I saw this post on facebook and it is only going to be a matter of time. I am all for having a good time, but doing 50 mph around people on bike paths is eventually going to ruin the good times. The ban on ebikes in Manhattan Beach, CA goes into effect tomorrow. No longer allowed on bike paths or sidewalks same with Hermosa Beach. They put the blame on too many close calls with ebikers and the speed. Really bummed as I was looking forward to towing my kids on my D Class w/ trailer now we have to go on the street which puts us at risk given their trailer is wide. I can't emphasize enough for everyone to be courteous and respectful when riding your ebikes esp. on bike paths and sidewalks. Just because the bikes can go 30mph doesn't mean one should when there are pedestrians around. As ebikes become more and more powerful I'm afraid the complaints will increase and local cities will enact bans or laws that require us to have license, insurance, etc. The more we ride crazy the more the gov. will put the squeeze on us! We are all ambassadors for ebikers. Ride responsibly! Slow down when you see pedestrians or your city may wanna ban too.
I wonder if Manhattan Beach considered the close calls and fatalities associated with cars and their speed/size. Although I do think 30mph+ is way too fast for a bike lane, that really sucks that a city would ban ebikes. Only makes car traffic worse with more people on the road.
@@cindy7544 probably regular bikers and walkers complaining that there are too many ebikes dangerously zipping past them. All it takes is one city council member walking on a path and being offended by an ebiker. Not only is it more car traffic, but it is putting ebikers in serious danger having to ride on streets with cars and irresponsible drivers.
@@kevlarxkoffee You mentioned how cold it was. I had to run into the weather here to get water on my 212cc build which is a SixThreeZero extended frame bike and it was 42 degrees F. with a 12 mph head wind so that is cool. The bike will do over 70 mph but that is not safe on a bike. The cruise speed is usually around 30+ mph in the country and that does vary with the temperature and wind. The engine has no problem with the wind but the temperature can get you to drop that speed even with a Carhartt coverall and leather over that is the only thing that will block the windchill condition. I've had the bike going on 3 years now and it is a utility bike but if I need speed and power it is there. That size of engine requires a reliable set of mag wheels to handle it and there are fellas that try to use large spoked rims and they will not handle the torque and power of that engine I found out. The only way I'd ever go with another bike would be if it had motorcycle rims and tires. The Onyx has those and for a electric bike it really looks like fun and a reliable way to get motivated. I have my first bike build which has a 49cc 4-stroke engine and there is no way to run it in the country with 11+ mph winds. Although, the 212cc isn't affected by the wind because of the power it has. The 26" tires just raises you up too high so it will mess with you with oncoming trucks and cars. I think the Onxy is a fun way to ride and I would leave the 212cc for it's utility work of pulling a trailer and the Onyx for cruising on a Spring or Summer time jaunt around the country. Thanks for the review I am sold on this bike!
Thanks for the overview! Our company is a really small startup building the Bandit electric moped out here in Connecticut for the New York/ Boston scene. How have you all been handling getting a motorcycle license/registration/plate/insurance for the onyx? It falls under the motorcycle definition in every state and on a federal level. In New York, the fine for riding without a motorcycle license is up to 15 days in jail and the city is reallllly strict on ebikes now. Any comments would help! Eventually, we would like to begin shipping out of New England.
Hi Spark, From speaking to a Washington state (where I live) traffic attorney who researched this issue for me with our state department of licensing, there is no way to register an Onyx as it does not have a VIN. There would be nothing to keep a cop from impounding it if they wanted to. That’s why I went with a Huck as they provide motorcycle VINs.
@@joelpeterhanson thanks, that’s our conclusion too. We love Huck! They came on to the scene shortly after we did and also ended up getting VINs as you stated. To our research, we are the only two companies on the USA offering it. Ours was created under the “motor-driven cycle” category so no motorcycle license is needed. It’s expected that the 2hp requirement seen in almost all states, will be established as the national standard very soon. This is what happened with ebikes as they established the 1hp (750 watt) standards.
