In the first several dozen historical games I played as Germany throughout my time playing HOI4, Italy would always try to take Scotland, wakes, northern England, Canada, India, Australia, and Norway, for whatever reason.
@@Bolitadewien просто есть такая вещь, как исторический фокус, по нему страны должны идти исторически, но практически всегда советский союз проигрывает третьему рейху даже с историческим фокусом, лучше убрать такую настройку, чем так позориться а так да, игру можно назвать песочницей, так как возможностей тут вполне достаточно, чтобы радикально изменить мир 1930-х, будь возвращение священной римской империи или присоединение доминионов к британской короне
it was funny how in the DLC version, Germany finally lost the war, then immediately tried to invade around Poland again. It's like the Allies turned around and Germany immediately went around for a second go at it.
@@El_Presidente_5337 lend lease accounted for 4% of Soviet production (not counting the products produced before the war). Soviet citizens also collected valuables comparable to the volume of lend lease into funds to help the front.
@@Alpffine of course they are. In reality the Soviets would have starved to death without allied supplies. In the game i easily manage to defeat the germans on my own, without any support on any but the highest difficulty (also it would be completely gamebreaking to make the Soviets even stronger. Where would be the point in playing the axis if you cant even defeat the soviets but still have to deal with the allies.)
In every fucking game weird shit happens like Germany not going around the maginot but through Italy or Italy naval invading Normandy while Germany is pushing through the maginot because the French moved their armies to garrison Africa
Funny that them are both not historically correct, in a way or the another. (However the "All DLCs" was the most wrong.) P.S.: I was never going to expect so much likes, thank you...?
Its just historical focus tree wise. The strength of the nations is more made for balance reasons and not historical reasons. Also every historical game is extremely different. You cant expect it to be an exact representation of ww2, being a game.
In my ongoing US game, the Allies are getting pulverized in Africa, we’ve finally managed to throw the Axis out of Northeastern Canada, the USSR capitulated, and my focusing on the Pacific until now has led to me ERASING the Japanese Navy.
@@thecatfather857 the sense of my comment is perfectly rappresented by your game. The soviets, if not played, are too weak. They always collapse if the allies doesn’t invade europe
Can someone explain to me what was happening in Norway between Germany(i presume) and Italy in all dlc? How was the ai taking territory from each other
@Duplizapper was commie and went after, what i assume, were liberated or supervised states in its core territory. German AI is very aggressive if the ideology lets it and it has reason.
No? Otherwise it would be completely impossible for germany to win. also a competent udssr player will have no problem against an ai germany. against human players...well you need to cooperate with the allies like it happend historically
@@drdestrukt1367 uh no? You cant just look at the military aspect. Without allied supplies they would have just starved and surrendered after a few months
Am at min 1:06 and already convinced that playing hoi4 without any dlc is the best way. (then again i don't play that game and am weirdly fasinated by it)
What's up with this absurdly competent Italy in both your games? I literally can't leave Italy alone for 5 seconds without seeing a popup that Rome has fallen to like Greece or something.
You people need to realize that noone would play germany if your only job is to loose. If you want a completely historical experience, watch a movie. But for people like me who mostly plays germany in multiplayer its already extremely frustrating because the soviets alone are an overpowered pain in the ass if playerd by a competent player.....But you still gotta fight the allies as well
@@andrefasching1332 I am talking AI not players. It's not to lose. It's so it makes sense, especially when you play on historical, yet Germany 99% of the time either wins or pushes the soviets so far that they barely recover(and on best days they reach Poland before allies take over germany), it should have more outcomes bruh. And if you want better balance for multi(completely irrelevant), then make rules or mods lol.
