Tonya Harding (USA) - 1992 Albertville, Ladies' Free Skate
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2009
- Albertville, FRANCE - 1992 Winter Games, Figure Skating, Ladies' Free Skate - Tonya Harding of the United States skated a strong enough performance that would move her up from 6th to 4th Place overall.
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It took BALLS to try that triple when she could be done a safe skate to place higher, ya know?
Rebecca Stout The triple axel is a difficult jump to hit consistently, just due to how hard it is, she could have easily doubled or singled it, but she stuck to her guns, I have a lot of respect for her for that
She is such a exciting performer to watch. Can not take that away.
That triple flip was held for every inch of her life. Glad people can see, even giving 50%, she was technically a skating prodigy.
And as we all should know by now, back then,the artistry was the deciding factor. Not the jumps. Same thing happened 4 years later between Nancy and Oksana. They were tied. Nancy had higher technical scores, Oksana had higher artistry. The deciding factor was the artistry. I feel since they were tied,they should have gave both a gold medal. People can argue all they want about the jumps and being more exciting but that isn't the way it went at least back then.
History has been kind to Tonya. Her skating has simply held up by comparison over the years.
We ♥️ Tonya Harding!!!
I loved her music in this program. She really was fun to watch. I really hate that Tonya Harding lost her chance to continue skating.
Merecia o bronze, linda apresentação ♥️
Even though 3rd in the Long Program wouldn't have brought her up to a medal anyway, I would have placed this program ahead of Nancy's.
Tonya - 5.7/5.7 (cleaner than Nancy and with harder executed jumps)
Nancy - 5.6/5.7 (sloppy, but pretty skate. Apples and oranges on the day)
2020, im here
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She could have tried the triple Axel again in the middle of this program like Midori Ito did I don't know why she didn't get up and just try it again she had nothing to lose at that point
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Hamilton was notorious for favoring specific skaters, but this was not a good performance , so it would be harder to say anything nice anyway. Harding, to me, looked like she was going through the motions. Perhaps, if she had landed her 3A, everything would’ve been different, but it was not to be.
well she didn't leave the next morning. she did the exhibition.
Nancy was no competition for Tonya!
When I was a kid I thought Tonya was so fat. I actually joined figure skating because I was fat and I thought" Hay if she can do it then so can I". Tonya was not fat at all.
4:19 😂😂
Tonya should've been the rightful bronze medalist here. Nancy had way more mistakes in her free skate than Tonya here, singling 2 of her triple jumps and a fall. Tonya fell attempting a triple axel, does her difficulty not compensate for it?
3:53
she's in tilted position on the air when she does a triple axle?? of course it's likely to fall. it's probably just a lucky landin when she made it before in a competition
Tell us you know nothing about skating without telling us you know nothing about skating. You do NOT land triple axel's, the hardest jump of all, by "luck." They take YEARS of training and hard work to even begin to be able to do one, and even today only eight women have ever managed it. Nor did Tonya land the triple axel in "a competition," she landed it in SEVEN competitions, as well as countless times during training.
@@theshillneckedlizard8364What do you mean? Commenter here is right. Her triple axel had a strange takeoff. Yes you need strength to pull in the rotation, but when you’re tilted all of your jumps depend on luck. You either push through or fall.
Tonya Harding only landed the 3A in three competitions. ‘91 Skate America, ‘91 Nationals, and ‘91 Worlds. She never landed one in competition after that.
She quickly became a practice skater, joining Josee Chouinard and Laetitia Hubert. Josee Chouinard DID land triple axels as well during practice, but never attempted one in competition due to nerves. Tonya Harding did the same.
Tonya should of won sliver or bronze.
Her triple axel was always tilted ,,,,on the rare occasion she landed it. After the 91 season she was always a mess.
Tonya only landed 2 clean triples. Toe and Loop. She 2 footed the Lutz, Flip, and 2nd Toe. Such a disappointment.
Lutz is tilted in air but clean landing
@@USA-qm2bk at 1:05 I see her left heel on the ice
If she skated this program like she did at 91 Skate America, she would've gotten the Gold.
