Why The Incredibles is PIXAR's Best Movie

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  • @mcurran6505
    @mcurran6505 9 месяцев назад +76

    "People think of animation only doing things where people are dancing around and doing a lot of histrionics, but animation is not a genre. And people keep saying, 'The animation genre'. It's not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre. You know, it can do a detective film, a cowboy film, a horror film, an R-rated film or a kids' fairy tale. But it doesn't do one thing. And, next time I hear, 'What's it like working in the animation genre?' I'm going to punch that person!" - Brad Bird

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 9 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you. I find it very annoying when people call animation a genre and not a medium.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 9 месяцев назад +2

      I love The Incredibles. It is a shame that the sequel was not that good.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 9 месяцев назад +3

      The attempted suicide scene was something i was shocked got allowed in the film.

    • @JayPalOfficial
      @JayPalOfficial 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@anubusxoh yeah the opening scene.

  • @benjamingomez1761
    @benjamingomez1761 9 месяцев назад +13

    Bro literally made the best Superman movie without Superman in it 🗣💯

  • @theirongiants
    @theirongiants 9 месяцев назад +12

    The Incredibles has the jazz of early MCU, smartness, nuanced thematic contexts and character writing.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 4 месяца назад +1

      The perfect blueprint for a decent Fantastic Four film.

  • @lewisholiman9237
    @lewisholiman9237 9 месяцев назад +13

    The Incredibles being the best Fantastic 4 movie goes way deeper than just being a better movie in general than any F4 one we’ve gotten. Every character is an INCREDIBLY faithful depiction of their F4 counterpart while still putting just enough of a spin on it to be original.
    Bob is easily the best Reed Richards we’ve seen outside the comics. His obsession over superheroics directly parallels Reed’s obsession with science. Both characters strive to use the thing they’re best at to make the world a better place. But the reason they often need to be reined in and why their marriages suffer because of it is because they’re prone to the sin of pride and let that self-importance go to their heads. The difference is that where Reed is most often portrayed at the height of his career, Bob is reminiscing on the glory days to make for an extremely compelling story about a man dealing with a midlife crisis.
    Helen already has a massive advantage over every live action Sue Storm in that she and Bob are married with kids at the start of the story (not counting the prologue). So, in addition to both her affection and grievances with Bob being way more sincere, there are higher stakes to her conflict. She’s not just a naggy girlfriend seeking attention like in the Tim Story F4 movies; she’s a wife and mother trying to save her marriage as well as properly raise her children, with it often seeming like she has to do it alone as the only one who takes either matter seriously. This’s how Sue should’ve always been portrayed in the movies.
    Violet is insecure about her powers and wishes she could be normal, just like Ben. But Brad Bird makes the genius decision to match that idea with the all too relatable angst of adolescence. So, when she goes through the same character arc of learning to accept her abilities and use them for the greater good, it has the added layer of being a coming of age story.
    Dash is the egotistical one like Johnny. But instead of that being his whole personality, we get to see that he’s not as confident as he thinks when things get serious. For all his big talk in a domestic setting, he shows real concern when his life is put in danger for the first time and has to come into his own as he gradually masters his powers. It’s what makes the jungle chase scene so amazing. Fant4stic at least had something going on with Johnny feeling inferior to Sue in their dad’s eyes, but it still doesn’t hold a candle to what Brad Bird did with Dash in less screen time.
    Even Syndrome is the best Doctor Doom we’ve ever gotten by a mile. He has his own secluded land and wants to prove himself better than Bob because he matches his ego and feels betrayed by a tragic event from their past, just like Doom and Reed. But instead of a colleague, Bob was his idol and instead of a lab accident that left him scarred, it was Bob rejecting him. Since Bob’s focus is on superheroics instead of science, what better way to tweak the Reed/Doom rivalry accordingly then to make Syndrome an entitled super fan? In that way, he acted as a metaphor for absurd fan expectations long before Miguel O’Hara in Across the Spider-Verse. How have we gotten this brilliant subversion of Doom’s origin when we haven’t even had Doom’s proper origin done straightforward yet? And despite his fanboy persona, Syndrome is more legitimately threatening than any on-screen Doom.