@@Workingatm just because you dont have any friends to play with dont call multiplayer irrelevant. Quite a lot play the game MP And not. it does not make sense to make an already hard germany game impossible. It would take out the fun of both nations. -Germany because why should i waste hours if my only job is to loose. -Soviets Whats the point if its easy to win. I play them because its a challenge Maybe just try the game on a harder difficulty. The soviets gets extremely op pretty fast on the higher ones. But dont turn them into a Second USA. We need better balancing. Not the contrary. The game is still meant to make fun and give us the abiltiy to conquer the world no matter if we play Germany, Portugal or Tibet. i could be a dick and just say git Gud but il just cite you "if you want better historical accuracy, make rules or mods"
@@andrefasching1332 lol giant L. I play multi, and? Multi(especially "competitive") is not the main content, and you don't always wanna play majors, I am talking about AI vs AI scenarios. Changing the difficulty won't change that. I am pretty sure changing the AI to do more appropriate things for the soviets(and perhaps the Germans to focus more on dday since they oftenly get annihilated by it) would be good enough, but you're making a deal out of it xD
@@Workingatm ah yes . Multiplayer is not the main content but Ai vs Ai is i remember all the times i clicked the "dont play, just watch" button and waited for 7 hours until the game was over. Also you should really check your grasp on logic Russia having a hard time=needs a fix Allies breaking the germans neck with D-Day like in reality because germany just does not have enough troops for two fronts= germany needs a fix. Also whats with the "lol" and "giant L" bullshit? Are you a kid or some self proclaimed "hardcore Gamer" kind of guy or what is your problem?
i hate how despite the No Step Back DLC, Germany still always takes moscow and isn't pushed back in 44/45 if the soviets capitulated after losing leningrad, stalingrad, and moscow then Germany would always win
Soviet AI needs a rework and Allies and Germany should be nerfed. Soviets must outperform the Germans in industry and production and produce tank divisions instead of shitty infantry designs. Actually this is general problem with the AI, no one makes decent tank divisions to be able to breakthrough the enemy lines.
How is No DLCs more historically accurate kind of. Also all I feel like some DLCs did was make the AI more annoying w/ naval invasions in the fact they will naval invade random places consistantly
Technically all nations go historical without DLC, with the notable exception of France and Poland which can go some historical routes (both can do a basic form of the four primary ideologies), America can intervene or not and Japan can go monarchist or stay fascist. Everything else is not going to change even if historical is turned off.
I strongly very strongly recommend using the World Ablaze mod. The game is awful without it installed and excellent with it installed. Most importantly, it can actually be quite challenging unlike the unmodded game.
Чел, тут как когда, у меня Германия очень часто тупит, строит вместо танков пехоту и посылает ее в лобовую на линию мажино. Хотя с последними патчами это исправили. А ии с СССР не справляется, слишком сложная для компьютера задача - подготовиться к войне и при этом адекватно пройти сталинские чистки не расстреляв в них все командование. У меня получалось несколько раз, как итог, в самом худшем сценарии немцы у меня даже Минск не взяли, а в наилучшем были разбиты в приграничных боях и я прям как в пропоганде" бил противника малой кровью на его же территории. Имба в этой игре - игрок. Поэтому если знаешь как играть - советский союз наваливает ого-го, в лейте ему вообще равных нет.
@@Alex-Romul США лёгкая страна, гораздо легче чем СССР, она просто большая, и контролить сложно, но это человеку, компу пофиг. Страна с кучей фабрик и ресов, ещё и на другом континенте.
Yeah but do you have the free updates? Some free updates gave new technologies. Armies and Trees. Example Finland and Italy. They win agaisnt many other who dont have such charity.
Downloadable content. You have to pay most of the time for them. They add extra thing's to the game. For example in this game they add focus trees for countries.
Как достучаться до парадокс,что бы они сделали советский союз сильнее?Я в каждой игре вижу как СССР отдают Москву, Ленинград,Сталинград.Советский союз очень слаб и меня это расстраивает.
I really liked the randomness without any dlc because it would always be a toss up in the spanish civil war but now with all the dlc nationalist spain always wins :(
“I fear no man, but that thing”
Italian Norway
“It scares me”
Thichslavia
My first full game of vanilla Hoi4, Japan got part of Wales at the end of the war, creating the Welsh Shogunate. I think this was historical mode too.
