Survivor Queens: Parvati Shallow vs Sandra Diaz-Twine - The Traitors
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- 14 years after Survivor: Heroes vs Villains, Parvati and Sandra face off again and this time in a game of deceit, treachery, and murder. Who will be crowned as the Queen?
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00:00 - The Duel Begins
04:28 - A Traitor Rises
18:56 - Cracks In The Armor
28:24 - Transfer of Power
32:48 - The End Is Here
I didn't need this for confirmation that Sandra is a better player than Parvati. Sandra already proved this years ago. People want to call Parvati the queen over Sandra so bad, but Sandra proves time and time again that she will outlast Parvati when it comes to reality TV
If only we could've seen the roles being swapped. Being a traitor always has a feeling of guilt.
@@JalebJay We’ll never know but I can’t help but think Sandra would’ve been better suited for that role. She did good as a faithful but I would’ve loved to see her as a traitor. I think she would’ve played it better than the other traitors
Sandra is always an amazing player!
Both Sandra and Parv had underwhelming games. Neither were particularly good.
@@jthopkins I think Sandra’s was fine for being a faithful. The point is she outlasted Parvati again
Sandra out there having to pull out the billard balls to illustrate her point so she can bring them near her level
Sandra played the better game. She was far better socially, however i respect Parv for not taking the easy way out and simply murdering Sandra, she let it play out and props to her for that
Honestly I just wish their dynamic got more screentime
But they’re also both smart enough players to not get distracted by a rivalry
"Yeah, drink that water you're nervous, aren't you?" - Janelle
My favorite line.
Legend has it that Parvati is still squinting to this day.
And Dan is still waiting to take his shot
Parvati was doomed the second Larsa said she felt Alan raised her hand next to her 😂😂 i was actually surprised she even survived the first few banishments.
And ngl i really thought Sandra had this one in the bag going into the finale. would've loved to see her play as a traitor
Also non-Survivor related, Phaedra really made this season interesting. She was a great addition! She's such great TV! And Peter surprised/impressed me the most out of all the non-competitive background castaways. I would like to see him in Big Brother.
"No, my mouth is dry"
love both, but i feel like you cant rly compare them because they’re kind of playing separate games (one being a faithful and one being a traitor)
This isn't a comparison, this is a battle.
@@OnceUponAnIsland i was more referring to the war i suspect will be going on in the comments lmfao
“Yeah, Sandra has braces.” 😂😂
I wish peppermint didn’t get out so early so we can see them be a trio longer. They teased it so much and I wanted to see how Parvati would navigate that while being a new traitor.
The gameplay of the Traitors this season is just kinda baffling (and i'm talking about all of them). Cirie did such a great job last season that it's hard to do it again. Parvati played too hard too early by trying to get Phaedra out early, Dan was too quiet, hears that he's too quiet and then blows up all the traitors games and Phaedra just didn't do anything for the most part and was acting too high and mighty. Dan is not cut out for a game like this and while it was great to see him again on the big screen I get why he didn't want to do reality shows again.
Yes the traitors this season were just awful. Dan made a bonehead move targeting a guy who could possibly have a world and then completely sabotaged Phaedra's game by outing her at the table
The format and duration of filming for this show din't allow Parviti to use her guiles (plus everyone knows her schtick).
Sandra is a huge target because of her 2 Survivor wins. Her social game was great (and expected), but was unlikely to take her to victory.
Phaedra does nothing isn't fair when her traitor team was against her immediately.
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It’s really great to get to see Sandra and Parvati competed with each other again after years. Even though Parvati’s gameplay this time seems to be a bit disappointing (but mostly she was screwed by Dan), I’m delighted to see Sandra performed really well until the last episode. Sandra’s social skill truly shines here and proves to us again and again why she is probably the strongest social player ever in Survivor history. And she could have won if others weren’t so braindead in the end and banished her in the last banishment.
the strongest social player in survivor is cirie. sandra was on the bottom the whole time in survivor. she kinda had the underdog edit (a la kelley wentworth cambodia but managed to pull through) when the season came down to all 4 villains left.
Both are Queens but Sandra's social game has proven to be better.
I found this channel because of Traitors because i didn't know who the hell half these people were. I hadn't watched survivor since Yul won, but I've watched so many of these videos...this is my youtube rabbit hole.