Lol The city you can murder and loot in and be back on the street the next day, but don’t let them catch you on an electric bike. PS I showed my barber one of your videos and had her do my hair like the blonde girl that works for you guys. My haircut was similar, but it’s now the best it’s ever looked So tell her Thanks
When you can make a video of what your everyday carry is when you go riding, also maybe talk about bike security. Your vids are entertaining as is. Keep it up
genuine question, how do you not get in trouble with police going that fast? does it have plates? where I live, if you go anywhere over the 28mph limit everyone that sees you will be very pissed off
Aye I know this bike trail!! I ride on this all the time maybe someday I'll see you I'm thinking of getting the onyx and I currently don't own a ebike but this is something I want to be my first
That speed is why I'd not get this. If it goes over 30 mph, do you not need a motorcycle license and insurance/ registration because it is a motorcycle/ moped? Does this even come with a vin to be able to register and insure it?
Class 3 bike. Has pedals. Don't need a license or registration. You can insure it if you want 💸 Contact the company for a vin. Watch all my ebike vids, don't be scared 🚴♂️💨😝
@@kevlarxkoffee you are wrong, 30 with a 750watt motor is top of class 3. but it only maters if you get pulled over (which is more likely with a bike that looks like a motorcycle going 50...)
Several things I prefer about the Super 73 are first at 70 pounds they are 1/2 the weight of the RCR, so you can load them in the back of your truck and move them around a lot easier. 2nd I like the fact that the Super 73 has pedal assist. I think that is funnest thing about it when you "Ghost Pedal" past a road bike at 28 mph without any effort! Also, I like the looks of the Super 73 better than the RCR. I have the Super 73 R, so it is almost $1K less expensive than the RCR also. The top speed of the Super 73 of 32 mph is enough for me around the city because you really can't take the RCR on the Interstate anyway because at 60 mph you will get run over by the semi-trucks. If you are going to get on the highway you better have a top speed of at least 80 mph. There is no way I would get on the highway with one of these little electric bikes anyway. You would be road kill in no time at all!
Good points. RCR is still a consideration, but I have been thinking that 30 mph is good enough for Chicago. Between pedestrians and potholes, it could get quite dangerous.
If you ride super 73, you need to be far right side. You can not take the whole lane since you are too slow and people are going to tailgate you or even honk at you. With onyx, you can just take the whole lane like a motorcycle. They might be thinking why the hell this bicycle is taking the whole lane at the stop light but you will be accelerating a lot faster than all other cars so....I won't pay $4k for onyx though LOL
How does the hyper scorpion do on hills? I live in a hilly area and most things I saw said you’d have to try pretty hard to make it a hill climber because they are so heavy; would you say it’s true?
I picked the Sur Ron over the Onyx. The lack of torque and little things like how the forks hits the wood on full turn also don’t get me started on the finicky battery cover. The Sur Ron suspension and huge aftermarket support was a big seller for me. Also I think the Sur Ron is more of a complete electric bike. As in if I wanted to do some mild street riding I can mount on my supermoto wheel set up and just have it in eco mode or switch to sport for some high speed riding. And I can take on trails or some pretty serious off road with the stock wheels because of the huge amount of torque it has. And just riding the bikes back to back the Sur Ron feels so much more agile in pretty much any situation. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for this 👍 I've been deciding on both but agree the aftermarket is why the Sur Ron is > then the Onyx. I'd like to know that I can upgrade it to 70+mph just because lol the ONLY thing that gets me is that the onyx is way more low-key :/
@@Gohsted yes Onyx is much more low key and less likely to get harassed by police in certain cities. But I’ve found that if your not riding like a hooligan on public crowded streets you won’t get harassed. But at the same time that’s why you bought a Sur Ron! Just have to be aware of your surroundings and pick out where and when you can ride more aggressively on the streets.
The biggest issue I noticed with Huck was the controller placement and how flimsy the seat looked. Best part is that you get many custom options prior to delivery. Also I did not like how th battery cannot be turned off if you take it off the bike.
