NAMOR is the Most Interesting MARVEL Hero
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2022
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Imperius Rex!
I cant wait he said that in wakanda forever
@@Salty010 dunno why I have the feeling that they'll change it for some more spanish sounding.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 the ancient civilizations in Mexico didn’t speak Spanish and besides Namor is supposed to be fluent in all languages
@@bdboricua3128 eh I meant that as a joke because of the changes to him and his Atlantis xD
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 oh you got me lol
Before there was a "Morbin time", there was an "Imperius Rex". Respect the Submariner.
After Wakanda Forever, there will respect.
@@master-of-many-fandoms2020 Respect? For a fake Namor? Why? No respect.
Fun fact: He's also the first superhero to fly before superman did
That's "ABSOLUTELY" facts. Although I thought DC. made SUPERMAN "before NAMOR. EITHER way I HOPE that NAMORS introduction in WAKANDA FOREVER,does not gives NAMOR ALOT of magical powers, as opposed to his MUTANT CAPABILITIES.
@@leojmartin9940 Superman came before namor but golden age supes doesn't have the ability to fly yet.
@@leojmartin9940 superman was before Namor but it used to be that he couldn’t fly, only leap tall buildings I believe
What people don't remember is that Namor was basically the main antagonist of early 60's marvel comics. He was the most featured one as he appeared in almost every book and was the antagonist for their flagship title Fantastic Four's first annual. Not Dr. Doom, Namor
The issue where he fights Daredevil is one of the best single issue stories of all time. Played to both character's strengths rarely seen these days
@@dzubmariner yeah I re-read it like a week ago and it's soo good
@@dzubmariner yeah, great stuff. caught that early, as it was part of the Treasury edition special: "Giant Superhero Holiday Grab-Bag" #1 (1974) which was & is awesome: Marvel Team-Up #1; Daredevil #7; Amazing Adventures #5; and Fantastic Four #25-26!
he was a sympathetic villain if so; I think he's more of the main antagonist than villain.
@@GenghisDon1970 Antagonist is the definitely right for his role in DD #7. He was'nt fighting for neither noble nor malicious reasons but stopped out of respect for Daredevil's tenacity.
Incredible story by Lee and Wood that challenges the usual hero trope without going into deconstruction of the characters.
I never knew Namor was this complex! I always see him randomly appear on comics and think “Man that guy looks like a jerk”😂
Well NOW YOU KNOW how much of a BOSS he is.
@@leojmartin9940 right not alot of beings in marvel can say they bested Thor and hulk at the same time
He's complex and also a jerk. It's great.
People with knife ears tend to be jerks. I didn't make the rules.
I’ve always said he’s a complex character. Noble aristocratic regal but with a furious temper. He has a very overlooked friendship with doctor doom and he’s one of the few people doom treats as an equal maybe because they are both monarchs and recognise their own worth. I wouldn’t say he’s marvels answer to aquaman considering he predates him
He seems like marvels version of Vegeta personality wise Because he loves the thrill of battle
I always thought of Namor as being something like the ocean itself personified. The sea cannot be reasoned with, you cannot control it, it can be calm and pleasant one moment and raging the next, and it provides transportation and livelihood and food just as easily as it destroys entire coastlines. Namor seems…elemental, impervious to the judgement of man, tumultuous, nearly impossible to reign in, and once he’s set on a path it’s basically like trying to stop a tidal wave.
Not gonna lie that’s exactly what I think makes him different from Aquaman, while Arthur also shares similar traits of ruling over Atlantis he still has somewhat respect for humans and enough humility to admit his faults. Namor usually tends to fall towards his faults, rather embracing them than admitting.
@@meep9231 Aquaman started out as a bland “goodie two shoes” and his “edgier” side came from Namor, so his characterization makes sense in this context. I also don’t think Namor was ever meant to be “likable.”
@@Mayakranhmm, which makes him all the more interesting as a character, we’re not actually supposed to like
Namor, but rather more less understand where he comes from and how his personality affects others and his people.
Old marvel had soap opera level of drama in comic(in a good way)...but nobody just understood that...
Went against The Illuminati and warned them NOT to send the hulk to space. When Banner returned he left Atlantis be.
I love these character deep-dive videos! They paint a perfect picture of how much more layered and nuanced these comic book icons are than people’s surface-level understanding of them. Speaking of, what happened to the Silver Surfer one? That was one of my favorites.
