2023 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail VS. Lowrider ST
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2023
- In this video I compare the 2023 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail and the 2023 Harley Davidson Lowrider ST. I have been asked to do this for a long time but didn't realize until I did it, just how close these two bikes are.
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I know this won’t be a popular opinion, but I’d rather have the heritage Softail. More comfortable on longer rides and the engine performance isn’t that different. If I want fast I’ll add a slammed, stretched and turbo’d busa and actually have a fast bike. Haha
Holy smokes on the msrp! If u strongly disagree with msrp, let's all agree to not purchase these bikes.
I don't think you're a lone. A lot of Heritage fans out there.
@@glockster19 sure I wish they were cheaper, but when you look at other bikes within their class they’re not priced that differently. Plus - purchase price is only half the equation. Haley’s hold their value far better than any of their competitors.
@@glockster19 I'll buy a used bike that's 6 months old with 300 miles from a private individual over a brand new bike at a dealer any day of the week. I've worked at a harley dealer before and they're just as slimey as you'd think. They're worse even. They've lost their minds in Milwaukee and I'll let my wallet do the talking. I hope we all do this, because they've crossed the line. At the rate they're going they're going to end up like Budweiser. Surprised they don't have trannys in their ads. Probably gonna happen soon tho lol
I went with the 2022 Heritage a couple of months ago. It is a beautiful and responsive bike, in every way. Being 69, this is my forever bike that can do some light touring and around town cruising. I'm happy. I've own every kind of Harley there is and a lot of Japanese bikes and this bike impressed me to no end. I also own a 2018 Iron 1200, and an MT07 for a little carving work. I also own a Triumph hard tail chopper that I built 35 years ago. I've been around motorcycles my whole life and wont die without one.
Heritage and the Iron 1200 are two of my fave bikes!
Traded my 21 low rider s for 23 heritage 114 couldn't be happier
Heritage wins by a mile except for being 2.3 ms slower in a drag race and holding one hotdog less in the saddlebags. And best of all, it has contrast so it can be seen as something other than a black blob from across the street. Extra luggage capacity can easily and cheaply be added to the Heritage. Passenger needs a backrest anyway. Just add the luggage rack and you can take an extra suitcase full of stuff if you need it. I have one from HD that has wheels and a handle too. Slides/secures right over the passenger backrest. Comes with rain cover too. Brilliant!
I May be old fashioned 🤔 So I'll go With The Heritage , Just One Beautiful Bike , Love All that Chrome on It 😎👍
Nothing wrong with that!
Heritage for me. I prefer the style and I definitely like the floorboards for those longer trips.
I was waiting for a ST for weeks and could not locate one that wasn’t spoken for. One day I sat on a 23 Heritage in the showroom and that was it. I stepped down from riding a RKS because I wanted something a little lighter and more agile. This was it! Great video by the way. 👏🏼
And this is exactly why you should have more than one bike in the garage. Great video.
🎉As I said before, I am old school rock n roll man 39 years old and I love classic look and chrome - Heritage🙂
🎉Imagine Low Rider ST with chrome - will be cool🙂
I just bought a 2023 Anniversary Heritage (Heirloom Red Fade) she’s a beauty. Having Vance & Hines installed … I won’t get it until this weekend. Dammit! BTW, I traded in a 2021 Road Glide Limited; I was having difficulty at stops. I’ll be 71 in a few months - Don’t grow old!
Older is goid sir, beats the other option, just get a trike in 10 years. ha
@@leebrewer7394 it really depends on one’s perspective. I’m headed for a knee replacement after riding season is over. I do agree that not everyone gets to the golden years. It is what it is …
I am Old School And 64 years old ,And I would go for the Heritage Softail . That's just my personal feeling . I had a 1975 Harley Davidson FXE back then They called it the ( Freight Train ) And it was my first Harley And I loved it . Thanks for the Video Man .
Irish Heritage owner here..fell in love with the new Heritage after riding Route 66 and a bit more 2 years ago. Have arthritis in my hips and still found the bike very comfortable . I rode 3,300 miles in 12 days.
Just hit the Harley Truck here in Scottsdale and rode the Low Rider S for the first time- (someone dumped the ST I signed up for so no go that day 😑… did NOT like the Mid pegs set high up!!! My knees were up in my gut. No bueno. I took out a FatBoy and fell in LOVE! I find the LR gorgeous bug its SOO not for me. I also noticed there wasnt much torque in the first 2 gears but DAMN! When you get up in 4th that thing comes Alive! Some of us can fall in love with our Eyes but then it falls flat once ya take em out. (Kinda like dating strippers in my 20’s 😂) . Cool to see you pointed out some of the same points as Im finding each time i ride new bikes. Cheers buddy! Keep goin 💯🇺🇸
Love the Heritage 5 star rating
Two different bikes for two different customers. I would have to say though that if you’re looking for a very comfortable ride and a great sitting position, you can’t go wrong with the heritage.
