This is really nuts. I do wonder if this is intended or indicative of a bug. I'm hoping it's more on the intended side, but it's hard to imagine how a team like Man U could drop so low. I'd love to see a deep dive into some of these teams to see how it went wrong for them.
To be fair, big teams failing over 2 or 3 decades is very common. If you look at english football before the united and liverpool wins, it puts things into perspective. So in 100 years it does make sense things change so much. But, it is definitely insane that top clubs drop out of existence within 30 or 40 years itself
0:23 It's funny how you didn't flinch as Sheffield is 5th in the PL ponferrada were 3rd in la la liga and Spezia winning the seria A with Crotone qualifying for the UCL and Cittedella being that high as well. Spezia winning is crazy though, Seria A in that sim is a madness
Spezia always seem to get promoted and immediately get European football in my save with Milan. They got promoted in the 2027/2028 season and immediately got 5th then 3rd.
It's obvious that@@TomFM knows little about football outside the UK or some of the top European leagues. You can really see that he has never heard of some of the clubs that should be well known to a seasoned FM player. For example, when he says that AIK is from Malmö or when he refers to Sedan as Ardennes.
@@TomFM Has to be some odd beta bug no? I'm in the first season and there's so many 'bad' teams doing really well and good teams doing really bad... It's like every team no matter what quality of players always are just on even ground (This is how it looks on my save)
It could be fun to see these simulations but on other continents. Also, I'm really surprised that Monza (Brianza) and Napoli (Parthenope) are unlicensed.
I love the fact that when you checked the UECL, I saw Châteauroux winning the title once while the team is currently in the 3rd division and is a semi-pro team 🙃
I mean i've had some crazy promotions and relegations in FM22 but this is mental. Maybe a bit too much. Looks like teams just rise/fall way too fast, seeing how quickly you get these crazy UEL and UECL winners. I mean as a longterm player this really makes every save unique but maybe tone it done just a little bit.
Can't really confirm this. Simmed to 2050 now and everthing looks fine. Maybe this depends on how your game is set up. The most oulandish european cup winner is FC zurich winning the conference league in 2043. Which i'm totally ok with. CL winners are your usual suspects.
Would be nice if you can look at the player records. Was there a newgen legend that won 10 Ballon d'ors for instance? I assume that there could have been one at Newcastle in their dominant years. And what did his attributes look like? I hope you do a second video of this experiment.
My club, SC Bastia, won the Conference League in 2119/20 (timestamp 10:40) are in the 2122/23 Europa League (timestamp 12:25) all the while not being in the 2122/23 Ligue 1 (timestamp 8:52)!
Honestly I like all the change, however this is probably too mental, also hoping someone creates a databse where the CL Format doesn't change cus for sure I'll be using that
As a Bristol Rovers fan it's amazing to see them win a Europa Conference League title, and make Champions League and Europa League finals, and also reaching 2nd in the Premier League. Although it did take about 90 years haha
I wasn't born when we played against Ajax in the European Cup Final back on 1970-71 but I hope that I'll be able to see my team Panathinaikos to a Champions League final one day and hopefully win it as well ☘️☘️☘️
I actually gotta say, "I like the unpredictability of the game now," it will make every save feel more unique and in all honesty it would be boring to just play against Man City and Man United and Liverpool in the Champions League, I want to see smaller teams in there creating their own dynasties because realistically Liverpool, Man United and Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham will not always be top tier English premier league teams with all of them coming in the 1st-6th positions all the time.
Great video Tom, but sends alarm bellls for the game that this could happen. Maybe 2 or 3 shock teams in the prem, but wtf, its completely different Costa Rica winning a world cup too? The game is possibly broke
I’ve seen other videos with the same procedure and whats really interesting is that St. Pauli always seem to develop pretty good and always settle in the Bundesliga while dominating it for quite some time. Wonder why this happens or why FM thinks St. Pauli is going to be that good in the future.
