Marx Long Distance Windup Motor - V2
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- This is a demonstration of Version #2 of the Marx Long Distance Windup Motor. Changes from V1 include custom made sideplates, two mainsprings, two ratchets, and two 1st intermediate shafts, plus this version uses the die-cast 17 spoke drive wheels that are common to the later Marx windup motors. Version #2 is capable of pulling a 3 car train for 15+ laps around my layout, about 280'.
Wow! What a machine!!! You never cease to amaze me...
I’ve got a train show coming up next weekend, and although I can’t (at least at the moment) repair clockwork trains, you bet I’m going to be looking for some. I have only one working clockwork Marx, and a grand total of 3 defunct ones. Of these 3, one was a complete parts engine I accidentally overpayed on, one I bought for about $10 at an antique store, which had a broken ratchet and a missing wheel (I salvaged a wheel from the parts Loco, and ultimately if I can do it, I’ll replace the ratchet with the one from that Loco, as well) . The last, is a 400 (with puffer fixtures), which has an essentially trashed shell, and a motor that sadly doesn’t run, but is in good enough condition that, so long as one had the skill and equipments, it would easily be worth getting going again.
Im hoping that I find one with a working mechanism at the show, because I’m still too afraid to try to split the frames on any of mine. I don’t have riveting equipment, wheel pullers, or wheel presses, so perhaps this is also a sensible mindset, considering these locos are definitely worth getting going again.
How much electrical power do you think your 2 springs can generate on a full wind and the duration of the output if connected to dinamo?
Wonderful exhibition of this technology! Can I plug your channel and show a clip of this in a video about long distance clockwork engines to lead back to you?
Sure that would be great - Thank you!
@@NorthviewRailroader thanks very much as well! do you have further thoughts on the clockwork mechanism? As a technology automata seems vastly underutilized.
Obviously, my interest in clockwork mechanisms centers around toy trains, although it is certainly an option for powering various types of low-energy items. I think my favorite practical application is the wind-up emergency radios that are available - no batteries that either need to be recharged or replaced, no sun or wind required - if the device is needed, any able-bodied person is able to supply the energy necessary for operation. It's a great modern use for such a mature technology. Perhaps there are inventors out there that could find other practical applications for this type of energy storage.
how about powering a bike like this? with a clutch that winds the springs when pedal is turned.
It would work, but I don't know if the extra weight and complication would be worth the trouble. It would store energy to help going up a hill or accelerating, but probably wouldn't be as much of a help as you might think.
I see this video is two years old, so don’t know if anyone is still paying attention to comments, but to me it looks like the two springs would provide more power, and speed, but not distance. Is it geared up to take advantage of the extra power? However it works, it’s really impressive.
You are correct, the two mainspring supply double the amount of torque, but no extra runtime. An extra set of gears are used to take advantage of the additional torque to increase the running distance. My V1 long distance motor only had extra gearing, and had very little pulling power with just a single mainspring, which led to the creation of the V2 motor you see here.
NorthviewRailroader Thank you for replying. I may try to copy your creation.
Wow! Very impressive, who needs electricity when you can get 15 laps out of a winding.
It's very impressive. Very! But can it reverse? Can it do switching operations? Can it neatly stop in place to unload side-dump cars? Can it stop on command at passenger stations to pick up and discharge our 'lil folks? Toy train guys who like these kinds of fun operations, they're the "who" who need electricity.... I have been known to run a clocker now and then, but at the exclusion of electric locos (especially Marx''s?) -Nahhhhh! No way! ;>})
Greywoulf Just hook it up to a gear box and it should be able to reverse
You can get like infinite out of electricity though, and there's sounds, and smoke
Very impressive.
Wow! That is impressive!
Unglaublich. Und eine interessante Technik. Ich habe eine Kraus-Fandor-Lok, die fährt (allerdings mit einem Uhrwerk) mit drei Anhängern etwa 55 m, also etwa 165 feet. 280 feet, also etwa 90 m, ist schon erstaunlich.
Vielen Dank. Ich habe mehr Ideen, um einen Uhrwerkmotor noch weiter laufen zu lassen; vielleicht werde ich bald mehr experimentieren können.
Can you make a engine like for a car have a hand winder for it ?
You mean a full-size automobile? That takes many, many times more energy than a toy train. It would be difficult and take a long time to store enough energy in a spring to power a car. To illustrate it another way, a train this size can be powered by a couple of "D" cell batteries that have about 50 watt-hours of stored energy (25 each). A Tesla Model S currently has a 100,000 watt-hours of battery capacity... 2000 times more energy storage than the two "D" cells. It would take a massive spring to store that much energy...
Cool
But there’s no explanation for the average viewer as to how this mechanism moves the train.
I suppose I should make a video showing how a windup train motor works... but it really is just a spring driving the wheels through a series of gears.