Timestamps: 00:00 PRE-INTRO 00:23 INTRO 4:19 - CHARACTER 8:19 - DIALOGUE 12:14 - CHOICE 15:56 - LEVELLING 20:44 - WORLD 28:48 - SIDE QUESTS 31:22 - MINOR ISSUES 32:17 - CULTIST SYSTEM 33:24 - DLC 33:40 - LEGACY OF THE FIRST BLADE 35:44 - THE FATE OF ATLANTIS 42:44 - CONCLUSION 43:29 - My Final Words...
The real next Assassin's Creed game is called "Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey". Ubisoft has fired developers, Desilets and those who have made great ac and now they work on Panache
"The fire doesn't look as good as it did in Origins..." And as minor a point as it is, you can't even burn away the spiderwebs in the tombs, which was strangely satisfying in Origins.
So I tried it and they do burn away, just not like in Origins. You just need to attack them once or twice with a torch , whereas in origins they burned just by walking through them.
The decent side mission you mentioned is actually the mission that they gave reviewers to play pre-game release. The only reason that much effort was put is so they could get a good initial thought from reviewers.
I have just recently finished the game,been trying to finish it for over a year, but anytime i returned to it i did few side quests just to grind for req. level for main quests and gave up coz i got bored of that grind but from all that shitty grind that was necessary to even complete the main story, this is the only side quest I vaguely remember, still feels emptier than random side interaction in Witcher 3
That reminds me so much on how in Skyrim the regions around Riverwood had more detail than the rest of the game--right down to ants on tree trunks--because of it being one of the first places Bethesda showed off and it being the areas you'll likely visit in the first couple of hours. In fact I believe it was one of the first regions the devs finished.
@@thingolox9698 I did finish all side missions and completed all spots in the map. I did not enjoy it, it is pure grind and the spots are very copy&paste, but I did it on principle so I can leave the whole game behind me with the feeling that I have finished the game (DLC missing but f this). My conclusion: It took me over 200 hours to finish the game 100%. *Two* *hundred* Bro I feel like I had more fun in my *48 hours* AC Brotherhood gameplay Don't do it. It is not worth it. Complete the main story, fight all ancient creatures and all beasts, that's enough!
I remember thinking that Assassin's Creed would culminate into a game where you play as Desmond in the modern world and finally defeat and stop abstergo and the templars once and for all. Now I wonder why they still bother with the animus and all that stuff since it's literally going no where. But Assassin's Creed has just turned into Ubisoft's Call of Duty, their FIFA. A game they will release every year, monetize and repeat the next year. It's very sad.
The next AC will be made my Ashraf Ismails team who did black flag and origins, and written by Darby McDevitt, so it should be good and well written again.
@@averystevenson7155 sure you could automatically set up the route like your horse is a Tesla, but either way you have to sit there and wait until you get there
@@x91s55 not exactly I just beat the main game and im at level 28 and only fully explored kepholonia, megaris, phokis and complete a few markers here and there in the other main regions without any xp boost really all you gotta do is kill mercenaries, hunt the cult and fight a few of the legendary animals and your good.
@@x91s55 my bad something I said seemed off, so I watched a video of the diemos final battle, i was mostly likely level 38 lmao. off by 1 digit. Its been kind of a blur because im playing odyssey and origins at the same time. I like both for what they are, though just being honest im not even interested in getting valhalla once I finish these 2, if you've played it, is it worth buying or should I wait for a price drop
i dont even think about assassins creed when playing oddyssey. i feel like exploring ancient greece as a bad ass mercenary , killing anyone i want and as a bonus i am the chosen one
@@thefreshvince879 You're playing ASSASSINS CREED Odyssey. If you don't play as an ASSASSIN in the game that is ABOUT ASSASSINS, you should play another game.
This might be just me, but I absolutely think that AC Unity was taking the series in the right direction as far as innovations it brought to the series and because it was rushed out before it was done, it was received much worse than the game actually was. It's amazing as far as the world and atmosphere you get and it's still that classic AC that I love that involves planning out assassinations. If the Co-op had actually worked too OMG it would have been so good. I wish AC would develop a multiplayer coop again where you plan assassinations with your friends and carry them out how you all see fit with comms and everything.
This. Unity had its issues, but if it was developed and optimized properly, it would have been received a lot differently. I still play Unity now because it is exactly what an AC game should be. And still looks good.
@@iraqvet87 The story would have still sucked and the melee combat was still too basic. The assassinations were great sure, but that's all it is. And Unity lacks content. Overall with its so called classic AC gameplay, Unity will still lack substance.
@@memecliparchives2254 totally agree with you...compared to new Ac games like origins it lacks a lot of content and unity combat system is not fluid at all. It's very basic.
@@iraqvet87 Unity had its issues but every game did. They revamped combat and made it not super easy. Had a good story, wasn't just a level grind. TOTALLY MASHED UP THE FREE RUNNING and made it fun!
Hate what they've done with the modern day. I remember being excited every time a new AC game would come out to figure out what will happen with Desmond next. After AC 3 it felt like the modern world has been ignored.
@Super JLK I just finished replaying AC4 yesterday and god damn that was such an awesome game. I never really cared for the present day apect of the games and I kinda liked how they did it in 4. They obviously couldn't just throw out the whole aspect of it but you can pretty much ignore most of it. Out of the 24 hours I played through the game probably around 20 minutes was taken up by the present day boredom
@Super JLK yeah I guess that would be fun. I personally didn't like it in the old games that much because I would be invested in the assassin's story and would be torn away from it for a story I didn't care for all that much. Maybe it was because I missed half of Desmond's story since AC1 and AC revelations were the only two main ac games I haven't played.
This is a big bug bear for me. It used to be a fun game, slowly unveiling a bigger story in modern day. Now I barely touch on modern day. Do absolute minimum until I can go back in the animus.
Exactly! It’s not something people usually think about though so I do get why they say that, they genuinely don’t understand that a game has to be skewed to push MTX.
The worst part about microtransactions is that there'll always be an army of shit for brains that think it's a good thing. But the best it can ever be is forgivable, and only if it doesn't hurt regular gameplay AND is necessary to keep a team funded.
I ignore them all like for real only time I bought something from them was a pack as a joke (and I never use the items I only bought the pack for the horse skin that's ot
It irritates me when people defend microtransactions with that bull, because it often means the game is unbalanced or designed in a way to make people buy that bs, so gameplay is made worse than it has to be.
I'll amend it for you, "The microtransactions are optional, unless you have no control over your impulses and emotions and absolutely, positively MUST be the most optimal character in the game... at which point, looking yourself in the mirror and wondering why you're taking a trivial amusement so seriously is probably warranted. Will anything in your life change if you beat the game without being optimal? Do you have any other hobbies or interests that involve ACTUAL accomplishments that would satisfy your desire for competency, besides a goofy video game?" That help?
It always felt weird to me that you were a demigod and yet it takes forever for you to kill anybody. I mean Arno can just slit someone's throat with a small wrist blade and fuck off in the crowd while Kassandra is slashing endlessly at one dude with God weapons and they still don't die.
Must've killed Doc Brown and Marty and took the DeLorean back 300 years lol. I don't use her, she's a bad character in my opinion anyways, but I have the option to use Evie as well.
Something that still confuses me to this day: Why is someone guardsmen in Athens putting a bounty on me for killing a soldier in Sparta and how did he find out so fucking fast?
Assassin's Creed was special because its biggest spectacle was found in the mundane for those who cared to Look & Listen. There was action and epic moments but there were also moments of serenity, walking the Roman countryside under the moonlight or stopping to watch an artist sculpt marble in Venice. Now it's just an action rpg with mythical creatures, spectacle and not much else in the way of those wonderous little details found in the moments where you'd stop to breathe.
Exactly. Don’t get me wrong I get the appeal of an action RPG with lots of loot and content totally but man, it’s just so basic and generic. Especially in comparison to the cool shit it used to be. There are more than enough games like the ac RPG’s out there but there’s really nothing like the older games. Assassins creed was cool BECAUSE it was so different and niche
I’ve spent hundreds of hours in Odyssey and love it. However, I don’t love it as an AC game because to me, Odyssey unfortunately is not an AC game. I have to mentally disconnect it from the franchise to really enjoy it.
Assassins Creed has been pretty lacking. This one was a nice refreshing change of pace. I’ve been wanting an Ancient Greek game for a long time and this scratches that itch. I wish they would have discarded the whole assassin crap and just called it Odyssey and had nothing to do with an Animus. The further away from AC this game gets the better
speaking of characters that feel real, i had a great conversation with an npc in this game. it went something like this: Npc: mysthios i need your help, i am a doctor and one of my patients has not received his medicine because it was stolen by bandits, now he is delirous and roaming the streets infecting other people. Me: Ah so you want me to get the medicine back? Npc: No i want you to kill him.
The bit about how they fucked up the date of the construction of the Pyramids by thousands of years made me want to cry. I remember as clear as yesterday all the care that was put into the history explanation bits in AC1 and AC2 to be as historically accurate as possible while still fitting the fictional narrative in them.
AC1 i think is still the best exaple of doing "Alternative history" right. Just the great balance between historically accurate things and alternative history while weaving even the very concept of "Nothing is true" into the story through dialogues of both Desmond and Altair. Like fuck, man, it pains me so much to know that there's some alternative timeline in which AC didn't turned into bullshit like Odyssey/Valhalla.
To see Unity, and to see how insane that town looked with all those NPCs made me really miss Unity. It nailed a lot of stuff despite people giving it shit. Gonna re download it now...
I did just that. I liked it well enough at launch, but after playing Odyssey it just nice to play an AC game again. Unity has it's own problems, but after patching it's a quite good game that probably got more right than wrong, and it seems that more abd more people are giving it a second chance.
Dillon Busby it’s actually incredible now. I’ve played it without zero bugs happening. The setting, the story, the lighting the music. It’s incredible. I’m downloading syndicate to give it another try. And from what I here origins is a good game, I have it, I just never opened it, it’s still in its cellophane wrapping.
@@gamemasteroffun origins was really good and it was a nice change to the series but I'm not too keen on Odyssey, Unity is probably my favorite game in the series aside from the Ezio trilogy
@@gamemasteroffun Yes Origins is fantastic! The character of Bayek is one of the best of the franchise, and the setting, liveliness, and beauty of the world is outstanding.
I played through the game as Alexios, watching the kassandra gameplay made me laugh my ass off. It looks so much worse, but they just HAD to be gender neutral...
@@TheGhostLegend001 Idk what the fuck you're on about, but playing as Kassandra was leagues better than Alexios. Probably because the VA was much better and conveyed emotions better.
@@TheGhostLegend001 oh no. How dare ubisoft make you play as a female. Oh wait, it was optional. Too bad there aren't a million other great games where you have to play as a male. ✌
@@happyloser6981 You seem to have missed the point. The problem is not that the is a female protagonist, but that her dialogue thus her "character" is a combination of Alexios'. She can't be herself because of the possibility of choosing Alexios and the degree of freedom in dialogue choices.
Happy Loser look dude, men and women are different creatures. We’re more alike than different for sure, but our differences compliment one another make life easier for one another. I have no problem with female characters, but if you’re going to do a female character in a game inspired by historical events, at least show history as it was. Kassandra wouldn’t be able to do half the shit she does if this game was more historically accurate. Ancient Greece, much like the rest of the world, was a highly patriarchal and misogynistic place. So it’s not that they allowed a female option, it’s that they allowed a female option while pretending like nothing would be different from alexios.
On the emptiness of the world here, in AC Origins I was so compelled and immersed in the world, I sometimes found myself just walking to destinations. I spent the time once to walk through a desert. I saw ghostly visions, defended myself against some bandits, experienced a sandstorm. Odyssey I couldn’t even stand to play very long, it felt so lifeless and so stale, with none of the same care put into Origins. Same with Red Dead Redemption 2. Sometimes, in that game, I’ll get off my horse and just walk it forward for awhile. Or trek up into the mountains, set up camp, hunt, cook, eat, fish, get tracked down by bounty hunters or sometimes ambushed by a pack of wolves, and spend a lot of time doing this. Just existing in the game world. Odyssey, even Valhalla, failed to compel me to do any of that. To the point it feels almost impossible to do so.
I haven't played Origins yet, only Odyssey and Valhalla. And I love both of those, though Odyssey a bit more, even though Valhalla had a bunch of things Odyssey didn't have that I quite liked. Objectively speaking I think Valhalla is better (more variety in things to do) but the world of Odyssey really pulled me in, it's and unforgettable experience to me. Valhalla I played about a year ago, didn't quite finish the story and honestly, I've forgotten almost everything about it. But if what you say is true I guess I'll have to check Origins out, cuz I do like the style of the new AC games.
I think you nailed it here, compelling, that's it, that's the problem with this game, the characters and world isn't compelling unlike RDR2 and Witcher 3, both have compelling characters and worlds.
Can you imagine if when playing Skyrim’s main quest where you had to kill a dragon in the watchtower, you’d have to farm some wolves to be level 15 to fight the dragon and unlock shouts, don’t worry tho you can go to river wood and buy the special deluxe high quality gourmet dovahkin xp booster
Yep... this isnt even a RPG it's just a level grind. Although AC4 was just a straight chain kill easy combat. That's what I miss. Because this game isn't a main combat game. It's a story game
@@mattfreak1206 both of them have roughly the same amount of complexity. The difference is black flag's combat was satisfying where as Odyssey's isn't.
@@BardicMadness Its not complicated at all. Theres nothing innovative or new here. Dodge and counter mechanics have been around for a decade. Whats annoying is levelling system in an ASSASSINS game. No matter how good you are you can only fight enemies like 6 levels higher max. Then your only choice is to grid. Lets not forget how moronic it is that you cant even instakill assassinate anyone higher level unless you grind and grind again, not even a SLEEPING target. Some assassins game this is. Logically a trained killer should be able to assassinate an unsuspecting target with a rusty fork, or even their bare hands (in the other assassins games). Level and grind mechanics have NO PLACE in an assassins game. It eliminates all realism and immersion.