@@davidorellana9322 the new Huck’s use Sabvotan controllers so it doesn’t poke out underneath anymore like the previous votol controllers. There’s a metal plate there now
Tbh I went through the same process looking at these bikes…however at the end of the day paying $4k+ for an ebike is insane. At that point you can get a used Yamaha R3 or even a Honda grom for that price. Don’t have to rely on limited small range and you can go way faster
It's really just personal preference. Try to convince the guy who wants a Tesla Model 3 to get a BMW for the same price. It really comes down to what you like 🤙
don't need to pay $200+ for morotcycle insurance. No need for gas. And getting 120 miles range on this ebike is about what you'd get for range on a mid-range engine sportbike
I love the onyx - but i actually just decided to order the Huck- Stinger.. cant wait for delivery! Not ruling out getting the RCR in the future either! 💯
Yo bro does the DRT kit does good in roads?. Because Iam looking to use it more on roads but I might go off roading sometimes. So what do you think is the best option for me?
I have the RCR, the look and build quality are awesome.....that being said, my only gripe is the WEIGHT....Why? I live in an apartment and have to roll the bike up the entrance steps with a small ramp because it is very top heavy. The Sur Ron is over 30% lighter and easier to bring inside.... and NO I'm not keeping these bikes outside for the thieves of the world to see (Also have the Monday Anza ordered,but have no idea when that will show up)
I remember when the Monday Anza first came out they was advertising 35 mph now it says 28 on the website l thought about buying one until they changed the speed on the advertisement,so l bought the 73R ,if you can remember when you get it can you let me know if it does 35 mph please
I’ll give it 2-3 months for your Anza. I have a Monday motorbike Anza 500w. It caps at 20mph on the website but yesterday it did over 20mph. I was a happy camper. It has phenomenal battery life. I reside in LA so I’m not tryna do the most with speed. It’s really fun riding, also it has pedal assist. I ordered my Anza mid Jan and received Mid March. If I want a higher speed I’ll buy a new battery with mods.
Does this bike require registration? It exceeds the classification of a Class 3 ebike. Based on the specs, under California law wouldn't it be considered a moped or electric motorcycle? While I think the "ebike" is awesome, it's bikes like these that create a need for new laws and regulations.
the limitation that i feel really sucks for class 1 2 and 3 is 750 watt motor. there are benefits beyond pure speed for higher watt motors even in a class 1 ebike (with proper max speed limiters)
I'm in Rancho Cucamonga, near the Victoria Gardens mall. If you check the map, you'll see some paths. But there's better ones out there. It's also along the way heading toward Vegas, so just stop out in the desert for some riding 😬
Yea it's a Standard with the DRT kit. I'm around 5'8 to 5'9. I'm fine on it, but I'd probably like the shorty more. Watch my other videos, I answer a lot of questions.
Looks cool. Just skeptical about the 80 mph, you'll prob only get a range of 20 miles using it. Their website doesn't give a lot of specs on the bike either. Doesn't mention if there's multiple riding modes, or even regenerative braking. Also for a bike to go that fast, it will prob have a vin number and need to be registered and plated? I like not having to pay for all of those right now 😄
@@ellestar2306 I ended up buying a Super 73 S2 and RX, sold them both, just ordered a Rad Runner 1, i like to pedal, the super 73 is a great bike if all u want to do is GO, but peddling on it actually hurts your ass on that seat for some reason, the rad runner has so many options u can do, holds tons of stuff, u can use it like a car, go to the store and pick up groceries lol
@@JerseyStyle7 wow you had a bunch of bikes. I'm glad you found something that better suits ya lifestyle. You can't go wrong with those Rads. What bike do you recommend for a commuter? 11 miles one way.
The seat could be a bit better. Maybe with a lil dip on it to form with the butt and to allow our feet lower. But I'm fine with it and have no issues 😬
These aren’t Ebikes at all. It’s more like an Emoped or Emotorcycle. I want one but please keep in mind that you aren’t a bicycle and should treat it like a motorcycle. You’ll ruin it for everyone eventually.
Its kind of annoying having an ebike because random people have the same three things to say and then walk away: 1) How fast does it go? 2) How far does it go? 3) How much? Then they split. That's the whole conversation. Every single time. Annoying as fuck. I am starting to ignore them now and ride off.
