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i love how you give me so much New hate towards people, it's honestly a talent waking other people up better ánd more hateful than before. great vid as always p.s. we are rooting for you.
You should’ve talked more about white people and Christians tendency to steal art, and then demonize the original creators, and how trying to convert people to your religion is hard-core weird and gives colonist vibes
You don’t have to relate to music to enjoy it. It’s like if someone said, “I really like Olivia Rodrigo’s music, but I’m in a happy healthy relationship, so I’m going to rewrite ‘good 4 u’ so I can sing it.” I think that adds to the cringe, just how pointless it is??
The idea of rewriting a song about unhealthy relationships is so weird because, we have songs about healthy relationships. That’s approximately 50% of the love/relationship song category
@@borahaeist3215 most secular music? Like what-? I get that you can't listen to rappers or many pop girls... But ya'll still have A LOT MORE. Like don't simmer people like Doja Cat to that Paint the Town Red song or Don't generalize SZA to Kill Bill. They have plenty more songs that don't mention anything religious, but yes many of the songs may involve "sinful acts" but just like what gabi says, skip it. If you want mainstream and popular artists, maybe listen to people like Taylor Swift, Melanie Martinez, Olivia Rodrigo, The Weeknd, plenty of their music can maybe fit into what you like. OR MAYBE LISTEN TO COUNTRY, SOUL, AND JAZZ MUSIC-
Dude I listen to Joji all the fucking time, (hell I’m going to his concert next week) never once have I been in a relationship, much less had a bad breakup, and let’s be fr now that’s the subject matter for like 80% of his music. That doesn’t mean I can’t still get so much enjoyment out of it! I can appreciate the quality of the lyrics, vocals, production, and instrumentation that come together to convey a feeling, even if I personally haven’t felt it before. Not everything needs to be catered to YOUR specific life experience for you to find value in it, in fact, I think it’s important to consume art that conveys all sorts of experiences separate from your own. That’s part of how we create understanding between one another as people, by finding ways to see the world from different perspectives we didn’t consider before.
Soldier, Poet, King is SUCH a BOP of a christian song. They dont need to do all theatrics with other existing songs that dont even worship the devil. Like be so serious.
The Oh Hello’s are VERY christian, but its always shown really poetically. They even recorded a christmas carol, and while I’m very much jewish and have a dislike of Christmas, its so beautiful to listen to
All of The Oh Hellos music is Christan. The siblings who write and sing the music are practising Christians (I think). Their album, Dear Wormwood, is actually about the Screwtape Letters!
Yeah. It got really popular because of DnD and TTRPG, but it is originally a Christian song. I’m not a Christian myself but I can still enjoy it through the lens of it being about a DnD party and their backstories.
When you stated talking at the end about how Christians are taking someone else's music and making it "pure" to fit their worldview, it reminded me of something I couldn't quite put my paw on. But I got it. This reminds me of when artists will take someone's drawing and draw over it without asking, claiming that they "fixed" it
As an Irish person, the Take Me To Church cover really frustrated me. The immense pain and abuse Irish people suffered at the hands of the Catholic Church cannot be understated and its effects are still very much felt today. An ugly scar runs through my country which Hozier shone a light on, only to be “cleansed” but these ignorant assholes
I tried searching up the relationship between the Catholic Church and Irish people that you mentioned, but I'm unable to find anything concrete. Can you educate me on this matter?
@@rerorero6493Aside from the fact that the partition of Northern Ireland and Ireland is related to animosity between Catholics and Protestants (and has a lot to do with the willingness to accept being part of Great Britain), there is also, as an example, the issues of unwed mothers and their infants being abused, on a large scale. There are other issues too, like rape, sexual assault, and children buried in mass graves, but it doesn't take much digging to find this information. It's very surface.
@@rachelk4805 Oh wow, thankyou for your response. I'm going to try and search more about this topic, I just gave a quick 5 minute glance on Google the first time so, gonna try harder now lol. Thanks again!
That's because evangelicals are just ignorant reactionaries; they never knew about any of the meaning of the original song, nor would they ever care. It's just about them feeling slighted and wanting to "fix" the "obscene" song that "dares to reference Church". they're stupid and freak out at the slightest offense, is what I'm saying.
There's something to be said about how songs like Call me by your name were created out of a genuine religious based trauma response. "You say I will go to hell because of being who I am, because of something I can't control, so I just did what you told me to, why are you upset??"He is literally responding to the hate he was taught he deserved from the church, it's not just "he he he, ha ha, lapdancing the devil funny"
Totally! If they did what Gabbie is suggesting and respected the source material to actually critical think on the message they could learn how negative the erasure of the original meaning in these works are.
It's because they literally don't see the message of "I have been harmed by what Christians said". Because these types of Christians don't think they can do anything wrong. "We can't traumatise a young gay black man, because trauma is an act of harm, and why, we were only spreading the word of Jesus! Lil Nas is a sinner, not really a human with a rich inner existence. You're an NPC. I can't harm you, because you're just a walking talking manifestation of sin for me to monologue at to feel better about myself!" It's very much the Victim/Attacker mentality. People often think of themselves as one or the other: the Victim, or the Assailant. Christians like this are obsessed with being persecuted. They cannot cause harm. They can only BE harmed. They are BLIND to the message Lil Nas was saying, because that would destroy their entire moral foundation of the self.
@@CiCodiCadno I'm a gay black male myself and I personally don't mind christain covers. In my opinion unless their inciting violence in their covers they don't bother me. I do agree with some of your points though.
As someone who's mom listens to a lot of Christian radio, Ive been hearing terrible religious versions of secular songs for literal decades, and Ive had NO ONE to talk to about it with. I have felt like I was losing my mind. Thank you for making me feel seen.
I can deny that Christian secular version of songs I like are really bad and I’ve never liked them. And I’m a private Christian as well who loves and listen to a lot of different music from around the world and Take me to church is song that I love to
As someone who has been listening to Christian songs on the radio since childhood, singers back then used to be more passionate about music and God nowadays you can obviously tell which songs are made for profit and which songs are not
FR I USUALLY CAN'T STAND ANY CHRISTIAN OR COUNTRY MUSIC(bc of how unoriginal and nails on a chalkboard over used and boring to the point I'd rather rip my ear canals our then be forced to listen. I mean this from a musical standpoint btw, if you like those genres good on you.) BUT HE MAKES SUCH BANGERS‼‼🔥 Also it was funny asf to watch no one else get what it meant💀 When unholy dropped and they sang and the grammies my church had a 1 hour and 30 minute "sermon"(rant) just about how demonic they are and how kim should die and that kim and sam are going tom the lowest pits of hell WITHOUT EVER KNOWING THE MEANING OF THE SONG😭😭⁉ They just get angry and whine like a baby to mislead others into doing the same before bothering to properly educate themselves..
In my opinion, the covers can actually cause harm. I think the title was “God Must Hate Me,” but there was a song where the singer talked about her insecurities and religious trauma, and Christians got mad over it and made covers. They completely ignored the religious trauma, and instead focused on the title
Yeah. They’re supposed to love everyone, right? Or something like that I don’t know. So why are they dismissing trauma? Trauma that real people have to endure, not your God that can’t even be proven real. Besides he’s already perfect according to most Christians, so he’s not going to get his feelings hurt over a few non-believers.
That’s such a good song tho. I’m still Christian, I believe in God, I don’t go to church currently and am still dealing with the role religion plays in my life. The song resonates with me, I think it’s so insensitive for people to just dismiss it when it has so much meaning
Or another song would be, take me to church, which a lot of Christians thought to be a Christian song as it had the words amen and church in it. After then finding out it's about religious trauma and homophobia from the church immediately turning around and saying it's "blasphemy" despite the fact it's a song about religious trauma and then making covers of it, completely eradicating the purpose of the song
@@LuckythecatZ- Or Genesis - Jesus He Knows Me which is about Televangelists Greed yet somehow Christians believe its a song about Affirming Jesus lol They really just interpret art on a very superficial level.
as a christian, everything you said was on point. i couldn't agree more, but i never had the words to put these thoughts together. i really appreciate you making this video and the way that you expressed your views on this. so awesome.
@@L0cal_Librarianits called a "cover" for a reason people do covers and change the lyrcis everytime but when Christians wanna do their on little cover with their own things its a problem even though everyone is doing it. If you dont like the cover i dont get why its so hard not to listen to it like trust me you can find original songs easier then covers and such like just listen to the original dont listen to something you know your gonna get triggered by.
But when people do covers they don't change the lyrics do they ? I don't like listening to christian covers anyways but my fyp brings it up. @@NT-gi7lb
The Take Me to Church cover really irked me. I always interpreted as a song about religious trauma and it holds meaning for communities harmed by the church, it just feels so disrespectful and ignorant to make a cover like that. I personally also hold it very highly as someone with religious trauma and who is constantly around people who fully believe I deserve to burn for being queer. It’s very frustrating.
I was thinking the same thing. Taking a song that's about a dude getting killed for being gay by a bunch of christians and turning it into some worship bullshit is another level of ignorance
@@Thehouseoffail That’s exactly what I’m talking about, it’s harmed that community in specific and other communities also harmed by the church also are able to relate to it in a place of pain.
SOMEONE SAID IT! As a Christian artist I am often so bored with contemporary Christian music/art. Because it’s so overly focused on pushing the gospel (which isnt a bad thing) that it completely forgets to have any artistic merit (which IS a bad thing!!)
This is so true! Reminds me of an ex friend of mine who at one point seriously considered stop listening to any music that doesn’t praise god like why are you so boring??? Why everything you do has to center Jesus
@@djoctobeat5204 Oh how the mighty have fallen. Religion for most of human history was the most prevalent source of creativity and art across the world. Now an exceptionally vocal minority of Christians don't understand metaphors or subtlety.
the christian remix ppl sound like this: person, looking at a painting: i hate this painting. looking at it makes me mad artist: dont look at it then person: im going to stare at it, then repaint it and angrily talk about the fact that i hate it while showing it to you aggressively
@@youparejo No it’s quite ironic how the theme of OP’s comment is about ignoring things you don’t like instead of taking the time to criticize them. And instead of ignoring their comment when you have an issue with “their paragraph spacing” you took the time to comment on it. This is actually called situational irony. Next time try reading a different comment, hope this helps!
A VERY popular christian song is Soldier, Poet, King by the Oh Hellos. It's not obvious outwardly, but when you think about it, yeah, it is pretty clear what it means. It's a very well loved song that's wriggled its way into multiple trends and fandoms, and I think it's a really nice example of stuff like this done well.
@@ekboobooboobie it was like “hey now you’re an all star, get your game on, get saved” And “the years start comin and they don’t stop comin, so trust in the lord and hell keep your ball rolling” It was so fun not gonna lie
Watching this while thinking of how people turning sailor song by Gigi Perez into "I do believe in God and I believe that he's my saviour" erases meaning. I wish it was more talked about.
What bothers me as a Christian woman with a vast majority of Christian books and movies is how we write atheist and other religions in our media. We typically write them as hateful, angry, depressed people with no chance to redeem themselves.
I can't understand how people can see any of the mainstream religions as "religions of love" when they're nothing more than cults hating on outsiders, there's no logic on what's actually good and bad
The thing about "Unholy" is that they're LITERALLY calling the scenario unholy. They're not like, saying it's good. Like 'duh, it's bad, the devil's work, let's move on'
I mean, an argument could be made that Unholy is normalizing that behavior, which isn't exactly great, but you're not wrong that the song doesn't frame it as a good thing.
The music video ends with him laying unconscious on a car written with liar and cheat written on it. The song recognizes that these things are out there and doesn’t comment on the morality of it. Instead it’s commenting on the kind of people who claim to be good holy upstanding fathers and husband that secretly have affairs and secret lovers. They act like they are better than other people but when no one is looking they do the exact same thing.
God doesn't want anyone to die; he wants people to follow him, but when you die, and you have never given ur life to God, you will go to hell. That is just the reality of life, and most people when someone tells them they are going to go to hell because they never gave their life to God get mad.
@sophiaturpin3772 Allow me to explain why some people get mad when you tell them they're going to hell. God invented everything, but for some godforsaken (pun intended) reason he makes people choose whether or not to follow him, he provides no proof he actually exists, and if people don't follow him they suffer eternally. This also applies if you never even hear about God, and have no way to follow something you've never heard of. Why would I not get mad if someone tells me all of this, and follows it up with "so you'd better believe and love him back, or hell awaits"? Your version of God sounds like an insane person. I never want anything to do with the guy. Why would you?
@@king_z0g you might be mad when someone says “you will go to hell if you don’t believe in Christ, god ect” that’s bc we believe in that and in our eyes it’s true. If you don’t believe in god you can’t go to heaven because you don’t want to seek him, heaven is so you can go their to be with him when you die. he doesn’t want you to have to spend eternity with him if you don’t believe him and he knows you probably won’t like it. he does this because he loves you either way.
@@HairyChicken265 I understand what you're saying, but what you left out is that he sends you to a lake of fire to suffer eternally if you don't like him, not just some crappy limbo or (god quite literally forbid) just let you die and be done with it. He doesn't just want us to make our own choices, he wants to punish us if we make a choice he considers wrong. That's really, really, really cruel and unnecessary, because he invented the choice in the first place.
