So I Just Finished Dark Souls…
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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:11 - My History with FromSoft
05:17 - The Context For This Playthrough
08:21 - World & Level Design
16:03 - Moment to Moment Combat & Bosses
22:09 - Story, Themes & Tone
28:28 - Updates & Outro 
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![Dark Souls, but every enemy is MANUS - [Part 1]](/img/1.gif)
With regards to my comments on O&S, I’m not married to the take, it was just my thoughts after my initial play through.
Obviously people have some strong thoughts against what I said and that’s fair, I appreciate the input! I don’t even think it’s a bad fight, I had fun. I just felt that sometimes the fight was a little bullshit, with how Ornstein would dash to you, sometimes glitching out on the pillars, it didn’t feel entirely perfectly designed as a lot of the singular bosses had prior to that point. But I still found it fun, and it’s still leagues above other game’s boss design, I more so meant in contrast to earlier fights in DS it felt a little less refined.
As someone that has played these games to death and beaten them at level 1, I 100% agree with you. Not to say that this the standard that a boss should be judged on, but at level 1 you tend to spend a lot of time with these bosses and learn all their intricacies and their quirks. O&S is bullshit, mainly due to ornstein's incredibly buggy charge move, its rare that it doesn't get caught either a pillar or smough, causing the animation to bug out, but it has a few other issues too. I still like the fight though despite its flaws, but I think most people are attached to it for the atmosphere and buildup to the encounter, it really does feel like the climax of the game and it is a massive difficulty spike so understandably a lot people probably feel a sense of pride for making it past them. Great video by the way.
any chance of making witcher videos again? I just finished watching the witcher 3 base game,hos,b&w and needless to say it was an amazing ride! i miss your witcher retrospectives...We would like more gw-I meant witcher!witcher!
@@arthasmenethil5748 Only just saw this comment, thanks for the kind words! I'm planning eventually to tackle TW1 and 2, but also to revisit TW3 for the 10 year anniversary. I feel I could analyse them in a different way with a slightly different focus and perspective that might be interesting to do, so that's something that may be on the cards!
@@LazerzZ haha it's okay! I love your work. Any chance of also covering the warcraft franchise?
I think you really missed out on the story in my opinion. The story of Dark Souls is one of perseverance. We are undead, and have to make the pilgrimage to defeat Gwen. We are not the first, and will not be the last. Ever item you pick up comes from a corpse. The corpse of an undead who made it further than you, or the items are from defeated enemies. The enemies are NPCs who went hollow. Soilders, thieves, clerics, they all have a story, a life. The story is incredibly meta because every player to ever pick up the game leaves an impact. If they stopped playing after 30 minutes, you can interpret that as them “going hollow” and turning into an enemy in the game. This also happens with NPCs. There are also NPCs who want you to win and encourage you, the same way players leaving helpful messages, join during bosses, and making real world guides. We are all undead, with a grand quest. Not every player made it to the end, so what pushed you to finish? For me it was bring an end to the misery of that world, and seeing if I could truly make it to the end. It was hard, but in a way it mirrors real life. How people in the real world lose their sanity and end up on the streets. Its up to me to hold it together and make it.
Besides that great video chief
I do agree with you, I just felt I was unable to properly comment on the story without feeling completely out of my depth. I think the game says a lot and I think it does it eloquently. I said what I could but I need more experience before I could attempt to dive into it properly, there’s so many nuances.
Really great comment, said it all very well.
Good comment except that's not the truth of the story. Humans are being fed the false story of pilgrimage and fire linking by Gwyndolin. Gwyn is terrified of the imminent age of humanity, and is using us to prolong his age of light.
@@LazerzZ congrats on beating dark souls, what is your weapon of choice? mine is the battle axe, ohh and ornstein and smough are a very balanced boss fight depending on your stats/weapon you would have to use cover to bait one or the other for an opening its pretty much a dark souls themed chess game took me on my first playthough a full week to defeat them, my first souls game was dark souls 3, ive been a fan for a long time like from the assassins creed 3 lore/theory days
@@darthshard8967I ended up with the Iaito, just worked super well for the way I played
@@LazerzZ the laito katana is a fun weapon, with the master key you can get it right after defeating the asylum demon , I did a katana only run and duel katanas can make quite the fashion souls
Dont know man, Ornstein and Smough is a great bossfight, the light and fast attacks of Ornstein complement Smoughs heavy attacks perfectly.