Well that's because the next question or impulse is to ride it and they know its a "no." But trust they are researching it when they get home. If you wanna have fun beat them to the questions and ask them how fast their pedal bikes go, how far and how much hahaha! Gotta have fun bro. That's a silly thing to get annoyed about.
Are all ebikes illegal to ride on bike paths where you're from?? If the ebike doesn't do more than 30mph it should not be illegal to ride on bike paths. I can easily do 25-30 mph on a standard bike.
@@Poteluz Class 2 in Nevada is 750w max 20mph operable pedals. E-bikes meeting those regs are treated as a bicycle and legal on bike paths. Best of both worlds for you. A 60mph electric motorcycle that you can ride on bicycle paths and only go 20mph. Got it.
@@zeroboyrick1717 ah ok so the speed limit out there is 30mph and this one goes up to 60mph. I just thought by the way you first responded that any ebikes riding on bike trails was illegal. I agree in regards to faster ebikes, to me once they can hit 40 mph or more there should be restrictions.
@@Poteluz Class 2 is the most common classification for bicycle path use across the US. People don't know what it is but they do know if it's going too fast so the end result is ban them all. It doesn't help when it looks like a motorcycle. I have a Sur-Ron it's frustrating.
And a trip to the DMV for a Class A License and monthly insurance payments upwards of $700 a year, gasoline, maintenance costs that are borderline insane. Whereas the E Bike does not have any of these costs.
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I saw this post on facebook and it is only going to be a matter of time. I am all for having a good time, but doing 50 mph around people on bike paths is eventually going to ruin the good times.
The ban on ebikes in Manhattan Beach, CA goes into effect tomorrow. No longer allowed on bike paths or sidewalks same with Hermosa Beach. They put the blame on too many close calls with ebikers and the speed. Really bummed as I was looking forward to towing my kids on my D Class w/ trailer now we have to go on the street which puts us at risk given their trailer is wide.
I can't emphasize enough for everyone to be courteous and respectful when riding your ebikes esp. on bike paths and sidewalks. Just because the bikes can go 30mph doesn't mean one should when there are pedestrians around. As ebikes become more and more powerful I'm afraid the complaints will increase and local cities will enact bans or laws that require us to have license, insurance, etc. The more we ride crazy the more the gov. will put the squeeze on us!
We are all ambassadors for ebikers. Ride responsibly! Slow down when you see pedestrians or your city may wanna ban too.
True, I need to be more careful with my speed runs when people are around. Thanks for the post 👍
@@kevlarxkoffee keep up the great content! Really enjoy your enthusiasm!
I wonder if Manhattan Beach considered the close calls and fatalities associated with cars and their speed/size. Although I do think 30mph+ is way too fast for a bike lane, that really sucks that a city would ban ebikes. Only makes car traffic worse with more people on the road.
@@cindy7544 probably regular bikers and walkers complaining that there are too many ebikes dangerously zipping past them. All it takes is one city council member walking on a path and being offended by an ebiker. Not only is it more car traffic, but it is putting ebikers in serious danger having to ride on streets with cars and irresponsible drivers.
@@kevlarxkoffee You mentioned how cold it was. I had to run into the weather here to get water on my 212cc build which is a SixThreeZero
extended frame bike and it was 42 degrees F. with a 12 mph head wind so that is cool. The bike will do over 70 mph but that is not safe on a bike. The cruise
speed is usually around 30+ mph in the country and that does vary with the temperature and wind. The engine has no problem with the wind but the
temperature can get you to drop that speed even with a Carhartt coverall and leather over that is the only thing that will block the windchill condition.
I've had the bike going on 3 years now and it is a utility bike but if I need speed and power it is there. That size of engine requires a reliable set of mag wheels
to handle it and there are fellas that try to use large spoked rims and they will not handle the torque and power of that engine I found out. The only way I'd
ever go with another bike would be if it had motorcycle rims and tires. The Onyx has those and for a electric bike it really looks like fun and a reliable way to
get motivated. I have my first bike build which has a 49cc 4-stroke engine and there is no way to run it in the country with 11+ mph winds. Although, the
212cc isn't affected by the wind because of the power it has. The 26" tires just raises you up too high so it will mess with you with oncoming trucks and cars.