I specifically hate when they “remix” songs that are criticisms of the clear harm Christianity has had on people. Like you can’t say gay people are wrong for feeling rejected/demonized by the church when that’s what the religion (generally speaking) calls for. It’s a total bastardization of the artist and the art to look at songs like montero and take me to church & go “but it’s not praising Jesus therefore I can’t relate !! 😢” that’s the WHOLE POINT
Also they’re not even straight up saying “fuck god, fuck Jesus, etc.” (Which they totally could!) They’re criticizing the actions of people and institutions. I’m sure there are lots of Christian’s who can relate to the criticisms of the church they’re singing about (I was one of them when I was a Christian) and claiming that you can’t listen to a song that criticizes a religious institution that you’re related to - even vaguely - is, I don’t know, NOT good
YES SPEAK YOUR TRUTH like montero is a criticism on Christianity's belief on LGBTQ+ people, and I dont actually know what take me to church is about. and the fact that there are christian covers being made only strengthens the points of the songs
It’s so weird too because there’s been talking in the Catholic Church (like I’m talking headquarters, in the Vatican) about allowing priests to preside over same sex marriages. Like there’s a chance that demonising and rejecting and discriminating against LGBTQ+ people will actually no longer be part of the religion, but I doubt that’ll stop these people from continuing to be bigots
This reminds me of when I went to look for snacks in my aunts cabinet and she had a bottle of witchhazel but she taped over the word witch and instead put the word "angel" and I almost lost it.
@doseofcyanide3014 oh yeah no. Like it is technically a disorder but it's not in the DSM5 officially I don't think. Religious OCD is when your compulsive thoughts center around themes of religion.
13:32 I completely agree. If you don't like a song then womp womp. That means it's not for you and that is completely fine, but there is no need to take a song and make it different just so you like it. That's actually disrespectful to the artist that spent their time trying to come up with amazing music for people to enjoy.
The cringe part is that they shamelessly embrace their censorship. Mutilating someones art and then acting like everyone should thank you for it is some disgusting sense of entitlement.
I mean not many people act like they should thank them. If they did that would be horrible but most people are just singing it another way and just making a parody like others have done.
@@commentsnowman Well, not literally like everyone should thank them but they pose as if it was common sense to make these "corrections" and the lyrics of these songs were objectively wrong before and now they made it better. They give off an extremely condescending vibe and try to pass it off as normal behaviour. They're not making a parody, they're trying to censor - there is no comic effect involved.
It is not entitlement to take something you find horrible and making it better for millions of other people who share your opinion. You are only mad because of your bias against christians but I bet you cheer on when it is the other side who does it.
@@spawnofthedead4556 That is exactly what entitlement is in this case. This is not about some piece of technology where you can objectively improve the design in the engineering sense. This is art. Reinterpreting the whole piece in a christian way would be different (still cringe though). But "correcting" art to "make it better" has some seriously fascist vibes. If you find it so horrible, why don't you leave it as is and let it go? Maybe the artist just didn't intend this song to be for you. In this age of streaming, nobody forces you to listen to this music. This sentiment that you have a right that any piece of popular art should please you and for that reason should align with your ideology is extremely arrogant. In many ways the purpose of art is to challenge peoples views. The fact that there are a couple of others among a few billion that share questionable views doesn't make them acceptable. No, I would not cheer on someone unchristianing a christian song - that would be fucked up. I listen to Skillet every once in a while. I like the sound, I might not necessarily agree with all of their lyrics but I'm able to let it go. I think, you might just share that same sense of entitlement and are mad that I call you out.
Actually, it's more of not using the word 'devil' in a certain context like "she a devil" or "i'm making deals with the devil", because believe it or not, words are actually very powerful so saying those kind of things even unironically may affect your mindset, hence the remixes. But they're just...cringe. They should just make a normal Christian pop song that people would love, instead of these...atrocities.
@@thiccookiesI mean.. it’s true 🤷♀️ I think the person writing the song is trying to get at the fact that the Bible says that without the lord and savior and God in your life, then you will never have eternal life. Madix is truthful when they say that dying is equivalent to ethereal death in hell (used figuratively in this song lyric).
@miss.yolanda you completely missed my point lmfao Now you sound like the friend of the kid saying "well actually it's true, and Santa is real😔" I'm an atheist, this literally means nothing to me
also, "The boy's a liar", That lyric is conveying a friend to say "Hey, that dude is toxic, you should leave him." the fact that someone thought it was "sin" music is funny XD
As a Jewish person getting proselytized to CONSTANTLY by people and media, it’s downright frustrating to have even the things that aren’t overtly Christian be warped into more ways to make EVERYTHING about Christianity. Also it needs to be said that a lot of these songs are by queer folks, or have queer themes. That’s not a coincidence. The Take Me To Church ‘remix’ makes my blood boil. That’s so disrespectful and disgusting. The actual meaning of the song is so steeped in the deep harm from the forced conversion into Catholicism in Irish history. It also made others with religious trauma feel seen and heard. So so so ridiculously disrespectful to have done that.
Also don't forget about the part where they have the nerve to get mad when secular media uses christian imagery in ways that are not explicitly christian.... like you can't shove your religion down everyone's throat for centuries to the point that when anyone says "god", assuming they the person they speak to subscribes to no gods. they immediately think of the christian deity, not Allah, Not Thanatos, Not Izanagi and then expect it not to influence people and how they interact with the world around them, like art.... whether they like it or not, Christianity is as much a part of pop culture as star wars at this point, because when something is everywhere that's just what happens
“‘Take Me to Church’ is essentially about sex,” Hozier said in an interview with New York Magazine in March 2014, adding that “it’s not an attack on faith.”
My Christian mom hates these Christian versions and says that they’re sinning by stealing the artist’s original work. She hates the whole concept of never listening to non-Christian music and actually wants me to put on “my” music so she can relate to what I’m listening to. She oftentimes loves the music I listen to.
@@alexpaulk2819 W mom!!! I wish I was raised this way! (My mom and dad aren't really to blame, it was more so the church we were going to was enforcing that. I am still Christian but I did have bad church experiences I just didn't know they were bad at the time)
as a christian i really liked this video. it didn’t seem overly critical, but you shared your opinions openly. i totally agree that we need more good original christian music
Agreed. I was half expecting this video to just be dogging on Christianity/ Western religion but it felt honest and respectful, separating cringy artists from the whole body of Christian people and their music
the thing that irked me was the take me to church cover. the song about religious trauma and the hate MANY BUT NOT ALL christians mask as love (once again not saying thats you just saying this is often how christans are if you arent raised by a truely kind hearted church or dont learn kind ways) and hoizer specifically wrote the song to express how religion hurt his country
I believe that's mainly because for one Gabi doesn't really seem like the type of person to do that and because she said in the beginning that she grew up in a Christian and Catholic environment and plus she's also a music artist so she sees this through multiple lenses
I agree, I’m a Christian and I found this video quite entertaining. There needs to be good Christian music for once and not cringey covers of pre existing non religious music.
Its crazy that these people hear “deal with the devil” and instead of “oh, thats a popular idiom to describe making a distasteful compromise in the hopes the good will outweigh the bad” they instantly think a celebrity is talking about joining the illuminati
Seems like being surrounded by on-the-nose sermons and blatant propaganda their whole life made them incapable of understanding any subtlety. That would also explain why so many 'christian' movies and other media are as terrible as they are, there's just no room for complex characters or ideas.
the illuminati isn’t even a thing anymore 💀, it was actually a good secret society, unfortunately it disbanded 300 centuries ago, idk how ppl STILL believe that it’s real (at this time) when there’s no evidence. hand signs / provocative performances ≠ devil worship
As a Christian if I don’t like a song or don’t like the message it’s sending I just don’t listen to it…. Sure I’ve looked for a Christian version of sailor song because I love the music and tune to that song and wanted to see how others changed it but that’s it. I’m also a huge fan of Conan gray and his song “Found Heaven” there’s a lyric that’s something like “There’s a God in the sky, don’t believe him” do I still listen to Conan? Absolutely! I even listen to that song, because I know my beliefs and a song won’t change that 😊
I love when they get personally offended at me for "taking the lords name in vain". Like, homie, it's my eternal soul, if I'm cool with risking True Death, then that's my deal. Irrelevant to you. Also then they call me slurs and get surprised when it annoys me lol
@@Jane-oz7pp um now imagine you were using the god of islams name? use it if its not such a big deal to you using the name of a god you dont even serve use the buddhists, hindus,seekists why only christians?
I think another big reason why these Christian song rewrites sound so ridiculous is that, even when you change the lyrics of a song, nothing else has changed about the context of the music. Instrumentals are also hugely inspired by the lyrical content of the song, and vice versa. The genres of pop music that we hear on the radio all have histories and cultural contexts that influence how the beat will sound, what the melody will be like, etc. This is especially obvious for romantic pop and R&B: even if you make the lyrics to be less about sex and more about loving God, we're still listening to a song that was at least partially crafted to sound sexy, or even to accompany sex. Dance music is at specific BPMs at least in part because it was created to be enjoyed in a certain social environment or to evoke specific feelings and ways of movement. Simply changing the subject of the lyrics but not changing anything else about how it sounds is creating a song whose construction no longer has any bearing on the vocals and their message, and that always ends up sounding weird and cringe.
So well said! Before reading your comment, I had a hard time pointing what was wrong, that's why it makes me uncomfortable: Because the song is sexy and you are talking about God, and how virtuous you are. I listened to other modified lyrics of religious remix that were pretty well done because the music can be used for different context like some songs of adele, of light instru. Also, pretending to be all virtuous on tiktok 😂😂
I once wrote an essay about the problem with Christian media. It’s not just that the message is being spoon fed to the audience but also because they’re literally preaching to the choir. The only people watching Christian movies are already Christian because they always make the antagonist a “nonbeliever”, and it’s just not relatable to anyone else Edit: I do want to say I appreciate how respectful she is towards Christians in this, and how they don’t even notice because it’s the culture they grew up in. I was raised Christian so the most secular comedy I was exposed to was veggietales 🙃
That’s why Prince of Egypt is the best Christian movie. If it was a regular Christian movie I doubt it would have portrayed the Pharaoh and his relationship with Moses with such nuance.
@totallybeatable9238 It's redundant and really overplayed not giving new ideas or developing new plots. Which is not relatable at all to anyone since we are always changing as a people every day. It's very much, "I'm holier than thou art." And sadly it's been stuck like that for far to long.
As a Catholic I really really agree with your points. Let Christian music be Christian and let other genres be what they want to be. On a side note I also hate it when artists cover a song and change up the lyrics even a little. It takes away the original meaning of the song.
Check out the theme tune to Outlander. It goes on about an English nurse falling through time and getting it on with sexy Scotsmen. The original tune is the Skye Boat Song - it's about the young Prince Charles of Scotland having to be secretly transported to the Isle of Skye, then on to France, so he couldn't be MURDERED by the English crown (in order to gain control of yet another country, which they did, as I'm sure you know). So changing the lyrics to be about some English woman getting her rocks off over a disenfranchised group is... a typically American choice. My friend's great uncle wrote that song. Now middle aged white women around the world get thirsty when it plays. Fuck's sake.
@@jaxorisit1447 Yes. If the lyrics haven’t aged well then I find it okay. And there is also always the case of an explicit and clean version for songs but they don’t always totally change the meaning
i don't know, unless they change the song to the opposite meaning of the original, i think changing the lyrics in a cover is fine, since usually its to change the meaning of the song to fit closer to what the person was going for
21:57 "Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making Rock & Roll worst." I'm using that line. There are so many times I needed that line.
The one good Christian rock band i know is Skillet, and even then they have some incredibly mediocre and bad songs (Cough Cough, The entire album of Unleashed), and i just can't with John Cooper (their frontman).
Don't worry buddy, you get a lollipop for not being a miserable human being, keep being you, even us non-believers tend to respect the christians that actually don't force everything to be religious.
@@Nothingtoseehereanyway awe thank you, and as a Christian, I don’t think religions should be forced upon non-believers. Because what I learned, is God gave us free will to decide whether we want to follow him or not. So thank you for understanding lol 🥰
Maybe I'm taking this too seriously but I thought about that too! I have some Christian family and its weird when people seem to only talk about black artists (ofc I know that's not entirely the case but in my experience, rap and other music by black artists seems to be hated on a little more)
Maybe I'm taking this too seriously but I thought about that too! I have some Christian family and its weird when people seem to only talk about black artists (ofc I know that's not entirely the case but in my experience, rap and other music by black artists seems to be hated on a little more)
@@ieatghosts1331 it’s not taking things to serious to acknowledge racism, in fact, it’s racism to not want to acknowledge racism. I find it extremely weird that Gabby left out the massive piece of nuance in the way white people have treated people of color, especially when it comes to stealing art and demonizing it’s original creators.
@@christinewarden3450Tbf, I am old enough to remember entire CDs of this kind of crap and they were changing Britney Spears and NSync. Rap is the most popular category of music right now, and some of the biggest creators are black. But if you dig around you can definitely find them changing white artist's music too.