I bought the 23 Heritage and am completely happy with it. I like how I can snap different windshields and fairings on it instantly. For long trips I bought a snap on aftermarket fairing and tourpack.
Which aftermarket fairing did you get?
Reckless fairing and it is just as good or better than the one that came on my Street Glide.
Great video. Informative, good shots, and right length. Thanks!
Well done! Very interesting and informative, would not have guessed the similarities in specs.
the Heritage for sure. love it.
I bought the 2023 gold heritage love it
Heritage all the way. You can keep the bags and windshield on or take them off. Looks mean with them taken off. Currently own a 2018 Heritage and my one complaint is the bags leak water in the rain which I solved by putting hard bags on my bike.
Good info to have, I've never ridden one in the rain. I wonder if HD is aware?
I have a 2020 Heritage. Where did you buy the hard bags?
Excellent videos this is what I was looking for.
These were the two bikes that I had narrowed my search down to and it was a difficult decision, but I went with the Lowrider ST and I love it it’s an awesome bike
Up until a week ago I was 2023 Fat Boy all the way. Now 66 and having two complete hip replacements I think I’d kick myself in the ass if I did not go for the Low Rider ST…that bike is SICK!
Love the looks of both, but yesterday I bought the Heritage. My wife rides with me and the type of riding we do the Heritage was the choice in Atlas Silver. It has the chrome package which I prefer. Good video 😎
Nice video and a fair comparison. I have a 2020 Heritage V107. I love it and if the windshield, bags and rear seat is removed the bike looks like the discontinued Deluxe minus the white wall tires.
I would choose the Heritage over the Lowrider ST. Rode a rented Heritage from Ft. Lauderdale to Key West and back to Ft. Lauderdale in a single day and it was a pleasure. From what I hear the 114 has plenty of power out of the box although I would probably go with a Stage 1 or Stage 2.
Great review bud , nice job.
I'm about to take my second 1,700 mile tour on my '23 FXLRST and I am all about it. Best thing I could have done was buy a small luggage rack for the back for a Sportster and modified it to fit over the back fender (since they still don't have too many options available as of yet). I legit love the f** out of my Lowrider. She's fast, nimble, and is a nice alternative to full-size bagger, which is what I didn't want. Sidenote: you have to detach the entire fairing if you want to add front engine guards, and spend and additional $150 for a signal relocator to do so. I found that out the hard way.
The Heritage is my kind of bike, it drives great and fits me with 6.3' well. I rode past october a gunship-grey lowrider st with floorboards ( maybe from a blacked-out 22 Heritage) , and I liked it a lot 😁😁😁.
Great video and review. Only thing I need to say is the heritage right bag is also smaller, ever so slightly and for the same reason is the exhaust. I never noticed it until I did true dual fishtails on my 2018 Heritage.
Nice video. I have both. Amazing models for all around use. Absolutely perfect for touring. Take care.
Thank you for such a detailed comparison.
( different bags sizes on ST left/right ! 😮 I didn’t know that…)
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I don't prefer the style of the Heritage, but when I tested the LRST, it felt very cramped. Plus, when flat-footed, my legs touch the hot areas of the ST. I thought the ST was going to be my dream bike, but it was very disappointing. I wish the Heritage had a fairing. I guess they make some aftermarket ones. ($$$)
Thank you for sharing this story! Low rider ST for me. Time to move on from my Fat Boy , but I can’t wait!!!
I’ve had both, traded in the Heritage for the ST. With the right modifications the ST is just as comfortable to me and I love it more than my Heritage.
The 117 and the updated style are awesome. Even so, I still like the old school stuff at times. I think I’d go for the Lowrider ST, but I’d also be happy with a Heritage.
i love my 2019 Softail Heritage only wish I went 114 over the 107 bc of the ST at 117 when they came out
I can't stand the dash on the Lower Rider ST, but otherwise like the bike. The heritage seems to be the better value for anyone wanting to do longer riders in comfort. Tough decision between the two.
always been a fan of the heritage
Great review.
Give me the Heritage any day.
Can that Heritage windshield get blown off the bike from a strong side wind or tailwind?
Also , on those Heritage bags with the sunken locks, do they leak in the rain?, looks like they can fill with water when parked.
Luv em both but gotta go with the Heritage. Bright wheel option along with motor and the vivid black is definatly classic. Brand newness of a 23 that still looks like a 93!
