And the best thing about this is probably most Americans and Latinos prefer people like that. If you go to Europe, you might meet many with the same taste in men or women as them (mostly if you are latin European). If people studied and instead of thinking of their dream guy being like that and criticize other's people taste, they should know that the more tan you get, the older you get, you might have waayy more skin problems like cancer too. That's why pale people look so young even later! The Korean beauty standards can be pretty harsh too, you can't be perfect and even if you are in the beauty standards, they will find a way to criticize you!
and no one on this planet wants to look black or have their skin, nose, lips and hair. im asina b ut id ratyher be white if not asian but never black. aging or no aging.
@@lt7378 Yeah same. Tho even among the whiter population there are some very lucky individuals whose skin maintains a great shape and aspect as they age, makes me always wonder if it's pure genetics or if they take good care as well.
Yeah it's forced that's why to have those all beauty standard many koreans have to undergo the surgery. They force themself to fit the unrealistic standard they make
Today I heard my biology teacher talking some things about Korean people, saying all men there looks like girls, they need some gender test to identify themselves (he didn't say these in front of the students, I heard this when I went to get some stuff in his office, he was talking to his assistant, it was shocking to see how he clearly doesn't know anything about Korea, but still critisizing people of there). It's so hard being different here from what you're supposed to be, I felt so angry, but I couldn't say something. Even if it doesn't come true, I wish people can get over this feminine, masculine, ridiculously high beauty standards sht and just accept how they look, cause there's nothing wrong with that. Other people aren't gonna live your life, so please just stop caring about others, it's way better this way.
@@tykenzajuuzoo681 he was even generalising BTS with all Korean men and Korea, clearly he doesn't know much. There was another guy saying, "Nah, Korea is good," then he slightly agreed. I was totally shook fr, he's even a doctor. My country is way too in the dark for the modern world.
Am I the only person who doesn't understand what's so special about Cha Eunwoo (as for me, he looks like an average Korean guy)?😅😅 I don't hate him, I may just not get the hype over him and his beauty🥲
I wonder why he never changed that. I mean the whole world is talking about him being orange and I doubt that that's a beauty goal anyhwere in the world. So why didn't he just use different products and stop looking like a freaking tangerine?!
Tbh, American beauty standards would not be fat but muscular. Korean beauty standards for women are unhealthy thin and American standards are impossible curvy.
@@12DAMDO most people in korea and america are at a normal weight too 💀 can we stop acting like europe is so special and different and not toxic? the european beauty standard still involves crazily underweight models
@@MissMoontree No, the liberals in america are pushing obesity as the beauty standard. The fact that they have "plus sized models" on sports illustrated covers now is just stupid
As an American girl, I like how Korean guys look. I wouldn't say I like when a guy is over muscular like that. I just don't like the look of it. Skin color doesn't matter to me at all. Also, these girls clowning guys who take care of themselves are insane 😂 I personally want a guy who invests in his physique and taking good care of his skin. I HAAAAATE that rugged look. EDIT: I'm noticing a fair amount of fetishization is going on in the thread 🤣 I just want to make it clear that I DO NOT fetishize nor promote the fetishization of Korean men or any other man. I probably should've clarified when I said "I like how Korean guys look". I like the lean physique and the fact they place heavy emphasis on self care. A man of ANY race can do this and still be attractive to me. Just wanted to point that out. This comment isn't meant to being down other groups of men. Sorry if it was taken that way.
oh yeah! same here. I'd say just as many women in the US like this type of man as the other type... it's strange how so many try to deny we exist? haha.
I agree. Those k pop guys are very attractive to us women. At least they try to look good. Men here where I live don’t even try and get fat . They grow beards and bald head is in style where I live. Not my cup of tea at all.
You are comparing 2 opposites. A man doesn't need to be overly muscular and look like a bear to look like a man. But there is nothing mainly about a guy wearing make-up. For some of the same reasons as for girls, but also, if guys look like girl, it will be inherently aversive to most women, beacuse even though we know it,s make up, deep inside in our genes, it will feel like they are girls, which does not work for reproduction. Evolution doesn't happen as fast as for us to have been over this yet.
Yes, unfortunately that is true. I get so mad at women who think the guy they date HAS to be over 6’. It’s on the same level as a guy saying any girl he dates has to be D-Cup or bigger and less than 110 lbs.
@@lt7378 Being a D cup or bigger and less than 110lbs is almost impossible whithout surgery. Remember boobs are made out of fat, and if you have that much fat there you will have it elsewere too. However being 6 foot is not impossible.
@@yourtherapist154 Yes, you are right. Unfortunately, some men base their choice of women on the impossible breast size/weight standards . Those men aren't worth having so just as well.
Symmetry, vocal quality, clean skin, some form of grooming practice (Because it's an indicator of self-worth and mental health) lack of general mutations/malformities, age related indicators, fertility indicators etc. Beauty standard is more universal than people give it credit for. It just becomes specific on smaller things, but there are a host of factors that are absolutely universal. Most extreme deviations to that formula only happen when there are extreme deviations in social structure/progress, such as places that struggle with food availability tend to favor persons who are more overweight, because it's an indicator that they have enough food, which is a bit more important than other factors. Survival comes first. Once that's covered, all the other standards, which are all just signs of "health genes" come into play. Being tall is an indicator of nutrient density while both in gestation and childhood development. Our ancestors were all shorter than we are today. It's also likely that taller persons tended to procreate more or have more successful offspring, so it gets selected by pressure. Not a single one of these things pop up out of the ether. They're all a play or variation on evolutionary drive.
@@yourtherapist154 There has actually been a few studies about this. While the vocal minority talks a lot about really big boobs, the majority actually want a sizable B to a full C. And I say those terms, because cup size doesn't mean anything alone. A small band and large cup is what indicates large breasts. You can have a E cup and a large band size and proportionally be similar to someone with a much smaller cup size. B-C is entirely possible and extremely common in someone with a feminine figure who is normal weight range and body fat% range. Because you are right, if you don't have enough fat on the body, you also won't generally have very big boobs. Fat is also what makes us look youthful. So it's a game of balance and loss. Nature is not very nice.
I think the beauty standards on both sides are toxic as hell. You should be able to present yourself however you wish. I know it sounds cheesy but it's true beauty is only skin deep. It's the personality and character that should matter. The looks should be a bonus. Although I never understood my fellow Americans and their hang-ups about men who actually take care of themselves. So quick to call them gay. Yet they play sports were they smack each other on the ass all day and that's fine.
@@tanja1102 I’m 21 and I’ve always known outer looks matter but now tht I’m in the job market I can truly see the way I’m treated with makeup on vs with no makeup on. Looks truly do matter and to say otherwise is laughable. Yes inner beauty matters too but it rlly only matters when talking about a partner the rest of the world isn’t dating you so to them it’s just the outside
@@jillmont3342 I wasn't saying that looks don't matter. I was saying that looks shouldn't matter. Looks fade. And why wouldn't you expect everyone in your life to accept you for you. Whatever that is. If strangers are only judging by looks then that's even worse. You can't judge a book by its cover. If someone looks like a Hollywood model when they interview to be a technician then based off looks they would never be hired. But that could have been the best technician they ever seen. I'm not saying these things don't happen. I am saying they should not. If someone only likes me because I'm all made-up. Then they will no longer be a part of my life.
@Tatjana Please don't let others shortcomings bring you down. I don't know what's going on in your life but sometimes people hurt others because they are hurt themselves. I'm not saying you should do something about. I'm only saying try not to let their life and issues effect your life. I hope that people stop treating you like a doormat because you are right inner beauty is what matters.