I think the Onxy is a fun way to ride and I would leave the 212cc for it's utility work of pulling a trailer and the Onyx for cruising on a Spring or Summer time
jaunt around the country. Thanks for the review I am sold on this bike!
Thanks for the overview! Our company is a really small startup building the Bandit electric moped out here in Connecticut for the New York/ Boston scene. How have you all been handling getting a motorcycle license/registration/plate/insurance for the onyx? It falls under the motorcycle definition in every state and on a federal level. In New York, the fine for riding without a motorcycle license is up to 15 days in jail and the city is reallllly strict on ebikes now. Any comments would help! Eventually, we would like to begin shipping out of New England.
Hi Spark, From speaking to a Washington state (where I live) traffic attorney who researched this issue for me with our state department of licensing, there is no way to register an Onyx as it does not have a VIN. There would be nothing to keep a cop from impounding it if they wanted to. That’s why I went with a Huck as they provide motorcycle VINs.
@@joelpeterhanson thanks, that’s our conclusion too. We love Huck! They came on to the scene shortly after we did and also ended up getting VINs as you stated. To our research, we are the only two companies on the USA offering it. Ours was created under the “motor-driven cycle” category so no motorcycle license is needed. It’s expected that the 2hp requirement seen in almost all states, will be established as the national standard very soon. This is what happened with ebikes as they established the 1hp (750 watt) standards.
Lol
The city you can murder and loot in and be back on the street the next day, but don’t let them catch you on an electric bike.
PS
I showed my barber one of your videos and had her do my hair like the blonde girl that works for you guys.
My haircut was similar, but it’s now the best it’s ever looked
So tell her
Thanks
Holy crap I looked up this bike because I saw it on the street a few weeks ago and it was literally you 😂. I was getting boba too
🤣 I think every time I get boba or coffee someone is asking about the bike. I might be the only one here with this lol.
It doesn’t make any sense to me when comparing a 5k bike with a 2k bike!
IMO - Best Onyx review thus far! Let's gooooooooo!
When you can make a video of what your everyday carry is when you go riding, also maybe talk about bike security.
Your vids are entertaining as is. Keep it up
genuine question, how do you not get in trouble with police going that fast? does it have plates? where I live, if you go anywhere over the 28mph limit everyone that sees you will be very pissed off
Aye I know this bike trail!! I ride on this all the time maybe someday I'll see you I'm thinking of getting the onyx and I currently don't own a ebike but this is something I want to be my first
That speed is why I'd not get this. If it goes over 30 mph, do you not need a motorcycle license and insurance/ registration because it is a motorcycle/ moped? Does this even come with a vin to be able to register and insure it?
Class 3 bike. Has pedals. Don't need a license or registration. You can insure it if you want 💸 Contact the company for a vin. Watch all my ebike vids, don't be scared 🚴♂️💨😝
@@kevlarxkoffee you are wrong, 30 with a 750watt motor is top of class 3. but it only maters if you get pulled over (which is more likely with a bike that looks like a motorcycle going 50...)
@@viardent8823 depends where u live. Completely legal to rip in NYC, no registration either.
Riding that fast on bike trails is seriously going to mess it up for the rest of us…..
The Onyx isn’t at that price range anymore? It’s been around $4k for awhile. That’s also being the base model.
Several things I prefer about the Super 73 are first at 70 pounds they are 1/2 the weight of the RCR, so you can load them in the back of your truck and move them around a lot easier. 2nd I like the fact that the Super 73 has pedal assist. I think that is funnest thing about it when you "Ghost Pedal" past a road bike at 28 mph without any effort! Also, I like the looks of the Super 73 better than the RCR. I have the Super 73 R, so it is almost $1K less expensive than the RCR also. The top speed of the Super 73 of 32 mph is enough for me around the city because you really can't take the RCR on the Interstate anyway because at 60 mph you will get run over by the semi-trucks. If you are going to get on the highway you better have a top speed of at least 80 mph. There is no way I would get on the highway with one of these little electric bikes anyway. You would be road kill in no time at all!