Fun Fact: Assassin's Creed Odyssey was originally meant to be a spin off called "Odyssey: An assassin's creed game" I believe that is why it lacks the key elements of an Assassin's Creed Game
@@rahuldutta9303 no it lacks the element because they didn't even try. You don't need the assassin order to do assassinations . I can't explain my points because it will take forever to write all those . But just Google search The Ten Tenets of making an AC game . It was written by developers of AC2. And oddessy misses all of that.
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@@samarendra109 Do you have a link? Because I've been looking for it but I can't find it.
Ignacio Cañas 3 tenants not 10 and they are 1 stay your blade from the flesh of innocence 2 Hide in plain sight and be one with the crowd 3 never compromise the brotherhood now you don’t have to look it up the person who said it was 10 is wrong
@@XLCook12 Mr Dumbass , it's not tenets of Assassin's Brotherhood. It's the rules made by Ubisoft team about how to make an assassin's Creed game. Lazerzz have made a video on it. Search it.
Spencer Ricker Ah yes because you’re only a real fan if you hate everything after AC 3 or 4 amirite? Fuck right off. I love Odyssey and Origins. Everyone else whining about their precious lore are missing out on a great game. I love and play the hell out of both games, so you can be an AC snob or you can enjoy the games individually and not lose your shit over boring lore stuff that hasn’t even mattered or made sense or been the least bit interesting since AC3 anyway.
I came back to watch this video after the recent AC Showcase just to remind myself of how badly Ubisoft has burned me in the past. It certainly helped prevent me from being sucked in by their promises.
Second Cut well put. and yet some new fanboys are still defending it, saying “well it’s what AC going for now, just accept it cuz Ubisoft aint gonna turn back no more, I personally love it”
@@wetcat6514 Unity isn't a bad game, currently playing through it myself and very much loving the game. The backlash it got was basically down to the bugs that the game had, and unfortunately still has to this day. I've only gotten into the second act of the game but every time I sit down to play there are at least a couple bugs. None of them are game-breaking but it does slightly bother me. I think its a matter of your opinion on how polished a game needs to be to enjoy. They released Unity too early, and it suffered for it. I'm normally able to laugh at the occasional bug and see it as unplanned comic relief in an otherwise tense game. Not everyone feels the same though, and plenty of people like their games to have as little bugs as possible, none preferably. The story itself is one of the most compelling in the series.
The Parkour looks the best. The game looks gorgeous. I like it. It's more close to the older acs after ac3 and black flag. That's why you feel the nostalgia of being an assassin. But the world structure and missions are nothing worth writing home about. I still like it though.
Unity was really, really bad at launch. It was a huge onslaught of glitches and bugs, so people were pretty pissed. But now that they have patched the worst out, it's a really decent game.
@@thepirateofjamaica I don't know, but bugs have always been part of AC, at least in my experience. I always had ragdolls flopping trough Venice and Rome to New York. Walls and edges that the character just glitches down from again, slipping over the end of a roof etc. Unity was hot garbage when it released, but now it's pretty much like any other AC that came before with it's occassional glitches and bugs.
A friend of mine absolutely loves this game and he convinced me to give it a try. After a few hours of gameplay, he asked me: "Well? It's pretty damn cool innit?" My reaction was: "You know, I feel like this game is the size of an ocean, but has the depth of a puddle". I never really understood why I felt this way, until now. You've described it perfectly and it totally resonates with my own opinion on this title.
I felt that too. I bought this game without looking at the reviews. I liked Origins, so I didn't expect this. I got to the point where I was trying to convince myself that it was good and something was going on with me. Because it's an 'Assassin's Creed' game right? No.
Sam Warren even the reviews say odyssey is better than origins it really is a laugh like metacritic,ign,imdb,pcgamer all like odyssey more than origins what bullshit
what's funny to me, is that the og social stealth forced you to stop, you HAD to take a look at the world, same with parkour, look for running paths, look for crowds, LOOK around
I enjoy RPGS and I believe that they're ok and an AC stand point. But its origins and oddesy (in my opinion) will never be as amazing as AC 3 or AC4 or even unity
LazerzZ exactly lmaoooo it’s legit people who haven’t played the older ac Games they don’t know what there missing out on like it’s legit gta with no guns lmao 😂😂
@@LazerzZ "Cult of angry kids" ? Have you seen your own video and read the comments lol No offense but the angry cult is on the other end of this one. But I did enjoy it. Very entertaining video. I like to see people passionate about a brand I enjoy.
unity's npc population was just insane. That game's world was brilliant, and provides quite the contrast for a more modern AC. Shows just how good some of those older titles were
The saddest part is that literally almost ALL of Ubisofts games are like this now , from Odessey , to Ghost Recon , to far cry , all the way to the Division ...it’s just sad , they prioritize micro transactions over EVERYTHING , not to mention EVERY GAME is just the first level of that game copy and pasted throughout the whole rest of the world I haven’t given Ubisoft any money since assassins creed origins and I refuse to buy oddesey or any other Ubisoft game because of this
blacktigerpaw1 but like he said in the video , it isn’t even an RPG ...it’s honestly more like a hack & slash with VERY VERY limited rpg aspects , essentially just a copy & paste of the first level throughout the entire game
Tigo _ dont get me wrong , change is 100% a good thing ...it stops them from getting stale as a series but the changes Ubisoft have made are change for the sake of change/“change”$ lol , not to make the series better
I read on Assassin's Creed wiki, that Ubisoft will now focus on more "Open World RPG" with "Less Narrative". That's pretty much a giant f**k you from Ubisoft to all veteran players to the series, who liked a great story to the games.
Ouch! That's just disgusting to read. The AC fans became who they are BECAUSE of the narratives, not because of the constant farming and grinding. Not only that, but it also undermines all the RPGS that DO have good narratives. The Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Red Dead Redemption 2 all serve as testaments of that fact.
Aqu95ila Yep. They pretty put a middle finger to the hardcore AC fans who most of them left because Ubisoft put the franchise in a dogshit of pile now.
even origins and odyssey look pretty similar at first glance but its the small things like the npcs having conversations, calling out to you as you pass like they are trying to wrangle a customer or sitting down to do some work at a stall, even those convoys of supplies and money that barge through clearing people out as they go, things that might seem minute on first glance really make something feel more real
That final montage got me good. I understand what you felt, growing up on this series it always amazed me how the music itself could make you feel so invested in these characters, the polarising ideals of assassins and Templar’s, yet with both having their merits. I couldn’t even bring myself to finish the first episode of fate of Atlantis let alone start the other two. It shocks me to reflect as you have done and just wonder how we went from moments like Ezio seeing Altair’s body in Masyaf and calling him his brother, to a ridiculous scene of killing your crazy psycho sibling.
What's sad about Odyssey is how great Origins was, it's my favorite Assassin's Creed game. I fell in love with the open world, characters and gameplay. Odyssey was like a cheap rip off.
@@cosmicchorus9898 That's fine man. But I returned my copy. It ruined the lore, the gameplay was somehow worse than Origins and to top it all off it didn't even feel like an Assassin's Creed game
@@noblechief4023 It literally has the title "Assassin's Creed" on it. How do I treat it as any other game when it pretends to take place in that universe, all the while, not understanding what makes an AC game, an AC game? That's like buying a Call of Duty game and pretending it's Battlefield. Or a Batman game but pretending you're Spider-Man in it. Literally makes no sense. I shouldn't have to pretend the game is something that it's not just to enjoy it. That's ridiculous
Steve Robertson most casual gamers loved it. Most die-hard Assassin’s Creed fans did not, and they have been incredibly vocal about their concern for the direction Ubisoft is taking the series. The good news is that from information I have heard, the next instalment in the series is likely to be closer to a traditional AC game than Odyssey and maybe even more so than Origins. What I can almost guarantee is that the parkour will be much improved because everybody knows that the movement engines in Origins and Odyssey are both trash as far as AC is concerned. I’m hopeful now and I am looking forward to the next game, which isn’t something I said 8 months ago
Lore wise it doesn't make sense for AC to allow you to make too many choices and have multiple endings because it's supposed to be things that have already happened and you must "synchronize" with them....
I grew up with Assassin's Creed, I remember how much I looked forward to when Assassin's Creed Brotherhood came out I played all the games, but unfortunately Ubisoft made something awful about it. And that's the saddest part
@@ErinnBastias nah, Abstergo is putting some serious work into world domination, Ubisoft is just doing easy mode and appeal to the wishes of casual gamers. I could live with buggy games like unity and black flag, but these grindy bad witcher/dark souls bastards (origins and odessey) are a pain in the ass to play. They need to go back to the roots.
100% agree. Everything up until ACIII was great for me. After that, it started going downhill fast. Unity, although I've personally never played it, looks great, but I got Odyssey the other day for $30.00 on the PlayStation store with the whole Season Pass deal (that came with III, thank God) and this game is absolute rubbish. The movement is disgusting, it doesn't even feel like Creed. I loved how in III they changed up how Connor moved about, and introduced more fluidity in the animations. This game just feels like I'm running around those SafeZones from The Division, except I'm running like that the whole time. Being able to scale any and everything and then jumping down the Empire State Building and surviving just makes me feel like I'm playing some derpy, modded up, RPG version of some Ubisoft dev's acid trip. The button mindless button mashing can drag you in, but this does not deserve to be called and Assassin's Creed.
@@hotvindilu1 hey, Same! The animations and kills in III were freaking brutal. Where the first one and the series with Ezio felt precise and deliberate, the combat in III felt like anger and passion from an outcast native guy getting by in colonial era. I've played Unity, but haven't finished yet, but I can say that it's miles better than what Odyssey looks. At least it feels like an AC game. I can say that at this point, the charm is kinda blown off and I can't really give a crap anymore about the modern day storyline, but everything that happens in the 1700s France is beautiful. Most of the time I just walk around the streets to get to my objective only to see what the city looks like. Paris feels alive, the movements are fluid, the freerunning is okay but suffers a little bit from this thing where you're aiming at a location and your character ends up somewhere entirely different. But that's always been AC. And there is actually falling damage.
It actively pisses me off when people say it's a good rpg but a bad ac game, because I went into this game cautiously optimistic, not even an ac fan, and it's just a bad game, it's neither good at being assassins creed or a videogame It felt like an occasionally pretty semi-fun game that bored the shit out of me, but strung me along on enough dopamine to a point where I still played, and when the dopamine shots ended and the dragon stopped being chaseable the game just sucked, its like an addiction that just sucks and never gave a good high in the first place.
EXACTLY. This game is only being called good because of the dopamine stimulus it gives. It’s not fun to play because you’re getting a fun experience out of it, it’s for a lot of people fun to play because they just want to mark checkboxes of a checklist which feels fun to do
Guy On RUclips 69 Honestly, I think they should just keep the Origins system, the perfect blend of linear player development and rpg player customization, as well as a great combat system, they threw that all away when they made Odyssey.
It's pretty rare for a single video to capture my attention for a full 45 minutes. You're explaining exactly what I couldn't put into words, it's a shame so many fanboys were downvoting this masterpiece of a video.
@@patricetan which is a real shame. They say "it may not be an AC game, but it's a good game" and the problem is that (as the video masterfully explained) it's not.
No they are not fans of Assasins Creed. They are just people who happend to play Odyssey and don't care about what this series used to be. I have played all the games since the first one to Origins even playing such games as Bloodlines, I have read all the books and I decided to give Odyssey a chance. And all I know and all I loved in this series was gone. The lore shatered in pieces. Those people are not fans of Assasins Creed they are people who just see an RPG and they play it, not knowing the whole picture, not knowing what this games are about, They are about creed wich those people don't know. I hope the next games will be an Assasins Creed we true fans know not some random patchwork those impostors know. They are not fans, WE ARE.
"the unnecessarily far away camera angle" The distance of the camera to the player character in games generally correlates with how close you feel to the character. It's only natural that it would be pulled out more here
As someone ejo actually enjoyed the game, I must admit that your criticism was spot on. These are the many frustrations I ran in to while playing the game. But I still enjoyed it for what it was, and I finished it without spending a cent on micro transactions.
My biggest problem with odyssey that came to light for me was the levelling system. If I put hours into building my character and getting armour/weapons that have high stats and were difficult to find. I’d want that to show when I easily kill a low level enemy. I hate level scaling because it takes away from so many features and mechanics in the game.
Bruh exactly. I been levelling up my character from doing alotta side quests but all the other characters are also at lvl 20 when I grinded to that level. Makes no sense for me to level up fast since they’re just gonna level up the same as me nonetheless. I get that they’re trying to balance it but it feels kind of a waste if they’re just the same level as you always.
That's one of the reasons why i love Skyrim so much, you start as a weak nobody with no equipment and end up becoming the strongest creature with legendary weapons you obtained from demons
The camera position makes a huge difference to immersion, look how far away it is in Odyssey compared to Origins while walking, being closer feels way better.
I gotta hand it to you. You're one fan that can step back and argue, with proof, how a game doesn't make sense canonically and how it ruins the lore, all the while poking at dumb fans. Also, can we talk about how these character models look worse while AC Unity, which came out in 2014, has better models?
Although Unity is my favorite, it has trouble running on a lot of platforms at times, adding those visual to a game the size of odyssee would destroy it. The option could be there between visuals and playability but I dont think we'd pick visuals if this massive game wouldnt be playable
@@blacktigerpaw1 Niiice, I play on a gaming laptop but I was hoping to see unity being smooth somewhere, might pick up something stronger to play it in the future!
There's a german saying, which basically means that you manage to say what I always thought but could never quite express with words. It fits here so well that I'd like to use it: Du sprichst mir aus der Seele. You're speaking from my soul. By the way that epilogue was very emotional and powerful. The music, the clips, my memories and what you said made me tear up because of nostalgia but also the fact that what you say is, sadly, very true. Ubisoft doesn't care about what we love. They don't care about us. That is sad. That makes me cry to be honest. That my favourite game franchise is dead by now, and that they won't revive it if they're going on like this. I can not describe what I feel right now. You did that for me I guess.