A Parvati/Sandra rematch is mildly interesting, but I think there’s another controversy which this can help settle. On Micronesia a last-minute rule change meant Parvati did not have to face her fiercest competition at FTC. Whether she could have beaten Cirie is a tantalizing open question, which is why I find it kind of hard to credit her as one of the all time greats.
Here you see Parvati in more or less the same starting position as that from which Cirie ruled the castle, with much less impressive results. It keeps me thinking Cirie might be the better of the two.
agreed. but heroes vs villains kinda cemented the fact that parv’s gameplay in micronesia wasn’t a fluke. love her and cirie tho.
Dan is the true traitor. Betrayed even the traitors
He can't help himself
Been waiting for this frrr
Sandra is the Queen…she won twice before it was even guaranteed. Parvati is the Princess. similar to Tony and Boston Rob. Tony is the King and Rob is the Prince. if you wanna call Parvati and Rob the Queen and King of Survivor then that’s fine but YOU MUST call Sandra and Tony the Empress and Emperor of Survivor
All I'm saying is Jeff Probst needs to get Peter Weber out to Fiji! Dude was the mvp of Season 2.
I would love that but I believe the last time they cast someone known from a different reality show to go on Survivor was Caleb from seasons 32/34 so as great as I think he'd be, it seems unlikely
Peter doesn't really fit Survivor for me. Considering he outsmarted Dan & did the Bachelor BB would definitely be more up his ally as I think it would be better fit for him.
3:22 I suspect she either watched Borneo back in 2000 and then lost interest, or else didn't watch it but absorbed some of its highlights through cultural osmosis. Either way, she hasn't thought about Survivor in decades, and now that she's suddenly reminded of it she must flog her brain to remember a few details out of context.
What comes to the top of her mind? Well, Greg eating a rat was a pretty big deal at one point, and so was the snakes and rats speech; conflate the two in a foggy and imperfect, memory and there you go, they're eating snakes. There are no rattlers in Borneo of course, but the diamondback is arguably the most iconic snake species in the US, so an American who doesn't get out much might unconsciously use them as a stand in for any snake.
And then of course, there's Richard Hatch's nudism; _everyone_ knew about that back then, and the way the show's publicity actively encouraged the casual audience (next to which what counts as a casual today would look like obsessive nerds who could ace your weekly trivia quizzes) to think of it as a much bigger component of his persona than it actually was. Add in the relatively iconic footage of the tribes making their way to tribal and back, and you've got naked hiking in the jungle.
The queen stays queen
I love all these people they had this season, Parvati was a goner from the jump by Larsa’s claim. Dan is my favorite Big Brother player ever but damn he played terribly and Phaedra was very underrated. Sandra played beautifully, if Kate was never brought back, she would’ve made to the finals. CT winning every damn show he goes on 😭.
Even though the winners were basically worst-case scenario, it was really enjoyable to watch Parvati and especially Sandra on this season. The Traitors is a different show than Survivor, and I don't consider non-Survivor shows when evaluating a player's Survivor resume (if this was Survivor, it would be impossible for Trishelle to win and nearly impossible for CT), but Sandra really did show why she's one of the two greatest Survivor players of all time along with Tony.
Good thing this is the Traitors and not Survivor, so CT was able to win. CT is one of the GOATs of reality competitions. Won the last 3 consecutive shows he’s competed on.
@@jthopkins No one is saying CT isn't a great Challenge player. He's top three all time in that world. The Challenge (and CT fans in particular) has the most sensitive fanbase of any show I've ever seen. It's not as difficult as Survivor. Which is totally fine. Not everyone wants to starve themselves on an island and possibly get blindsided at any time. Anyway, my comment was primarily about Sandra and what a great social player she is.
I don't know who the queen of Survivor is but the Queen of Traitors is Cirie. I highly suggest checking out her video on this channel if you want to see a masterclass in lying and manipulation. She had people crying and raging after the season because of how bad she outplayed them.
That was weird. They seemed really hurt that Cirie let them think she was faithful when she was really a traitor. But what else was she supposed to do? She didn’t choose to be a traitor, and unless I’m misremembering she didn’t have the option of turning it down when she was chosen. So her only option, apart from playing the role she was assigned to the best of her ability, was what? Deliberately playing in such a way that it would be easy to identify her? Or out herself altogether? 🤔
And some of them are still whining about it on Twitter to this day, lol.