Good points. RCR is still a consideration, but I have been thinking that 30 mph is good enough for Chicago.
Between pedestrians and potholes, it could get quite dangerous.
So for $1k more you get a bike that's twice the weight, but also twice as fast with twice the range.
If you ride super 73, you need to be far right side. You can not take the whole lane since you are too slow and people are going to tailgate you or even honk at you. With onyx, you can just take the whole lane like a motorcycle. They might be thinking why the hell this bicycle is taking the whole lane at the stop light but you will be accelerating a lot faster than all other cars so....I won't pay $4k for onyx though LOL
You speak the truth as to the speed/mileage hype I have a Hyper Scorpion. These bikes are ment to ride there is no fun otherwise. Keeping it real.
How does the hyper scorpion do on hills? I live in a hilly area and most things I saw said you’d have to try pretty hard to make it a hill climber because they are so heavy; would you say it’s true?
@@synible they go 30 mph uphill peddling
So dope
Nice Thanks yea like just having that power option....yes the style is futuristic. The future is here finally
I picked the Sur Ron over the Onyx. The lack of torque and little things like how the forks hits the wood on full turn also don’t get me started on the finicky battery cover. The Sur Ron suspension and huge aftermarket support was a big seller for me. Also I think the Sur Ron is more of a complete electric bike. As in if I wanted to do some mild street riding I can mount on my supermoto wheel set up and just have it in eco mode or switch to sport for some high speed riding. And I can take on trails or some pretty serious off road with the stock wheels because of the huge amount of torque it has. And just riding the bikes back to back the Sur Ron feels so much more agile in pretty much any situation. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for this 👍 I've been deciding on both but agree the aftermarket is why the Sur Ron is > then the Onyx. I'd like to know that I can upgrade it to 70+mph just because lol the ONLY thing that gets me is that the onyx is way more low-key :/
@@Gohsted yes Onyx is much more low key and less likely to get harassed by police in certain cities. But I’ve found that if your not riding like a hooligan on public crowded streets you won’t get harassed. But at the same time that’s why you bought a Sur Ron! Just have to be aware of your surroundings and pick out where and when you can ride more aggressively on the streets.
The new Sondors metacycle looks sick! 😁
I was thinking the same way you do I keep going back to the Onix.i like the speed and the look.
Got my onyx yesterday and it is an awesome ebike!
What about the Huck stinger?
The biggest issue I noticed with Huck was the controller placement and how flimsy the seat looked.
Best part is that you get many custom options prior to delivery.
Also I did not like how th battery cannot be turned off if you take it off the bike.
@@davidorellana9322 the new Huck’s use Sabvotan controllers so it doesn’t poke out underneath anymore like the previous votol controllers. There’s a metal plate there now
Dude I know where that’s @ my cousin lives close by. Next to Alta Loma hs. Enjoyed your video.
60s isn't cold. That's summer where I'm at. Haha
Lol 🥶
It probably feels colder dog riding on the bike and the wind hitting you
@@erikedward283 that part.
Anyone checked out the Rumble Air, especially in comparison to the Monday Anza?
Why didnt u buy a tube bender a welder and buid it yourself?
Very nice onxy and it have the different speed cool
Tbh I went through the same process looking at these bikes…however at the end of the day paying $4k+ for an ebike is insane. At that point you can get a used Yamaha R3 or even a Honda grom for that price. Don’t have to rely on limited small range and you can go way faster
You’re paying for the idea and it’s relatively new they’ll get cheaper as time goes by
It's really just personal preference. Try to convince the guy who wants a Tesla Model 3 to get a BMW for the same price. It really comes down to what you like 🤙
don't need to pay $200+ for morotcycle insurance. No need for gas. And getting 120 miles range on this ebike is about what you'd get for range on a mid-range engine sportbike
Can you take a passenger on the onyx
I love the onyx - but i actually just decided to order the Huck- Stinger.. cant wait for delivery!
Not ruling out getting the RCR in the future either! 💯
Yo bro does the DRT kit does good in roads?. Because Iam looking to use it more on roads but I might go off roading sometimes. So what do you think is the best option for me?