I agree, personaly AC odyssey was my first "AC" game i played, i fell in love with it, the music and everything hit so hard with nostalgia when i was done with the game i felt like i have lived the life of alexios, its sad the youtuber doesn't feel the same thought, but i do agree when i started playing AC unity it was SO different i finally understood why people wanted new AC games to be like the old ones where parkour is so immersive and the stealth is so much better method to use then just going beserk, i still personaly love AC odyssey but i do agree with the youtuber its not really Assassin's creed anymore and in odyssey you dont even got a hidden blade.. and it fails a little to even be a RPG game but in my opinion i dont feel like they failed entirely, but i agree they could have done better.
@@BlazingFire9 I very much respect you for that comment, I feel like a lot of people struggle with coming to the conclusion that they like odyssey but that it's very understandable that old fans want something different. Oftentimes I hear things like "Well that's just how it is now, stop complaining and just enjoy it, this is way better than old AC anyways, it was boring back then, I don't like the old games". These people clearly haven't understood the importance this brand has to some people, nor because of the brand name but because of the deep world and the great characters and the emotional stories found within it, things that are only a fraction of everything that is missing from the series now. I'm happy to hear you enjoy odyssey that much, and I hope you'll have many more fun hours with the game. I respect you for being able to look beyond your personal experience and love for the game and relate to the people who complain about it and the current state of "Assassins Creed".
@@jasonbond5213 I Couldn't have said it better, if only more people could see our comments and ubisoft it might change the perspective of a lot of people and the brand as well, showing that maybe combining both games might just give everybody what they what and create and excellent game, if only ubisoft would listen to their fans and read our comments like these just imagen the great games that could have been made.
@@BlazingFire9 The thing is, I think if they read the comments they still wouldn't care. These new AC games have been the most selling ones ever. Taking it back into the old direction would be a financial risk and Ubisoft is very profit orientated. In addition to that such a combination of old and new would be a very tough thing to achieve, because you'd have to reduce the role-playing aspects to an extend that new fans might not condone, but that might still be too much role-playing for old fans. In addition to that a lot more care and thus time would have to go into the writing of these games, as old fans want all of the philosophy and the interesting ideological standpoints to play a big role again, something that, again, could scare off those among the new fans who don't care about that and just play it for fun quick gameplay. It's a tight ropewalk, one that comes with many risk, and the risk of losing money. Ubisoft won't attempt it as long as new AC sells. And it does.
@@laithoweidat4384 Yeah lol. And that's probably what they intended Odyssey to be. A game u just mess around with coupled with a shit story no one was supposed to take seriously🤷♂️
Lazerzz u probably won't see this but damn this video is good. It hits the nail on the head perfectly and you can tell how much work and dedication went into the vid. Well done
You've nailed it. Started the game recently, thought it was good. Then noticed i had to unlock everything in a region in order to do the main quests. Then I noticed how long it took and got to the point where i struggled to remember what the main plot was because i was spending so long grinding between main missions. So then i caved and bought the xp boost.... And it was good for a time. Level 36 now and its a grind again. I even bought some armour from the store but i dont have enough resources to keep upgrading it and money is running out just doing the main quests. EVERYTHING is designed to get you to buy stuff. I have lost total interest in the game. I'll complete it because im a weapon and ive spent too much money on it now not too, but this game is a disaster.
This game will be okay if you didn't need to farm xp by doing shit quest and the same thing again and again to progress in the main story i don't even understand why people love this game it's a waste of time if i want to grind i'm going to play Lost Ark or WoW
This is not true at all you can rush the main story and still be at a good level because main story mission give so much xp or you dont have à good build overall
The ending literally broke my heart... because I believe you when you said that AC is finished. I don’t think there will be redemption... I’ve lost hope.
Pauli’s Cooking this is kinda one of those games. Meaning the receptiveness of every mission. The story is good but not executed properly. And I like some of the gaming mechanics but the game isn’t polished by any means. It has many flaws and bugs. It has great potential but the devs just flopped. It’s not a Horrible game but it’s far from a great game.
MC Cooper I get what your saying but the side mission story just covers up the actions of the mission itself. Your literally an errand boy the entire apart from dlc. And everything said in the video is on POINT. I literally can’t say it any better if you actually watch the video then you’ll get it.
This is so therapeutic, all my frustration laid bare in this video and expresses shit better then I would at this disaster of a game and total lack of care for a series I loved so much
Ethan parsons “disaster of a game” You clearly have not played enough bad games my friend (*coughs* Metal Gear Survive). AC Odyssey may not feel like an AC game but it does not equate to being bad.
Odyssey is one of the best games I've played in a long time. I went from actively hating AC to being a huge fan and I can't wait for that Vikings game. Day one baby!!
The frustrating thing is that I think Origins was what the series needed to avoid fatigue, and an interesting starting point for a new direction that could be expanded upon. But it feels like as soon as that sold well and got good reviews, Ubisoft saw it as an opportunity to just make it into the new formula. They immediately went back to a one year development cycle and basically tried to copy paste the format of Origins into a new setting and pad it out in a way that encourages spending. The whole thing just feels so cynical, and that’s the most frustrating thing about modern Ubisoft. Their games have a ton of interesting concepts that sound intriguing but they seem content to just do the bare minimum instead of really following through on these ideas that could easily result in something really memorable and unique.
@@Nerfherder117 if you think odyssey it's better, your tastes, but the only thing that's it's better on odyssey, it's the ship enviroment. sadly, they did not use that in the game, and put ship sessions on side quest or free roaming.
@@Nerfherder117 _"mainly because the characters fell more alive"_ LOL! I seriously hope to God you're joking. Kassandra will NEVER compare to characters like Bayek or Aya.
@@Nerfherder117 the comment you just said is wrong on so many levels, from both a gameplay and technical standpoint. Of course, you can have an opinion, but an opinion can be wrong
I'm about 30 hours into Odyssey, and I'm beginning to notice that it's basically an alternation of surface level prettiness, and shallow, uninteresting locations and world interactions. It feels vast, yet empty. The beaches look beautiful as the sun sets over the isles, casting golden reflections of the shifting waves of the clear-blue Mediterranean seas. But the towns those beaches attach to have nothing of interest to find. They look nice from a distance, breaking up the natural landscapes with the telltale signs of humanity-- sun-kissed shingle roofs, and the nighttime lights hinting at lives being lived behind closed doors. But you come down from your clifftop perch, and go into the town itself, and its all just cut and pasted NPCs bumbling around doing fuck all
Yeah, think the same. The emptiness of the game even gave me a feeling of depression. There were not emotions that would connect me to this beautiful world.
@@e1numerousoftimes.iamnoted389 nothing I said has anything to do with player skill. Anyways, I'm enjoying the game overall, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna ignore the fact it has some flaws in its design. Even the Valhalla devs have now gone on record to say the sequel will directly address these flaws by presenting a smaller, but more rich and varied world to explore, and less prohibitive leveling system to reduce grind, etc.
I've never felt someone's words so much than in this vid during the final words segment, especially after recently replaying all the older games up to rev & watching all your retrospectives over and over (im an addict i cant help it). I grew up with ac from 1 all the way through to odyssey and watched as the franchise I loved and cared for slowly turned into a cash grab that didn't care for the people who were there from the start. Ac was the first time I truly connected with a story and felt what the game wanted me to feel and now it just makes me feel dread. I love playing the older ones because it brings me back to those days but man it sucks how far its fallen now. Thank you for this and all your ac retrospectives they truly put into words how amazing this franchise used to be and what it was like growing up with it at its peak.
Assassins Creed died when Desmond died. I loved Black Flag and had some good fun with Origins. But it just wasn’t Assassins Creed to me. I didn’t even bother buying Odyssey and after watching this, i’m glad I didn’t.
zXRaikkonenFanXz Black Flag was one of the best AC games and kept its roots while integrating other mechanics building off of 3 and also continued the Keenway story line so I think that definitely felt likeAssassins Creed. Origins not so much
Hahahaha you play Odessey and you sign a contract which says you will die if you keep playing so quit before it's too late. God the cringe it almost killed and it gave me depression . Never ever going to play again.
Leveling up is soo damm tedious, It takes soo long that by the time I am ready to do another part of the main quest I have forgotten what the main quest even is
Playing Odyssey felt like watching a loved one in a car crash, it's awful but I just couldn't look away. That's how committed to the franchise I am and I wish I wasn't.
Okay, yeah I felt that. "That's how committed to the franchise I am and I wish I wasn't." Truer words haven't been spoken. Wish the series didn't come down this path. It ain't my fault.
Ramiro Garcilazo I litterally bought oddyssey to give the franchise a chance thinking “maybe just maybe there’s something” 100 hours in it’s a car crash for sure
For the life of me I can't understand how anyone can defend microtransactions that help with the gameplay. How do they not see the harm it's doing to the industry? Like yeah, I gave more money to a company after I already bought the game, purely because I wanted to speed up the process of playing said game. Wow, what an amazing product.
John veris And what happens when games become incredibly grindy and boring? This industry is a business. The infection of microtransactions will surely influence game design. It already started in fact. Microtransactions are a cancer, sooner or later they will completely infect the videogame industry. Why should developers/companies bother with making good game design choices when many players will gladly hand over their wallets?
You know how to stop micro transactions for good? Don’t purchase them lol like all things consumers dictate the market. They aren’t going to spend money making these things that don’t sell. Why does no one under 30 years old understand this simple concept? Lol
The great appeal of the AC series was that, trough the animus, we were getting access to a hidden past, reliving history. Odissey broke that by indroducing a choice of character and dialogue options. Yes it looks good, yes they put a lot of detail in the world build but it has no heart, no core. It doesn't tell you a story the way the ezio games told you. Its not an AC game anymore. Its just another fancy sandbox and we get plenty of those nowadays already. I've played all the other games and dlcs but i'm not even remotely interested in this one.
nigga we can see the bias from ur profile picture as an AC game it feels but as a standalone game and only focus on IT instead of the franchise, its a good game. dumb ass nigga
@@rib4607 did you even watch the video? James compiled all that is wrong with the game in a clear way. If you cant see that this game is wank after watching there is something wrong with you.
I know this video is old but it’s still a good and informative video LazerzZ thank you 🙏🏽 , it is sad to see franchise go down hill but maybe one it might get fixed at least that’s what I’m hoping for anyway .
I'm always a fan of construcrive criticism, and I am an Assassin's Creed fan... This critique really felt like it came from someone who cared for the series, the characters, the music, the feeling etc.... I just sincerely hope AC Valhalla will feel more like Origins which really made me think Ubisoft still cared. I want a game that not only treats the Assassin's Creed lore but also the fans in a way that makes them feel respected...
Is origins really that good? I've finished oddysey and do agree it was a bit eh, not horrible imo, but certainly not amazing. Planning on getting origins next week though if I can find a complete edition online. Hoping I'm not let down because origins has been praised like it's the best thing since sliced bread, but will see.
Everilliem Origins is definitely one of the best AC games in terms of world, protagonist and story. It tells essentially the most Assassin’s Creed esque story since AC Brotherhood or Revelations. People do praise Origins a lot, and it’s not perfect, but it is very good. What Origins gets right it absolutely nails, and what it gets wrong is just minor compared to the quality the rest of the game has. Like the biggest issue people had with Origins was that the combat felt too light, which I agree with. But comparing that to all the stuff Ashraf’s team got right, like the setting, the narrative beats, Bayek as a character, tying in proper AC lore to the world, you don’t care about the little issues.
Everilliem My advice is go into Origins not expecting the best game ever made, but go into it knowing the passion it holds as an AC game. Because when you play it you can really tell the devs care about the franchise. Origins is not perfect, and you shouldn’t expect it to be because you’ll be let down. But imo it has my favorite AC protagonist and favorite setting/story even.
The best time to be an Assassin's Creed fan was during the Desmond Miles era, because at least, they had some idea of where they were doing with it. Great games like Black Flag and Origins came after (both from AC HQ of Montréal), but things just... haven't been the same even with those games.
Assassin's Creed being great not only because of the memory and story in the past, They also have a story in the modern era. What actually make rogue, unity and syndicate lesser, or to say making the original Assassin's Creed, the Ezio Trilogy, AC3 feel better, is the connection to the modern storyline. Not something that you can remove from the game and dumped into a comic instead. Assassin's Creed is about assassins, not only from the past, but also in the modern era. It is a game to play as modern assassins, who enter the Animus to learn from the past giants, to discover truth and information that they lack.
So to be honest, in terms of the storyline, I was pretty excited when they introduced Layla as the main character of the modern era, meaning that they finally realize the importance of modern era storyline in the games. They wanted to develop it, not just removing it and sent it to comics. But turns out they screwed that up in Odyssey. What worse is that, Odyssey is a main game, not a spin-off, not a novel, not a comics. It is not something that can be "oops, everyone forget about that, let move on". It is that main game, the backbone of the whole AC universe. The failure is now engraved in the Canon of AC. All games, novels and comics from now on would be built on this one. It is outrageous. Especially for one of the best selling franchise of a company, how could they allow a game that deny the core settings of the universe? What's done is done, now the sequel games must redeem what can't be redeem easily. A staff of Eden, huh. I'd say they can blow it up somehow. That's too OP to exist in the modern storyline.
@@xero9ravity150 AC1 was good just the reptitive quests made it a average game im pretty sure if they did a remake the times its set in and the story made it good
I once watched an interview with the two voice actors of kassandra and alexios. They have both played the game themselves oddly enough and they were asked some basic questions about the game. One of the questions asked was what their favorite side character was... both of them struggled to find an answer. Which shows how boring the characters are even in the main questline. I believe they ended up both saying their favorite was the quartermaster of you ship (I think his name was Barnebas or something)
As a professional philosopher, I loved being able to meet and chat with Socrates so much (and also very briefly meet Plato as a kid). But he's such a good character in the game because in real life he was such a good character! I was mostly disappointed that they didn't give you any real opportunity to challenge him intellectually. They basically gave you one option to continue the conversation, and another to just say "this is stupid". I mean, I know Kassandra and Alexios aren't explicitly intellectuals, but why couldn't they give you the option at least?
