The Night Lords & Why They're Hated | Ep.71
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Y'all finally did it! It's nightmare time!
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-Isyander
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Sly Marbo doesn't ask for an episode. Isyander and Koda ask Sly Marbo for an episode.
Sly marbo once raced a vindicare assassin’s bullet, and won.
@@ghostfire8313And afterwards proceeded to play Chicken with the bullet and also won.
sly marbo doesnt shoot guns he pick up a bolter and fires bolters
Sly Marbo is eerily watching from afar and up close simultaneously and waiting for you to not make the decision to interview him
Sly doesn't pray to the emperor, the emperor prays to Sly Marbo ❤
The night lords basically weaponized emotional damage.
Heroes of the imperium or I shall in fact be *p e t u r b e d*
Weaponized emotional damage, and weaponized kitchen implements
Emotional Damage, hah!
When I was in primary schooI I walk 20 mile up hill, both way. A Knight Lord would pull skin off me each morning for school. I have to swim last mile across saltwater, piranha-filled lake in winter. This all happen while Curz taunt me on servo skull made out of my dog's skull. One day he give me compliment and say "A+ blood equal A+ student but you first person I meet with type F- blood!"
@@LaughingJokerProd you can get a LOT done with a cheese grater, just ask Deathmatch wrestlers.
My god Koda is learning
We need to stop him before he gets too strong
Koda is on his way to destroy the psichic shield around the palace trying to warn everyone about the heresy
@@raphaelbessler2411Koda did nothing wrong
He is the chosen one, meant to bring balance to the fandom
"Did you know that a spoon may be dull, but can be pushed through your skin with enough force? Act out and you will see a hands on demonstration."
feel
If the first vision Curz had with the boy came to fruition he may have been my favorite primarch. How tragic but that's 40k for ya
Could you imagine that Curze? With that boy as his first captain, and the Night Lords being recruited from the Nostraman law enforcement? That would be so cool
Imagine the heresy trying to happen while the Nightlords are playing hardcore Amongus on half of their ships, like Konrad did with the Lion's ship.
Curze: Horruussss
Horus and Abbadon: He’s in the fucking walls! He’s in the goddam walls!
@@kingskelett6265 It's what they're best at, hiding in the shadows and scaring the bejeezuz out of people.
@@indrys7719⁷⁷😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Curze's mind is a choose your own adventure book and he sees every ending of everything at all times. He could've been a hero but has been broken and forced to become a monster by the world surrounding him as his only way out AND HE LOVES IT
If you read any Night Lords stuff you know that loving part is Lorgar levels of wrong.
"That's a crime punishable by crime!"
- Curze, probably.
Ultramarines being the losers of the losers bracket...*Ultralosers*
*snickers maniacally while twirling blood stained moustache
Ci-Ci Ciaphas Cain! Hero of the Imperium!
Ciaphas Ciaphas!
Caiphas Cain! Hero of the Imperium
Hey what about the mood kindred? Calgar?
@@gatordragon6140 he did get his episode, but it's on the patreon
@@Brigtzen thanks ill keep that in mind next pay check lol
We desperately need an episode on Caiaphas Cain, the Hero of the Imperium
Cai Cai caiaphas Cain hero of the imperium!!!~
Amberley Veil approves!
We need a Ciaphas Cain Episode
This right here
Yesss~ desperately
I've requested it for a while, and besides, I think we're well overdue for an episode laced with imposter syndrome and recaf.
Yes sir
This man speaks true
for those who are curious :
funkytown is a reference to a video called funkytown gore where cartel executes a dude by cutting off his hands , flayiing his face and cutting his throat while pumping him full of adrenaline so he is concious to feel all of it. Oh and there is "Sweet Child O' Mine" and
"funky town" playing in the background.
p.s. if you are under 18 plese don't read the comment above.
Ahh i remember the gauntlet that was fun back when they had all the og vids lol
👍@@superkoksu487
statistically, i bet someone has been killed/horrifically tortured to every popular song imaginable
@@dogf421 you can help by expanding the list.
Something that's often forgotten about Curze is that even Angron had a happier childhood than Curze. Angron at least had the other gladiators he had for companions, but Curze was literally left as a feral child to grow up in the streets of super Gotham. His personality split into The Night Haunter, Curze was often seen as a benevolent leader who would actually show mercy on others when he ruled while wearing the Corona Nox.