I'm an Asian who tans really easily. I admit it is hard to love my skin colour especially when the majority of my family and friends are naturally fair. I used to joke that my skin tone would be more appreciated overseas than here in Asia.
Overseas tan Asian and I'm here to say you might not like yourself but someone on this side of the world is super freaking jealous of you! It just twists my mind when my parents are like my daughter so dark 😢 and my pale friends are like she's always been tan; she's lucky
They're "created" (selectively pressured by happenstance) by evolution. All of it is a play on natural drives that have to do with survival and procreation. Nature isn't our friend. It's not the standard by which we should hold ourselves. In fact, being human is about giving those standards which we don't choose and inherently understand are unfair and about weeding people out the finger. So we have science and medicine. We save and protect (to varying degrees and more as time goes on) the disabled, misfortunate or otherwise not by natures standards the exemplary of our species. But we're still subject to a lot of natural instincts. I mean, caring about beauty at all or thinking beauty matters and being ugly or called ugly is an insult is a great example of this. It's not just why care about beauty standards? Why should we care about beauty? Why should we find some people attractive and some not just looking at them? That said, I don't think it's a bad thing, nor are we remotely over it. I think it's just important to be aware that this stuff isn't made up, we didn't just one day decide these things. We've found them important for all our time as being homo sapiens. Also, other creatures are under the exact same thing, but they don't have make-up, plastic surgery, a better chance at nutrition and health care as we do to even the odds of genetic lottery.
If you're ever feeling bad about how you look, just remember that beauty standards vary so much from place to place you're bound to be considered physically beautiful somewhere. Also, an attractive personality is usually considered more important to most people anyway. Also, also, I am beautifuuul no matter what they say... so screw you Ken. /j
I was watching Lawless Lawyer, and I couldn't get over the skinny frame of the supporting character. I was raving over that until my gf cautioned me and told me I am bullying her in my mind. I had to check myself. I don't know if it's wired into Nigerians but a woman has to be thick or fleshy before she pops on the attraction radar. Seeing other cultures with totally different standards is really humbling and made me realize that we are all cultured into our sense of right and wrong.
@@amairplanebrrrpppptttttt9094 people are just naturally thicker in Nigeria, I keep wondering how it’s possible to have butts shaped like that on the skinniest of frames
Funny enough the "tan" trend mainly applies to White people or lighter mixed people. You would think the tanner you are = the more beautiful. Yet look at how poorly people still view dark brown skin. The most you can be is a golden bronze with a little brown. The tan standard was made for white people to experience that exotic tan, yet excludes people who naturally have that darker complexion. To this day, I have yet to see a beauty standard that favors dark brown skin. Especially on women. People like to say "it goes both ways" but it honestly doesn't. The world still values lighter skin. Pale, beige and bronze tan. That's the extent people are okay with. Anymore is "dirty" poor, criminal or impure. People are like "I love how beautiful dark brown skin is" nowadays. Or "I'm so jealous, it shines so beautifully in the sun". People talk how hard it is being pale, yet I STILL don't think they would choose to be dark. Because there are no postive stereotypes to cash in from. Worldwide white skin = education, morality, health, beauty. Then the opposite applies as well. People praise dark skin and might get a little tan, but would never actually want to BE born dark skin.
To me it seems like you are not from European descent. Because if you were you would know that usually the whiter you are the more negative comments you get. My skin is so fair that usually the lightest foundation shades come out too orange/brown (especially with brands that don’t offer a lot of variety). And especially in my youth I got a lot of comments on my skin, but even with men they’ve told me they had to get used to my skin color. Sure if I would go into other countrys people probably would favor my skin but that’s not the standard where I live.
I love how he flashes Cha Eun Wo but doesn't show an USA counterpart, like he can't think of who could compare 😂😂😂 but really, no one can, the kid looks unreal
@@_itzmidzy_ literally every single blue yed, 6" tall man with a jalwine can. hes only comparable to gays in the west not actual men with jawlines and hair and height.
@@rainydaysatz probably, but keep in mind how entranced Koreans are about Eunwo. By their standards he's truly perfect. In western standards I think only Chris Hemsworth would compare with the level of projected perfection 🤷
Me, a white femboy looking man: *starting to think maybe id be considered attractive to Korean girls* "Well in Korea, we prefer men who are over 6ft" Me whose 5"4 or something like that: 👁️👄👁️
This is so true!!!! I used to HATE the way I looked until I moved to Germany and then Korea with my family over the last 5 years. and now I realize it was just the American stereotypes that made me hate myself and think I could never find a partner.
@@tanja1102 your kind of mentality is also kind of messed up. Thinking oh i don't look good according to American standard But i surely would just be one of the most pretty girl when i go to Korea. Just accept yourself as you are. And stop trying to think i would just look GORGEOUS according to people in korea.
@@tanja1102 oh my bad. Your comment just seemed like that thats why i said it. But my intention was not to hurt you. I just wanted to convey the msg that you should love ur self no matter what instead of trying to value yourself by the beauty standards of different cultures and countries.
@@malinet3203 loving yourself is pointless if everyone treats you poorly. I had many hair colours and styles over the years, and even though my face and fashion style hasn't changed at all, I could definitely see the difference in how people treated me. So the environment and what they perceive to be attractive has a big impact on your quality of life, that's just a fact and has nothing to do with whether or not you value yourself.
Actually I wish that American men would take care of themselves by taking care of their skin (not about makeup, unless they want to do that, but at least daily cleaning and using a moisturizing sun screen if not averse to that), eating healthy, exercising (even light exercise three times a week makes a difference); etc.. The average American guy often does things to excess without thinking of the repercussions (i.e., overeating, alcoholism, etc..), showing off how cool he is in his excessiveness and "indifferent" attitude, whether feigned or real, then his health and looks decline way too young because he just thinks it is all going to "happen" as it should though he has abused his own body and ignored his own need for self care. Ageing is natural, but people can do what it takes to improve their own lives, or not. I see so many men that just look awful as they get older, and often they act like they are unhappy. There are real consequences to ignoring your health/happiness. It's no one else's job to make YOU happy or healthy - just yours. If you are depressed or sick, get help, get started. I'm no damn expert. It's just that I would love to see more men in my surroundings feeling good in their later years, living longer, quality lives.
I don't have a specific type, if someone is pretty/handsome then it is what it is. IMO Brooke Shields and Eunwoo are two the most beautiful people I've ever seen.
I agree that beauty standards can be pretty toxic, but honestly, giving a shit and taking care of yourself is really attractive. Not just physically, but in terms of lifestyle/personality, actually caring and putting in effort in a way that is physically and mentally healthy is extremely attractive.
being healthy honestly makes one beautiful and attractive. Take care of your physical and mental health aswell as hygiene. Pay attention when is it that you feel like your best self and you’ll glow. Let’s kill the standards
I remember a time when my mom saw Seventeen on TV, I was getting all excited and the first thing she bothered to say was "Are they wearing lipstick?!" and I was like yeah and? Then she told me that they look soft and overly pretty, and that a man without some facial hair looks like a woman (I despise facial hair and hairy body overall and she knows it so it was a personal attack at that point), so yeah we kinda ended up arguing over it then she never tried saying any shit about any person I consider attractive again lmao
Tbh I was just like you but when I grew older it slowly shifted into more muscular, tan and bearded men. I assume younger teenage girls like softer looking men because it's less intimidating and they feel familiar. And when they grow older and finally have a strong sense of identity, they are much more open to the classical imagine of masculine men. I still love Korean men's look, but not the ultra-soft and fluffy kind.