  • @dynaguy3
    @dynaguy3 9 месяцев назад +30

    You can tell Brad is very passionate about his films and a bit of a perfectionist. That’s why his movies have such enormous heart, expression, and creativity. The Incredibles and Ratatouille are 2 of my top 3 all time favorite movies. His writing and direction for Incredibles is genius for its themes, characters, and tone. Not to mention the score he was able to create with a first time film composer, Michael Giacchino. Unfortunately, Incredibles 2 didn’t turn out for reasons like time constraints and a lack of risk taking.

    • @bowserbreaker2515
      @bowserbreaker2515 6 дней назад +1

      He also said he would only do an Incredibles 2 if he had a full idea. He didn't have a full idea; he has said that.

    • @dynaguy3
      @dynaguy3 6 дней назад

      @@bowserbreaker2515 yeah very strange he agreed to make it

    • @bowserbreaker2515
      @bowserbreaker2515 6 дней назад +1

      @@dynaguy3 Disney probably made him. Tomorrow Land lost them millions, and they probably wanted him to make it up to them with a safe bet.

  • @jerryterwase9027
    @jerryterwase9027 9 месяцев назад +5

    I wish this movie could be released with updated effects ( if that's even possible). A true classic.

  • @Joseph_R._Azevedo
    @Joseph_R._Azevedo 9 месяцев назад +24

    Oh I’m definitely gonna love this, your analysis/essay videos are always eye-openers, additionally Elastigirl one of the best milfs in fiction, there’s a reason the term is “Pixar Mom”.
    Also, could you someday do a video about Storm or Vixen, explaining why they work and how they’re great characters, cause there are no videos like that for either of them and I love Storm and Vixen

  • @Shawnodachi
    @Shawnodachi 9 месяцев назад +4

    Another great analysis. These vids keep getting better and better!

  • @levlarl1463
    @levlarl1463 9 месяцев назад +7

    I'm glad you made this analysis, Super Frame. This got me thinking: Now that you have made a "How to make a good movie" videos for both DC and the X-Men, have you been thinking about making one for the Fantastic Four? I think that would be FANTASTIC.
    Also, can you PLEASE share with me the music you use in your videos? I really want to listen to them to their fullest.

  • @alexandrefrauches132
    @alexandrefrauches132 9 месяцев назад +12

    Great analysis! What I like about this film, ironic, is that, despite it's message, Bird was able to make this film "extraordinary" by focusing on a aspect some people would see as something simple and not exciting: the family drama. Nowadays, many directors would probably try to make a film "extraordinary" by making it bigger, with world ending event and alot of action and set ups for sequels, resulting in just another generic super hero blockbuster. But the Incredibles was the total opposite of this.
    Yes, the movie has fun action adventure but is also creative and knows how to balance with simple relatable scenes. The strenght of the film are the characters and their personal drama.

    • @lewisholiman9237
      @lewisholiman9237 9 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly! Another thing I love about it is how absurdly ahead of its time it is. It was a subversion of the superhero genre set in an established universe back when superhero films’ popularity was still on the rise. Nowadays, it seems like every other superhero property is trying to do something similar because the genre has been popular for so long at this point that everyone feels the need to try and make themselves seem more in touch than they really are. Some are more genuine and do a better job at putting their own spin on the idea than others (The Boys probably being my favorite recent example), but most are like Deadpool in that they just sort of give unsubtle winks at the audience and expect us to clap for how in on the joke they are. The Incredibles is not only more genuine and affective than any superhero satire that we get today, but did so before it was cool.

  • @garrito1016
    @garrito1016 9 месяцев назад +13

    Great analysis, Pixar used to be on top of the world in the 2000s, and this movie is easily one of their greatest works. I love how the adult themes help make this movie work for anybody who watches the movie. Kids enjoy the superhero action, but parents and adults can enjoy the family drama and themes. Great stuff all around, would love to see you cover more animated deep dives!

  • @DavidSilva-mn4dz
    @DavidSilva-mn4dz 5 месяцев назад +1

    Animation is an artform, and if you ask me... Superheroes should be animated. Period.

