You're kidding right?? The VERY FIRST movement is already impossible: you can not move your whole body and slash down in the time that a guy simply stabs you in the gut ! Do you have ANY critical thinking? You don't need to go farther to realize that it's another youtube bs Mcdojo, nutjob fake martial art lol This will teach you how to get killed in 10 seconds.
You need to get your bullshit radar looked at. You’re falling for a strip mall dojo, Tommy Chong looking dude with an Indian headband on. God I feel like I’m talking to my girlfriend when she’s telling me how insightful her psychic medium is.
good point. like the Crane kick in Karate Kid. It's not meant to be held stationary like in the movie which telegraphs intent. yet Johnny still walked into it. 😝
@@TheMylittletonysometimes you have to figure things out for yourself. There are many reasons why things won't get taught. As an interested student it is up to you to fill the gap.
Very good point @leifodinnson just like kata and sequences in South East Asian martial arts. It's to train the feeling and muscle memory on what is effective when found in a particular position.
Wonderful to see such honest and open sharing. Thank you for this generous video. Indeed the teacher should aspire for their students to surpass them, and not for lack of their own skills in the art but instead for their dedication to teaching their students while being the best example possible. Hats off to you sir.
Good insight! 😃 It's my understanding that we adapted fencing techniques from the Spanish when they invaded our land back in the 1500s and 1600s. Every family has their own style, some more systemized than others. None the less, there's a common thread, a shared spirit. Our Warrior Ways are adaptive and change with the times while managing to stay the same; it's a balance that I am proud of. Nat'aahendé Band Mescalero Apache here. ✌🏽🪶🦅🌲🇺🇸
In the 80s I remember a story on the Sturgis Motorcycle rally held every year. What stands out was knife fighting competition with a referee.Yup..with steel knives. When you draw blood you got the point.The knife tips were rounded,so only slashing techniques were used. One finalist was a big Indian over 6ft tall,long black hair. My jaw dropped when he took his shirt off before the fight,as his chest had maybe 100 old knife scars from what looked like a lifetime of knife fighting. I cant find any Internet info on it but it really happened.
Freaking amazing wow! I wish I could learn these techniques. I have back and neck problems, along with three hernias 😅 I don't know much of my lipan apache ancestors even though I'm 38 percent. I'm very impressed and love this video! I'm a bladesmith too
Thank you from Oklahoma. That does sound like the bit of Navajo I've studied. My great great grandmother is Apache but I never got to meet her or know which tribe, and she refused a roll number. Also I'm a marine but no grunt. I will keep the magic pure, as all martial arts, like you said. I'll do good to do mobility exercises too. Thank you all so much and may God bless you.
Really enjoyed seeing this presentation of Apache knife fighting techniques. Thank you very much for posting and sharing. Would definitely like to go to a seminar in the future.
Very well demonstrated with good insights. 👍 Being a Ju-Jitsu practitioner (owned and operated a dojo in Miami) which came from the Samurai with obvious bladed weapons it was really interesting how much rudimentary knowledge and application of techniques are in common. You pointed out and emphasize Tai Sabaki (whole body movement or repositioning) and Ashi Sabaku (foot movment) along with other thing in common. Really enjoyed the video.👍🥋
Its not. In reality your opponent moves as fast as you do. You CANNOT do two moves while they remain stationary or only do one. Reality doesn't work like that. Watch full speed testing of this and it all falls apart pretty fast. That's why every culture invented longer weapons......to increase your odds of survival because in a close up knife fight they aren't good for either opponent.