I have the RCR, the look and build quality are awesome.....that being said, my only gripe is the WEIGHT....Why? I live in an apartment and have to roll the bike up the entrance steps with a small ramp because it is very top heavy. The Sur Ron is over 30% lighter and easier to bring inside.... and NO I'm not keeping these bikes outside for the thieves of the world to see (Also have the Monday Anza ordered,but have no idea when that will show up)
Yea it's definitely heavy. But compared to my Honda Grom, it's lighter lol. Yes, I keep my bike inside also. It cost too much 🤑
I remember when the Monday Anza first came out they was advertising 35 mph now it says 28 on the website l thought about buying one until they changed the speed on the advertisement,so l bought the 73R ,if you can remember when you get it can you let me know if it does 35 mph please
@@chrisMc1972 I believe I recall that as well....i will update when I receive and try it out👍
I’ll give it 2-3 months for your Anza. I have a Monday motorbike Anza 500w. It caps at 20mph on the website but yesterday it did over 20mph. I was a happy camper. It has phenomenal battery life. I reside in LA so I’m not tryna do the most with speed. It’s really fun riding, also it has pedal assist. I ordered my Anza mid Jan and received Mid March. If I want a higher speed I’ll buy a new battery with mods.
Does this bike require registration? It exceeds the classification of a Class 3 ebike. Based on the specs, under California law wouldn't it be considered a moped or electric motorcycle?
While I think the "ebike" is awesome, it's bikes like these that create a need for new laws and regulations.
the limitation that i feel really sucks for class 1 2 and 3 is 750 watt motor. there are benefits beyond pure speed for higher watt motors even in a class 1 ebike (with proper max speed limiters)
These type of “Ebikes” aren’t really Ebikes they are more like Emopeds. They have a place on the road but they aren’t bicycles at all.
Wow you got a good price compared to the ones out now.
Seems like a real smooth ride
30 isn't even that slow also where I'm at you can ride a regular bike in the street
How many times have you been pulled over?
On my bikes...none. In my car, 4 times. Thrown in jail once 😝 I'll show it on camera if I ever get pulled over 🚔
i thought i saw you on the pacific electric trail one time. nice
The bike trail's like 10 minutes away from my neighborhood
Where do you live? Those mountains look nice😍
In Rancho Cucamonga, CA 🏔
I live in Rancho too. I immediately recognized that path.
@@kevlarxkoffee did you get your onyx any faster - being that the onyx HQ is located in Sugundo too?
You do videos on the Onyx and Grom?
Yesssirrr
I live around there, I have a 30 mph ebike, maybe we should meet up sometime.
I sold my ebike lol. I put up a video talking about why I sold it 🙃
@@kevlarxkoffee oh damn.........
@@kevlarxkoffee how much did you sell it for?
Where are these bike paths located that is so awesome when I go camping out west I got to check those out👍👍👍👍also subscribed to u👍
I'm in Rancho Cucamonga, near the Victoria Gardens mall. If you check the map, you'll see some paths. But there's better ones out there. It's also along the way heading toward Vegas, so just stop out in the desert for some riding 😬
Looks amazing around there we don’t have bike paths like that in Jersey
Spokes will loosen under power; the cast rims are a good investment.
Hey bro! That bike is a standard right? And how tall are you? And how is the ride height for you?
Yea it's a Standard with the DRT kit. I'm around 5'8 to 5'9. I'm fine on it, but I'd probably like the shorty more. Watch my other videos, I answer a lot of questions.
I wouldn’t consider it being called pulled over if your on the sidewalk
What do you think about the Sondors metacycle?
Looks cool. Just skeptical about the 80 mph, you'll prob only get a range of 20 miles using it. Their website doesn't give a lot of specs on the bike either. Doesn't mention if there's multiple riding modes, or even regenerative braking. Also for a bike to go that fast, it will prob have a vin number and need to be registered and plated? I like not having to pay for all of those right now 😄
Does it have turn signals ? Been looking at this bike for a while. My 1st E bike was the lectric xp :)
Turn signals can be added on for an extra $200. Kinda pricey. Never heard of the lectric xp, going to look it up 😬
Ashley F, I also have a Lectric XP though it’s a great bike for a starter or a second ride it’s more for the RV retirement crowd.