Despite the problems it had, there were a lot of things in Unity I wish they didn't abandon. Also there's the fact that that game still looks better graphically than any of the games since. Hell it's customization was way better compared to Odyssey. I could make an assassin that felt like my own through mixing and matching weapons and pieces of armor and clothing, you know, something an "rpg" should be doing. Then there's the parkour of Unity, while flawed, if they had just built upon it we could have had a perfect system but they immediately abandoned it. Then there's the fact that with few exceptions, we are getting increasingly worse characters and protagonists. That's in large part the fault of the fan bases bitching and moaning that characters were too serious and not enough like Ezio. We get Arno, as close to what everyone was asking for but everyone hated him still, partially because he got depressed and drunk a few times. At least he felt like a fucking human. Connor got shit for being serious. Why wouldn't he be after what he went through. Evie was shit but because she was the first mainline female character, her seriousness was fine while Jacob was likeable for his "charisma" when he was really just a bumbling dumbass. Now we get Alexios/Kassandra who have all the problems you mentioned in this video. Speaking of which, people complained about Desmond and the present day. While not the greatest, I still liked it, it was serviceable. Then they killed him off and couldn't figure out what they wanted to do and now we have Layla who is fucking terrible along with a terrible present day. The only reason I'm glad Desmond is dead is that Nolan North's name is no longer attached to this shit. Then there's what you mentioned about the precursor race and the fact that they disregard that and added magic and mythological gods into the mix. You also mention the music. Why the fuck is "Ezio's Family", his theme, playing all the time in Odyssey? Honestly I miss Altaïr, Ezio and the Kenways.(I know this is kinda all over the place but these are my thoughts)
Arno's drunkenness and depression are very human, and so are his attempts at redemption. We don't see too often an emotionallly deep guy like that who isn't a cuck and loves with all his heart.
Honestly Unity probably has the best gameplay and really shouldve been more fleshed out. Just imagine 2 but with unity's game play mechanics and you have an absolutely brilliant game
Just visit LeoK's youtube channel and watch him destroy Unity with ultimate stealth gameplay. That game required brains to be stealthy. You had so many accessories with you and you had to use them to get the job done. Smoke bombs actually were useful. Cherry bombs got all your targets in on place. You had to plan according to guards patrolling system cuz you could not one shot all of them. But get close enough and you could assassinate them. If it hadn't been a broken thing at its release, it would have been epic.
Yes no human will be charismatic asshole after seeing his/her getting burnt alive and learning that his own father is mortal enemy of their life. Conner as a character was perfect and the same with Arno. They were great characters, they had distinct personalities. Also the only reason Ubisoft changed the gameplay is to introduce the macro transactions. They could have improved on the combat mechanics of unity. But no, need to have level gating so we can nickel and dime our users. The odyssey and origins should have been a new franchise, they don’t belong to AC. If they were made as a new franchise, those who are enjoying the game now, wouldn’t got affected since they don’t really care about assassins creed as a series.
I am currently at timestamp 8:18, I was very surprised to hear you had this conflicting views of the character creation. And you made some excellent points. Specifically the gender neutral. I completely agree in that Kassandra feels completely out of her element. It really does feel as if shes treated as a male, which is not true when playing with Alexios. In my humble opinion Kasandra is the lesser experience, as Alexios Deimos just comes off as raged and one dimensional (leading to most people believing the true goal is to kill him). Kassandra as Deimos is actually fucking terrifying, she's a better Deimos in all honesty. But Alexios is a much better Eagle Bearer, he just holds better the suspension of disbelief. It doesnt feel Odd that he is a Spartan Warrior, that he fucks left to right (Greeks actually practiced a lot of homosexuality, specially among higher classes.), that he is not always self composed and quick tempered because it is dutifully reflected in the voice acting. The one area it lacks is emotional connection. (No spoilers. Th end scene of the Athens act just hits like a truck when performed by Kassandra). When playing as Kassandra most things feels well wrong I guess? How would nobody bat an eye that a woman is competing with men at the Olympics? Not that it's wrong but it shouldv'e been remarked. To say she's the Cannon protagonist while never acknowledging she IS a woman through dialog, subtext and she overcoming social tropes is what defeats the story. Believe me when I tell you that your experience wouldn't have been as conflicting with Alexios as protagonist.
For whatever it is worth, when I first played the game - well before the release of even the first DLC, I had chosen Kassandra as my protagonist. I distinctly recall, despite it being years ago now, that at one point in the Present Day sections, all the voice lines and story beats were playing out with Alexios as my protagonist. Almost as if Alexios was the planned protagonist all along, and the game had bugged out and defaulted the voice lines to Alexios, because the Kassandra choice was added later in development... But I may be reading too far into things. After all, Kassandra is now the canonical choice, isn't she?
Absolutely disagree. Alexios voice actor is flat, and you yourself admitted it - saying he is a one dimensional Deimos. I'd rather have a one-dimensial character as an NPC, not as the protagonist though.
Unfortunately, I blame Origins for the direction assassin's creed is heading. People liked Origins and how "new" it was for assassin's creed but didn't realize the long term affects it'll have on the franchise. Give developers an inch, they'll give you a mile.
U can't blame origins for being original. Thats like blaming black ops 2 (the best cod by alot of the fanbase) for going into the future and causing the cod games after to also go to the future.
@@nothisispatrick5691 By that logic, Horizon Zero Dawn also copied from the Witcher 3. And mind you, that's a new IP. In retrospect, Origins took inspiration more from Horizon and less from the Witcher 3. The only they "copied" is the camera angle, hit box combat, etc.
I only finished everything down to the DLCs just to be prepared for Valhalla tbh. I’d do myself a favor and read some recaps instead but I’m one of those guys who’d rather experience things first hand, no matter how excruciating it could be
@@Engille967 I can't even take Odyssey seriously tf you mean ? You literally have to fight mystical creatures like Medusas and such. When in AC have you had to do such bullshit. Origins had it but that was a dream sequence for Bayek.
@@leonecartelreborn9628 mythical creatures being pieces of eden is a much better reason to include them than a dream. Unrealistic things were always a thing in assassin's creed games. For example the leap of faith, the isu, pieces of eden. I bet you didnt complain then and you only notice bad things on the new games because of the type of stupidity under the name popular opinion.
I remember playing AC Origins and finding the mine where Egyptians mine the material used to preserve mummies (netron? Correct me if I'm wrong). I was so fascinated and watched the NPCs and their routine as they go about their work. No such detail in Odyssey...
Origins was miles better. The only thing about odyssey i liked was individual clothing sets. I did not like the full uniform pieces with no customization that you got with bayek once i found one i liked i just stuck with it the whole game. It also improved on the spear combat. I hated using the spear in origins but liked it more in odyessy. But everything else was better in origins. They completely nerfed the axe in odyssey it used to be my favorite weapon with bayek. The serpent blade was amazing and having different bows dedicated to each arrow type. Fast bow, long draw bow, hunter/sniper bow, shotgun style bow, and fast firing bow and not needing powerups to use the different types. Also how does game like odyssey which is pretty much all water and feature naval combat heavily have almost nothing to look for in the water? Origins had so much more reasons to be in the water with all the sunken locations. Ex points and leveling was better in origins it felt like you actually achieved something.
You are kind of right? I'm not too sure, as I am not the person you should speak to about Egyptian History, but this is what I found on the website for the Spurlock Museum in Illinois: Natron, a naturally-occurring salt, has been found in cases and jars in tombs, in packages in tombs, in pits with refuse embalming materials, encrusted in wooden embalming tables, and on certain mummies. www.spurlock.illinois.edu/exhibits/online/mummification/materials.html
Taka Baruna this seems similar but when a solider is dead in a fort or something be of the other shoulder will carry out side at the entrance for birds or in honor
@@gabrielluncsford9237 Or even people way Origins caused this. But it's apparently Odyssey who caused all of the clusterfuck with not only Assassins Creed but also other Ubisoft franchises. Far Cry New Dawn and Watchdogs Legion and Ghost Recon Breakpoint, see what I mean and even then enthusiasts of those games like OperatorDrewski and WillyB, who are more laid back and relaxed fans of the games are already critiquing them.
One moment that genuinely surprised me in this game was when I went to help the medical guy with a patient who was dying (I can’t be bothered to remember the doctors name bc Greek names) But he sends me on a mission to recover something to save this dying man. I say “nah this boring” so I go do the other quest I have available in the same odyssey line. I finish that quest and then come back to the medical guy and would you look at that, the patient has died. This genuinely surprised me bc in the 25 hours I’ve had in the game so far, nothing like this had happened to me yet. It was refreshing to actually see my neglect turn into something rather than the guy just be dying for days and days until I recovered the item. With that being said though I agree with everything you’re saying. The game is lazy. The game is a fake rpg. The reason I love it is because of the setting and the beauty of the world. The thing that really pissed me off tho is the fact that I can’t assasinate people in one hit. How tf am I jumping off a 30 ft building onto a man with a fucking spear and not killing him? I know I should boost my asssasin damage but at the same time, the game is fucking called “assassins creed” . Let me be a fucking assassin. Be realistic. You can’t get stabbed by a man jumping off a building on top of you and just get up and walk away. I understand if bosses survive bc gameplay reasons but little regular dudes surviving that? Nah
I have hope in my heart that Ashraf and Darby will try their hardest to bring the series back to us with Valhalla and hopefully every game after, but even with that I'm ashamed to know that Assassin's Creed will never recover from this shipwreck of a game..
SoloG0625 I also enjoyed oddysey but not because its a good ac game or a good game in general i just love the greek mythology and after thinking abot it I only played oddysey because I wanted it to be good I wanted a good game in ancient greek but at the end I have to say im truly sorry about the time I investet in this game edit: fixed some misspelling
John Ramos Yes but considering the games release date is this fall the game is basically complete, it would make no sense if it wasn’t. They’re in the polish stage which mean all the creative decisions have mostly been made
@@irecordwithaphone1856 I’d be interested in how you’re feeling about Valhalla now that we’ve seen gameplay and stuff? It sadly just doesn’t click for me, but I’m also not much into Vikings
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Timestamps:
00:00 PRE-INTRO
00:23 INTRO
4:19 - CHARACTER
8:19 - DIALOGUE
12:14 - CHOICE
15:56 - LEVELLING
20:44 - WORLD
28:48 - SIDE QUESTS
31:22 - MINOR ISSUES
32:17 - CULTIST SYSTEM
33:24 - DLC
33:40 - LEGACY OF THE FIRST BLADE
35:44 - THE FATE OF ATLANTIS
42:44 - CONCLUSION
43:29 - My Final Words...
The real next Assassin's Creed game is called "Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey". Ubisoft has fired developers, Desilets and those who have made great ac and now they work on Panache
This video is worded perfectly the ending touched my soul a bit i hope someone important at ubisoft sees this
ODYSSEY SHOULDN'T BE CANON
I cried at the end, ur right about assassins creed, the last real assassins creed game was unity
LazerzZ it really did do Bayek dirty😢
"The fire doesn't look as good as it did in Origins..."
And as minor a point as it is, you can't even burn away the spiderwebs in the tombs, which was strangely satisfying in Origins.
So I tried it and they do burn away, just not like in Origins. You just need to attack them once or twice with a torch , whereas in origins they burned just by walking through them.
IKR!!
LMAO yesss
The Tomb Raiding in Odyssey was the same shit everytime. In Origins every tomb felt different and interesting.
@@johnh5646 I felt like the tomb raiding in Origins was kind of meh as well. It really didn’t feel that much different either.
For some reason when you were comparing Odyssey and Brotherhood I forgot they were a part of the same series
Same
It's sad that even AC1 has more interaction with the world! God Odyssey was terrible!
@@thegamingpesant2880 it be like that sometimes
This is an unscripted video AC1 was ahead of its time for when it was released. That game is still gold imo
The Cats' Pjs same
To quote Kassandra "I'm not an assassin."
*by a decision
Which is why the game shouldn't even exist :)
The best part of that line for me is that the word assassin didn’t even exist yet lol
That moment is when this game died as an AC game.
".....not anymore" -Desmond Miles
remember kids, Kassandra was always there somewhere, alive, during every single assassin's creed game you've ever played
An absolutely harrowing thought
shit pisses me off every time I think about it
@@ctchulk you're probably too emotionally attached.
@@ctchulk Cry about it 😂
@@TheIrland09 okay?
The decent side mission you mentioned is actually the mission that they gave reviewers to play pre-game release. The only reason that much effort was put is so they could get a good initial thought from reviewers.
I have just recently finished the game,been trying to finish it for over a year, but anytime i returned to it i did few side quests just to grind for req. level for main quests and gave up coz i got bored of that grind but from all that shitty grind that was necessary to even complete the main story, this is the only side quest I vaguely remember, still feels emptier than random side interaction in Witcher 3
That reminds me so much on how in Skyrim the regions around Riverwood had more detail than the rest of the game--right down to ants on tree trunks--because of it being one of the first places Bethesda showed off and it being the areas you'll likely visit in the first couple of hours. In fact I believe it was one of the first regions the devs finished.
@@thingolox9698 I did finish all side missions and completed all spots in the map. I did not enjoy it, it is pure grind and the spots are very copy&paste, but I did it on principle so I can leave the whole game behind me with the feeling that I have finished the game (DLC missing but f this).
My conclusion: It took me over 200 hours to finish the game 100%.
*Two*
*hundred*
Bro I feel like I had more fun in my *48 hours* AC Brotherhood gameplay
Don't do it. It is not worth it.