From sixth place after the short? Sarah Hughes came from fourth to win but I’ve never heard of sixth. And beating Midori Ito? Americans always yammer about Tonya would have won gold, but it just never happened in an international competition, so I don’t know where they get that.
What? She had a major error in the short and was only in 6th place! It’s not possible to move up from 6th to 1st with the old scoring system!
@@ravenel2 yeah, Skate America, She won gold. Deserved 3rd here
If she had performed her short program like she did at ‘91 Skate America, she definitely would have won a medal.
I wanted Tonya to make that triple axel soooooo bad!!! Ugh, I was trying to WILL it to happen....😩. I love the slow sexy portion of this program. Tonya was most definitely a strong athletic jumper, no doubt about that, we all know that about her. But she was also quite graceful on the ice at times. I thought she did very well during the slower portion of her program when she wasn’t jumping.
I'm really disappointed by Scott Hamilton's attitude towards Tanya. He praised Nancy Kerrigan all through her lackluster performance. Did he ever say anything nice about Tanya? She totally deserved the bronze medal.
Kendra Williams agree with you totally. The media NEVER gave her a break. Not ever. Scott Hamilton here included. So disappointing, isn’t it? I think all of Nancy’s performances are lackluster. All of them. She never ever was exciting or entertaining on the ice. Wouldn’t it have been just awesome for Tonya to come up with one really BIG win in one of these Olympics?
Kendra Williams totally agree!!! He's always been biased in regards to her. So sad.
It actually surprised me because Scott is normally so vocally supportive of skaters. As a commentator, he was forever coming up with anecdotes about them and forgiving them for being unprepared or making glaring errors. But it was very obvious that he, as well as the rest of the American commentators, were not Harding fans. Which is honestly fine, but if you're going to do that -- don't pretend you love *everybody* else and you're only willing to shit on one skater.
I think he said the sport of figure skating was forever tarnished because of the Harding controversy. Yeah right Scott. No one gave a crap about figure skating on this level UNTIL Tonya Harding. He's unfair to her.
He spoke well of her during her 1991 Skate America program. Also, after Midori Ito’s original program in this same Olympics, he says he would’ve placed Tonya higher than her. There are actually comments on that video about his bias in favor of Tonya.
That was actually quite a great skate. She went for the 3axel but fell and then, doubled the toe and salchow but she threw back in the 3toe at the end, so the only missing triple was the salchow. Her 3loop is still unmatched, IMO.
well, no…it was not a great skate. she has power and speed…but she two footed landings…doubled a jump…fell out of a triple axel. it was an okay skate. her 91 nationals LP was a great skate!!!!
You hear her say "Where's Denmark?" after when looking at the scores.
1:04 The mid-air #CounterRotation of that 3Lutz is EVERYTHING!
People get stuck on her Axel or her Loop, but she really had the best Lutz in the field for years.
She looked so tired/deflated during this performance. Nothing like the energetic Tonya we saw a year earlier at Nationals or Worlds and not even close to the performance quality she showed at '91 Skate America. Was it nerves? Asthma? Jet lag? Substitute her '91 Skate America performance for Albertville and she would have won the gold, in my opinion.
tide32athlete absolutely!!!
@@kimberlybellefontaine1215 I don't think she would have won the gold because she was coming into the competition in 6th, although she definitely could have won the silver
She arrived in Albertville too close to when the competition started when everyone else was there a week earlier. Her coach at the time Dodi Teachman even said she had jet lag. Tonya herself even said in an interview she was not practicing as much as she should have. Still back then I was hoping she would get something but she was too far down in the rankings.
Anyone ever annoyed like me that Scott Hamilton is always so blatantly overly critical of her? He obviously dislikes her.
Rebecca Stout I think he and so many others became disappointed in her. Around this time everything was falling apart and it was obvious some of it was her own negligence
@@chriscoyne9717 He does say some nice things about her - e.g. he comments on how powerful her stroke is and "nicely done," on the triple lutz, but I think you may be right - at the end when he says "I'm sure she's disappointed with this performance," what he really means is that HE'S disappointed with the performance - heck, she was capable of nailing triple axels when she was "on," he knew she could do better.
I love Tonya Harding
I love this outfit ♥️
I love that she skated to ZZ Top at the Olympics lol. but it hurt her, more than it helped her style.
