Optima has superior geometry and build quality. Own both and the Top Force joins my Avante on the shelf. It's too fragile in engineering though they're both beautiful
Hey, thanks for watching the content. I agree with you they are both beautiful but I found the Top Force far better suited to my back yard track. While the Optima Mid is far better build quality the set up required to get it going seemed a little harder than the TFE which hit the ground running out of the box. I am sure on a different track, on a different day it would be the other way round. Either way it is amazing that we can enjoy both of these classic RCs brand new out of a box in 2025! 😎
Hi there Craig and thanks for another very interesting comparison video! I must say I'd be chuffed to own either of these beautiful buggies. As to which will be the fastest and the toughest, we will sure find out this season at the OR! Great discussion and overviews, mate. See you soon! 😎👊👍
Hey Mark, I really enjoyed sitting down and bringing these down to compare! I think this class is going to be the hottest one on the OR for 2024! Thanks for watching pal 🙌🏻
Even as a Taniya man at heart, I must say that the Optima Mid takes this comparison for me! The Top Force Evo looks great, no doubt 😍, but there just is something about the Optima!🤩
Hey Toby, I know what you mean pal. It was a sensational build compared to the Top Force Evo. However, I think the Top Force feels faster. Can’t quite put my finger on it. I am hoping to get them both up on the track in the spring for a shake down ahead of the season starting properly!
@@theoagrc Just wondering - which is the heavier buggy? The Optima comes across as the heavier one to me...? Also a thought and suggestion for a future category of racing - brand equivalent opponent duels - could be interesting 😊
@TheTobyT I will try and weigh them over the weekend Toby. I expect the TFE to be lighter though due to the carbon chassis plate. Could be wrong though….
Hey Mauzy, it is going to be a very interesting division. I am expecting nothing but awesome laps from all the vintage 4wd models but ones of these two will surely be victorious 👍🏻
Hi there Maruis, thanks for watching. The Evo can be found if you shop about pal. If you don’t mind imports there are a few UK shops with stock. The Mid is a beautiful RC though and I can’t wait to see how these get on in my backyard tournament this year. All the best dude 🙌🏻
I run both for quite some time and more or less I agree with you. The optima is definitely able to handle a modern brushless motor while the top force (which btw is my favorite vintage buggy) has a hard time, even with the super stock motors. Top force has a huge plus though which is access to the diffs, making maintenance a quick job. With all kyosho vintage buggies you need to take half the car off to access the diffs making them more suitable for bashing rather than racing.
Hey George, that is great to hear. I think that the Top Force is going to edge it but they are both a pleasure to have built and own. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
Cheers George. I agree with the access to the internal gearboxes. I do need to tweak the diffs on the Mid and I am not looking forward to that exercise if I am honest! The Top Force Evo is a brilliant drive though. They are both fun but there is something very special about the Top Force
Yeah dude!! Classic RC Icons for an RC Icon brother 🙌🏻 thanks for watching Keith. I can’t wait to put these against the Hotshot and the Thunder Dragon in a vintage 4wd division this summer. The TD went so well out on the OR but I am expecting one of these to deliver big time!
Thanks for all the great info on these two iconic buggies, Craig. I have a feeling the 2024 OR showdown will boil down to these two, and who's going to win? Oh man, I can't pick a winner... I want to say the Top Force EVO will win, but the Kyosho is so capable, it's really anyone's guess. I can't wait to see them turning laps!
Hey Fil, it will be one of the for the title this year. I think it is going to be the Top Force Evo but man I love that Mid!! Ideal situation would be a dead heat 😂🤣
Very nice comparison video. They both look so nice. Now that you’ve run the Top Force, you might want to check the diffs. My rear one loosened a bit after the first run. It would be sad if your Top Force run on the Orchard Raceway got ruined by a loose ball diff.
Great advice and I will get in there and give them a tighten up. We don’t want a repeat of the Cougar when it struggled for two seasons with diff issues (coming back strong for 2024 though!!!).