Eh, it felt pretty unrefined to me. The concept is cool but the execution felt a little bullshit.
Godskin duo is an example of a fight like ornstein and smough, but is true bullshit
What part of Ornstein and fatter Ornstein reading your inputs and spamming attacks is bullshit?
@@LazerzZdunno man, never had problems with it. In fact I always thought it's one of the easier boss fights in the game. Just try to separate the two as much as possible and focus on one at a time while hiding behind the pillars if possible. Also, don't rely on lock on. It's just gonna make it harder.
@@anotherhappylanding4746I love O&S but god I hated Godskin. It wouldn’t have been nearly as bad if they didn’t respawn and if Godskin Noble wasn’t already a bull shit boss with its roll
Annnndddd we love those massive f*cking videos. We will wait. Take your time. I think we can all agree the more time you take on things the better the product.
Beating your first boss is that satisfying factor for me that got me into the souls game. Up till now I'm still a fan
I think your experience with bloodborne is really common. I feel like Bloodborne is the best game to start with as it is the easiest one to get it to click, that's how it was for me as well. I spent a long time genuinely disliking the souls games and after bloodborne i finally understood it, and it deeply enhanced my enjoyment of the rest of the soulsborne games
I'm glad you finally got around to play through it! It's my favorite dark souls game. It's always a joy to see people struggle through this game for the first time.
Awesome to see how much it clicked with you. I 100% agree that the world design is one of the best parts of the game (and for me personally, it's still FromSoftware's best game in that regard). The other part of the game that you didn't really touch on but that made a huge impact with me when I first played it, is the music. The score/soundtrack is absolutely incredible across the entire game, and it really helps to elevate both the subtle atmosphere and the more epic moments. The menu theme, Firelink Shrine theme, and Gwyn's theme are my personal favourites. I can't imagine Gwyn's fight without that theme, it's just perfect.
Yeah I completely agree, the music is used so well but also sparingly, the way they dont use music ALL the time, helps to give it weight when it is used, I really love it.
Yep completely agree, 90% if the time your just accompanied by your footsteps @LazerzZ
I love the confidence of the Souls games, the fact that you have to engage and play on their level is something that's hard to pull off in a satisfying way. The slow trudge towards mastery, towards becoming your own boss, is a large part of what took me a while to click with, especially after playing a lot of games where success is just handed to you. Dark Souls 3 was the first souls game I played all the way through, just before Elden Ring came out, and that's where the formula clikced for me which allowed me to totally fall in love with Elden Ring making it one of four games I've spent 100+ hours on. Now that your opinion has changed on them it'll be interesting to see what you think of the other games.
Great video btw, never played Dark souls 1 but this has made me really want to!
Bloodborne is where it clicked for me as well.....and since then I've finished all FromSoft has to offer
Great video as always James! One recommendation I have if you're planning to experience the fromsoft series is basically to treat every game at it's own merits. Even better if you get into the rabbit hole of learning the lore and the story (along with hidden stuff) then I think you're really gonna love your time man. Especially in the case of elden ring and bloodborne, the character arcs and their backgrounds are fascinating.
I just watched Jacks gameplay so thank you for so perfect timing 😊
I have followed you for so long that your videos remind me of my childhood!
That’s pretty crazy, I appreciate you 🙏🏻
Great vid! Have yet to play any souls or souls like games other than fallen order and dabbling in dark souls 3 and bloodborne and they were already on my incredibly lengthy games i want to get to but this video reaffirmed their being there.
Looking forward to that black flag vid and whatever else you cool up this year, sure they'll all be bangers
A great journey ahead of you. Walk softly and carry a big sword.
You have three more worlds to immerse yourself in with Sekiro, Dark Souls 3 & Lies of P. I’m very interested what you’ll think of Sekiro given what you said about Bloodborne 💪🏻
I’m looking forward to Sekiro for sure, heard nothing but good things and it look tremendous. Lies of P is on my list too, I loved the demo
I've only played Sekiro and Elden Ring and will say both were some of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had. Sekiro is just special. So challenging, but once it clicks, there's nothing like it.
One more world that everyone forgets, Dark Souls 2
@@malchychyjones7017 I personally never recommend it because I hate the game. I’m a gameplay guy so It doesn’t exist
Dark Souls1 did the most to transport my mind, my soul into the world of the game. I just remember the sheer panic I had when I realized I could no longer homeward bone back to my previous bonfire and would need climb back out of blight town, after I rested at a bonfire there.
