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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  10 месяцев назад +94

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    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 10 месяцев назад

      The Night Lords and Alpha Legion are fully corrupted, bugger!
      Look at all the corrupted warband leaders in both Legions!!!

    • @jacobfoster9185
      @jacobfoster9185 10 месяцев назад +4

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    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 10 месяцев назад

      What, no code!?! Come on Tacticus, even 10 Blackstone or 100 gold. 🙃

    • @Night_Haunter
      @Night_Haunter 10 месяцев назад +1

      Hey majorkill can you do a video on the people who lead the legions before their primarchs where found

    • @marcindziedzic9701
      @marcindziedzic9701 10 месяцев назад +5

      If Night Lords willa be added to the game a new campaign with Night Lords vs Dark Angels could be awesome

  • @PlayerOne.StartGame
    @PlayerOne.StartGame 10 месяцев назад +1090

    Night Lords, as a rule, look down on Chaos worship or dependency, but they're sufficiently libertarian that they tolerate it within their ranks as long as its not forced onto others.

    • @Xynth25
      @Xynth25 10 месяцев назад +67

      The full spectrum of Chaos worship is on display in the legion in 40k. Two of the bigger named characters we know of are full-on daemon princes leading large warbands. The entire point of the omnibus is to show how far Chaos corruption can spread in even just 50 years (how long First Claw subjectively experiences between Terra and the books). The Night Lords in the current setting are degenerate Chaos Marines to the same extent as any other legion or warband.

    • @paddya3304
      @paddya3304 10 месяцев назад

      Pragmatic rather than libertarian. They’re degenerate monsters but even the night lords have standards

    • @djlongneck21
      @djlongneck21 10 месяцев назад +45

      ​@@Xynth25people seem very keen to give Night Lords credit where it isn't due for being anti chaos. It was really only a few notable characters who were vehemently against it

    • @TableGrables
      @TableGrables 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Xynth25100 years also no they're not

    • @Xynth25
      @Xynth25 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@TableGrables Yes, they very, *very much* are.

  • @ender8124
    @ender8124 10 месяцев назад +468

    Being psychotic before the heresy might help.. I bet it'd be hard to play on the repressed dark impulses of someone that never actually repressed them.

    • @swarthygiant1463
      @swarthygiant1463 10 месяцев назад +11

      Slaanesh birth suggests otherwise

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 10 месяцев назад +34

      @@swarthygiant1463The Eldars are psychically more impactfull than humans, and more numerous than a single chaos space marin legion.

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@florians9949psychotic is not psychic ya drongo

  • @anothershyguy
    @anothershyguy 10 месяцев назад +276

    One of my favorite headcanons is that night lords call their daemon princes "daemon princesses" because you have to be one hell of a kiss ass to be one.

  • @DahLekKnight
    @DahLekKnight 10 месяцев назад +184

    Daemon: "Why hate us?"
    Night Lord: "I'm gonna knock you out. My Daddy said knock you out. So, I'm gonna knock you out."

  • @heeman1203
    @heeman1203 10 месяцев назад +687

    There's also the fact that neither them or the AL went to the Eye Of Terror, after the heresy. Not living in chaos Chernobyl is a great way to avoid chaos corruption.

    • @DewayneMcClure-bm2pj
      @DewayneMcClure-bm2pj 10 месяцев назад +64

      The Night Lords did flee to the Eye of Terror, and while there are Alpha Legion warbands within the Eye, you are right that most never sought refuge there.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 10 месяцев назад +7

      why i do see in the future that miost night lords will join to the inquisition than rather become full Chaos marines if given achoise

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@no-nonseplayer6612they were the inquisition before it was a thing

    • @mogwaiman6048
      @mogwaiman6048 9 месяцев назад

      The are chaos corrupted.

    • @issh1n
      @issh1n Месяц назад

      @@mogwaiman6048 not for the most part

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 10 месяцев назад +169

    I quite like how there are "good" Chaos legions, and "bad" Loyal ones.
    Makes it all seem a bit greyer.

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 10 месяцев назад +5

      Good chaos legion? HERESY!

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 10 месяцев назад +35

      ​@@florians9949
      The Blood Gorgons for example are a traitor warband that's better and nicer than 80% of Imperium's chapters. Seriously a Chad Chaos warband, that's not really even that evil.

    • @kieranadamson3224
      @kieranadamson3224 10 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah, the Night Lords and Chaos Knight are great examples of this to me. The Night Lords as mentioned actively choose to remain as a traitor legion rather than pledge to Chaos. Despite having been composed of the worst of the worst but they still had no interest in the machinations of Chaos. They just wanted revenge for what they believed to be a greater betrayal than they could ever commit. The Chaos Knights are a bit more fuzzy on this because the Infernal houses are a thing, they're just straight evil. But there's also the iconoclast houses who often fell because they decided the oaths they swore to the particular legion that found them couldn't be broken in good conscience. Kind of reminds me of corrupted Ogryns to a degree. They faithfully follow those they pledged themselves to into damnation.

