that's very true, i use a Olympus e-420 from 2008, it's awsome for the price that i got it and the age it has, well yeah it has only 10 megapixels but for Instagram pictures thats more than enough. i used that camera now from 3 months and like said it's brilliant.
I have a question: what do you think about 1) JR Alli 2) Yuri Palma To me, best young filmmakers and future superstars ( I consider Brandon Li and Ben Brown top class)
I know. Maybe if you announce it on your social media just like that someone will volunteer. Many unattractive (like myself) would love some beautiful photos since we really struggle to find at least a decent one. When I say unattractive I mostly think about asymmetrical faces that usually are harder to photograph.
What I like the most about this channel is that you always make a statement with as little words as possible. Time is money, and no time is wasted here! 👏
Justin's photo's were pretty standard instagram/vsco level! Which is to say _pretty good_ actually! He was a great sport : ) _Your_ photo's were *_lit_* & motivating to us to really expand & reimagine our idea's on how to shoot a single subject, Loved this (as always), thanks a ton!
Enough praise regarding the content of your video in the comments, just wanted to add that I really liked the cinematographic side of it too. So relaxing, I was actually a tad sad to see it being done so quickly. The music, way of filming and the model/scene just fit. Not sure how into it you guys are compared to photography, but thoroughly enjoyed it as a nice 'side dish' as it were.
Fabian totally agree. I watch this video every single day at least once. Love the music, the compositions, props, and the model. I think the video captures more audience as it is very calming and relaxing as much as educating. In love with the Justin's vinyl composition. Please more videos with Justin and the same model. Good job guys.
That is so true, in my photography class everyone bought a professional camera. I didnt have the money so i took our family camera, my photos were always the best, you can do amazing things with a clear concept and the correct light
Gear isn't only about your camera. Of course with an expensive location, a great white background and some nice things to show and a lot of light, you can do some beautiful picutures with both cameras.
I agree. It's almost exactly the gear I have right now. The 40mm is the only lens I've bought outside the kit (though I am planning on another one soon).
Karthikeya GS This video couldn't be anymore true I use a canon T6i with 50mm 1.8. Feel satisfied with my work. So many people forget the crucial post processing after shooting. prodigypaull.com/
Paul Paul hey checked out your website. There are some typographical errors in your FAQ section. Just to let you know so you can correct. Keep up the good work👍
I also think most people forget to properly learn the photographic skills, the simple use of their camera, composition, lighting, develop creativity etc...
Great point you have made and very well done! I just saw a photo that an amateur photographer posted in a very popular Facebook group which is all about portrait photography. The group's purpose is to learn by having your photo critiqued by the well-known photographer/instructor who owns the page and started the group, and from other group members. Looking at the photo there is no way anyone could tell what camera was used. The photo was not exposed well and not even in focus. It was amateurish, which is fine. The purpose of the group is to learn and grow in skill. What blew me away was when I looked at what equipment the guy used: Canon 5Ds R ($3,899 body only) AND Canon 70-200MM 2.8 L ($2,099). PERFECT EXAMPLE of everything you just proved in your video. Basic skills matter far more than equipment.
I like to think of gear as an insurance policy. Higher end gear is there to provide you security when you're faced with less than ideal shooting conditions to ensure you're still able to get a clear image. But at the end of the day it's up to the photographer to use his skill set and creativity to capture an image that is worth looking at.
exactly, better gears give versatility and more room for creativity. But that doesn't say cheap gears can't tell a good story. Keep shooting, guys, even when you have yet to afford the better gears(me neither). =)
The only complaint I have with my old T5i is its autofocus. But when it does get the "spur of the moment" shots in focus, it captures it incredibly well.
You all are always so wholesome, I have learned so much from you all. I look forward to every Monday because that means Mango Street releases a new video.
This video is definitely one of my favorites, so glad you're letting photographers know that expensive gear isn't necessarily what makes you professional but what you create. Thank you for this video.
I would love to see more videos kind of like this one where we get to watch you shooting, to get an idea of the creative/thought process behind taking great photos
Yes ideas and creativity I agree but try to shoot with Canon 1100D or some other camera in the cheapest class. I feel like the rebel T3i they used is still a stable camera idk.
The point of this video is to show you that your knowledge of photography is just as useful if not more, than gear. This video was to encourage many who can't afford the gear and have to work with what they have. This video was an example for all of those who do have the, "gear is the only thing that matters" mindset. Gear can be a big component but it is not the staple of a good photographer. I loved the video, thank you :)
Mango Street i can't believe you guys replied!! i love you guys so much your videos are inspiring and helpful! oh my good lord i'm in disbelief, thank you thank you thank you!! 💓💓
I love these short, sweet and to-the-point video tutorials, they really help make me think before shooting, or even planning a session for that matter! Glad I came across this channel :)
thank you for giving shot settings, i think it's important because coming from a professional or veterans of photography it helps give a better perspective in comparison to what some of us lesser skilled photog's are trying to accomplish.
The thing that stood out to me most is the importance of good lighting. Everyone's shots looked great and fairly similar thanks to that great light coming in from those big windows. Not to mentioned the talented model as well. Camera adores her.
Thought the spirit of the exercise was great! Loved Justin's shots and Mango's. The model did seem really easy to work with, is this a norm? I'd love to see Justin come back for cameo appearances.
He was in another tutorial of our's but I agree! He's great and we always want him around more. The model was also lovely and easy to work with. That is totally our experience every time we pay a model fairly ☺️
I was looking through my recommended feed and saw this video and when I watched it I was HOOKED. This channel and Peter McKinnon's are my absolute favorite! Great Video!
Thank you! I was worried about the camera so much that I forgot the basic. Sometimes I get so caught up in new tech that's seems like it coming out non-stop that if sometimes I feel like I am behind. But remember the basic and develop my skills as an artist. Thanks Mango street :)
Loved this. I'm a filmmaker/cinematographer, not a photographer, but the same issue always comes up. Someone who knows how to shape light and tell a story with their composition, camera movement and editing can use a lower-end camera and kit lens to produce better video content than someone with thousands of dollars in gear but no understanding of how or why to use any of it.