It only hurt her because the judges are classist uptight pearl-clutchers 🤷
I think if she had landed the triple axel, the confidence and happiness that she would had gain would had make her do a stunning performance, like in 1991.
I watched Nancy's and Tonyas performance at this competition. Nancy fell 3 times! Tonya fell once and that was trying a triple axle. How did Tonya not beat Nancy????
The artistic scores were the tie-breakers. Her choice of music for the slow part probably hurt her.
@@AmusedChild also the fact she was so low coming out of the short program
Tonya was sixth after the OP. She would of needed most of the skaters ahead of her in the standings to faulted big time, especially Kristi and Midori. It’s impossible to move up to top 3 when your 6th going into the free skate.
Try to know how the scoring works. They skate twice. The first skate is worth 1/3 the total points. The second skate is worth 2/3. So, for the first skate, they take your place and cut it in half. If you come in first, you get half a point. If you come in sixth, that is three points. Like golf, the lowest score wins.
Nancy came in 2nd for the first skate and Tonya 6th. Now, had Tonya scored higher than Nancy for this skate and came in 3rd, she still would have finished 4th overall. Nancy would have had a total score of 5 points while Tonya had 6, because her not landing the triple axel in the 1st skate hurt big time. I understand your reasoning, and maybe Tonya Harding should have gotten better scores than Kerrigan for this set, but Nancy Kerrigan still would have taken the bronze medal had she finished fourth in the free skate behind Harding, which I think she should have
@@AJHyoton oh ok. Thanks for explaining.
Wow...this isn't as bad as I thought I remembered it to be...is it just me or was this actually way better than Nancy Kerrigan?
Why does everyone compare her skating to Nancy's? I don't get it! Like Nancy is the only one keeping her down,lol.
@@janetdishler3039 Because Nancy got the bronze medal over her. The bronze was between those 2 at these games.
She looked so dissapointed with her scores, im not surprised, she was getting 6.0's and 5.9's in 1991. if only she stayed in shape for this Olympics
Love her
Really deserved the bronze here. even though this was like a low quality version of the skate america '91 performance
ditto
Chris Coyne agree!
Never! There were so many mistakes in that performance, never could this outskate Nancy Kerrigan (and I’m really not a fan of Nancy!)
@@rekr3316 Nancy singled 2 triple jumps and fell as well, Tonya had one fall attempting the triple axel. How should Nancy have beaten Tonya?
I am starting to understand the movie 'I, Tonya' she was a troubled woman and a great talent.
love her
The first song reminded me when I was on my way on a 10 hr drive watching tinker bell on my car TV.
That was what I was thinking.
Me too.
Ooh I love that music that starts at 1;56! That sexy sax. Love it! Anyone know the name of it??
Tonya does have a pretty layback spin. Gosh I remember these Olympics like it was yesterday!! Thanks for the upload 3Axel1996! :)
Yes, that song is by Europa and it's called Earth's Cry, Heaven's Smile. :-)
tide32athlete Oh thank you so much!! I always loved that music!! ;)
tide32athlete to reply to your post about tonya looking deflated, haha thats a great way to put it btw, it was jet lag and laziness, even she admitted that... she didn't get there soon enough or practice enough... thats the real reason. i agree tho if she had given a performance more reminiscent of skate america 91 she'd have been gracing that podium fo sho haha
Louis Grassi So much raw talent, but just not enough dedication to her dream. It's a shame she ever met Jeff Gillooly. How's that saying go? "We accept the love we think we deserve?". Oh, what could have been.
Why did she arrive in Albertville so late? Was she not wanting to miss karaoke night at the local bar back home?
I can't recall ever seeing scores so all over the place, like usually they'll be similar with maybe one that's really far off from the others. But her scores vary so wildly from judge to judge
At least she showed some fight, it was better technically than Kerrigan. I would have had Chen Lu in third as well
Its already been said back then it was more about the artistry than technical!
You can tell she’s getting tired at 3:31 almost as if she’s giving up. As well during her spirals her arms almost flop down as if she’s lost hope.
Her face as soon as she finishes at 4:34 - she looks disappointed, almost wistful
I would have had her third in the free skate here. Much better than Nancy in the Long program.