Complete the main story, fight all ancient creatures and all beasts, that's enough!
VlaunBurtlecraft You did not use Skyrim’s shitty world as a comparison lmao. Skyrim’s stories WERE FAR WORSE than even this shitty game.
@@waiskuxx skyrim is a masterpiece no denying that.
Someone in the comments described this game perfectly
A game as large as an ocean
But as deep as a puddle.
Preach
But you forgot how that same puddle was stepped on, shit on and recycled only to be buttfcuked by the nearest hermaphroditic homeless man.
@@christianpiamonte2159
Nah
At least it's a good looking puddle lol
Salim Sadoune now imagine having intercourses with the most prettiest girl and finding out she was a man. That is the puddle.
Salim Sadoune better yet she has hiv, that is the puddle. No matter how good it looks, your always gonna get HIV aladeen.
I remember thinking that Assassin's Creed would culminate into a game where you play as Desmond in the modern world and finally defeat and stop abstergo and the templars once and for all.
Now I wonder why they still bother with the animus and all that stuff since it's literally going no where. But Assassin's Creed has just turned into Ubisoft's Call of Duty, their FIFA. A game they will release every year, monetize and repeat the next year. It's very sad.
The next AC will be made my Ashraf Ismails team who did black flag and origins, and written by Darby McDevitt, so it should be good and well written again.
@@TheShicksinator that doesn't make what he said untrue
Phat Man it’s been two years... I win
its not yearly though
@@legotrillermoth that doesn't matter the point is it's just a cash grab
I remember getting annoyed while playing this because it felt like 70% of my time was being spent chasing down map markers.
@@averystevenson7155 sure you could automatically set up the route like your horse is a Tesla, but either way you have to sit there and wait until you get there
I get annoyed at the fact I have to grind so fucking hard just to beat the game.
@@x91s55 not exactly I just beat the main game and im at level 28 and only fully explored kepholonia, megaris, phokis and complete a few markers here and there in the other main regions without any xp boost really all you gotta do is kill mercenaries, hunt the cult and fight a few of the legendary animals and your good.
@@andrewcuster2975 damnn bruh. Im at level 40 something I can't come back to get the last piece for lost city of Atlantis ending.
@@x91s55 my bad something I said seemed off, so I watched a video of the diemos final battle, i was mostly likely level 38 lmao. off by 1 digit. Its been kind of a blur because im playing odyssey and origins at the same time. I like both for what they are, though just being honest im not even interested in getting valhalla once I finish these 2, if you've played it, is it worth buying or should I wait for a price drop
i dont even think about assassins creed when playing oddyssey. i feel like exploring ancient greece as a bad ass mercenary , killing anyone i want and as a bonus i am the chosen one
Baby Chan it’s hard to feel like a badass mercenary when every enemy is a bullet sponge and I have to fight them using clunky unsatisfying combat.
@@spook3112 the combat could be much better
@@thefreshvince879 You're playing ASSASSINS CREED Odyssey. If you don't play as an ASSASSIN in the game that is ABOUT ASSASSINS, you should play another game.
@@thefreshvince879 Chosen one? Another cheap move to make players feel a false sense of pride and accomplishment.
@@memecliparchives2254 False sense ?its a game looll skyrim and others are the same thing and with shittier combat mechanics
This might be just me, but I absolutely think that AC Unity was taking the series in the right direction as far as innovations it brought to the series and because it was rushed out before it was done, it was received much worse than the game actually was. It's amazing as far as the world and atmosphere you get and it's still that classic AC that I love that involves planning out assassinations. If the Co-op had actually worked too OMG it would have been so good. I wish AC would develop a multiplayer coop again where you plan assassinations with your friends and carry them out how you all see fit with comms and everything.
This.
Unity had its issues, but if it was developed and optimized properly, it would have been received a lot differently. I still play Unity now because it is exactly what an AC game should be. And still looks good.
@@iraqvet87 The story would have still sucked and the melee combat was still too basic. The assassinations were great sure, but that's all it is. And Unity lacks content. Overall with its so called classic AC gameplay, Unity will still lack substance.
@@memecliparchives2254 totally agree with you...compared to new Ac games like origins it lacks a lot of content and unity combat system is not fluid at all. It's very basic.
@@iraqvet87 Unity had its issues but every game did. They revamped combat and made it not super easy. Had a good story, wasn't just a level grind. TOTALLY MASHED UP THE FREE RUNNING and made it fun!
YeahhDan Unity has been the closest thing to Assassins creed 2 since Assassins creed 2
Hate what they've done with the modern day. I remember being excited every time a new AC game would come out to figure out what will happen with Desmond next. After AC 3 it felt like the modern world has been ignored.
Agreed, I enjoyed modern-day sections, black flag was the next best thing and that wasn't too good
@Super JLK I just finished replaying AC4 yesterday and god damn that was such an awesome game. I never really cared for the present day apect of the games and I kinda liked how they did it in 4. They obviously couldn't just throw out the whole aspect of it but you can pretty much ignore most of it. Out of the 24 hours I played through the game probably around 20 minutes was taken up by the present day boredom
@Super JLK yeah I guess that would be fun. I personally didn't like it in the old games that much because I would be invested in the assassin's story and would be torn away from it for a story I didn't care for all that much. Maybe it was because I missed half of Desmond's story since AC1 and AC revelations were the only two main ac games I haven't played.
@@deanoneill3809 black flag is when modern setting went to shit. god i hated that abstergo game facility or whatever the fuck that was
This is a big bug bear for me. It used to be a fun game, slowly unveiling a bigger story in modern day. Now I barely touch on modern day. Do absolute minimum until I can go back in the animus.
I've always hated when people say "the microtransactions are optional", because the balance is always slightly off to encourage users to buy them.
Exactly! It’s not something people usually think about though so I do get why they say that, they genuinely don’t understand that a game has to be skewed to push MTX.
The worst part about microtransactions is that there'll always be an army of shit for brains that think it's a good thing. But the best it can ever be is forgivable, and only if it doesn't hurt regular gameplay AND is necessary to keep a team funded.
I ignore them all like for real only time I bought something from them was a pack as a joke (and I never use the items I only bought the pack for the horse skin that's ot
It irritates me when people defend microtransactions with that bull, because it often means the game is unbalanced or designed in a way to make people buy that bs, so gameplay is made worse than it has to be.
I'll amend it for you, "The microtransactions are optional, unless you have no control over your impulses and emotions and absolutely, positively MUST be the most optimal character in the game... at which point, looking yourself in the mirror and wondering why you're taking a trivial amusement so seriously is probably warranted. Will anything in your life change if you beat the game without being optimal? Do you have any other hobbies or interests that involve ACTUAL accomplishments that would satisfy your desire for competency, besides a goofy video game?"
That help?
I frankly enjoyed this game I just had to mentally disconnect this from the series and think more of it as a separate game
This is the same for me.
It sucks as an assassins creed but I have to admit that I had a good time
I think that's the problem
Yeah, they should just make the same type of games, just a different name, not related to AC whatsoever
@@ethanm8756 ♥️
If ubi played their cards right bayek could have been their new ezio
Yes
Yeah but I kind of like the idea of seeing new locations. Origins is long enough to be 3 games anyway
Nah, bakock's boring
@@kittydearrosari who
@@kittydearrosari who?
It always felt weird to me that you were a demigod and yet it takes forever for you to kill anybody. I mean Arno can just slit someone's throat with a small wrist blade and fuck off in the crowd while Kassandra is slashing endlessly at one dude with God weapons and they still don't die.
Facts
arno is the god tier assassin
Learn how to make builds
Man the pig boss fight where I gave up on this pigsh*t of a game
@@playhard719pig boss fight?😂😂😂u talkin bout the legendary boar?
Bayek is in AC Odyssey , he's a crew member on my ship.
Must've killed Doc Brown and Marty and took the DeLorean back 300 years lol. I don't use her, she's a bad character in my opinion anyways, but I have the option to use Evie as well.
@@Shadowfire204 I killed Rick and jumped into another dimension called micro currency store.
Bayek on the game
@@Parables_of_Prosperity You sell lawn accessories my dude?
@@blacktigerpaw1 I'm not hank hill, I'm black batman
Something that still confuses me to this day:
Why is someone guardsmen in Athens putting a bounty on me for killing a soldier in Sparta and how did he find out so fucking fast?
stupid, they have cellphones
@@yousufrazwan9583 lol, I just hope you're joking.
@@nikeshadow1728 ofc he's joking, is your iq lower than 5?
@@dominicrkent That would be fish.
Even the Phylakitai in Origins only reacts to the beacon after the local soldiers saw me kill his friends.
You know something has gone terribly wrong when you have "time savers" in offline games
When you buy gear as well
literally almost every ac game has them?
@@bujaa10 no they don't
@@sozzem8869 unity,syndicate,origins etc they don't have to be named "time savers" to acc be time savers lol
@@sozzem8869 yeah from black flag to mirage they have them so your just dumb or arrogant thinking you know more than die hard fans bro
Assassin's Creed was special because its biggest spectacle was found in the mundane for those who cared to Look & Listen.
There was action and epic moments but there were also moments of serenity, walking the Roman countryside under the moonlight or stopping to watch an artist sculpt marble in Venice.
Now it's just an action rpg with mythical creatures, spectacle and not much else in the way of those wonderous little details found in the moments where you'd stop to breathe.
Exactly. Don’t get me wrong I get the appeal of an action RPG with lots of loot and content totally but man, it’s just so basic and generic. Especially in comparison to the cool shit it used to be. There are more than enough games like the ac RPG’s out there but there’s really nothing like the older games. Assassins creed was cool BECAUSE it was so different and niche
its basically a hack and slash game
Man you can do exactly that in Odyssey.
Bro you can do all that in Odyssey, I love ancient Greece and mythology so I have visited every single temple and ruin like if I were a tourist
Unity: You could not live with your failure, Where did that bring you? Back to me.
100% true 😂😂
😂 so true
True for players, unfortunately not for ubi, *maybe next game*
rafsan pantho
Yeah but not origins
Absolutely not. Came back to the Ezio trilogy instead and always will.
I’ve spent hundreds of hours in Odyssey and love it. However, I don’t love it as an AC game because to me, Odyssey unfortunately is not an AC game. I have to mentally disconnect it from the franchise to really enjoy it.
Yeah same finally someone
Francisco Soares nahh, it’s just taking what origins was doing and doing it all a lot worse. The last game was objectively way way better
Yeah when i play it, i just think that i could be playing a better ac game. I play odyssey as an exploration game.
@@HieronymousLex Objectivity in the enjoyment of a work of art? Geez
Assassins Creed has been pretty lacking. This one was a nice refreshing change of pace. I’ve been wanting an Ancient Greek game for a long time and this scratches that itch. I wish they would have discarded the whole assassin crap and just called it Odyssey and had nothing to do with an Animus. The further away from AC this game gets the better
speaking of characters that feel real, i had a great conversation with an npc in this game. it went something like this:
Npc: mysthios i need your help, i am a doctor and one of my patients has not received his medicine because it was stolen by bandits, now he is delirous and roaming the streets infecting other people.
Me: Ah so you want me to get the medicine back?
Npc: No i want you to kill him.
LMAO i thought he was talking about killing the pacient
Hebert Sabino he was, the doctor wants you to kill the patient.
@@hebert0 yeah that actually was the mission :) i had to kill the sick guy
@@oerwout10 WHAT THE HEL LMFAO
Hebert Sabino no he is
The bit about how they fucked up the date of the construction of the Pyramids by thousands of years made me want to cry. I remember as clear as yesterday all the care that was put into the history explanation bits in AC1 and AC2 to be as historically accurate as possible while still fitting the fictional narrative in them.
AC1 i think is still the best exaple of doing "Alternative history" right. Just the great balance between historically accurate things and alternative history while weaving even the very concept of "Nothing is true" into the story through dialogues of both Desmond and Altair.
Like fuck, man, it pains me so much to know that there's some alternative timeline in which AC didn't turned into bullshit like Odyssey/Valhalla.
Diversity hires ruined it all
@@seeinredit's great cause they even have a great excuse to not alter the events of history as we know them. Just changing the context behind it
Made you want to cry? Really?
Surely you cried when you saw a giant gothic church in Acre in ac1 as well
To see Unity, and to see how insane that town looked with all those NPCs made me really miss Unity. It nailed a lot of stuff despite people giving it shit. Gonna re download it now...
I did just that. I liked it well enough at launch, but after playing Odyssey it just nice to play an AC game again.
Unity has it's own problems, but after patching it's a quite good game that probably got more right than wrong, and it seems that more abd more people are giving it a second chance.
Dillon Busby it’s actually incredible now. I’ve played it without zero bugs happening. The setting, the story, the lighting the music. It’s incredible. I’m downloading syndicate to give it another try. And from what I here origins is a good game, I have it, I just never opened it, it’s still in its cellophane wrapping.
@@gamemasteroffun origins was really good and it was a nice change to the series but I'm not too keen on Odyssey, Unity is probably my favorite game in the series aside from the Ezio trilogy
MicroSmokeSleet origins is great. It feels like assassin’s creed. It’s story is compelling and it’s world is alive. I recommend it 100%.
@@gamemasteroffun Yes Origins is fantastic! The character of Bayek is one of the best of the franchise, and the setting, liveliness, and beauty of the world is outstanding.
Kasandra in the gucci suit in the cave, that had me in tears.
I played through the game as Alexios, watching the kassandra gameplay made me laugh my ass off. It looks so much worse, but they just HAD to be gender neutral...
@@TheGhostLegend001 Idk what the fuck you're on about, but playing as Kassandra was leagues better than Alexios. Probably because the VA was much better and conveyed emotions better.
@@TheGhostLegend001 oh no. How dare ubisoft make you play as a female. Oh wait, it was optional. Too bad there aren't a million other great games where you have to play as a male. ✌
@@happyloser6981 You seem to have missed the point. The problem is not that the is a female protagonist, but that her dialogue thus her "character" is a combination of Alexios'.
