USS New Jersey is the ship Picard mentions in the TNG episode "Relics" when he says to Scotty, "Constitution class; there's one in the Fleet Museum..."
Did you all notice the musical score of each series and movie was used to introduce each ship, it's a beautiful reminder for all the Trek fans. Star Trek IV The Voyage Home theme was played when the Bird of Prey was shown
0:02 - 0:06 USS Defiant (DS9 theme) 0:26 - 0:40 USS Enterprise-A (TOS theme) 0:51 - 1:26 USS Voyager (VOY theme) - love Seven tearing up recalling her origins over there.
It is deeply impressive how Jack was able to identify all of those ships with their names printed on them with letters the size of football fields! ...but more seriously, absolutely loved this scene. Hell of a lot of heart and reverence. Fan service done right.
I lose it in this scene every time. All of these hero ships, I grew up watching them on the big screen and small screen. This was my era of Star Trek. An era that will...never come again.
Jack was literally me when he was talking about the refit-Constitution, still my favourite design. And I'm glad the A was treated with respect by Starfleet, unlike her immediate predecessor. Also glad they chose to use the 60s-Design for the TOS-Connie instead of the SNW-Version... not that I have anything against the latter (it looks hell of a lot better than its Kelvin-Timeline-equivalent) but the OG is still much closer to my heart.
Actually both designs are canon. If you go back to S1 when Picard visits HQ, the SNW design is projected above. So both are canon. Be curious how they explain that, as if SNW was the predecessor design before it became the Constitution I-class (besides the obvious 25% difference).
Much as the other ships hit the feels, Voyager hits the most. An Intrepid Class Starship designed to replace the Galaxy Class (ironic given the Galaxies are still kicking around) but thrust into the unknown where no one (in the Alpha Quadrant) had gone before
@@liamloxley1222 Watch the episode where Janeway's Admiral mentor talks about Voyager vs the Galaxies. And families were dumped after loss of the Enterprise D and the onset of the second Borg conflict and Dominion War. If I wanted to be technical the Sovereign superseded the galaxies
@@liamloxley1222 At one point Janeway was comparing the difference between Ramsay's Equinox and Voyager... Janeway describes Voyager as being designed for "long-range tactical assignments" and the Equinox as a short-range planet survey ship or something along those lines. So definently not a Galaxy-class replacement
Absolutely touching. Listen to Seven reminiscence of her time on Voyager as being reborn, it took her twenty years to be able to express herself the way she did. "I was reborn....the crew was my family" and followed by her almost tearing up. Excellent clip.
I'd like to think the USS Rio Grande is kept inside the starbase. Famous for being the only runabout to survive seven years of chaos and craziness while stationed at Deep Space Nine.
The idea that he doesnt know Voyager is so weird to me. Its literally one of the most famous ships in the fleet, the sort kids have hanging from their ceiling and do school projects on
I got the impression from how Seven talks about how "it went further than any of those other relics", almost in a kind of defensive way, that even if Voyager's exploits *should* be common legend, maybe in universe it's still eclipsed by the adventures of the Enterprises, Kirk, Picard etc. This is just how I see it, but maybe it's a bit comparable to Voyager's overall place in the meta series in real life. Obviously the main purpose it serves is to give Seven a reason to talk about it though.
Starfleet: "Yup, here are some fine old ships. It's a shame we had to retire the Defiant, Voyager, and a bunch of these "ancient" starships" Also Starfleet: *Still uses Miranda, Excelsior, and Oberth class ships for 200+ years*
They haven’t necessarily ended the Defiant and Intrepid classes, just the uss defiant and the uss voyager, both of which went though extreme stress, and in voyager’s case, was likely disassembled/made unusable reverse engineering its future/borg tech. Plus, all these ships likely do better as moral boosters and historical pieces than risking a random collision against an asteroid in some backwoods section if the galaxy
In real life, the U.S. Navy has the USS Constitution, "Old Ironsides," which was first launched in 1797, as both a museum attraction and a commissioned ship still in use as well.
Picard: [to Scotty, while sat on the constitution class Enterprise bridge holodeck recreation] There’s one in the fleet museum… Now we know that the ship Picard meant was the USS New Jersey
@@erroneouscode I always wondered which ship Picard meant in “relics”. Obviously it wasn’t the 1701 - or the 1701A. Presumably the NJ was retired before she was refit for some reason. I’d love the backstory to that
@@cha02psc Either that or they built a new one just to put in the museum so they could represent that era and tour guides could be like, "This is the type of ship James Kirk captained on his famous five-year mission."
I'm going to assume Jack Crusher had other things going on when Voyager's return was a big deal. Bit like asking a 20 year old today to identify the twin towers from a photograph. Your odds are maybe 50/50, and they get a LOT lower if you only show them one tower individually.
I loved this scene. Was kinda hoping to see the D saucer and E too. Still though, A was freaking awesome to see on screen again! I’m sure the Excelsior was the one in the back but just not mentioned, I saw the bop thought cool, but then to find out it was the Bounty… no way!
Even though the shots were brief, I loved every second of them. Seeing the Enterprise A made me tear up. I grew up with the tos movies so the refit constitution class is a great part of my childhood and even the original constitution class made me happy as Im currently watching TOS for the first time. Voyager was a treat for my parents as that was the first series they ever watched being together. This scene brought so many memories for all of us.