@@forgemetal9289at least someone recognizes the Welsh as a nation
In the first several dozen historical games I played as Germany throughout my time playing HOI4, Italy would always try to take Scotland, wakes, northern England, Canada, India, Australia, and Norway, for whatever reason.
@@SomeoneOnTheInternet855never heard of her
all dlc: unrealistic
no dlc: unrealistic
Real
The reason is because he is a stupid ai
Es un juego :b
Si se quiere algo realista, se lee libros del tema
@@Bolitadewien просто есть такая вещь, как исторический фокус, по нему страны должны идти исторически, но практически всегда советский союз проигрывает третьему рейху даже с историческим фокусом, лучше убрать такую настройку, чем так позориться
а так да, игру можно назвать песочницей, так как возможностей тут вполне достаточно, чтобы радикально изменить мир 1930-х, будь возвращение священной римской империи или присоединение доминионов к британской короне
it was funny how in the DLC version, Germany finally lost the war, then immediately tried to invade around Poland again. It's like the Allies turned around and Germany immediately went around for a second go at it.
Ngl Germany seems to be programmed to invade Poland, lol
Operation Unthinkable. Nuff Said.
Third go actually
Like the Napoleon after the first war
Playing Napoleon
Italy in All DLC: I am weak...
Italy in no DLC: UNLIMITTED POWER
Romania in no DLC: Hah, amateur
i feel its the other way around
Wait for italy rework lol
then it caps to italy
bro did we even watch the same video? in no dlc, yugoslavia wasn't conquered, and it actually conquered the italian peninsula and survived til the end
I love how in the "no dlc" part Italy is literally destroying everyone in Africa
Hela Safari
But they fail to beat Yugoslavia
@@piercecowley255 maybe because Yugoslavia attacked them on surprise
@@JiafeiProducts6969 but all, after an k itial attack, italy should have been able to mobilise and push them back
@@piercecowley255 yeah like Idk what happend
no matter whether you have the dlc or not, the AI was always butcher peace conferences
VE day in 1948… Paradox really needs to teach the Soviet AI how to rebuild and start pushing back the Germans by 1943
Yeah
Idk man in mine the soviets kill germany by 1944
Might be a lack of American land lease and too many lost factories before they could be transferred to the Ural.
But that's just a theory.
@@El_Presidente_5337 A game theory!
@@El_Presidente_5337 lend lease accounted for 4% of Soviet production (not counting the products produced before the war). Soviet citizens also collected valuables comparable to the volume of lend lease into funds to help the front.
And again, Germany nearly defeats the Soviets, and falls only because the Allies occupy all of it after D-Day. It's non-historical
They need to make Soviet victory hinge on trucks.
Like in real life.
Soviet Union in histoical should be able to 1v1 Germany at least. They are never able to every single game.
@@Alpffine of course they are. In reality the Soviets would have starved to death without allied supplies.
In the game i easily manage to defeat the germans on my own, without any support on any but the highest difficulty
(also it would be completely gamebreaking to make the Soviets even stronger. Where would be the point in playing the axis if you cant even defeat the soviets but still have to deal with the allies.)
Not gonna lie, NSB did the Soviets dirty in so many ways
Actually it is the right version, cause even stupied AI on the Soviet Union save its soldiers much more, than it was in real life.
Yugoslavia taking over Italy made me chuckle
In every fucking game weird shit happens like Germany not going around the maginot but through Italy or Italy naval invading Normandy while Germany is pushing through the maginot because the French moved their armies to garrison Africa
Technically speaking germany did go around maginot
From the other side
I really love switzerland gameplay in both versions
Same
2:45 no dlc ussr accidentally take a little bite
Funny that them are both not historically correct, in a way or the another. (However the "All DLCs" was the most wrong.)
P.S.: I was never going to expect so much likes, thank you...?
Its just historical focus tree wise. The strength of the nations is more made for balance reasons and not historical reasons. Also every historical game is extremely different. You cant expect it to be an exact representation of ww2, being a game.