This was right on time for me. I definitely needed it. I only have a T3i, but recently bought a 50mm f1.4. I have to admit, I've gotten so hung up on having the "right" gear than perfecting my creativity and the art of telling the story. This video helps boost my confidence to go shoot with my little T3i. Thank you for posting this. It was a breath of fresh air.
Brilliant video that proved the point perfectly. Even though you pointed out Justin wasn't a total novice he still did exceptionally well, but again this was down to his natural talent rather than the camera. Great studio with oodles of natural light.
A great way to compare cameras to photographers when someone assumes the camera took the great pic and not the person behind it is this: When you read a great story or book, do you ask the writer what kind of computer or typewriter they used to write it?
Guys you rock! I'm so glad you brought this up. I am so surprised when people have barely started with their photography, have a dslr they don't know that well but want to jump into getting a top of the range full frame. You can still do so much with a cropped sensor too!
while it is true that gear does not matter , i would say that with every situation comes the importance of having the proper gear. not everyone can afford a 5d mk4, nor a d500. chances are that getting a certain job that requires a certain type of camera is paramount. but in this video, it just shows the proof that with a skilled mind, one can achieve even the most awesome of images with even the most basic setup.
I have a canon t3i and I honestly love it! I've had it for 4-5 years (I got it when the t3i was still fairly new) and it's still working wonderfully. And I love that you guys made it a point to emphasize that higher quality gear doesn't necessarily mean high quality pictures. It's really all about purpose and knowing how to use any camera to its fullest potential.
@@swaminnpublic well but that is actually the point of the video. You can clearly see that the guy with a pro camera didn´t took the pictures that the couple with the cheapest one lmao
People assume that buying a DSLR makes them a photographer. I know plenty of people who have done it. They go out and buy a big, expensive camera with a million features they can't use, and spend large sums of money on good lenses that sit and collect dust. People assume it's a foot in the door of the industry. Just because you can buy the same camera as or because the camera was super expensive, they claim they're photographers. But I've never heard of a single person going out and buying a hammer and drill, and calling themselves a builder. I've never seen anyone pick up a soldering iron and claim to be a robotics engineer. Being a photographer and getting good shots has nothing to do with the gear. And if you don't believe me, go watch the old DigitalRev videos of "Pro Photographer Cheap Camera Challenge" where world-class pro-togs are given the crappiest of crappy cameras and still get fantastic shots with them.
I wouldn't really call those photos fantastic though, it's more of a would be fantastic if they would have been taken with a decent camera. Noone likes chroma noise, lack of dynamic range and jpeg artifacts. Not saying it isn't possible to take great pics with cheap gear, but they stretched it too far.
This is the most hilarious rubbish that everyone regurgitates, just like cattle regurgitate their food. You are limited by your gear 100% once you've maxed out the technical capabilities of your current setup and are no longer able to get the artistic effect you desire with the available gear. Gear matters. For the newbie, no it doesn't matter. For someone who knows how bokeh, aperture, white balance, metering modes, focus modes, shutter speed, exposure compensation, ISO, etc. work, yes gear will handicap you like hell in certain situations and when attempting to produce certain visual effects and looks/feelings.
Michael Pawlik you made a lot of valid points, but saying "hilarious rubbish" is on some pretentious bullshit 😂 I agree with you though, gear can definitely limit what you can do. I just took their point to be towards aspiring photogs who might feel like they can't get good shots without spending the most money. Also that if you have a strong foundational understanding of light/shadow (and other photo basics) + your camera's abilities, you can find solutions to create good images
Cameras, guitars, racing bicycles, etc entire industries made because People, mainly hobbyists. want to be better, they want an edge, a magic wand if you will. this is human nature and they pay a premium for the perceived advantage when in fact, it would be better to get better with what you have. learn your craft..but people dont like work and dedication. we point and click, tap n go.
Amazing!! Im from Portugal, here i see a lot of this problem, when i take a good photo everyone says to me " woooow you must have a great and expensive camera ", but photography comes from the heart, the soul. I hate when people say that to me. Keep going!
They were top of the line at one point and it's not like the photos they shot have magically turned "bad." They're great cameras. There is much better stuff now but the point is everyone should learn to be a good photographer first. Like buying the most expensive running shoes - yeah, they help, but learn to run and get in shape first!
One BIG thing that actually made this a closer match than it should be, is the light. Handing the guy that doesn't know much about shooting that perfect window light made him look like a MUCH bigger hero.
Agreed that camera doesn't matter, but gear does, such as lenses and lighting equipment or modifiers. You can always use available light if not sure how to use lighting equipment. The right equipment for the job does matter. But for the beginner photographer or casual photographer the main point should be on getting better as a photographer and not focus so much on gear GAS. The gear will elevate the work, but you need good composition first. my two cents....
I bought a t3i a couple of years ago and I've gotten beautiful shots from it just using a nifty Fifty, a 24mm pancake and a rented 16-35mm. You work with what you have.
I love the concept of this video, but I'm sorry to say that your gear does matter (truth hurts, I know). Mostly, it depends on what you'll be shooting. In this video, the model was in a well lit room (generally favourable conditions), but what if you were in a poorly lit room and you had to bump that ISO up a bit? Or what if you had to take an action shot of the model jumping in a dimly lit room? Truth is, your skill is more important than your gear but your gear definitely matters.
Did you read our description? We are obviously not turning our high end cameras for a couple of Rebels, but that's not the point of this video. We want people to understand having a voice and solid foundation matter the most in photography. I'd rather look at a picture that moves me to tears that was shot kn a throwaway camera than a super boring picture of whatever shot on the nicest camera. Hope that makes sense. We tried really hard to make that point. Thanks for watching!