100% mate
I want to redo the silver surfer one so I’ve privated it
@@thesuperframe What are your thoughts on MCU's Wakanda Forever Namor?
Man you outdid yourself on this one… the research, the writing, the cast… just great
Since Namor debuted before Aquaman essentially Aquaman is dc’s Namor
And a cheap knockoff of the Sub-Mariner
@@kayaanbedi5554 yep exactly
Namor was the first character to defeat the Hulk in battle, taking him underwater and nearly drowning him. Since then the two have been constant rivals. Namor cannot beat Hulk on land and Hulk has only beaten Namor once in the sea. Despite that. He was the Hulk's first ally. The first one to neither hate or fear him, and his constant companion on the Defenders I think Namor is the Hulk's only real friend in the superhero community.
Great video as always
I want to see the classic Defenders greatly.
Susan Storm the invisible girl was actually the first to defeat the Hulk one on one. She cut off his Oxygen supply with a force bubble
Fun fact: Namor was created in 1939 while Aquaman was created in 1941 so you can say that Aquman is a rip off of Namor but nobody really cares.
Yeah it’s a situation where the original is less popular examples would be Darkseid being less popular than Thanos, manthing being less popular than swamp thing, dr fate being less popular than dr strange, deathstroke being less popular than Deadpool, etc.
Most of what you said is not what came first is less popular its more of marvel knows how to make these charecters famous.
Namor was popular in the 1940s. He was one of the big three for Timely which included the Human Torch and Captain America. He became popular again in the 1960s in his run on Tales to Astonish. He then had his own comic book. In the 1970s he appeared in The Invaders. So yes I do care about Namor. I don't give a damn about Acquaman.
yeah but they're two completely different characters outside of their powers
Namor is the rare case of the original being better than the rip-off
The fact you showed how Cyclops and Namor are great characters, I would love you to make a "Respect Morbius" video. Idk if he really is interesting, but the fact he is a old Spider Man villain and even got a movie which was bullied by everyone, Im curiouss about what your take on him would be
A “Respect Morbius” video would be perfect since now so many people see him as just a joke when there’s so much more to him.
I mean morbius was never THAT great. He was always good but he was never Namor or Cyclops level of importance or writing and no one is really mad he's getting disrespected.
morbius is an anti-hero
Tenoch's Namor was different, but i think it was a good take.
Something i like, for example, is that you can tell he has sadistic tendencies (him talking about killing the spaniards as a kid, for example).
I can definitely see him being arrogant af when interacting with characters like Dr. Strange, F4, Moom Knight, etc
Namor's Jane was Betty Dean. A police woman in New York in the 1940's.
Something people doesn't realize aswell is the fact that Namor was pushing the comics narratives since the very beginning, in some way or another.
Think of the Golden Age, colorful heroes who had very strict and defined concepts of good and evil, they would even fight on WWII (as Namor himself) and then just do inconsequential stuff, have adventures or just be heroes... but not Namor.
At the end of the 30s he was at the center of what probably is one of the earliest special events on superhero comics, he would target the city of New York as the medium to deliver a message to the surface and flood the entire place, but with the original Human Torch being there to fight him and save the people, a crossover of certain scale that would define the style of Marvel characters that would be foud to constantly have confrontations between eachother, even if they were the usual heroes, I mean, Civil War kinda has its roots on something that was like 60+ years old by the time.
Everett really pushed boundaries in the original run.
there's a certain mystique in that run that hasn't been replicated
I just love the fact that you used the same voice actors as B-Mask's (Fantastic) Fantastic Four video.
And well done describing Namor. :)
After seeing the movie I think they are on the right path. Despite the origin change he definitely felt like the avenging son. Also the way they figured how to show him flying because of wings on his feet was pretty dope. As the video mentioned about him basically being worshipped as a God-King is definitely in there. The only person who speaks back at him is his cousin Namora but even she only does it in a private setting. I was happily surprised by this interpretation of Namor.
:Very Mild Spoiler: He says the words!
Imperius Rex!
Namor came before Aquaman, so really Aquaman is the answer to Namor
Here's a fun fact:
Namor was actually created BEFORE Aquaman!