Some in the community, myself as well, believe that Curze had shifted his soul and personality into it allowing The Night Haunter, who flayed and exacted Justice in a ruthless manner, to run amok knowing that he would eventually be brought to justice by his Father. His soul would also be trapped in the crown and possibly be reincarnated at a later date after he had served what he believed was his penance. I mean if Fulgrim can have a perfect clone and Rowboat Girlyman can be resurrected, then so could Curze.
Besides, think of how insane it'd be to have a LOYALIST Curze and Nightlords come back. Him and Corvus just having a bro-mance hunting down ALL the other traitor Primarchs. Story writes itself to be honest.
Also, while the Iron Warriors carried the Horus Heresy. Had Curze NOT been a traitor, the Emperor would not be sitting on the throne. He delayed the Dark Angels and Ultramarines long enough for everyone else to blitz Terra.
On top of that he made the Lion even MORE paranoid, secretive and vengeful than he already was, something his legion carried on after the Scouring. Kurze didn't need the Night Lords, he made a more efficient version!
why do people always seem to want more imperial winning
their not supposed to be the good guys
stop cheering when GW dumbs down the setting and makes them the good guys
@@ashardalondragnipurakethe warped sense of Realism some warhammer 40K fans have is mind-boggling sometimes. The 0% crime rate is a good example. That is entirely based off of Crimes Noticed and Acknowledged as Crime. It would be more realistic for the Night Lord's to cook the books to achieve those numbers to justify their existence. You know, some murders become Missing Persons, Tax and Financial and even Identity Fraud is largely unreported, they just butcher most of the people connected to the "missing persons" to call it a day "the murderer was probably amongst them". Stuff like that.
@@ashardalondragnipurakeyou answered your own question.
@@ashardalondragnipurakebecause people are allowed to like things and root for the bad guys when everyone’s a bad guy, but some are significantly worse than others 😂
Because it’s all canon but not all of it is true
Because it’s a fantasy and you’re allowed to decide what’s true and what isn’t for you
Because the books are just extra stories, and stories need hero’s and villains
Because it’s fun to want humanity to prevail against the darkness and make it through the religious dogma into a brighter future
Because it’s what the fans want
Because chaos is so absurdly evil they make everyone else look good by comparison, even the Necrons, Eldar and Orks have more support because they’re out cartoonishly evil just because they feel like it
Like I thought of those off the top of my head, but I could probably keep going if I put some effort in 😂
"It was said that the Legio Astartes 'know no fear'. The Night Lords proved this assertion to be false."
32:04 technically crime rates are also dependent on what is defined as a crime and it doesn't get into the severity of crimes being committed are, or their motivations for crime. I mean, a girl shooting their sexualy abusive father in the head while they sleep gets you 30 years in jail because that's technically not self defense in the USA. Weed Posessions are a Federal Offense. And if I don't report the missing sex workers as Murdered, just missing, then that's not technically a crime so my station's stats are A-OK.
In defence of Zhukov, the military strategy was sound. It's just that they faced the brunt of the German forces. Also most of the decisions on the eastern front was "go this way and lose 50k men or go the other and lose 40k" (heh)
Also many of USSR loses were cilivians that Germans killed to clear terrain for colonization by Germans
Soviet logistics were god awful too. They could mass produce but they couldn't get the stuff they made to the front lines
@@quentindaugherty4926 I mean, you gotta remember that they still recovered from brutal civil war. How much time were they in power? 20 years? I may not be an expert, but fixing all things like broken economy, technological underdevelopment in industry and agriculture (latter is the reason of many famines during Russian Empire) as well as underdevelopment of their vast land in general (railroads in particular; during Russian Empire military officers frequently told they need to develop inwards instead of expanding outwards, like into China), broken military that needed to be made from ground up and so on and so forth.
The Russians have had the same battle tactics for several hundred years. They've never advanced
@@quentindaugherty4926Soviet Union moves over 1400 factories in 1 - 6 months, and successfully deploys hundreds of millions of tonnes of supplies over the largest landmass on the planet sourced from all corners of the planet:
Average Westerner: "The Soviets were terrible at logistics."
Propaganda is amazing isn't it. I'm so sick of defending the "union" that starved my family in Ukraine and let the Dirlewanger brigade decimate what was left, and yet, the brilliance of Western information warfare consistently puts me in the position of telling the Westerners who don't actually care that they have just dribbled sh*t from their mouths. Thank goodness it's only the masses and not everyone..
I think Isyander missed something. Nostromo is not just dead, Curze kept firing till that sucker splintered.