Friday- Everyone drops a video!!! 😂 Went straight to this one first! 🥇 What a great detailed comprehensive summary of these two timeless rc icons Craig! Very well put together, especially enjoyed the links in the time line/what other things were available at the time, all very accurate info! Those wheels look sooo much better on the Evo, they make it look much more aggressive and track worthy. I love the look of it from the side and the rear, but the front view of this car is a total abortion.... sorry mate, just my own personal opinion! (can't remember who termed the phrase 'squashed frog!) 😂 But, I'm sure it drives well, as do all the top force family. I definitely prefer the more traditional look of the Mid, especially with the way you have finished that one,gorgeous livery! I'm predicting the Mid to have the edge out on the track though mate. Although I have not built my Mid yet, I would definitely say my optima turbo out performed my top force in every way..... and the Mid is allegedly better than the Turbo! But who knows.... I'm certainly looking forward to seeing them battle it out on the track! Wouldnt it be funny if the hot shot came out on top?! 😂 Would love to see an Egress, and Avante in the mix to.... but understand there has to be a limit to the amount of contestants! 😂 Great presentation buddy, guna watch it again I think! 👍 👍 👍
Hey James, thanks for making my video first Friday night stop! I loved making this one and these two are a pleasure to have built and soon drive. I agree with the squashed comment on the Evo but from the side it just looks awesome! The Mid looks more like a traditional RC and a great looking one. Who will win…. Hotshot or Thunder Dragon would be an upset but I bet I can push them harder having driven them a few times already round the OR. Who knows… only the RC Gods 🙌🏻
Hey there Craig! Absolutely stunningly handsome cars right here. It’s almost as these these two destined to meet even though their perspective timeline don’t exactly align perfectly. I feel like the Tamiya might be a tad faster but with that ultra low CG on the Kyosho, I feel like it’s going to be a bit more stable around the corners and running away from any jumps. If the ground is “loosie goosie” and torn up, than the Tamiya looks to have the ground clearance to trudge through the finish first. Of course this is just going on what I see. I’m not betting any under valued American dollars on either of these!😝 Aesthetically, wow, this is tough. Both really are pleasing to my wondering eyes👀. If I were going to keep one that I’d want placed on my bedroom shelf and be the first thing that I see when I wake up and the last thing I see when I go to bed, and I can’t have both at the same time…😫🧐, I’d have to say … Hello Kyosho! Excited for all this to go down!
Hey Robbie, I think I agree with your assessment on these dude. The Top Force is going to be slightly ahead out on the OR but the Optima Mid just looks stunning. Although the silver wheels on the TFE are a sight to behold 😍 Thanks for tuning in brother 🙌🏻
Two great cars, i’ll be adding the topforce evo to my fleet this year hopefully. But as its going to be a custome build. Its going to be a while until its built and running 👍 great video, look forward to seeing them on the raceway 😎
Hey Richard, the Evo is a beautiful car and you can just tell it is a real treat. However, general feedback is that the Optima Mid will still be better!! I can’t wait to find out 😁
@@theoagrc yeah, my moneys on the mid. Running my long wheel base mid next weekend at the euromasters in leeds, cant wait. Then its pretty much get the cars ready to head outdoors racing 😎
Great comparison video Craig! They both look amazing, congratulations on the work you did building these two!👏 I don’t know if I could pick a favorite.🤔 I really like the wheels you put on the Evo! I feel like the Kyosho would win in a head to head but I’ve felt that way the past two years here at the raceway and my Thunder Dragon by the narrowest of margins defeated the Javelin….. It should be an absolute joy to watch! Now if only race season were here already! Fantastic content Craig!👍😊
Hey Jeremy, thanks for watching dude! Could you imagine if the Thunder Dragon turns out the win again these two?? As you say it has happened and will probably happen again!! I can’t wait for our seasons to start again dude. As always I will be tuning in over at the windy hills to see how your fleet gets on in 2024 🙌🏻
Hey great presentation Craig. I'd say that the Top Force is the best looking out of the two. Be interesting to see how they do on the track. Cheers mate 😁👍👍
Hey Pete, thanks for watching buddy. I am excited to get them both out on the track later this year and I think it is going to be a very interesting battle. Will the Thunder Dragon beat them both in a cruel twist of fate though??