I bought a Sondors fold 4 yrs ago, i’m looking for another one now, might get the new Madmods, or this onyx looks awesome 😎
I hate that sondors has only done one PR review on the mad mods. Just can’t wait to see the first batch ship in late March to finally see the product
Did you end up going with the onyx?
@@ellestar2306 I ended up buying a Super 73 S2 and RX, sold them both, just ordered a Rad Runner 1, i like to pedal, the super 73 is a great bike if all u want to do is GO, but peddling on it actually hurts your ass on that seat for some reason, the rad runner has so many options u can do, holds tons of stuff, u can use it like a car, go to the store and pick up groceries lol
@@JerseyStyle7 wow you had a bunch of bikes. I'm glad you found something that better suits ya lifestyle. You can't go wrong with those Rads.
What bike do you recommend for a commuter? 11 miles one way.
@@ellestar2306 any e bike will do, but the Sondors fold is a good bike, or the Rad Runner
So sad I missed that audio bro 😅
How is the seat? I always had issues with bike saddles
The seat could be a bit better. Maybe with a lil dip on it to form with the butt and to allow our feet lower. But I'm fine with it and have no issues 😬
@@kevlarxkoffee Nice, thanks
onyx is imo the coolest, but just too damn expensive
Why
Why is onyx better than surron
Let’s say aside from range since you can always upgrade batteries on both.
I like the bike, but super lame to be going 50+ MPH on a bike path with people leisurely walking.
Another cool toy 👍
Cheers mate
I was going to buy a premade bike it would be a Huck or this one💯👍👍
You should also check out the Rumble Air, and Ristretto 303
Ariel rider grizzly v.2 sir.
Damn No cup holder 🥲
Yea I should buy one. Looking up some now 😬
Wow
These aren’t Ebikes at all. It’s more like an Emoped or Emotorcycle. I want one but please keep in mind that you aren’t a bicycle and should treat it like a motorcycle. You’ll ruin it for everyone eventually.
Its kind of annoying having an ebike because random people have the same three things to say and then walk away:
1) How fast does it go?
2) How far does it go?
3) How much?
Then they split. That's the whole conversation. Every single time. Annoying as fuck. I am starting to ignore them now and ride off.
Lol it's true 🤣
Well that's because the next question or impulse is to ride it and they know its a "no." But trust they are researching it when they get home. If you wanna have fun beat them to the questions and ask them how fast their pedal bikes go, how far and how much hahaha! Gotta have fun bro. That's a silly thing to get annoyed about.
Forgetting about Huck cycles
Congrats on your electric motorcycle purchase. Riding it illegally on bike paths is screwing the e-bike community and getting us banned.
Are all ebikes illegal to ride on bike paths where you're from?? If the ebike doesn't do more than 30mph it should not be illegal to ride on bike paths. I can easily do 25-30 mph on a standard bike.
@@Poteluz Class 2 in Nevada is 750w max 20mph operable pedals. E-bikes meeting those regs are treated as a bicycle and legal on bike paths. Best of both worlds for you. A 60mph electric motorcycle that you can ride on bicycle paths and only go 20mph. Got it.
@@zeroboyrick1717 ah ok so the speed limit out there is 30mph and this one goes up to 60mph. I just thought by the way you first responded that any ebikes riding on bike trails was illegal. I agree in regards to faster ebikes, to me once they can hit 40 mph or more there should be restrictions.
@@Poteluz Class 2 is the most common classification for bicycle path use across the US. People don't know what it is but they do know if it's going too fast so the end result is ban them all. It doesn't help when it looks like a motorcycle. I have a Sur-Ron it's frustrating.
And, you sound moist to the people reading this…..
Huck Cycle.
for this price u might as well just get a motocycle
Yeah, if you want to pay registration and insurance every year.
And a trip to the DMV for a Class A License and monthly insurance payments upwards of $700 a year, gasoline, maintenance costs that are borderline insane. Whereas the E Bike does not have any of these costs.
surron only real motorcycle in this list pwhahaha