0:51 I cried the happiest of tears upon seeing Voyager again. She was the first hero ship whose journey i watched from tragic start to triumphant finish... 3 times Voyager will always have a special place in my heart 😊🥰
@@Ohalexsimmons Best ship ever designed I reckon. Enterprise E and F are stunning looking warships, but there's something special about the Intrepid class
@@UPPERKEES Guarantee you go back in time and show audiences S1 immediatley following All Good Things and they would hate it. ST fans were rabid back in the 90s and would've torched the studio
@@H99661 no, just no. There is a huge difference between people not willing to accept a different series because of fanboy syndrome and a series that completely goes against the principles of which a show was build. Star Trek is suppose to be uplifting. Showing a positive outlook for the future. We see more drinking, smoking and drug abuse than in most series. Everyone has a trauma to process. Everything is dark and depressing. Not just the setting, also the dialogue. People also tend to lose their heads more as if it's game of thrones. No peaceful means, just cut off the heads. Even a baby... The Orville is what Star Trek was. New Trek is just people from today in star ships, with the still unresolved problems of today.
@@UPPERKEES I wasn't disagreeing with you. It's as you say, the stark difference in tone/attitude would have made audiences just coming off the high of TNG shocked to see how their beloved characters were treated afterwards. At the time, audiences *generally* accepted new series like DS9. It's not a new series that's the problem, it's the underlying philosophy that's changed.
@@H99661 watch any Gene Roddenberry interview or a random TNG episode. Gene fought really hard to keep Star Trek positive as it was. And considering the big success of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, which is respecting this more, we see that people agree. Sure Picard is slightly better now, but let's not set the bar for "great" this low. It's a total disaster.
Ms. Ryan’s long pause, her light drumming of her fingers on the console, that almost magical smile as the wonderful memories of Seven’s time on that ship come rushing back… she never fails to impress me with her acting! Having worked with WW2 aviators, this is precisely what I’ve seen when one of those pilots/crew members is reunited with a plane they once flew on!!!
@@yuna420 I wasn't talking to Ships of the oceans (original comment) I was awnsering to shao19851's reply who talks about the New Jersey which is the original constitution class in the scene.
In '95, I started attending Miss State Univ. The Student Union held a showing for everyone of Voyager S1:E1. On that big screen...long before 4K...it was as close as you could get to perfection. My wife & I dated and got married in this timeline. She got introduced to 'sci-fi'...and she loved Voyager. So many years. So much time. And when I seen this...a tear ran down...everyone has good memories...STV holds a treasured place in both our hearts.
Good to finally see the much talked-about fleet museum, but Voyager? I assume she was retired due to her long trek through the delta quadrant, but a ship that age should still be in service.
They are already retiring the Enterprise F methinks the cosmic dust settled on Voyager long ago. It's been what 22+ years since Voyager returned in 2377?
@@nicksantos43 Yeah, it's amazing what little return on investment they get in the lifespan of these ships. Seems like only Excelsior & Miranda class had any longevity. The Enterprise - E should still be in service to say nothing of the "F".
All those starships and yet it seems Impossible to catch a glimps of the Enterprise E in this series. Loved this scène though. Hoped the crew would hijack the HMS Bounty to fly incognito towards Daystrom.
DS9 was always the red headed stepchild of Trek. Ignored. No love from the studio. But those of us who are DS9 fans are seeing that rectified as more and more people come to see DS9 as the amazing show it is.
I know it's a call back to Relics, but I'm now curious what the story of the U.S.S New Jersey is. Were her exploits as memorable or significant as her museum bunk mates? Or was she the "last" of the original Constitution classes kept intact as a memorial while her sister ships were upgraded and refitted?
Kirks Enterprise (NCC 1701-A) is still one of the best looking. Maybe the best. Got to love the Defiant as well. (You know what the only reason they called it the Defiant is, don't you?)
They were really ahead of the curve design wise back when we first saw her in Star Trek The Motion Picture. She's always been the sexiest looking Enterprise to me. Despite the fact that those movies were my introduction into Trek, I don't think I'm biased at all simply because a lot of people share my opinion.
We've kinda known all along lol. There's no way those shows (reboots) fit into the primary timeline. I'm even still wondering if ST Picard is set in an alternate timeline.
NCC-1701-A still exists and is in the Fleet Museum?? Holy hel, that's good to see! Also nice to see that the HMS Bounty got rescued from the bottom of the San Fran bay.
@@Tigerheart01 There's a screen in an earlier episode labelling the Enterprise-F as "slated for early decommission"... and if there's already an Ent-F, that suggests that the Ent-E has already been out of service for a good while. I'm guessing they're leaving its fate open in case Lower Decks wants to blow it up.
I LOVE this. Def getting this on Blu Ray when it's released. Not really into the 1st or 2nd seasons, but I would probably buy the Blu-Ray just to snag this scene. This scene is like seeing old friends that have been away for years. Theoretical question for all you fans out there. If Starfleet could "gift" you one of these legends, or even just on "extended loan," to explore the stars with, which one would you pick? For me, it would be the New Jersey. Her twin sister, the late pre-refit Enterprise, was my first love. That ship introduced me to the world of Star Trek as a child, although the refit A wouldn't be a terrible consolation prize. Def have a soft spot for the original Constitution class. One hell of a tough bird too. It made two round trips to the 20th century AND came back intact: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" and "Gary Seven." I am firmly in the Constitution class camp too, Jack.