Personally, after being introduce in Wakanda forever, I think MCU should give Namor his own movie or series, with the Fantastic Four making a guess apperance, allowing Namor to meet Sue and have his rivalry with Reed. The villain could be General Krang, who decides to rebel against Namor, seeing him as just spoil self-entitle tyrant. This would not only give Krang understantable reasons for wanting to take over Namor throne (with him representing the voices of the fans who see Namor as just arrogant jerk) but he would also act as contrast to Sue, who despite rejecting Namor advance, recognize his good qualities, that he is not bad person and can be good protector for Atlantis
He could also have a unique role in Avengers 5 and 6 when they go up against Kang because the multiversal shenanigans will be the perfect opportunity for him to show his willingness to destroy other realities to preserve his own. Maybe he could do exactly that and the Avengers, despite not being happy about it, can’t really talk shit because it was the only option at the time.
@@lewisholiman9237 That would be awesome, specially if his actions create a moral debate between the avengers, with some being against Namor action while others feel that he is right, that they must destroy other realities in order to save their world. This arguments between heroes could be the cause for them to fail to defeat Kang in their first fight, establishing a drama the Avengers will have to overcome.
@@alexandrefrauches132 Yeah, basically give him the Captain Marvel approach from the second Civil War, which could also make for a great movie if there was a spot before Kang Dynasty to slot it in.
@@lewisholiman9237 I can see this happening, specially because I have theory that Kang will be the villain only in Kang Dinasty, with him coming to conquer the present in order to save Earth from the Incursions that will happen in the future. It's possible that the heroes defeat him in the end but the post credit scene reveals the Incursions starting to happen, giving the heroes a time limit to stop this event, which could be explore in movies between Kang Dinasty and Secret Wars (which in my opinion, should have Doctor Doom taking over Kang place as the main villain).
That is the plan
Damn. I did not know, that Namor had this much depth. Thanks, SUPER FRAME.
Chip zdarskys Invaders comics did such a good job with Namor
NAMOR will NEVER "HAVE" SUSAN RICHARDS, as long as REED CAN ALTER THE size OF "any" part of his body.
Glad someone gave Namor the attention and respect he deserves. Btw, you should definitely do these video essays for other characters in DC as well like Kyle Rayner, Tim Drake and other under appreciated ones
Tenoch was amazing i freaking love Talokan!!
Honestly Namor was one of my first super heroes” growing up. My first experience was in fantastic four:world’s greatest heroes. Even though he was a chad for his few appearances he was still annoyingly entertaining.😂
Great video. I'll be honest; I never cared that much about Namor even while reading Fantastic Four. Yet upon reading John Bryne's excellent run on the character and seeing the good stuff he's in I've come to better appreciate him. For example, in New Warriors by Fabian Niceza where Namor proved to be a good father figure to Namoritta when she was on the team. That said, when it comes to Aquatic-based superheroes no one will beat Aquaman in my eyes. But I respect Namor for who he is. That said, I am really sad that Boseman passed away. Ignoring the issue I have with BP2 not having him in, how awesome would it have been to have T'Challa and Namor clash on an ideological level? Think Daredevil and Punisher rooftop scene but about leadership, family, and ruling. It would have been especially fascinating given how Atlantis and Wakanda are both civilizations that have hidden from the world and in turn are very similar to how they view the rest of earth.
Overall, I look forward to seeing how Marvel depicts Namor and hope it is good.
Just finished Hickman’s avengers run and not being able to get any of that conflict and reconciliation between Namor and BP is such a bummer. Namor might’ve been the most entertaining character in that era tbh
I share your sadness. When thinking about it, if Boseman was alive, I could see BP2 creating nice parallell between T'challa and Namor. Whatever incident caused the war between Wakanda and Atlantis, it could also result in the death of Namor mother, causing him to declare war on the surface. This would mirror T'challa arc in Civil War and how he react when his father was killed. The difference would be that, while T'challa learned to let go of revenge and not allow it to corrupt him, Namor just embrace it. He would had been emotional while T'challa would be rational.
To your point about the missed potential of a T’Challa vs Namor movie with the conflict rooted in their differing leadership styles, that’s one of several reasons why I think Black Panther as a property would be better suited for the small screen tbh. Because if there were several episodes to properly develop Wakanda and Atlantis both as complex civilizations instead of just a two-hour movie, then seeing them go to war would be way more cathartic if that makes sense. The various hidden nations of the Marvel universe have the potential to have the same level of political intrigue as Game of Thrones.
I really think they should have recasted T'Challa instead of killing him off
New 52 Aquaman stories were the best Aquaman stories ever. He does not equal Namor. Namor is complex character full of contradictions. He is ruthless yet kind. He hates humans yet his father and best friends are humans.
I have loved this character for years.
Namor McKenzie is a badass!
Amazing voice acting, especially for Namor himself, great video!
