I cannot wait for this to come in stock. Everything he says is correct. I have hundreds of molds and cast for every form of firearm. In my 38 years casting, these are the easiest to cast slugs or even projectile that uses a pin. I had shootable rounds within the 4th casting. The segmented pins all come out super easy. I heated up my mold for 10 minutes on the top of my Lee Big Dipper, and 4 castings later I had near perfect rounds. All came out with little effort using the ball removal cavity of the mold. By round 20, they were perfect. They had zero marks on them. They looked like factory cast silver jewelry. The machining and thought that went into these moulds is shocking. More so, in an hour I was firing those Twister rounds into wet magazines and examining bullets with 2, 3, and 4 segments, and what they did to the books. These molds get you up shooting that fast. I just cut a shotcups sides off and used the lower portion of the shotcup as a gas seal. No screw used to attach it either. In my smoothbore it hit dead center of the target and the slug fragmented each time in horrific ways. The best slug moulds in the world. Bar none! Now to buy them all as they eventually come into stock. I want everything for 12 and 20 ga from this company.
Thanks for your work ! How do these fare out of a smoothbore accuracy-wise (out to 50 or 100 yds) ? My guess would be the wide bands are designed to take the grooves of a rifled barrel, correct ? What ASM model would you advise for a smoothbore shooting paper target at 50 to 100 yards ? I've had my eyes on a SH-SH 3-segment thin band mold or a Twister 5-segment mold as I don't want to depend on Italian type clip-on wads that are hard to come by... Thanks
Sure thing; first one is just water with some Palmolive dish detergent to de-grease it. The second is sprue plate oil that came with some of my moulds from NOE. I couldn't tell you the exact composition but I'd say it's a fairly thick machine oil.
The manufacturer is backordered right now but I am third on the list and expect to have a large shipment sometime in June or July likely. I will be shipping worldwide at that time.
TATV, are you planning on carrying these in your online store? Also, I love the matte finish on your slugs. Do you just dry tumble in walnut medium? You may have answered this previously but I only started watching recently when I ran across your stuff on the RL Network. I can't wait to see how these shoot compared to the Svarog paradox. I would hope they would just work with the driving bands as is. Needing to use a modified wad screwed through the cavity is a bit tedious. Though, with that said, Svarog on their FB page mentions screwing those to cork filler wads, adjusting the column as needed to get the right drag on them for your gun.
Yes I have an agreement in place with the manufacturer to import and retail them here. I will be shipping worldwide, but predominantly to North America I imagine. Yeah I like the way they look too; its an extra step, but it's pretty simple. I just tumble them in either corn cob or walnut media for about an hour or so. Smooths out any sprue or mould lines.
Now that you mention it that *does* sound familiar; but in answer to your question, no I don't use anything special with it. I think the way they manufacturer has finished the surface of the pins, combined with the shape, makes it simple enough to extract the slug that nothing else is really required.
The Best Slug I've ever cast for fully rifled barrels. Grizzly! Taofledermaus old video on this slug is pretty good! And I think he used a cylinder bore
Thanks for your quick informative video. I'm interested in less than 2&3/4" shells so your showing that was great! Reduced recoil fragmenting slugs out of a 1&3/4" shell is perfect for home defense!
@@TATVCanada Would It be possible to modify a 7/8ths oz. Lee key drive mold so the key drive is eliminated and fracture lines are put in it? Would a custom CNC shop be able to produce that? I dont have any modeling software or 3D printer.
@TATV Canada, with the ASM Grizzly Shock Paradox molds, I do not see a hole all the way thru the molded slug, like there is in the Svarog Zveroboy. However, do you think with a slug from the ASM mold that I could drill a small hole thru the ASM slug in order to fasten a wad to the slug with a small wood or machine screw? I kind of like the idea of the wad staying with the slug over a longer distance for more stability...
I cannot wait for this to come in stock. Everything he says is correct. I have hundreds of molds and cast for every form of firearm. In my 38 years casting, these are the easiest to cast slugs or even projectile that uses a pin. I had shootable rounds within the 4th casting. The segmented pins all come out super easy. I heated up my mold for 10 minutes on the top of my Lee Big Dipper, and 4 castings later I had near perfect rounds. All came out with little effort using the ball removal cavity of the mold. By round 20, they were perfect. They had zero marks on them. They looked like factory cast silver jewelry. The machining and thought that went into these moulds is shocking. More so, in an hour I was firing those Twister rounds into wet magazines and examining bullets with 2, 3, and 4 segments, and what they did to the books. These molds get you up shooting that fast. I just cut a shotcups sides off and used the lower portion of the shotcup as a gas seal. No screw used to attach it either. In my smoothbore it hit dead center of the target and the slug fragmented each time in horrific ways. The best slug moulds in the world. Bar none! Now to buy them all as they eventually come into stock. I want everything for 12 and 20 ga from this company.
Considering getting all the models and just being done with it
JS, that's what I usually do, but it would be a substantial investment.
It looks well made .
It really is; these are some of the nicest aluminum moulds I've ever seen.
I'm curious about the balance. Looks like they are ass heavy and would try to flip when fired.