I'd go with the refit Enterprise. First introduced to her at around age 5 (that would have been when TMP was released), I was awestruck. Have been ever since.
My introduction to star trek isn't there. It's probably still laying on Veridian 3. So I'd have to go with my second pick, Enterprise A. I loved the original Constitution class, but I loved the refit look just a tad more with the angled out nacelles, that blue deflector, and just the simple elegance of her lines.
Amazing show. If they do decide to make a spin off, I would like to see the part where the borg allies that is guarding the transwarp gate in the alpha quadrant.
still confused a bit back the TNG episode "relics" Picard tells Scotty that there is a constitution class at the fleet museum, but not the 1701-A . was the enterprise A still in limited service in the 2360s?
Dont forget the -A was heavily damaged during the Khitomer battle. It was due to be put in mothballs. As a result, they probably did not want to put a lot of effort in fixing it up given the situation of the peace treaty terms. If I recall the treaty stipulated the maximum size of the fleet in regards to capital ships. The Excelsiors were the newest capital ship and the Constitutions were to be replaced. As a result they had a lot of them laying around.
That's not actually what Picard said. Yes, he did say there was a Constitution-class ship in the Fleet Museum, but he never said there wasn't an Enterprise on display, and definitely never said the NCC-1701-A wasn't.
Constitution class and constitution refit class. Which the A is the later, The one Scotty and Picard are talking about (being on the holodeck with the constitution class "No bloody A, B, C or D") So Picard was talking about the New Jersey as the original Enterprise was lost in Star Trek 3.
Love the use of the musical cues, DS9 theme, Voyager theme, the theme from the TOS, and theme from the voyage home, I know it’s fan service but it actually gave them a way in moving the plot a long. Loving this season so far.
Have to think, in that timeline voyager returns home many, many years later. The area on earth may not have been a option. It also didn’t have the decades to become the ship crossing the galaxy to come home that may have earned it more prestigious location. Not to mention the technology, in the original timeline they would have had those years to transmit technology specifications back to Starfleet so never needed to be stripped down on return, the new timeline handed them a treasure trove of technology that could be studied directly. After that I may have been in no condition to do a planetary landing.
That was another timeline. If Voyager had actually stayed in the Delta Quadrant for 30+ years, it would've earned it's place as it's own museum for the sheer fact that it survived that long without any maintenance from a Starbase.
I always imagined that the fleet museum was on earth. A huge place where all the ships are gathered in the same place, I agree that it feels like this is more logical to have all the ships in space but it would still be cool if starfleet had a museum like that on earth instead.
Picard does not make sense in so many ways... It absolutly makes zero sense for the fleet museum to not be at least in sector 001. If not on Earth - why not in anywhere in the solar system? God, where is the logic in that to put a MUSEUM somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, so nobody can visit it?! Also time and distances are just fked up in Picard. I'd assume the top secret starfleet facility as Daystrom Station is somewhere - out of reach. Totally makes sense if you want to hide something. Still Picad and the gang manage to go from Daystrom to the Museum, waste a lot of time with chatting his old crew, installing a cloacking device and get back to Daystrom what it looks like less than an hour. So the travel must be like - 5 minutes? Do they have the museum in the same system as the top secret starfeelt base? just does not make sense.
@@tamasvago87 you do know warp speed only gets faster as time goes on. It is a big reason to why warp speed in the future discovery is faster than thr same number warp speed in picard, since although they don't use warp 10 due to the risks, they instead just changed the scaling, so instead of asking for warp 9.9997 it would be warp 8 or something. And with Picard, there have been tons of scientific advances since tng, Voyager etc alot because of them, so most ships would be fitted with a faster warp drive, especially exploration based vessels like thr Titain A
@@mastere6115 That is just a poor explanation.. According to ST technical manual warp 9.99 7,912 times the speed of light. So that is still less than 1 LY per hour. Even if we assume technology improved multiple times still makes no sense. Average systems are multiple lightyears apart. Especially claiming that warp is infinite - Trek has introduced transwarp because infinite warp does not make sense (and let's forget the sad warp 10 episode of Voyager :D ). Even more that Picard in the previous season Rios used transwarp, so it's clear that Starfleet developed this tech... This is just lazy writing, nothing else. Just like when they reached the border of the federation while Shaw was sleeping...
All I can think for the Defiant is that it’s effectively a stand-in for the first Defiant, the most famous ship from the Dominion War. Having this Defiant here is a way of representing the Dominion War in the museum. Voyager, though, was battered and way out of Starfleet specifications by the time it got back to the Alpha Quadrant. Plus, the ship was the Federation’s symbol for more first contacts than any other since Kirk, and combined with its crew surviving seven years without Starfleet assistance or dry dock, but still upholding Federation ideals, made it a very important historical ship. Janeway’s comment in Endgame that it became a museum in the Presidio upon return to Earth makes it sound like it was a highly regarded ship not only by Starfleet, but also by Federation citizens. Only difference here is that the museum is in space as opposed to the Presidio, but the ship still became a museum.
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The way Jeri Ryan delivers that memorable speech about Voyager was absolutely perfect. Coupled with the music and the whole scene was just amazing.
@Frumentarii either you trolling or you got serious issues to react that way get a grip my friend
Lol
What made these scene even better was when each ship was shown, the corresponding series theme song changed to match. Loved that attention to detail!