@@BashaerB-h2c In my teenage years, I love pretty kpop boys. I'm 26 now and I move from actual pretty boys to less pretty boys. I prefer more unique look like Bobby from iKON which is still pretty but not in classic kpop pretty boys type of pretty. Or actors like Lee Dong Wook which is still pretty but has masculine look too. I absolutely love DPR IAN these days. His face without makeup is pretty but with his dark, smokey make up, he's just my type💕 I could say I prefer edgier looking guys nowadays. Like vampire looking guys look. I don't think I would be liking typical buff af hairy guys though.
Make-up was first made for males in ancient times. In nature males have more vivid colours and display. Why should women have an unfair advantage in the dating game? I wear make-up, pluck my eye-brows, and have a strict skin-care routine. It works and I just got a notification from Tinder telling me to stop playing hard-to-get 😅 (I get hundreds of matches daily). Men in the West are influenced to smell bad, have bad broken skin, and sheer mass to be "handsome". Hilarious 😂
Well obviously they’d want make up to enhance their features. I don’t see anything wrong with men wearing make up, it’s sad how people assume they’re gay just bc of make up
Most of the men in kdramas are prettier than me for sure, it's a fact but yet l love to watch, not for the looks of people, but for the story. And for me Mr. Kim Byung-chul from my favorite kdrama pegasus market is so handsome and attractive, he is my type, of course in dreams as a fan, l think he's 100% korean legend.
Watching this as a german girl is kind of interesting 😅🙈 because we see both of these countries as having unhealthy and extreme beauty standards. But no matter what your attitude towards make up, plastic surgery, fake tans etc. is - at the very least Korea is right about sunscreen 😅🙌
how he mentioned the points in a comedic way but that's exactly how these standards are toxic, one of my korean friends said she would never date or marry an american because they look so not put together and my other roommate said she would never date a korean coz they are so pale what if they shine in the sun like a vampire, they both argued about what considered as beauty standards in the respective countries are despised from an opppsite perspective, which in a sense none of them were wrong actually, they were kinda right as these beauty standards are toxic and judge people based on their appearance rather than their personality or behavior. I was just sipping my lemonade and watching them fight 😂
Its interessting how different it is . As someone from the US, I've seen people tease others for being pale comparing them to ghosts. I had a friend say she badly wants to tan and that she's so pale she'd blend in at a white sand beach.
as an south east asian, we have the same standards as the koreans, pale skin is a status of wealth and beauty. its harder to stay pale hear near the quarter, so we go through extensive measures to keep our skin as light as possible.
I found it sort of interesting about the white skin beauty standard, I always thought it was because of something related to colonists and europeans, because that's what it's like where I live, and I just thought that influence spread throughout Asia regardless of whether a country was colonised or not. I had no idea it stemmed from wealth and status.
It also happened both in Ancient Egypt and in Western European countries during the C19th-20th. You can see it in Egyptian art where people of lower social class are depicted as very tanned (outdoor life), higher classes as fair-skinned (indoor life) - and then in W Europe, pre-Industrial Revolution, the "I don't have to work" ideal was fair skin, but, as a LOT of lower-paid jobs quickly moved from outdoors to indoors, a signal of a higher social status became the ability to go outdoors and get a tan...
The European standard of tanned beauty was created by the National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI) during the 1930s, when they pushed for an extensive system of outdoor physical education and a return to the "Ancient Aryan naturalistic customs" of their "ancestors". The tan is Nazi, and bad for the skin, but it looks so nice
To be honest In korea, Tan used to get called as a sign of like poorness And pale used to recognize as rich. That's why old korean traditions and queens used to wear fairly white power over their face ( you might have seen drawing or a drama which contains queens with too much white powder ) But i think it's now a bit changing ( not all of it ) But america has inverse rules. . . Like ???
@@auricia201 @Auricia well its all rooted with LOOKING RICH and PALE you know?! :) tbh its really toxic but you must have to adopt it once you get into korean culture. I am not against it but in my opinion it may give a hard day for people with tanned skin
@@miyounge I'm European, and the bad comments about skin color I hear is about people being "white as squids". And the idea that "a healthy tan look" is because you are able to afford vacations abroad is real, so it's also rooted in "Looking Rich". No one has to adopt any beauty standard, no matter where we live. But we Should take care of our skin, and sunscreen is part of it
@@auricia201 First of all person's bleach their skin to attain this beauty standard this could be harmful. Second of all wearing sun screen isn't going to make you not get a tan. Sunscreen only protects you from harmful UV Rays it doesn't 100% shield you from the sun. This leads to some persons avoiding the sun completely which can also be harmful. Conclusion beauty standards are harmful to everyone no matter the country. Especially if you weren't naturally born with the features needed to fit these standards.
@@miyounge I agree and some people like to bring “westerners achieving tan skin is the same” no it’s not. In Asia, there’s society pressure to look fair, discrimination, being made fun of…it’s way worse
These days people are not confident about their own body 😨, the best thing any human can have is confidence , nature already made everyone beautiful/handsome, people just need to be fit because after being fit your real beauty/handsomeness will come to your body.
A lot of the men in South Korea are toxic and fetishize American girls. 😢 I’ve had lots of experiences like this and can never find a Korean guy who doesn’t assume stereotypes about me or assume I’m a porn star.
Yeah I heard a lot of foreign women being harassed and expected to put out easily by horny korean dudes. Especially in clubs foreign women get approached for one night stands.
The guy who had a meat only diet, and was diagnosed with bubonic plague and many other diseases that were not known at the time. He's basically today's Nikocado Avocado (just the evil emperor kinda version)
I don't know how to say this without it being weird, but I think Korean people are some of the most attractive people in general. I'm gay, but something about Korean dudes is so attractive to me.
Maybe cause most of them have pretty faces. Clear light skin, shaved, a lil bit of make up and stylish hair. I agree with you. Here in the US, most people go for dudes that are masculine, beards and are tan. I don’t want people to think that I’m “fetishizing” Korean men but I would say that they have good beauty standards
Weirdly I've actually never met a "feminine" Korean dude. I only see them on TV so I didn't know they existed in real life. I dated a Korean dude when I was young (yea he was over 6ft, but that was only a bonus). He was a typical American soldier so I can't even say he cared about his looks or even a nice guy. Best friend growing up is also Korean. Coincidentally, he's also gay lol. Not androgynous or anything and also not 6ft, but he did latch on to the GQ thing when it first started picking up in the 90s/00s. Anyway, yea I know it's weird to say since black women are also often fetishized so I never know how to say it without it sounding bad or offensive or whatever
So true 😂 Australian, good looking, well groomed and slender, and I absolutely wear make-up. I hate to say that men in the West are influenced to look ugly and smell bad 🤢🤮 Sheer mass does not negate fat and ugly. I'm proud I'm no hairy-backed gorilla. Why should women have an unfair advantage? After all, make-up was first made for men, and in nature males tend to have more vivid colouring and display. It works, and people blush and/or act spiteful and the envy shows. Some women will proclaim they won't date a guy who looks in the mirror more than them 🤣 To that I would say is "honey, you won't make the cut anyway 😏" 😅
Umm, masculine looking men don't look ugly and smell bad. They are real looking men that's all. Slender and make up doesn't exactly scream manly. But to each his own but seriously get over yourself.
Meaning you would not be much help around the house, right? Would makeup help you chop a pile of wood faster? Or would your good looks impress the angle grinder, you think? How about parading your ego while you're mucking out stables? And better leave those hammers and clicker knives alone- you would be useless in my leather workshop. A woman (not a girl but an adult woman) wants somebody who can make things happen. Somebody who is not afraid to get dirty or get his hands rough. What good is there in keeping a well-manicured peacock around?
