Neuro Fatigue After Stroke & Spoon Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Neuro fatigue after a stroke is frustrating to deal with and it’s a complex issue to treat. In this video, I walk you through common symptoms of neuro fatigue and how to explain it to others using Spoon Theory.
    Original Spoon Theory blog post by Christine Miserandino: butyoudontlooksick.com/articl...
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    Time Stamps
    0:00 Intro
    0:09 Neurofatigue symptoms
    0:44 Good news & frustrations
    1:20 History of spoon theory
    1:55 Explaining spoon theory
    5:24 Outro
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Комментарии • 69

  • @caritabirch9831
    @caritabirch9831 5 месяцев назад +4

    spoon theory has changed my life! Especially the understanding that you can borrow spoons from the next day and really pay for it because you have less spoons to work with.

  • @brynyrdskynyrd3751
    @brynyrdskynyrd3751 2 года назад +16

    Thank you for this. I had a stroke 6 months ago and at 29 years old it’s completely altered my life. I’ve recovered well and am able to walk and talk so I don’t “look” sick. I’ve felt so isolated and it’s like my friends and family can’t grasp what I’m going through. I cry every day from being so tired and lonely. This was very validating.

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  2 года назад +5

      @brynrydskynrd, You are so welcome. It's so hard for people to understand why you aren't "better" when you have invisible issues. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this, but I'm glad you feel validated! What you're dealing with is very real. ❤️

    • @normanmacfarlane6724
      @normanmacfarlane6724 Год назад +3

      I read your comment
      I too get the " your looking well " when someone asks how I am , but they have no idea about what is really going on.
      I hope things improve for you
      I had two strokes

    • @DogsaladSalad
      @DogsaladSalad 9 месяцев назад +1

      Happened to me too at 28! Its an unusual way to live but youre not alone!

    • @deejae8295
      @deejae8295 5 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much. I just I had my stroke January 14. I’ve been home from rehab since February 8. It’s been three weeks since I have not had any therapy. And my son doesn’t understand why I don’t have any energy. This explanation goes a long way.

    • @JakeSanchez23
      @JakeSanchez23 Месяц назад

      Happened at the same age for me as well! 4 months ago

  • @jessicasavage7260
    @jessicasavage7260 Год назад +12

    Thank you this makes so much sense.. I had my stroke 3yrs ago right around when the COVID first came out and everything was shut down I didn't get to do my therapy when I was supposed to 😪 needless to say I have not recovered... My family and friends don't understand why I'm always tired I feel so alone

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  Год назад +2

      I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. The good news is that the brain is wired to continue to make changes. I know it's hard to engage in exercise or therapy when dealing with neurofatigue, but maybe starting out with 2 minutes a day could help you continue to work towards your goals ❤️

    • @theemilyelizabeth
      @theemilyelizabeth Год назад +2

      You are not alone❤

  • @normanmacfarlane6724
    @normanmacfarlane6724 Год назад +10

    Due to this I dance with suicidal thoughts because I get so frighteningly tired.
    I get moments when I can see a future ahead but then I get so so very tired.
    I no longer ever talk to my doctor about this issue. I go see him , get my bloods done and take the medication he prescribes.
    I think , I hope it may get better .
    Hope you are all well.

  • @lsnider59
    @lsnider59 Год назад +6

    thank you this was helpful for me to understand why I am so tired! My stroke was last week and I have been so wiped out, hey I cleaned house Sat and it must have used 20 spoons! Thank you again

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  Год назад +2

      Of course! Oh my word, I can imagine it took at least 20 spoons!

  • @hemasookram4655
    @hemasookram4655 2 года назад +9

    Thanks for all of this. I had my stroke in February of this year it’s super difficult to wake up to this body everyday

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  2 года назад +2

      @HemaSookram You're very welcome. I'm sorry that you're dealing with all of this. Have you tried reaching out to any support groups (online or in person)? It can sometimes help just to know you're not alone

  • @donna589
    @donna589 10 месяцев назад +9

    What is lacking in the spoon demonstration is to show a parallel person who has not had a stroke and starts the day with 50 spoons. And as that non-stroke person goes through the day while the stroke person uses let's say 2 spoons just to shower the nonstroke person gets their whole morning hygiene routine done using 1 spoon. Even more telling would be that the nonstroke person actually ***gains*** a few spoons because the shower experience for them is energizing and costs so little to perform...not even close to 1 spoon. And then show side by side visually how each person goes through the day. A person without the stroke starts the day with not only significantly more energy spoons but also does not spend as much per activity as the stroke person.