    • @WIBRTyranT
      @WIBRTyranT 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@SlaaneshM30 the soul drinkers were a loyalist chapter as well, that got tainted by chaos but still upheld the overall protection of the imperium as their first and foremost duty, even while being targeted by the imperium itself.

    • @maxgehtdnixan4913
      @maxgehtdnixan4913 10 месяцев назад

      @@kieranadamson3224 The night lords spend their entire existence torturing and tormenting people for fun.It's literally all they do. They are WORSE than some chaos legions by a considerable margin. If you want an example of a "good" chaos legion, you could pick the world eaters and they'd still be better than the Night Lords.

  • @thatonekriegguardsmen6140
    @thatonekriegguardsmen6140 10 месяцев назад +382

    A video on the relationships between the first founding chapters and there most prominent successors would be cool

    • @lordoblivion8038
      @lordoblivion8038 10 месяцев назад +16

      alright let's make a crusade for this one

    • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
      @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 10 месяцев назад

      yes@@lordoblivion8038

    • @Nempo13
      @Nempo13 10 месяцев назад +15

      Well, Dorne was both Impressed and Saddened by the Black Templar. Impressed as they outright ignored the codex and maintained legion strength while fighting constantly to protect the Imperium. Saddened because they reminded him of how Sigmund was. Staunch, unflinching, and willing to charge into any battle no matter the odds long as it was for the Imperium.
      There is one thing that impressed him more than anything else however, The Black Templar drill the Last Wall protocol into their members as an absolute rule. When the Fists call for aid, when the protocol signal is sent out, all crusades stop and every last Templar will make a direct path to Holy Terra. EVERY Templar will answer the call ASAP. The sheer volume of ships appearing around Terra would be enough to make a wall around it. The Fists are designed to hold ground, the Templar are designed to take ground. You put them together and working fluidly and you have a terrifying enemy.

    • @MrTinman676
      @MrTinman676 10 месяцев назад

      Is 10 minutes enough time for that though?

    • @ashippoi5711
      @ashippoi5711 10 месяцев назад

      Well damn im upvoting this, please make it my guy

  • @matiashofmann6010
    @matiashofmann6010 10 месяцев назад +77

    Tossing Sevatar is unforgivable. both during the heresy and potentially in the current setting, that wacko could make the night lords have the attention they deserve, also since it wouldn't hurt Talos and the warbands storyline.
    There's too much compliance in the black army and his acquaintances.

    • @Xynth25
      @Xynth25 10 месяцев назад +7

      Unfortunately for the thought of Sevatar in 40k, Astartes still age and wear down. Dante's the oldest alive today at just over 1000 and before the Rubicon he was getting to be almost decrepit, far from his prime. Unless GW fridges him in the Warp (which would have its own issues) Sevatar would be truly ancient.

    • @slayer6498
      @slayer6498 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Xynth25 Yeah Looking At Bjorn Dude's On Multiple Life Support Systems And Can Barely Move Around, Although He's In A Dreadnought.

    • @Sweetness71775
      @Sweetness71775 10 месяцев назад +6

      Astartes in the Eye of Terror haven't aged nearly as much as their Loyalist brethren. Abby is the prime example.

    • @Xynth25
      @Xynth25 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@Sweetness71775 Yes, but last we saw Sevatar was in custody of the Dark Angels. Fanon has him becoming the leader of a loyalist chapter, but we've got no concrete clue. He's either been executed as a traitor, died in combat as a loyalist in like M32, or he's a Dreadnaught.

    • @matiashofmann6010
      @matiashofmann6010 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Xynth25 , it's a thing to take in consideration, but remember that the eye of terror is not inside the warp. It's just a place where the barrier between both planes is really thin. Most traitors lived there after the heresy and stayed there until the fall of Cadia.
      Why I mention this? Because for these guys, these past 10k years have NOT been that long for them. 2 examples I could think are in the black legion books and Ahriman's series as well. In both, there's dialogue about how was for them when they travel outside the eye. What for Sigismund was almost 1thousand years, for the black legion was something like a decade or two.
      Unfortunately, most traitors have been "blessed" with chaos, which definitely extends their lifespan. Iron warriors and thousand sons are the least chaos imbued, and in both cases there are alive astartes who were part of the heresy.
      Given all of this, it's feasible for me to imagine a Sevatar aged like the lion is right now.
      Dreadnought I could almost confirm it's not the case, since in the nightlords books the unaccountable fate of Sevatar is present, and stuff like dreadnoughts are a thing that cannot be unknown, even for the madmen the NL are

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 10 месяцев назад +196

    I wonder if Chaos was the reason why Konrad got those visions and drove him to be on the side of the Traitor Legions.

    • @ElodieStarjem
      @ElodieStarjem 10 месяцев назад +60

      Actually, it was a primarch power, much like Sanguinius, and Russ’s weird rune-foresight stuff.