She can't be herself because of the possibility of choosing Alexios and the degree of freedom in dialogue choices.
Happy Loser look dude, men and women are different creatures. We’re more alike than different for sure, but our differences compliment one another make life easier for one another. I have no problem with female characters, but if you’re going to do a female character in a game inspired by historical events, at least show history as it was. Kassandra wouldn’t be able to do half the shit she does if this game was more historically accurate. Ancient Greece, much like the rest of the world, was a highly patriarchal and misogynistic place. So it’s not that they allowed a female option, it’s that they allowed a female option while pretending like nothing would be different from alexios.
On the emptiness of the world here, in AC Origins I was so compelled and immersed in the world, I sometimes found myself just walking to destinations. I spent the time once to walk through a desert. I saw ghostly visions, defended myself against some bandits, experienced a sandstorm.
Odyssey I couldn’t even stand to play very long, it felt so lifeless and so stale, with none of the same care put into Origins.
Same with Red Dead Redemption 2. Sometimes, in that game, I’ll get off my horse and just walk it forward for awhile. Or trek up into the mountains, set up camp, hunt, cook, eat, fish, get tracked down by bounty hunters or sometimes ambushed by a pack of wolves, and spend a lot of time doing this. Just existing in the game world.
Odyssey, even Valhalla, failed to compel me to do any of that. To the point it feels almost impossible to do so.
Im.with you on that origins is the best in the trilogy is.not even close how much of a downgrade the sequels were
"get tracked down by bounty hunters or sometimes ambushed by a pack of wolves, " That literally happens in Odyssey lmao.
@@tsdobbi Yeah, that’s true, but those two events alone aren’t what I mean entirely when I talk about a world that feels alive
I haven't played Origins yet, only Odyssey and Valhalla. And I love both of those, though Odyssey a bit more, even though Valhalla had a bunch of things Odyssey didn't have that I quite liked. Objectively speaking I think Valhalla is better (more variety in things to do) but the world of Odyssey really pulled me in, it's and unforgettable experience to me. Valhalla I played about a year ago, didn't quite finish the story and honestly, I've forgotten almost everything about it. But if what you say is true I guess I'll have to check Origins out, cuz I do like the style of the new AC games.
I think you nailed it here, compelling, that's it, that's the problem with this game, the characters and world isn't compelling unlike RDR2 and Witcher 3, both have compelling characters and worlds.
Can you imagine if when playing Skyrim’s main quest where you had to kill a dragon in the watchtower, you’d have to farm some wolves to be level 15 to fight the dragon and unlock shouts, don’t worry tho you can go to river wood and buy the special deluxe high quality gourmet dovahkin xp booster
Yep... this isnt even a RPG it's just a level grind. Although AC4 was just a straight chain kill easy combat. That's what I miss. Because this game isn't a main combat game. It's a story game
@@waedi_ HOW is it complex ??? Its literally the arkham combat system but you have to buy or grind or else your attacks feel like love taps
@@mattfreak1206 both of them have roughly the same amount of complexity. The difference is black flag's combat was satisfying where as Odyssey's isn't.
@@BardicMadness Its not complicated at all. Theres nothing innovative or new here. Dodge and counter mechanics have been around for a decade. Whats annoying is levelling system in an ASSASSINS game. No matter how good you are you can only fight enemies like 6 levels higher max. Then your only choice is to grid. Lets not forget how moronic it is that you cant even instakill assassinate anyone higher level unless you grind and grind again, not even a SLEEPING target. Some assassins game this is. Logically a trained killer should be able to assassinate an unsuspecting target with a rusty fork, or even their bare hands (in the other assassins games). Level and grind mechanics have NO PLACE in an assassins game. It eliminates all realism and immersion.
@@mattfreak1206 i have rarely had an issue assassinating anyone even when they are levels ahead.
Fun Fact:
Assassin's Creed Odyssey was originally meant to be a spin off called "Odyssey: An assassin's creed game"
I believe that is why it lacks the key elements of an Assassin's Creed Game
it lacks the assassin elements because it is of a timeline much before the brotherhood even formed,they are not assassins.just enjoy the backstory
@@rahuldutta9303 no it lacks the element because they didn't even try. You don't need the assassin order to do assassinations .
I can't explain my points because it will take forever to write all those . But just Google search The Ten Tenets of making an AC game . It was written by developers of AC2. And oddessy misses all of that.
@@samarendra109 Do you have a link? Because I've been looking for it but I can't find it.
Ignacio Cañas 3 tenants not 10 and they are 1 stay your blade from the flesh of innocence 2 Hide in plain sight and be one with the crowd 3 never compromise the brotherhood now you don’t have to look it up the person who said it was 10 is wrong
@@XLCook12 Mr Dumbass , it's not tenets of Assassin's Brotherhood. It's the rules made by Ubisoft team about how to make an assassin's Creed game. Lazerzz have made a video on it. Search it.
AC Odyssey: *exists*
AC Fanbase: Look how they massacred my boy
*Real AC Fans
Spencer Ricker Ah yes because you’re only a real fan if you hate everything after AC 3 or 4 amirite? Fuck right off. I love Odyssey and Origins. Everyone else whining about their precious lore are missing out on a great game. I love and play the hell out of both games, so you can be an AC snob or you can enjoy the games individually and not lose your shit over boring lore stuff that hasn’t even mattered or made sense or been the least bit interesting since AC3 anyway.
@@wickedbadass4032 Somebody's butthurt
@@Ben10man2 Hahahahahah! Understatement
@@wickedbadass4032 AC Origins is decent as well, but Odyssey is just an uncreative mess
I came back to watch this video after the recent AC Showcase just to remind myself of how badly Ubisoft has burned me in the past. It certainly helped prevent me from being sucked in by their promises.
you and me both brother.
😢just started playing it and I can’t see it being an actual Ubisoft assassins creed gane
so I'm not the only one
@@juniorpayano4703 cry more
I gave up on Ubisoft after odyssey. Whatever excitement I had for future Ubisoft games was murdered by this soulless piece of garbage.
Ubisoft killed ac, in a game where u play as an assassin, you can’t even stealthily kill a person if he is a higher level than you
Second Cut well put. and yet some new fanboys are still defending it, saying “well it’s what AC going for now, just accept it cuz Ubisoft aint gonna turn back no more, I personally love it”
and no we’re not “playing as an assassin” anymore, plain mercenary
Patrice Tan 👏🏻
Ever heard of critical assassination m8? 300% assassin damage from stealth
@moysey83 i want the ability to actually assassinate people in a game named ASSASSINS CREED! even if i'm 2 levels less than my target
Am i the only one that loved Unity?.. it made me feel like a real assassin..and the parkour was the best of all assassin creed games.. in my opinion.
Recently got it on sale and I loved it, don't really see the hate towards.
@@wetcat6514 Unity isn't a bad game, currently playing through it myself and very much loving the game.
The backlash it got was basically down to the bugs that the game had, and unfortunately still has to this day. I've only gotten into the second act of the game but every time I sit down to play there are at least a couple bugs. None of them are game-breaking but it does slightly bother me. I think its a matter of your opinion on how polished a game needs to be to enjoy. They released Unity too early, and it suffered for it. I'm normally able to laugh at the occasional bug and see it as unplanned comic relief in an otherwise tense game.
Not everyone feels the same though, and plenty of people like their games to have as little bugs as possible, none preferably. The story itself is one of the most compelling in the series.
The Parkour looks the best. The game looks gorgeous. I like it. It's more close to the older acs after ac3 and black flag. That's why you feel the nostalgia of being an assassin. But the world structure and missions are nothing worth writing home about. I still like it though.
Unity was really, really bad at launch. It was a huge onslaught of glitches and bugs, so people were pretty pissed. But now that they have patched the worst out, it's a really decent game.
@@thepirateofjamaica
I don't know, but bugs have always been part of AC, at least in my experience. I always had ragdolls flopping trough Venice and Rome to New York. Walls and edges that the character just glitches down from again, slipping over the end of a roof etc.
Unity was hot garbage when it released, but now it's pretty much like any other AC that came before with it's occassional glitches and bugs.
A friend of mine absolutely loves this game and he convinced me to give it a try. After a few hours of gameplay, he asked me: "Well? It's pretty damn cool innit?"
My reaction was: "You know, I feel like this game is the size of an ocean, but has the depth of a puddle". I never really understood why I felt this way, until now.
You've described it perfectly and it totally resonates with my own opinion on this title.
I felt that too. I bought this game without looking at the reviews. I liked Origins, so I didn't expect this. I got to the point where I was trying to convince myself that it was good and something was going on with me. Because it's an 'Assassin's Creed' game right? No.
Way to use some shit thats been said by a million people before lmao. Acting all philosophical
@@robbarker2128 way to get triggered by a 3 month old comment
Eriko. Oy good job getting angry at somebody’s opinion
Sam Warren even the reviews say odyssey is better than origins it really is a laugh like metacritic,ign,imdb,pcgamer all like odyssey more than origins what bullshit
what's funny to me, is that the og social stealth forced you to stop, you HAD to take a look at the world, same with parkour, look for running paths, look for crowds, LOOK around
"Look here, LOOK LISTEN"
Wheres the funny in that?
Finally someone is pointing the real problems with Assassin's Creed Odyssey and not just "omg i don't like RPGS boo-hoo"
RPG is part of it
I enjoy RPGS and I believe that they're ok and an AC stand point. But its origins and oddesy (in my opinion) will never be as amazing as AC 3 or AC4 or even unity
@@Kalleebb Origins for me is WAAAAY better then AC3. I love Conor, but the story was very boring.
To be fair... using RPG mechanics in a game, context, and setting that doesn't work, in a franchise that never used them, is a pretty fair point.
@@DarkHorror45 Thats how I felt, I literally bought it only to waste time until RDR2 came out
“And fans of this game just tell people to shut up and don’t play it.”
That’s starting to make sense when you sort by new.
Exactly. People got mad at me for calling out the fan base, but it’s honestly like a cult of angry kids.
LazerzZ exactly lmaoooo it’s legit people who haven’t played the older ac Games they don’t know what there missing out on like it’s legit gta with no guns lmao 😂😂
@@LazerzZ cult of kosmos you might say 😂😂
@@LazerzZ "Cult of angry kids" ? Have you seen your own video and read the comments lol No offense but the angry cult is on the other end of this one. But I did enjoy it. Very entertaining video. I like to see people passionate about a brand I enjoy.
An errand boy just like oddssey
unity's npc population was just insane. That game's world was brilliant, and provides quite the contrast for a more modern AC. Shows just how good some of those older titles were
That whole game was insane for it's time
Not really. It had thr convenience where they only protest and it looks lively yet with no substance. Its all they do.
The saddest part is that literally almost ALL of Ubisofts games are like this now , from Odessey , to Ghost Recon , to far cry , all the way to the Division ...it’s just sad , they prioritize micro transactions over EVERYTHING , not to mention EVERY GAME is just the first level of that game copy and pasted throughout the whole rest of the world
I haven’t given Ubisoft any money since assassins creed origins and I refuse to buy oddesey or any other Ubisoft game because of this
I suspect Ragnarok will be like this. RPG is the mode now.
blacktigerpaw1 but like he said in the video , it isn’t even an RPG ...it’s honestly more like a hack & slash with VERY VERY limited rpg aspects , essentially just a copy & paste of the first level throughout the entire game
J Gar They’re making games more modern, its a new generation games weren’t going to be the same forever even for an entire franchise
Tigo _ dont get me wrong , change is 100% a good thing ...it stops them from getting stale as a series but the changes Ubisoft have made are change for the sake of change/“change”$ lol , not to make the series better
@@tigo_360 Ghost Recon Breakpoint looks like garbage game from the old times. Modern Warfare is the definition of a new game.
I read on Assassin's Creed wiki, that Ubisoft will now focus on more "Open World RPG" with "Less Narrative".
That's pretty much a giant f**k you from Ubisoft to all veteran players to the series, who liked a great story to the games.
Ouch! That's just disgusting to read. The AC fans became who they are BECAUSE of the narratives, not because of the constant farming and grinding.
Not only that, but it also undermines all the RPGS that DO have good narratives. The Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Red Dead Redemption 2 all serve as testaments of that fact.
Reading your comment I just about cried. I give up on this franchise.
NOBODY PLAYED THO OLD AC GAMES FOR THE FUCKING GRINDING. UGHH THIS MAKES ME MAD
Aqu95ila that genuinely hurt for me to read
Aqu95ila Yep. They pretty put a middle finger to the hardcore AC fans who most of them left because Ubisoft put the franchise in a dogshit of pile now.
Lmao “Ubisoft just stole my money” first time?
even origins and odyssey look pretty similar at first glance but its the small things like the npcs having conversations, calling out to you as you pass like they are trying to wrangle a customer or sitting down to do some work at a stall, even those convoys of supplies and money that barge through clearing people out as they go, things that might seem minute on first glance really make something feel more real
@@hersh2 not nearly as often though
That final montage got me good. I understand what you felt, growing up on this series it always amazed me how the music itself could make you feel so invested in these characters, the polarising ideals of assassins and Templar’s, yet with both having their merits. I couldn’t even bring myself to finish the first episode of fate of Atlantis let alone start the other two. It shocks me to reflect as you have done and just wonder how we went from moments like Ezio seeing Altair’s body in Masyaf and calling him his brother, to a ridiculous scene of killing your crazy psycho sibling.
Oddysey is what we feared Origins to be
Edit: thanks for the likes, I also really hope James sees this.
What's sad about Odyssey is how great Origins was, it's my favorite Assassin's Creed game. I fell in love with the open world, characters and gameplay.
Odyssey was like a cheap rip off.