@@nein236 Alright, seems fair
*cough cough* Italian norway *cough cough*
Yeah germany needs to attack Denmark and norway before they attack the benelux
@@nein236 Yes. But the game should demonstrate a least a relatable what if feeling.
as a no dlc player, this is very accurate excluding the part where I play germany and loose ww2
Same
2:37 Gotta love DLC Democratic German beeing like "Ooooh... Round 2!"
2:28 All DLC Germany tried to go for a round 2 😭
Italian Norway Italian Norway
Why in every hoi4 game the soviets in 1945 are collapsing While the allies are marching into berlin? Also in historical game.
Murica
@@Falsealarm. america doesn't do shit
Because the Allies are too over powered and need a nerf, and the Soviet AI needs a rework.
In my ongoing US game, the Allies are getting pulverized in Africa, we’ve finally managed to throw the Axis out of Northeastern Canada, the USSR capitulated, and my focusing on the Pacific until now has led to me ERASING the Japanese Navy.
@@thecatfather857 the sense of my comment is perfectly rappresented by your game. The soviets, if not played, are too weak. They always collapse if the allies doesn’t invade europe
Can someone explain to me what was happening in Norway between Germany(i presume) and Italy in all dlc? How was the ai taking territory from each other
An occupied state can be passed to a different nation within your faction in order to free up men.
the allies navally invaded norway and italy was the one who retook it so they owned the provinces
honestly the no dlc timeline is my favorite
Oh my, what was that peace deal at the end of all dlc gameplay...
@Duplizapper was commie and went after, what i assume, were liberated or supervised states in its core territory. German AI is very aggressive if the ideology lets it and it has reason.
there was no peace deal from what i could tell
To be fair no DLC Germany would have collapsed faster if it wasn't for Vichy France being the D-Day-Master
I think USSR need a fix because his always been crush hardly by Germany
No? Otherwise it would be completely impossible for germany to win.
also a competent udssr player will have no problem against an ai germany. against human players...well you need to cooperate with the allies like it happend historically
@@andrefasching1332 i assume they mean the a.i needs to be fixed
ai needs to be fixed not the country. if you play it right the soviets can absolutely be strong
@@andrefasching1332 historically the udssr basically defeated germany on its own.
@@drdestrukt1367 uh no? You cant just look at the military aspect. Without allied supplies they would have just starved and surrendered after a few months
And yet afterwards europe is still a mess
With or without it every match ends up ending in anarchy
No matter the circumstance, abandoning operation sea lion is always a mistake.
Both sides have something in common though: Why I'm a fortface.
No matter if they landed, they'll never get past by forts I just planted :)
in no dlc Yugoslavia was literlly the only one left in mainland Europe and kind of like a super power who did something 💀
Am at min 1:06 and already convinced that playing hoi4 without any dlc is the best way. (then again i don't play that game and am weirdly fasinated by it)
The no dlc was much more historical and a less bad peace treaty lol
thats why you would better to use road to 56, its more historically accurate, and has more national focuses thanhoi4 with dlc
Germany lost to the allies twice in the DLC map
Funny how the start of 1940 No DLC is more realistic
I love how Italy kept invading Ireland and than losing than winning than losing again
Объясните мне почему третий рейх всегда отдает Норвегию Италии
I love the dlc that lets itlay get norway, very historically accurate
So, with no DLC everyone is a little tougher?
I appreciate how similar they are. DLCs just chance some mechanics but don't adjust the core game.
yo where tf is lenningrad
above Estonia to the right
@@tsarnickolai I didn't mean in literally
@@tsarnickolai 🤓🤓
@@tsarnickolai Above it on the map
@@tsarnickolai that's the cringiest response you could've made
What's up with this absurdly competent Italy in both your games? I literally can't leave Italy alone for 5 seconds without seeing a popup that Rome has fallen to like Greece or something.
why does it take no dlc germany longer to take france than with all dlc like there is no dlc buffs germany right?
Как говорил великий человек:
"Шо то хуйня, шо это хуйня."
Italian Norway just bugged me
The USSR never makes a comeback like irl.
Fix when?
You people need to realize that noone would play germany if your only job is to loose.