Believe it or not some Historians stated that Spanish Explorers ( Conquistadors) brought with them a contingent of conquered "Filipino Warriors" with them to the new lands ( ~1600s - 11700s Latin America & early North America) fought alongside the Spanish with their short swords, long swords and knives ( daga). Dan Inosanto's demonstration at the Smithsonian talks briefly about it. The Spanish used early muzzle loading rifles & armor. The Filipino warriors were ambidextrous & keen on hitting the major arteries. The native Indigenous Peoples were similar in warfare. Apache ( & many others ) were very skilfull with bladed weapons & firearms. The Apache were the last to surrender & submit to rez LiFe. My dad spent time in the rez in the 60s. Dine. The switch & hammer technique trains the left hand in combat This is a very good drill & demo👍
After that the Spanish were "removed" and the land retained again by the natives (including what happened in Mexico to the Aztecs regain of their land. Through the Spanish conquest they claimed upto what is now parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico Nevada and upto Colorado, etc...but it was a claim because the native Indigenous (Indians) tribes lived there Souix, Dine, Mescalero, Apache etc lived in those ateas) Then the pilgrims & the colonization & expanse westward. In the late 1700s to 1800s Some Historians stated some Filipino Warriors jumped ship ( Spanish Armada & trading ships ) & settled in what is now Louisiana ~ 1650s or early to mid 1700s. Much is lost to time & decades of conflicts & westward takeovers. The natives must've fought hard as seen in this Apache combat demo. If only there was a project collaboration of Indigenous Peoples & Historians to gather data & research history for a Documentary of these events....a Movie would be Great! I imagine it would enlighten us all of the past history of how the Americas were explored & conquered (taken ) & "taken again. How people on both sides (all sides involved ...the indigenous Natives against the Spanish & then (some...some welcomed & formed alliances with the whites ) against the white colonists (Washishi)& the Colonists against the then British oppressors......even the conquered Filipino warriors were wanting to break free from the Spanish) They were all fighting for their WAY of Freedom back then. Now we have some sense of unity.
@@jajabinks92123You should read a book.! Other than Brazil and Costa Rica all chosen language is Spanish ,from Mexico, Central and South America! Spain ,is around 9000 Miles away.
Súper interesante, ya en una ocasión aprendí un poco de esta técnica, pero aquí se expone mucho mejor el estilo, muy interesante ojalá y se pudiera contactar con el profesor para dominar bien las técnicas, pero gracias por compartir.
Hello from Finland! Me and my friend created sort of a knife fighting form of martial art (my backround is from military, karate, taekwondo, muay thai and shoot fighting. My friend had trained the taekwondo and judo). So 2014 we decided to train these basic techniques and after a while we realized that using these steel toe shoes gives you advantage if you know what you are doing. For example: Man with a knife V.S man with a knife = you must do combinations like approaching your opponent starting from unorthodox stance (knife in right hand) and kick at the opponents knifehand, move to right direction and 1-2-1-2 (left fist face, knife to the gut, left fist face, knife to the throat) etc. Offcource you use plastic-rubber dagger when you train with a partner but use a real one when you train on your own because it removes your focus if it aint real and you will end up with your own knife in your leg.... Yes - it's for self defense, but if that situation comes in front of you, there is no time to think about your opponents health if theres a three bad guys robbing you or something.
8:11 this might seem like mcdojo advice but I've had so many near misses where I almost get impaled by something and have saved myself multiple times just by using my body weight in the opposite direction at the right moment. A couple inches of deceleration is sometimes all it takes to keep foreign objects on the outside of your body.
The movements are very good, since all usable systems are the same, regardless of their geographical origin. People everywhere have two hands and two legs. The important thing is not only to copy the external form of the master's movements, but to be aware of why things happen that way. The intention that guides the movement is important!
Beautiful choreography, Like a dance. Such style and grace. Thank you for demonstrating all of these techniques so slowly and carefully. I've watched quite a few videos of real knife fights on the street by people who really want to kill each other. I have never seen moves demonstrated like I have here. Perhaps the ones doing the real knife fighting should learn from your skills and technique. Perhaps a sparing match with safe knives and safety referees to keep everyone safe. I would very much like to see that on video. I think we would all learn so much. Thank you.
@@ianmatthews3041 On the one hand, learn as much as you can from many different schools. On the other hand, "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." Bruce Lee
As a boxer myself with several years of experience, I would like to train this as something fun to train and to give me something other than boxing (which is all i know) to train with. I know i can get some plastic knives to train with a partner. Or practice a "spar" maybe with markers so we can see what landed without actual wounds.
I really appreciate this. As a person that is carrying a knife for defense. I don't believe I have ever seen this foot work , stepping back to move to the side & such . Not looking to learn the K as you put it . But the defensive technique to be able to protect my family if needed . Just moved to New Mexico noticed this might have been made in N.M.
WOW! "Downward Wind" is what the Filipino's call a "Redonda" strike. Apache's knife is VERY similar to Arnis/ Eskrima. I'd go with eye protection before hand though. Great video and well done sir!