I just realised Tom you do likely have serie C loaded but it's 3 different divisions below what's normally serie C as Serie C overall is more a playoff thing / battle between those that qualify from serie C/A C/B and C/C
That Polish team Rakow are actually an interesting story only being in the top league for the third year now coming in runners up and winning the Polish cup two years running. Their manager is wanted for some of the biggest jobs in polish football, but is considering leaving the get altogether in a few years
Please do the same experiment but with Brasileirão and argentina league (or include them whenever you do these), would be very nice to see it too being from Brazil.
What i don’t like about FM when simulating a lot of seasons, is how the teams from the big cities fall off dramatically. I think it’s nice to see some cinderella stories, like Wrexham winning the CL, or a changing of the guard, but it’s highly unrealistic that no team from Milan is even in Serie A, that Napoli or Roma suck, but Cittadella can win the CL, or that Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Bayern and Real Madrid (the King’s team) are all in disarray. Also, total domination by one side is no fun (Man City, Monza/Brianza, Newcastle). I hope someday they can mitigate this tendency
German teams did amazing in this video! Even though - and I love that as a German - it is NOT Bayern or Dortmund! There were multiple international titles, divided between tams like Kaiserslautern, Eintracht Braunschweig, 1. FC Heidenheim, several finals reached by Fortuna Düsseldorf, VfL Osnabrück, FC Ingolstadt, 1860 Munich... And I also love the (at least little) rise of the Polish Ekstraklasa!
Union Berlin in the 3rd division of Germany 4 seasons after winning the title in the top division . The game gets a bit mad after 100 years this year it seems
Tom! You probably had Serie C loaded, you just got confused by the old Serie C screen. If you kept going you would've found the 3 current Serie C leagues.
@@TomFM Barrow went on a 320 game unbeaten streak from 2085 and also Man City got relegated all the way to the Northern premier league (non league) but still with rich owners
As a Villa fan it seems nothing changes. I've watched loads of these kinds of videos over the years and while all sorts of random teams win stuff, Villa sink without trace usually getting relegated and never coming back. That being said, this is the lowest I've seen FM sink them yet.
I’m a new viewer & I heard a mention about Lincoln city!! Are you from Lincoln like myself or just support them? Never heard of outsiders supporting the imps really🤷🏼♂️😂
How is Holstein Kiel II in the third division while Holstein Kiel is in the second? In German football the reserves and the first team have to have at least one league between them
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This is really nuts. I do wonder if this is intended or indicative of a bug. I'm hoping it's more on the intended side, but it's hard to imagine how a team like Man U could drop so low. I'd love to see a deep dive into some of these teams to see how it went wrong for them.
I feel like maybe because the match engine is a bit more "chaotic" lower end teams can topple bigger teams easier, slowly rising above them.
I really hope it's intended. Makes a game way more interesting later on when you're challenging new teams
To be fair, big teams failing over 2 or 3 decades is very common. If you look at english football before the united and liverpool wins, it puts things into perspective. So in 100 years it does make sense things change so much.
But, it is definitely insane that top clubs drop out of existence within 30 or 40 years itself
@@aries666dc it’s impossible today because of the financial dominance of these teams
@Dragon Of The West I checked but 1922 still had Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton, Aston Villa, Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea in it.
Union Berlin went from winning the league in 2119/20 to being in the 3rd tier 4 years later! Wow!
Almost opposite of What theyre doing rn
0:23 It's funny how you didn't flinch as Sheffield is 5th in the PL ponferrada were 3rd in la la liga and Spezia winning the seria A with Crotone qualifying for the UCL and Cittedella being that high as well. Spezia winning is crazy though, Seria A in that sim is a madness
Spezia just a class club in my mind clearly 😂
Spezia always seem to get promoted and immediately get European football in my save with Milan. They got promoted in the 2027/2028 season and immediately got 5th then 3rd.
It's obvious that@@TomFM knows little about football outside the UK or some of the top European leagues. You can really see that he has never heard of some of the clubs that should be well known to a seasoned FM player. For example, when he says that AIK is from Malmö or when he refers to Sedan as Ardennes.