Konrad Curze is literally The Batman who laughs but without the laughing part, and I love him and his legion immensely for it.
The Batman who broke
Ohh I think he laughs. So much. Even if it is just to instill more fear.
I can’t wait to describe the whole night lords legion as just funkytown in ceramite.
What is funky town?
@@BAbabyfaceMFoh boy...
@@BAbabyfaceMFDon’t ask, don’t google … believe me, don’t
@babyfac3107 it's better if you don't know. But it is also the name of a song.
@@BAbabyfaceMFits a video of a real cartel torture/execution. I seriously beg you, do not look it up. It is sickeningly brutal and involves things that makes the saw franchise seem tame. With the added horror of it being a real person being subjected to these things.
This list of night lord’s atrocities is incomplete, YOU CAN HELP BY EXPANDING IT!!!!
Alright I'll get my potato peeler you bring the pasta strainer
Actual quote from Kurze, regarding nostramo "There is a murder every 9 seconds, a rape every 7"
Iron within, iron without.
The Coalition of Petty is best, now to help the Thousand Sons.
Thank you! Ahriman and Magnus are my boys
In an awesome battle with a Chaos worshiper, Cain says 'Frak this, my soul's my own and I'm keeping it!' A witness heard it as. 'Then the prophet spake: saying "Frak this, for my faith is a shield proof against your blandishments!".' Just the fact that a splinter cult worships Cain as the living embodiment of the God-Emperor's will at all...
An Officially approved one, no less
Running a night lords army and having a speaker playing funky town the entire time is a new life goal
Nostromo is basically, was basically the camoragh of the imperium
Guilliman: lawful good
Curze: Lawful Evil defined.
This 40k stuff isn’t complicated
Chaotic Evil trying to play Lawful Evil*
Curze is a psychotic, sadistic monster ruled by him impulses. He uses the veneer of rules to justify it to himself before finally just giving up the plot and embracing his nature.
Wouldn't Guilliman be Lawful Neutral and Vulkan be Lawful Good?
@@mariofan1ishboth are lawful good
Just one is more towards lawful and other more towards good part of a spectrum
@@mariuscatalin5982 Idk. The Destruction of Lorgar Home Town screams more Lawful Neutral. He is Indiferent on Destruction as long as its commanded or Needed. He is not a Inteligent Psycho, but he does act a lot Machine-Like, Sometimes Downright inhuman (Even Though he has some of the most humanizing Moments of 40k)
Once again voting for the heroes of the imperium, I want to hear y'all talk about commissar cain
Just to annoy Isyander, I vote for the inquisition 😁
Excited to hear about the imperium's silliest clowns such as caiphas and sly
Hey guys I love the carcaradons, the “space sharks” I would love to see a video on the shark boys and the big shark daddy tyberos the red wake
Eyy you got both!
@@MydasAU I KNOW!!!!
"Its arts and crafts."
Me: with human skin.
*giggles* oh dear, i really am a warped puppy.
Konrad saw a good and bad future that all started with a small boy and he chose poorly. So poorly that it became his very own hubris.
I’m a simple man I see y’all drop I click
Just for Isyander, lets get the Ultramarines episode.
No, just as the iron warriors, i am spiteful for no discernable reason.
As a Salamander would have seen it I feel Isyander needs his ultramarine vid
@@snifferdawg3607 FIIIIIIIIIIINE. But I don't have to like it!
No. 😛
@@snifferdawg3607 as Dark Angels enjoyer i have to say no before Blueberru Fuckers The First Legion needs some love and paranoia
One point, and in my opinion a big, BIG one you and many others forgot to bring up, is that they were tutored by the Emperor's Children.
So to me, they're not just thugs at best, deranged psychopaths at worse, they're also very skilled warriors, tacticians and strategists. Their biggest problem though is that they can ruin this advantage quickly because they become over confident and laxed and then things start to fall apart.
One particular example I can think of is the battle of Sotha where a bunch of Night Lords capture essentially a space buoy and wait for the Ultramarines to investigate. They let the Ultramarines come investigate into the very depths and then spring their trap only for it to quickly fall apart. Although they won that, they took more casualties than they should have and what should have been essentially an execution of a squad of Ultramarines, turns into a running gun fight. Following this up, the battle of Sotha goes fantastic for all of half a day. A company of Ultramarines, a thousand marines, a few scouts, some Imperial Fists and at least one loyal Iron Warrior (although maybe a little more), with a few accompanying battle automata from the Mechanicum, are the only defenders of the world. They wipe out 900 Ultramarines in like an hour taking pretty much no losses. They have 10,000 Night Lords, there are now currently maybe 150 marine defenders, like 30 scouts, some PDF troops who don't really care about being in the army. This battle then goes on to last like, a month, then the Dark Angels arrive to rescue the defenders. They did so well, they absolutely had this in the bag and yet they drop the ball. What happened? So in my eyes, when these guys put their minds to something, forget about it, they absolutely will take apart the enemy.