Wow, 1st time I watch an Apache Indian teaching martial arts in social media. Great job. By the way I luv ur husky voice...I bet if u sing a song its gonna sound lovely❤😊
@@snxjsnsnjsiwnsjsosjsmmemsjsnwhen i first got on this tube decades ago people just left negative/joke comments but now its all simping and brown nosing
Those 2 inch slashes are strikingly similar to ancient Slavic knife techniques, which evolved later into sabre fighting. Didn't expect to see something so common in Apache and ancient Slavs.
seeing a lot of Filipino martial arts in this. I love seeing how different martial arts come to the same conclusions on things. also a lot of god stuff i can add to my own art. thank you for the video.
You're kidding right?? The VERY FIRST movement is already impossible: you can not move your whole body and slash down in the time that a guy simply stabs you in the gut ! Do you have ANY critical thinking? You don't need to go farther to realize that it's another youtube bs Mcdojo, nutjob fake martial art lol . This will teach you how to get killed in 10 seconds.
What is shown here is the non-committed techniques taught to civilians. We teach the committed techniques to the military and law enforcement. Come to a seminar and test it out for yourself!
When was this filmed? I have done FMA and HEMA bladed arts, for 20 years. As well as Yanagi Ryu swordsmanship. So this was very interesting to me, thank you!
@@robinprice7032 Ah ok, was difficult to know just by looking looks like it could have been filmed any time in the past 20 years. He seems like he would be a lot of fun to trin with.
I'd add that it's also good to find/make something that replicates what you will be primarily using. Helps to ingrain distance and coverage should you ever be forced to use it in a stressful environment where gorilla-brain tends to set in and your fine motor skills can become compromised
Blackie Collins knife throwing guide. It's a small cheap instructional guide to throwing knives. It's old but it explained knife throwing to me in a way that made sense. Cheers hope it helps
Very good i used to do samurai tradirional jujitsu, looks no unlike it. They also used a eeverse geip knife defence. One thing they sajd donrt get to close to man with knife of sword.
So KoRyu?? What “Samurai” art exactly. I learned how to fight with a katana but I have never learned how to be a samurai because that is not a fighting style it is a form of employment. You’re basically saying I learned knight sword fighting. That is not how historical martial arts are taught, they are either lineage styles or rediscovered styles neither have legitimate claims to being actually from the samurai. All of your fighting techniques in Japan tradition can only be traced back to after the samurai were actually dismantled. Anthony Cummings and other people who do try to revive the samurai culture along with the KoRyu or traditional sword techniques do so from manuals. There are no living samurai to confirm what is actually proper.
@@robinprice7032 Nice. Tell him lol. I love Ka-Bars and especially the TDI knifes. They are so small you don't have much reach but they are absolute shredders with outstanding leverage and your not getting it out of someone's hand. I'm not military but I know if the Marines thought to look to Apache knife fighting tactics so long ago for training that's where I'd look too. Thank you guys. All of you.
Its an interesting question. Did native americans have a type of fighting boot camp they would put their warriors through? Was anything written down? Was knife fighting systems standardized ? Was the knife even their primary weapon ? I would think spear would be more important?
There was no written account of training as the natives did not have a written language. Training was started during childhood, starting with games and evolving into more concentrated training by the Elders and warriors. Everyone carried a knife as it was an everyday tool. The primary weapon was the warclub and bow and arrow. When the Europeans brought metal and firearms, everything changed. Unfortunately, If not for family traditions, most of the warrior arts have disappeared.
There are only so many ways to move a knife. There are similarities in all knife systems. We have many FMA practitioners who have come to our seminars and continue to train with us. The difference is in the footwork and application.
I took his " class " didn't realky take it to seriously because the emphasis was on walking forward or backward an NEVER crossing ur feet,...U always keep ur apponent in front of you,..however u need to!!,....u learn the basic cuts,..which are to numerous,..only 6 important cuts,..an was criticized because im Left handed an started my " cuts " from a Practical start point for a left hander!!,...I Learned far more in the Marines but that aggressive training wont fly in a civilian class,...really nice Dude,..expressing his culture, God bless em,..but u dont really learn any practical knife fighting application!!,..coasted thru it for my Girlfriend!,..