Even in such conditions, taking away constraints by using more expensive gear in general does not invite creativity or makes you go above your original intentions. So I'd say gear matters more when you have a clear cut idea of what you want and in exactly replicating that mental image. Not to do away with your argument, just adding to it.
Yup, I do agree with what you're saying Fabian. You can't have the perfect gear for a particular type of photography, you can only have gear that reduces all difficulties associated with that type of photography. You may also use your skill to further reduce all difficulties so even if your gear isn't that good, your skill can make things even. Why I chose to write my comment is because many beginner photographers (unlike us) tend to take the "Your gear does not matter" statement literally and that's wrong cos, to be honest, a t3i with an 18-55mm can only yield so much
Mango Street Well, now that you mention it, I apologise for such a comment. I just wanted to get some things clear, that's all. It is the mind that matters not the camera.
This was a great video! I read some of the comments saying it wasn't because " gear DOES matter" but I agree with mango street if your story telling isn't great then your photos won't have any meaning. I don't think mango street was trying to naïvely say that we should disregard gear all together but rather to take a look at why we do photography and realize an important aspect that should come with the craft and that's storytelling. These are just some of my thoughts and perhaps some of you won't agree with my opinion but that's what I got from watching this video :) good job again Mango street!!
Cristian Martinez This is very true but I feel that this video mainly applies to amateur (non-working) photographers cos gear does matter when you're in the field. Nice point though!
Thank you so much for making this. I see so many video that are like, whole film shot with iPhone, and sure it was but they used thousands of dollars worth of gimbals lighting and lenses, which defeats the purpose. This is truly a budget setup without any really expensive equipment so it actually shows you that you don’t need a bunch of shit to be good at photography and take good pictures. Keep making great content
People pay too much attention to gear - true, Skills > gear - true, You can take good photos with cheap cameras - in many conditions true, Gear doesn't matter - totally not true! This sentence is really too broadly stated usually by pro photographers who got access to top photographic gear. Cheap or no necessary gear will often limit your ideas to poor quality effects. I mean when you start getting paid for photos or videos, gear really matters to deliver fine pictures and it often make your job really easier.
I really liked the look and emotion of the photos that the guy with the less experience took. For sure, the composition of both of your photos where way more on point. but especially the kinda taken out of place way of the photos made me feel something special. For example the one with the record player. it just had a really special message to me. he's really really talanted!
I’ve seen a lot of RUclips vids using ‘amateur’ cameras and they have some really good work & aesthetics. Gear can make a lot of things better - but it’s true that if you have foundations to work on then you can still come up with incredible work
This is such a sick concept!! When I had my Sony a5000, I took some AMAZING photos!! I'm glad that you guys brought it to everyone's attention that it's all about the creativity and fundamental skills and not the gear
im going to write this in all caps okay THANK YOU FOR MAKING A VIDEO LIKE THIS!!! YOU DONT NEED A MARK CAMERA TO GET AMAZING SHOTS FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAYS IT
Honestly, SO thankful for this video (and that I found your channel). I've been exploring photography on my own for quite awhile now and just barely had enough money to empty my bank account for a Canon Rebel T6i. I'm not new to photography, so this wasn't my body of choice, but all I could afford and I wasn't going to hold out till I had more money any longer - because every time that I said "tomorrow" was a day spent not shooting. I shoot a lot of portraits and concerts and I often get looks when I pull out my Rebel with its standard 18-55 kit lens, but I think the end results speak for themselves. People are blown away when they realize the images I took came from such cheap gear, but I honestly take it as more incentive to get creative with the shots I take and how I edit them. Sometimes broke people can have talent too I guess hahahaha
Đức Nguyễn Minh yea I was thinking the same thing. Even tho I understand where they are trying to go with the video. You could never pull off those type of shots with a true kit lens.
I think they shoot most of their stuff with the 35L. It's nice for getting up close and personal with your subjects in environmental portraits. It forces you to think more about how to position and frame them, but I think it's possible to get a better look than with the trad 85mm portrait lens.
Thanks guys for the video. Really nice pictures. I am a T3i owner and I'd like to say that gear depends on what you want to achieve. With the 18-55mm. F3.5 - 5.6 kit lens, you won't be able to get shallow depth of field when shooting a head & shoulder portrait outdoors. I use instead my “NIFTY FIFTY” 50mm f1.8 which give me more pleasant effect. The t3i is not the best option for shooting natural light indoors, especially with the kit lens on. I instead shoot indoors portrait ,attaching to my T3i my Sigma 17-55mm F2.8 and lighting the scene with two or three speedlights with different modifiers. To me it's not about the camera but the complementary gear. Off-camera flash, lens choice, lighting techniques, and lots of practice will make your photography get better. I love my T3i and i use it every day.
Coming from film: I honestly don't see how this age-old issue would get so much thumbs downs. It's clear fact, unless you're a gear porn addict, spending money on useless stuff you watched a review of that'll make you look good on set but probably never add any production value or rake in any cash for you. It's just gear if you don't have a real, planned purpose for shooting with it. Funny thing is, these companies make a lot of money off your ignorant asses just keeping you in the megapixel race year after year and I ask, where were some of these high-end gadgets when movies like THE MATRIX trilogies were shot, edited and distributed? And that movie is still a "Rabbi" in these recent times, many of the effects from today's movies were spun off it. But the equipment used on the set of the Matrix movies would probably be written off by some fanboy as archaic because he's been bamboozled by useless literature of technical jargons half of which he doesn't understand anyways in practical terms. But "ooooh, shiny plastic look so gooood, gimmie waan!" I'm tired of people talking about gear when their output isn't reasonably better. Simon Cade's the man! And I just needed to let off steam! Thanks Mango Street, I just subbed!
Let me say this. You shouldn't buy gear thinking it will make you better, the reason to buy new stuff is when you can't shoot what you want due to limitations (ie you want to get into bird photography but have no telephoto lens or you want to shoot astro or macro but don't have a fast aperture or macro lens respectively). But you really don't need the highest end lens for a lot of that stuff. I use a lot of Sigma, Tamron and Samyang lenses and get great results.