Those gold shocks are nice but the Hi-Caps are on another level. I have some Tamiya big bores for another project in the coming years and I can’t wait to build those bad boys!
I think they both look great in different ways, what I find interesting is that the Terra Conqueror/Blazing Star (which I had) actually have a very similar body to the Optima mid in shape. This isn't helping my desire to get a TF Evo that I dreamed of when I was young, even if it's just for the build!
Wait until you see it competing in the Orchard Raceway later this season!! I enjoyed building both but a few months on it is the Top Force I keep coming back to
They really look the nuts together, bloody lovely! I’m tellin’ ye, the Turbo Optima would be just up your alley if you enjoyed the Mid build. Indeed, the Turbo build for me was even better than the Mid and there’s loads of extras chucked in. I now love Kyosho which I never really cared for as a kid. However, I owned a coupe of old knackered ones but only for a short while each. If never built one until recently and it was live at first build. :)
My first RC was a Kyosho Raider and I always wanted more Kyoshos. We had a bunch of old magazines as kids and the Hotshot and Optima/Mid were the cars we talked about. I am pleased that both are now part of the OAG fleet of cars. I do want to add the Optima to the fleet at some point but there is a queue at the moment 😂 The Turbo is high on my want list but I do also like the Javelin 😎 Thanks for watching pal and keep an eye on the channel as these two will be going head to head on the Orchard Raceway over the summer!!
My vote is on the Optima Mid but I'm biased. Never had the pleasure to own, build or drive a Top Force (evo) and my first "real racer" BITD was a pre official import Japanese Optima Mid turbo. As the orchard raceway is missing a long straight the longer wheelbase of the Top Force isn't that much of an advantage IMO. The almost square footprint of the mid goes around corners as a pro. Will be close call anyway, looking forward to the 2024 season.
Hey Stef, thanks for your insightful comment my friend 🙌🏻 Now it is going to be interesting as the OR is getting a facelift for 2024. I wonder if the new layout will give the Top Force an upper hand???? I can’t wait to get filming. Optima Mid Turbo 😍
Nice showdown. Impossible to choose 😊 Performance wise, it's down to your track, quite tight, so in theory, a shorter wheelbase should perform a little better. But that's all theory. There also the question on how the tyres will perform... one thing for sure, it will be interesting 👍👍👍🤝
Hey dude, it is going to be fun finding out who runs better…imagine if the Thunder Dragon holds them both out round the OR!! I can’t wait to get started for the season. Thanks for watching pal 🙌🏻
Get some screw drivers out and start building! Could also be a TA01 as it shares some of the same parts too. Missing parts can always be hunted down and you can get reproduction bodies from a few places. Feel free to drop me a email with some photos if you want some help 👍🏻
Kyosho was light years ahead of tamiya at those times. Fast forward, the lwb mid when set up properly can compete with modern buggies. Tamiya made a few good looking buggies but they were over engineered or just lack race genetics. At the time end of the day,, Kyosho was dominating the tracks back then.
looks like you've fitted modern narrow front 4WD wheels as the original tyres same width f&r need same width wheels. Lots of choice of modern narrow 4WD front tyres would look and drive better. Prefer the Kyosho Optima as it still looks vaguely scale-realistic, Tamiya has the swoopy style edge though.
Hey 👋🏻 I was thinking the same when I was looking at them. I ordered these specifically for the Optima Mid and was surprised to see the tyres didn’t work with them. I have some different tyres and might give them a blast. I think that they’ll probably work better out on the Orchard Raceway dirt than the kit ones. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
Kyosho was light years ahead of tamiya at those times. Fast forward, the lwb mid when set up properly can compete with modern day buggies. Tamiya made a few good looking buggies but they were over engineered or just lacked real race genetics. At the end of the day,, Kyosho was dominating the tracks back then.