Where has this been for the least 200 years ..all of a sudden it surfaces now..and it doesnt look any different than anything else...just another wanabee trying to create history of an art so as to sell their own artform... its right up there with Bartitsu ...and just as ridicules and just as made up. On the RUclips there is a nut born every minute.
I’ve watched this multiple times. Incredible resource, and provided for free! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Now you just need to make it to a seminar! apache-knife.com/apache-seminar
Agreed it is one of the most practical classes I have seen on RUclips
The stories are very interesting too. Many thanks for the video from the UK
Very insightful demonstration. Loved Robert talking about his grandparents and their teaching him; very nice indeed.
Thanks! Have you checked out his website? apache-knife.com/
@@lamhbatalann2159 Yes, and I have his book as well. I think next I need to get my hands on some of that coffee. Cheers, JohnH.
This is the first knife fighting style I've seen that looks practical.
You're kidding right??
The VERY FIRST movement is already impossible: you can not move your whole body and slash down in the time that a guy simply stabs you in the gut ! Do you have ANY critical thinking?
You don't need to go farther to realize that it's another youtube bs Mcdojo, nutjob fake martial art lol
This will teach you how to get killed in 10 seconds.
Krav Maga
@@daveyjones5702have you seeen it?
nah
@@DeadPig325 have you tried it in an IRL situation?
nah...
have you ever been in an IRL situation?
nah...
You need to get your bullshit radar looked at. You’re falling for a strip mall dojo, Tommy Chong looking dude with an Indian headband on. God I feel like I’m talking to my girlfriend when she’s telling me how insightful her psychic medium is.
What many dont understand when they start training in martial arts is stances arent meant to be static poses. You use stances when you transistion
Many don't understand, because many don't teach it
good point. like the Crane kick in Karate Kid. It's not meant to be held stationary like in the movie which telegraphs intent. yet Johnny still walked into it. 😝
@@TheMylittletonysometimes you have to figure things out for yourself. There are many reasons why things won't get taught. As an interested student it is up to you to fill the gap.
It all depends what you are doing in any give time.
Very good point @leifodinnson just like kata and sequences in South East Asian martial arts. It's to train the feeling and muscle memory on what is effective when found in a particular position.
Wonderful to see such honest and open sharing. Thank you for this generous video. Indeed the teacher should aspire for their students to surpass them, and not for lack of their own skills in the art but instead for their dedication to teaching their students while being the best example possible. Hats off to you sir.
Fencing and apache knife fighting have a lot in common, except the turning and side facing retreat. I'm impressed
I think Fiore teaches the same principles
Good insight! 😃
It's my understanding that we adapted fencing techniques from the Spanish when they invaded our land back in the 1500s and 1600s.
Every family has their own style, some more systemized than others. None the less, there's a common thread, a shared spirit.
Our Warrior Ways are adaptive and change with the times while managing to stay the same; it's a balance that I am proud of.
Nat'aahendé Band Mescalero Apache here.
✌🏽🪶🦅🌲🇺🇸
In the 80s I remember a story on the Sturgis Motorcycle rally held every year. What stands out was knife fighting competition with a referee.Yup..with steel knives. When you draw blood you got the point.The knife tips were rounded,so only slashing techniques were used. One finalist was a big Indian over 6ft tall,long black hair. My jaw dropped when he took his shirt off before the fight,as his chest had maybe 100 old knife scars from what looked like a lifetime of knife fighting.
I cant find any Internet info on it but it really happened.
i believe it
different time
no cameras
@@DeadPig325i dont it was just that a story
Thanks for the lesson, philosophy, and stories. It was Interesting about different bandannas also.
Freaking amazing wow! I wish I could learn these techniques. I have back and neck problems, along with three hernias 😅 I don't know much of my lipan apache ancestors even though I'm 38 percent. I'm very impressed and love this video! I'm a bladesmith too
Thank you from Oklahoma. That does sound like the bit of Navajo I've studied. My great great grandmother is Apache but I never got to meet her or know which tribe, and she refused a roll number. Also I'm a marine but no grunt. I will keep the magic pure, as all martial arts, like you said. I'll do good to do mobility exercises too. Thank you all so much and may God bless you.
Very good like to come on a seminar when u do Jerry in UK thanks😊
Really enjoyed seeing this presentation of Apache knife fighting techniques. Thank you very much for posting and sharing. Would definitely like to go to a seminar in the future.