WHAT FUCKING SONG IS THIS THIS IS SO FUCKING RELAXING, MASTERPIECE OF A VIDEO YOU'VE EARNED A SUB IN ME WHAT FUCKING SONG IS THIS I LOVE THIS VIDEO WHAT THE FUCK IS THE SONG
Thank you for this video! I bought a used rebel today--- and am so excited to LEARNabout the foundations of photography and getting my foot in the door! this inspires me
Where is the comparison, the same or similar photos... You talk about cameras but, end up testing the talent and not the gears... The cameras and lens also matters!!!
THANK YOU for this video. I'm the only photographer in my group of friends, and when someone wants to buy a camera they always ask me what I use and recommend. I always say "buy the one that fits how much you are going to use it", since it's so unnecessary to buy a complicated, expensive camera with lots of lenses if you're not going to use the gear. Next time someone asks, I'll send them this video.
thank you so much guys. I am just going out there and going to enjoy my camera, and just get lost in the enjoyment of photography rather than worrying my gear. :)
If you don't have anything nice to say, watch Casey Neistat's Guide to Filmmaking at 1:15 and comment it on his video instead.
Hahahahahahahahahah
video shot by canon 600d
that's very true, i use a Olympus e-420 from 2008, it's awsome for the price that i got it and the age it has, well yeah it has only 10 megapixels but for Instagram pictures thats more than enough. i used that camera now from 3 months and like said it's brilliant.
I have a question: what do you think about 1) JR Alli 2) Yuri Palma To me, best young filmmakers and future superstars ( I consider Brandon Li and Ben Brown top class)
Mango Street Bollocks
So it's not about the camera, it's about the hood.
I'm pinning this.
I agree with this video wholeheartedly!!
jajaja too funny! dig it!
Love the message guys! Very good points!
My first thought to! 😄
This might be weird... but.. could you make a tutorial for photographing unattractive/not photogenic people.
I feel like it'd be hard to volunteer models for this.
maybe a tutorial on how to direct model on a photoshoot.
I know. Maybe if you announce it on your social media just like that someone will volunteer. Many unattractive (like myself) would love some beautiful photos since we really struggle to find at least a decent one.
When I say unattractive I mostly think about asymmetrical faces that usually are harder to photograph.
HA. Use me.
Attractiveness is relative, maybe photograph a model who rarely enjoys how they look in photos and work with them to get an image that they like.
In all fairness, I think Justin has a lot of potential!
Same!
He did some amazing indie-album cover looking shots, just some exposure lessons and he's gold.
That picture with the turntable was pretty good from his set.
Even they said that Justin turned out better than a beginner photographer than they expected.
Jeremy O. I like his photos even more
Actually a few shots there Justin had some good stuff!
What talent do you use ?
TO Double P, DO Double G TOPPDOGG!!!!
Stan!
Stan ToppDogg asking the right questions
why are you so mad?
Shoot in burst. Hold your shutter. Shoot all angles. Fill your memory to the brim. Pick the photos you like. Lightroom. Done.
What I like the most about this channel is that you always make a statement with as little words as possible. Time is money, and no time is wasted here! 👏
Justin's photo's were pretty standard instagram/vsco level! Which is to say _pretty good_ actually! He was a great sport : )
_Your_ photo's were *_lit_* & motivating to us to really expand & reimagine our idea's on how to shoot a single subject, Loved this (as always), thanks a ton!
Awesome! And yes, totally. Justin was the greatest sport and he did a great job!
them: buy what you can afford
me: *can't afford anything*
So you can buy anything, you are the king mango 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can't even afford a new lens😂
Pawn shop
Start with film then? You can a disposable one for 5 dollars or a mamiya 6 for $60
My canon ae1, lens w lens cap, and strap costed $190 in total
Enough praise regarding the content of your video in the comments, just wanted to add that I really liked the cinematographic side of it too. So relaxing, I was actually a tad sad to see it being done so quickly. The music, way of filming and the model/scene just fit. Not sure how into it you guys are compared to photography, but thoroughly enjoyed it as a nice 'side dish' as it were.
Me too, really relaxing
Fabian totally agree. I watch this video every single day at least once. Love the music, the compositions, props, and the model. I think the video captures more audience as it is very calming and relaxing as much as educating. In love with the Justin's vinyl composition. Please more videos with Justin and the same model. Good job guys.
That is so true, in my photography class everyone bought a professional camera. I didnt have the money so i took our family camera, my photos were always the best, you can do amazing things with a clear concept and the correct light
Wow you sound super arrogant...my photos were always the best...you do realize that art is subjective right?
Toddy Surcharge 😹😹😹
Gear isn't only about your camera. Of course with an expensive location, a great white background and some nice things to show and a lot of light, you can do some beautiful picutures with both cameras.
The importance of gear is increased exponentially when you're shooting video and specially if you're not in ideal lighting situations
EidanMA work within your limits, figure out how to make dope stuff out of the gear in your possession.
finally a video that make me feel good about my gear :')
I agree. It's almost exactly the gear I have right now. The 40mm is the only lens I've bought outside the kit (though I am planning on another one soon).
Don't let your gear get you down.
Karthikeya GS This video couldn't be anymore true I use a canon T6i with 50mm 1.8. Feel satisfied with my work. So many people forget the crucial post processing after shooting.
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Paul Paul hey checked out your website. There are some typographical errors in your FAQ section. Just to let you know so you can correct. Keep up the good work👍
I also think most people forget to properly learn the photographic skills, the simple use of their camera, composition, lighting, develop creativity etc...
Great point you have made and very well done! I just saw a photo that an amateur photographer posted in a very popular Facebook group which is all about portrait photography. The group's purpose is to learn by having your photo critiqued by the well-known photographer/instructor who owns the page and started the group, and from other group members. Looking at the photo there is no way anyone could tell what camera was used. The photo was not exposed well and not even in focus. It was amateurish, which is fine. The purpose of the group is to learn and grow in skill. What blew me away was when I looked at what equipment the guy used: Canon 5Ds R ($3,899 body only) AND Canon 70-200MM 2.8 L ($2,099). PERFECT EXAMPLE of everything you just proved in your video. Basic skills matter far more than equipment.