No contest then, no contest now. I raced in the 80s-90s and I can confidently say that Top Force is NO legend (Egress NO legend too). The only 4wd that can compete with Optima Mid plaftorm ( up to Lazer ZX-RR) was the Yokomo Dogfighter. Tamiya became competitive starting with TRF501x. I have these cars
Hey there Percy. Now that is the comment I was looking for!! Optima Mid for the win 🥇 However you now have me looking at those Dogfighter rereleases again 🤔 Problem is there is only so much space for RCs! I would love a TRF501 but the closest I am going to get is a DF-01 sat in a box waiting to be unleashed on my Orchard Raceway. Many thanks for watching 🙌🏻
@@theoagrc I wish you all the best - win races with it. Belt drive dominated races during those years and it was the Associated B44 that showed us that shaft can be competitive. Xray perfected shaft and made all (except Schumacher) jump to shaft drives.
Optima has superior geometry and build quality. Own both and the Top Force joins my Avante on the shelf. It's too fragile in engineering though they're both beautiful
Hey, thanks for watching the content. I agree with you they are both beautiful but I found the Top Force far better suited to my back yard track. While the Optima Mid is far better build quality the set up required to get it going seemed a little harder than the TFE which hit the ground running out of the box. I am sure on a different track, on a different day it would be the other way round. Either way it is amazing that we can enjoy both of these classic RCs brand new out of a box in 2025! 😎
Great comparison and info on these two buggies! Thanks for sharing
Cheers Joe. I really enjoyed filming this one and I am so excited to drive them both
Awesome comparison Craig. Can't await to see them run against each other.
They are going to be hot competitors for a long time I think Dirk. I am betting on the Top Force this year as it just feels very fast
@@theoagrc was my first thought, too. But I know what a speed beast my Turbo Scorpion is. So....
2 fine looking machines! At this point I dont think im getting any work done this morning with all the videos that dropped this morning.
Hey Paul, Friday is always a busy RC day 😁
Hi there Craig and thanks for another very interesting comparison video! I must say I'd be chuffed to own either of these beautiful buggies. As to which will be the fastest and the toughest, we will sure find out this season at the OR! Great discussion and overviews, mate. See you soon! 😎👊👍
Hey Mark, I really enjoyed sitting down and bringing these down to compare! I think this class is going to be the hottest one on the OR for 2024! Thanks for watching pal 🙌🏻
Cheers from an Aussie in China, and great intro song!
Cheers dude! Hope you enjoyed the content 🙌🏻
Even as a Taniya man at heart, I must say that the Optima Mid takes this comparison for me! The Top Force Evo looks great, no doubt 😍, but there just is something about the Optima!🤩
Hey Toby, I know what you mean pal. It was a sensational build compared to the Top Force Evo. However, I think the Top Force feels faster. Can’t quite put my finger on it. I am hoping to get them both up on the track in the spring for a shake down ahead of the season starting properly!
@@theoagrc Just wondering - which is the heavier buggy? The Optima comes across as the heavier one to me...? Also a thought and suggestion for a future category of racing - brand equivalent opponent duels - could be interesting 😊
@TheTobyT I will try and weigh them over the weekend Toby. I expect the TFE to be lighter though due to the carbon chassis plate. Could be wrong though….
Terrific run down. These are quite a nice set . I look forward to the Vintage races. Belt vs Shaft! Cheers
Hey Mauzy, it is going to be a very interesting division. I am expecting nothing but awesome laps from all the vintage 4wd models but ones of these two will surely be victorious 👍🏻
Both lovely looking buggies.
Interesting seeing how short the Optima Mid looked in comparison.
Thanks Andy. I enjoyed comparing these two 🙌🏻
Two awesome buggies, got the Optima Mid in Netherlands last year, still in hunt for the Evo.
Hi there Maruis, thanks for watching. The Evo can be found if you shop about pal. If you don’t mind imports there are a few UK shops with stock.
The Mid is a beautiful RC though and I can’t wait to see how these get on in my backyard tournament this year. All the best dude 🙌🏻
I run both for quite some time and more or less I agree with you. The optima is definitely able to handle a modern brushless motor while the top force (which btw is my favorite vintage buggy) has a hard time, even with the super stock motors. Top force has a huge plus though which is access to the diffs, making maintenance a quick job. With all kyosho vintage buggies you need to take half the car off to access the diffs making them more suitable for bashing rather than racing.