I went with the Heritage... at my age comfort won out over power
All about what you're doing. I've chosen the Heritage many times if I just want to get out and ride. Even bone stock that bike is so dang comfortable.
thanks good job i have the heritage but i want the st ill fix the bag issue haha
Question: does Herritage have factory option to move the front control to mid control, as Lowrider factory setup?
Classic styling. There. I said it for you. I love both. Same price range. Heritage bags look big. Kinda surprised.
What do you think of putting heel-shifters on either?
Had a heritage before love that old school look and stripped down they just have sexy ass lines
i've owned the '19 heritage 114 and the '23 heritage. its always been my favorite looking bike and its so damn comfortable. i had a '16 wide glide and i didnt like that near as much. for my height it was ve
I prefer the frame mounted fairing on the Lowrider ST.
Just substitute the word "HERITAGE" for classic styling. That styling exists for no other purpose than to harken back to the day. We old guys like saying those words, "Back in the day". The less electronics the better. My first bike was a 1864 XLCY Sportster. Breaks came with Rosary beads. When riding my Harleys all I wanted to hear was the engine's heartbeat, feel the wind and temperature changes and smell aromas as you'd ride past a freshly mowed field. I'm 78 and in great health and am about to buy my next (and likely, last) bike.. It will be bike #24 since high school. (1958-1962) It will likely be a Heritage.
We should hold out on buying due to the prices and all the upgrades you have to make them comfortable.
I'm still surprised that H-D discontinued the Deluxe. Perhaps it wasn't selling very well?
The ST any day of the week. The heritage looks like an old man’s bike. Studs on the seat and bags. Big ass windshield. Surprised it doesn’t have leather tassels oh the bars 😂😂
I really wish HD would do a version/option to do no studs just to see which one sells better.
@Throttle Blip No studs would sell better. I have a 22 Heritage and the first thing I did was ditch the bags and order a corbin seat.
I have both they are fun bikes. The Low Rider st is much more fun for spirted riding.
I’d prefer to go for the ST and look for an aftermarket fairing that offers more wind protection but isn’t as big and bulky around town.
Wheres that video of the drifting heritage
Heritage all the way!
Everyone talks about the asymmetrical bag on the ST. Can’t you just order a RH replacement bag from the Sport Glide if you are going 2 into1? They are the same I was told.
The Sport Glide did come with a different exhaust setup but still had the uneven bags. I get it's not ideal but I think people make a bigger deal out of it than it really is.
@@throttleblip9854I agree completely. I owned a Sport Glide and put 12000 miles on it. Different sized bags were a non issue for me. Fast forward to my Low Rider ST. Still a non issue. Take care.
I'd definitely pick the Heritage in that new orange-ish gold-ish color. Don't remember the name.
PROSPECT GOLD. I agree, waiting to see one in person!
Already have a Slim, so I would go with the LRS, not LRST
Just purchased a new '23 Heritage. I test rode a '23 Low Rider ST and it honestly felt uncomfortable to me.
They are the same bike period. Just a few differences with headlamps.
ST FTW.
lets GO!
my opinion.. but the Heritage all day and everyday :). and versatile.. take off that passenger seat, take off the windshield, take off the saddlebags if you like, all easily done, and bam, you got a different bike
Heritage classic the Swiss army knife from HD.
When is Harley going to move the license plate bracket below the taillight where it belongs??
In a perfect world id own both but id say yhe Softail would be a keeper and the Lowrider would be a "fun" bike.
Heritage for me but then I am I guess an older guy😪
st bags bother me got to be the same
Heritage
the heritage costs 4500$ more than the low rider st in germany. ridiculous
This really is no comparison. The heritage will be more comfortable, the low rider st. Will win in every other conceivable category, especially in the performance section. Looks are subjective other then that. But other then looks and comfort, it's not even close, the LRST dominates
The Heritage - each day all week long...
Harley putting the dash on the tank of their bikes has to be the most ridiculous thing. Why would they put someone on two wheels in the predicament of having to take your eyes off the road to look at the the information on your dash? Lol Harley as a brand is so greedy and you can see it in how they go about the components they use. Love the bike but man these bikes are expensive to begin with and you almost have to immediately start investing thousands more to upgrade the thing with things it should already come with!
Heritage all day I don’t care for performance and don’t like that faring
Low rider >
Heritage 😊 Harley cheap out on the ugly plastic bags in my opinion and on a lot of there models. The s.t would look better the out the bags and fairing 😮
The ST fairing is atrocious
harley davidson bud light all woke i will not buy a new harley fire the ceo for harley bud light ads
Not good enough I'm sorry bottom of the line bike s !!
I got a 2020 Heritage Special with a Wreckless batwing fairing.....done 5700 miles on the World Record Pokjer Run in 2021.....around town or long hauls....it's the perfect bike.
Beautiful bikes but in my humble opinion 2 VERY different bikes.
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