I don't keep up with streams much anymore, but I am glad you enjoyed and that it finally clicked for you. I hope you will enjoy the other games just as much. A word of advice with with Dark Souls 2 though: I know the feeling of "obligation" to finish these games, but take it from me when I say that if you find yourself not enjoying Dark Souls 2-just quit. It won't reward you in the end unless you actively enjoy it from start to finish, and you can look past mechanics that don't work properly. I still recommend giving it a fair shot, and finding out for yourself though.
Its so weird seeing ornstein and smough after 3 hours 39 minutes of the witcher 3
I have no idea what this means but it made me laugh anyway
@@LazerzZ the 3 hours and 39 minutes are from your witcher 3 retrospective, by the way nice retrospective
The hard part about blighttown is that it's 10 fps (not joking) on 360 and PS3
Good thing we’re playing on PS5
@@joshuatealeaves I was talking about where that "blight town is hard" talk came from. No shit it's out for PS5, PC etc.
@@misterhoobomaster I know what you were talking about. I said what I said with relief. “Good thing we’re playing on PS5 🥲”
You misinterpreted what I said as being combative
Ah true, I didn’t have to put up with that 😅
Nah I actually didn't but I did sound like a dick in return (for no real reason) Sorry lol @@joshuatealeaves
Oooh excited to watch this one!
This game grabs you and shakes you like a pair of maracas.
It can really spoil other games for you.
Seeing other people find this series makes me really happy and I'm excited to hear your story 😊
Take my sub gamer, excited to see your thoughts on DS2.
you are the only game review channel I watch they all seem like they just regurgitate what the other one says and don’t add much of their own perspective to it But you always Put out thought, provoking content and I always come away with a new perspectives on whichever game you are covering keep up the excellent work, brother, and take care! :)
I really appreciate that, I try my best to make what I have to say as unique and personal as I can, means a lot to hear that resonates 🙏🏻
Im playong bloodborne for the frist time after playing every other soulds game, its the best imo
quite excited to see your opinions on ds 2 and 3 and see what you think of sekiro, which i will always say sekiro is hardest first playthrough because the fundamental mechanics change to what you become used to in the fromsoft formula, but i think you’ll enjoy sekiro and what it has to offer and i think itll be a nice inbetween ds3 and elden ring, if youre thinking about tackling sekiro that is.
I can't wait for you to experience Dark Souls 3, that one is my personal favorite and serves as the perfect sendoff for the Souls series imo
Also a fun fact: Gwyn's theme is played on only white keys, because Gwyn feared the Dark
It's such a shame the Souls series is only known for "being the hard games" because they're actually some of the best examples of atmospheric storytelling in video games. I'm not even a big "world building" person, but the way these games use their setting is fantastic. Could go on for ages about how fantastic the Hunter's Dream from Bloodbourne is. Glad the series finally click for you!
I hope you stream dark souls 2 if you decide to play it, that game is so much fun
Are you on spotify or any other platform? Id like to listen to your breakdowns while im at work and just play the audio
I am not sadly, only Spotify I have is one for my podcast Horsey & Fox. I do have audio commentaries on Patreon but again that’s Patreon so probably not the best option if you’re not looking to buy into anything.
It’d be solid if RUclips let you listen to audio of videos without having premium. I don’t plan to put the audio of my videos on Spotify at any point mainly because I need to drive as much traffic as possible to RUclips to pay my bills, so apologies for that.
I think only downside of the souls franchise is the 'Click' it REQUIRES to enjoy it. I'm glad that you liked it and hopefully we'll get to see your journey throughout the fromsoft games.
And yes, we'll wait patiently for those massive videos.
Bloodborne is still my favorite souls game. It’s also the game where it clicked for me so I’m glad that’s your experience as well
What were your feelins on the Sif fight?
I really liked it, I didn’t love killing a big dog, especially when he started limping, just wanted to give the fella a hand, but the fight slapped.
Yeah, the fight itself is bad enough. But when you add on the music and the backstory you find out about him and his relationship with Artorius, its even worse.@@LazerzZ
I can't wait for you to play Elden Ring as someone who wasn't into the souls games, even before I finished it I knew it was going to be one of my favorite games of all time. And I have to let you know, once you really get into Elden Ring it will be very hard to go back to any other souls game, except maybe Sekiro and make sure you have this itch for an open world experience, because its very long and it probably has the biggest open world ever created.
