Hey everyone. The wheel speed chart is now available for download on our website. Head over to our site and at the bottom of the home page you will find the download! Thanks for all the support!
I went through the entire video and there's a lot of valuable info yet the trick/rule of thumb I use is not mentioned so here we go. As a base, try to keep your wheel speed around 2x your ground speed. You can do a grip lap and find out your rough ground speed with either the speedo or rpm or use gps while drifting. So, let's say for Bikiernieki you go about 100km/h real speed in the faster bits, then you gear for 200km/h. You can go as low as 1.5x but you will lose a lot of control and gain some speed and up to 2.5x if you can spin it for massive angle and smoke but less speed. Hope this helps.
I was the one who asked for this in the last video. Thank you so much for clarifying so much and yes this could use a deeper dive and I would love one, but I’m not going to ask for that coz you’ll properly have problems with viewer retention if you do 😅
You should consider making a blank track log book to sell. People need to realize this kind of knowledge and forethought when it comes to setup isn’t just conversational, it’s real world advice that people can take to the track. I write notes on the window of the car for setup changes and current alignment specs, and if I finish the day and I didn’t like how it felt I know immediately what could be changed. Great content!
i would love to see an in depth video on wheel speed, definately something i'm lacking to get the full performance out of my winters! love ya stuff josiah!
@@FDFraceshopjust if we could maybe get a ideal ratio of car speed to wheel speed? I know it changes from tire to tire and woth horspower numbers but maybe just to get a guideline for a starting point of where our wheel speed should be to start?
It would be cool to see a long form video of this whit possibly Simulations or real world videos for examples. I would definitely watch it and great work FDF.
Really cool and thanks for sharing. I have a question that is difficult to convey. With all of these changes in setup does the driver feel like they have to relearn the car to a certain degree? Is there a certain point where lack of experience and cognitive load of the way the car is driving different outweighs the vehicle performance benefit? I guess this is a question of driver skill vs cognitive load vs vehicle performance.
Thanks for the info! Did I miss it or did you not say what is your typical wheelspeed ratio? Where to start experimenting, when you start to drift with lets say 70mph?
Currently debating wether to change my stock 36 diff to the longest or shortest to aid wheel speed, my local place is between gears. Car is a 400bhp boosted m54, believe my current ratio is a 3.38, longer would be 2.93 and shorter would be 4.44
Does wheel diameter actually effect wheels speed? I know the number goes up but isn’t it pretty much saying the vehicle will go faster but the wheel spins at the same ratio so you only gain vehicle speed with bigger wheel ratio?
It is a bit of a puzzle, but think of it like this: A tiny wheel rotates more at a given car speed than a big wheel. So when you smoke the tire on a small wheel, its going at a much greater RPM than a larger wheel spinning the tire at the same overall car speed. It's easier to think of it in wheel rpm I think. The "wheel speed" thing listed as mph is weird IMO. It would actually be really cool for a nerd like Josiah to run wheel speed sensors and figure it out as a percentage of front vs back!
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Hey everyone. The wheel speed chart is now available for download on our website. Head over to our site and at the bottom of the home page you will find the download! Thanks for all the support!
Thank you so much 💜💚
not me immediately looking for the wheel speed chart on the website
We are working on getting it up!
@FDFraceshop I've been looking for something like for a while now and the video you made was the best and the chart was the clearest!!!
@@FDFraceshophaha that’s what she said 😂
@@FDFraceshoplet us know when you put them out as I’ve just tried looking also 😂
The wheel speed chart is now up on our website! fdfraceshop.com
Long form please!!! Thank you for all the infooooooo!!!!!!!!
The world is in FDF's hands rn and I'm here for it.
Getting some Riga practice in I see. Can't wait for DMEC to start!
I'm a grip driver and I like just learning from this guy.
I love Josiah’s tip
Yo?