    • @arionofotherworld
      @arionofotherworld 10 месяцев назад +22

      I wouldn't put it past the ruininous powers to have played that game with all of the more sensitive Primarchs to find weaknesses in their mental states.

    • @mcmarkmarkson7115
      @mcmarkmarkson7115 10 месяцев назад +8

      More like the Emprah just fudged the geneseed with a bunch of crap to see what happens :D

    • @genderconfusedwolffromshre8914
      @genderconfusedwolffromshre8914 10 месяцев назад +1

      thats actually interesting as hell and would make Konrad more tragic.

    • @adamstroh2708
      @adamstroh2708 10 месяцев назад

      If I remember right Conrad was thrown into a portal to the warp while fighting on McCraig and fought a demon back out of the warp and killed it.
      I think after his fight he saw the eternal truth, and his already tenuous grip on his sanity was broken.
      I seem to recall him saying something like “the real gods are laughing at us” or something like that.
      May have gotten the details wrong

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop 10 месяцев назад +45

    It helps that unlike the Thousand Sons, the Night Lords didn't have to contend with the flesh change and in the current setting, their psychopathic Primarch is dead whereas the Thousand Sons still have their psychopathic Primarch who also happens to be an egomaniacal demon space wizard. Furthermore, no Night Lord was turned into a dusty golem.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 10 месяцев назад +1

      exept Lonrad might be alive as Sevetar might have shot that assassin before he gould kill Konrad Curse fully

    • @UncleMikeDrop
      @UncleMikeDrop 10 месяцев назад +1

      @no-nonseplayer6612 Key term there MIGHT be and even then, it's a stretch. Magnus the Red on the other hand, is canonically active within the setting.

    • @twenty-fifth420
      @twenty-fifth420 10 месяцев назад +2

      I wouldn’t call Magnus Psychopathic, maybe just because people always say that for mental illness and writing and it is really, really narrow minded. It lacks nuance. He doesn’t really have too many psychopathic traits. I would probably say it for Angron pre-fall, maybe, but not for Magnus.
      Also, Magnus didn’t do the Rubrics, that was Ahriman. And tbh, the fact that exists in the setting is among the dumber things in 40k tbh.
      Edit: Same for Konrad btw, even though he technically fits more. But Konrad also has some other traits that fit into other illnesses. And Konrad gets a partial pass because he sees visions basically all the time. I cant say with good logic and conscience he is a psychopath when you constantly see the future, but it is basically worse then Perturabo who saw the eye of terror since birth.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@twenty-fifth420 i would say Magnus is troubled because hes still missing like 50% oh his shards so that also affects his wellbeing i think magnus at 80% would be more stable and interesting and probably trying to undo his Daemonication at some point

    • @HalfBreedMix
      @HalfBreedMix 8 месяцев назад +2

      ...........and..... although the Night Lords are all Mega Halloween, they don't depend on Warp magic as their main weapon.

  • @PlayerOne.StartGame
    @PlayerOne.StartGame 10 месяцев назад +40

    Lord Curze’s truth shall be made manifest. A galaxy united not by the lies of the imperium or chaos, but through the only force mankind understands: FEAR.

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 3 месяца назад

      Fear is a short term solution.
      Just look how well the fear based approach worked on Nostramo.

  • @lolbots686
    @lolbots686 10 месяцев назад +31

    I would like to point out that when dorn ate it,curze actually felt bad because at that time he actually wasnt as bad because he was recently healed by big e

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt 10 месяцев назад +25

    I am happy GW gave us some new mini bits for us to play with. I am also happy you covered them again

  • @jackbaxter2223
    @jackbaxter2223 10 месяцев назад +15

    The Night Lords trilogy also mentions that Talos was often unaware of just how corrupted the Night Lords had become. They are certainly far less corrupted than the other traitor legions, but they aren't immune to their father's wilfull self-delusion.

  • @Masso-gy9yu
    @Masso-gy9yu 10 месяцев назад +45

    Attempt number 7:
    What if the Primarchs where found in the order of their creation. So the Lion was first and Horus was nearly last. I think that could change quite a bit, don't you think?
    P:S yeah, I'm definitely doing this till it gets to a 100.
    JOIN ME MY BROTHERS!!

    • @matiashofmann6010
      @matiashofmann6010 10 месяцев назад +6

      Actually, it's heavily implied that the primarchs were given life simultaneously. There's no connection between the legion # and their biological age. As a matter of fact, some legions precede their respective primarchs. The Lion is indeed connected to his # in the lore, but I would say it was by design. As big E had a role for each of them, giving the Lion the 1st legion to be under his command probably was to fulfill his position.

    • @hl48
      @hl48 10 месяцев назад

      How could a legion, made with the geneseed of a primarch come before their primarch?

    • @Masso-gy9yu
      @Masso-gy9yu 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@hl48 Cause the Primarchs where only in the gestation pods when the Geneseed was taken from them.