Hey George, that is great to hear. I think that the Top Force is going to edge it but they are both a pleasure to have built and own. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
Cheers George. I agree with the access to the internal gearboxes. I do need to tweak the diffs on the Mid and I am not looking forward to that exercise if I am honest!
The Top Force Evo is a brilliant drive though. They are both fun but there is something very special about the Top Force
Great video Craig. Love them both. They are my channel colors.
Yeah dude!! Classic RC Icons for an RC Icon brother 🙌🏻 thanks for watching Keith. I can’t wait to put these against the Hotshot and the Thunder Dragon in a vintage 4wd division this summer. The TD went so well out on the OR but I am expecting one of these to deliver big time!
Thanks for all the great info on these two iconic buggies, Craig. I have a feeling the 2024 OR showdown will boil down to these two, and who's going to win? Oh man, I can't pick a winner... I want to say the Top Force EVO will win, but the Kyosho is so capable, it's really anyone's guess. I can't wait to see them turning laps!
Hey Fil, it will be one of the for the title this year. I think it is going to be the Top Force Evo but man I love that Mid!! Ideal situation would be a dead heat 😂🤣
Those are some sweeet builds great job
Thanks dude! I was so pleased with how both these turned out!
Very nice comparison video. They both look so nice. Now that you’ve run the Top Force, you might want to check the diffs. My rear one loosened a bit after the first run. It would be sad if your Top Force run on the Orchard Raceway got ruined by a loose ball diff.
Great advice and I will get in there and give them a tighten up. We don’t want a repeat of the Cougar when it struggled for two seasons with diff issues (coming back strong for 2024 though!!!).
Friday-
Everyone drops a video!!! 😂
Went straight to this one first! 🥇 What a great detailed comprehensive summary of these two timeless rc icons Craig!
Very well put together, especially enjoyed the links in the time line/what other things were available at the time, all very accurate info!
Those wheels look sooo much better on the Evo, they make it look much more aggressive and track worthy.
I love the look of it from the side and the rear, but the front view of this car is a total abortion.... sorry mate, just my own personal opinion!
(can't remember who termed the phrase 'squashed frog!) 😂
But, I'm sure it drives well, as do all the top force family.
I definitely prefer the more traditional look of the Mid, especially with the way you have finished that one,gorgeous livery!
I'm predicting the Mid to have the edge out on the track though mate.
Although I have not built my Mid yet, I would definitely say my optima turbo out performed my top force in every way..... and the Mid is allegedly better than the Turbo!
But who knows.... I'm certainly looking forward to seeing them battle it out on the track!
Wouldnt it be funny if the hot shot came out on top?! 😂
Would love to see an Egress, and Avante in the mix to.... but understand there has to be a limit to the amount of contestants! 😂
Great presentation buddy, guna watch it again I think! 👍 👍 👍
Hey James, thanks for making my video first Friday night stop! I loved making this one and these two are a pleasure to have built and soon drive.
I agree with the squashed comment on the Evo but from the side it just looks awesome! The Mid looks more like a traditional RC and a great looking one.
Who will win…. Hotshot or Thunder Dragon would be an upset but I bet I can push them harder having driven them a few times already round the OR. Who knows… only the RC Gods 🙌🏻
Hey there Craig! Absolutely stunningly handsome cars right here. It’s almost as these these two destined to meet even though their perspective timeline don’t exactly align perfectly. I feel like the Tamiya might be a tad faster but with that ultra low CG on the Kyosho, I feel like it’s going to be a bit more stable around the corners and running away from any jumps. If the ground is “loosie goosie” and torn up, than the Tamiya looks to have the ground clearance to trudge through the finish first. Of course this is just going on what I see. I’m not betting any under valued American dollars on either of these!😝
Aesthetically, wow, this is tough. Both really are pleasing to my wondering eyes👀. If I were going to keep one that I’d want placed on my bedroom shelf and be the first thing that I see when I wake up and the last thing I see when I go to bed, and I can’t have both at the same time…😫🧐, I’d have to say … Hello Kyosho!