Speaking as a Christian, a thing about modern Christians that has always annoyed me is our weird need to water down secular media and make it “Christian”. Like if you don’t like the message it’s sharing, simply don’t interact with it; no one is forcing you to listen to Doja Cat. Revamping and sterilizing existing media to make it Jesus friendly just makes you look pretentious and self-congratulating, like “Look how perfect and clever I am, turning this sinful piece of media into worship!! I’m such a good Christian!!”
Thank you for this. I may not be religious (grew up Catholic/Ukrainian Orthodox but got away from that stuff), and while I know most Christians are decent people who see certain media and may say "No, I don't like that, it's not for me" before moving on with their lives, the crazy outliers make the rest look bad. It's not clever or cute to "make this un-Christian song their own," it's just cringey. I don't even care if someone takes a popular song and reinterprets it about Jesus so they can enjoy the tune with lyrics they relate to. It reminds me of what Kidz Bop does. But the smug self-satisfaction these people get when they do it and post it just creeps me out. Like you said, they really do seem to think it makes them holier-than-thou.
They can't abide the fact that not everything caters to them. That not everyone thinks like them. Anything existing that doesn't explicitly service them is immediately a threat.
@@yuzuru.u It's not that we care that they make it - look at the one example where her version was clearly a labor of love for both her religious views AND the artist. That's great. The problem is what these videos say about the people making them. They make these videos out of hate. They make these videos out of a pathological need to assimilate everything. They can't stand that something exists that doesn't fit their world view, be it music, culture, or people's personal beliefs. If you're Christian, that's great. You're free to believe whatever you want, to celebrate your beliefs however you want. But leave the rest of us out of it. People are sick to death of Christians trying to force their views on everyone else, and these kinds of videos, and the motives behind them, are reflective of that attempt to force everyone into being like them.
The one where they say “If SZA made a Christian song” came off as her just combining two things she liked- which is totally fine! That’s the reason it sounded good if you ask me, because there was real passion and appreciation for both.
The other approach that works is if it is just a joke. There are some hilarious deliberate joke versions of these that work well (just as there are funny versions of Christian songs tweaked or just performed as love songs).
Rewriting take me to church to make it, “more Christian,” is so gross. He wrote it about the harm that the Catholic Church did to Ireland, and to minority groups there like the LGBTQ+ community.
Oh my gosh, this reminds me of the time someone made a cover of “This is Me” from the Greatest Showman- a song about acknowledging your imperfections and loving yourself and being proud of who you are- into “this is He”, which made me cry
As a Christian myself i don't get why they're so concerned about changing these "unholy" songs and turning them into "gospel". Instead of taking your sweet time to change these words and serve us cringe why not just write your own song instead.....
My biggest question is why listen to a song that will obviously have bad words/explicit content with. As a Christian myself, I reccomended either hearing clean version of songs or don't listen to songs at all with explicit content. It's completely ridiculous. For me, I listen to After Dark x Sweather Weather
If simply hearing the word “devil” makes you terrified, you give “the devil” SO MUCH power over you. “The devil” thrives on fear, and “God” thrives on love. Being afraid of a word is literally working for the devil.
even IF the word “hell” was as detrimental to their faith as what they make it, the fact that they can’t remove/replace the word and have to make the entire song about their faith is so telling
ive been a christian for a very long time, grew up in church and a christian school, etc. and never once in my life have i been this arrogant about my faith. just because we are christian doesnt mean we get the right to negatively criticize art and change it to meet our narrative! crazy concept. also acting like its just ''so much better'' than the og song is so ridiculous. because i bet you money if someone took a normal pop song and made it satanic it would have immense backlash. so how come these people get praised for it? its SUCH a double standard and i genuinely find these people so childish.
I’m not religious. I just haven’t had good experiences from church. I’ve also listen to a lot of Owl City growing up and he’s still one of my top listened artists. There are some more religious Owl City songs, but i don’t mind them. They’re bops and I can still enjoy that. Hearing the word “God” isn’t a trigger word to suddenly become christian. Awesome video, Gabi!
Absolutely love Owl City and the few Christian songs I’ve heard from him we’re actually really good. But finding out him and a few other artists/bands that I grew up listening to were Christian was surprising!
Love seeing Adam get the recognition he deserves. As a Christian, his religious based songs are a lot more meaningful to me, but I'm biased. The thing I most appreciate about what Adam is doing isn't the fact that he's writing songs about what I believe in. It's because he's writing songs about what he believes in. He's honest about his feelings towards God. There are a lot of Christian artists that I don't like, because their songs don't come across as genuine. I think that's the main issue with these covers: they're not heartfelt. They're not coming from a place of honesty. In a similar vein, there's an artist that I really like who is very open about his religious trauma and how that's affected his life. He is very anti-Christian, and not afraid to speak out against it. I don't agree with him, but I respect him immensely for being honest and vulnerable in his songs. Artists shouldn't be afraid to share personal aspects of their lives in their music, and religion is a really big part of a lot of people's lives, for good or bad reasons.
This reminds me of how people say “they don’t make country like they used to” but ignore the fact that the old country music they like are anti-capitalist and pro union and other socialist ideas like not being exploited by the government and industry for profit. And at the same time they hate unions and are pro exploitation under capitalism thinking they’ll be billionaires one day. It’s really sad an upsetting to see
45 year old southern conservative white women obsessed with The Chicks not realizing that they're massive feminists it's like the mid-30s white dudes who clearly don't understand what Machine they were supposed to Rage Against.
The nail on the head. Just like Bo's commentary on "Stadium Country", fans of modern "Stadium Country" can be seen as shallow because they just want a good beat and catchy lyrics and honestly that's no harm no foul. It's the country fans that critique modern country as “they don’t make country like they used to” that really scare me because, is that a memory issue? They're just making up the past to fit their ideology.
I worked at a church as a bassist in 2017. There was a guy there who had some rough times in life and tried to develop his rap career at the ripe age of 50 and one time during a service, he played Wet Dreamz by J Cole (original version) and decided to rap over it with Christian lyrics. I had to sit on a stage in front of 50 people and not laugh my butt off while this was happening.
omG, I WAS A BASSIST IN CHURCH FOR NEARLY 2O YRS!!!! Thank you for your comment! Still loving God but not most of the "christians!!!" 🙄Be well, friend ☺
I do think these remix can get a bit hurtful on very spesific songs that are about religious trauma and just erasing the criticism and expression of religion the original artist had and therefore just erasing and ignoring their pain. I do think this is just a slight possibility since songs like that don't get popular most of the time
Take me to church is about religious trauma in Ireland with the Catholic church, (more specifically being Gay in Ireland under the Catholic church, but you can listen to it without that context), and that was one of the most popular songs in 2014, or Maddie Zahm's music
i grew up in a christian family and i went to a really intense christian school. i genuinely cannot comprehend how some of these people think that forcing things down ur throat will make u wanna join their religion. the only thing it did was make me feel super uncomfortable around christian people, even the ones who are normal unfortunately. like hot diggity dog, calling me an idiot, screaming at me, hitting me, and trying to take advantage of me during bad times in my life is totally gonna make me religious :|
Exactly. Like telling seven year old me that liking 'boyish' things as a girl will make me burn in hell. Having family and members of my local church always asking very young and impressionable me about my sexuality and forcing religion on me just left me with disdain for religion entirely. Not to say that I don't respect religious people, I mean, do whatever the hell you want, but sitting in church makes me uncomfortable.
@@Morgan720-l4y same ,I "idgaf about your religion old lady I just came for my mom " this is a routine for me it's has been lasting 2 years it's exhausting to remember your mom that you don't want to be there (church) and she just don't care about my atheist ass she just wants to reassure that she always will make me obey to her and she is saying my dad it's a bad influence (a me being atheist) I don't even talk with him wtf
tw: rant. exactly, at my school we were even forced to some sort of anti-gay/trans/ace bs thing our "theology class" and of course this was right when i was still recovering from an episode of depression and trying to understand just who i was and i already knew that i was not cis or allo so :( there were entire class periods where i would cry or just leave the paper blank because i just couldn't take it
Hey, as a christian please remember that some “christians” can be very judgmental and rude and it is a huge problem. They go against Gods word thinking they’re doing something for him, when they are doing the opposite. If you want to be christian or not is YOUR CHOICE. it has always been your choice. So please do not let anyone make you feel bad especially when it comes from malicious intent. I want to spread love, and especially to you. Im sorry for those people that have hurt you 💗 You are loved and accepted, always remember that.
I absolutely love how you said there’s more to Christianity than the anime battle between the God and the devil. Seriously couldn’t have said it better.
Love the points you're making in this video. I'm a Christian who generally hates popular Christian media, and I agree with you saying that lots of it is propaganda and not art. So much of christianity in the west has become an echo chamber of bigotry, where everyone has a persecution complex. Sharing the word isn't relational anymore, the way it's modeled by Christ who spent time with people different from his core group of believers. For the modern church, sharing the gospel is a method of gate keeping.
The points you and gabi are making are exactly why im not Christian any more they are always saying that if i dont change my ways and be a bigot like most of them it just makes me mad
One thing Christians never seem to realize is that they did this. Christianity has been such a dominant force in American culture for so long that things like hell, demons, sinning, aren't just religious artifacts. They're parts of culture that everyone is familiar with. So they get used in art even if the creator has nothing to say about religion.
One thing I've also noticed is that a LOT of these covers are primarily of songs made by LGBTQ and/or minority people. It's never secular music made by white or straight people but these ones are labeled 'unholy' or 'evil' in a way that definitely feels coded.
@@suzanneclark7706 Like,ya'll. If you REALLY want to ruin a song do Hell's Comin' With Me (and this one is totally off topic) Take Me to Church. THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.
@@justanonbinarynerd-ne9ttSome Christian's literally think that Take Me To Church is ALREADY a positively Christian song. These people have NO lyrical literacy. 😭
Honestly when I found out the oh hellos were actually a gospel band I almost chocked. Their lyrics are SO FUCKING GOOD, beautiful, poetic, authentic! They are complexed and nuanced! and a lot of ppl have so many different interpretations of them, when I found out they were gospel “thus always to tyrants” and “where is your rider” got a whole other layer of meaning. Their recording of “poet,soldier,king” is so beautiful!! Btw I loved that you mentioned good Christian Brazilian songs, we do it so well. If I can make a recommendation, listen to “Anunciação” by Alceu Valença.
@@Billie12208 I would personally recommend Ceaser or Dear Wormwood, from the Dear Wormwood alubm! If your wondering where to start I would start with Through the Deep dark Valley, then working your way up to their most recent album.
i’d say they’re more mythological in general, with some references to both christian and greek myths! nonetheless, they’re a very good band, and what’s even more interesting is their album Eurus and its message to the church about new age religion and allowing things to flow instead of forcing things to be set in older beliefs forever
I saw the comments on the Paint the Town Red cover, they are hilarious, "This shi go hard on mute" "And the crowd goes mild" "She cooked but no one was hungry" and finally "Hidden talent! keep it hidden"
Underoath (were, dropped religion) are a great example of a Christian band that transcended the label of being Christian because their music is so good. I, an atheist, will still sing the “I hope to god” part in Writing on the Walls with my entire chest, I’ve cried to that song because of how personal it is and that’s why they had a number one album and more than one Grammy nominations on top of being one of the most beloved and respected artists of the emo/hardcore scene.
Doja had previously been harassed and accused of selling her soul after showing up to the met in Doja’s Inferno outfit, which was a play on Dante’s Inferno. (Which btw is a WORK OF FICTION.) She was also bashed after getting monster tattoos claiming they were demons, even though they were from a REALLY old book of monsters, which was a work of art. In retaliation, Doja leaned into the devil worshiper idea and used her song and music video to troll those people. Most embarrassing bit is that NONE of them realize she’s being a troll and started freaking out abt it
It always reminds me of an old joke. A doctor, a vegan, a crossfiter, and an evangelical walk into a bar. How do you know which one is which? Don't worry, they'll tell you in the first two minutes. 😂
It's kind of like with KidzBop tbh. Like... there are regular songs out there that just don't mention sex, drugs, the devil, and rock'n'roll. If you don't want to listen to those things... just listen to other songs? Instead rewriting, like, Highway to Hell into a Christian pop ballad or something. Although I would like to hear that tbh. When I was a teenager we didn't have cable, and Trinity Broadcasting Network was the only station I could get reception from on Saturdays so I watched a lot of it, so I know for a fact it IS possible to write Christian music that slaps because jfc the songs in Kids 10 Commandments were great.
ppl thought the hozier one is good because mentions of god and church even though they dodged the sound waves of him actually talking about how the irish suffered from evangelists
I am so glad that someone spoke up about this. People were saying that "If you don't believe in Jesus, you will go to h3ll." I am a Hindu and a Buddhist. I felt like they were forcing me to become that religion and I felt uncomfortable. Another person also forced me to become Muslim, but I had my own beliefs (And still do.) I love all religions but please don't force people just to have a new religion.