Even The Voyage Home theme which really got me! Never thought I’d hear from that score again.
Absolutely perfect: the choices of ships, the plot references, the musical cues . . . all of it.
“Yep…I’m definitely a Constitution Class man!”
Scoring bonus points, Jack! 🤣
USS New Jersey is the ship Picard mentions in the TNG episode "Relics" when he says to Scotty, "Constitution class; there's one in the Fleet Museum..."
Adding a little bit of the musical cues to each ship is a really nice touch. Boy, the showrunners of this season are really hitting on all cylinders.
USS Defiant didn't get the love it deserved. That ship literally saved the Alpha Quadrant from the Dominion.
tough little ship
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Did you all notice the musical score of each series and movie was used to introduce each ship, it's a beautiful reminder for all the Trek fans. Star Trek IV The Voyage Home theme was played when the Bird of Prey was shown
0:02 - 0:06 USS Defiant (DS9 theme)
0:26 - 0:40 USS Enterprise-A (TOS theme)
0:51 - 1:26 USS Voyager (VOY theme) - love Seven tearing up recalling her origins over there.
2:12 - 2:17 HMS Bounty (STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME theme)
What theme was playing during the "stars in the same galaxy with light years between us" exchange? It's beautiful.
0:11. It's the USS Ben Sisko's Motherfuckin' Pimp Hand :D
When Voyager came on screen and you can hear the Voyager theme song softly playing in the background.....so awesome.
They had DS9s theme for defiant and the OG for Kirks Enterprise too. It's all well put together
"Keep a docking port open for us" good to finally see starfleet honoring that request
Constitution refit still looks as good as when it was first unveiled in 1979.
And now in 2023, 44 years later she is on our screens yet again. They really don't design starships like that anymore.
THIS is simply the best scene from the entire "Picard" series without question.
This was so nostalgic and wonderful! Nice to hear those signature cues (even Star Trek IV!). :)
I was expecting to see the torpedo damage General chang laid on her with his bird of prey
I luv this scene. The nostalgia. The starships. The music. Seven opening up.
Even the theme from Star Trek IV briefly plays for the Bounty.
It is deeply impressive how Jack was able to identify all of those ships with their names printed on them with letters the size of football fields!
...but more seriously, absolutely loved this scene. Hell of a lot of heart and reverence. Fan service done right.
I lose it in this scene every time. All of these hero ships, I grew up watching them on the big screen and small screen. This was my era of Star Trek. An era that will...never come again.
Jack was literally me when he was talking about the refit-Constitution, still my favourite design. And I'm glad the A was treated with respect by Starfleet, unlike her immediate predecessor.
Also glad they chose to use the 60s-Design for the TOS-Connie instead of the SNW-Version... not that I have anything against the latter (it looks hell of a lot better than its Kelvin-Timeline-equivalent) but the OG is still much closer to my heart.
Actually both designs are canon. If you go back to S1 when Picard visits HQ, the SNW design is projected above.
So both are canon. Be curious how they explain that, as if SNW was the predecessor design before it became the Constitution I-class (besides the obvious 25% difference).
@@halygoslive8302 Not only the designs are different, as far as I know the SNW-Enterprise is also much larger.
@@kuribayashi84 Indeed it is, sadly some will kill you for daring to mention or question it.
Was not expecting this. Great episode, glad we were able to see these ships again. The Voyager scene had me 😵🥺
Hearing Jack swoon over the 1701-A brought a tear to this old Trekkie's eye. I'm a Constitution man myself :)
Seeing the E-A still in tact was enough to bring a tear to my eye. It survived the test of time.
I was hoping to see a Galaxy class but boy I sure love those Klingon bird of preys.
Same here.
@@martinez1701a do I have news for you
Voyager looks stunning. Almost like they integrated the future armor technology into the main hull.
They could deploy that at will, so presumably it's not deployed. In any case, they probably took it out, rather than risk it being heisted.
Much as the other ships hit the feels, Voyager hits the most. An Intrepid Class Starship designed to replace the Galaxy Class (ironic given the Galaxies are still kicking around) but thrust into the unknown where no one (in the Alpha Quadrant) had gone before
@@liamloxley1222 Watch the episode where Janeway's Admiral mentor talks about Voyager vs the Galaxies. And families were dumped after loss of the Enterprise D and the onset of the second Borg conflict and Dominion War. If I wanted to be technical the Sovereign superseded the galaxies
@@liamloxley1222 At one point Janeway was comparing the difference between Ramsay's Equinox and Voyager... Janeway describes Voyager as being designed for "long-range tactical assignments" and the Equinox as a short-range planet survey ship or something along those lines. So definently not a Galaxy-class replacement
@@liamloxley1222 Not quite. The Sovereigns were designed with a more tactical focus, but they were still equipped for exploration.
only one word... Perfection... all these sounds... all these thoughts... all these time... THANK YOU Star Trek... every minute... it was worth
The cgi is on point on voyager. She looks so good.
@Righteous Pursuit yeah I thought that but the hull of the ship looked amazing
Ah Voyager It's so nice to see her after all this years. She was my first Star Trek.
I loved how the Voyager theme played in the background while Seven talked about the ship.
My first were the first 6 movies but Voyager was my first series.
Same lol
Absolutely touching. Listen to Seven reminiscence of her time on Voyager as being reborn, it took her twenty years to be able to express herself the way she did. "I was reborn....the crew was my family" and followed by her almost tearing up. Excellent clip.