I think you didnt struggle with blighttown bc you played DS1 Remastered :D Try Blighttown with 22 FPS
That is a great point...
fantastico
You felt like there was something off about Anor Londo, did you? I wonder why 😉 😂
İ wish that you would try sekiro i honestly think you would absolutely love it!!
I'm planning to give it a go sometime down the line for sure!
Regarding Dark Souls 2.
IF you don't like it I have a suggestion for you.
*Its troubled development (not made by Miyazaki who was busy making Bloodborne) led to many compromises with the controls feeling off, the lighting and hit boxes are a mess, sound effects are a step back, the dodge/roll & Estus drinking/item use (WTF!) mechanic is tied to a vague STAT (called ADP) & the enemy placement is terrible with gank squads the new norm - breaking away from the methodical combat and carefully curated placement/experience you would have come to expect ala DS1.
IF you too find yourself repulsed by DS2 -- I highly recommend a mod for it --
Seeker of Fire:
It fixes the controls + rolling to emulate DS1/DS3 (making it static & equip load based), adjusts enemy placement, fixes the sound effects, hit boxes and much of the lighting + jank and bugs (eg actually allowing you to walk and drink estus like DS1) and incomplete/wrong map design (mostly cosmetic to actually make certain things make sense now) of the normal version in a very tasteful way while retaining the core experience (+ some nice surprise add-ons).
I absolutely love it now (probably more than DS3) and will never play the godawful normal version again. I know lots of people like it and may consider this scrilegious but whatever. Regardless, there is a lot to love about DS2 and it would be a shame to miss out on it in one form or another.
TLDR -- Normal DS2 SOTFS = bad: Seeker of Fire mod fixes most problems I have with it.
Interesting, I will consider that but I also do want to try and play through the original game as it was made before I resort to mods, but I appreciate the heads up
Thanks for this tip mate. Caught the souls bug from Elden ring and have been working through them and had assumed I'd play DS2 last, if at all, for all the bad press.
I'll give it a spin before the souls likes I've been looking into now.
Assume it works with scholar version? Is it on nexus mods?
I thought i remembered you playing dark souls on the horsey and fox channel?
In 2018 we did play a small chunk of Dark Souls, but I never touched the controller and honestly was not paying attention, all I can remember is the Ornstein and Smough fight, this all felt totally fresh to me.
If you haven't played Sekiro I think you should. I think you'd really like it.
I will get on that eventually, it’s always looked like an incredible game
sekiro is the goat imo when it comes to fromsoft games.
Ornstein and Smough makes sense and feels less bullshitty once you utilize the pillars. Since I’ve done that I haven’t lost to them in a while (that is if you kill Ornstein first). Otherwise I think it still holds up as a great boss fight that fromsoft hasn’t truly been able to master again (with a few exceptions like Shadows of Yarnham). Their attempt at this (duo boss fight) in Elden Ring was terrible. Godskin duo was literally just two really agressive enemies trying to hit you at the same time (instead of one fast and one slow)
Maybe you should break down your ACIV retrospective into 2 parts!😅 Easier for the audience to digest and potentially more profitable for you. Though before making such a decision, you should definitely finish the script first.
Also don't put too much pressure on yourself. Distracting yourself from the big projects every now and then by putting out a smaller video like this, might make it easier for you!
Appreciate the kind words and support. I think while I could split it into two parts, when it's that long and also time stamped, I might as well drop it all at once. Those who want to watch it in parts can and those who want to raw dog the entire thing at once can also do that 😂
Very nice video. I always love hearing people's thoughts on DARK SOULS as its a game that means a lot to me.
I definitely agree on basically everything you said. But I don't understand your Ornstein and Smough fight. It was kind of baffling to hear, you mention how they wouldn't be good on their own which you're right about. But that's a good thing. It's a duo fight the first phase is the memorable part they synch up well with each other. Ornstein constantly pressuring you but on his own leaving damage opportunities to exploit. But if you overextend the Smough you've been ignoring punishes you. You compare it to the Shadows of Yarhnam a fight I also enjoy but doesn't really match the greatness of O and S. I'm not really trying to change your mind just present my own perspective.