  • @conradaster3764
    @conradaster3764 Месяц назад +1

    This is the definition of a perfect movie it has to be up there with the godfather and Chicago

  • @ggtwinbee8506
    @ggtwinbee8506 9 месяцев назад +1

    For the longest time I didn't know that disk 2 had an audio file where you can listen to the supers for so long, and honestly it's surprising that many of the people who voice the supers never had their voice actors mentioned at all so it's pretty much speculation for most of them outside the ones people know. Still, hearing what Gazerbeam sounds like after all these years is a cool treat I've never knew I needed!

  • @suto5704
    @suto5704 9 месяцев назад +6

    Fantastic video. Brad Bird would be a great pick to direct an X-men movie

    • @anthonysmith3415
      @anthonysmith3415 9 месяцев назад

      2000s brad bird yes modern brad bird NO

    • @suto5704
      @suto5704 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@anthonysmith3415everybody has their misses, even the greats

  • @ethinwhite3454
    @ethinwhite3454 9 месяцев назад +1

    To me, even as a kid I thought that this movie was a cross between a superhero movie and a James Bond movie.

  • @JayPalOfficial
    @JayPalOfficial 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great analysis. You should do another one with the animated Spider-Verse and TMNT Mutant Mayhem movies. They’re great examples on what animation should potentially do as a medium rather than just a genre. I love what Brad Bird said and someone commented this quote really well. “It’s not a genre… Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre!” Animation isn’t just for kids but it’s also for adults who enjoy animated shows and movies. That’s what’s it all about #AnimationIsCinema.

  • @theirongiants
    @theirongiants 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Incredibles is one of the smartest computer animated films of all time.
    The Iron Giant is a heartfelt expression, and one of the most whimsical and delightful animated films of all time.
    Ratatouille is a film, that takes the concept of creating art and being an artist. And it shows that concept in a way that is both mature and delightful.
    In short, these three films are some of my favorite films ever. They all have something unique and interesting, they are clever and nuanced. Brad Bird knows why animation is well "animation". He's one of my favorite directors, because this guy has made three distinctly different films with completely different styles. The Incredibles is jazzy, The Iron Giant is like a warm sunshine, Ratatouille is like a slow-moving art film.

  • @nicklatallade9344
    @nicklatallade9344 9 месяцев назад +1

    It's people like Brad Bird that reinforce the knowledge of the fact that animated films are just as essential as live action ones. I always admired the feeling and the themes behind his movies. One of my personal favorites is iron Giant, The movie's Big theme was " what if a gun could feel? What if a gun had a soul? What if a gun didn't want to be a gun?" And how Brad drew this theme from experiencing The tragedy of losing his sister to a gunshot. The robot who is meant to be a weapon that was built to kill and destroy, he could have been that but he wasn't. The question "you are who you choose to be" Will always stay with me because of how true it is. And that's what the robot went through. Instead of being a weapon or conquer, in the very end he decided to be a hero who defended for humanity. Like you said in the video, Brad can take anything, be it a car, a monster or a toy and give it feelings. And it's things like that that make me admire Brad's work so much.

  • @zsoltbartus169
    @zsoltbartus169 7 месяцев назад

    I love the first Incredibles. Even as an adult still hooked whenever gets to see it.
    And its the best F4 movie too. 😅

  • @HeyItsLito09877-OFFICIAL
    @HeyItsLito09877-OFFICIAL 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hamburger, cheeseburger, big mac, whopper

  • @dufrain_media
    @dufrain_media 9 месяцев назад +1

    You're my favorite channel! I loved this video so much it hurts. You take a deep dive into exactly what this film says, both in the exposition and subtext of the film, and in addressing the subtle moments nuanced throughout the film. One of the very best films and honestly should be used in classes to teach film theory.

  • @jerogomezrobledo
    @jerogomezrobledo 9 месяцев назад +1

    I met Brad Bird during the release of Incredibles 2, and I managed to get him to talk in his Edna Mode voice.