Doesn't seem to be an issue
Thanks for your work !
How do these fare out of a smoothbore accuracy-wise (out to 50 or 100 yds) ?
My guess would be the wide bands are designed to take the grooves of a rifled barrel, correct ?
What ASM model would you advise for a smoothbore shooting paper target at 50 to 100 yards ? I've had my eyes on a SH-SH 3-segment thin band mold or a Twister 5-segment mold as I don't want to depend on Italian type clip-on wads that are hard to come by...
Thanks
Can you share the two liquids used in the mold prep part of the video ?
Sure thing; first one is just water with some Palmolive dish detergent to de-grease it. The second is sprue plate oil that came with some of my moulds from NOE. I couldn't tell you the exact composition but I'd say it's a fairly thick machine oil.
@@TATVCanada looks almost similar in color to 2-stroke oil. I think that is what FortuneCookie and Full Lead Taco use as well is 2-stroke.
That could very well be; someone else once mentioned chainsaw oil to me, too.
hi how can we buy from Turkey
Can it use in not riflied and not contain paradox shotgun?
We're can I purches
how would this perform in a smooth bore shotgun barrel?
Depends heavily on the load data and firearm but they work well for me.
any place to get them in the US?
The manufacturer is backordered right now but I am third on the list and expect to have a large shipment sometime in June or July likely. I will be shipping worldwide at that time.
@@TATVCanada good to know!
@@TATVCanada I suppose this question needs answering again, recent event's and all that
What do you recommend for a complete loading system for Slugs
Personally I like the mec Jr 600, Lee bottom pour lead melting pot, and Asm moulds.
TATV, are you planning on carrying these in your online store?
Also, I love the matte finish on your slugs. Do you just dry tumble in walnut medium? You may have answered this previously but I only started watching recently when I ran across your stuff on the RL Network.
I can't wait to see how these shoot compared to the Svarog paradox. I would hope they would just work with the driving bands as is. Needing to use a modified wad screwed through the cavity is a bit tedious.
Though, with that said, Svarog on their FB page mentions screwing those to cork filler wads, adjusting the column as needed to get the right drag on them for your gun.
Actually just saw your reply on another commentor's post about starting to possibly ship these world wide in June/July. That is awesome.
Yes I have an agreement in place with the manufacturer to import and retail them here. I will be shipping worldwide, but predominantly to North America I imagine.
Yeah I like the way they look too; its an extra step, but it's pretty simple. I just tumble them in either corn cob or walnut media for about an hour or so. Smooths out any sprue or mould lines.
Great video, even if I'm in Europe I'm planning to get one of those mold real soon!
What product are you using to "lubricate" the mold at 1:41 please?
That's a mould oil that came with some custom moulds I purchased on castboolits.gunloads.com
so how do they shoot?
Upcoming videos.
Great video. Do you use beeswax with these molds ?
For fluxing, or something else?
I use a Lee 7/8 slug mold they recommend beeswax for lubrication
Now that you mention it that *does* sound familiar; but in answer to your question, no I don't use anything special with it. I think the way they manufacturer has finished the surface of the pins, combined with the shape, makes it simple enough to extract the slug that nothing else is really required.
do you have 100 yard bench rest accuracy test?
Some, but I'm redoing a whole pile with larger sample sizes.
The Best Slug I've ever cast for fully rifled barrels. Grizzly!
Taofledermaus old video on this slug is pretty good! And I think he used a cylinder bore
How do these shoot in smoothbores?
So far, so good.
You still sell asm molds? I emailed a few days ago no response
I am not doing any business with Russian companies right now due to the war in Ukraine.
Thanks for your quick informative video. I'm interested in less than 2&3/4" shells so your showing that was great! Reduced recoil fragmenting slugs out of a 1&3/4" shell is perfect for home defense!
Or for little guys like me ha.
@@TATVCanada Would It be possible to modify a 7/8ths oz. Lee key drive mold so the key drive is eliminated and fracture lines are put in it? Would a custom CNC shop be able to produce that? I dont have any modeling software or 3D printer.
By the fact they are called paradox I suppose they are ment to be used with semi rifles paradox barrels?
As it's translated from Russian, I wouldn't bet on it.
That makes sense, someone told me two-stroke oil ?
@TATV Canada, with the ASM Grizzly Shock Paradox molds, I do not see a hole all the way thru the molded slug, like there is in the Svarog Zveroboy. However, do you think with a slug from the ASM mold that I could drill a small hole thru the ASM slug in order to fasten a wad to the slug with a small wood or machine screw? I kind of like the idea of the wad staying with the slug over a longer distance for more stability...
I did find the ASM Sh-Sh and Twister molds do have holes all the way thu
You probably could, but it seems like a lot of hassle.
So are these intended for use in rifled barrels? Anybody have any experience shooting these?
I haven't tried them in a rifled barrel yet, but I'm definitely keen to do so.
Very nice I like and you will be selling these?
Yes indeed sir.
If these work well ina cylinder bore ill buy
Send them to Taofledermaus!
I have some new designs coming out this year that I likely will send to him.
@@TATVCanada, Yes!!!