This is crazy, it’s not been out for a couple of days
only takes a few hours to do this though
Oh man I hope this means there’s at least some more randomisation across different saves, instead of the top clubs staying at the top mostly 😮❤
Fingers crossed that is the case and not some odd beta bug!
@@TomFM Has to be some odd beta bug no? I'm in the first season and there's so many 'bad' teams doing really well and good teams doing really bad... It's like every team no matter what quality of players always are just on even ground (This is how it looks on my save)
It could be fun to see these simulations but on other continents.
Also, I'm really surprised that Monza (Brianza) and Napoli (Parthenope) are unlicensed.
I think the Italian clubs have exclusive licences with other companies, I think Konami for eFootball
Even if this isn't necessarily realistic I'm really glad it's like this.
It's certainly a lot more fun this way!
@@TomFM how can i simulate so much yrs?
These experiments are really fun to watch! Can you maybe put the Dutch league in your videos as well?
Hartlepool winning the Champions League. I wish Jeff Stelling by some miracle managed to stay alive all that time to see it.
I love the fact that when you checked the UECL, I saw Châteauroux winning the title once while the team is currently in the 3rd division and is a semi-pro team 🙃
I mean i've had some crazy promotions and relegations in FM22 but this is mental. Maybe a bit too much. Looks like teams just rise/fall way too fast, seeing how quickly you get these crazy UEL and UECL winners. I mean as a longterm player this really makes every save unique but maybe tone it done just a little bit.
I mean the massive clubs stayed massive for 50 years, before starting to fall off. It’s not too bad, we just expect the norm of the current world
@@rileypassias2549 Doing a sim myself and so far and around 2040 it looks okay. Most major clubs are still major.
Can't really confirm this. Simmed to 2050 now and everthing looks fine. Maybe this depends on how your game is set up. The most oulandish european cup winner is FC zurich winning the conference league in 2043. Which i'm totally ok with. CL winners are your usual suspects.
22/23 is the best season for the north east, Gateshead winning europa league and Newcastle winning the champions league. scenes on Tyneside
Benfica's curse continues, 4 or 5 more finals and lost every single one
As a Sutton united fan I love that they always do well in your videos 💛🖤🤗
I wish this wasn't just Europe, I care much more about the Brazilian and Argentinian leagues than Wales or Ireland.
Shut up christiano irish league is class
I would love to see uruguayan league
You can sim it yourself, takes a few hours though
@@sam_marley
Well, I would need FM 23 and a computer capable of running it
As a swede and a Malmö fan, I am incredibly offended by you suggesting AIK is from Malmö?! THOSE RATS AREN'T IN OUR SEWERS
That UCL/UEL/UECL format is hell, but I'm actually so happy it made it to FM
you should also show us winners of euro or copa amercia ;D
Good to see St. Pauli winning something, even if it's only in FM.
Love to see Shrewsbury getting 3rd once! And even Tom pronounced it right
9:56 Always find those moments amusing haha. Do you leave them in on purpose or just an oversight?
Ohhh I like this. So much better then when the leagues look mainly the same after 100 years
came across this video, was great. As a Costa Rican, I was shocked when you said we would win the WC. 🇨🇷⚽
Finally seeing some variation with teams doing well or poorly after a while
As a Newcastle fan I enjoyed this video 😂
same lol
🤣👍🏻
Would be nice if you can look at the player records. Was there a newgen legend that won 10 Ballon d'ors for instance? I assume that there could have been one at Newcastle in their dominant years. And what did his attributes look like? I hope you do a second video of this experiment.
My club, SC Bastia, won the Conference League in 2119/20 (timestamp 10:40) are in the 2122/23 Europa League (timestamp 12:25) all the while not being in the 2122/23 Ligue 1 (timestamp 8:52)!
AIK is from Solna in Stockholm, Sweden. It's the club where Alexander Isak started in.