0:53 There’s coffee in that starship.
I'd like to think the USS Rio Grande is kept inside the starbase. Famous for being the only runabout to survive seven years of chaos and craziness while stationed at Deep Space Nine.
OG pimp hand before the defiant
WHALE SHIP! I know the rest were awesome, but come on man, SF BAY Whale Time Traveling Ship is amazing, and the beauty is STILL helping them.
The idea that he doesnt know Voyager is so weird to me. Its literally one of the most famous ships in the fleet, the sort kids have hanging from their ceiling and do school projects on
yeah, he was hanging around starfleet 20 years ago. Dunno how that never passed his ear through the grapevine.
I got the impression from how Seven talks about how "it went further than any of those other relics", almost in a kind of defensive way, that even if Voyager's exploits *should* be common legend, maybe in universe it's still eclipsed by the adventures of the Enterprises, Kirk, Picard etc. This is just how I see it, but maybe it's a bit comparable to Voyager's overall place in the meta series in real life.
Obviously the main purpose it serves is to give Seven a reason to talk about it though.
Perhaps he knew but wanted her to tell the story.
Damn right in the feels the Defiant retired along with voyager but they defiantly earned it.
If Worf was there he would have suggested taking the ship
Dont forget that is the Sao Palo not the OG Defiant
yep no cloak on the defiant
Starfleet: "Yup, here are some fine old ships. It's a shame we had to retire the Defiant, Voyager, and a bunch of these "ancient" starships"
Also Starfleet: *Still uses Miranda, Excelsior, and Oberth class ships for 200+ years*
They haven’t necessarily ended the Defiant and Intrepid classes, just the uss defiant and the uss voyager, both of which went though extreme stress, and in voyager’s case, was likely disassembled/made unusable reverse engineering its future/borg tech. Plus, all these ships likely do better as moral boosters and historical pieces than risking a random collision against an asteroid in some backwoods section if the galaxy
they didn't retire the class of ships they just retired these obviously heroic ships for posterity. have you heard of a museum before lol
In real life, the U.S. Navy has the USS Constitution, "Old Ironsides," which was first launched in 1797, as both a museum attraction and a commissioned ship still in use as well.
Admit it! You all squealed at this! Don’t deny it! You all squealed!!
Picard: [to Scotty, while sat on the constitution class Enterprise bridge holodeck recreation] There’s one in the fleet museum…
Now we know that the ship Picard meant was the USS New Jersey
Thank you. I've spent the last two hours rattling my brain trying to figure out where USS New Jersey fit in
@@erroneouscode I always wondered which ship Picard meant in “relics”. Obviously it wasn’t the 1701 - or the 1701A. Presumably the NJ was retired before she was refit for some reason. I’d love the backstory to that
@@cha02psc Either that or they built a new one just to put in the museum so they could represent that era and tour guides could be like, "This is the type of ship James Kirk captained on his famous five-year mission."
Probably the last Constitution built.
@@lawrencegreenwood2646 would make sense with the NCC-1975 registry. Then the next generation hulls start with NX-2000
I'd give a lot to tour every one of those ships.
🥹🥹🥹 Seven talking about Voyager. Surreal.
come on voyager would be famous and taught in the history books at any star fleet academy, it should be instantly reconcilable as kirks enterprise
I'm going to assume Jack Crusher had other things going on when Voyager's return was a big deal.
Bit like asking a 20 year old today to identify the twin towers from a photograph. Your odds are maybe 50/50, and they get a LOT lower if you only show them one tower individually.
My jaw dropped when Voyager was shown...
Would be nice to see more of the DS9 and Voyager crews.
Oh to see her in action one more time along with the defiant. The good ole days..
i love how voyagers theme sneaks in there, it would be nice to see janeway and tuvok, a do over show up for the last time.
All the respective themes played when each different ship was on screen.
Hopefully they kept a steaming pot of coffee on the ready room desk on Voyager
This was great even if it made me start to feel like I belong in a museum now.
Wow... the years have been kind to Ms. Ryan! The decades just make her look more formidable.
We need a Star Trek: Janeway!
USS Bounty, Klingon Bird of Prey. Nice mention of Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home
I loved this scene. Was kinda hoping to see the D saucer and E too. Still though, A was freaking awesome to see on screen again! I’m sure the Excelsior was the one in the back but just not mentioned, I saw the bop thought cool, but then to find out it was the Bounty… no way!
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Even though the shots were brief, I loved every second of them. Seeing the Enterprise A made me tear up. I grew up with the tos movies so the refit constitution class is a great part of my childhood and even the original constitution class made me happy as Im currently watching TOS for the first time. Voyager was a treat for my parents as that was the first series they ever watched being together. This scene brought so many memories for all of us.
I made my girlfriend watch season 3 of Picard with me because it’s so good.
“I was reborn there”, simple but profound nod to her character and the Voyager incarnation of Star Trek.
0:51 I cried the happiest of tears upon seeing Voyager again.
She was the first hero ship whose journey i watched from tragic start to triumphant finish... 3 times
Voyager will always have a special place in my heart 😊🥰
The NCC-74656 USS Voyager and Seven of Nine, between them they both posess absolute timeless beauty.
my god I haven't watched season 3 yet and I'm already bawling
0:54 God its good to see you again old faithful
Right!? She looks goooood.