Just saying I think the players in Australian traitors are really captivating and the show keeps mysteries from you unlike the US version. The us version feels like watching a group play ultimate warewolf with minigames
I am interested in watching the UK and Australian versions. I may do that after Survivor 46 ends.
Australia is just knocking it out of the park with game shows compared to the US these days. Both the AU Traitors and Australian Survivor are killing it.
@@OnceUponAnIslandAU season 1 and UK season 1 are definitely the best seasons to watch
@@Joker-sy4xrUK Season 1 just has so much crying, you'd think they are actually getting murdered
@@Abba_Fan true 😂😂. I think it has a lot of the best moments in it though and it’s cool seeing people thrown into a game like this with no experience or expectations. It also has Amanda so that’s like automatic top spot.
Even though Cirie had an amazing (and basically flawless) game in season 1, i think season 2 was way more entertaining. The poison scene was golden. Seeing Parvati and Sandra together again was so much fun! Both of them (alongside Phaedra) know how to do good TV! It was cool to see Dan and Janelle again as well.
Traitors isnt the same without claudia winkleman
"No, my mouth is dry" 🎆
I’m team Sandra all the way but I am so happy they have made peace as I am a Parv fan. Real fans realize both have places in the reality tv Hall of Fame.
Kinda giving a "nobody else is applying" vibe to see the same players across several shows. Or maybe "nobody else is interesting" which is a sad thought
Boston Rob and Deal or No Deal Island is this exact quote 💀
Parvati is a mean girl. She won survivor by Regina George’ing the island. She can definitely read people. But when she’s not in the “in clique” she turns cold which messes up her game.
People forget before the double idol move she didn't like any of the heros and they didn't like her. She isn't exactly Michele in likeability. She is a stategist.
Where can i watch this show?
Peacock
@@OnceUponAnIsland I see...
AND STILL we don't get to see cirie and sandra play together or against each other 😔
love them both but Sandra is more savvy
I love the traitors, and this is off topic, but I don't understand the hate that Janelle gets. I thought she was great on the show and deserved it. Maybe it's just because I liked and know the gamers players?
NGL, this game seems like a mess. Its a version of Mafia(or Town of salem for the younger gen) where the townsfolk either need pure luck to win, or wildly incompetent traitors.
and the fact they can get more money for getting rid of more people, directly contradicts the point of the game.
I honestly believe that Dan knew he couldn't survive without throwing Parvati under the bus, and he wasn't willing to do that. So knowing that he was going home, he purposely took a terrible shot at Phaedra so that he could give both of his fellow villains the best shot at winning. I refuse to believe that the person I saw execute strategy so flawlessly on Big Brother is the same man who waited six episodes to make a move and still couldn't think of anything better than that round table embarrassment, unless he took a terrible shot on purpose.
Keep in mind, episode 6 is somewhere between days 6 and 9 on this show. That's like week 1 or 2 on BB. Dan is not good when he has to play fast.
@@OnceUponAnIsland I would be more inclined to agree with you and say that Dan cracked under pressure in The Traitors if he hadn't been equally dead to rights in BB14 before thinking up the whole funeral thing (aka the greatest move in BB history) literally in one day while he was in solitary.
@@patrickperot6296 it's not really comparable because he still knew everyone in the bb 14 house for more than a month before the funeral instead of having to make a hail Mary with people he's known for less than a week.
despite parv being a traitor and sandra being faithful i’d hardly call it sandra vs parv since they were both on the same side of the factions basically all season, was kind of refreshing to watch tbh
Look, I know this video is all about Sandra and Parvati but for the most part, I’m just hear to see my boy Dan Gheesling. Was so glad to see him on my screen again.
The traitors this season were slow. There was no strategy. They staying banishing their shields
Parvati basically became a target after gaining too much suspicion and making fatal mistakes. And Sandr kept the situatuon good until final 5. And I think this season will a copium for Sandra fans lol
I like both of them. They have their own strengths and weaknesses in the game. Sandra did better on the traitors though.
Now do Jonny fairplay house of villian.