@@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXxBuddhism is more of a philosophy or lifestyle than religion. The gist of it is that desire is the root of all suffering, so you have to control your desires. There are no gods in Buddhism. Hinduism, on the other hand, is a more traditional religion. It is polytheistic (has many gods)
Speaking as metalhead, I definitely agree that most representations of the devil in music are not meant to be taken literally. Some bands use demonic imagery for no other reason than for shock value. Slayer, for instance, has a lot of over the top lyrics about Satanism, hell, and the devil, yet the guy singing those lyrics (Tom Araya) is actually Christian. They pretty much only wrote that stuff to take advantage of the Satanic panic of the 80’s and try to elevate their status. Most of the actual “Satanic” metal I’ve come across could more accurately be described as “anti-theistic.” Think Deicide; their music always came across to me more as anti-God than pro-Satan. Some also use Satan for metaphorical reasons, such as Behemoth (their 2014 album “The Satanist” is probably the best example I can think of for using Satanism as a metaphor). The reason Satan comes up in art and music is, for the most part, because he is a stand in for a lot of powerful themes and messaging. Metal happens to turn to this imagery much more often than other genres because it makes sense with the general vibe that metal has, and with the stories metal musicians prefer to tell with their music. Metal is also very popular among people recovering from and deconstructing negative religious experiences after leaving the faith (i.e. apostates), which explains some of it as well.
Literally Satanism uses Satan as a metaphor for antiestablishment themes of the religion. I used to be laveyan Satanist and yeah, there's no talk of Lucifer. It's all about independent morality, regardless of any post-life consequences
Not only that, but there are a bunch of Christian metal/metal adjacent bands that exist peacefully in the community just fine without freaking out about their contemporaries’ lyrics and stuff.
I feel like not being able to hear "unclean" words without becoming upset is irrational and borderline mental illness. I'm not using that term lightly either. We really don't talk enough about how someone's faith can cause extreme paranoia and delusions. People are free to worship but there is a point where it becomes unhealthy.
Yes, it 100% is! It's religious scrupulosity, and while it in itself is not a mental illness itself, if someone is predisposed to anxiety, depression, or OCD it amplifies those things and makes all those mental illnesses worse.
As a christian, these types of people literally gets on my nerves like no karen, a song saying devil when its not even about the devil is not gonna make them hide under your bed at night
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On the topic of christian media, the ol Veggie Tale series comes to mind as one of the good widely loved examples, even though it's often very on the nose with it's religious messaging. It's not brow beating the audience that they're all sinners that will burn in hell, it's just some silly sentient vegetables having fun and going on adventures plucked out of the myths and stories from the bibles
It's definitely a lot more about being a good person, I remember feeling bad for some characters because they were treated poorly by someone being a b-hole
May I add another? The Prince of Egypt. It's literally an animation telling the story of Moses (not perfectly acurate but eh), it's a Bible story, there's literally the burning bush scene with God talking to Moses beautifully animated in the movie. Yet it never feels pushy or overtly religious; in fact, it has beautiful storytelling and religion is just one aspect of it. It's one of my favourite examples of religious media because they're there to tell a story, a story from the Bible but a story nevertheless, and not to push a message. The result is beautiful, from music to visuals, there isn't a single moment of that movie that isn't wonderful. I feel like if religious art just focused on telling a story, or writing a song, or heck, just praise God earnestly, they would get art that's much greater and more beautiful than what they get by being overly concerned with being Christian and pushing this message that the Devil is bad, God and Jesus are good, and you have to have faith. It's kinda like flattening the whole faith into a 2D caricature, it feels shallow, hollow and devoid of meaning.
@@gabrielabatista6016the prince of egypt is such a beautiful movie that it transcends religion. everyone should watch prince of egypt. there’s also that funny rumor about it. shrek and prince of egypt were in production at the same time and if someone messed up they’d get sent to work on shrek instead. they called it ‘getting shreked.’ it’s definitely fake but it’s funny so i like to believe it’s true
@@dr.pepperbiggestfanActually, apparently it is true. On an interview one of the animators mentioned it, and "getting shreked" was the nickname the animators themselves gave to the punishment. It also matches in the timeline, because Shrek started production in '95, plus it was viewed as a low budget production at the time, while Prince of Egypt was the high budget one (I mean, some of the scenes took a long time, I think the sea parting alone took two years?), so they originally thought Shrek was going to fail. Also, apparently some of the side characters were voiced by the animators too. (and I google it, quite a few that I could find were also storyboard artists, so... That one I can't really confirm, but it's plausible)
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i love how you give me so much New hate towards people, it's honestly a talent waking other people up better ánd more hateful than before. great vid as always p.s. we are rooting for you.
You should’ve talked more about white people and Christians tendency to steal art, and then demonize the original creators, and how trying to convert people to your religion is hard-core weird and gives colonist vibes
It’s like the great Hank Hill said.
“You’re not making Christianity better; you’re making rock and roll worse.”
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aww, it's in the video and everything she beat you to it
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Watching that show rn lololol
yes thank you
You don’t have to relate to music to enjoy it. It’s like if someone said, “I really like Olivia Rodrigo’s music, but I’m in a happy healthy relationship, so I’m going to rewrite ‘good 4 u’ so I can sing it.” I think that adds to the cringe, just how pointless it is??
The idea of rewriting a song about unhealthy relationships is so weird because, we have songs about healthy relationships. That’s approximately 50% of the love/relationship song category
but we can't enjoy most secular music. that's why people rewrite it.
@@borahaeist3215 most secular music? Like what-? I get that you can't listen to rappers or many pop girls... But ya'll still have A LOT MORE. Like don't simmer people like Doja Cat to that Paint the Town Red song or Don't generalize SZA to Kill Bill. They have plenty more songs that don't mention anything religious, but yes many of the songs may involve "sinful acts" but just like what gabi says, skip it. If you want mainstream and popular artists, maybe listen to people like Taylor Swift, Melanie Martinez, Olivia Rodrigo, The Weeknd, plenty of their music can maybe fit into what you like. OR MAYBE LISTEN TO COUNTRY, SOUL, AND JAZZ MUSIC-
GOOD FOR YOU I'M GLAD YOU'RE HAPPY AND HEALTHY
LIKE ME
GOSH I'M SO GLAD I CAN DO THAT 😊
Dude I listen to Joji all the fucking time, (hell I’m going to his concert next week) never once have I been in a relationship, much less had a bad breakup, and let’s be fr now that’s the subject matter for like 80% of his music. That doesn’t mean I can’t still get so much enjoyment out of it! I can appreciate the quality of the lyrics, vocals, production, and instrumentation that come together to convey a feeling, even if I personally haven’t felt it before. Not everything needs to be catered to YOUR specific life experience for you to find value in it, in fact, I think it’s important to consume art that conveys all sorts of experiences separate from your own. That’s part of how we create understanding between one another as people, by finding ways to see the world from different perspectives we didn’t consider before.
Soldier, Poet, King is SUCH a BOP of a christian song. They dont need to do all theatrics with other existing songs that dont even worship the devil. Like be so serious.
THAT'S A CHRISTIAN SONG!!! I A CHRISTIAN AND DIDN'T KNOW
The Oh Hello’s are VERY christian, but its always shown really poetically. They even recorded a christmas carol, and while I’m very much jewish and have a dislike of Christmas, its so beautiful to listen to
THATS A CHRISTIAN SONG?! DAMN I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE
All of The Oh Hellos music is Christan. The siblings who write and sing the music are practising Christians (I think). Their album, Dear Wormwood, is actually about the Screwtape Letters!
Yeah. It got really popular because of DnD and TTRPG, but it is originally a Christian song. I’m not a Christian myself but I can still enjoy it through the lens of it being about a DnD party and their backstories.
When you stated talking at the end about how Christians are taking someone else's music and making it "pure" to fit their worldview, it reminded me of something I couldn't quite put my paw on. But I got it. This reminds me of when artists will take someone's drawing and draw over it without asking, claiming that they "fixed" it
it's just sticking their fingers in their ears going LALALALA JESUS so they can be all up on their high horse.
As an Irish person, the Take Me To Church cover really frustrated me. The immense pain and abuse Irish people suffered at the hands of the Catholic Church cannot be understated and its effects are still very much felt today. An ugly scar runs through my country which Hozier shone a light on, only to be “cleansed” but these ignorant assholes
I tried searching up the relationship between the Catholic Church and Irish people that you mentioned, but I'm unable to find anything concrete.
Can you educate me on this matter?
I understand totally, thank you for your worthy comment friend. God is great, religiosity is shite!
@@rerorero6493Aside from the fact that the partition of Northern Ireland and Ireland is related to animosity between Catholics and Protestants (and has a lot to do with the willingness to accept being part of Great Britain), there is also, as an example, the issues of unwed mothers and their infants being abused, on a large scale. There are other issues too, like rape, sexual assault, and children buried in mass graves, but it doesn't take much digging to find this information. It's very surface.
@@rachelk4805 Oh wow, thankyou for your response.
I'm going to try and search more about this topic, I just gave a quick 5 minute glance on Google the first time so, gonna try harder now lol. Thanks again!
That's because evangelicals are just ignorant reactionaries; they never knew about any of the meaning of the original song, nor would they ever care. It's just about them feeling slighted and wanting to "fix" the "obscene" song that "dares to reference Church". they're stupid and freak out at the slightest offense, is what I'm saying.
There's something to be said about how songs like Call me by your name were created out of a genuine religious based trauma response. "You say I will go to hell because of being who I am, because of something I can't control, so I just did what you told me to, why are you upset??"He is literally responding to the hate he was taught he deserved from the church, it's not just "he he he, ha ha, lapdancing the devil funny"
I wish I could retweet this comment or post it somewhere for more people to see
Agreed. There's also something to be said about creativity and being open-minded (i.e. not hating lgbt people).
Totally! If they did what Gabbie is suggesting and respected the source material to actually critical think on the message they could learn how negative the erasure of the original meaning in these works are.
It's because they literally don't see the message of "I have been harmed by what Christians said". Because these types of Christians don't think they can do anything wrong.
"We can't traumatise a young gay black man, because trauma is an act of harm, and why, we were only spreading the word of Jesus! Lil Nas is a sinner, not really a human with a rich inner existence. You're an NPC. I can't harm you, because you're just a walking talking manifestation of sin for me to monologue at to feel better about myself!"
It's very much the Victim/Attacker mentality. People often think of themselves as one or the other: the Victim, or the Assailant.
Christians like this are obsessed with being persecuted. They cannot cause harm. They can only BE harmed.
They are BLIND to the message Lil Nas was saying, because that would destroy their entire moral foundation of the self.
@@CiCodiCadno I'm a gay black male myself and I personally don't mind christain covers. In my opinion unless their inciting violence in their covers they don't bother me. I do agree with some of your points though.
As a christian, I can, with my full chest, say these covers make me cringe too. The amount of ignorance some have is astounding as well.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 the same way whatever makes you cringe, cringe.
Is praying also cringe?
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@@urmomeatmysoap3843Love to the Christian fight too💀
@@WinniePooh33 lmao nice
4:23 lol my grandma is a christian and she tried to exorcise the demons out of my leafeon action figure once..
WHAT!
@@starunit5475 yeah..
@@dekushipper33 as a Christian, I collect anime figures, they’re just plastic 😮
@@starunit5475 same i collect mha figures lol i have to hide them from my grandma
@@dekushipper33 oh darn… luckily my parents are big nerds lol my dad loves figures he grew up collecting Star Wars figures
As someone who's mom listens to a lot of Christian radio, Ive been hearing terrible religious versions of secular songs for literal decades, and Ive had NO ONE to talk to about it with. I have felt like I was losing my mind. Thank you for making me feel seen.
I can deny that Christian secular version of songs I like are really bad and I’ve never liked them. And I’m a private Christian as well who loves and listen to a lot of different music from around the world and Take me to church is song that I love to
@@Superbatmanbro same to both of yall tbh
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As someone who has been listening to Christian songs on the radio since childhood, singers back then used to be more passionate about music and God nowadays you can obviously tell which songs are made for profit and which songs are not
@@cranburrey In the 80's-90's the Christian labels got into bed with he major labels. Now they're either distributed by outright owned by the majors.
Hozier's song was played on christian radio stations for a while until they realized the song was criticizing the church
A lot of religious people just have 0 media literacy skills from being taught not to form their own opinions on things, I guess.
that is definitely not true
Omg same on the Montana Christian radio 😂
@@abigailgerlock8328someone debunked you try again
FR I USUALLY CAN'T STAND ANY CHRISTIAN OR COUNTRY MUSIC(bc of how unoriginal and nails on a chalkboard over used and boring to the point I'd rather rip my ear canals our then be forced to listen. I mean this from a musical standpoint btw, if you like those genres good on you.) BUT HE MAKES SUCH BANGERS‼‼🔥 Also it was funny asf to watch no one else get what it meant💀
When unholy dropped and they sang and the grammies my church had a 1 hour and 30 minute "sermon"(rant) just about how demonic they are and how kim should die and that kim and sam are going tom the lowest pits of hell WITHOUT EVER KNOWING THE MEANING OF THE SONG😭😭⁉ They just get angry and whine like a baby to mislead others into doing the same before bothering to properly educate themselves..
In my opinion, the covers can actually cause harm. I think the title was “God Must Hate Me,” but there was a song where the singer talked about her insecurities and religious trauma, and Christians got mad over it and made covers. They completely ignored the religious trauma, and instead focused on the title
Yeah. They’re supposed to love everyone, right? Or something like that I don’t know. So why are they dismissing trauma? Trauma that real people have to endure, not your God that can’t even be proven real. Besides he’s already perfect according to most Christians, so he’s not going to get his feelings hurt over a few non-believers.