If you want a completely historical experience, watch a movie. But for people like me who mostly plays germany in multiplayer its already extremely frustrating because the soviets alone are an overpowered pain in the ass if playerd by a competent player.....But you still gotta fight the allies as well
@@andrefasching1332 I am talking AI not players. It's not to lose. It's so it makes sense, especially when you play on historical, yet Germany 99% of the time either wins or pushes the soviets so far that they barely recover(and on best days they reach Poland before allies take over germany), it should have more outcomes bruh. And if you want better balance for multi(completely irrelevant), then make rules or mods lol.
@@Workingatm just because you dont have any friends to play with dont call multiplayer irrelevant. Quite a lot play the game MP
And not. it does not make sense to make an already hard germany game impossible. It would take out the fun of both nations.
-Germany because why should i waste hours if my only job is to loose.
-Soviets Whats the point if its easy to win. I play them because its a challenge
Maybe just try the game on a harder difficulty. The soviets gets extremely op pretty fast on the higher ones. But dont turn them into a Second USA.
We need better balancing. Not the contrary. The game is still meant to make fun and give us the abiltiy to conquer the world no matter if we play Germany, Portugal or Tibet.
i could be a dick and just say git Gud but il just cite you "if you want better historical accuracy, make rules or mods"
@@andrefasching1332 lol giant L. I play multi, and? Multi(especially "competitive") is not the main content, and you don't always wanna play majors, I am talking about AI vs AI scenarios. Changing the difficulty won't change that. I am pretty sure changing the AI to do more appropriate things for the soviets(and perhaps the Germans to focus more on dday since they oftenly get annihilated by it) would be good enough, but you're making a deal out of it xD
@@Workingatm ah yes . Multiplayer is not the main content but Ai vs Ai is
i remember all the times i clicked the "dont play, just watch" button and waited for 7 hours until the game was over.
Also you should really check your grasp on logic
Russia having a hard time=needs a fix
Allies breaking the germans neck with D-Day like in reality because germany just does not have enough troops for two fronts= germany needs a fix.
Also whats with the "lol" and "giant L" bullshit? Are you a kid or some self proclaimed "hardcore Gamer" kind of guy or what is your problem?
Why in all dlc germany was fighting italy in norway?
I have only played hoi4 with no dlc the struggle is real
bro the fucking border gore at all dlc oh my god why
BBA does its thing
Italy having Norway and Yugoslavia getting Italy💀
i hate how despite the No Step Back DLC, Germany still always takes moscow and isn't pushed back in 44/45
if the soviets capitulated after losing leningrad, stalingrad, and moscow then Germany would always win
Soviet AI needs a rework and Allies and Germany should be nerfed. Soviets must outperform the Germans in industry and production and produce tank divisions instead of shitty infantry designs. Actually this is general problem with the AI, no one makes decent tank divisions to be able to breakthrough the enemy lines.
Without DLC: WW2 Simulator game.
With DLC:What if WW2 Simulator game.
what happened in 1949 from march 25 to 26 on no dlc
The only thing I dislike is how often turkey gets involved. They shouldn't if historical focuses are on.
germany with DLC: ROUND 2 I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!
how did crimea survived for 7 years in non dlc one
why do the anarchist only uprise with the dlcs? i thought they were a major part in the civil war
because they are a DLC addition
how tf did germany capitulate on no dlc version? The allies didn't have Vienna, nor Berlin nor Frankfurt.
How is No DLCs more historically accurate kind of. Also all I feel like some DLCs did was make the AI more annoying w/ naval invasions in the fact they will naval invade random places consistantly
do yourself a favor and get a mod that deactivates random naval invasions for AI
@@zero.Identity PLEASE GIVE LINK!!!
Hoi4 v1.0 vs modern hoi4 with dlc
What happened to all the comments why can I not see them.
How does you make the map look flag like that, I really like it.
I honestly think HOI ai wants the HRE splitting to happen, but on the entire world
Was this with historical or non historical ai
Technically all nations go historical without DLC, with the notable exception of France and Poland which can go some historical routes (both can do a basic form of the four primary ideologies), America can intervene or not and Japan can go monarchist or stay fascist.