@@Ohalexsimmons Best ship ever designed I reckon. Enterprise E and F are stunning looking warships, but there's something special about the Intrepid class
Sure wish there was room for Archer's Enterprise in that clip...
They don't talk about it (I wish they did too) but it is there in one of the shots, it's the refit version.
There is an NX-refit at the museum but I did not see any plain ol NX's
@@RatchildUK Agree...I have a soft spot for Enterprise, like I do for Andrew Garfield's Spiderman, and Brandon Routh's Superman...you get the picture
This scene had more emotion than all Discovery seasons combined.
Doesn't make it up for the terrible writing and story telling. It's still destroying the TNG legacy with this dystopian mess.
@@UPPERKEES Guarantee you go back in time and show audiences S1 immediatley following All Good Things and they would hate it. ST fans were rabid back in the 90s and would've torched the studio
@@H99661 no, just no. There is a huge difference between people not willing to accept a different series because of fanboy syndrome and a series that completely goes against the principles of which a show was build.
Star Trek is suppose to be uplifting. Showing a positive outlook for the future. We see more drinking, smoking and drug abuse than in most series. Everyone has a trauma to process. Everything is dark and depressing. Not just the setting, also the dialogue. People also tend to lose their heads more as if it's game of thrones. No peaceful means, just cut off the heads. Even a baby...
The Orville is what Star Trek was. New Trek is just people from today in star ships, with the still unresolved problems of today.
@@UPPERKEES I wasn't disagreeing with you. It's as you say, the stark difference in tone/attitude would have made audiences just coming off the high of TNG shocked to see how their beloved characters were treated afterwards. At the time, audiences *generally* accepted new series like DS9. It's not a new series that's the problem, it's the underlying philosophy that's changed.
@@H99661 watch any Gene Roddenberry interview or a random TNG episode. Gene fought really hard to keep Star Trek positive as it was. And considering the big success of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, which is respecting this more, we see that people agree. Sure Picard is slightly better now, but let's not set the bar for "great" this low. It's a total disaster.
She is a beauty !!🥺
Ms. Ryan’s long pause, her light drumming of her fingers on the console, that almost magical smile as the wonderful memories of Seven’s time on that ship come rushing back… she never fails to impress me with her acting! Having worked with WW2 aviators, this is precisely what I’ve seen when one of those pilots/crew members is reunited with a plane they once flew on!!!
Scotty said it best in STNG Relics: "You never forget your first love..."
ALL THE FEELS ALL OF THEM
Those musical cues .....
Would like to have seen a closeup of the Enterprise NX.01 refit.
Yeah, don’t know why it had New Jersey. Should just be all the ship from the series, and their themes.
@@shao19851 Because the original enterprise was destroyed. Crash landed in Star Trek III after the self destruct.
@@tjeerdtrekkie1030 He was referring to the NX-01 Enterprise from the Enterprise series.
@@yuna420 I wasn't talking to Ships of the oceans (original comment) I was awnsering to shao19851's reply who talks about the New Jersey which is the original constitution class in the scene.
I was very surprised to see the HMS Bounty, Bird of Prey along with a hint of ST4:TVH theme.
They must have had it sitting in a giant container of rice to dry it out 🍚
In '95, I started attending Miss State Univ. The Student Union held a showing for everyone of Voyager S1:E1. On that big screen...long before 4K...it was as close as you could get to perfection. My wife & I dated and got married in this timeline. She got introduced to 'sci-fi'...and she loved Voyager. So many years. So much time. And when I seen this...a tear ran down...everyone has good memories...STV holds a treasured place in both our hearts.
Except Neelix.
Good to finally see the much talked-about fleet museum, but Voyager? I assume she was retired due to her long trek through the delta quadrant, but a ship that age should still be in service.
Pretty sure it was decommissioned and put in a museum as soon as it returned in the novels.
Voyager? That was two Voyagers ago, mate.
They are already retiring the Enterprise F methinks the cosmic dust settled on Voyager long ago. It's been what 22+ years since Voyager returned in 2377?
@@nicksantos43 Yeah, it's amazing what little return on investment they get in the lifespan of these ships. Seems like only Excelsior & Miranda class had any longevity. The Enterprise - E should still be in service to say nothing of the "F".
@@sethzwicker3631 The E was destroyed/wrecked in 2384 by the living construct in Star Trek: Prodigy episode Supernova, Part 2.
All those starships and yet it seems Impossible to catch a glimps of the Enterprise E in this series. Loved this scène though. Hoped the crew would hijack the HMS Bounty to fly incognito towards Daystrom.
Thr sad part is I bet most if not all of the Voyager cast would have appeared in this if asked.
As would DS9's peeps. Ezri Dax as head counselor on the Titan would be fun. :)
Probably not Beltran.
You know Voyager really gets a lot more love than DS9 lol we get Seven on Picard and Janeway & Chakotay on Prodigy.
Sisko coming back for sure
DS9 was always the red headed stepchild of Trek. Ignored. No love from the studio. But those of us who are DS9 fans are seeing that rectified as more and more people come to see DS9 as the amazing show it is.
I know it's a call back to Relics, but I'm now curious what the story of the U.S.S New Jersey is. Were her exploits as memorable or significant as her museum bunk mates? Or was she the "last" of the original Constitution classes kept intact as a memorial while her sister ships were upgraded and refitted?