Very well demonstrated with good insights. 👍
Being a Ju-Jitsu practitioner (owned and operated a dojo in Miami) which came from the Samurai with obvious bladed weapons it was really interesting how much rudimentary knowledge and application of techniques are in common. You pointed out and emphasize Tai Sabaki (whole body movement or repositioning) and Ashi Sabaku (foot movment) along with other thing in common. Really enjoyed the video.👍🥋
Thank you for sharing your world, my brother.
Thank you so much. This knowledge is a true blessing.
I know nothing about knives, but I feel like I've learned a lot! The system also seems very scientific and practical. Thanks for sharing so much!
Its not. In reality your opponent moves as fast as you do. You CANNOT do two moves while they remain stationary or only do one. Reality doesn't work like that. Watch full speed testing of this and it all falls apart pretty fast. That's why every culture invented longer weapons......to increase your odds of survival because in a close up knife fight they aren't good for either opponent.
Cool isn’t it. I already knew some of this but learnt a whole lot more
It's good to see different cultures of how they live and fought....and compare to others ...your like a ninja 🥷
Thanks a lot for sharing! Many respect and greetings from Germany.
I have studied many types of knife fighting most of my life, this is some of the best I have ever seen 👍
It pales next to Southeast Asian knife-fighting (Indonesia, Philippines, etc.).
Believe it or not some Historians stated that Spanish Explorers ( Conquistadors) brought with them a contingent of conquered "Filipino Warriors" with them to the new lands ( ~1600s - 11700s Latin America & early North America) fought alongside the Spanish with their short swords, long swords and knives ( daga). Dan Inosanto's demonstration at the Smithsonian talks briefly about it. The Spanish used early muzzle loading rifles & armor. The Filipino warriors were ambidextrous & keen on hitting the major arteries. The native Indigenous Peoples were similar in warfare.
Apache ( & many others ) were very skilfull with bladed weapons & firearms. The Apache were the last to surrender & submit to rez LiFe.
My dad spent time in the rez in the 60s. Dine.
The switch & hammer technique trains the left hand in combat This is a very good drill & demo👍
After that the Spanish were "removed" and the land retained again by the natives (including what happened in Mexico to the Aztecs regain of their land. Through the Spanish conquest they claimed upto what is now parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico Nevada and upto Colorado, etc...but it was a claim because the native Indigenous (Indians) tribes lived there Souix, Dine, Mescalero, Apache etc lived in those ateas)
Then the pilgrims & the colonization & expanse westward. In the late 1700s to 1800s Some Historians stated some Filipino Warriors jumped ship ( Spanish Armada & trading ships ) & settled in what is now Louisiana ~ 1650s or early to mid 1700s.
Much is lost to time & decades of conflicts & westward takeovers.
The natives must've fought hard as seen in this Apache combat demo.
If only there was a project collaboration of Indigenous Peoples & Historians to gather data & research history for a Documentary of these events....a Movie would be Great!
I imagine it would enlighten us all of the past history of how the Americas were explored & conquered (taken ) & "taken again. How people on both sides (all sides involved ...the indigenous Natives against the Spanish & then (some...some welcomed & formed alliances with the whites ) against the white colonists (Washishi)& the Colonists against the then British oppressors......even the conquered Filipino warriors were wanting to break free from the Spanish) They were all fighting for their WAY of Freedom back then. Now we have some sense of unity.
Plus...it would have some really bad azz fight scenes😂
@@jajabinks92123You should read a book.! Other than Brazil and Costa Rica all chosen language is Spanish ,from Mexico, Central and South America! Spain ,is around 9000 Miles away.
I just came across this channel. This is awesome! I love Native American ways, the outdoors, and I love knives
И казино!
Thanks for sharing this wealth of knowledge.
Súper interesante, ya en una ocasión aprendí un poco de esta técnica, pero aquí se expone mucho mejor el estilo, muy interesante ojalá y se pudiera contactar con el profesor para dominar bien las técnicas, pero gracias por compartir.