Everything else is not going to change even if historical is turned off.
Switzerland just chillin
But México has a civil war no?
Why is germany so much weaker in dlc version?
Still waiting for Liechententeins available on HOI4
italia la nerfearon horrible :v
ahora se parece mas al real :v
Does it really make a difference if you play with a dlc or not?
yes alot id never touch the game without dlcs anymore
All dlc is non historical mode 2
I strongly very strongly recommend using the World Ablaze mod. The game is awful without it installed and excellent with it installed. Most importantly, it can actually be quite challenging unlike the unmodded game.
why is Free France and Vichy France warring for all DLC
When will Bee War 2 be released?
Greece with no dlc is straight up eating Italy
DLCなしとありではこんなにアフリカ戦線の状況違うんだ(´-ω-`)
はい、そうですね！
and yet both are still GODLY unrealistic.
Почему никто не замечает, что Германия никак не может захватить Крым в таймлапсе с длс?
Italy lost me 2 iron man games in a row with all dlc. Not trusting them to hold mainland europe...
За столько лет ИИ так и не научился делить территории.
И да, СССР в этой игре ослаблено сильно.
Очень неисторично он себя чувствует.
Чел, тут как когда, у меня Германия очень часто тупит, строит вместо танков пехоту и посылает ее в лобовую на линию мажино. Хотя с последними патчами это исправили. А ии с СССР не справляется, слишком сложная для компьютера задача - подготовиться к войне и при этом адекватно пройти сталинские чистки не расстреляв в них все командование.
У меня получалось несколько раз, как итог, в самом худшем сценарии немцы у меня даже Минск не взяли, а в наилучшем были разбиты в приграничных боях и я прям как в пропоганде" бил противника малой кровью на его же территории. Имба в этой игре - игрок. Поэтому если знаешь как играть - советский союз наваливает ого-го, в лейте ему вообще равных нет.
@@kingslayer2981 с США он вполне справляется. А там своих фишек хватает. А ИИ СССР очень тупой.
@@Alex-Romul я имел ввиду ИИ сссра не справляется с управлением СССР.
@@kingslayer2981 Ну а у США справляется, хотя страна не легче в управление.
@@Alex-Romul США лёгкая страна, гораздо легче чем СССР, она просто большая, и контролить сложно, но это человеку, компу пофиг. Страна с кучей фабрик и ресов, ещё и на другом континенте.
Is no DLC Free Guys?
just google the price of the game before you ask such a question
@@zero.Identity k
Yeah but do you have the free updates?
Some free updates gave new technologies. Armies and Trees. Example Finland and Italy.
They win agaisnt many other who dont have such charity.
They made Italy too good?
The problem with Africa in no dlc hoi4 is that Vichy France will come in from Syria because they immediately join the war.
italy when i play united kingdom
Но что изменилось?
Dlc mean?
Portugal just chilling
What not having no step back does to a mf
One thing we can say for sure is that the USSR is waaay to weak in both versions
Both. Soviet is a weak. Alliance is too strong.
Ah yes Italian Norway
Таки в чём разница?
now do one with no dlc+no patches
Yugoslavia doesn't need no DLC, he can take on the whole world 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
My belief for historical games is that if you dont interact with anything history stays the same. It should you who changes history not the shitty ai
What is DLC
Downloadable content. You have to pay most of the time for them. They add extra thing's to the game. For example in this game they add focus trees for countries.
@@geodim3904 thx
Who doesnt know about the Italian invasion of norway.
Как достучаться до парадокс,что бы они сделали советский союз сильнее?Я в каждой игре вижу как СССР отдают Москву, Ленинград,Сталинград.Советский союз очень слаб и меня это расстраивает.
“it’s unhistorical” ITS A GAME THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MOSTLY UNHISTORICAL THATS THE POINT
You would be right if this gameplay wasnt on *historical* ai
do again
I really liked the randomness without any dlc because it would always be a toss up in the spanish civil war but now with all the dlc nationalist spain always wins :(