Amazing Video.
Great to see 1860 Munich in the German Bundesliga 😊💙🤍
Honestly I like all the change, however this is probably too mental, also hoping someone creates a databse where the CL Format doesn't change cus for sure I'll be using that
that was some mental changes in 100 years. Gotta love that Norway finally did well, hopefully that can be in real life :')
As a Bristol Rovers fan it's amazing to see them win a Europa Conference League title, and make Champions League and Europa League finals, and also reaching 2nd in the Premier League. Although it did take about 90 years haha
gotta love, no title for United for the next 100 years!
I wasn't born when we played against Ajax in the European Cup Final back on 1970-71 but I hope that I'll be able to see my team Panathinaikos to a Champions League final one day and hopefully win it as well ☘️☘️☘️
Literally insane! Love it!
Wrexham make it to the Prem and 76 yrs later are in the Championship, with Chester deadstone last in the national league. Beautiful
7:46 the stats there have bugged out, apparently no one had scored a goal in the bundesliga after 4 gameweeks
13:17 from malmö... malmö and AIK Stockholm are HUGE rivals...
I actually gotta say, "I like the unpredictability of the game now," it will make every save feel more unique and in all honesty it would be boring to just play against Man City and Man United and Liverpool in the Champions League, I want to see smaller teams in there creating their own dynasties because realistically Liverpool, Man United and Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham will not always be top tier English premier league teams with all of them coming in the 1st-6th positions all the time.
No but all of them disappearing feels wrong
0:23 look at the first headline for La Liga, does that mean Simeone is still manager of Atletico after 15 years? Crazy
Great video Tom, but sends alarm bellls for the game that this could happen. Maybe 2 or 3 shock teams in the prem, but wtf, its completely different
Costa Rica winning a world cup too? The game is possibly broke
Just FYI that Brianza team you were talking about are actually AC Monza. FM just doesn’t have their naming license
That blood money sure does win titles, nice work man city and Newcastle
"no title for Manchester United for 100 years" 😂
As a rangers fan. Liked and subscribed. Great content. 😂😂 (was already subscribed knew it was a good idea)
As a hull fan,I am extremely happy with this future.
Always love watching these 100-year simulation vids, but wasn’t excepting my local side Sutton to be the most recent champions by any means 😂😂
Im a newcastle fan and I'm very happy
As a Hannover 96 Fan i can say, buy Tresoldi early, as soon as Hannover goes into div 1 hes sky rocking
I’ve seen other videos with the same procedure and whats really interesting is that St. Pauli always seem to develop pretty good and always settle in the Bundesliga while dominating it for quite some time. Wonder why this happens or why FM thinks St. Pauli is going to be that good in the future.
Stafford Rangers still can't get above National League North 100 years later 😭 love your videos!
Your content is on point fm23, cheers mate
Ayo heerenveen have a golden boy the coming years, nice
I’m from Grimsby and this was fun to watch
I just realised Tom you do likely have serie C loaded but it's 3 different divisions below what's normally serie C as Serie C overall is more a playoff thing / battle between those that qualify from serie C/A C/B and C/C
That Polish team Rakow are actually an interesting story only being in the top league for the third year now coming in runners up and winning the Polish cup two years running. Their manager is wanted for some of the biggest jobs in polish football, but is considering leaving the get altogether in a few years
Please do the same experiment but with Brasileirão and argentina league (or include them whenever you do these), would be very nice to see it too being from Brazil.
What i don’t like about FM when simulating a lot of seasons, is how the teams from the big cities fall off dramatically. I think it’s nice to see some cinderella stories, like Wrexham winning the CL, or a changing of the guard, but it’s highly unrealistic that no team from Milan is even in Serie A, that Napoli or Roma suck, but Cittadella can win the CL, or that Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Bayern and Real Madrid (the King’s team) are all in disarray. Also, total domination by one side is no fun (Man City, Monza/Brianza, Newcastle). I hope someday they can mitigate this tendency
2122/23 Champions League Final Venue being Old Trafford despite Man Utd league two status.