    • @starhammer5247
      @starhammer5247 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@matiashofmann6010It is stated that the Lion was the firstborn and the template all other Primarchs were based on. While some were definitely designed at the same time, some had a lot more work put into them than others. There's also the fact that the Emperor and Malcador decided to create redundancies which could probably help us understand what the lost Primarchs were meant to be.

    • @BananenbaumEY
      @BananenbaumEY 10 месяцев назад

      @@starhammer5247 both of these statements are completly incorrect.

  • @topogigio7031
    @topogigio7031 10 месяцев назад +19

    I so badly want to make a list of Night Lords and Iron Warriors under one banner

    • @loneal627
      @loneal627 10 месяцев назад +3

      Do it brother

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 3 месяца назад

      No reason why they couldn't fight side by side. But like all chaos alliances it would be temporary until their interests once again diverge.

  • @thehivemind5531
    @thehivemind5531 10 месяцев назад +4

    My hot take here is that the 10th company are the exception not the rule when it comes it night lords, nearly every other depiction has them way more chaosy. Yes the night lord hate chaos but i fell that its really just hate for the sake of hate. Talos has ADB syndrome in that his best characters are the opposite to what we expect from them

  • @CousinOfCurze
    @CousinOfCurze 10 месяцев назад +10

    Decimus didn't unite the Legion against the Imperium though. Decimus had his sights well set on Craftworld Ulthwe. And then they decided to NEVER AGAIN mention that whole plot point. This meeting took place right before Abaddon threw a castle at Cadia. It's about time we get an update on the Night Lords little own genocide against a Craftworld. Especially since we know there were active Night Lord warbands working alongside Vashtorr during the Arks of Omen.
    I just want a named Night Lords character man. I am running out of Slavic names to give my boys.

    • @justaurora01
      @justaurora01 Месяц назад

      nightlord successor chapter loyalists would help ya with that

  • @friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel
    @friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel 10 месяцев назад +10

    I really love the Nightlords especially when they resist chaos and it's pull, to spit in its face as a weak crutch for weak people.
    I seriously hope we get a single character ideally Decimus or a unit of terror infantry with some rules as I miss the rules we had in 9th.

  • @austenashtree9542
    @austenashtree9542 10 месяцев назад +2

    Day 42 of asking for a video on Trajann Valoris

  • @OneReallyGrumpyJill
    @OneReallyGrumpyJill 10 месяцев назад +5

    I always thought that NL, fundamentally, are obsessed with having all the advantages and no disadvantages, which is why Chaos is a loss-loss for them.

  • @brayanfisk8769
    @brayanfisk8769 10 месяцев назад +3

    I know there are a night lord warband call the gorechained who worship khorne and another night lord warband call raptorous flayhost who worship tzeentch and slaanesh

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 3 месяца назад +1

      The remaining night lords are scattered and divided. So it's not surprising that many succumb to chaos worship.
      Their Daddy is no longer around to keep them in line and none of them are willing to take up the mantel.
      When in the eye of terror do as the Chaos marines do.

  • @zesty8772
    @zesty8772 10 месяцев назад +3

    How have you been enjoying Darktide since the large update?

  • @quaesitorfabularum2381
    @quaesitorfabularum2381 10 месяцев назад +9

    Thanks for another fascinating video! You always make some interesting content.
    I actually just discovered your videos summarizing alternate heresies a little while ago, and they were some of my favorite 40K videos to date. Though they did make me curious about what you might have to say about some other notable fan theories. Probably the biggest one would be the "Sigmar from Fantasy is a Lost Primarch" theory. Not sure if this is a good enough topic for a video, but how do you think Sigmar would fit into the 40K universe if it was true? I keep trying to figure out what relationships he would have with his Primarch brothers, but other than him probably being buds with Leman, I'm not sure what the others might think of him.

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 10 месяцев назад +2

    You think if you used one of those aquarium clicker things that Red Corsair navigator would do tricks and stuff?
    Day 344 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you.

  • @liamwalsh6398
    @liamwalsh6398 10 месяцев назад +4

    Longtime supporter of the channel bro. Iron warriors are goated and the best , but I like how the night lords also just said " fuck all y'all your all crazy" and dipped

  • @rumorcontrol7873
    @rumorcontrol7873 10 месяцев назад +3

    how much lore is there on Chaos Navigators, what happens to those who guide Chaos ships?

    • @Ghastly1
      @Ghastly1 10 месяцев назад +1

      The Nightlords Omnibus has a navigator as one of the major POV characters. Idk of any other lore that focuses on Chaos navigators. Sorcerers are capable of guiding ships through the warp as well, so navigators may not be that common.

  • @Outspacey
    @Outspacey 10 месяцев назад +3

    Make a video on what Timmy would do if he was brought back in Gmans position

  • @checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054
    @checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054 10 месяцев назад +76

    Could you make a video on some of the individuals that were protected by the Aquilan shield and how these individuals may have saved the Emperor?