Excited for all this to go down!
Hey Robbie, I think I agree with your assessment on these dude. The Top Force is going to be slightly ahead out on the OR but the Optima Mid just looks stunning. Although the silver wheels on the TFE are a sight to behold 😍 Thanks for tuning in brother 🙌🏻
Two great cars, i’ll be adding the topforce evo to my fleet this year hopefully. But as its going to be a custome build. Its going to be a while until its built and running 👍 great video, look forward to seeing them on the raceway 😎
Hey Richard, the Evo is a beautiful car and you can just tell it is a real treat. However, general feedback is that the Optima Mid will still be better!! I can’t wait to find out 😁
@@theoagrc yeah, my moneys on the mid. Running my long wheel base mid next weekend at the euromasters in leeds, cant wait. Then its pretty much get the cars ready to head outdoors racing 😎
Great comparison video Craig!
They both look amazing, congratulations on the work you did building these two!👏
I don’t know if I could pick a favorite.🤔
I really like the wheels you put on the Evo!
I feel like the Kyosho would win in a head to head but I’ve felt that way the past two years here at the raceway and my Thunder Dragon by the narrowest of margins defeated the Javelin…..
It should be an absolute joy to watch!
Now if only race season were here already!
Fantastic content Craig!👍😊
Hey Jeremy, thanks for watching dude! Could you imagine if the Thunder Dragon turns out the win again these two?? As you say it has happened and will probably happen again!!
I can’t wait for our seasons to start again dude. As always I will be tuning in over at the windy hills to see how your fleet gets on in 2024 🙌🏻
Very nice guide and comparison.
Cheers dude! Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
great comparison mate . two beauties 😊👍
Cheers Dom. They are both class act and I can’t wait to run them over the summer.
Nice video mate, great comparison ☺️🍻 Cheers
Thanks Mark. They are two very nice RC classics and we are lucky to be able to build them and break them again 😂
Nice video. You said that the shock towers on the Evo are FRP but they are carbon. Thin carbon.
Cheers pal. The Evo is a beautiful car to drive 😎
Hey great presentation Craig. I'd say that the Top Force is the best looking out of the two. Be interesting to see how they do on the track. Cheers mate 😁👍👍
Hey Pete, thanks for watching buddy. I am excited to get them both out on the track later this year and I think it is going to be a very interesting battle. Will the Thunder Dragon beat them both in a cruel twist of fate though??
@@theoagrc Well as previously discussed it's not always the high performance racers that do well on your garden circuit so who knows?
Great info on both buggies.
Even though i am a Tamiya dude i bet on the Optima Mid as that is awesome for what it is. It only need like better shocks
Those gold shocks are nice but the Hi-Caps are on another level. I have some Tamiya big bores for another project in the coming years and I can’t wait to build those bad boys!
Great comparison. 🤔 Kyosho is my favorite.
Thanks Trey! I enjoyed the build of the Mid but the TFE just feels fast man! It is going to be an awesome season on the OR
I think they both look great in different ways, what I find interesting is that the Terra Conqueror/Blazing Star (which I had) actually have a very similar body to the Optima mid in shape. This isn't helping my desire to get a TF Evo that I dreamed of when I was young, even if it's just for the build!
Wait until you see it competing in the Orchard Raceway later this season!! I enjoyed building both but a few months on it is the Top Force I keep coming back to
Both great looking buggies
Cheers Thad 🙌🏻
They really look the nuts together, bloody lovely! I’m tellin’ ye, the Turbo Optima would be just up your alley if you enjoyed the Mid build. Indeed, the Turbo build for me was even better than the Mid and there’s loads of extras chucked in. I now love Kyosho which I never really cared for as a kid. However, I owned a coupe of old knackered ones but only for a short while each. If never built one until recently and it was live at first build. :)
My first RC was a Kyosho Raider and I always wanted more Kyoshos. We had a bunch of old magazines as kids and the Hotshot and Optima/Mid were the cars we talked about. I am pleased that both are now part of the OAG fleet of cars. I do want to add the Optima to the fleet at some point but there is a queue at the moment 😂 The Turbo is high on my want list but I do also like the Javelin 😎 Thanks for watching pal and keep an eye on the channel as these two will be going head to head on the Orchard Raceway over the summer!!