I like the Night Lords, I really do and not because I'm an edge lord. I see for a lot of Night Lords they are bad almost through and through, but for many they WANT a reason to live, they lament their existence and that they have no way out. I'm a Christian and I love God, not because I'm a good person, but because I'm a bad person and God loves me regardless of who I am and what I do and what I think and some of what could be described about the Night Lords, can be said about me in my soul. As well, there are many Christian Saints who have done bad things and been bad people, who have found forgiveness and atonement and repented of their ways, first that come to mind is Saint Paul. Saint Paul hunted down, persecuted and killed Christians, he enjoyed it, he thought he was doing the right thing persecuting people who were poor and down trodden. Does this sound familiar. I'm not saying I'd like God to show up in 40K and fix all the problems, but the Night Lords to me are the closest to becoming absolved and potentially bouncing back to be quite possibly the most humble, caring legion
Night Lords trying to take over catachan: we've been here for 5 years, surely they will break soon!
Meanwhile catachan population: the last couple of years have been weirdly peaceful...
The iron warriors/night lords alliance has been fulfilled. Voting for caiphus Cain so the blueberries dont get a video
Imagine doing an Ultramarine cosplay during an Ultramarine episode. Thatd be craaaaazy....right?
Athrillay, Vylas’!
I want you guys to know just how grateful I am for this episode.
Ever since I discovered you guys, I have done nothing but desire a Night Lords episode.
When this recent poll went online I created a Patreon just to vote for them.
Frequently writing comments in character.
Such satisfaction from watching this.
And there is still more to come.
Cannot wait for Sevatar.
AVE DOMINUS NOX, VYLAS’!
May the algorithm treat you well.
Oh man a Ciaphus Cain episode with the chemistry between these two would be fking hilarious
Isyander: "There are entire systems, there's entire groups that only function because they propagate fear."
Me nodding: "The IRS."
Night lord bros, we are so back
Me:"One day we'll get a raven guard episode"
Reality: "Nevermore"
It happened :>
Ultramarines, let's talk about how kurze skined planets in his little empire.
All thanks to the Lion and his silly secrets
Definitely need a Heroes of the Imperium Episode
I like the space sharks a lot could y'all do a episode on them 🙂👍
btw thank y'all for doing what y'all do 😊
I am really wanting that Inquisition episode from you guys! This podcast has single handedly gotten me back into 40k Lore.
I've never been so milly-rocked by a reference in my life like Funky Town
Same here
@@nerobsc7597I don't get it
@@jidk6565 and it’s better that way
Non stop brilliant content, thank you both , glad to be a member 👍🏻 keep up the amazing lore vids boys
Goddamnit I see the notification and an Eric Andre reference, you guys are actually my favorite podcast.
But in all actuality, I'm looking forward to the blindingly, childishly grim shenanigans of our batmen
8:23
Yeah. Goddamn.
Love this channel, watching (and listening in Spotify ) more than daily, you guys have a voice like fresh honey and melted ice cream, hoping for an ultra episode on the ultra correct answer 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Love your videos and you are why I started warhammer 40k
2:24 there's a movie called the death of stalin where he makes an appearance and I read somewhere that in the scene where zhukov ( played by Jason issacs) was introduced, he was supposed to have more medals but they removed some because people thought the sheer amount of medals he had was meant to be a joke
That movie is a wild ride, it is so bat shit crazy you think it is all made up. Apparantly things got that wild, but the timeline was longer.
Heroes of the Imperium! The badass human need their time to shine!
These guys are just so adorable and informative
Gotta do hero’s if the imperium. Deserves more attention
The Nightlords 1st Captain, Sevetar is was the first to say “Death to the False Emperor.”
I know you mostly do entire legions and not just chapters besides a few, and I don’t know if you have done this one on patreon or not, but a Carcharodons, Space Sharks, episode would be amazing, especially their chapter master, Tyberos, "The Red Wake", he is a unite, and needs to be talked about, and the rest of the Space Sharks are amazing, but to be honest I mostly love them just because of Tyberos is really cool
Oh boy they did it
In kurzes defense of the suicide women thing, there was a precedent for it. In England in the 1800s, attempted suicide was punished by hanging. It was a law to discourage people from trying since hanging was a very painful way to die.