  • @sasanahadian2859
    @sasanahadian2859 10 месяцев назад +6

    Superb video as always @majorkill.
    Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc

  • @scattyork4176
    @scattyork4176 10 месяцев назад +2

    In my opinion, when the galaxy burns and humanity vanishes into the gaping maw of chaos, the last remaining Space Marine is gonna be a Night Lord looting the body of the second last Space Marine, who was probably also a Night Lord.

  • @gadzilla6664
    @gadzilla6664 10 месяцев назад +3

    I see that Majorkills's love for the 8th Legion continues. Excellent. Ave Dominus Nox Brother.

  • @flugrekorderait8079
    @flugrekorderait8079 10 месяцев назад +6

    Hey MK, have you thought about making a video of what the chaos primarchs would do if they came back, loyalist, instead of Guilliman? Thought it could be fun.

  • @WhiteMoose211
    @WhiteMoose211 10 месяцев назад +7

    Attempt Number 6
    Could the Istvaan V loyalist legions have held Terra?
    If Chaos forces were are at the same strength during the siege as it happened in canon
    Vulkan is present at Terra so could close the webway quickly, saving all of the forces who died during the War in the Webway for use in the siege (Custodes, Imperial Guard, Sisters of Silence etc)
    Ferrus Manus is alive and all Iron Hand/Salamander tech is present for the loyalists
    Raven Guard and Corvus Corax conduct strikes behind chaos lines, similar to how the White Scars operated.
    And of course....Vulkan can't die
    Could Vulkan, Ferrus and Corvus have killed Ka'Bhanda, Angron, Mortarion, Horus?

    • @samhobbs9116
      @samhobbs9116 10 месяцев назад

      Nope not even close. Doesn't even need a video to explain that.

    • @WhiteMoose211
      @WhiteMoose211 10 месяцев назад +3

      Why not? Ferrus Manus and the Iron Hands would be suited to the defence, Vulkan and the Salamanders would be well equipped to deal with Chaos in close quarters, Corvus and Raven Guard could harass them, all are strong primarchs, Vulkan is invincible, Horus said if he had Ferrus then the heresy would've been won. There'd be no War in the Webway. That's a hell of a lot of advantages.

    • @WhiteMoose211
      @WhiteMoose211 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@samhobbs9116 Not to mention Vulkan would have all his technology which is insanely OP

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@WhiteMoose211that's because Ferrus was a great leader and the Iron Hands were hyper efficient warriors, not because Ferrus was some Uber Primarch like Sanguinius. Sanguinius would literally win any fight he threw himself into because he was fated to die to Horus, Ferrus in this new canon isn't afforded anything beyond not getting clapped on Istvaan. Also, replacing the cool headed Rogal with the notoriously hot headed Ferrus would probably see the traitors win just because it took the cold autistic calculation of the Fists to barely hold Terra, anything less, let alone the opposite, would see mistakes made and exploited. Royal defeated Alpharius because he made himself so single minded and cold that nothing in the universe would deviate him from his plan. Nothing could be said to stop him. Ferrus on the other hand doesn't have anywhere near that level of self control.
      Next, I don't think Corvus could defeat Mortarion. Jaghatai had the endurance to match Morty's Plague and Nurglite buff, Corvus is just sneaky and skilled.
      Lastly, let's not forget the most crucial element to the Heresy: Alpharius and Omegon. As shown when the Emperor and Malcador war gamed the Heresy over and over, if the win was too one sided for the Imperium, they both rush to the palace and kill the Emperor. The Heresy was perfectly balanced, so even if they do win, they lose. The current outcome was THE BEST option.

    • @WhiteMoose211
      @WhiteMoose211 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@alastor8091 Rogal would indeed be a loss for the loyalists in the defence but with the Webway closed really quickly, the Emperor is free to a) calm Ferrus down so he's more effective and b) could probably lead the defence himself if needs be.
      Also it's possible Corvus could defeat Mortarion, just may need to be smarter about it.
      I wasn't really asking this question in the context of the cabal prophecy etc either. I was more interested in the actual practicalities of whether the Istvaan V loyalists found themselves defending Terra, could they successfully defend it.

  • @malal4751
    @malal4751 10 месяцев назад +4

    What if Clonegrim returned to the imperium? How would the imperium/the lion and rowboat Gorillaman react, how'd it impact the setting?

  • @feroexe7965
    @feroexe7965 10 месяцев назад +2

    Bruh Major you should've also looked into the new Nightlords models. They fucking dope af, way better than Asmoda-

  • @ImposCoE
    @ImposCoE 10 месяцев назад +3

    Captain was like "You want to see some sh!t!?" to the daemon within him

  • @thefallenjedi66
    @thefallenjedi66 10 месяцев назад +3

    *”Professionals have **_Standards_** .”*

  • @edyorozco7000
    @edyorozco7000 10 месяцев назад +4

    Major please bring back the kharn the betrayer singlet that says “get up”

  • @TheBitingBat
    @TheBitingBat 10 месяцев назад +1

    I mean when you skin people for a living you don't really need to sell your soul to the forces of hell. Like what would Chaos even offer the night lords?