My vote is on the Optima Mid but I'm biased. Never had the pleasure to own, build or drive a Top Force (evo) and my first "real racer" BITD was a pre official import Japanese Optima Mid turbo. As the orchard raceway is missing a long straight the longer wheelbase of the Top Force isn't that much of an advantage IMO. The almost square footprint of the mid goes around corners as a pro. Will be close call anyway, looking forward to the 2024 season.
Hey Stef, thanks for your insightful comment my friend 🙌🏻 Now it is going to be interesting as the OR is getting a facelift for 2024. I wonder if the new layout will give the Top Force an upper hand???? I can’t wait to get filming. Optima Mid Turbo 😍
Nice showdown. Impossible to choose 😊 Performance wise, it's down to your track, quite tight, so in theory, a shorter wheelbase should perform a little better. But that's all theory. There also the question on how the tyres will perform... one thing for sure, it will be interesting 👍👍👍🤝
Hey dude, it is going to be fun finding out who runs better…imagine if the Thunder Dragon holds them both out round the OR!! I can’t wait to get started for the season. Thanks for watching pal 🙌🏻
I have a box full of parts that i have no idea what rc it is but after watching this i think its a tamiya similar to this one.
Get some screw drivers out and start building! Could also be a TA01 as it shares some of the same parts too. Missing parts can always be hunted down and you can get reproduction bodies from a few places. Feel free to drop me a email with some photos if you want some help 👍🏻
Thanks
Kyosho was light years ahead of tamiya at those times. Fast forward, the lwb mid when set up properly can compete with modern buggies. Tamiya made a few good looking buggies but they were over engineered or just lack race genetics. At the time end of the day,, Kyosho was dominating the tracks back then.
It was probably an unfair comparison but both are very very good RCs. I really enjoyed both builds and they drive lovely.
looks like you've fitted modern narrow front 4WD wheels as the original tyres same width f&r need same width wheels. Lots of choice of modern narrow 4WD front tyres would look and drive better. Prefer the Kyosho Optima as it still looks vaguely scale-realistic, Tamiya has the swoopy style edge though.
Hey 👋🏻 I was thinking the same when I was looking at them. I ordered these specifically for the Optima Mid and was surprised to see the tyres didn’t work with them. I have some different tyres and might give them a blast. I think that they’ll probably work better out on the Orchard Raceway dirt than the kit ones. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
Kyosho was light years ahead of tamiya at those times. Fast forward, the lwb mid when set up properly can compete with modern day buggies. Tamiya made a few good looking buggies but they were over engineered or just lacked real race genetics. At the end of the day,, Kyosho was dominating the tracks back then.
Thanks for watching pal
No contest then, no contest now. I raced in the 80s-90s and I can confidently say that Top Force is NO legend (Egress NO legend too). The only 4wd that can compete with Optima Mid plaftorm ( up to Lazer ZX-RR) was the Yokomo Dogfighter. Tamiya became competitive starting with TRF501x. I have these cars
Hey there Percy. Now that is the comment I was looking for!! Optima Mid for the win 🥇 However you now have me looking at those Dogfighter rereleases again 🤔 Problem is there is only so much space for RCs! I would love a TRF501 but the closest I am going to get is a DF-01 sat in a box waiting to be unleashed on my Orchard Raceway. Many thanks for watching 🙌🏻
@@theoagrc I wish you all the best - win races with it. Belt drive dominated races during those years and it was the Associated B44 that showed us that shaft can be competitive. Xray perfected shaft and made all (except Schumacher) jump to shaft drives.
Dogfighter at the hands of Masami was unbeatable. I wonder why they made the re-release gear diffs instead of ball diffs.
@@PercyVRing yeah it can’t be cost cutting!! I would have thought ball diffs would be better with modern motors?
Has to be maintenance. Tempted to try rere 870c just because it has gear diffs.