Its not. Hanging was done in a fashion thay snapped ypur neck and you are dead instantaniously.
May The Emperor bless us with the inquisition next episode
“Funky town”
My fucking fight or flight response kicked in. Why must you remind me of that horror to mankind
The tales of the hero’s of the imperium must be regaled lest the commissar come to knock
Sly Marbo once questioned an inquisitor and he listened
Great episode like always!
Please make an episode about Sevatar because he is the best Night Lord, even better than Kurz IMO. Also, he didn't die in the heresy. Aaron Dembski Bowden (ADB) confirmed on social media that Sevatar didn't die in the heresy as it is more of a "prologue" to his story. Finally I did want to mention Decimus who may or may not be uniting the Night Lords again though GW and ADB havent done anything with his story sadly.
Ci-Ci Ciaphas Cain, Hero of the Imperium!
I want a what if the night lords took DC Earth, and the Night Haunter hunted and captured Batman for a 1 on 1 debate on justice. Resulting in Bruce Wayne being forced to become a sudo-Astartes since he's too old.
Sevatar and Talos are top tier night lords that could get their own episodes
CI-CI-CI-CIAPHIS CAIN! HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!!
Its funny, all the reasons said in this episode on why people dislike the Night Lords are all the reasons others LOVE THEM
I love you guys, thank you for this mighty episode. Our time in the light is highly appreciated
IM MID NIGHT SHIFT. THE CAFFINE IS KICKING & THERES A NEW EPISODE LETS GO
GIMME THE BLUE BERRY'S!!! (I love y'all's podcast so much it got me into Warhammer, hope y'all do the ultramarines)
We really need a hero's of the imperium episode.
Another great analysis and exposition. I thoroughly enjoy your content. I will continue to watch and hope for both of your continued success. Not many can do such long-form content so successfully. I look forward to future episodes.
LETS GO NIGHTLORDS LETS GO
Love the resigning that a Heroes of the Imperium would just end up being Ciaphas Cain, though it is a good subject to go with.
Tbf, the Commissars kind of *are* the Imperium's Poster Boys, both in and out of universe. Gaunt, Cain and Yarrick were Legends even to their enemies.
Make me mad? Make me mad?!?!
SIR.
I love Curze *BECAUSE* he's a doomer, thank you very much.
I pray to the emperor of mankind that you cover the Blood Ravens and their many holy relics!!!
Sly Marbo is in your closet. He will begin screaming if he doesn't get an episode.
AAAAAAA, AAAAAA AAA?
HEROS! For the Glory of the Imperium!
You probably shouldn't be numbering pateron episodes in the same series as the public youtube ones. I think it might make it harder for the algorithm to suggest subsequent episodes.
I REALLY want to watch but i actually just started reading the books
Yea we need a Ciaphas Cain episode for sure
Nobody expect the [Imperial] Inquisition
The Custodes once brought the hundred most deadly monsters of Catachan to Terra for a Blood Game. After the warp jump only Sly Marbo was left. They declared him the winner three days later.
Are the Carcharadons made with night lord gene seed or am I tripping?
I know the Ultramarines are not well liked, but I like them a bit. Especially Guillaman, he is doing his best and I respect that. So, I vote for them.
*Courage and Honour*
It's not entirely the Smurf's fault. They got *so much* written about them and handed so many Ws it ended up making people resent them.
You gotta do Talos and first claw, pretty please
@Koda proud of you for being happy with your decorations amd keeping it down to 5 volts I see you...excellent work
Actually it wasn’t the Ultramrines it was the AlphaLegion the whole tiiiiiime
Small note; Nostromo is not a tombworld, it is flat-out gone. He blew that shit into pieces.
Give us the Ciaphas Cain episode
THAT NUCLEAR GHANDI WAS SO NERDY AND I FINALLU GOT IT, SO TRUE(a viewer from wv)
Sly Marbo needs an episode
There's a lot of raven guard fans who want a video about them but they are stealthy
I really want the inquisition
I have flayed many to get this video! And I will flat more for another!
"8ft Tall Funky Town."
Dear Christ man, thats fucked.
And horrificly accurate.
Please explain what funkytown is
you need to add this to the playlist
Let's get an Ultramarines episode for our ultra bro Isyander
Thank you 🙏🏻