  • @parkerpshebnisky1051
    @parkerpshebnisky1051 Месяц назад

    This movie is 20 years old! and it’s still a great movie!😁👍👍

  • @LucasHopkins2006
    @LucasHopkins2006 9 месяцев назад +2

    While Toy Story 3 is my favorite Pixar movie, how in the heck did they make Incredibles so freaking amazing, it’s probably one of the most well made and well directed movies I’ve ever seen

  • @yoboimichproductionsinc.2948
    @yoboimichproductionsinc.2948 5 месяцев назад +1

    Animation is so underrated still but I think jihbli right now is pioneering the medium but that Pinocchio movie is also top tear in storytelling and animation too. Spiderverse idk they're definitely using animation in a fanfuckintastic way but something is still off on the story imo

  • @themikx2939
    @themikx2939 9 месяцев назад

    Love this video! Brad Bird is one of my favorite directors ever and I love his passion for the animation medium

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 9 месяцев назад

    My friends and I were literally talking about yesterday what was our favorite Pixar movie and I said The Incredibles was my favorite and this video just encases why this is my favorite Pixar movie, awesome video dude

  • @LuisSanchez-by7mh
    @LuisSanchez-by7mh 9 месяцев назад +1

    The sequel wasn’t really Brad’s greatest work. The movie is not bad just average and simple. I think he either played it safe or it was Disney that kinda forced him to play it safe with the sequel. Either way the sequel doesn’t really live up to the original other than the updated animation. If Brad had more creative freedom away from Disney’s thumb I think the sequel could’ve been a great story. Brad Bird should be the one to direct Superman Legacy.

  • @beauregardheer
    @beauregardheer 9 месяцев назад

    This is my #1 Favorite movie

  • @Dr.Beetlejuice110
    @Dr.Beetlejuice110 Месяц назад

    I agree with this so much!!!

  • @travionstaten8346
    @travionstaten8346 9 месяцев назад

    I would really love to see Brad Bird direct a Legion of Super Heroes Live Action DC film

  • @jefry8393
    @jefry8393 8 месяцев назад

    Im surprised brad never worked with gennedy tartakovsky

  • @Mr.DelicateTouch
    @Mr.DelicateTouch 9 месяцев назад

    Great video. Id love to see you cover the Iron Giant and Ratatouille at some point.

  • @dylanledo8907
    @dylanledo8907 9 месяцев назад

    Just watched your under the red hood comparison video, I was wondering if you ever thought about making one on the new frontier or the flashpoint paradox

  • @MarcoDSabo
    @MarcoDSabo 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. I don’t care what anyone says, The Incredibles is easily the best Pixar film ever made and one of the best superhero films ever made. Cohesive story, great setting, interesting and likeable characters in a world with a lot of creative potential to work with. The dynamic between the family along with Frozone was top tier. I’m still holding out on an Incredibles 3

  • @vincentfranklin17
    @vincentfranklin17 9 месяцев назад +1

    To me, this is one of the best superhero films. Incredibles 2 was good, but not quite as good as the first film.
    Syndrome was a better villain than The Screen-Slaver.

  • @bowserbreaker2515
    @bowserbreaker2515 6 дней назад

    The Incredibles is the best superhero movie ever made. It's not my favorite Pixar movie, but it is one of the best. Even with the behind-the-scenes mess, it's still too bad that Incredibles 2 stunk. Brad Bird is a genius. He made Disney and Pixar's best movie, Ratatouille, and he made the best Mission Impossible.

  • @anghdusyhhshdhyd3477
    @anghdusyhhshdhyd3477 9 месяцев назад +1

    Can you rewrite incredibles 2

  • @emmanueltemilade2547
    @emmanueltemilade2547 8 месяцев назад

    This video, just like this movie, is Absolutely fantastic…oh wait, wrong movie…
    Point still stands!

  • @exmachin3926
    @exmachin3926 9 месяцев назад +2

    This analysis of the Incredibles makes me a little more disappointed of the sequel. The themes that should bolster the movie were just not there 😢

  • @camerongreenwoodcrampakacgc.
    @camerongreenwoodcrampakacgc. 4 месяца назад

    The Incredibles is the best movie ever. Apart from The Shawshank Redemption.

  • @youtubegamerpro5200
    @youtubegamerpro5200 9 месяцев назад

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