Hello from Finland! Me and my friend created sort of a knife fighting form of martial art (my backround is from military, karate, taekwondo, muay thai and shoot fighting. My friend had trained the taekwondo and judo). So 2014 we decided to train these basic techniques and after a while we realized that using these steel toe shoes gives you advantage if you know what you are doing. For example: Man with a knife V.S man with a knife = you must do combinations like approaching your opponent starting from unorthodox stance (knife in right hand) and kick at the opponents knifehand, move to right direction and 1-2-1-2 (left fist face, knife to the gut, left fist face, knife to the throat) etc. Offcource you use plastic-rubber dagger when you train with a partner but use a real one when you train on your own because it removes your focus if it aint real and you will end up with your own knife in your leg.... Yes - it's for self defense, but if that situation comes in front of you, there is no time to think about your opponents health if theres a three bad guys robbing you or something.
What kind of gun do you use for shoot fighting ?
8:11 this might seem like mcdojo advice but I've had so many near misses where I almost get impaled by something and have saved myself multiple times just by using my body weight in the opposite direction at the right moment. A couple inches of deceleration is sometimes all it takes to keep foreign objects on the outside of your body.
Excellent teachings thank you❤
The movements are very good, since all usable systems are the same, regardless of their geographical origin. People everywhere have two hands and two legs. The important thing is not only to copy the external form of the master's movements, but to be aware of why things happen that way. The intention that guides the movement is important!
Beautiful choreography, Like a dance. Such style and grace. Thank you for demonstrating all of these techniques so slowly and carefully. I've watched quite a few videos of real knife fights on the street by people who really want to kill each other. I have never seen moves demonstrated like I have here. Perhaps the ones doing the real knife fighting should learn from your skills and technique. Perhaps a sparing match with safe knives and safety referees to keep everyone safe. I would very much like to see that on video. I think we would all learn so much. Thank you.
Im a Marine Corps veteran. That is some good training. Some and effective. 😎👍
You can find the book Apache Knife: Fight Like The Wind by Robert Redfeather online if you're interested in having the basics in print.
Green beret's learned from Apache's
@@ognatal9753I would have thought Green Berets would bave learned from Fairbairn Sykes like every other special operator?
@@ianmatthews3041 On the one hand, learn as much as you can from many different schools. On the other hand, "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." Bruce Lee
Yeah, I was thinking this would go well with a k-bar.
excellent techniques--I have practiced some Eskrima and see similarities - movement is vital
As a boxer myself with several years of experience, I would like to train this as something fun to train and to give me something other than boxing (which is all i know) to train with. I know i can get some plastic knives to train with a partner. Or practice a "spar" maybe with markers so we can see what landed without actual wounds.
Very cool. Love watching our country's original warriors teach.
Thanks
Very interesting thank you for your Upload!
I really appreciate this. As a person that is carrying a knife for defense. I don't believe I have ever seen this foot work , stepping back to move to the side & such . Not looking to learn the K as you put it . But the defensive technique to be able to protect my family if needed . Just moved to New Mexico noticed this might have been made in N.M.
Thanks! Filmed in Los Angeles but Robert's family is out of New Mexico.
Unique!!!!Thanks and besst regards!!!
Very nice stuff. I studied escrima and some of these techniques are similar.
WOW! "Downward Wind" is what the Filipino's call a "Redonda" strike. Apache's knife is VERY similar to Arnis/ Eskrima. I'd go with eye protection before hand though. Great video and well done sir!
ΕΥΓΕ κύριοι.. Σας ευχαριστούμε για τις θαυμάσιες πληροφορίες. Χαιρετισμούς από Ελλάδα. 🇬🇷
Wow, 1st time I watch an Apache Indian teaching martial arts in social media. Great job. By the way I luv ur husky voice...I bet if u sing a song its gonna sound lovely❤😊
dont be geiii pls..😣😣
Calm down there sporto!
@@snxjsnsnjsiwnsjsosjsmmemsjsnwhen i first got on this tube decades ago people just left negative/joke comments but now its all simping and brown nosing
Very practical and as most people have a knife in the house it is a good instruction for home defence.
Thanks so much for sharing
Движение, дистанция и атака рук👍
Those 2 inch slashes are strikingly similar to ancient Slavic knife techniques, which evolved later into sabre fighting. Didn't expect to see something so common in Apache and ancient Slavs.
It’s interesting that things developed like that. Parallel development
There's only so many things a human can do with a blade. All martial arts are one.
maybe bcuz its NOT apache...?
@@zulubeatz1 parallel development is an assumption. No one knows where it all started.