@@jvnd2785 Leather workshop hey? FYI I happen to be a formrr champion shooter, and I can most certainly cure leather. I built my own foundry, and my main source of income is supplying research labs with agrochemicals in the public and private sectors. I am a business owner and I have travelled the globe. I do not believe in limiting my scope as you do. Excusing your neglect of self-care with being a manual labourer is a cop-out.
I think it's only a look that middle school girls and early high school girls like. Which is typically the demographic since teenage girls are the biggest fans.
As an American girl who is pale and skinny I was always told to eat more and that I need to go outside more and get a tan. Also I showed some of my friends some men I find really attractive and they told me I must be bisexual because Korean men look like women- This video is very accurate
Classismm!! Like, that's what most beauty standards come down to. Yet I rarely see people talking about class or classism and how it's actually the largest divider in every nation and among every group.
But this also creates a false dichotomy of one beauty standard being better than the other, when both are very much detrimental. Colorism is a huge issue in Asia as well, but he paints simply explaining the roots of these standards as somehow making it alright, which is really just an appeal to history and status quo more than anything lmao
@@MariaSantos-uo3pb i dont think he painted them as "alright." It was more so a historical fact as to why Koreans favour pale skin. Beauty standards often stem from historical circumstances. Having a reason doesn't make them okay, everyone understands that.
@@mcbedo6568 oh come on lmao- one of these characters is clearly painted as more irrational than the other, right down to their very tone. The historical fact wasn’t talked about in a vacuum, it was in tandem with how it was presented as a sort of rebuttal to the American pov
@@MariaSantos-uo3pb reason being the hypocrisy of the American in question for judging the Korean beauty standard when they have their own set of equally toxic beauty standards
Well, you got one part of it right. American women don't like men who are prettier than we are. We've gotten used to seeing Idols with makeup on stage. Seeing selfies they've posted, bareface, is a treat. But so many have had plastic surgery, they're still prettier than we are! And seriously, in america, women just want a guy who's taller than us. But the point is moot since American women are certainly not the Korean ideal. Kpop Idols all want their women to have brown eyes, to be petite, and innocent!🤣🤣
I'm a white American teaching in South Korea. My students were so shocked when I told them that it's the beauty standard for lighter-skinned people in the US to want to have tan skin. I told them that when I was little, my sister and I would put coconut oil on our skin and sit outside to try and get tan. We would only turn red and have major sunburns before peeling like an onion and coming out just as white as before. 😭 I remember us being so upset. 🤣
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both the beauty standards are toxic as hell
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Agreed, Oh my God, let's just people be the way they like!
@@pani_bunny120 exactly
I so agree!!
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@@zb1planet aww ty dear
And the best thing about this is probably most Americans and Latinos prefer people like that. If you go to Europe, you might meet many with the same taste in men or women as them (mostly if you are latin European). If people studied and instead of thinking of their dream guy being like that and criticize other's people taste, they should know that the more tan you get, the older you get, you might have waayy more skin problems like cancer too. That's why pale people look so young even later!
The Korean beauty standards can be pretty harsh too, you can't be perfect and even if you are in the beauty standards, they will find a way to criticize you!
@@meharbano7855 happy jin day ❤❤
Not even close.....
,,when you look eighty when you are 40´´
had me rolling
Same 😂
Unfortunately there’s a lot of truth to that tho. I’ve seen it.
and no one on this planet wants to look black or have their skin, nose, lips and hair. im asina b ut id ratyher be white if not asian but never black. aging or no aging.
@@lt7378 Yeah same. Tho even among the whiter population there are some very lucky individuals whose skin maintains a great shape and aspect as they age, makes me always wonder if it's pure genetics or if they take good care as well.
lmao I was screaming lmao
Forced beauty standards in general is toxic.
Natural beauty should be the standard.
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That way we could appreciate everyone's beauty and all it's diversity 🙂
Well said.
Yeah it's forced that's why to have those all beauty standard many koreans have to undergo the surgery. They force themself to fit the unrealistic standard they make
isnt natural beauty standards also toxic
Today I heard my biology teacher talking some things about Korean people, saying all men there looks like girls, they need some gender test to identify themselves (he didn't say these in front of the students, I heard this when I went to get some stuff in his office, he was talking to his assistant, it was shocking to see how he clearly doesn't know anything about Korea, but still critisizing people of there). It's so hard being different here from what you're supposed to be, I felt so angry, but I couldn't say something. Even if it doesn't come true, I wish people can get over this feminine, masculine, ridiculously high beauty standards sht and just accept how they look, cause there's nothing wrong with that. Other people aren't gonna live your life, so please just stop caring about others, it's way better this way.
Literally facts only
It's kinda worrisome that a biology teacher said that-
@@tykenzajuuzoo681 he was even generalising BTS with all Korean men and Korea, clearly he doesn't know much. There was another guy saying, "Nah, Korea is good," then he slightly agreed. I was totally shook fr, he's even a doctor. My country is way too in the dark for the modern world.
@@tykenzajuuzoo681 biology my ass
@@lowkeyemilia lmao
Seriously though, Cha Eunwoo is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen. He literally is so super handsome.
@eggandegg1103 not just face tho👀
i heard that cha eunwoo has golden ratio according to korean beauty standards !!!😍
@@darshnisingh3010 are you mocking that person?
Cha Eunwoo is one of the most beautiful people in the world, legit. Man or woman, hard to find someone more gorgeous. Handsome and pretty.
Am I the only person who doesn't understand what's so special about Cha Eunwoo (as for me, he looks like an average Korean guy)?😅😅 I don't hate him, I may just not get the hype over him and his beauty🥲
tRump isn't tan he's Orange.
lmao yea
...orange?! I thought he is watermelon
I wonder why he never changed that. I mean the whole world is talking about him being orange and I doubt that that's a beauty goal anyhwere in the world. So why didn't he just use different products and stop looking like a freaking tangerine?!
Like orange peels actually.
@@koolvein_klein he/she means the color orange not the fruit orange lol
"your 'thicc' to us, that's just fat"
lmfaoooo
Tbh, American beauty standards would not be fat but muscular. Korean beauty standards for women are unhealthy thin and American standards are impossible curvy.
@@MissMoontree i wouldn't know, i'm European where most people are just normal weight
@@12DAMDO most people in korea and america are at a normal weight too 💀 can we stop acting like europe is so special and different and not toxic? the european beauty standard still involves crazily underweight models
@@hyukleberry5567 nah muricans are fat :P
@@MissMoontree No, the liberals in america are pushing obesity as the beauty standard. The fact that they have "plus sized models" on sports illustrated covers now is just stupid
As an American girl, I like how Korean guys look. I wouldn't say I like when a guy is over muscular like that. I just don't like the look of it. Skin color doesn't matter to me at all. Also, these girls clowning guys who take care of themselves are insane 😂 I personally want a guy who invests in his physique and taking good care of his skin. I HAAAAATE that rugged look.
EDIT: I'm noticing a fair amount of fetishization is going on in the thread 🤣 I just want to make it clear that I DO NOT fetishize nor promote the fetishization of Korean men or any other man. I probably should've clarified when I said "I like how Korean guys look". I like the lean physique and the fact they place heavy emphasis on self care. A man of ANY race can do this and still be attractive to me. Just wanted to point that out. This comment isn't meant to being down other groups of men. Sorry if it was taken that way.
oh yeah! same here. I'd say just as many women in the US like this type of man as the other type... it's strange how so many try to deny we exist? haha.
I agree. Those k pop guys are very attractive to us women. At least they try to look good. Men here where I live don’t even try and get fat . They grow beards and bald head is in style where I live. Not my cup of tea at all.