I like to think of gear as an insurance policy. Higher end gear is there to provide you security when you're faced with less than ideal shooting conditions to ensure you're still able to get a clear image. But at the end of the day it's up to the photographer to use his skill set and creativity to capture an image that is worth looking at.
Well said!
Nicely said! Having cheaper gear just means you have to come up with creative solutions to problems sometimes :)
exactly, better gears give versatility and more room for creativity. But that doesn't say cheap gears can't tell a good story. Keep shooting, guys, even when you have yet to afford the better gears(me neither). =)
im no expert. but when my gear can nly take me so far in my creativity with the photos. my post creations speaks volume.
The only complaint I have with my old T5i is its autofocus. But when it does get the "spur of the moment" shots in focus, it captures it incredibly well.
You all are always so wholesome, I have learned so much from you all. I look forward to every Monday because that means Mango Street releases a new video.
This video is definitely one of my favorites, so glad you're letting photographers know that expensive gear isn't necessarily what makes you professional but what you create. Thank you for this video.
Thanks, Kevin!
So far the best video you made guys . Millions around the world are worrying about their gear, by saying its too old and blah blah .
If gear doesnt matter i'll trade my canon t6i for your 5d mark iv
Read that description, boss.
Big oof
Lol
I very much love how short but informative your videos are, they don't drag on and they're easy to watch.
I would love to see more videos kind of like this one where we get to watch you shooting, to get an idea of the creative/thought process behind taking great photos
It was fun to make and watch ourselves shoot afterwards. We'll do more!
Leyla Akhadov I agree, there was something really relaxing about watching it, and along with the music it was almost remedial.
These are after post processing though right? What do the photos look like before editing
Chretien li Right!!!!
Chretien li that actualy the point i mean you dont have to buy 5 thousand bucks camera to got a great result
How do they edit the photos to look so luscious is something I badly want to learn.
Joshua Oliver light room mates its works
Joshua Oliver it’s simply lightroom
It’s very simple and you can do too much with it
Such an important message! Ideas and creativity > Gear
Yes 🙏🏻
Yes ideas and creativity I agree but try to shoot with Canon 1100D or some other camera in the cheapest class. I feel like the rebel T3i they used is still a stable camera idk.
The point of this video is to show you that your knowledge of photography is just as useful if not more, than gear. This video was to encourage many who can't afford the gear and have to work with what they have. This video was an example for all of those who do have the, "gear is the only thing that matters" mindset. Gear can be a big component but it is not the staple of a good photographer.
I loved the video, thank you :)
Well put, Kennedy!
Mango Street i can't believe you guys replied!! i love you guys so much your videos are inspiring and helpful! oh my good lord i'm in disbelief, thank you thank you thank you!! 💓💓
would you do more videos about phone photography? and maybe a video ranting our instagram feed and compositions?
yaaas!
Pika HyunAh Peter Mckinnon has one. Go check it out.
Pika HyunAh Peter Mckinnon has one. Go check it out.
Heyy , I got some great footage from paris done with my phone . check it out
Gabriel Tan i have already watched them but i would love to see more if possible
This is literally my favorite photography-related video ever in existence.. very inspiring. Keep up the good work, guys! :D
I just commented the same thing 2 mins ago just to scroll down and see your comment.
that model is gorgeous! Great video as always! Daniel`s photos are incredible, I think they are stunning!
She is and was so easy to work with. And thanks! I'm obsessed with the one he took of her looking in the mirror! -Rachel
hi do you know where did Destiny get her outfit for this video by any chance?
We picked it out for her at Forever 21.
Could probably get that coat from a vending machine at a theme park lol
I thought you said that you picked her out at Forever 21.
I love these short, sweet and to-the-point video tutorials, they really help make me think before shooting, or even planning a session for that matter! Glad I came across this channel :)
God, you guys are amazing. I love the styling you guys use and the overall genuine vibe on every occasion. always inspiring.
really enjoyed watching a photoshoot with these people. cool to see how they work
thank you for giving shot settings, i think it's important because coming from a professional or veterans of photography it helps give a better perspective in comparison to what some of us lesser skilled photog's are trying to accomplish.
Lovely model and some great photos!
The thing that stood out to me most is the importance of good lighting. Everyone's shots looked great and fairly similar thanks to that great light coming in from those big windows. Not to mentioned the talented model as well. Camera adores her.
Thought the spirit of the exercise was great! Loved Justin's shots and Mango's. The model did seem really easy to work with, is this a norm? I'd love to see Justin come back for cameo appearances.
He was in another tutorial of our's but I agree! He's great and we always want him around more. The model was also lovely and easy to work with. That is totally our experience every time we pay a model fairly ☺️
Mango Street It would be really cool to see your process of hiring a model, interview and evaluation process.
I was looking through my recommended feed and saw this video and when I watched it I was HOOKED. This channel and Peter McKinnon's are my absolute favorite! Great Video!
Thank you! I was worried about the camera so much that I forgot the basic. Sometimes I get so caught up in new tech that's seems like it coming out non-stop that if sometimes I feel like I am behind. But remember the basic and develop my skills as an artist. Thanks Mango street :)
Loved this. I'm a filmmaker/cinematographer, not a photographer, but the same issue always comes up. Someone who knows how to shape light and tell a story with their composition, camera movement and editing can use a lower-end camera and kit lens to produce better video content than someone with thousands of dollars in gear but no understanding of how or why to use any of it.
I recently started developing interests in photography and your channel has been really helpful. Thanks for all these amazing videos!
This was right on time for me. I definitely needed it. I only have a T3i, but recently bought a 50mm f1.4. I have to admit, I've gotten so hung up on having the "right" gear than perfecting my creativity and the art of telling the story. This video helps boost my confidence to go shoot with my little T3i. Thank you for posting this. It was a breath of fresh air.
