seem to be the trend. New comic writers are using a more Eastern style because they're trying to emulate manga. However, they're falling short because they don't understand the style or the techniques behind them.
I agree with your review. I have some comments, however. I think the issues with Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) are the motivation and set-up aspect of her story. I thought she was a decent character in and of herself, as far as I think she is written more like a realistic female. I found it kinda fun to see her learn her powers and her geeky attitude was a bit endearing for me after issue #1.
Not knocking iconic female comicbook characters, though the "Men with boobs" writing issue where characters are just masculine women (Captain Marvel) is a legitimate problem and the SJW/Diversity group seems to only think that a woman is best empowered when usurping a man.
I think the heroic feminine is genuinely something to experiment with in writing. But again, she does not experience anything to earn her powers.
khamala Kahn s carácter had tons of potential,, hell it even became kind of popular because of that. A milenial trying to become like someone she admires has tons of way to become compelling...and it was….for a time even with the muslim stuff. But the balance broke and Marvel lose all of his story potential and replaced it with politics. Tons of great concepts wasted again and again. It s sad when gwenpool becomes one of your favorite comics, just because how shit everything else is..
The saddest part is that, as you said, everything she starts off doing could have been fine if she had a Peter Parker moment of nobility. People aren't perfect, and they make mistakes. You can make a hero relatable in that fashion. But you can't do it without showing their noble traits too. They started that entire story off with all of her negative traits and then super powers. Unless her creativity and "progressive" attitudes toward her religion were supposed to be good traits. You could spin them that way but there's better ways to show those. Don't have her sneak out. Have her stand up to her friend's more hardline parents who try to come down on her. Have her do it with a creative argument, maybe have her explanation be animated in a more childish style of art. Then smash cut to her room and her desk. She failed, and then she got home-locked by her parents. Maybe even for her protection. But the whole thing just feels too much like the friend she failed to help's situation. So in a combination of guilt and revolt against the wrong people, she goes to the party anyway. Gets mad that someone else saved her even, its reasonable with her guilt - she wants to hate herself atm. Then she gets her powers. And leave on a question for the next issue. What sort of person is she? The vengeful, beat up my friend's parents, kind? Even have her on the cusp of doing it, then have her back down and just hang out depressed somewhere. Then have a crime happen near to her. Maybe even have her save the assholes from the first comic. You can play all those human conflicts fine but you have to build her up and people won't let you do that if you spend an entire issue giving them no reason to care if you do. Currently there's no reason to care, she's a brat with super powers now. Who cares if she improves because she'll always be a brat. She's full Bakugou syndrome without even the childhood friendship to save her right now.
That's actually a very interesting premise.
@@trentmoore6947 Its probably incredibly incomplete. I engineered it from one review video and on the spot, and I'm not writer, but I hope the main point shined through within it.
Sjw characters are not humans. They are unable to express any basic human emotion, they never make any mistakes and they are always right. I don't know anybody who can possibly relate to them, except the author.
The writers, however, are human. There is an interesting story to be told there, I believe.
I wish Critical Drinker would comment on how boring of a party the one at 5:04 is
5:30 I am watching after Gina Carano got fired... this line is so perfect with that context.
Miss Marvel tries too hard to be like Spiderman without any of the memorable work.
Lmao at 5:30 xD
On the other hand, it's an interesting analysis, in fact, showing some character arc instead of being mired in this permanent "Simpsons-esque Status Quo" or character stagnation would do wonders for characters like Kamala, who, okay, she's introduced as a snotty teenager and stuff, but through the course of her experiences, and as a result of her receiving her powers she matures and becomes a better person, because at the end, superheroes are a metaphor for the transition to be a better person overall.
Yup. That's why I mention that Ms. Marvel #1 has a good set up and structure for a drama. But it isn't so good for a superhero series. And it is possible to have a character arc, character growth and drama while keeping true to the superhero genre and fit it all within the first issue.
None of this had to happen this way. None of the characters, nor their stories, had to suck this bad. Even with weirdos and first timers at the helm of art and writing (if you can all either either). It's infuriating.
So... I just realized that this video wasn't from two years ago, so I decided to leave a comment on how much I enjoyed it. It's good to see people pointing out that comic, novels or movies aren't about the superhero as a singularity, is more about said superhero doing the right thing eventhough he/she has possibly suffered more than the people he/she is saving, but ultimately it's the very reason he/she saves people.
P.s. Did I mention that I enjoyed this video?
Matt Murdock lived his life based on obligation, duty, and the honor of your word. Kamala Khan only lives for herself. So Daredevil tells us that honor and duty can make you a hero, and Ms. Marvel tells us that selfishness is to be rewarded.
Who needs worthiness when you are a privileged minority?
It's quite the remarkable feat for modern Marvel comics writers to not just make exceptionally terrible stories, but to make exceptionally terrible superhero stories without the heroism. It's literally in the name. But I guess not being able to read (or think) is a common writer mistake.
Kamala is just a small town girl, living in a lonely world.
Doesn't she live in New York?
Beautifully put. Murdock is a true hero and the fact that they aren't is the problem with the Mary Sues, both female AND male, that are prevalent in comics, film and almost all entertainment.
Coming back 4 years later and watching LD's videos now after what I have seen in movies and news is ... Surprisingly cathartic.
Good job, LD.