@@lt7378Either bald or messy hair, messy beards, way overweight, sloppy clothes, etc. Give me a good looking Korean guy any day.
@@lt7378 Thats because men created the American beauty standards and women just went along with it until they realized there’s another option
You are comparing 2 opposites. A man doesn't need to be overly muscular and look like a bear to look like a man. But there is nothing mainly about a guy wearing make-up. For some of the same reasons as for girls, but also, if guys look like girl, it will be inherently aversive to most women, beacuse even though we know it,s make up, deep inside in our genes, it will feel like they are girls, which does not work for reproduction. Evolution doesn't happen as fast as for us to have been over this yet.
Them coming to agreement because they like tall men killed me 🤣 it seems like that is one beauty standard that most of the world have.
Yes, unfortunately that is true. I get so mad at women who think the guy they date HAS to be over 6’. It’s on the same level as a guy saying any girl he dates has to be D-Cup or bigger and less than 110 lbs.
@@lt7378 Being a D cup or bigger and less than 110lbs is almost impossible whithout surgery. Remember boobs are made out of fat, and if you have that much fat there you will have it elsewere too. However being 6 foot is not impossible.
@@yourtherapist154 Yes, you are right. Unfortunately, some men base their choice of women on the impossible breast size/weight standards . Those men aren't worth having so just as well.
Symmetry, vocal quality, clean skin, some form of grooming practice (Because it's an indicator of self-worth and mental health) lack of general mutations/malformities, age related indicators, fertility indicators etc.
Beauty standard is more universal than people give it credit for. It just becomes specific on smaller things, but there are a host of factors that are absolutely universal.
Most extreme deviations to that formula only happen when there are extreme deviations in social structure/progress, such as places that struggle with food availability tend to favor persons who are more overweight, because it's an indicator that they have enough food, which is a bit more important than other factors. Survival comes first. Once that's covered, all the other standards, which are all just signs of "health genes" come into play.
Being tall is an indicator of nutrient density while both in gestation and childhood development. Our ancestors were all shorter than we are today. It's also likely that taller persons tended to procreate more or have more successful offspring, so it gets selected by pressure.
Not a single one of these things pop up out of the ether. They're all a play or variation on evolutionary drive.
@@yourtherapist154 There has actually been a few studies about this. While the vocal minority talks a lot about really big boobs, the majority actually want a sizable B to a full C. And I say those terms, because cup size doesn't mean anything alone. A small band and large cup is what indicates large breasts. You can have a E cup and a large band size and proportionally be similar to someone with a much smaller cup size.
B-C is entirely possible and extremely common in someone with a feminine figure who is normal weight range and body fat% range. Because you are right, if you don't have enough fat on the body, you also won't generally have very big boobs.
Fat is also what makes us look youthful. So it's a game of balance and loss. Nature is not very nice.
I think the beauty standards on both sides are toxic as hell. You should be able to present yourself however you wish. I know it sounds cheesy but it's true beauty is only skin deep. It's the personality and character that should matter. The looks should be a bonus. Although I never understood my fellow Americans and their hang-ups about men who actually take care of themselves. So quick to call them gay. Yet they play sports were they smack each other on the ass all day and that's fine.
@@tanja1102 I’m 21 and I’ve always known outer looks matter but now tht I’m in the job market I can truly see the way I’m treated with makeup on vs with no makeup on. Looks truly do matter and to say otherwise is laughable. Yes inner beauty matters too but it rlly only matters when talking about a partner the rest of the world isn’t dating you so to them it’s just the outside
@@jillmont3342 Or friendships. Or really any connections that you value in your heart.
@@jillmont3342 I wasn't saying that looks don't matter. I was saying that looks shouldn't matter. Looks fade. And why wouldn't you expect everyone in your life to accept you for you. Whatever that is. If strangers are only judging by looks then that's even worse. You can't judge a book by its cover. If someone looks like a Hollywood model when they interview to be a technician then based off looks they would never be hired. But that could have been the best technician they ever seen. I'm not saying these things don't happen. I am saying they should not. If someone only likes me because I'm all made-up. Then they will no longer be a part of my life.
@Tatjana Please don't let others shortcomings bring you down. I don't know what's going on in your life but sometimes people hurt others because they are hurt themselves. I'm not saying you should do something about. I'm only saying try not to let their life and issues effect your life. I hope that people stop treating you like a doormat because you are right inner beauty is what matters.
Here's your shocker for you: You don't have to adhere to beauty standards. You can ignore them if you like!
I'm an Asian who tans really easily. I admit it is hard to love my skin colour especially when the majority of my family and friends are naturally fair. I used to joke that my skin tone would be more appreciated overseas than here in Asia.
same :') i got tanned real bad during scout practice back in 8th grade and majority of my relatives made tons of fun for it .
samee
@@itzsafa_14 that's so sad that they made fun of you for it 😭
All of you guys have beautiful skin! Never let a beauty standard define you
Overseas tan Asian and I'm here to say you might not like yourself but someone on this side of the world is super freaking jealous of you! It just twists my mind when my parents are like my daughter so dark 😢 and my pale friends are like she's always been tan; she's lucky
Beauty standards are created by people and are still running by people and
The fact is WE ARE PEOPLE
👍💯
WE THE PEOPLE
They're "created" (selectively pressured by happenstance) by evolution. All of it is a play on natural drives that have to do with survival and procreation.
Nature isn't our friend. It's not the standard by which we should hold ourselves.
In fact, being human is about giving those standards which we don't choose and inherently understand are unfair and about weeding people out the finger. So we have science and medicine. We save and protect (to varying degrees and more as time goes on) the disabled, misfortunate or otherwise not by natures standards the exemplary of our species.
But we're still subject to a lot of natural instincts. I mean, caring about beauty at all or thinking beauty matters and being ugly or called ugly is an insult is a great example of this.
It's not just why care about beauty standards? Why should we care about beauty? Why should we find some people attractive and some not just looking at them?
That said, I don't think it's a bad thing, nor are we remotely over it. I think it's just important to be aware that this stuff isn't made up, we didn't just one day decide these things. We've found them important for all our time as being homo sapiens.
Also, other creatures are under the exact same thing, but they don't have make-up, plastic surgery, a better chance at nutrition and health care as we do to even the odds of genetic lottery.
I was not expecting that ending😂
Which one? The Trump or the height one?? :)
the punchline hit me like a full speed freight train
If you're ever feeling bad about how you look, just remember that beauty standards vary so much from place to place you're bound to be considered physically beautiful somewhere.
Also, an attractive personality is usually considered more important to most people anyway.
Also, also, I am beautifuuul no matter what they say... so screw you Ken. /j
whos ken?
YES this deserves more likes ! Here b4 it blows up :)
@@Abyss777 it was a failed attempt at a joke 😅 but replace "Ken" with the name of anyone who might have ever said you weren't beautiful. Still works.
@@kaym.5058 I thought you were referring to the Ken doll since he likes Barbie girls 😄
I was born without a jaw, and my nose is missing, am I still beautiful?
I'm so so sorry for laughing at this but the "anorexic vampire" part got me wheezing 😭😂😂😂😂😂
Same..🤣🤣🤣
That’s exactly my type unfortunately 😂 plus melancholic
I was watching Lawless Lawyer, and I couldn't get over the skinny frame of the supporting character. I was raving over that until my gf cautioned me and told me I am bullying her in my mind. I had to check myself. I don't know if it's wired into Nigerians but a woman has to be thick or fleshy before she pops on the attraction radar. Seeing other cultures with totally different standards is really humbling and made me realize that we are all cultured into our sense of right and wrong.
your reflection is really appreciated and it makes me think about my own biases myself as a korean person, thank you 🥰
isnt it because it's a status of wealth too? People who are thicker are wealthier because they can afford to eat well?