@@firstname-qq3xp Some things are common to all systems anyway, it's the way the human body works.
Thank you for the lesson. I am trying to learn about Indigenous arts to add to my way. I recently found out that I have Indigenous ancestry.
Thanks for the insightful lesson , greeting from a german interested a lot in learning life long👍
Great video guys
Cool 😎 wisdom techniques
Very good. Some unique. Thank you. Some similarities to Sufi/Indian Shastar vidiya and souteast asian styles.
the native americans were good fighters with the spear,tomawok and with the bow.
seeing a lot of Filipino martial arts in this. I love seeing how different martial arts come to the same conclusions on things. also a lot of god stuff i can add to my own art. thank you for the video.
Finally someone with some fcking knife fighting experience and tradition based on reality and not bullshit. Thanks the Heavens!
You're kidding right??
The VERY FIRST movement is already impossible: you can not move your whole body and slash down in the time that a guy simply stabs you in the gut ! Do you have ANY critical thinking?
You don't need to go farther to realize that it's another youtube bs Mcdojo, nutjob fake martial art lol . This will teach you how to get killed in 10 seconds.
god bless you sir
Tq apache knife principle. Great
I also like your teaching philosophy.
If I was American I would be running to this kind of class.
Thank you
Bahad Zubu very similar. The movements are the natural movements of the human body and positioning.
It's really just geometry
Which is the best grip or is it purely choice. ?
It all depends on the situation.
this is great
Sounds like a lot of wind to me 😂
Yes brother 🐺 a mighty wind!
💨🤢
I am sure you are proficient in all kinds of fighting but allow us mortals to try and learn please
@@zulubeatz1 you just had to write that..... I am proficient at deez nutz
@@zulubeatz1 you don’t need to be an expert to know that shit stinks
Holy slippery ding dong a deadly art that avoids being deadly.
What is shown here is the non-committed techniques taught to civilians. We teach the committed techniques to the military and law enforcement. Come to a seminar and test it out for yourself!
@@robinprice7032 just spar kick boxing then come back to knife drills so u dont have these useless get ur self cut techniques
Yeah from my minimal understanding hema it all looks like bullshit
My GSD clears the room with “downwind wind.”
I’m really interested in the short breath he has just because he’s talking while doing little movement. Surely this help during a fight. With a donut.
Very interesting to watch this
When was this filmed? I have done FMA and HEMA bladed arts, for 20 years. As well as Yanagi Ryu swordsmanship. So this was very interesting to me, thank you!
We filmed this a couple of years ago.
@@robinprice7032 Ah ok, was difficult to know just by looking looks like it could have been filmed any time in the past 20 years. He seems like he would be a lot of fun to trin with.
Hello, quick question: How long are the training knives (overall length and length of cutting edge) or what might be a good practice stick length?
We normally use the Cold Steel Leatherneck trainer. But it's good to train with different lengths and designs.
I'd add that it's also good to find/make something that replicates what you will be primarily using.
Helps to ingrain distance and coverage should you ever be forced to use it in a stressful environment where gorilla-brain tends to set in and your fine motor skills can become compromised
May the shaman always offer the Apache warrior the strength to live free, never otherwise...
So, this is all newly developed knife fighting, not old knowledge passed from warrior to warrior.
Everybody is ready for a knife fight... Till someone throws the fucking knife at you.
Blackie Collins knife throwing guide. It's a small cheap instructional guide to throwing knives. It's old but it explained knife throwing to me in a way that made sense. Cheers hope it helps
Very good i used to do samurai tradirional jujitsu, looks no unlike it. They also used a eeverse geip knife defence.
One thing they sajd donrt get to close to man with knife of sword.
So KoRyu?? What “Samurai” art exactly. I learned how to fight with a katana but I have never learned how to be a samurai because that is not a fighting style it is a form of employment. You’re basically saying I learned knight sword fighting. That is not how historical martial arts are taught, they are either lineage styles or rediscovered styles neither have legitimate claims to being actually from the samurai. All of your fighting techniques in Japan tradition can only be traced back to after the samurai were actually dismantled. Anthony Cummings and other people who do try to revive the samurai culture along with the KoRyu or traditional sword techniques do so from manuals. There are no living samurai to confirm what is actually proper.
I like it.