That’s such a good song tho. I’m still Christian, I believe in God, I don’t go to church currently and am still dealing with the role religion plays in my life. The song resonates with me, I think it’s so insensitive for people to just dismiss it when it has so much meaning
I LOVE THIS SONG BUT MY MOM (who is christian) WOULD GET SO MAD WHEN I WOULD TURN IT ON
Or another song would be, take me to church, which a lot of Christians thought to be a Christian song as it had the words amen and church in it. After then finding out it's about religious trauma and homophobia from the church immediately turning around and saying it's "blasphemy" despite the fact it's a song about religious trauma and then making covers of it, completely eradicating the purpose of the song
@@LuckythecatZ- Or Genesis - Jesus He Knows Me which is about Televangelists Greed yet somehow Christians believe its a song about Affirming Jesus lol They really just interpret art on a very superficial level.
as a christian, everything you said was on point. i couldn't agree more, but i never had the words to put these thoughts together. i really appreciate you making this video and the way that you expressed your views on this. so awesome.
If your faith can be so easily dismantled by a song, Your faith is very fragile.
Well then leave songs as they are and we wouldn't have a problem
@@L0cal_Librarianpretty sure they’re on Gabi’s side
@@L0cal_Librarianits called a "cover" for a reason people do covers and change the lyrcis everytime but when Christians wanna do their on little cover with their own things its a problem even though everyone is doing it. If you dont like the cover i dont get why its so hard not to listen to it like trust me you can find original songs easier then covers and such like just listen to the original dont listen to something you know your gonna get triggered by.
Why not ?@@Chillipowww
But when people do covers they don't change the lyrics do they ? I don't like listening to christian covers anyways but my fyp brings it up. @@NT-gi7lb
The Take Me to Church cover really irked me. I always interpreted as a song about religious trauma and it holds meaning for communities harmed by the church, it just feels so disrespectful and ignorant to make a cover like that.
I personally also hold it very highly as someone with religious trauma and who is constantly around people who fully believe I deserve to burn for being queer. It’s very frustrating.
I was thinking the same thing. Taking a song that's about a dude getting killed for being gay by a bunch of christians and turning it into some worship bullshit is another level of ignorance
Ok-
Hozier, who wrote that song, highlights the harm done in the name of religion, because the Catholic Church did irreparable harm to his country.
@@Thehouseoffail That’s exactly what I’m talking about, it’s harmed that community in specific and other communities also harmed by the church also are able to relate to it in a place of pain.
Yeah that one pisses me off.
So often Christian art is so concerned with being Christian it forgets to be art.
SOMEONE SAID IT! As a Christian artist I am often so bored with contemporary Christian music/art. Because it’s so overly focused on pushing the gospel (which isnt a bad thing) that it completely forgets to have any artistic merit (which IS a bad thing!!)
This is so true! Reminds me of an ex friend of mine who at one point seriously considered stop listening to any music that doesn’t praise god like why are you so boring??? Why everything you do has to center Jesus
👏👏👏 yesssss. slapping a "jesus sticker" on it.... just doesn't cut it. I know they mean wel but like...... we can do better.
@@djoctobeat5204 Oh how the mighty have fallen. Religion for most of human history was the most prevalent source of creativity and art across the world. Now an exceptionally vocal minority of Christians don't understand metaphors or subtlety.
Yes, it's sad that those Christians just completely "ruin" the comuinity, they put us under a bad light for other religions
the christian remix ppl sound like this:
person, looking at a painting: i hate this painting. looking at it makes me mad
artist: dont look at it then
person: im going to stare at it, then repaint it and angrily talk about the fact that i hate it while showing it to you aggressively
Lmao this is so true but please put more space in your paragraph lol
@@youparejo The irony of this comment…
@@kck9435 your resolution for 2025 is to learn the definition of irony
@@youparejo No it’s quite ironic how the theme of OP’s comment is about ignoring things you don’t like instead of taking the time to criticize them. And instead of ignoring their comment when you have an issue with “their paragraph spacing” you took the time to comment on it. This is actually called situational irony. Next time try reading a different comment, hope this helps!
@@kck9435 ok this was actually funny, i get it now 😂
gabi talking about this is fixing my religious trauma like spackle fixing holes in the wall
i love ur username lol
@@its.annmariaI just realized the name and...same
so real tbh
I'm so sorry for your religious trauma, its so sad that it happens so often now a days as people push things onto other people.
YESSSSS!!
@@its.annmaria
A VERY popular christian song is Soldier, Poet, King by the Oh Hellos. It's not obvious outwardly, but when you think about it, yeah, it is pretty clear what it means. It's a very well loved song that's wriggled its way into multiple trends and fandoms, and I think it's a really nice example of stuff like this done well.
YEEEEES THATS MY FAVORITE MUSIIIC
Wait it is, holy shit
probably one of the best christian songs i have ever heard, a bit sad that its not really known on churches though. atleast on my country
Casually learning it’s Christian.
Yes. I first discovered the song from the animation meme, then I learned it was about Jesus.
We sang a Christian version of All Star every week at church and then I thought shrek stole it
💀
How did the lyrics goooo? I gotta know
@@ekboobooboobie it was like “hey now you’re an all star, get your game on, get saved”
And “the years start comin and they don’t stop comin, so trust in the lord and hell keep your ball rolling”
It was so fun not gonna lie
Lmfao
@@AnnaRenee this is a story so innocent and wholesome that it transcends cringe, i love it
Watching this while thinking of how people turning sailor song by Gigi Perez into "I do believe in God and I believe that he's my saviour" erases meaning. I wish it was more talked about.
Thank you, finally someone is talking about this
@PhilomineAnneArun it makes me SO upset i hate it
@princefilled That's still erasing meaning./nm the line is about struggling with religion due to sexuality
Even though i’m a Christian I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Sailor song
@AprilSmith-g8c and thats because you're a good respectful person :D
Gabi just glossed over her hilarious idea of turning Christian songs into secular music. Somebody get on this asap
I immediately started thinking of hymns I used to sing in the LDS church hahahah
The problem is christian songs mostly suck
Did this all the time! There's the whole "Jesus is my boyfriend" sub-genre of Christian music that's so easy to turn into regular love songs.
@@kylesmith5633 they'd also probably find a way to turn that into how they're so "persecuted" and that it's offensive
@@mina6mina when you’ve never been persecuted being made fun of feels like it. They don’t get the whole structural aspect
What bothers me as a Christian woman with a vast majority of Christian books and movies is how we write atheist and other religions in our media. We typically write them as hateful, angry, depressed people with no chance to redeem themselves.
I agree
That is, after all, what the Bible says non-believers are like
Lol as a believer I'm still depressed as the day is long 😅 I hate how stigmatized being depressed is in most religions
as an atheist, thats why i hate christian books and movies
I can't understand how people can see any of the mainstream religions as "religions of love" when they're nothing more than cults hating on outsiders, there's no logic on what's actually good and bad
The thing about "Unholy" is that they're LITERALLY calling the scenario unholy. They're not like, saying it's good. Like 'duh, it's bad, the devil's work, let's move on'
I mean, an argument could be made that Unholy is normalizing that behavior, which isn't exactly great, but you're not wrong that the song doesn't frame it as a good thing.
@@reaganharder1480but just as with poems and books, people need to overthink the content they're consuming.
@@reaganharder1480 I love how you managed to contradict yourself in one sentence
@@CreativelyUninspired596 they are not contradicting themself? a song's intention and the actual impact don't have to align.
The music video ends with him laying unconscious on a car written with liar and cheat written on it.
The song recognizes that these things are out there and doesn’t comment on the morality of it. Instead it’s commenting on the kind of people who claim to be good holy upstanding fathers and husband that secretly have affairs and secret lovers.
They act like they are better than other people but when no one is looking they do the exact same thing.
I eat glue
God doesn't want anyone to die; he wants people to follow him, but when you die, and you have never given ur life to God, you will go to hell. That is just the reality of life, and most people when someone tells them they are going to go to hell because they never gave their life to God get mad.
@sophiaturpin3772 Allow me to explain why some people get mad when you tell them they're going to hell.
God invented everything, but for some godforsaken (pun intended) reason he makes people choose whether or not to follow him, he provides no proof he actually exists, and if people don't follow him they suffer eternally. This also applies if you never even hear about God, and have no way to follow something you've never heard of.
Why would I not get mad if someone tells me all of this, and follows it up with "so you'd better believe and love him back, or hell awaits"? Your version of God sounds like an insane person. I never want anything to do with the guy. Why would you?
@@king_z0g you might be mad when someone says “you will go to hell if you don’t believe in Christ, god ect” that’s bc we believe in that and in our eyes it’s true. If you don’t believe in god you can’t go to heaven because you don’t want to seek him, heaven is so you can go their to be with him when you die. he doesn’t want you to have to spend eternity with him if you don’t believe him and he knows you probably won’t like it. he does this because he loves you either way.
@@HairyChicken265 I understand what you're saying, but what you left out is that he sends you to a lake of fire to suffer eternally if you don't like him, not just some crappy limbo or (god quite literally forbid) just let you die and be done with it. He doesn't just want us to make our own choices, he wants to punish us if we make a choice he considers wrong. That's really, really, really cruel and unnecessary, because he invented the choice in the first place.
@@king_z0g ngl its ur choice to follow god or not, i believe in heaven and hell but i dont like when others push it down other peoples throats.
I specifically hate when they “remix” songs that are criticisms of the clear harm Christianity has had on people. Like you can’t say gay people are wrong for feeling rejected/demonized by the church when that’s what the religion (generally speaking) calls for. It’s a total bastardization of the artist and the art to look at songs like montero and take me to church & go “but it’s not praising Jesus therefore I can’t relate !! 😢” that’s the WHOLE POINT
Also they’re not even straight up saying “fuck god, fuck Jesus, etc.” (Which they totally could!) They’re criticizing the actions of people and institutions. I’m sure there are lots of Christian’s who can relate to the criticisms of the church they’re singing about (I was one of them when I was a Christian) and claiming that you can’t listen to a song that criticizes a religious institution that you’re related to - even vaguely - is, I don’t know, NOT good
YES SPEAK YOUR TRUTH
like montero is a criticism on Christianity's belief on LGBTQ+ people, and I dont actually know what take me to church is about. and the fact that there are christian covers being made only strengthens the points of the songs
It’s so weird too because there’s been talking in the Catholic Church (like I’m talking headquarters, in the Vatican) about allowing priests to preside over same sex marriages.
Like there’s a chance that demonising and rejecting and discriminating against LGBTQ+ people will actually no longer be part of the religion, but I doubt that’ll stop these people from continuing to be bigots
Meh
THIS! I'm so tired of Christians playing the victim!
Me and my friends use to play the Christian version of Pumped Up Kicks and die laughing at "you better run, better run faster than the devil"
OHHHHHHHHHHH magod
“This music is satanic!”
90% of metal:
Why is that a thing 😭 that song is about a school shooting my god 💀
This made me laugh right now 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This reminds me of when I went to look for snacks in my aunts cabinet and she had a bottle of witchhazel but she taped over the word witch and instead put the word "angel" and I almost lost it.
Bro 💀
That is next level.
That's an unhealthy level of religion
@doseofcyanide3014 oh yeah no. Like it is technically a disorder but it's not in the DSM5 officially I don't think. Religious OCD is when your compulsive thoughts center around themes of religion.
That’s so funny actually 😭😭
13:32 I completely agree. If you don't like a song then womp womp. That means it's not for you and that is completely fine, but there is no need to take a song and make it different just so you like it. That's actually disrespectful to the artist that spent their time trying to come up with amazing music for people to enjoy.
The womp womp is true😭😭😭😭
The cringe part is that they shamelessly embrace their censorship. Mutilating someones art and then acting like everyone should thank you for it is some disgusting sense of entitlement.
THIS!!!!! 😭
I mean not many people act like they should thank them. If they did that would be horrible but most people are just singing it another way and just making a parody like others have done.
@@commentsnowman Well, not literally like everyone should thank them but they pose as if it was common sense to make these "corrections" and the lyrics of these songs were objectively wrong before and now they made it better. They give off an extremely condescending vibe and try to pass it off as normal behaviour. They're not making a parody, they're trying to censor - there is no comic effect involved.
It is not entitlement to take something you find horrible and making it better for millions of other people who share your opinion. You are only mad because of your bias against christians but I bet you cheer on when it is the other side who does it.
@@spawnofthedead4556 That is exactly what entitlement is in this case. This is not about some piece of technology where you can objectively improve the design in the engineering sense.
This is art. Reinterpreting the whole piece in a christian way would be different (still cringe though). But "correcting" art to "make it better" has some seriously fascist vibes.
If you find it so horrible, why don't you leave it as is and let it go? Maybe the artist just didn't intend this song to be for you. In this age of streaming, nobody forces you to listen to this music. This sentiment that you have a right that any piece of popular art should please you and for that reason should align with your ideology is extremely arrogant. In many ways the purpose of art is to challenge peoples views.
The fact that there are a couple of others among a few billion that share questionable views doesn't make them acceptable.