@@westont98 Odyssey is absolutely incredible in my opinion
@@cosmicchorus9898 That's fine man. But I returned my copy. It ruined the lore, the gameplay was somehow worse than Origins and to top it all off it didn't even feel like an Assassin's Creed game
If it didn’t feel like an AC game then don’t treat it as such
@@noblechief4023 It literally has the title "Assassin's Creed" on it. How do I treat it as any other game when it pretends to take place in that universe, all the while, not understanding what makes an AC game, an AC game? That's like buying a Call of Duty game and pretending it's Battlefield. Or a Batman game but pretending you're Spider-Man in it. Literally makes no sense. I shouldn't have to pretend the game is something that it's not just to enjoy it. That's ridiculous
I thought i was crazy for not liking this game cause all my friends liked it, this video makes me feel better
I liked the game
Believe me, you’re not the only one who dislikes what this game has done to the series or even disliking it as a stand-alone game
Steve Robertson most casual gamers loved it. Most die-hard Assassin’s Creed fans did not, and they have been incredibly vocal about their concern for the direction Ubisoft is taking the series. The good news is that from information I have heard, the next instalment in the series is likely to be closer to a traditional AC game than Odyssey and maybe even more so than Origins. What I can almost guarantee is that the parkour will be much improved because everybody knows that the movement engines in Origins and Odyssey are both trash as far as AC is concerned. I’m hopeful now and I am looking forward to the next game, which isn’t something I said 8 months ago
@Steve Robertson Mate if your saying Assassin's Creed should take a shift away from actual Assassin's, your in the wrong franchise mate.
Lore wise it doesn't make sense for AC to allow you to make too many choices and have multiple endings because it's supposed to be things that have already happened and you must "synchronize" with them....
If Ezio got a sequel, then so can Bayek.
But they wont make one lol since ubisoft is braindead
Why would they give Bayek a sequel? It ended when it ended. Maybe Amunet should get the sequel but not Bayek
Sh4rks Tooth it should be origins aya/amunet sequel and then a team up one with two branching story lines that are both canon
Ezio is the favourite because he's got layers
@@omegarpg2007Bayek and Edward has layers.
When I tried to sit in a bench in this game and realized I couldn’t, my heart broke for a second
Well that’s fucking dumb it’s a game 😂
@@yeahyeahyeah-7674 stfu
@@yeahyeahyeah-7674 sitting on a bench was possible in assassins creed 1
@@dontwatch2666 I never said it wasn’t?
@@real_airgot you stfu, who’s heart gets broken over a pixels on a screen
I grew up with Assassin's Creed, I remember how much I looked forward to when Assassin's Creed Brotherhood came out
I played all the games, but unfortunately Ubisoft made something awful about it. And that's the saddest part
Same here. Money and greed. Isn't it a little ironic? Ubisoft just became Abstergo. But shittier, blander and more boring.
@@ErinnBastias nah, Abstergo is putting some serious work into world domination, Ubisoft is just doing easy mode and appeal to the wishes of casual gamers. I could live with buggy games like unity and black flag, but these grindy bad witcher/dark souls bastards (origins and odessey) are a pain in the ass to play. They need to go back to the roots.
100% agree. Everything up until ACIII was great for me. After that, it started going downhill fast. Unity, although I've personally never played it, looks great, but I got Odyssey the other day for $30.00 on the PlayStation store with the whole Season Pass deal (that came with III, thank God) and this game is absolute rubbish. The movement is disgusting, it doesn't even feel like Creed. I loved how in III they changed up how Connor moved about, and introduced more fluidity in the animations. This game just feels like I'm running around those SafeZones from The Division, except I'm running like that the whole time. Being able to scale any and everything and then jumping down the Empire State Building and surviving just makes me feel like I'm playing some derpy, modded up, RPG version of some Ubisoft dev's acid trip. The button mindless button mashing can drag you in, but this does not deserve to be called and Assassin's Creed.
@@hotvindilu1 hey, Same! The animations and kills in III were freaking brutal. Where the first one and the series with Ezio felt precise and deliberate, the combat in III felt like anger and passion from an outcast native guy getting by in colonial era. I've played Unity, but haven't finished yet, but I can say that it's miles better than what Odyssey looks. At least it feels like an AC game. I can say that at this point, the charm is kinda blown off and I can't really give a crap anymore about the modern day storyline, but everything that happens in the 1700s France is beautiful. Most of the time I just walk around the streets to get to my objective only to see what the city looks like. Paris feels alive, the movements are fluid, the freerunning is okay but suffers a little bit from this thing where you're aiming at a location and your character ends up somewhere entirely different. But that's always been AC. And there is actually falling damage.
Same bro first ac game I played as a kid was ac3 followed on by Ezio trilogy then blackflag then unity then syndicate oh I forgot rogue then this shit
It actively pisses me off when people say it's a good rpg but a bad ac game, because I went into this game cautiously optimistic, not even an ac fan, and it's just a bad game, it's neither good at being assassins creed or a videogame It felt like an occasionally pretty semi-fun game that bored the shit out of me, but strung me along on enough dopamine to a point where I still played, and when the dopamine shots ended and the dragon stopped being chaseable the game just sucked, its like an addiction that just sucks and never gave a good high in the first place.
EXACTLY. This game is only being called good because of the dopamine stimulus it gives. It’s not fun to play because you’re getting a fun experience out of it, it’s for a lot of people fun to play because they just want to mark checkboxes of a checklist which feels fun to do
So for the time being, Assassin's Creed ended with Origins.
But I haven't lost hope for a Assassin's Creed to return once again yet.
The franchise in a nutshell
I officially lost all hope for assassins creed. I just want the franchise to end so no more terrible rpg's be made in it's name.
The RPG system ain't bad, the skill tree is cool but I think they should combine some of the RPG elements with the original assassin's Creed Gameplay
Guy On RUclips 69 Honestly, I think they should just keep the Origins system, the perfect blend of linear player development and rpg player customization, as well as a great combat system, they threw that all away when they made Odyssey.
If they were to just make a sequel for Bayek or even Arno AC would be so much better for it
This franchise has broken all of us. The only assassins creed games I will pay attention to from now on are the ones from our man Ashraf and his team.
Same, just want my Bayek sequel then I'll go away.
Not all lmao
Thanks for the love and respect y'all.
They are making the new one, right?
@Jacob Rice how dare you think a game made by different people can vary in quality YORU TOXIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Just imagine if they gave enough time for Unity to be properly finished, none of this would have ever happened
That would've heavily changed AC for the better tbh
No, a lot of people would have been like "no pirates? It's bad"
unity is trash LMAO
@@xander1273 it's your opinion but would you care to explain what makes it so bad?
But then origins wouldn’t have existed :/
It's pretty rare for a single video to capture my attention for a full 45 minutes. You're explaining exactly what I couldn't put into words, it's a shame so many fanboys were downvoting this masterpiece of a video.
Thank you! And trust me the like:dislike ratio is actually far far better than I expected
BrokenArrow he captured my attention for the whole video and the ending broke me just like he said
worse yet, these fanboys are all swarming almost ALL Assassin’s Creed videos and rage defending their beloved Odyssey. ugh
@@patricetan which is a real shame. They say "it may not be an AC game, but it's a good game" and the problem is that (as the video masterfully explained) it's not.
No they are not fans of Assasins Creed. They are just people who happend to play Odyssey and don't care about what this series used to be. I have played all the games since the first one to Origins even playing such games as Bloodlines, I have read all the books and I decided to give Odyssey a chance. And all I know and all I loved in this series was gone. The lore shatered in pieces. Those people are not fans of Assasins Creed they are people who just see an RPG and they play it, not knowing the whole picture, not knowing what this games are about, They are about creed wich those people don't know. I hope the next games will be an Assasins Creed we true fans know not some random patchwork those impostors know. They are not fans, WE ARE.
That ending monologue makes me so sad every time I hear it. Alexa play Leave Her Johnny from Assassins Creed 4
LMFAOOOOOO
"the unnecessarily far away camera angle"
The distance of the camera to the player character in games generally correlates with how close you feel to the character. It's only natural that it would be pulled out more here
That's why in RDR2 your character takes up most of the screen
@@louisjefferies2733 God of War too
Hate the camera of this game
U can change the camera's distance dude
Corny
As someone ejo actually enjoyed the game, I must admit that your criticism was spot on. These are the many frustrations I ran in to while playing the game. But I still enjoyed it for what it was, and I finished it without spending a cent on micro transactions.
My biggest problem with odyssey that came to light for me was the levelling system. If I put hours into building my character and getting armour/weapons that have high stats and were difficult to find. I’d want that to show when I easily kill a low level enemy. I hate level scaling because it takes away from so many features and mechanics in the game.
Yeah levelling is really hard, but its still one of my favorite games, just that story and armor and other things
Bruh exactly. I been levelling up my character from doing alotta side quests but all the other characters are also at lvl 20 when I grinded to that level. Makes no sense for me to level up fast since they’re just gonna level up the same as me nonetheless. I get that they’re trying to balance it but it feels kind of a waste if they’re just the same level as you always.
That's one of the reasons why i love Skyrim so much, you start as a weak nobody with no equipment and end up becoming the strongest creature with legendary weapons you obtained from demons
This became apparent to me too. It didn’t feel like my effort was achieving anything
You should be able to turn scaling off if you want so you can godmode low level areas if you want
The camera position makes a huge difference to immersion, look how far away it is in Odyssey compared to Origins while walking, being closer feels way better.
I gotta hand it to you. You're one fan that can step back and argue, with proof, how a game doesn't make sense canonically and how it ruins the lore, all the while poking at dumb fans.
Also, can we talk about how these character models look worse while AC Unity, which came out in 2014, has better models?
odyssey got some 2009 lookin hexagon shapes lmao
Although Unity is my favorite, it has trouble running on a lot of platforms at times, adding those visual to a game the size of odyssee would destroy it. The option could be there between visuals and playability but I dont think we'd pick visuals if this massive game wouldnt be playable
@@0TTERBRO Yeah, it was a monster. Very ambitious. The new Xbox is able to play it at 60 fps now.
@@blacktigerpaw1 Niiice, I play on a gaming laptop but I was hoping to see unity being smooth somewhere, might pick up something stronger to play it in the future!
@@blacktigerpaw1 I mean just because someone likes a game doesn’t mean they are dumb
This is what a true AC fan that respects the core of the franchise is supposed to be like
There's a german saying, which basically means that you manage to say what I always thought but could never quite express with words. It fits here so well that I'd like to use it:
Du sprichst mir aus der Seele.
You're speaking from my soul.
By the way that epilogue was very emotional and powerful. The music, the clips, my memories and what you said made me tear up because of nostalgia but also the fact that what you say is, sadly, very true. Ubisoft doesn't care about what we love. They don't care about us. That is sad. That makes me cry to be honest. That my favourite game franchise is dead by now, and that they won't revive it if they're going on like this. I can not describe what I feel right now. You did that for me I guess.
I agree, personaly AC odyssey was my first "AC" game i played, i fell in love with it, the music and everything hit so hard with nostalgia when i was done with the game i felt like i have lived the life of alexios, its sad the youtuber doesn't feel the same thought, but i do agree when i started playing AC unity it was SO different i finally understood why people wanted new AC games to be like the old ones where parkour is so immersive and the stealth is so much better method to use then just going beserk, i still personaly love AC odyssey but i do agree with the youtuber its not really Assassin's creed anymore and in odyssey you dont even got a hidden blade.. and it fails a little to even be a RPG game but in my opinion i dont feel like they failed entirely, but i agree they could have done better.
@@BlazingFire9 I very much respect you for that comment, I feel like a lot of people struggle with coming to the conclusion that they like odyssey but that it's very understandable that old fans want something different. Oftentimes I hear things like "Well that's just how it is now, stop complaining and just enjoy it, this is way better than old AC anyways, it was boring back then, I don't like the old games". These people clearly haven't understood the importance this brand has to some people, nor because of the brand name but because of the deep world and the great characters and the emotional stories found within it, things that are only a fraction of everything that is missing from the series now. I'm happy to hear you enjoy odyssey that much, and I hope you'll have many more fun hours with the game. I respect you for being able to look beyond your personal experience and love for the game and relate to the people who complain about it and the current state of "Assassins Creed".
@@jasonbond5213 I Couldn't have said it better, if only more people could see our comments and ubisoft it might change the perspective of a lot of people and the brand as well, showing that maybe combining both games might just give everybody what they what and create and excellent game, if only ubisoft would listen to their fans and read our comments like these just imagen the great games that could have been made.
@@BlazingFire9 The thing is, I think if they read the comments they still wouldn't care. These new AC games have been the most selling ones ever. Taking it back into the old direction would be a financial risk and Ubisoft is very profit orientated. In addition to that such a combination of old and new would be a very tough thing to achieve, because you'd have to reduce the role-playing aspects to an extend that new fans might not condone, but that might still be too much role-playing for old fans. In addition to that a lot more care and thus time would have to go into the writing of these games, as old fans want all of the philosophy and the interesting ideological standpoints to play a big role again, something that, again, could scare off those among the new fans who don't care about that and just play it for fun quick gameplay. It's a tight ropewalk, one that comes with many risk, and the risk of losing money. Ubisoft won't attempt it as long as new AC sells. And it does.
@@jasonbond5213 Thats very true, but who knows what could happen in the future.
Odyssey's main quests, side quests and DLCs combined don't even have half the amount of passion this video has. Huge W bro👏
Mitchell Hart at least saints row knew it was a game that was to be played only to fuck around with
@@laithoweidat4384 Yeah lol. And that's probably what they intended Odyssey to be. A game u just mess around with coupled with a shit story no one was supposed to take seriously🤷♂️
In my opinion it was a good game and the dlcs were perfect 😎😀
@WZXBCV thank you and in my opinion Odyssey is well better than Origins
@@AD-oi2bz I mean Odyssey is just Origins with shit main characters and superpowers. Don't see how it's better at all
Lazerzz u probably won't see this but damn this video is good. It hits the nail on the head perfectly and you can tell how much work and dedication went into the vid. Well done
Thank you!