  • @Coolmike19
    @Coolmike19 Год назад +5

    That was so helpful, now I understand why I'm so tired and now I know what to do . Thank for the tip

  • @trevorstewart8
    @trevorstewart8 8 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for validating that stroke recovery can have its ups and downs. Early in my recovery I was going "gang busters" with a "I got this" attitude and then I hit a wall of energy loss and apathy. It has taken a while to progress through that. I cook most of our meals as my wife still works a full day from home (she's 71) and I have noticed that standing to prepare the meal can be extremely tiring, requiring me to nap again for 30 mins (after the meal). This led me to a conclusion about energy conservation with the idea to think ahead and shape what I am doing to minimise this incessant drain of my precious energy. Sometimes I nap before a task that I know will be taxing, sometimes I will just sit and read a book (no screens) for an hour or so. But also note that a heavy meal of say steak or a lasagne can be equally draining, even though both of those can rebuild your reserve stamina/strength over the following hours. I have found that dietary iron intake can be very beneficial. I use red meats, oily fish, and dark green veg to build me up, but always a balanced diet of 100gms (3.5oz) veg, 100gms protein (meats, chicken, fish, eggs), and 100gms starch (potatoes, rice, couscous or pasta) per person which is enough for a sedentary office job. Plus, I try to exercise 2-3 times a week with a 10-15 minute walk, or a gardening equivalent (usually 1 hour). Sometimes I am too tired or "bushed" to do any of this so do not stress over it as that just wastes more energy. LOL

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  6 месяцев назад

      It sounds like you’ve figured out a nice balance!! ❤️

  • @trevorstewart8
    @trevorstewart8 8 месяцев назад +2

    My chiropractor experienced a severe concussion while kite surfing (he's 70) which led him to consult a neurosurgeon friend about a recovery program for him. They likened the concussion to a stroke in its effects on the brain and from that he advised me about frequent "Naps" of not less than 30 minutes duration. I now take a nap about 2-3 times a day whenever I feel fatigued which rebuilds my "spoon bank". I prefer to use the example of a tank of "gas" or petrol in the car. I.E. you only have so much and when its low or gone its nap time. Some days that might be 3 times and sometimes I can train my brain to survive on one, albeit a 1 hour one about 4 or 5pm. The others I set my phone alarm to 11am and 2pm although it is an indicator not an absolute.

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  8 месяцев назад

      @trevorstewart8 I really like your analogy! Thanks so much for sharing! I know it'll be helpful for others. 😊

  • @tenshiakui4454
    @tenshiakui4454 Год назад +1

    Had my stroke a little over a year ago, wish i had found your channel then, but it is nice to still have these now to help with recognition and understanding of what my new normal is.

  • @lesleyrichards1088
    @lesleyrichards1088 5 месяцев назад

    This is excellent. It makes such good sense. Thank you so much.

  • @theemilyelizabeth
    @theemilyelizabeth Год назад +1

    So glad I found your channel. Thank you! ❤️

  • @brianmarshall3931
    @brianmarshall3931 Год назад +4

    Excellent explanation. I am 4-5 months into this "experience"... You can be as ambitious as you wish in your planning - but there is NO WAY you can accomplish even one tenth of it. The body just won't comply...

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  Год назад +1

      Thanks for your kind words and sharing you’re experience❤️

  • @curtpozzi5527
    @curtpozzi5527 Месяц назад

    I had my stroke in early March of this year. It hit the Pons region and affected my balance. I could use either side of my abilities, no effect on left or right. I can play my guitars no problem. I see your Vox amp( I have a Vox VT40). That's got to help my neuroplasisity! I walk a lot and made great progress along with my physical therapy. My wife helped me the most!! I'm going back to work next week, I've been off for 3 months and I'm on a few meds with some reductions on them. We can recover quite a bit from strokes if you fight it! Thank you for your insights.

  • @briannajohnson8887
    @briannajohnson8887 Год назад +2

    Thank you so much for this, my dad just had a stroke last week and physically he has recovered so well in that little time, however mentally he’s just not there yet.

  • @cesb79
    @cesb79 Год назад +2

    nice vox amp...thanks now i know how to deal my neuro fatigue

  • @Jordanredux
    @Jordanredux 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for explaining this I've tried to explain this to my parents and they just can't seem to understand, I'm running out of spoons and have to be very choosy about where I spend them, thanks again for your help

  • @cassiesteele6554
    @cassiesteele6554 5 месяцев назад

    I have a neurological disorder and I describe shower time as an event. With the spoon theories, that only gives me 3 events per day. It fits perfectly. Thank you for sharing. ❤

  • @acpucio
    @acpucio Год назад

    Thanks!