No, I would not cheer on someone unchristianing a christian song - that would be fucked up. I listen to Skillet every once in a while. I like the sound, I might not necessarily agree with all of their lyrics but I'm able to let it go.
I think, you might just share that same sense of entitlement and are mad that I call you out.
them losing their minds when the song says “devil”
Also each of their covers saying “devil” at least three times:
It's in a different context tho
@sixty._7921 true I just thought it was a bit ironic because in most cases that was the word that pushed them to make the songs
@@Cal-fb7weIt's not Satan's name or hell that is the problem in the situation. It's the lyrics, the meaning behind it, and the intentions behind it.
@@madix3333dude its a joke.
LMFAO it’s context
it's hilarious they don't say "devil" in the normal songs but have no problem saying "devil" in the Christian remix
I guess it’s only a problem when you address religious trauma or use the devil as a metaphor-
Actually, it's more of not using the word 'devil' in a certain context like "she a devil" or "i'm making deals with the devil", because believe it or not, words are actually very powerful so saying those kind of things even unironically may affect your mindset, hence the remixes. But they're just...cringe. They should just make a normal Christian pop song that people would love, instead of these...atrocities.
Ah yes, overused, now people gonna start saying that
@@thedelululuni yes exactly!
@@thedelululuni saying those things won't affect your mindset lmao
17:38 this my problem with most Christian media, it’s not a story, it’s a pamphlet
Finally, a Raid ad by Gabi. You're officially a RUclipsr now, we're all proud of you
not an official commentary channel until the ad reads all sound the same
I audibly groaned at that part ☺
Covering "Plastic Love" was just a stepping stone to greatness
KUDOS GABIIII
It's all downhill from here.
The line “Follow his word or you will be dead” kinda just sounds like when you’re a kid trying to make up a song on the spot.
You won't die if you don't follow him but you will parish to hell after death. Your life is meaningless without him.
@madix3333
You remind me of a child trying to convince their friend that santa is real and that you won't get presents if your naughty.
@@thiccookiesI mean.. it’s true 🤷♀️ I think the person writing the song is trying to get at the fact that the Bible says that without the lord and savior and God in your life, then you will never have eternal life. Madix is truthful when they say that dying is equivalent to ethereal death in hell (used figuratively in this song lyric).
@miss.yolanda you completely missed my point lmfao
Now you sound like the friend of the kid saying "well actually it's true, and Santa is real😔"
I'm an atheist, this literally means nothing to me
@@madix3333 i'm not trying to be3 disrespectful to christians but when u put it like that its sounds like ur trying to recruit ppl to a cult
I’ve sung songs with “Hell” and “Devil” in them before, I’m a Christian. Shiver me Timbers..is Satan gonna pop out of my mirror and eat my soul? No!
Lmfao exactly 😂
@@arcaneidk lol 🤣
Ngl I’m scared of saying those words😭😭😭😭
@@jade9596 I don’t say them on a regular basis, and sometimes say heck instead of hell, but seriously, don’t worry about. 👐
Secular music sweetie
Does anyone else feel a bit sick when they see Christians remix "Take Me To Church" and make it holy when it's literaly a song about religious trauma?
also, "The boy's a liar", That lyric is conveying a friend to say "Hey, that dude is toxic, you should leave him." the fact that someone thought it was "sin" music is funny XD
Yeah, these are the same people who say that divorce “ruins” a marriage😂😂
@@LXLA255 bruh a divorce is the result *of* a ruined marriage, what are they talking about? 😂😂😂
@@LXLA255lmao isn't that the point 😭🙏
As a Jewish person getting proselytized to CONSTANTLY by people and media, it’s downright frustrating to have even the things that aren’t overtly Christian be warped into more ways to make EVERYTHING about Christianity.
Also it needs to be said that a lot of these songs are by queer folks, or have queer themes. That’s not a coincidence.
The Take Me To Church ‘remix’ makes my blood boil. That’s so disrespectful and disgusting. The actual meaning of the song is so steeped in the deep harm from the forced conversion into Catholicism in Irish history. It also made others with religious trauma feel seen and heard. So so so ridiculously disrespectful to have done that.
ur getting hella lippy
@@khara4577 back in the corner ike
Couldn't have said is better myself, bravo 👏
@@khara4577hush, they're talking about something serious and here you are, bein silly
Also don't forget about the part where they have the nerve to get mad when secular media uses christian imagery in ways that are not explicitly christian.... like you can't shove your religion down everyone's throat for centuries to the point that when anyone says "god", assuming they the person they speak to subscribes to no gods. they immediately think of the christian deity, not Allah, Not Thanatos, Not Izanagi and then expect it not to influence people and how they interact with the world around them, like art.... whether they like it or not, Christianity is as much a part of pop culture as star wars at this point, because when something is everywhere that's just what happens
What I despise about the take me to church cover is that take me to church is about CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS TRAUMA
“‘Take Me to Church’ is essentially about sex,” Hozier said in an interview with New York Magazine in March 2014, adding that “it’s not an attack on faith.”
@@HH-mr3iqI do remember that, when explaining the song, he did clarify he was being critical about the church in some verses.
@@HH-mr3iq who cares? Religion is brainrot
DUH
thats exactly what I was thinking!
2:18 MY FAVORITE PART look at how proud she is 😭
Fr imagine if I as a jewish girl would start crying and throwing up when ever a Christmas song came up cuz I don't celebrate it😭
This is the best example I’ve seen
Fun fact: A lot of modern Christmas songs were written by Jewish people lol
@@thewonderlander1372 irony strikes hardest when the punchline is the funniest
You should remix them to make them Jewish 😮
@@thewonderlander1372 lol
My Christian mom hates these Christian versions and says that they’re sinning by stealing the artist’s original work. She hates the whole concept of never listening to non-Christian music and actually wants me to put on “my” music so she can relate to what I’m listening to. She oftentimes loves the music I listen to.
My mom was like this with me too growing up, she didn’t know what the hell was going on but she danced 😂.
Your mom is not a true christian but just another modern day christian who is atheist but still goes to church
your mom is a fucking godsend
@@alexpaulk2819 W mom!!! I wish I was raised this way! (My mom and dad aren't really to blame, it was more so the church we were going to was enforcing that. I am still Christian but I did have bad church experiences I just didn't know they were bad at the time)
W MOM
As a Christian, I have never cringed so hard in my life. They massacred Ice Spice's bars😭😭😭
Yes, like what is this 😭😭
Lmaooo That’s Christ Spice
@@Howaboutyes11LMFAOOO HELPP
We need to ban fellow Christians from covering mainstream music ASAP. 😭😭😭
Same
"dancing with my jesus, call me happy feet" got me
as a christian i really liked this video. it didn’t seem overly critical, but you shared your opinions openly. i totally agree that we need more good original christian music
Agreed. I was half expecting this video to just be dogging on Christianity/ Western religion but it felt honest and respectful, separating cringy artists from the whole body of Christian people and their music
the thing that irked me was the take me to church cover. the song about religious trauma and the hate MANY BUT NOT ALL christians mask as love (once again not saying thats you just saying this is often how christans are if you arent raised by a truely kind hearted church or dont learn kind ways)
and hoizer specifically wrote the song to express how religion hurt his country
I believe that's mainly because for one Gabi doesn't really seem like the type of person to do that and because she said in the beginning that she grew up in a Christian and Catholic environment and plus she's also a music artist so she sees this through multiple lenses
I agree, I’m a Christian and I found this video quite entertaining. There needs to be good Christian music for once and not cringey covers of pre existing non religious music.
@@Retronomicon18 fr
Its crazy that these people hear “deal with the devil” and instead of “oh, thats a popular idiom to describe making a distasteful compromise in the hopes the good will outweigh the bad” they instantly think a celebrity is talking about joining the illuminati
Seems like being surrounded by on-the-nose sermons and blatant propaganda their whole life made them incapable of understanding any subtlety.
That would also explain why so many 'christian' movies and other media are as terrible as they are, there's just no room for complex characters or ideas.
the illuminati isn’t even a thing anymore 💀, it was actually a good secret society, unfortunately it disbanded 300 centuries ago, idk how ppl STILL believe that it’s real (at this time) when there’s no evidence.
hand signs / provocative performances ≠ devil worship
it’s giving adult kidz bop 😩
omg this is the best comment
like why is it so true tho 🤣
🤪🤪🤪
TRUE
Adultz bop
Fr
As a Christian if I don’t like a song or don’t like the message it’s sending I just don’t listen to it…. Sure I’ve looked for a Christian version of sailor song because I love the music and tune to that song and wanted to see how others changed it but that’s it. I’m also a huge fan of Conan gray and his song “Found Heaven” there’s a lyric that’s something like “There’s a God in the sky, don’t believe him” do I still listen to Conan? Absolutely! I even listen to that song, because I know my beliefs and a song won’t change that 😊
If only they gave the same energy of never saying Devil to actual slurs😔
Ikr 😔
Fr 😔
I love when they get personally offended at me for "taking the lords name in vain".
Like, homie, it's my eternal soul, if I'm cool with risking True Death, then that's my deal. Irrelevant to you.
Also then they call me slurs and get surprised when it annoys me lol
but some christians don't use slurs? its all down to a person individually lets stop restricting the label of a christian now
@@Jane-oz7pp um now imagine you were using the god of islams name? use it if its not such a big deal to you using the name of a god you dont even serve use the buddhists, hindus,seekists why only christians?
I think another big reason why these Christian song rewrites sound so ridiculous is that, even when you change the lyrics of a song, nothing else has changed about the context of the music. Instrumentals are also hugely inspired by the lyrical content of the song, and vice versa. The genres of pop music that we hear on the radio all have histories and cultural contexts that influence how the beat will sound, what the melody will be like, etc. This is especially obvious for romantic pop and R&B: even if you make the lyrics to be less about sex and more about loving God, we're still listening to a song that was at least partially crafted to sound sexy, or even to accompany sex. Dance music is at specific BPMs at least in part because it was created to be enjoyed in a certain social environment or to evoke specific feelings and ways of movement. Simply changing the subject of the lyrics but not changing anything else about how it sounds is creating a song whose construction no longer has any bearing on the vocals and their message, and that always ends up sounding weird and cringe.
This!!
100% you worded that so well
I’ve heard this described as making a ‘song zombie.’ The shell remains, but whatever made it alive has been stripped out.
Very true
So well said! Before reading your comment, I had a hard time pointing what was wrong, that's why it makes me uncomfortable: Because the song is sexy and you are talking about God, and how virtuous you are. I listened to other modified lyrics of religious remix that were pretty well done because the music can be used for different context like some songs of adele, of light instru.
Also, pretending to be all virtuous on tiktok 😂😂
I once wrote an essay about the problem with Christian media. It’s not just that the message is being spoon fed to the audience but also because they’re literally preaching to the choir.
The only people watching Christian movies are already Christian because they always make the antagonist a “nonbeliever”, and it’s just not relatable to anyone else
Edit: I do want to say I appreciate how respectful she is towards Christians in this, and how they don’t even notice because it’s the culture they grew up in. I was raised Christian so the most secular comedy I was exposed to was veggietales 🙃
Thanks for this I know our religion is a bit pushy on the "believe in god to be saved" but we all know we gotta respect those boundries
You sound full of yourself lmao. Have you ever stopped and considered those movies are aimed at them and are not trying to change your stance.
That’s why Prince of Egypt is the best Christian movie.
If it was a regular Christian movie I doubt it would have portrayed the Pharaoh and his relationship with Moses with such nuance.
@totallybeatable9238 It's redundant and really overplayed not giving new ideas or developing new plots. Which is not relatable at all to anyone since we are always changing as a people every day. It's very much, "I'm holier than thou art." And sadly it's been stuck like that for far to long.
everyone preaches to their own choir. christians are the only ppl who get dragged for it
There's a South Park episode about this.
They take popular songs and replace words like babe with Jesus
As a Catholic I really really agree with your points. Let Christian music be Christian and let other genres be what they want to be. On a side note I also hate it when artists cover a song and change up the lyrics even a little. It takes away the original meaning of the song.
Check out the theme tune to Outlander. It goes on about an English nurse falling through time and getting it on with sexy Scotsmen. The original tune is the Skye Boat Song - it's about the young Prince Charles of Scotland having to be secretly transported to the Isle of Skye, then on to France, so he couldn't be MURDERED by the English crown (in order to gain control of yet another country, which they did, as I'm sure you know). So changing the lyrics to be about some English woman getting her rocks off over a disenfranchised group is... a typically American choice.
My friend's great uncle wrote that song. Now middle aged white women around the world get thirsty when it plays. Fuck's sake.
agreed, though i do assume/hope you'd be okay with leaving out slurs/offensive words.
@@jaxorisit1447 Yes. If the lyrics haven’t aged well then I find it okay. And there is also always the case of an explicit and clean version for songs but they don’t always totally change the meaning
Changing the lyrics can be good sometimes. Like changing pronouns to make a love song more gay is always allowed and good 👍
i don't know, unless they change the song to the opposite meaning of the original, i think changing the lyrics in a cover is fine, since usually its to change the meaning of the song to fit closer to what the person was going for
21:57 "Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making Rock & Roll worst." I'm using that line. There are so many times I needed that line.
rightttt a slogan for the ages
agreed
Literally my first thought.
Leave rock n roll alone.