I went through the entire video and there's a lot of valuable info yet the trick/rule of thumb I use is not mentioned so here we go. As a base, try to keep your wheel speed around 2x your ground speed. You can do a grip lap and find out your rough ground speed with either the speedo or rpm or use gps while drifting. So, let's say for Bikiernieki you go about 100km/h real speed in the faster bits, then you gear for 200km/h. You can go as low as 1.5x but you will lose a lot of control and gain some speed and up to 2.5x if you can spin it for massive angle and smoke but less speed. Hope this helps.
I was the one who asked for this in the last video. Thank you so much for clarifying so much and yes this could use a deeper dive and I would love one, but I’m not going to ask for that coz you’ll properly have problems with viewer retention if you do 😅
You should consider making a blank track log book to sell. People need to realize this kind of knowledge and forethought when it comes to setup isn’t just conversational, it’s real world advice that people can take to the track. I write notes on the window of the car for setup changes and current alignment specs, and if I finish the day and I didn’t like how it felt I know immediately what could be changed. Great content!
i would love to see an in depth video on wheel speed, definately something i'm lacking to get the full performance out of my winters! love ya stuff josiah!
This is awesome info, I’ve been struggling with this
Glad we can help!
@@FDFraceshopjust if we could maybe get a ideal ratio of car speed to wheel speed? I know it changes from tire to tire and woth horspower numbers but maybe just to get a guideline for a starting point of where our wheel speed should be to start?
Yes please share this on the website! all of the ok ones are in mph.
It would be cool to see a long form video of this whit possibly Simulations or real world videos for examples.
I would definitely watch it and great work FDF.
Fantastic video, thank you. I don't suppose you would care to share which tires you were comparing?
Pls add to website! Great video. Appreciate all the info
Really cool and thanks for sharing. I have a question that is difficult to convey. With all of these changes in setup does the driver feel like they have to relearn the car to a certain degree? Is there a certain point where lack of experience and cognitive load of the way the car is driving different outweighs the vehicle performance benefit? I guess this is a question of driver skill vs cognitive load vs vehicle performance.
Just did a 4.3 diff in my z hoping this will unlock 4th gear entries and proper wheel speeds.
Thanks for the info! Did I miss it or did you not say what is your typical wheelspeed ratio? Where to start experimenting, when you start to drift with lets say 70mph?
Wondering this as well
Cool knowledge🫡🤝
Currently debating wether to change my stock 36 diff to the longest or shortest to aid wheel speed, my local place is between gears. Car is a 400bhp boosted m54, believe my current ratio is a 3.38, longer would be 2.93 and shorter would be 4.44
This needs a full length video to really get into all of the aspects
cool, thanks!
Where's the download!!
Also long form on this please
We are working on the download and will keep you updated
@@FDFraceshop sound let's spread the knowledge happy to learn from fdf. You should consider maybe make a short hand course and charging for it ?
@@JKRmsrt The chart is now available for download on our website!!
@@FDFraceshop sweet looking now
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So with a dog box and quickchange you would pick a gear that works well in 4th gear for every track? Does that include short tracks too?
question :
its better use a longer ratio on second gear ? or use third on shorter ratio ? (250 hp car amateur competiton) thanks for answer !
How to find the best sensitivity for you
Definitely downloadable file!
please add to your website
Does wheel diameter actually effect wheels speed? I know the number goes up but isn’t it pretty much saying the vehicle will go faster but the wheel spins at the same ratio so you only gain vehicle speed with bigger wheel ratio?
It is a bit of a puzzle, but think of it like this: A tiny wheel rotates more at a given car speed than a big wheel. So when you smoke the tire on a small wheel, its going at a much greater RPM than a larger wheel spinning the tire at the same overall car speed. It's easier to think of it in wheel rpm I think. The "wheel speed" thing listed as mph is weird IMO. It would actually be really cool for a nerd like Josiah to run wheel speed sensors and figure it out as a percentage of front vs back!
Yes it does, while it would have the same angular speed, due to the different diameter the ground speed will differ as well.
Think of a larger diameter wheel and tire combo as a taller gear ratio.
Got a link to the spreadsheet brother?
We will be getting the spreadsheet download ready soon
@@FDFraceshop thanks y'all; I'm helping with engagement! :D
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