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  Год назад

      Thank you so much!! We sincerely appreciate you❤️ every bit helps us as we’re still a small and growing nonprofit☺️

  • @Hartleymolly
    @Hartleymolly 2 дня назад

    Getting dressed is all the spoons 😂

  • @nikkicicero7730
    @nikkicicero7730 2 года назад +2

    Actually I would describe the fatigue that I’m having from my stroke that I had December 8, 2021
    It’s more like a big giant magnet is pulling me down and it’s affecting my body and my mind

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  2 года назад +1

      @nikkicicero, Thank you for sharing your experience! Everyone seems to experience neuro fatigue a little differently and it's good to hear those different perspectives ❤️

  • @GilbertDisloquez
    @GilbertDisloquez 3 года назад +1

    I wish I new this in the beginning of my Hemorrhagic stroke.

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  3 года назад +1

      @titansofthesea I'm sorry you're just now getting the info, but that's why I started making these videos. So many survivors I heard from on social media (and my clients) said that they just didn't get the information they needed after their stroke. I hope it's still helpful now and that you're doing well!

    • @GilbertDisloquez
      @GilbertDisloquez 3 года назад +1

      @@PostStrokeOrg My stroke was in June 2021. I am moving along well. My right side was numb but i had full function of muscles and what not. But about two weeks ago the numbness has shifted to an icy hot burning tingling sensation. Very unpleasant. Will you make a video about that because I have been having a hard time finding information about this.

  • @vondinkinsvon8919
    @vondinkinsvon8919 3 месяца назад

    Tell me I’m going on two years must nap every five to six hours walk a half mile and I’m down for a nap does it do any good to push no naps and go all day till you fall over us these bp meds

  • @Dvpainter
    @Dvpainter Месяц назад

    Is red light therapy something you've engaged with or ran into people who have used it? I'm curious how it affects this problem

  • @annusharma943
    @annusharma943 2 года назад

    Mere left side mein paralyze hai mere ko kis side karke rakh karvat Lene

  • @mlpublishing1786
    @mlpublishing1786 2 месяца назад

  • @arnoldrecampa7590
    @arnoldrecampa7590 2 года назад

    Can i ask a question can a post stroke patient can do running

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  2 года назад

      @ronaldcampaner, Absolutely! I know several stroke survivors who have returned to running. Of course, it all depends on your movement, endurance, and getting clearance from your doctor, but it is possible. 😊

  • @danigracevon952
    @danigracevon952 Год назад

    How would you help someone that didn’t think she had a stroke ? She is exhausted daily and speak slower , some confused words.

  • @sajanninan4520
    @sajanninan4520 9 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @2ubester2
    @2ubester2 Месяц назад

    If I've rested well I might have 10 spoons. That doesn't really happen.

  • @chetanjaiswal9614
    @chetanjaiswal9614 2 года назад

    Hi mam I am physiotherapy students India,

  • @TonyWatchesClosely
    @TonyWatchesClosely 2 месяца назад

    Is there a connection between 5G and strokes?

  • @dianakane5492
    @dianakane5492 3 года назад

    this is my life in a nutshell

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  3 года назад +1

      @dianakane Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope this helps give you a way to talk about your experience!

  • @purpose8141
    @purpose8141 5 месяцев назад

    Then there's also emotional fatigue caused by being around certain people

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  5 месяцев назад

      @purpose8141 Yes! This is great point! Thank you

  • @jamesalles139
    @jamesalles139 3 года назад +4

    I have found that I have fewer spoons to start with, now that I am older (60s)
    umm what do i do with my fork?
    seriously, thank you!

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  3 года назад +1

      Haha oh my word, thanks for the chuckle :) Hope you're well!

    • @jamesalles139
      @jamesalles139 3 года назад +1

      @@PostStrokeOrg 👍 "Better than I deserve" 😊

    • @hemasookram4655
      @hemasookram4655 2 года назад +1

      I’m 42 and I hardly have spoons left

  • @glaubhafieber
    @glaubhafieber 3 года назад

    How many spoons for learning a new language? I’m not lazy, teacher 😱

    • @PostStrokeOrg
      @PostStrokeOrg  3 года назад +1

      @alainpfaeffli I'm sure it takes a lot of spoons to learn a new language! I'm sure you're not lazy. Part of the reason I made this video was to help people understand that neuro fatigue isn't your fault! The brain is trying to heal :)

  • @mr.smith2636
    @mr.smith2636 8 месяцев назад

    Oh boy
    Women want to talk about feelings.
    Men find solutions to the problem.