"Shot with cheap cameras"
*looks at my Canon Rebel T3i that I thought was still pretty expensive cause I'm broke and sheds a tear*
Lighting will be your absolute bestest friend with a cheaper camera
Brilliant video that proved the point perfectly. Even though you pointed out Justin wasn't a total novice he still did exceptionally well, but again this was down to his natural talent rather than the camera. Great studio with oodles of natural light.
A great way to compare cameras to photographers when someone assumes the camera took the great pic and not the person behind it is this: When you read a great story or book, do you ask the writer what kind of computer or typewriter they used to write it?
Ryan Anthony Genius.
Smart
3 years later...great point bro
Guys you rock! I'm so glad you brought this up. I am so surprised when people have barely started with their photography, have a dslr they don't know that well but want to jump into getting a top of the range full frame. You can still do so much with a cropped sensor too!
while it is true that gear does not matter , i would say that with every situation comes the importance of having the proper gear. not everyone can afford a 5d mk4, nor a d500. chances are that getting a certain job that requires a certain type of camera is paramount. but in this video, it just shows the proof that with a skilled mind, one can achieve even the most awesome of images with even the most basic setup.
It really just proves that identical settings on two cameras in favorable conditions provide the same result.
I have a canon t3i and I honestly love it! I've had it for 4-5 years (I got it when the t3i was still fairly new) and it's still working wonderfully. And I love that you guys made it a point to emphasize that higher quality gear doesn't necessarily mean high quality pictures. It's really all about purpose and knowing how to use any camera to its fullest potential.
Cameras you're calling cheap are actually not cheap.
Yashank Goswami bingo. The T3i should’ve been swapped with a T3
inside the photography world, they are
@@kaaaaaaaaaaaali but people watching this video are def from outside
@@swaminnpublic well but that is actually the point of the video. You can clearly see that the guy with a pro camera didn´t took the pictures that the couple with the cheapest one lmao
And of course the final touch that made those photos look really great - some artful editing.
People assume that buying a DSLR makes them a photographer. I know plenty of people who have done it. They go out and buy a big, expensive camera with a million features they can't use, and spend large sums of money on good lenses that sit and collect dust. People assume it's a foot in the door of the industry. Just because you can buy the same camera as or because the camera was super expensive, they claim they're photographers. But I've never heard of a single person going out and buying a hammer and drill, and calling themselves a builder. I've never seen anyone pick up a soldering iron and claim to be a robotics engineer. Being a photographer and getting good shots has nothing to do with the gear. And if you don't believe me, go watch the old DigitalRev videos of "Pro Photographer Cheap Camera Challenge" where world-class pro-togs are given the crappiest of crappy cameras and still get fantastic shots with them.
I wouldn't really call those photos fantastic though, it's more of a would be fantastic if they would have been taken with a decent camera.
Noone likes chroma noise, lack of dynamic range and jpeg artifacts.
Not saying it isn't possible to take great pics with cheap gear, but they stretched it too far.
i will test this :D
This is the most hilarious rubbish that everyone regurgitates, just like cattle regurgitate their food.
You are limited by your gear 100% once you've maxed out the technical capabilities of your current setup and are no longer able to get the artistic effect you desire with the available gear.
Gear matters. For the newbie, no it doesn't matter. For someone who knows how bokeh, aperture, white balance, metering modes, focus modes, shutter speed, exposure compensation, ISO, etc. work, yes gear will handicap you like hell in certain situations and when attempting to produce certain visual effects and looks/feelings.
Michael Pawlik you made a lot of valid points, but saying "hilarious rubbish" is on some pretentious bullshit 😂 I agree with you though, gear can definitely limit what you can do. I just took their point to be towards aspiring photogs who might feel like they can't get good shots without spending the most money. Also that if you have a strong foundational understanding of light/shadow (and other photo basics) + your camera's abilities, you can find solutions to create good images
Cameras, guitars, racing bicycles, etc entire industries made because People, mainly hobbyists. want to be better, they want an edge, a magic wand if you will. this is human nature and they pay a premium for the perceived advantage when in fact, it would be better to get better with what you have. learn your craft..but people dont like work and dedication. we point and click, tap n go.
I F'N LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!! YOU GUYS BRING SO MUCH AWESOMENESS TO THE TABLE ITS OUTSTANDINGLY INSPIRING!!!
It's about your creativity not your gear
Yahir. Films unless you have the Nikion Coolpix L330 (My current camera) there’s no shutter speed adjust
@@matayagregg4747 I mean you can still do other stuff shutter speed is pretty important but find other ways to shoot make your own different aesthetic
Exactly
Amazing!!
Im from Portugal, here i see a lot of this problem, when i take a good photo everyone says to me " woooow you must have a great and expensive camera ", but photography comes from the heart, the soul. I hate when people say that to me. Keep going!
Just discovered your channel. You guys are awesome. And just wow, what a beautiful shoot. Never thought a rebel could do magic like that.
They were top of the line at one point and it's not like the photos they shot have magically turned "bad." They're great cameras. There is much better stuff now but the point is everyone should learn to be a good photographer first. Like buying the most expensive running shoes - yeah, they help, but learn to run and get in shape first!
That picture with the mirror reflecting the model's face is amazing!!!!! im obsessed
I actually love the shots at 1:11 and 1:26
One BIG thing that actually made this a closer match than it should be, is the light. Handing the guy that doesn't know much about shooting that perfect window light made him look like a MUCH bigger hero.
(Cheap Camera Squad) where you at?! 💙✊
Romrich Olipas here
PixleBuddy aye! welcome bro! 👐
Romrich Olipas I can't afford anything better than a Canon t2i which is what I use for my photography on instagram @imagine_these_worlds
PixleBuddy oh wow bro!!! you are so amazing!!! You are so talented! 👏 Lets create amazing photos team Cheap Cameras 😊
Romrich Olipas haha thanks😂
its not about the camera, its about the creative mind of the photographer in complicity with the model, thats your success formula.