  • @GarethDragon
    @GarethDragon 10 месяцев назад +7

    This channel is the reason I've started playing Tactics. It's definitely one of the better mobile games I've played or currently play. Thanks for the code too!

    • @KumquatChampion
      @KumquatChampion 10 месяцев назад

      Bro the code has 3 reqs!

    • @GarethDragon
      @GarethDragon 10 месяцев назад

      @@KumquatChampion 3 reqs? Sorry I don't know what you mean by that. EDIT- OK it just dawned on me by reqs you meant Requisition orders! That was really generous.

  • @donald9377
    @donald9377 10 месяцев назад +2

    Another reason why some of the night lords are anti-chaos. For the one raised on Nostramo and this is my theory that make sense to a certain point. Before the Heresy they were psycho's , killer's , murders , criminals of some kind (minor or major) and people of violance usually from a gang/criminal organisation on Nostramo. They seen the good , the bad and ugly before the heresy from a early life as most of the recruits from Terra and Nostramo later on . At a certain point they see what chaos can do from the other legion embrace chaos and say no knowing how messed up some of their life were pre-heresy. As being a criminal to a certain degree was a factor help them for the better or worse for being anti-chaos for the ones that stick to Servatar or Konrad teaching still in M41/M42 .
    As a sample Talo's was in a gang at a young age and saw what life was like in the neighborhood he grew up in under a gang control . Stuff like that change you for the better or for the worse at a certain point even for messed up some of the name night lords were from the Heresy . As even the night lord Zso Sahal from the novel lord of the night was anti-chaos , anti-imperium siding with the traitors while sticking true to the legion values when they meet a night lord warband that embrace chaos mutation's .

  • @tauras3108
    @tauras3108 10 месяцев назад +1

    They’re a jealous bunch the Nightlords. They believe they’re more pure in their evil than the puny warp gods . They don’t need the warp to be totally deranged and psychotic as there already that way.

  • @fishfossils8858
    @fishfossils8858 10 месяцев назад +3

    Hey Major, is there anyway you can talk about animals of old terra, which ones still exist, and the pets that humanity still has?

  • @loveblues9633
    @loveblues9633 8 месяцев назад +1

    They were fucked up enough before being corrupted by demonic deities, they dont need more chaos in their lives 😂

  • @sadlerbw9
    @sadlerbw9 10 месяцев назад +1

    My head canon: being originally a bunch of violent, but independent, criminals, the Night Lords retained a hatred of authority. They don’t like. Gaia telling them to do stupid shit any more than they like the Imperium doing it.
    This makes them different from the Luna Wolves, who were also criminals, but mostly underhive gangers. They were criminals, but ones that banded together in groups with structure and authority. The Night Lords were more lone psychopaths, which contributed to them chafing against any central authority.
    That’s just my opinion though.

  • @bobbay1562
    @bobbay1562 10 месяцев назад +3

    2:08 video start

  • @garypipe1770
    @garypipe1770 10 месяцев назад +2

    If the Emperor believes all his sons can be restored I wonder if Konrad could potentially be the first if GW go down the whole Curze's soul was saved in an Aeldari Soul Stone when he was killed. Imagine Decimus discovering that and uniting all uncorrupted Night Lords to find a way to bring back Curze.

    • @zachar40k
      @zachar40k 10 месяцев назад +1

      there is nothing to suggest that curzes soul is inside of the corona nox, its fan lore, not real lore, curze is dead and gone

    • @garypipe1770
      @garypipe1770 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@zachar40k That would be a shame as he is such an interesting character

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 3 месяца назад +1

      DOES he believe that?
      Because he's wrong if he does.

  • @gary1119
    @gary1119 10 месяцев назад +4

    Dear Majorkill, thank you very much for releasing a Night Lords video on my 23rd Birthday - as a son of The Eighth, this brought a smile to my face : )

  • @misterdeath2929
    @misterdeath2929 10 месяцев назад +1

    Does he still get the tingle if someone unsubs then resubs? Or only for an initial sub?🤔

  • @worthlesstrash9662
    @worthlesstrash9662 10 месяцев назад +1

    Night Lords don't join Chaos because they consider torture demons to be amateurs.

  • @austintaylor1378
    @austintaylor1378 10 месяцев назад +7

    It’s simply because the NightLords are already about surviving at all costs, get out alive, youre more important than anything we’re trying to collectively do. If NL don’t win quickly they leave. They also got to the see the results of “what happens to you if you get corrupted by chaos” cuz all the legions that rebelled and fought with them on Terra were crazy as fuuuuk

  • @danny_decheeto8300
    @danny_decheeto8300 10 месяцев назад +2

    I finished reading the first book of the night lords trilogy a few days ago
    Fr, I think hearing a Night Lord whisper “preysight” is probably one of the worst things to hear as a normal human

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 3 месяца назад

      It's just a fancy phrase for "thermal vision"

  • @entropicflux8849
    @entropicflux8849 10 месяцев назад +2

    my favourite, these guys had so much potential.