Absolutely quality video that I'd love to see more of. Also absolutely cant wait for the justice league 2 as those videos make my day!
Namor is not Marvel's Aquaman. Aquaman is DC's Namor. I believe Namor was created 3 years before Aquaman, and Namor was the first Superhero in flight! ALL HAIL IMPERIOUS REX!
But Aquaman is a far better Hero than Namor will ever be.
SACRILAGE! Lol... I've always liked Namor better. It might be more of a nostalgia thing... I also think he looks cooler than Aquaman. Namor has sort of a Black Adam look. Also, I read this one comic where he punched Hulk so hard, Hulk turned back into Banner. ALL HAIL IMPERIOUS REX!
Imo exactly what mcu needs right now to break away from the formulaic stories, a wildcard you don't know what he's going to do next.
Someone who could go toe to toe with the Hulk and has his own army yes you don't know if he's fight with or against the heroes
Many so called "Marvel fans" don't know Namor because they are just MCU fans not Marvel fans, none of them read the source materials.
Its like being a Harry Potter fan but not knowing about the books.
Man this is a really well put together video, super engaging 👏
0:48 i was so happy to hear him say that line in Wakanda Forever I was just all “hell yeah!”
GREAT job on the video,really enjoyed it.I've always LOVED the character of Namor,he was also one of the power-house,characters in the early days of Marvel comics.He's fought-Thor,Hulk,Hercules,Ironman,Silver-Surfer and SO many others.Namor was no weakling like Aquaman was when he was first introduced into the bronze age,now he's as strong as Supes ( under water that is ) now bullets bounce off his chest.And I LOVE Aquaman too.
Another spectacular video my friend. Bravo!!!!! I love your deep dives into these characters. Dr. Doom would be a great in depth video 😉
Great job 👏
Reed sees Sue as his wife AND his equal. Namor just sees her as his prize.
You forgot about his most recent character development in years which comes from Invaders (2019) which is that he’s long been suffering from PTSD since fighting in World War II
video was a W as always hopefully marvel does namor right on the big screen
Namor is neither a Hero nor a Villain nor an Anti-Hero; He’s a King.
Fantastic video man fr
Thank you so so much for making this video. Most people never believe me when I say that Namor has been my favorite character since I was a kid. I always felt he was so nuanced and complex. That’s why I loved him from when I first saw him in the comics. I hope the MCU does him justice. There is, as you have stated, so much opportunity for a complex and fascinating character to be written into the MCU with Namor. Great work. Thanks again.!
Namor & the rest of the MU was pretty awesome too, certainly in ye old days.
Thank you so much for affording Namor a deep dive worthy of a king.
WHEN IS THE HOW TO MAKE A GOOD JUSTICE LEAGUE COMING OUT
Fr
Soon calm down, it's a big video, he's not a content machine, he's editing it now I think
@@kadegetslaid634 I imagine it’s gonna be crazy considering that he’s choosing to make it before even pitching Wonder Woman so he’s got much bigger shoes to fill (does that work here?) than the previous 3 offerings in this series.
@@komodosworld3199 that's actually so true
Namor came way before Aquaman
This was well done.
consent: *exists*
Namor: Ha! such human ideas do not stop Namor, IMPERIUS REX!
This was beautiful. Would love to see a video liek this about Dr. Fate or the JSA.
Dude kudos to you and your foleys.
I hope Black Panther 2 is a great movie to conclude phase 4 of the MCU.
It's like seeing myself in a fictional mirror
Brilliant overview!!! Here's hoping that MCU Namor is treated with this much respect!:)
Do you know when you will finish "How to make a good justice league movie" ?
been wondering that
It'll be my next video.
My favorite character because He is badass and is real king
One of my favourite character
You should do more of these videos of showing respect for marvel characters
As a non comic reader I hope they can live up to how you describe him I knew he was complex but wow he could be top 5 mcu characters honestly. Also they made him mexican lets go represent, not necessary but it's kinda dope.
And also they renamed Atlantis into Talocan.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 I think that's cool will give it it's own identity over aquaman and the Aztec designs are really dope imo
He's not technically Mexican, he's native. Mexico is distinctly a European based nation. It's an important different.