German teams did amazing in this video! Even though - and I love that as a German - it is NOT Bayern or Dortmund! There were multiple international titles, divided between tams like Kaiserslautern, Eintracht Braunschweig, 1. FC Heidenheim, several finals reached by Fortuna Düsseldorf, VfL Osnabrück, FC Ingolstadt, 1860 Munich...
And I also love the (at least little) rise of the Polish Ekstraklasa!
Hansa Rostock, MSV Duisburg, etc.
'That's annoying because it's not Lincoln City', im actually a Grimsby Town fan UTM! dont hate on the Great Grimsby
The Greek side! Or else... The European shamrock ☘️☘️! Panathinakos❤️
Love you bro from Indonesia
One time when u do this lincoln will win tje prem fingers crossed
1:32 Nordsjælland legend
Union Berlin in the 3rd division of Germany 4 seasons after winning the title in the top division . The game gets a bit mad after 100 years this year it seems
The first person to do a 100 years in the future nice 👍
As a Tranmere fan, I hope to live another 100 years to witness this premier league victory 😂
As a Benfica fan it's sad to witness that Bella Gutmman curse on winning any European title it's on this game too 😩
Tom! You probably had Serie C loaded, you just got confused by the old Serie C screen. If you kept going you would've found the 3 current Serie C leagues.
CARDIFF COTY HAVE ACTUALLY WON ATUFF IN AN FM EXPERIMENT LETS GOOOOO
Only have to wait 40 more years to see my club Wigan win the prem, I can’t wait
I literally just did this lmao. The results were hilarious at the end
Also first!
What results did you see at the end of your simulation?
@@TomFM Barrow went on a 320 game unbeaten streak from 2085 and also Man City got relegated all the way to the Northern premier league (non league) but still with rich owners
04:20 Peterborough Sports are in 13th place in the NL North after today's 0:0 result
the video we've all been waiting for
2:45 I like how you said " shame it's not lincoln" lol
mansfield most insane to win conference league
solihull moors: am i a joke to you
Wow simming in FM23 and it's only been 3 days? wowzers
Argyle runner ups in the 2096/97 season then went down to league 1 but hey at least we were runner ups in the champions league
my country South Africa always producing quality players somehow
As a Villa fan it seems nothing changes. I've watched loads of these kinds of videos over the years and while all sorts of random teams win stuff, Villa sink without trace usually getting relegated and never coming back. That being said, this is the lowest I've seen FM sink them yet.
Has to be the most random 100 years video I have seen.
Player : lets simulate for 100 years
AI : okay, i will do what the fu€k i want.
I love this Experiment.
Can I ask, how do you do this experiment? Would love to try it on my own game but I can't get past the 30 season mark.
Love seeing Wigan up there
Woah, another lincoln fan. (I was born in Lincoln) Grimsby winning really does piss me off
2:27 COME ON YOU ROBINS
Could you give every Irish premier league perfect youth facilities and see if it improves the league position in the world and their national team
So when charlton finally come good, I'll be 84!
First! 😁 I’d love to see what the MLS would look like in 100 years!
What are you using?
omg Saint-Etienne loosing a european (euro league) final in 1966 in Glasgow... looks like destiny
a bulgarian team winning an european trophy we can all dream of it rn
I’m a new viewer & I heard a mention about Lincoln city!! Are you from Lincoln like myself or just support them? Never heard of outsiders supporting the imps really🤷🏼♂️😂
How is Holstein Kiel II in the third division while Holstein Kiel is in the second? In German football the reserves and the first team have to have at least one league between them
The Bundesliga had 16 different winners in 23 years.. wow
”AIK from Malmö I believe” 😂 They are from Solna, Stockholm. 🤣
It’s only been 2 days my goodness Tom😂
start showing the Portuguese League Tom! way more interesting than the Welsh or Irish leagues.