  • @cirnospaghet
    @cirnospaghet 10 месяцев назад +1

    They might be evil, but they have standards

  • @SanestTowa
    @SanestTowa 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m so glad majorkill introduced me to Tacticus, bro got me addicted and hooks me up with free hero shards once a blue moon too.

    • @SanestTowa
      @SanestTowa 10 месяцев назад

      Holy shit they were generous with this code

  • @lokensicarius9347
    @lokensicarius9347 10 месяцев назад +1

    I can see why big E likes irony, ironic that the 8th legion the most fucked up an evil of the legions would reject the 8fold path.
    Love Talos interaction with the chaos gods trying to directly corrupt him, especially with nurgle.

  • @grimgrom3355
    @grimgrom3355 10 месяцев назад +1

    Coolest legion, could’ve been handled better. If they were loyalist that would be cool

  • @shrednaught5
    @shrednaught5 10 месяцев назад +1

    what if you did a video of if Konrad stopped and thought after his fight with the lion that his preemptive visions don't have to come to pass since he thought he could beat him but the lion clapped his cheeks. sort of like the lion el heresy video but instead everything abt the heresy remains the same except Konrad changes sides and doesn't fully lose his shit

  • @adennkyramud116
    @adennkyramud116 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ave Dominus Nox! Best legion in midnight clad

  • @bindleberry
    @bindleberry 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m detecting a lack of Kenergy from Majorkill, literally not me

  • @YukitsuTimes
    @YukitsuTimes 10 месяцев назад

    I think the night lords, you more have to justify them not hating something. My default assumption of a thing is that night lords hate it. Even the night lords I assume the night lords hate. Possibly more than anything else.

  • @theskyking1858
    @theskyking1858 10 месяцев назад +1

    What if the emperor ascended as a chaos God

  • @robbie_the_mastermind2176
    @robbie_the_mastermind2176 10 месяцев назад +1

    You would think that the NL’s would go to Slaanesh.

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 10 месяцев назад

    "What about the sort-of loyal Alpha legion? . . ."
    I feel a disterbance in the force. As though every Alpha Legion fan whinced in unison at the lack fo ambiguity in this statement.
    The Alpha legion answers to none except their true alligence designated by cipher phrase 002347-Epsilon: "Sussus amongus" . . . unless it's a second day of the month and a tuesday at the same time, in which case they disavow that loyalty entirely and floow cipher phrase 102678-Zeta: "Deezus Nutus."

  • @Reevsy_Trav
    @Reevsy_Trav 10 месяцев назад

    I can't watch any Majrokill videos on the Night Lords because I'm reading through the Night Lords Trilogy by Aaron Dembski-Bowden and I just got a spoiler about Vandred/The Exalted 😭

  • @MT--WesleyCrumblebee
    @MT--WesleyCrumblebee 4 месяца назад

    I’m 2/3 through the Soul Hunter book and the Night Lords are enthralling.

  • @Dead0Bone0Brook
    @Dead0Bone0Brook 10 месяцев назад

    Ah Tactics, the abusive relationship of video games. 🤣 Even SWGOH isn't as harsh on its players. 😂
    Grate view like always, I learned something new. =^w^=

  • @XYZ-eo8um
    @XYZ-eo8um 10 месяцев назад

    Yeah, they may not be entirely Chaos aligned, but I'd never to meet some superhuman psychos with daddy issues (allegedly inherited from ADB, Black Library author who focused mostly on Night Lords), who wear flayed skin and body parts as coll accessories...

  • @antonkiselev7768
    @antonkiselev7768 10 месяцев назад

    Oh come on! There are multiple Daemon princes among Night Lords - Krieg Acerbus, Gendor Skraivok + posessed Exalted, etc.

  • @HHARRman
    @HHARRman 10 месяцев назад

    I'm waiting for the return of Decimus and the others in another sequel for the Night Lords.
    AVE DOMINUS NOX

  • @gso619
    @gso619 10 месяцев назад

    Majorkill: So, how did they do it?
    Me: This is going to be a video where literally every example is from the Night Lords trilogy, isn't it?
    Majorkill: Starting off with Sevat-
    Me: There we go.

  • @ogrelaca
    @ogrelaca 8 месяцев назад

    😂Really? Night Lords as a legion had not existed after the Lion's Angels of Death shot, beaten and kicked them to smithereens - Curze is killed, Sevatarion is lost and only warbands remained which belong to Chaos. Sorry, dear Major but it is dead wrong...