@@amairplanebrrrpppptttttt9094 people are just naturally thicker in Nigeria, I keep wondering how it’s possible to have butts shaped like that on the skinniest of frames
@@amairplanebrrrpppptttttt9094 bruh no 🤦🏾♀️ Africans in general tend to have a heavier muscle mass. We’ve always favoured coke shaped women
I watched it too.
Funny enough the "tan" trend mainly applies to White people or lighter mixed people. You would think the tanner you are = the more beautiful. Yet look at how poorly people still view dark brown skin. The most you can be is a golden bronze with a little brown. The tan standard was made for white people to experience that exotic tan, yet excludes people who naturally have that darker complexion.
To this day, I have yet to see a beauty standard that favors dark brown skin. Especially on women. People like to say "it goes both ways" but it honestly doesn't. The world still values lighter skin. Pale, beige and bronze tan. That's the extent people are okay with. Anymore is "dirty" poor, criminal or impure.
People are like "I love how beautiful dark brown skin is" nowadays. Or "I'm so jealous, it shines so beautifully in the sun". People talk how hard it is being pale, yet I STILL don't think they would choose to be dark. Because there are no postive stereotypes to cash in from. Worldwide white skin = education, morality, health, beauty. Then the opposite applies as well. People praise dark skin and might get a little tan, but would never actually want to BE born dark skin.
Yeah unfortunately
To me it seems like you are not from European descent. Because if you were you would know that usually the whiter you are the more negative comments you get.
My skin is so fair that usually the lightest foundation shades come out too orange/brown (especially with brands that don’t offer a lot of variety).
And especially in my youth I got a lot of comments on my skin, but even with men they’ve told me they had to get used to my skin color.
Sure if I would go into other countrys people probably would favor my skin but that’s not the standard where I live.
@@JustMe-vs1kj Wouldn't be a problem in your country like a century back I suppose.
@@JustMe-vs1kj either way dark skins are still treated poorly in the beauty standard, although I’m sorry you have to go through that as well :(
@@JustMe-vs1kj. Yes. Pale skin is frowned on here where I live, too. It was really bad in the 1970s when I was a teen.
I spat my drink at "he got that maga booty" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And it's with that conclusion that I'm now sure that i'm universally unattractive hahaha
Same
I'm still waiting for the beauty standard that values a "big nose" 😂
Jk, I would prefer if there were no beauty standards at all
@@auricia201 A lot of women and men in the Middle East have large noses and are considered beautiful.
@@MA-mv7qz they have and they are, but a big nose is still not the ideal, even there
Eun Woo is perfection, this from an American middle age woman, South Korean men are so handsome.
actually you’ll be surprised at how well-built Cha Eunwoo is. He’s 183cm, works out almost daily and his arms are perfect gosh
He can’t be “skinny”.
Tbh, both standards are handsome. From Chris Hemworth to Cha Eun-woo. Both men are fine as hell in different ways
Right. Try different males before judging
true, i genuinely find both types attractive
I love how he flashes Cha Eun Wo but doesn't show an USA counterpart, like he can't think of who could compare 😂😂😂 but really, no one can, the kid looks unreal
No one can what..😂
@@user-a2thed469 compare to Cha Eun Wo 😉
@@QuBoSRoadStudio yess, no one can compare to Eunwoo
@@_itzmidzy_ literally every single blue yed, 6" tall man with a jalwine can. hes only comparable to gays in the west not actual men with jawlines and hair and height.
@@rainydaysatz probably, but keep in mind how entranced Koreans are about Eunwo. By their standards he's truly perfect. In western standards I think only Chris Hemsworth would compare with the level of projected perfection 🤷
love this korean dude, it was everything i wanted to say to people who always look at me weird when i showed them my kpop idols
'if you're not over 6ft are you even a man' legit 😭😭💀
Me, a white femboy looking man: *starting to think maybe id be considered attractive to Korean girls*
"Well in Korea, we prefer men who are over 6ft"
Me whose 5"4 or something like that:
👁️👄👁️
I'm 5'4 too,
Why limit yourself with girls then /j
@@qing52 you have a point
@@ntrg3248 "If there's a hole, there's a goal"
- Master Oogwgay
@@qing521000iq
This is so true!!!! I used to HATE the way I looked until I moved to Germany and then Korea with my family over the last 5 years. and now I realize it was just the American stereotypes that made me hate myself and think I could never find a partner.
@@tanja1102 your kind of mentality is also kind of messed up. Thinking oh i don't look good according to American standard But i surely would just be one of the most pretty girl when i go to Korea. Just accept yourself as you are. And stop trying to think i would just look GORGEOUS according to people in korea.
@@tanja1102 oh my bad. Your comment just seemed like that thats why i said it. But my intention was not to hurt you. I just wanted to convey the msg that you should love ur self no matter what instead of trying to value yourself by the beauty standards of different cultures and countries.
Couse you're white??
@@malinet3203 loving yourself is pointless if everyone treats you poorly. I had many hair colours and styles over the years, and even though my face and fashion style hasn't changed at all, I could definitely see the difference in how people treated me. So the environment and what they perceive to be attractive has a big impact on your quality of life, that's just a fact and has nothing to do with whether or not you value yourself.
We should appreciate natural body compare to any beauty or makeup standards.
The ending though 😩😩😩😆😆😆
I think real life could be...
*shows a Cha Eunweoo picture
Korea: Omg he's so handsome
America: Omg he's so handsome
Actually I wish that American men would take care of themselves by taking care of their skin (not about makeup, unless they want to do that, but at least daily cleaning and using a moisturizing sun screen if not averse to that), eating healthy, exercising (even light exercise three times a week makes a difference); etc.. The average American guy often does things to excess without thinking of the repercussions (i.e., overeating, alcoholism, etc..), showing off how cool he is in his excessiveness and "indifferent" attitude, whether feigned or real, then his health and looks decline way too young because he just thinks it is all going to "happen" as it should though he has abused his own body and ignored his own need for self care. Ageing is natural, but people can do what it takes to improve their own lives, or not. I see so many men that just look awful as they get older, and often they act like they are unhappy. There are real consequences to ignoring your health/happiness. It's no one else's job to make YOU happy or healthy - just yours. If you are depressed or sick, get help, get started. I'm no damn expert. It's just that I would love to see more men in my surroundings feeling good in their later years, living longer, quality lives.
I don't have a specific type, if someone is pretty/handsome then it is what it is. IMO Brooke Shields and Eunwoo are two the most beautiful people I've ever seen.
When beauty standards matter than being human 🤣🙂🙂
" that's why you're out in the sun all day & get skin cancer & look 80 when you're 40 " 😭😭😭😭
I agree that beauty standards can be pretty toxic, but honestly, giving a shit and taking care of yourself is really attractive. Not just physically, but in terms of lifestyle/personality, actually caring and putting in effort in a way that is physically and mentally healthy is extremely attractive.
Trump and Cha Eunwoo 🤣🤣
Dude the fact that he used a Cha Eunwoo photo made me kinda sad cuz he really IS perfect
No one perfect, plus the guy looks like an average Korean dude.