I don't want this to just be a rant comment so I'll end with saying DS1 got me out of a kinda rough spot in life. I wasn't suicidal or anything thankfully. But aimless was the best way I could describe it. I was never able to finish what I started whether it be games or hobbies. I never had a single player game that really engaged me on its merits of story alone. So DS1 was revitalising I couldn't look away the whole game was magnificent even if the latter section was less so. So I love DS1 and really enjoyed hearing you talk about it.
Sorry about the long comment also DS2 is really good when it isn't pretending to be bad.
Yeah I mean, I get what the fight is going for, I appreciate everyone else’s perspective, it just felt very unrefined despite having a sound concept, I felt myself being unfairly treated when I hadn’t at any other points before or after that fight. I’m not steadfast in that opinion though, just my feelings after one playthrough.
I think the oddest thing about DS1 is how open it feels. For example in my first playthrough I 5 shot the bell gargoyles because I got a Black Night Sword and upgraded it with Andre. I fought Sif before the Bell Gargoyles because that was the order I found them.
So for me I blitzed the game on my first playthrough. The only bosses who killed me more than once were the bed of chaos in the base game and Kalameet in the dlc. Everyone else including some bosses that are pretty legendary for being tough like Manus, O and S, Artorias and more not really hard at all. I feel kinda split on this. Orphan of Kos destroying me for 20+ attempts, Midir slaying me for hours, the Fume Knight, Demon of Hatred, etc. The challenge in the other games felt more designed to be overcome whereas DS1 there wasn't much to overcome. Oddly enough DS1 was my first Souls game too so I would say to me at least, DS1 is the easiest souls game by a decent margin.
Great game, but to me it is one of the weaker from soft games due to the second half of the game.
Ornstein and Smough s not bullshit, you just had wrong strategy. Use pillars, be patient, don't lock on enemy, run a lot, and this fight is easy.
This ^
🙏🏿👊🏿
This is great! I love people playing darksouls as much as playing it. One of the best games ever made.
Do Sekiro next
I would highly recommend replaying dark souls with a guide for some of the quests. It's worth it to see Siegmeyer and Solarie's questline to completion. Even Lautrec completing his quest once. Also unlocking the alternative Sif cutscene. It just adds so much more to the story, and it's cool FromSoft added all these details for players to find.
And I know others have recommended Sekiro and so would I. The combat I guess you could say is a bit more like Bloodborne so it might be more for you, but also like an aggressive dance between two people and takes parrying to a whole new level. There is no other game with Sekiro's level of combat in my opinion.
Definitely will do, I want to go back in and experience all the bits I missed out on for sure. And Sekiro is on the list, I’ll play that one eventually.
Time to play darksouls 3 , sekiro
Not a game for me unfortunately. I love the idea but i get frustrated and disheartened too easily so I'd just end up hating myself for a while. I'm glad it exists though.
Dark Souls is made to be broken by the player. So it's really up to the player how prepared they want to be for fights.
Can't wait for "Dark souls III is bad" video that will inevitably come
Why?
@@joshpasco6083I can't really explain, or more accurately, I can't articulate it properly. In broad terms it has to do with how DS3 is actually quite different from DS1. So he will, most likely, expect more of the same bosses, level design, design philosophy etc in DS3 as in DS1. He will probably say that its just not the same, or that it misses the point, something along those lines, I guess. This is purely speculative tho, so idk, maybe he'll like it.
I really hope not, I've heard lots of good things about DS3 and how it plays with the themes of the first. I know no game comes close to the intricate interconnected world as the first game but I'm content with that, Bloodborne was tremendous despite not building it's world like DS1, it doesn't have to.
Bro said ornstein ans smough patterns dont complement each other 😂 stick to assassin's creed bro
Love the content tho❤
play sekiro
I reached 17:05 and hearing that "Ornstein and Smough don't compliment each other" made me facepalm myself out of disbelief. Nothing could be harder from the truth (and many others will tell you that). I do not know how it happened, but you somehow robbed yourself of one of the best fights of the entire Souls series (and, thus, one of the best boss battles in gaming). Please. PLEASE. You need to correct that at your earliest convenience. Not just for your credibility as a Souls player, but for your very soul.
I mean, they were fine, it’s a fine fight, I enjoyed winning, but I didn’t feel like it was particularly fair all the time. Maybe in concept it’s better but in its execution it can feel messy, at least it did for me.
Is this channel dead?
Just working on a big video on AC4, will be out in the next week(ish)
@@LazerzZ I see, well good luck and looking forward to it 👌