Me n you are mortal but rock n roll will never di3!!!!!!!!
The one good Christian rock band i know is Skillet, and even then they have some incredibly mediocre and bad songs (Cough Cough, The entire album of Unleashed), and i just can't with John Cooper (their frontman).
bro i love skillet!!!!@@Literally1862
As a Christian, all I have to say is sorry. I swear we’re not all like this ✋😭
agreed
Don't worry buddy, you get a lollipop for not being a miserable human being, keep being you, even us non-believers tend to respect the christians that actually don't force everything to be religious.
@@Nothingtoseehereanyway awe thank you, and as a Christian, I don’t think religions should be forced upon non-believers. Because what I learned, is God gave us free will to decide whether we want to follow him or not. So thank you for understanding lol 🥰
Frr
You're all good! Anybody with a brain knows y'all are very far from all being like this.
next theyre gonna make turn the lights off by tally hall "holy" because of the lyric "cause all good DEVILs masquerade under the light"
It’s crazy how they saw three black artist make songs, stole the art, and then started demonizing the creators, that’s British museum shit
Maybe I'm taking this too seriously but I thought about that too! I have some Christian family and its weird when people seem to only talk about black artists (ofc I know that's not entirely the case but in my experience, rap and other music by black artists seems to be hated on a little more)
Maybe I'm taking this too seriously but I thought about that too! I have some Christian family and its weird when people seem to only talk about black artists (ofc I know that's not entirely the case but in my experience, rap and other music by black artists seems to be hated on a little more)
@@ieatghosts1331 it’s not taking things to serious to acknowledge racism, in fact, it’s racism to not want to acknowledge racism. I find it extremely weird that Gabby left out the massive piece of nuance in the way white people have treated people of color, especially when it comes to stealing art and demonizing it’s original creators.
@@christinewarden3450Tbf, I am old enough to remember entire CDs of this kind of crap and they were changing Britney Spears and NSync. Rap is the most popular category of music right now, and some of the biggest creators are black. But if you dig around you can definitely find them changing white artist's music too.
White Christians have beem doing that to Black music forever: they've declared jazz, blues and rock as satanic.
Speaking as a Christian, a thing about modern Christians that has always annoyed me is our weird need to water down secular media and make it “Christian”. Like if you don’t like the message it’s sharing, simply don’t interact with it; no one is forcing you to listen to Doja Cat. Revamping and sterilizing existing media to make it Jesus friendly just makes you look pretentious and self-congratulating, like “Look how perfect and clever I am, turning this sinful piece of media into worship!! I’m such a good Christian!!”
AGREED
Thank you for this. I may not be religious (grew up Catholic/Ukrainian Orthodox but got away from that stuff), and while I know most Christians are decent people who see certain media and may say "No, I don't like that, it's not for me" before moving on with their lives, the crazy outliers make the rest look bad. It's not clever or cute to "make this un-Christian song their own," it's just cringey.
I don't even care if someone takes a popular song and reinterprets it about Jesus so they can enjoy the tune with lyrics they relate to. It reminds me of what Kidz Bop does. But the smug self-satisfaction these people get when they do it and post it just creeps me out. Like you said, they really do seem to think it makes them holier-than-thou.
They can't abide the fact that not everything caters to them. That not everyone thinks like them. Anything existing that doesn't explicitly service them is immediately a threat.
So same with this Video. Why do people care if someone makes a tiktok about something u cant relate to.
@@yuzuru.u It's not that we care that they make it - look at the one example where her version was clearly a labor of love for both her religious views AND the artist. That's great. The problem is what these videos say about the people making them. They make these videos out of hate. They make these videos out of a pathological need to assimilate everything. They can't stand that something exists that doesn't fit their world view, be it music, culture, or people's personal beliefs.
If you're Christian, that's great. You're free to believe whatever you want, to celebrate your beliefs however you want. But leave the rest of us out of it. People are sick to death of Christians trying to force their views on everyone else, and these kinds of videos, and the motives behind them, are reflective of that attempt to force everyone into being like them.
The one where they say “If SZA made a Christian song” came off as her just combining two things she liked- which is totally fine! That’s the reason it sounded good if you ask me, because there was real passion and appreciation for both.
She also sounded good and had swagger.
Everybody else just forced it so much lol
I'mma be realll honest, SZA's songs were fire as it is, they just ruined it
The other approach that works is if it is just a joke. There are some hilarious deliberate joke versions of these that work well (just as there are funny versions of Christian songs tweaked or just performed as love songs).
Im sorry 1:03 had me dying😂😂😂😂😂 "Is it....this?"
Rewriting take me to church to make it, “more Christian,” is so gross. He wrote it about the harm that the Catholic Church did to Ireland, and to minority groups there like the LGBTQ+ community.
Did he see the video?
Yikes
OH MY GOD! I need to listen to take me to church. I got the message ALL WRONG!
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 Um... mass persecution
@detective2221 If by propaganda, you mean a 4 year degree of world history and cultural/religious studies, then yeah. I'm obsessed with propaganda.
Oh my gosh, this reminds me of the time someone made a cover of “This is Me” from the Greatest Showman- a song about acknowledging your imperfections and loving yourself and being proud of who you are- into “this is He”, which made me cry
Also representative of how Christianity smothers self expression, acceptance and happiness
Nah nah nah- I LOVE THAT SONG BECAUSE I RELATE TO IT BUT WHAT THE HELL
THAT'S NOT EVEN GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT
One commercial I hate uses this song. They took the lyrics and wrote them for a weight loss ad 😭💀
@@retr0tune80 that is a parody of itself
As a Christian myself i don't get why they're so concerned about changing these "unholy" songs and turning them into "gospel".
Instead of taking your sweet time to change these words and serve us cringe why not just write your own song instead.....
you can tell they want those follower count to skyrocket... all while not making an effort on producing said project
I also think some of these people are trying to make it seem like they're oppressed for being Christian 🥴
Probably the bad type of Christians to force religion on others but I'm extremely stupid ways
Sameeee like, ofc not everybody has the same beliefs as us, but, like, let those ppl do what they want!
My biggest question is why listen to a song that will obviously have bad words/explicit content with. As a Christian myself, I reccomended either hearing clean version of songs or don't listen to songs at all with explicit content. It's completely ridiculous. For me, I listen to After Dark x Sweather Weather
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If simply hearing the word “devil” makes you terrified, you give “the devil” SO MUCH power over you. “The devil” thrives on fear, and “God” thrives on love. Being afraid of a word is literally working for the devil.
Well said, can be said about a lot of things the church “fears” (see: hates)
THE POPE HATES HIM!!! SEE HOW THIS SIMPLE ACT TURNS YOU INTO A SAINT IN JUST 2 STEPS!!!
On the wise words of Hermione Granger herself: “Fear of the name only increases fear of the thing itself”
Both don't exist. Relax
@@tomashgrey2211how are u and ur family made then??????
"He's not Voldemort. You can say it."
We stan Gabi in this household
even IF the word “hell” was as detrimental to their faith as what they make it, the fact that they can’t remove/replace the word and have to make the entire song about their faith is so telling
ive been a christian for a very long time, grew up in church and a christian school, etc. and never once in my life have i been this arrogant about my faith. just because we are christian doesnt mean we get the right to negatively criticize art and change it to meet our narrative! crazy concept. also acting like its just ''so much better'' than the og song is so ridiculous. because i bet you money if someone took a normal pop song and made it satanic it would have immense backlash. so how come these people get praised for it? its SUCH a double standard and i genuinely find these people so childish.
I’m not religious. I just haven’t had good experiences from church. I’ve also listen to a lot of Owl City growing up and he’s still one of my top listened artists. There are some more religious Owl City songs, but i don’t mind them. They’re bops and I can still enjoy that. Hearing the word “God” isn’t a trigger word to suddenly become christian. Awesome video, Gabi!
Absolutely love Owl City and the few Christian songs I’ve heard from him we’re actually really good. But finding out him and a few other artists/bands that I grew up listening to were Christian was surprising!
i love Owl City as well!!
Owl City is incredible
Love seeing Adam get the recognition he deserves. As a Christian, his religious based songs are a lot more meaningful to me, but I'm biased.
The thing I most appreciate about what Adam is doing isn't the fact that he's writing songs about what I believe in. It's because he's writing songs about what he believes in. He's honest about his feelings towards God. There are a lot of Christian artists that I don't like, because their songs don't come across as genuine. I think that's the main issue with these covers: they're not heartfelt. They're not coming from a place of honesty.
In a similar vein, there's an artist that I really like who is very open about his religious trauma and how that's affected his life. He is very anti-Christian, and not afraid to speak out against it. I don't agree with him, but I respect him immensely for being honest and vulnerable in his songs. Artists shouldn't be afraid to share personal aspects of their lives in their music, and religion is a really big part of a lot of people's lives, for good or bad reasons.
I grew up in an agnostic household and I'm an atheist, and I love Owl City too! I even went to a concert on the Coco Moon tour recently :)
This reminds me of how people say “they don’t make country like they used to” but ignore the fact that the old country music they like are anti-capitalist and pro union and other socialist ideas like not being exploited by the government and industry for profit. And at the same time they hate unions and are pro exploitation under capitalism thinking they’ll be billionaires one day. It’s really sad an upsetting to see
45 year old southern conservative white women obsessed with The Chicks not realizing that they're massive feminists
it's like the mid-30s white dudes who clearly don't understand what Machine they were supposed to Rage Against.
The nail on the head. Just like Bo's commentary on "Stadium Country", fans of modern "Stadium Country" can be seen as shallow because they just want a good beat and catchy lyrics and honestly that's no harm no foul. It's the country fans that critique modern country as “they don’t make country like they used to” that really scare me because, is that a memory issue? They're just making up the past to fit their ideology.
Toby Keith ruined the landscape of country music and his grave is now a gender-neutral public bathroom
I worked at a church as a bassist in 2017. There was a guy there who had some rough times in life and tried to develop his rap career at the ripe age of 50 and one time during a service, he played Wet Dreamz by J Cole (original version) and decided to rap over it with Christian lyrics. I had to sit on a stage in front of 50 people and not laugh my butt off while this was happening.
You deserve to go to heaven for that.n
omG, I WAS A BASSIST IN CHURCH FOR NEARLY 2O YRS!!!!
Thank you for your comment!
Still loving God but not most of the "christians!!!" 🙄Be well, friend ☺
Automatic pass to heaven
nah ahahha 😂
This makes me sad because it sounds like he was genuinely trying but it also sounds so cringe :(
10:13 OMG that's Anike! Her Christian music is pretty god, I recommend her song "Pray for me"
I do think these remix can get a bit hurtful on very spesific songs that are about religious trauma and just erasing the criticism and expression of religion the original artist had and therefore just erasing and ignoring their pain. I do think this is just a slight possibility since songs like that don't get popular most of the time
Take me to church is about religious trauma in Ireland with the Catholic church, (more specifically being Gay in Ireland under the Catholic church, but you can listen to it without that context), and that was one of the most popular songs in 2014, or Maddie Zahm's music
i grew up in a christian family and i went to a really intense christian school. i genuinely cannot comprehend how some of these people think that forcing things down ur throat will make u wanna join their religion. the only thing it did was make me feel super uncomfortable around christian people, even the ones who are normal unfortunately. like hot diggity dog, calling me an idiot, screaming at me, hitting me, and trying to take advantage of me during bad times in my life is totally gonna make me religious :|
Same
Exactly. Like telling seven year old me that liking 'boyish' things as a girl will make me burn in hell. Having family and members of my local church always asking very young and impressionable me about my sexuality and forcing religion on me just left me with disdain for religion entirely. Not to say that I don't respect religious people, I mean, do whatever the hell you want, but sitting in church makes me uncomfortable.
@@Morgan720-l4y same ,I "idgaf about your religion old lady I just came for my mom " this is a routine for me it's has been lasting 2 years it's exhausting to remember your mom that you don't want to be there (church) and she just don't care about my atheist ass she just wants to reassure that she always will make me obey to her and she is saying my dad it's a bad influence (a me being atheist) I don't even talk with him wtf
tw: rant. exactly, at my school we were even forced to some sort of anti-gay/trans/ace bs thing our "theology class" and of course this was right when i was still recovering from an episode of depression and trying to understand just who i was and i already knew that i was not cis or allo so :( there were entire class periods where i would cry or just leave the paper blank because i just couldn't take it
Hey, as a christian please remember that some “christians” can be very judgmental and rude and it is a huge problem. They go against Gods word thinking they’re doing something for him, when they are doing the opposite. If you want to be christian or not is YOUR CHOICE. it has always been your choice. So please do not let anyone make you feel bad especially when it comes from malicious intent. I want to spread love, and especially to you. Im sorry for those people that have hurt you 💗 You are loved and accepted, always remember that.
I absolutely love how you said there’s more to Christianity than the anime battle between the God and the devil. Seriously couldn’t have said it better.
It doesn't happen very often where I come across a video that actually makes me think differently about something. Great job and thank you!
Love the points you're making in this video. I'm a Christian who generally hates popular Christian media, and I agree with you saying that lots of it is propaganda and not art. So much of christianity in the west has become an echo chamber of bigotry, where everyone has a persecution complex. Sharing the word isn't relational anymore, the way it's modeled by Christ who spent time with people different from his core group of believers. For the modern church, sharing the gospel is a method of gate keeping.