Are you literally calling everybody else imperfect?😅
being healthy honestly makes one beautiful and attractive. Take care of your physical and mental health aswell as hygiene. Pay attention when is it that you feel like your best self and you’ll glow. Let’s kill the standards
I remember a time when my mom saw Seventeen on TV, I was getting all excited and the first thing she bothered to say was "Are they wearing lipstick?!" and I was like yeah and? Then she told me that they look soft and overly pretty, and that a man without some facial hair looks like a woman (I despise facial hair and hairy body overall and she knows it so it was a personal attack at that point), so yeah we kinda ended up arguing over it then she never tried saying any shit about any person I consider attractive again lmao
Haha 😂 okay, but you got good taste then 👌 Cause mannn SEVENTEEN they try to kill us with their looks sometimes 😂
@@Beatopiazz Ikr! Thank you 😂
@@Beatopiazzonly sometimes?? xD
Tbh I was just like you but when I grew older it slowly shifted into more muscular, tan and bearded men. I assume younger teenage girls like softer looking men because it's less intimidating and they feel familiar. And when they grow older and finally have a strong sense of identity, they are much more open to the classical imagine of masculine men.
I still love Korean men's look, but not the ultra-soft and fluffy kind.
@@BashaerB-h2c In my teenage years, I love pretty kpop boys. I'm 26 now and I move from actual pretty boys to less pretty boys. I prefer more unique look like Bobby from iKON which is still pretty but not in classic kpop pretty boys type of pretty. Or actors like Lee Dong Wook which is still pretty but has masculine look too.
I absolutely love DPR IAN these days. His face without makeup is pretty but with his dark, smokey make up, he's just my type💕
I could say I prefer edgier looking guys nowadays. Like vampire looking guys look.
I don't think I would be liking typical buff af hairy guys though.
I can't believe I sat and watched someone diss Eun Cha Woo and didn't fight them I'm so proud of myself
The American in the beginning is literally my parents whenever i show them an anime character, an asian music artist, basically anyone asian.
i rlly hate it when guys say they hate wearing chapstick because they think it's gay - like bro no one wants to kiss sandpaper💀
Skin care and hair I agree with, don't know how to feel about people putting make up on because of certain affects.
Make-up was first made for males in ancient times. In nature males have more vivid colours and display. Why should women have an unfair advantage in the dating game? I wear make-up, pluck my eye-brows, and have a strict skin-care routine. It works and I just got a notification from Tinder telling me to stop playing hard-to-get 😅 (I get hundreds of matches daily). Men in the West are influenced to smell bad, have bad broken skin, and sheer mass to be "handsome". Hilarious 😂
i mean everybody, no matter the gender does it in some form around the world
Well obviously they’d want make up to enhance their features. I don’t see anything wrong with men wearing make up, it’s sad how people assume they’re gay just bc of make up
LOL i just came here after watching a true beaty episode and BOOM Eunwoo poped up.😃😆😋
It's midnight and i'm laughing way too hard
Most of the men in kdramas are prettier than me for sure, it's a fact but yet l love to watch, not for the looks of people, but for the story. And for me Mr. Kim Byung-chul from my favorite kdrama pegasus market is so handsome and attractive, he is my type, of course in dreams as a fan, l think he's 100% korean legend.
🤣🙌 I just love you. This comparison had me dying. Everyone is attracted to different things. I for one think that guy looked gorgeous 😉😎
1:02 those words definitely had me cracking up! 😂
Both beauty standards can be too much. Hope people do things just for self care and to feel happy and confident irrespective of beauty standards
Watching this as a german girl is kind of interesting 😅🙈 because we see both of these countries as having unhealthy and extreme beauty standards.
But no matter what your attitude towards make up, plastic surgery, fake tans etc. is - at the very least Korea is right about sunscreen 😅🙌
how he mentioned the points in a comedic way but that's exactly how these standards are toxic, one of my korean friends said she would never date or marry an american because they look so not put together and my other roommate said she would never date a korean coz they are so pale what if they shine in the sun like a vampire, they both argued about what considered as beauty standards in the respective countries are despised from an opppsite perspective, which in a sense none of them were wrong actually, they were kinda right as these beauty standards are toxic and judge people based on their appearance rather than their personality or behavior. I was just sipping my lemonade and watching them fight 😂
As an American, I can agree that the guy at the beginning is hot 😌
Its interessting how different it is . As someone from the US, I've seen people tease others for being pale comparing them to ghosts. I had a friend say she badly wants to tan and that she's so pale she'd blend in at a white sand beach.
I wasn't expecting that ending 😂
Beauty Standards for a whole people are bs, everyone can select what ever he/she likes.
It all came down to height 😂😂
as an south east asian, we have the same standards as the koreans, pale skin is a status of wealth and beauty. its harder to stay pale hear near the quarter, so we go through extensive measures to keep our skin as light as possible.
I found it sort of interesting about the white skin beauty standard, I always thought it was because of something related to colonists and europeans, because that's what it's like where I live, and I just thought that influence spread throughout Asia regardless of whether a country was colonised or not. I had no idea it stemmed from wealth and status.
It also happened both in Ancient Egypt and in Western European countries during the C19th-20th. You can see it in Egyptian art where people of lower social class are depicted as very tanned (outdoor life), higher classes as fair-skinned (indoor life) - and then in W Europe, pre-Industrial Revolution, the "I don't have to work" ideal was fair skin, but, as a LOT of lower-paid jobs quickly moved from outdoors to indoors, a signal of a higher social status became the ability to go outdoors and get a tan...
The European standard of tanned beauty was created by the National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI) during the 1930s, when they pushed for an extensive system of outdoor physical education and a return to the "Ancient Aryan naturalistic customs" of their "ancestors".
The tan is Nazi, and bad for the skin, but it looks so nice
It's because the "poor" were in the sun working, and the "wealthy" were inside doing wtv the fuck
@@cressidasoprano Oh interesting! I knew about Egypt, but not about europeans and the changed that occured.
Pale skin was the standard even before the English came. The royals were pale whereas the people who did labor were tanned
To be honest
In korea,
Tan used to get called as a sign of like poorness
And pale used to recognize as rich. That's why old korean traditions and queens used to wear fairly white power over their face ( you might have seen drawing or a drama which contains queens with too much white powder )
But i think it's now a bit changing ( not all of it )
But america has inverse rules. . .
Like ???
At least Korean standard for skin is healthy, since people end up wearing sunscreen 👍🏻
@@auricia201 @Auricia well its all rooted with LOOKING RICH and PALE you know?! :) tbh its really toxic but you must have to adopt it once you get into korean culture. I am not against it but in my opinion it may give a hard day for people with tanned skin
@@miyounge I'm European, and the bad comments about skin color I hear is about people being "white as squids".
And the idea that "a healthy tan look" is because you are able to afford vacations abroad is real, so it's also rooted in "Looking Rich".
No one has to adopt any beauty standard, no matter where we live.
But we Should take care of our skin, and sunscreen is part of it
@@auricia201 First of all person's bleach their skin to attain this beauty standard this could be harmful. Second of all wearing sun screen isn't going to make you not get a tan. Sunscreen only protects you from harmful UV Rays it doesn't 100% shield you from the sun. This leads to some persons avoiding the sun completely which can also be harmful. Conclusion beauty standards are harmful to everyone no matter the country. Especially if you weren't naturally born with the features needed to fit these standards.
@@miyounge I agree and some people like to bring “westerners achieving tan skin is the same” no it’s not. In Asia, there’s society pressure to look fair, discrimination, being made fun of…it’s way worse
These days people are not confident about their own body 😨, the best thing any human can have is confidence , nature already made everyone beautiful/handsome, people just need to be fit because after being fit your real beauty/handsomeness will come to your body.
I actually thought the Korean model on his phone was handsome lol.
He's a singer
Edit : and actor actually
No
"To us your 'Thick' is just fat"
My skinny ass: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, hope🌟🔥💗💯💕💖🦋☄️🧠😍
You’re hilarious!