04:59
Dan is the best big brother player but if you dissect his game, he lays low both seasons for the first half or more. He was not the most social and the only shocking thing is that he had a bad strategy once heat was on him
Sandra is the queen! Love Parvati too. I was not smitten by Peter at all!
in full belief that if the traitors murdered trishelle instead of john, sandra mighta made it to the very end
in all seriousness, tho- sandra playing this like a numbers game (which it is!) and (if her post game interviews r legit) hoping to make the traitors like her and protect her was great. i dont think she’ll come back here, but man id love to see her in more non-survivor social strategy games
I could be mixing episodes, but didn’t Trishelle have a shield the night John was voted out?
i bet she dumped john because he took the whole pie (ment for the whole family) for himself LOL
I'm coming here as a Big Brother fan but tbh it felt like Parvati was held back by Dan (who I consider the BB GOAT). Both walked in as the biggest suspects in the show due to their reps but yet handled in so differently. Dan was so obvious in how he never talked game while no one wanted to interact with Parvati. Dan fell for what would be a standard BB bluff while Parvati knew right away that Peter lied about the shield. IMO if Parvati had a more competent partner she probably would have made it further, tho just like Sandra due to both being 2 of the greatest Survivor players of all-time no one would let them win the game.
Parvati will always be the queen
Dan single handedly destroyed the traitors game last season. But Sandra definitely played a better game than Parvati. If Kate didn't convince CT to vote Sandra out she could have won.
Well u can’t compare them here that well bc Sandra was a faithful and Parv was a traitor
This isn't a comparison, this is a battle.
Mj should have taken Sandra to the end so they could do to CT and/or Trishelle what those two did to MJ.
I know MJ was salty, but she should have played the game better, which she really didn't do very well all game.
Sandra got almost as far as she could go, because CT and Trishelle would’ve eliminated everyone at the firepit anyway due to their final 2 deal. Not sure how anyone could have broken those two up.
Maybe team up with Kate and MJ and then get rid of Kate at final 4?
They should have had Sandra as traitor. Seeing the cast, my first guess was Dan abd Parvati. Next season they’ll have Russell on as a traitor. They are a bit to on the nose
The American franchise of traitors is definitely the weakest one apart from Canada and it’s still awesome. If people even moderately liked US they should definitely watch Australian and UK traitors, New Zealand is pretty good as well although it feels pretty low budget
cirie queen of traitors
Sandra is, and always will be, the Queen. Enjoy Parvati, but she's not even close to the caliber of Sandra.
This guy will always find a reason to hate on Parvati. Parvati had basically been retired for 10 years. That is like asking Jordan to comeback right now.
Who hates Parvati?
Sandra has always been a better player
ITS so weird that Deontae Wilder best known for knocking people out is in this show😂
AND he quits.
Parvati literally lost the game because of Dan his “moves” were so dumb bro. Sandra did great I wish she worked together with Parvati they would have dominated
If you think Phaedra was a hoot, wait
Until they get Nene Leakes from the Housewives franchise. 😂
I found this season recap to be a bit disingenuous to some of what happened. Kate was a terrible liar in general. Phaedra actually did a fantastic job. Had Dan not thrown her name out there she could have gone the distance.
Parvati because she is prettier
This season proved definitively that The Challenge is the best show.
Lol. Johnny Bananas lost a Challenge final to Survivor winner Chris Underwood. Desi also won a final against Challenge winner Tori. And both Danny and Sarah easily navigated to the final in The Challenge World Championship. Trishelle would have no shot to win Survivor, and it would be nearly impossible for CT as well. He'd have to go on a Mike Holloway-style immunity run to make it to the end and still might lose the jury vote.
Did you watch season 1?
@@bigbuffguy9589 exactly The Challenge brought out the best in them.
@@OnceUponAnIsland CT would have known Cirie was a traitor
Cirie would have murdered CT. Look who she brought to the end in season 1 lol
You kinda made Parvati look like a bad player in the story. She played well until the shield lie. After that, she was still doing okay but she did make some bad strategic decisions
I don't recall lying about anything Parvati did or leaving out anything important. If so, let me know.
@@OnceUponAnIsland I didn’t say you’re lying. You’re just describing her game in a way that makes her appear like a goat.
That was not at all my intention, I am just conveying the story as I perceive it being told.
england traitor is better
People saying Sandra played a great game yet she never knew who was a traitor till she is told. Sandra just like survivor she was in the background like wallpaper
Look who’s a phaedra hater w/o having to say it❗️🤣 & Laying low and being off the radar means she didn’t do anything ? What a weird analysis. 🤔🤨
I don't hate Phaedra. In fact every week on our podcast I said I liked her and in this video I stated that she was working the social game. However, she did shaft talking with her fellow traitors outside of mandatory times and let them do all the dirty work.
this season sucked...eww...
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