@@mr.iiconic obviously you're correct but I'm more referring really to the actor and overall appearance as a person the native appearance has stayed strong throughout the years and thus many mexicans look native
@@FunClockwork I see what you mean.
im really glad there bringing submariner to the big screen hes pretty interesting and im excited to see what the mcu does with him
Namor is my favorite Marvel super antihero , just hope they do justice to him on live action and do not turn him in a joke like they did with Thor.
lets go superframe video time
Great video
_"When you think of Namor what do you think"_
Me: a good chef
This video was amazingly well done and loving towards Namor I loved your X-men Evolution review also please please make a review for the X-men anime I feel like it’s not talked about enough and maybe a Storm video :)
Technically Namor was created before Aquaman so Aquaman is DC's answer to Namor
Namor is one of my favorite characters from the marvel universe I'm glad the MCU is finally doing him in a movie my only problem with the casting is I wish they had cast someone more attractive I know that sounds really shallow but to me a core part of Namor is that he is super good looking and confident and a chick magnet and I just don't see it with the actor that they have cast maybe he'll win me over when I see wakanda forever time will tell
See? When a MAN or WOMAN can BREATHE UNDERWATER and PROPEL HIMSELF to speeds of 40 knots or BETTER, in "ICE COLD" as well as VERY "HOT" WATER temperatures and DEPTHS EXCEEDING THE MARIANIS trench and survive unscathed IS THE BEST MUTANT GIFT "EVER" Let's not even get into his ability to fly.
Thing about Captain America, he is VERY formidable, and even though I base my STATS of Mutants and super heros on the fact that my cousin (RIP)😭had the marvel universe comics from A-Z in 1984. Which listed the ABILITIES of Captain America, it stated that Cap MAXES OUT at about a half a TON, in terms of what he can BENCH and PRESS. NAMORS stats, listed that he could lift and press at 100 Tons. But, THE SUPER SOLDIER serum that CAP has in him, MAY have, HULK like properties. Point being, NAMORS STRENGTH LEVEL "DWARFS" Captain America, Like a BLOOD thirsty animal, compared to a human baby. But, Cap will go toe to toe WITH NAMOR, despite the fact he is technically commiting Suicide.
Without trying to be rude I haven’t read any of the what looks like 10 comments you’ve made but my condolences to your cousin.
Cant wait to see Namor in the MCU finally
Namor is one of the most powerful, amazing hero's ever seen! He could be a dick but he wants to save his people! He came befor d.c. Auaman!
Respect!
They changed Namor's story history. Instead of Atlantis it became Talocan. Look up Talocan.
Woah that iron man voice filter was dope lol
Bro Mitch you can tell us when will you release you justice league part 2 it has been months and you still havent released part 2 i understand if you have other plans going on but please at please make some sort of followup video.disclaimer:your mental health and well being comes first obviously i just love your other videos and want to see more.
Hail to the king baby.
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Great video. Hey, have you seen the lastest green lantern animated movie (Beware my power) and Would you make a video about it or the rest of the Tomorrowverse, please? 🥺
Don’t be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen...
He’s kinda Vegeta like tbh in terms of attitude.
Namor is the traffic mulatto.
What would you say are the best Namor stories? What did you think of the John Byrne run?
Marvel's First Superhero made before Batman and Aquaman🤔
Do one on Aquaman!
can i just say this is the only piece of internet information that deal with namor and not in a ha ha he is marvel aquaman way . not only its great, but i agree with everything he said
I was reading Daredevil man without fear issue 7 (the one where tries to plead his case to file a lawsuit against the human race) and I got to say namor is definitely one of the more interesting marvel characters, him being this morally Gray character is very cool, I also like that he has something of a "warriors respect" to him. At the end of the issue even though Daredevil gets knocked down on his feet namor admires and respects his determination to keep fighting. He also definitely isn't an anti-hero or a villain like you said. I'm definitely going to go pick up some comics with him as the main character and see what I've been missing.
I want one for Reed!
Could you please do a video on Aquaman because I feel as though most people don't understand who the character is.
Namor is the same as the fantastic four he's one of they're first heroes they should treat him with respect
Namor was before Aquaman, so how can Namor be like Aquaman?! Namor fought along side Captain America against Hitler. I just don't get it.
Obviously I know your working hard and no rush at all but will Justice League be out soon again no rush your doing great and this is an amazing series your doing but just curious.
28th Oct, check my twitter.
@@thesuperframe k thx
I wonder if there is any similarly with Narmer the pharaoh and Namor the king?
Is that Justice League Video coming soon 👀
Very soon
Little bit of vegeta in that namor voice
Mr. Steal your girl from the ocean
I liked how he was in defence of hulk
Can you do one on deathstroke