Literally was named for the place where Terry Matalas was born and the year (1979).
@@halygoslive8302 Neat.
@@halygoslive8302 1975.
A wonderful scene, full of heart. Special mention earnt for a wonderful musical score that seamlessly relates to each ship in turn.
0:25 hello there old friend
Damn it Seven, why did you have to short my optical implant.
Perfect episode
Jeri Ryan is a fantastic actress.
So much better now than in Voyager. Experience plus better writing.
Finally Star Trek is back to tracks.
Those museum ships have to be more than just fan service, I hope Picard and his allies should used some of them to save the Federation.
I mean the Bounty became key to the episode.
Remember hanger 12 is still there.
I bet the bounty was used to secretly research cloaking technology.
"out there thataway"
"There's one in the fleet museum"
(USS New Jersey)
"She's a beauty for certain"
"My friend's, we've come home"
Jack likes the Connie he’s cool with me
Kirks Enterprise (NCC 1701-A) is still one of the best looking. Maybe the best.
Got to love the Defiant as well.
(You know what the only reason they called it the Defiant is, don't you?)
They were really ahead of the curve design wise back when we first saw her in Star Trek The Motion Picture. She's always been the sexiest looking Enterprise to me. Despite the fact that those movies were my introduction into Trek, I don't think I'm biased at all simply because a lot of people share my opinion.
Great episode, I hope another show touches on the Fleet Museum, what a fascinating place.
An original constitution class ship, now we know that the SNW Enterprise and Discovery are in a different timeline/reality lol.
We've kinda known all along lol. There's no way those shows (reboots) fit into the primary timeline. I'm even still wondering if ST Picard is set in an alternate timeline.
NCC-1701-A still exists and is in the Fleet Museum?? Holy hel, that's good to see! Also nice to see that the HMS Bounty got rescued from the bottom of the San Fran bay.
Yeah and there was even the NX-01 Enterprise with the engineering hull which was suppose to be in the final season of Star Trek Enterprise.
I predicted NCC-1701A was a museum ship along time ago
Voyager
Glad to see they repaired the Enterprise-A and gave it the respect she deserves. So where's the Enterprise-E?
Probably still on Duty with a new captain and crew. Ship is only 30 years old by this point.
Probably destroyed. That tends to happen to ships named Enterprise.
@@dixievfd55 That’s what I was thinking too. Unfortunately we will probably never know just like we never knew the fate of the Enterprise-B.
@@Tigerheart01 There's a screen in an earlier episode labelling the Enterprise-F as "slated for early decommission"... and if there's already an Ent-F, that suggests that the Ent-E has already been out of service for a good while. I'm guessing they're leaving its fate open in case Lower Decks wants to blow it up.
No one knows the fate of the E. Just that it was replaced with a short lived F.
I LOVE this. Def getting this on Blu Ray when it's released. Not really into the 1st or 2nd seasons, but I would probably buy the Blu-Ray just to snag this scene. This scene is like seeing old friends that have been away for years. Theoretical question for all you fans out there. If Starfleet could "gift" you one of these legends, or even just on "extended loan," to explore the stars with, which one would you pick? For me, it would be the New Jersey. Her twin sister, the late pre-refit Enterprise, was my first love. That ship introduced me to the world of Star Trek as a child, although the refit A wouldn't be a terrible consolation prize. Def have a soft spot for the original Constitution class. One hell of a tough bird too. It made two round trips to the 20th century AND came back intact: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" and "Gary Seven." I am firmly in the Constitution class camp too, Jack.
I'd go with the refit Enterprise. First introduced to her at around age 5 (that would have been when TMP was released), I was awestruck. Have been ever since.
My introduction to star trek isn't there. It's probably still laying on Veridian 3. So I'd have to go with my second pick, Enterprise A. I loved the original Constitution class, but I loved the refit look just a tad more with the angled out nacelles, that blue deflector, and just the simple elegance of her lines.
Were is Sulu excelsior. Is the enterprise d there as well.
The enterprise d was destroyed in st. Generations
@@timothygaskins1383 Saucer was on the planet. Geordie daughter was about to say what about the ship in part something. Maybe he rebuild it.
It’s there. There’s an Excelsior class ship parked and the end credits seem to indicate that it’s NCC-2000.
@@Shadowfax-1980 Good. Wonder what the new defiant looks like.
If you look to the right of the buttons Seven presses to bring up, one of them does look like a Galaxy class
I would like to know what ship is in hangar 18.
Enterprise D!
Amazing show. If they do decide to make a spin off, I would like to see the part where the borg allies that is guarding the transwarp gate in the alpha quadrant.
still confused a bit back the TNG episode "relics" Picard tells Scotty that there is a constitution class at the fleet museum, but not the 1701-A . was the enterprise A still in limited service in the 2360s?
Scotty mentioned about the Enterprise being in mothballs so possibly between 23rd century and this episode it was museum transferred?
Dont forget the -A was heavily damaged during the Khitomer battle. It was due to be put in mothballs. As a result, they probably did not want to put a lot of effort in fixing it up given the situation of the peace treaty terms. If I recall the treaty stipulated the maximum size of the fleet in regards to capital ships. The Excelsiors were the newest capital ship and the Constitutions were to be replaced. As a result they had a lot of them laying around.
That's not actually what Picard said. Yes, he did say there was a Constitution-class ship in the Fleet Museum, but he never said there wasn't an Enterprise on display, and definitely never said the NCC-1701-A wasn't.