  • @kgp277
    @kgp277 10 месяцев назад

    Kinda makes sense if you’ve ever dealt with criminal groups. They do have their own flavor of honour and are pretty traditional. Can’t see a hells Angel or Russian mobster being down with twisty Slaanesh stuff.. 😂

  • @Kankan_Mahadi
    @Kankan_Mahadi 10 месяцев назад

    Are there any artworks of that "%*$(ed up Chaos dolphin"? LOL

  • @Kareszkoma
    @Kareszkoma 10 месяцев назад

    Why was this legion even allowed? Why were these Primarchs given a Legion?? How was this a Good Idea. Sensible, and Logical??

  • @TrickshotFactory677
    @TrickshotFactory677 10 месяцев назад

    Every Founding Chapter's homweorld explained

  • @angelotana3040
    @angelotana3040 10 месяцев назад

    Majorkill. Please address the drama with tacticus and his they are really screwing over their players.... it's alot but it's all over reddit, new company bought snowprint, please! Your a huge tuber, they will listen to you

  • @johnaeryns5364
    @johnaeryns5364 10 месяцев назад +1

    I hate that I'm about to do this, but tacticus is actually a really good game.

  • @dj11o9er
    @dj11o9er 10 месяцев назад

    Tbh i tried Tacticus some time ago. Didn't like it. Though im going to give the best 40k mobile game title to Drop Assault.
    Sob.
    Rest in peace, Drop Assault

  • @GenuinelyHorriblePerson
    @GenuinelyHorriblePerson 4 месяца назад

    Tacticus isnt bad, the prices can be abit ridiculous (29.99 for 3 characters) but you can unlock most of them for free through other means.

  • @Nostroman_Praetor
    @Nostroman_Praetor 10 месяцев назад

    This video explains why Gendor, The Painted Count, is a huge loser compared to other Night Lords.

  • @trousersnakes8855
    @trousersnakes8855 9 месяцев назад

    since when was it canon that the Raptor Cult follow Nurgle...? It was literally never disclosed, the slightest hint was when Lucoraphyus was seen without his helmet but he even admitted he no longer knew what he was......

  • @gulliverthegullible6667
    @gulliverthegullible6667 10 месяцев назад

    I wish there was a traitor legion that quit their service simply because they realised that the Imperium is fascist. One good faction amongst all the Grimdark would be refreshing.

  • @thomaskovacs5094
    @thomaskovacs5094 10 месяцев назад

    Red corsairs being heavily corrupted is shitty writing imo. Idk maybe I don't know the story good enough

  • @AcoylteKraven82
    @AcoylteKraven82 10 месяцев назад

    Is there a email to talk to someone about a mini order? I tried emailing the only email address that contacts me about major minis. But I got a email back the next day saying something about that address can’t except emails!?! And I have a concern that it’s now probably way too late to deal with!!!

  • @mogwaiman6048
    @mogwaiman6048 9 месяцев назад

    The Night Lords are a chaos corrupted legion, they utilize chaos as a tool and implement chaos empowered assets within their various warbands.

  • @dougjones3305
    @dougjones3305 Месяц назад

    It would kinda make sense that sevatar became one of the first grey knights due to he being a psyker as well as hating chaos (demons) and there being gray knights who where recruited from traitor legions as well as loyal. Not to mention not knowing what happened to him.

  • @va818
    @va818 10 месяцев назад

    Vandred's death was perfect: "I hope this hurts". Also, fuck Ruven.

  • @fg1735
    @fg1735 10 месяцев назад

    Day 1 of asking Majorkill to make a video on each legion's best achievement/battle/victory

  • @Frescko
    @Frescko 10 месяцев назад

    Video 59 of asking ‘What if Nykona Sharrowkyn killed Fulgrim’

  • @paulellington1505
    @paulellington1505 10 месяцев назад

    Love me some Night Lords. Even though they are made out to cowards because of how they fight, when they are fighting in their element they are hard to contend with. Besides who decided that wearing bright colors and charging in automatic fire was brave lol

  • @keane2292
    @keane2292 28 дней назад

    I'm just getting into warhammer lore and am loving all the lore videos I come across, this is one of my favorites by far cause of the contrast between the serious vibe and the aussie humour

  • @khairallahdh
    @khairallahdh 10 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly this is why of all the traitor legions, these guys have my respect more than the others. They rebel against the emperor without selling their souls to arguably even worse entities.

  • @KrautGoesWild
    @KrautGoesWild 10 месяцев назад

    Ultramarines = Men who help blind children.
    Night Lords = Men who help blind children.

  • @mrstopmotionpotion4636
    @mrstopmotionpotion4636 10 месяцев назад +1

    hair looks great mate

  • @LocalFemboy427
    @LocalFemboy427 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can we get a video on Lord Solar Arcadian Leontus?
    For the Imperium!

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 10 месяцев назад

    This is just a question but who would win: Every space marine chapter vs pre heresy legions

  • @mrckapm2241
    @mrckapm2241 10 месяцев назад

    Kinda funny that the Chapter and Legion you find to be the most irrelevant (at least lore wise) is the one your Tacticus guild is named after