A lot of the men in South Korea are toxic and fetishize American girls. 😢 I’ve had lots of experiences like this and can never find a Korean guy who doesn’t assume stereotypes about me or assume I’m a porn star.
Give examples
Birds of a feather flock together
same with american girls who fetizize korean guys
These are the exact same males who prefer a woman with a baby's face and a voluptuous body.
Yeah I heard a lot of foreign women being harassed and expected to put out easily by horny korean dudes. Especially in clubs foreign women get approached for one night stands.
You’re hilarious, thanks for the laugh
The end I can't get enough of lol 😂
Cha Eunwoo is the most handsome man in the world
*My type is the greatest emperor, only real sigma male -Genghis Khan*
The guy who had a meat only diet, and was diagnosed with bubonic plague and many other diseases that were not known at the time. He's basically today's Nikocado Avocado (just the evil emperor kinda version)
all I can say is I love natural beauties, wther western beauty or asian beauty as long as it's natural and not plastic☝
After the initial culture shock now I am totally liking Korean aesthetic
He is so funny when he immitate and talk like a girl, "yeaas" "yaaa" "giViNg a vIbE"😂😅
I don't know how to say this without it being weird, but I think Korean people are some of the most attractive people in general. I'm gay, but something about Korean dudes is so attractive to me.
When they look androgynous
Maybe cause most of them have pretty faces. Clear light skin, shaved, a lil bit of make up and stylish hair. I agree with you. Here in the US, most people go for dudes that are masculine, beards and are tan. I don’t want people to think that I’m “fetishizing” Korean men but I would say that they have good beauty standards
Weirdly I've actually never met a "feminine" Korean dude. I only see them on TV so I didn't know they existed in real life. I dated a Korean dude when I was young (yea he was over 6ft, but that was only a bonus). He was a typical American soldier so I can't even say he cared about his looks or even a nice guy. Best friend growing up is also Korean. Coincidentally, he's also gay lol. Not androgynous or anything and also not 6ft, but he did latch on to the GQ thing when it first started picking up in the 90s/00s.
Anyway, yea I know it's weird to say since black women are also often fetishized so I never know how to say it without it sounding bad or offensive or whatever
You clearly Asian men, go marry one.
@@1karinaKoreans are the least attractive when they stop bleaching and eyelid surgery
So true 😂 Australian, good looking, well groomed and slender, and I absolutely wear make-up. I hate to say that men in the West are influenced to look ugly and smell bad 🤢🤮 Sheer mass does not negate fat and ugly. I'm proud I'm no hairy-backed gorilla. Why should women have an unfair advantage? After all, make-up was first made for men, and in nature males tend to have more vivid colouring and display. It works, and people blush and/or act spiteful and the envy shows. Some women will proclaim they won't date a guy who looks in the mirror more than them 🤣 To that I would say is "honey, you won't make the cut anyway 😏" 😅
Umm, masculine looking men don't look ugly and smell bad. They are real looking men that's all. Slender and make up doesn't exactly scream manly. But to each his own but seriously get over yourself.
Those women are definitely made for the ugly looking, no fashion sense dudes. They make a perfect pair
@@darlenegattus8190 last part of the comment is something i agree on..
Meaning you would not be much help around the house, right? Would makeup help you chop a pile of wood faster? Or would your good looks impress the angle grinder, you think? How about parading your ego while you're mucking out stables? And better leave those hammers and clicker knives alone- you would be useless in my leather workshop.
A woman (not a girl but an adult woman) wants somebody who can make things happen. Somebody who is not afraid to get dirty or get his hands rough. What good is there in keeping a well-manicured peacock around?
@@jvnd2785 Leather workshop hey? FYI I happen to be a formrr champion shooter, and I can most certainly cure leather. I built my own foundry, and my main source of income is supplying research labs with agrochemicals in the public and private sectors. I am a business owner and I have travelled the globe. I do not believe in limiting my scope as you do. Excusing your neglect of self-care with being a manual labourer is a cop-out.
“DoNaLd tRuMp” killed me 😂
"anorexic vampire" lol 🤣 I guess that's my type 🤷♀😆
mine too ahahahaa
Mine three
Bro what is wrong with you 😂😂😂😂 I’m always in stitches whenever I watch your videos
"that's why you 40 you look eighty" had me cracking up
OMG it was worth waiting for the punch line! Loved it! 😂😂
I love how he roast both the Americans and Korean people
Nah bruh this is way too funny!😭
(I’m talking ab the whole channel)
Why is his comedy always on point ? Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
even my asian mom was constantly saying that male kpop idols look like girls and just criticise their masculinity in general💀
I think it's only a look that middle school girls and early high school girls like. Which is typically the demographic since teenage girls are the biggest fans.
Why nobody talking about his beauty?
Am i the only one who noticed that he becoming more handsome day by day?🔥
The way the American guy talk is just 🤣🤣
I luv the way he can change his voice from deep to high ❤
LOL. Cha Eunwoo is extremely handsome for me though.
Cha eunwoo 😍😍😍
As an American girl who is pale and skinny I was always told to eat more and that I need to go outside more and get a tan. Also I showed some of my friends some men I find really attractive and they told me I must be bisexual because Korean men look like women- This video is very accurate
Classismm!!
Like, that's what most beauty standards come down to. Yet I rarely see people talking about class or classism and how it's actually the largest divider in every nation and among every group.
Josh is gorgeous 👍
0:35 - I love how you stood up for these
She's actually pretty "respectful" as she said there's nothing wrong with that but only that she wouldn't date a guy like that sooooo XD
Love your videos. That bit at the end about tall guys. 'Are you even a man?' OMG 😯😆😂
Is it just me who learned a lot about what Koreans think looks good?
Kai and Jimin are perfection to me! Although I love Tom Hardy ❤❤❤
This is GENIUS! Thank you, Josh to put it out there for many who NEEDS to listen and understand their own xenophobia! 💜
How does this relate to anything
But this also creates a false dichotomy of one beauty standard being better than the other, when both are very much detrimental.
Colorism is a huge issue in Asia as well, but he paints simply explaining the roots of these standards as somehow making it alright, which is really just an appeal to history and status quo more than anything lmao
@@MariaSantos-uo3pb i dont think he painted them as "alright." It was more so a historical fact as to why Koreans favour pale skin. Beauty standards often stem from historical circumstances. Having a reason doesn't make them okay, everyone understands that.
@@mcbedo6568 oh come on lmao- one of these characters is clearly painted as more irrational than the other, right down to their very tone. The historical fact wasn’t talked about in a vacuum, it was in tandem with how it was presented as a sort of rebuttal to the American pov
@@MariaSantos-uo3pb reason being the hypocrisy of the American in question for judging the Korean beauty standard when they have their own set of equally toxic beauty standards
The thumbnail tho 💓
Well, you got one part of it right. American women don't like men who are prettier than we are. We've gotten used to seeing Idols with makeup on stage. Seeing selfies they've posted, bareface, is a treat. But so many have had plastic surgery, they're still prettier than we are! And seriously, in america, women just want a guy who's taller than us. But the point is moot since American women are certainly not the Korean ideal. Kpop Idols all want their women to have brown eyes, to be petite, and innocent!🤣🤣
I'm a white American teaching in South Korea. My students were so shocked when I told them that it's the beauty standard for lighter-skinned people in the US to want to have tan skin. I told them that when I was little, my sister and I would put coconut oil on our skin and sit outside to try and get tan. We would only turn red and have major sunburns before peeling like an onion and coming out just as white as before. 😭 I remember us being so upset. 🤣