Obeying God is bigotry? crazy.
@@vxbiiiwillfully ignorant
@@vxbiiiyou’re the type of person they’re talking about
The points you and gabi are making are exactly why im not Christian any more they are always saying that if i dont change my ways and be a bigot like most of them it just makes me mad
No, but some forms of bigotry have been hijacked Christian themes and inflitrated Christianity
GIRL "Christ Spice" sennnnnnttttttt me! Quality content. Thank you for your service.
One thing Christians never seem to realize is that they did this. Christianity has been such a dominant force in American culture for so long that things like hell, demons, sinning, aren't just religious artifacts. They're parts of culture that everyone is familiar with. So they get used in art even if the creator has nothing to say about religion.
9:03 that one hurt bro
One thing I've also noticed is that a LOT of these covers are primarily of songs made by LGBTQ and/or minority people. It's never secular music made by white or straight people but these ones are labeled 'unholy' or 'evil' in a way that definitely feels coded.
Yes I had the exact same thought.
Yea, find it kinda funny there’s none of these for Poor Man’s Poison
@@suzanneclark7706 Like,ya'll. If you REALLY want to ruin a song do Hell's Comin' With Me (and this one is totally off topic) Take Me to Church. THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.
@@justanonbinarynerd-ne9ttSome Christian's literally think that Take Me To Church is ALREADY a positively Christian song. These people have NO lyrical literacy. 😭
Really??
Honestly when I found out the oh hellos were actually a gospel band I almost chocked. Their lyrics are SO FUCKING GOOD, beautiful, poetic, authentic! They are complexed and nuanced! and a lot of ppl have so many different interpretations of them, when I found out they were gospel “thus always to tyrants” and “where is your rider” got a whole other layer of meaning. Their recording of “poet,soldier,king” is so beautiful!! Btw I loved that you mentioned good Christian Brazilian songs, we do it so well. If I can make a recommendation, listen to “Anunciação” by Alceu Valença.
Are there any other oh hellos songs you would recommend? I love music with religious themes but Im overwhelmed with where to start with them 😭
@@Billie12208 I would personally recommend Ceaser or Dear Wormwood, from the Dear Wormwood alubm! If your wondering where to start I would start with Through the Deep dark Valley, then working your way up to their most recent album.
i’d say they’re more mythological in general, with some references to both christian and greek myths! nonetheless, they’re a very good band, and what’s even more interesting is their album Eurus and its message to the church about new age religion and allowing things to flow instead of forcing things to be set in older beliefs forever
@@Billie12208EXUNT IS SO GOOD ahhghh
@@Billie12208hey! maybe listen to Cyrus Sonata and IMRSQD. They're really good Christian artists
I saw the comments on the Paint the Town Red cover, they are hilarious, "This shi go hard on mute" "And the crowd goes mild" "She cooked but no one was hungry" and finally "Hidden talent! keep it hidden"
Underoath (were, dropped religion) are a great example of a Christian band that transcended the label of being Christian because their music is so good. I, an atheist, will still sing the “I hope to god” part in Writing on the Walls with my entire chest, I’ve cried to that song because of how personal it is and that’s why they had a number one album and more than one Grammy nominations on top of being one of the most beloved and respected artists of the emo/hardcore scene.
Doja had previously been harassed and accused of selling her soul after showing up to the met in Doja’s Inferno outfit, which was a play on Dante’s Inferno. (Which btw is a WORK OF FICTION.) She was also bashed after getting monster tattoos claiming they were demons, even though they were from a REALLY old book of monsters, which was a work of art. In retaliation, Doja leaned into the devil worshiper idea and used her song and music video to troll those people. Most embarrassing bit is that NONE of them realize she’s being a troll and started freaking out abt it
You can't be warm. It's either cold or hot.(take that as you want.)
@@madix3333are you stupid? You've never heard someone say they are warm. You've never experienced that feeling where you're not hot not cold?
@@madix3333I’m warm rn.
i think they were talking abt her performnaces and the outfits lol
@@madix3333 my hands are as cold as ice but my tummy and legs are melting please send help
As a Christian, THANK YOU! I hate how on the nose so much Christian media is and you perfectly explained what bothers me
It always reminds me of an old joke. A doctor, a vegan, a crossfiter, and an evangelical walk into a bar. How do you know which one is which? Don't worry, they'll tell you in the first two minutes. 😂
@@notreallymyname3736 None of them were bicyclists?
It's kind of like with KidzBop tbh. Like... there are regular songs out there that just don't mention sex, drugs, the devil, and rock'n'roll. If you don't want to listen to those things... just listen to other songs? Instead rewriting, like, Highway to Hell into a Christian pop ballad or something. Although I would like to hear that tbh.
When I was a teenager we didn't have cable, and Trinity Broadcasting Network was the only station I could get reception from on Saturdays so I watched a lot of it, so I know for a fact it IS possible to write Christian music that slaps because jfc the songs in Kids 10 Commandments were great.
@@FrenkTheJoy good call! Adding that to the list going forward.
I’m Christian i agree with you saying lyrics cringe and all cover.
The problem is they often target lgbtq people like hozier and lil nas x , who talk about their experiences
ouugh poor fellers
Is this satire or genuine 😭
@@bumblebee3488 wait is it satire I’m stupid
ppl thought the hozier one is good because mentions of god and church
even though they dodged the sound waves of him actually talking about how the irish suffered from evangelists
@@CheeseThePurpleDragon I'm gonna say it is both true and not, considering they'll go after any song known in the category of 'Unholy'
Gabi you savage!!! I just laughed out louder than ever... a little bit upsetti spaghetti!!!
The pinnacle of silliness RIGHT THERE
6:45 "do they know that just saying the devil's name won't summon him?"
No .... They don't. They literally think he's Voldemort
or beetlejuice 💀
Or Bloody Mary
Or [REDACTED]
Facts.
@CannibalisticFran man, I hated that time [REDACTED] showed up to my house, he's terrifying
I am so glad that someone spoke up about this. People were saying that "If you don't believe in Jesus, you will go to h3ll." I am a Hindu and a Buddhist. I felt like they were forcing me to become that religion and I felt uncomfortable. Another person also forced me to become Muslim, but I had my own beliefs (And still do.) I love all religions but please don't force people just to have a new religion.
How can you be two religions at the same time? (A genuine question, sorry if it’s rude wording!!)
@@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx Its called Omnism and its just like having multiple beliefs but the 2 religions are also related :) Also I love ur pfp
@@1L0V3_CAT5 so a bunch of beliefs that line up with multiple religions! Neat! And thank you, I made it on PicCrew :D
@@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXxBuddhism is more of a philosophy or lifestyle than religion. The gist of it is that desire is the root of all suffering, so you have to control your desires. There are no gods in Buddhism. Hinduism, on the other hand, is a more traditional religion. It is polytheistic (has many gods)
i agree so much, thank you for speaking out on it, its always made me feel uncomfy too
Speaking as metalhead, I definitely agree that most representations of the devil in music are not meant to be taken literally.
Some bands use demonic imagery for no other reason than for shock value. Slayer, for instance, has a lot of over the top lyrics about Satanism, hell, and the devil, yet the guy singing those lyrics (Tom Araya) is actually Christian. They pretty much only wrote that stuff to take advantage of the Satanic panic of the 80’s and try to elevate their status.
Most of the actual “Satanic” metal I’ve come across could more accurately be described as “anti-theistic.” Think Deicide; their music always came across to me more as anti-God than pro-Satan. Some also use Satan for metaphorical reasons, such as Behemoth (their 2014 album “The Satanist” is probably the best example I can think of for using Satanism as a metaphor).
The reason Satan comes up in art and music is, for the most part, because he is a stand in for a lot of powerful themes and messaging. Metal happens to turn to this imagery much more often than other genres because it makes sense with the general vibe that metal has, and with the stories metal musicians prefer to tell with their music. Metal is also very popular among people recovering from and deconstructing negative religious experiences after leaving the faith (i.e. apostates), which explains some of it as well.
Not even satanists actually believe Satan exists. He’s just a metaphor.
Literally Satanism uses Satan as a metaphor for antiestablishment themes of the religion. I used to be laveyan Satanist and yeah, there's no talk of Lucifer. It's all about independent morality, regardless of any post-life consequences
yes. thank u for this! also love behemoth and thank u for understanding what these artists r trying to articulate
FUCKING THANK YOU THIS IS WHAT I THINKING
Not only that, but there are a bunch of Christian metal/metal adjacent bands that exist peacefully in the community just fine without freaking out about their contemporaries’ lyrics and stuff.
As a Christian and a huge Hunger Games fan that Katniss reference had me cringing so hard I think a tore a muscle in my face
As a Christian,
"Brother, euhhhh!!!!"
Oh my god your comment made me see the actual meme 😂😂
Brother euhh, what's that? (coming from a christian)
What's that brother?
i think the "brotha eww" meme was actually a part of a Islamic meeting lmao
@@ebot1944yep it was
did not expect to see gabi belle recommending christian brazilian music on her channel today but i'm definitely not mad
I feel like not being able to hear "unclean" words without becoming upset is irrational and borderline mental illness. I'm not using that term lightly either. We really don't talk enough about how someone's faith can cause extreme paranoia and delusions. People are free to worship but there is a point where it becomes unhealthy.
As someone who grew up Catholic and has OCD, I can vouch for the effect this sort of mentality has on your psyche
Agreed. It can reeeeeeeally damaged your mental well-being
Some people become straight up hyperfixated on their religion to the point it takes over their daily life
yeah i can imagine how believing in an omnipotent being and mental illnesses that include delusions and paranoia would….. not mix well 😭
Yes, it 100% is! It's religious scrupulosity, and while it in itself is not a mental illness itself, if someone is predisposed to anxiety, depression, or OCD it amplifies those things and makes all those mental illnesses worse.
you’re so much nicer in this video than i would’ve been.
sincerely,
a lesbian who went to catholic school for 9 years
I cant believe they actually made a Take me to church cover. This song is really deep and It doesn't even talk about worshiping the devil 💀
Yeah but it’s abt a gay couple. Christians don’t like gay people.
@totallybeatable9238take me to church is about religious trauma... So unless youre the one inflicting the trauma theres nothing to get offended over
@totallybeatable9238it’s about religious trauma if you look at the lyrics and think
@totallybeatable9238Read about why the song was written and the meaning behind it
As a christian, these types of people literally gets on my nerves like no karen, a song saying devil when its not even about the devil is not gonna make them hide under your bed at night
@@sqwurrx LMAAOO are they gonna tickle your toes ? ? 😣😣 o-oh nnnoooo this can ‘ t bbbeee ! ( i ‘ m a Christian as well don ‘ t come at me 😞🙏🏻 this is maaajooorrrr joke . )
as the devil, i prefer to believe i dont hang out under the beds of minors.
oh shit bro, you just said the D word, check under your bed
you ate oml
There gonna ticci my Tobys 🥰@@maz5288
On the topic of christian media, the ol Veggie Tale series comes to mind as one of the good widely loved examples, even though it's often very on the nose with it's religious messaging.
It's not brow beating the audience that they're all sinners that will burn in hell, it's just some silly sentient vegetables having fun and going on adventures plucked out of the myths and stories from the bibles
It's definitely a lot more about being a good person, I remember feeling bad for some characters because they were treated poorly by someone being a b-hole
May I add another? The Prince of Egypt.
It's literally an animation telling the story of Moses (not perfectly acurate but eh), it's a Bible story, there's literally the burning bush scene with God talking to Moses beautifully animated in the movie.
Yet it never feels pushy or overtly religious; in fact, it has beautiful storytelling and religion is just one aspect of it. It's one of my favourite examples of religious media because they're there to tell a story, a story from the Bible but a story nevertheless, and not to push a message. The result is beautiful, from music to visuals, there isn't a single moment of that movie that isn't wonderful.
I feel like if religious art just focused on telling a story, or writing a song, or heck, just praise God earnestly, they would get art that's much greater and more beautiful than what they get by being overly concerned with being Christian and pushing this message that the Devil is bad, God and Jesus are good, and you have to have faith. It's kinda like flattening the whole faith into a 2D caricature, it feels shallow, hollow and devoid of meaning.
@@gabrielabatista6016the prince of egypt is such a beautiful movie that it transcends religion. everyone should watch prince of egypt.
there’s also that funny rumor about it. shrek and prince of egypt were in production at the same time and if someone messed up they’d get sent to work on shrek instead. they called it ‘getting shreked.’ it’s definitely fake but it’s funny so i like to believe it’s true
@@dr.pepperbiggestfanActually, apparently it is true. On an interview one of the animators mentioned it, and "getting shreked" was the nickname the animators themselves gave to the punishment.
It also matches in the timeline, because Shrek started production in '95, plus it was viewed as a low budget production at the time, while Prince of Egypt was the high budget one (I mean, some of the scenes took a long time, I think the sea parting alone took two years?), so they originally thought Shrek was going to fail. Also, apparently some of the side characters were voiced by the animators too. (and I google it, quite a few that I could find were also storyboard artists, so... That one I can't really confirm, but it's plausible)
Also, ridiculously catchy songs.