That's an amazing model!!
Really love your videos, shorts, full of value information and also, full of soul. Thanks guys!
Agreed that camera doesn't matter, but gear does, such as lenses and lighting equipment or modifiers. You can always use available light if not sure how to use lighting equipment. The right equipment for the job does matter. But for the beginner photographer or casual photographer the main point should be on getting better as a photographer and not focus so much on gear GAS. The gear will elevate the work, but you need good composition first. my two cents....
I bought a t3i a couple of years ago and I've gotten beautiful shots from it just using a nifty Fifty, a 24mm pancake and a rented 16-35mm. You work with what you have.
I love the concept of this video, but I'm sorry to say that your gear does matter (truth hurts, I know). Mostly, it depends on what you'll be shooting. In this video, the model was in a well lit room (generally favourable conditions), but what if you were in a poorly lit room and you had to bump that ISO up a bit? Or what if you had to take an action shot of the model jumping in a dimly lit room? Truth is, your skill is more important than your gear but your gear definitely matters.
Did you read our description? We are obviously not turning our high end cameras for a couple of Rebels, but that's not the point of this video. We want people to understand having a voice and solid foundation matter the most in photography. I'd rather look at a picture that moves me to tears that was shot kn a throwaway camera than a super boring picture of whatever shot on the nicest camera. Hope that makes sense. We tried really hard to make that point. Thanks for watching!
Even in such conditions, taking away constraints by using more expensive gear in general does not invite creativity or makes you go above your original intentions. So I'd say gear matters more when you have a clear cut idea of what you want and in exactly replicating that mental image.
Not to do away with your argument, just adding to it.
Yup, I do agree with what you're saying Fabian. You can't have the perfect gear for a particular type of photography, you can only have gear that reduces all difficulties associated with that type of photography. You may also use your skill to further reduce all difficulties so even if your gear isn't that good, your skill can make things even. Why I chose to write my comment is because many beginner photographers (unlike us) tend to take the "Your gear does not matter" statement literally and that's wrong cos, to be honest, a t3i with an 18-55mm can only yield so much
Mango Street Well, now that you mention it, I apologise for such a comment. I just wanted to get some things clear, that's all. It is the mind that matters not the camera.
People don't read a description. You should have added at the end part of the video and be specific of what kind of shoot why gear does not matter.
I am so in love with you, guys! Every video keeps the fire inside me to become a photographer burning! Thanks you so much!
This was a great video! I read some of the comments saying it wasn't because " gear DOES matter" but I agree with mango street if your story telling isn't great then your photos won't have any meaning. I don't think mango street was trying to naïvely say that we should disregard gear all together but rather to take a look at why we do photography and realize an important aspect that should come with the craft and that's storytelling. These are just some of my thoughts and perhaps some of you won't agree with my opinion but that's what I got from watching this video :) good job again Mango street!!
Cristian Martinez This is very true but I feel that this video mainly applies to amateur (non-working) photographers cos gear does matter when you're in the field. Nice point though!
Thank you so much for making this. I see so many video that are like, whole film shot with iPhone, and sure it was but they used thousands of dollars worth of gimbals lighting and lenses, which defeats the purpose. This is truly a budget setup without any really expensive equipment so it actually shows you that you don’t need a bunch of shit to be good at photography and take good pictures. Keep making great content
People pay too much attention to gear - true,
Skills > gear - true,
You can take good photos with cheap cameras - in many conditions true,
Gear doesn't matter - totally not true! This sentence is really too broadly stated usually by pro photographers who got access to top photographic gear. Cheap or no necessary gear will often limit your ideas to poor quality effects. I mean when you start getting paid for photos or videos, gear really matters to deliver fine pictures and it often make your job really easier.
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I love the video. It was eye opening. It made me realize that you don’t have to use a expensive camera to get really amazing pictures.
Dude, that model was beautiful. The type of beautiful you want to admire and watch them in their element. she's mesmerizing, a wonder.
Derpy Master012 that is one of the nicest things anyone has ever said in reference to me, thank you so much ❤
I really liked the look and emotion of the photos that the guy with the less experience took. For sure, the composition of both of your photos where way more on point. but especially the kinda taken out of place way of the photos made me feel something special. For example the one with the record player. it just had a really special message to me. he's really really talanted!
Simon Cade will like this video 99999999999 times
As long as it's not an even 12,000,000,000 because that's technically unliking it.
rageuploads This comment made my day 😂 Simon Cade is married to two t3i cameras
Depends on how many bits in the integer RUclips use to count likes. :-)
Dead 😂
DSLRguide
I’ve seen a lot of RUclips vids using ‘amateur’ cameras and they have some really good work & aesthetics. Gear can make a lot of things better - but it’s true that if you have foundations to work on then you can still come up with incredible work
What camera did u use to shoot this video?😂
The only camera we had left to spare -- our 5D Mark III.
The only one that you guys have left to spare is the one that I'll never be able to afford... Dang it.
Did you learn nothing from this video? xD
Mango Juice Man just wait a few years if you don't care about the Mark4 and the Mark3 will be available cheap on ebay just like the Mark1
Hahaha
This is such a sick concept!! When I had my Sony a5000, I took some AMAZING photos!! I'm glad that you guys brought it to everyone's attention that it's all about the creativity and fundamental skills and not the gear
You guys are fantastic.
No you!
NOOOOOOO YOU!!!!
nooooooooooo i am
im going to write this in all caps okay THANK YOU FOR MAKING A VIDEO LIKE THIS!!! YOU DONT NEED A MARK CAMERA TO GET AMAZING SHOTS FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAYS IT
Rachel as a Photographer:
"Wathever...Just get weird, ok?"