Constitution class and constitution refit class. Which the A is the later, The one Scotty and Picard are talking about (being on the holodeck with the constitution class "No bloody A, B, C or D") So Picard was talking about the New Jersey as the original Enterprise was lost in Star Trek 3.
The New Jersey is right there?
I wish the scaling was better. They made all the ships look like they were all the same size.
I think the defiant looked too big
To be fair, the Defiant has *never* had consistent scaling.
To be fair all except the Defiant and Bounty in this scene were the same size.
The observation rings around them were of different sizes like the ships.
I was hoping for the backstory for the New Jersey, and a day later there is one. I love it.
What’s the backstory?
@@rgood2056 supposedly it was the last constitution class starship of that design.
Admiral Janeway. Report to Picard Season 3. Now.
YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love the use of the musical cues, DS9 theme, Voyager theme, the theme from the TOS, and theme from the voyage home, I know it’s fan service but it actually gave them a way in moving the plot a long. Loving this season so far.
its wierd to see voyager there, since janeway claimed voyager was a museum on earth in the last episode of voyager.
I attribute it to the future being changed when Janeway traveled to the past to get Voyager home early.
It was probably in the Fleet museum for a time before being moved to Earth.
Have to think, in that timeline voyager returns home many, many years later. The area on earth may not have been a option. It also didn’t have the decades to become the ship crossing the galaxy to come home that may have earned it more prestigious location. Not to mention the technology, in the original timeline they would have had those years to transmit technology specifications back to Starfleet so never needed to be stripped down on return, the new timeline handed them a treasure trove of technology that could be studied directly. After that I may have been in no condition to do a planetary landing.
That was another timeline. If Voyager had actually stayed in the Delta Quadrant for 30+ years, it would've earned it's place as it's own museum for the sheer fact that it survived that long without any maintenance from a Starbase.
Talks to seven but doesn't know the Voyager. He should have apologized profusely for not knowing. Lol
I always imagined that the fleet museum was on earth. A huge place where all the ships are gathered in the same place, I agree that it feels like this is more logical to have all the ships in space but it would still be cool if starfleet had a museum like that on earth instead.
Picard does not make sense in so many ways... It absolutly makes zero sense for the fleet museum to not be at least in sector 001. If not on Earth - why not in anywhere in the solar system? God, where is the logic in that to put a MUSEUM somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, so nobody can visit it?!
Also time and distances are just fked up in Picard. I'd assume the top secret starfleet facility as Daystrom Station is somewhere - out of reach. Totally makes sense if you want to hide something. Still Picad and the gang manage to go from Daystrom to the Museum, waste a lot of time with chatting his old crew, installing a cloacking device and get back to Daystrom what it looks like less than an hour. So the travel must be like - 5 minutes? Do they have the museum in the same system as the top secret starfeelt base?
just does not make sense.
@@tamasvago87 The titan can go warp 9.99. Given how often Earth is attacked putting a Museum there would be risky.
@@tamasvago87 you do know warp speed only gets faster as time goes on. It is a big reason to why warp speed in the future discovery is faster than thr same number warp speed in picard, since although they don't use warp 10 due to the risks, they instead just changed the scaling, so instead of asking for warp 9.9997 it would be warp 8 or something.
And with Picard, there have been tons of scientific advances since tng, Voyager etc alot because of them, so most ships would be fitted with a faster warp drive, especially exploration based vessels like thr Titain A
@@mastere6115 That is just a poor explanation.. According to ST technical manual warp 9.99 7,912 times the speed of light. So that is still less than 1 LY per hour. Even if we assume technology improved multiple times still makes no sense. Average systems are multiple lightyears apart. Especially claiming that warp is infinite - Trek has introduced transwarp because infinite warp does not make sense (and let's forget the sad warp 10 episode of Voyager :D ). Even more that Picard in the previous season Rios used transwarp, so it's clear that Starfleet developed this tech...
This is just lazy writing, nothing else. Just like when they reached the border of the federation while Shaw was sleeping...
Surprised the NX-01 wasn't sitting around.
There was an NX refit in the background. Possibly the NX-01, or a reproduction.
Apparently it’s there but in its refit reconfiguration if season 5 went into production
There is an NX refit in the background, presumably meant to be UES Enterprise.
USS Defiant and Voyager should still be in service. Meanwhile 100+ Year old Miranda's and Excelsiors are still flying around?!?
Rite smh
Could be replicas. The original Defiant was destroyed though.
All I can think for the Defiant is that it’s effectively a stand-in for the first Defiant, the most famous ship from the Dominion War. Having this Defiant here is a way of representing the Dominion War in the museum.
Voyager, though, was battered and way out of Starfleet specifications by the time it got back to the Alpha Quadrant. Plus, the ship was the Federation’s symbol for more first contacts than any other since Kirk, and combined with its crew surviving seven years without Starfleet assistance or dry dock, but still upholding Federation ideals, made it a very important historical ship. Janeway’s comment in Endgame that it became a museum in the Presidio upon return to Earth makes it sound like it was a highly regarded ship not only by Starfleet, but also by Federation citizens. Only difference here is that the museum is in space as opposed to the Presidio, but the ship still became a museum.
@@nairda38 great points. Thx
Yup. My thoughts exactly. They went for fan service rather than precedent.