A big gut is definitely knife defense
Apache using a Bowie knife is historic irony.
K-bar actually. We use that model of knife because we frequently teach the Marines.
@@robinprice7032 Bowie knife killed a lot of Indians and inspired the KA Bar.
@@robinprice7032 Nice. Tell him lol. I love Ka-Bars and especially the TDI knifes. They are so small you don't have much reach but they are absolute shredders with outstanding leverage and your not getting it out of someone's hand. I'm not military but I know if the Marines thought to look to Apache knife fighting tactics so long ago for training that's where I'd look too. Thank you guys. All of you.
"Robin don't you DARE forget your goddamn knife ever again!" 😭😅
Tkank you
What are the advantages of a Southpaw knife stance?
If I'm moving to the right, then my left hand is closer. It also throws people off if they are only used to fighting righties.
Its an interesting question. Did native americans have a type of fighting boot camp they would put their warriors through? Was anything written down? Was knife fighting systems standardized ? Was the knife even their primary weapon ? I would think spear would be more important?
There was no written account of training as the natives did not have a written language. Training was started during childhood, starting with games and evolving into more concentrated training by the Elders and warriors. Everyone carried a knife as it was an everyday tool. The primary weapon was the warclub and bow and arrow. When the Europeans brought metal and firearms, everything changed. Unfortunately, If not for family traditions, most of the warrior arts have disappeared.
@@robinprice7032 was there any commonality of fighting styles within a tribe or did each band of warriors fight their own way?
@@raveneye12 Not a lot of info on that, but regional weapons and tactics are mentioned.
all respect!!!!!!!!
Cool.
Wow! Thank you
You teach the ghost, you’re not there😉
why is this video such low resolution?? for one hour i cant watch 360 times whatever it was 😟🙄😕😒
I'm sorry I lost it when he pulled out the other pre tied bandanna
Unfortunately, today one needs to be able to defend themselves with a knife or whatever else they are fighting with.
peace
he doesnt even look very apache is he mixed..? just asking
Que hace el Mano Santa de Argentina, en Arte Marciales.
Foot work like boxing
Every time I ever got my but kicked always against a guy who was built like this apache guy never the guys with the wash bord stomach
Looks alot like "Filipino" Kali knife work.
There are only so many ways to move a knife. There are similarities in all knife systems. We have many FMA practitioners who have come to our seminars and continue to train with us. The difference is in the footwork and application.
@@robinprice7032 IC
A lot of martial arts are connected in some way, shape, or form.
Bro, I am so down to hear your story.
Yeh and I did and I was let down by Apachie Knife top instructor Robert Redfeather ....... EX BIG HEART DOG
How did he let you down?
movement is everything. then speed, how can you stop something you cant see.
earth dragon chi
I took his " class " didn't realky take it to seriously because the emphasis was on walking forward or backward an NEVER crossing ur feet,...U always keep ur apponent in front of you,..however u need to!!,....u learn the basic cuts,..which are to numerous,..only 6 important cuts,..an was criticized because im Left handed an started my " cuts " from a Practical start point for a left hander!!,...I Learned far more in the Marines but that aggressive training wont fly in a civilian class,...really nice Dude,..expressing his culture, God bless em,..but u dont really learn any practical knife fighting application!!,..coasted thru it for my Girlfriend!,..
Did you come to one of the two-day seminars or just a quick class at CombatCon or DragonFest?
What did the Apache do before the white man showed up and introduced steel knives?
Used flint and obsidian knives. Deer antlers, etc.
@@robinprice7032obsidian is unbelievable sharp.
Are you guys training with a real knifes ? I hope that only plastic or else...
Plastic for training.
Bandana or 🤨
🎉scarf ?
LOL Now ice seen it all...now some guy is inventing Apache martial arts lol
It is a Family art. Do you think that Native Peoples did not have their own martial arts?
@@robinprice7032 LOL too funny
Where has this been for the least 200 years ..all of a sudden it surfaces now..and it doesnt look any different than anything else...just another wanabee trying to create history of an art so as to sell their own artform... its right up there with Bartitsu ...and just as ridicules and just as made up. On the RUclips there is a nut born every minute.
@@robinprice7032 some people just love to disparage others. I guess it makes them feel good.
Wait till he finds out about Fairburn Sykes fighting technique
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