So me xD
Honestly, SO thankful for this video (and that I found your channel). I've been exploring photography on my own for quite awhile now and just barely had enough money to empty my bank account for a Canon Rebel T6i. I'm not new to photography, so this wasn't my body of choice, but all I could afford and I wasn't going to hold out till I had more money any longer - because every time that I said "tomorrow" was a day spent not shooting. I shoot a lot of portraits and concerts and I often get looks when I pull out my Rebel with its standard 18-55 kit lens, but I think the end results speak for themselves. People are blown away when they realize the images I took came from such cheap gear, but I honestly take it as more incentive to get creative with the shots I take and how I edit them. Sometimes broke people can have talent too I guess hahahaha
Come on guys let's give some credit to that beautiful model too
AMAZING STUFF! BRIEF, STRAIGHT TO THE POINT AND HELPFUL AF! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
Does anyone know the song name?
"Ha Na's Lullaby" by Andrew Kozar
Thank you!
This is such a great idea. I often get asked what gear do I use (Sony/Minolta) and/or advice on what cameras they should buy.
"can you put your hood up"
the model- "but I don't like the hood"
"WELL DO IT"
That was a beautiful shoot and super inspiring. Just what I needed to end my day.
Hmmm 1:50 the kit lens can open to f2.8?!
That was probably the 40mm pancake lens.
you think ?
Đức Nguyễn Minh yea I was thinking the same thing. Even tho I understand where they are trying to go with the video. You could never pull off those type of shots with a true kit lens.
Not sure if the video was fair though. 35mm is a little wide for portraits on the mark IV =oP. But seriously though, i loved the video for real!!!!
I think they shoot most of their stuff with the 35L. It's nice for getting up close and personal with your subjects in environmental portraits. It forces you to think more about how to position and frame them, but I think it's possible to get a better look than with the trad 85mm portrait lens.
The subtle humour in your videos is A+
"The best camera is the one that's with you." - Chase Jarvis
i liked seeing the process of how you guys shoot. could you guys do more like this and show how you actually go about directing your model ect. ? ❤️
I've been following Justin on Tinder for a looooong time now
Stalker, where are your eggs gone ?
if you don't know then I can't tell you
You said you don't have them 😂😂😂
Thanks guys for the video.
Really nice pictures.
I am a T3i owner and I'd like to say that gear depends on what you want to achieve.
With the 18-55mm. F3.5 - 5.6 kit lens, you won't be able to get shallow depth of field when shooting a head & shoulder portrait outdoors. I use instead my “NIFTY FIFTY” 50mm f1.8 which give me more pleasant effect.
The t3i is not the best option for shooting natural light indoors, especially with the kit lens on. I instead shoot indoors portrait ,attaching to my T3i my Sigma 17-55mm F2.8 and lighting the scene with two or three speedlights with different modifiers.
To me it's not about the camera but the complementary gear.
Off-camera flash, lens choice, lighting techniques, and lots of practice will make your photography get better. I love my T3i and i use it every day.
Coming from film: I honestly don't see how this age-old issue would get so much thumbs downs. It's clear fact, unless you're a gear porn addict, spending money on useless stuff you watched a review of that'll make you look good on set but probably never add any production value or rake in any cash for you. It's just gear if you don't have a real, planned purpose for shooting with it. Funny thing is, these companies make a lot of money off your ignorant asses just keeping you in the megapixel race year after year and I ask, where were some of these high-end gadgets when movies like THE MATRIX trilogies were shot, edited and distributed? And that movie is still a "Rabbi" in these recent times, many of the effects from today's movies were spun off it. But the equipment used on the set of the Matrix movies would probably be written off by some fanboy as archaic because he's been bamboozled by useless literature of technical jargons half of which he doesn't understand anyways in practical terms. But "ooooh, shiny plastic look so gooood, gimmie waan!" I'm tired of people talking about gear when their output isn't reasonably better. Simon Cade's the man! And I just needed to let off steam! Thanks Mango Street, I just subbed!
Let me say this. You shouldn't buy gear thinking it will make you better, the reason to buy new stuff is when you can't shoot what you want due to limitations (ie you want to get into bird photography but have no telephoto lens or you want to shoot astro or macro but don't have a fast aperture or macro lens respectively). But you really don't need the highest end lens for a lot of that stuff. I use a lot of Sigma, Tamron and Samyang lenses and get great results.
This is a great video for people like me who are just starting out and can’t afford expensive gear. Very motivational thank you!
WHAT FUCKING SONG IS THIS THIS IS SO FUCKING RELAXING, MASTERPIECE OF A VIDEO YOU'VE EARNED A SUB IN ME WHAT FUCKING SONG IS THIS I LOVE THIS VIDEO WHAT THE FUCK IS THE SONG
I put the title of it in the video description and I'm too far down now to scroll up and copy/paste it for you!
"Ha Na's Lullaby" by Andrew Kozar
Thank you for this video! I bought a used rebel today--- and am so excited to LEARNabout the foundations of photography and getting my foot in the door! this inspires me
Where is the comparison, the same or similar photos...
You talk about cameras but, end up testing the talent and not the gears...
The cameras and lens also matters!!!
Your first paragraph is literally our point. Honing your skills and using the gear you have in front of you is the most important thing to us.
THANK YOU for this video. I'm the only photographer in my group of friends, and when someone wants to buy a camera they always ask me what I use and recommend. I always say "buy the one that fits how much you are going to use it", since it's so unnecessary to buy a complicated, expensive camera with lots of lenses if you're not going to use the gear. Next time someone asks, I'll send them this video.
but....how will random people on the street know that im a pro if i dont have the best??? /s
LOL thanks for addressing it at the end, I was like "wow some of Justin's photos were actually great"
so what there saying is if you suck....then you suck...
Sky A. Cramer C'est la vie, mon frère 😂
What we are saying is an expensive camera doesn't make a good photographer.
Mango Street no, if you suck at photography then it doesn't matter what camera you use
I didn't disagree with you Sky A. Cramer
If you suck at photography, what you need is practice and learning.
thank you so much guys. I am just going out there and going to enjoy my camera, and just get lost in the enjoyment of photography rather than worrying my gear. :)