If she just could've nailed that triple axel.... I would've given her the bronze. Would've given the gold to Midori but that's just because I love Midori and think she's far more exciting to watch than Kristi, and more talented even on her off nights.
Also kristis long program was kind off dissapointing with multiple mistakes
@@joccskates4497 Kristi’s had the least mistake. And she was the only one who did the triple triple combo. And her fall from the Loop was not as bad as the rest. Her butt didn’t touch the ice.
@@joccskates4497 One, and she recovered beautifully while Ito bombed.
Yeah, well her technical was not nearly as good as my Bay Area babe, so there
@@AJHyoton ito did not bomb
People here bitching why Tonya didn't get the bronze which went to Nancy. Tonya was 6th entering the LP whereas Kerrigan was 2nd. The odds to overcome that was too much. Also, most people don't know Tonya chose to wait until only 3 days before competition to arrive at Olympics whereas all the skaters were there days before opening ceremony. Tonya's lousy attitude and lack of preparation were her own undoing. As usual, she's got nobody to blame but herself.
Methinks tonya and midori should have had flip flopped placements in the original program
I understand though what she says about how her skate blade was put on incorrect, all of her jumps here are tilted!
what was the music when she did her triple axel?
coldonblue robin hood prince of thieves here. But when she landed it in nationals 1991 it was the Batman theme.
@BobtailTM30 I agree. Tonya's performance was better then Nancy's that year. She landed the triple lutz and triple doubled her combination. Nancy's mistakes over shadowed her artistry. Let's be real, Nancy Kerrigan was never the best skater, she had two strong performances at 94 Olympics but never really wowed people prior to that. Tonya was an amazing athlete, but her marriage to that scumbag interfered with her skating. It would have been fir to give her the bronze that year.
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I believe Tonya should have won the bronze medal at this Olympics! Sure this was not a great perfomance, but none of the female skaters perfromed well at the 92 Olympics. Nancy Kerrigan's performance was awkward and painful to watch. Tonya's wasnt that good either, but better than Nancy!!!
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When skaters fall on a large point jump and land double feet they lose more points, though. Tonya isn’t as artistic as the medal winners. She’s a great, strong skater!
BobtailTM30 but Nancy skated a nice sp
Right, and I think that's why Nancy clearly deserved the bronze over Tonya. Tonya's long program was technically better than Nancy's but artistically weaker, and Tonya's short program was worse than Nancy's in both categories.
Tonya should've won the bronze.
Margaret Tudor no Nancy should have n did Godzilla on ice places 4rth. Rightfully
I don't think yamaguchi would have won gold if her competitors didn't fall. to me yamaguchi is boring, though consistent i suppose. I like midori and tonya harding, at least they went for it
therealightkim I agree. Also Malaguena was and is a dreadful choice of music.
Was she in jail for attacking another skater one...
Tuula Westra You're thinking of the right person, but she didn't go to jail, nor was she the actual person that attacked the other skater (Nancy Kerrigan).
tide32athlete Thank you, I remember reading about this, and don't know what happened then....
Her idiot husband at the time hired a wannabe hitman to attack and disable her competition, the attacked skater was Nancy Kerrigan and all she got was a very bruised up knee. Thanks to that incident and the media circus at the time Tonya was banned from the ice and not allowed to compete again, then sadly she was also shunned by her peers on skating exhibitions. Yet she was one of the greatest and strongest competitors the US ever had in figure skating. A real shame she got married to a guy who only took & made her loose so much in life, because she is a natural on the ice and really worked hard against all odds to achieve her goals with barely no support at all.
Tuula Westra No, she was not in jail. She was an accessory after the fact. There is no proof she helped to plan the attack. She was a better skater than Nancy Kerrigan and there was no reason for her to attack her.
LOVE HER but she gave up and wasnt in shape. If she missed the axel and skated great she would have beat Nancy. For some reason she seemed not to care at all how she skated.
robbed of the bronze for sure... but i also would have had chen lu third
This was not a good one. I like Tonya but no
Tonyas music edits were TERRIBLE.
surya bonaly should have won
LOL!!
Paul Ellison the right skater won and remember Midori did the triple axel. Not tonya