You've nailed it.
Started the game recently, thought it was good. Then noticed i had to unlock everything in a region in order to do the main quests.
Then I noticed how long it took and got to the point where i struggled to remember what the main plot was because i was spending so long grinding between main missions.
So then i caved and bought the xp boost.... And it was good for a time.
Level 36 now and its a grind again. I even bought some armour from the store but i dont have enough resources to keep upgrading it and money is running out just doing the main quests.
EVERYTHING is designed to get you to buy stuff.
I have lost total interest in the game. I'll complete it because im a weapon and ive spent too much money on it now not too, but this game is a disaster.
omg, u really dont know how to play.
@@alexandruacatrinei1032 yeah thats it
This game will be okay if you didn't need to farm xp by doing shit quest and the same thing again and again to progress in the main story i don't even understand why people love this game it's a waste of time if i want to grind i'm going to play Lost Ark or WoW
This is not true at all you can rush the main story and still be at a good level because main story mission give so much xp or you dont have à good build overall
I absolutely don't get this, I was comfortably overlevelled for most of the game, reached level 50 before even coming to Sparta.
The ending literally broke my heart... because I believe you when you said that AC is finished. I don’t think there will be redemption... I’ve lost hope.
almost shed a tear watching him uninstall
It’s so sad to hear that AC is finished.
It’s better than the other shite games which are just full of a boring world, shitty modern day, boring story, trailing missions
Pauli’s Cooking this is kinda one of those games. Meaning the receptiveness of every mission. The story is good but not executed properly. And I like some of the gaming mechanics but the game isn’t polished by any means. It has many flaws and bugs. It has great potential but the devs just flopped. It’s not a Horrible game but it’s far from a great game.
MC Cooper I get what your saying but the side mission story just covers up the actions of the mission itself. Your literally an errand boy the entire apart from dlc. And everything said in the video is on POINT. I literally can’t say it any better if you actually watch the video then you’ll get it.
My area during lockdown is busier than odysseys city centers
I advise you to have eye check up
@@kumarshivam1234 wtf 😂
🤣🤣🤣
@@kumarshivam1234 Why? Do you live in his area?
lol
This is so therapeutic, all my frustration laid bare in this video and expresses shit better then I would at this disaster of a game and total lack of care for a series I loved so much
threshi lol what? You trying to defend the game with cheap insults?
threshi lmaooo man you are hurt
Ethan parsons “disaster of a game”
You clearly have not played enough bad games my friend (*coughs* Metal Gear Survive).
AC Odyssey may not feel like an AC game but it does not equate to being bad.
Johnny1248 literally watch the video to prove why that statement is false
Odyssey is one of the best games I've played in a long time. I went from actively hating AC to being a huge fan and I can't wait for that Vikings game. Day one baby!!
me learning that Juno, who could be known as the franchises main villain, died in a comic no one cared about
Now THAT, was a powerful video. I can't wait for Valhalla because Ashraf and Darby are the only ones left that care about Assassin's Creed
Ashraf has been fired due to misconduct
@JoyJoe yes it is
I read it on an article online. www.eurogamer.net/amp/2020-08-14-assassins-creed-creative-director-ashraf-ismail-fired-from-ubisoft
@JoyJoe yes
The frustrating thing is that I think Origins was what the series needed to avoid fatigue, and an interesting starting point for a new direction that could be expanded upon.
But it feels like as soon as that sold well and got good reviews, Ubisoft saw it as an opportunity to just make it into the new formula. They immediately went back to a one year development cycle and basically tried to copy paste the format of Origins into a new setting and pad it out in a way that encourages spending.
The whole thing just feels so cynical, and that’s the most frustrating thing about modern Ubisoft. Their games have a ton of interesting concepts that sound intriguing but they seem content to just do the bare minimum instead of really following through on these ideas that could easily result in something really memorable and unique.
icantthinkofaname played both, I think Odyssey is better, mainly because the characters fell more alive
@@Nerfherder117 Odyssey felt more alive? Such an ugly lie.
@@Nerfherder117 if you think odyssey it's better, your tastes, but the only thing that's it's better on odyssey, it's the ship enviroment. sadly, they did not use that in the game, and put ship sessions on side quest or free roaming.
@@Nerfherder117 _"mainly because the characters fell more alive"_
LOL! I seriously hope to God you're joking. Kassandra will NEVER compare to characters like Bayek or Aya.
@@Nerfherder117 the comment you just said is wrong on so many levels, from both a gameplay and technical standpoint.
Of course, you can have an opinion, but an opinion can be wrong
I'm about 30 hours into Odyssey, and I'm beginning to notice that it's basically an alternation of surface level prettiness, and shallow, uninteresting locations and world interactions. It feels vast, yet empty. The beaches look beautiful as the sun sets over the isles, casting golden reflections of the shifting waves of the clear-blue Mediterranean seas. But the towns those beaches attach to have nothing of interest to find. They look nice from a distance, breaking up the natural landscapes with the telltale signs of humanity-- sun-kissed shingle roofs, and the nighttime lights hinting at lives being lived behind closed doors. But you come down from your clifftop perch, and go into the town itself, and its all just cut and pasted NPCs bumbling around doing fuck all
Game so repetitive and boring. I have 80h hour in the game and i have the same conclusion..
Yeah, think the same. The emptiness of the game even gave me a feeling of depression. There were not emotions that would connect me to this beautiful world.
That’s unfortunately been a problem since, arguably, ACIII, at least if you ask me.
I’m level 99 this game is amazing your probably just shit just saying bro
@@e1numerousoftimes.iamnoted389 nothing I said has anything to do with player skill. Anyways, I'm enjoying the game overall, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna ignore the fact it has some flaws in its design. Even the Valhalla devs have now gone on record to say the sequel will directly address these flaws by presenting a smaller, but more rich and varied world to explore, and less prohibitive leveling system to reduce grind, etc.
I've never felt someone's words so much than in this vid during the final words segment, especially after recently replaying all the older games up to rev & watching all your retrospectives over and over (im an addict i cant help it). I grew up with ac from 1 all the way through to odyssey and watched as the franchise I loved and cared for slowly turned into a cash grab that didn't care for the people who were there from the start. Ac was the first time I truly connected with a story and felt what the game wanted me to feel and now it just makes me feel dread. I love playing the older ones because it brings me back to those days but man it sucks how far its fallen now. Thank you for this and all your ac retrospectives they truly put into words how amazing this franchise used to be and what it was like growing up with it at its peak.
Thank you so much for the kind words 🙏🏻
Assassins Creed died when Desmond died. I loved Black Flag and had some good fun with Origins. But it just wasn’t Assassins Creed to me. I didn’t even bother buying Odyssey and after watching this, i’m glad I didn’t.
I think it's still a good buy but just not as an ac game the graphics connections etc but just not as an ac game
Same here.
zXRaikkonenFanXz Black Flag was one of the best AC games and kept its roots while integrating other mechanics building off of 3 and also continued the Keenway story line so I think that definitely felt likeAssassins Creed. Origins not so much
I feel exactly the same bro. Let's hope the new one is good. Doubt it will be.
how do you know you won't like the game because of the way one guy has portrayed words are a very powerful tool
"The unnecessarily far away camera angle." FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED. It bothered me so much in Odyssey.
Adjust the field of view. Jesus fuckin christ, you guys criticize the game but you don't bother to take a look at the fucking settings.
@@coolstorybro4398 because nobody before you thought of that..
The camera angle look awkward either way.
I swear it ruins 1v1 fights with a bounty hunter so much, it doesn't feel like a personal fight
That's rpg crap style my man.
I like the FOV in the older games and Origins. I hate Unity's FOV.
I agree it’s broken me to the point where assassin’s creed has just become a find the best outfit
@Mitchell Hart Woah, let's not use Bethesda as a standard for that now. They are garbage now as well.
@Mitchell Hart And Bethesda are guilty of that as well. Rockstar apparently sets the standard for voice acting, for the most part anyway.
@Mitchell Hart Only Abigail and to an extent, Sadie had inconsistent voice acting.
@Mitchell Hart But the losers on Reddit will say, "its a breath of fresh air. Something new" Fuck that shit, the game is straight up garbage.
Hahahaha you play Odessey and you sign a contract which says you will die if you keep playing so quit before it's too late. God the cringe it almost killed and it gave me depression . Never ever going to play again.
Leveling up is soo damm tedious,
It takes soo long that by the time I am ready to do another part of the main quest I have forgotten what the main quest even is
Playing Odyssey felt like watching a loved one in a car crash, it's awful but I just couldn't look away.
That's how committed to the franchise I am and I wish I wasn't.
Okay, yeah I felt that. "That's how committed to the franchise I am and I wish I wasn't."
Truer words haven't been spoken. Wish the series didn't come down this path. It ain't my fault.
That's so true, I played through all of it, just so I can say for sure that it really was an awful car crash
100% truth
Ramiro Garcilazo I litterally bought oddyssey to give the franchise a chance thinking “maybe just maybe there’s something” 100 hours in it’s a car crash for sure
Get a life and stop buying shity games weirdo
For the life of me I can't understand how anyone can defend microtransactions that help with the gameplay. How do they not see the harm it's doing to the industry? Like yeah, I gave more money to a company after I already bought the game, purely because I wanted to speed up the process of playing said game. Wow, what an amazing product.
You dont need them to finished the game despite.Just ignore them
@Dark Night Well thats your problem .
John veris And what happens when games become incredibly grindy and boring? This industry is a business. The infection of microtransactions will surely influence game design. It already started in fact. Microtransactions are a cancer, sooner or later they will completely infect the videogame industry. Why should developers/companies bother with making good game design choices when many players will gladly hand over their wallets?
I just ignore it
You know how to stop micro transactions for good? Don’t purchase them lol like all things consumers dictate the market. They aren’t going to spend money making these things that don’t sell. Why does no one under 30 years old understand this simple concept? Lol
The great appeal of the AC series was that, trough the animus, we were getting access to a hidden past, reliving history. Odissey broke that by indroducing a choice of character and dialogue options.
Yes it looks good, yes they put a lot of detail in the world build but it has no heart, no core. It doesn't tell you a story the way the ezio games told you.
Its not an AC game anymore. Its just another fancy sandbox and we get plenty of those nowadays already.
I've played all the other games and dlcs but i'm not even remotely interested in this one.
Tuff
Not just choice but the most flimsy ass choice
nigga we can see the bias from ur profile picture as an AC game it feels but as a standalone game and only focus on IT instead of the franchise, its a good game. dumb ass nigga
Arib I agree
@@rib4607 did you even watch the video? James compiled all that is wrong with the game in a clear way. If you cant see that this game is wank after watching there is something wrong with you.
I know this video is old but it’s still a good and informative video LazerzZ thank you 🙏🏽 , it is sad to see franchise go down hill but maybe one it might get fixed at least that’s what I’m hoping for anyway .
What's the point of leveling up when everybody else in the game levels up with you.....
Wot do u mean?
@@sparshan242 he means what he said, what's so difficult to understand?
M C the stupidest people love to comment on RUclips 😭
@@emon2689 it could be a mockery of what lazzerz said im just asking
@@richardgardner6142 yea because commenting on a thread without knowing what the person means is a big brain move. Congrats! U are stupid!
I'm always a fan of construcrive criticism, and I am an Assassin's Creed fan...
This critique really felt like it came from someone who cared for the series, the characters, the music, the feeling etc....
I just sincerely hope AC Valhalla will feel more like Origins which really made me think Ubisoft still cared. I want a game that not only treats the Assassin's Creed lore but also the fans in a way that makes them feel respected...
Is origins really that good? I've finished oddysey and do agree it was a bit eh, not horrible imo, but certainly not amazing. Planning on getting origins next week though if I can find a complete edition online. Hoping I'm not let down because origins has been praised like it's the best thing since sliced bread, but will see.
@@everilliem3292 origins is great 100x better than oddysey
Let say it's quite similar to Odyssey, but everything has more weight to it. Gameplay, world, narration, things matter and are far less superficial.
Everilliem Origins is definitely one of the best AC games in terms of world, protagonist and story. It tells essentially the most Assassin’s Creed esque story since AC Brotherhood or Revelations. People do praise Origins a lot, and it’s not perfect, but it is very good. What Origins gets right it absolutely nails, and what it gets wrong is just minor compared to the quality the rest of the game has. Like the biggest issue people had with Origins was that the combat felt too light, which I agree with. But comparing that to all the stuff Ashraf’s team got right, like the setting, the narrative beats, Bayek as a character, tying in proper AC lore to the world, you don’t care about the little issues.
Everilliem My advice is go into Origins not expecting the best game ever made, but go into it knowing the passion it holds as an AC game. Because when you play it you can really tell the devs care about the franchise. Origins is not perfect, and you shouldn’t expect it to be because you’ll be let down. But imo it has my favorite AC protagonist and favorite setting/story even.
The best time to be an Assassin's Creed fan was during the Desmond Miles era, because at least, they had some idea of where they were doing with it. Great games like Black Flag and Origins came after (both from AC HQ of Montréal), but things just... haven't been the same even with those games.
Assassin's Creed being great not only because of the memory and story in the past, They also have a story in the modern era.
What actually make rogue, unity and syndicate lesser, or to say making the original Assassin's Creed, the Ezio Trilogy, AC3 feel better, is the connection to the modern storyline. Not something that you can remove from the game and dumped into a comic instead. Assassin's Creed is about assassins, not only from the past, but also in the modern era. It is a game to play as modern assassins, who enter the Animus to learn from the past giants, to discover truth and information that they lack.
So to be honest, in terms of the storyline, I was pretty excited when they introduced Layla as the main character of the modern era, meaning that they finally realize the importance of modern era storyline in the games. They wanted to develop it, not just removing it and sent it to comics.
But turns out they screwed that up in Odyssey.
What worse is that, Odyssey is a main game, not a spin-off, not a novel, not a comics. It is not something that can be "oops, everyone forget about that, let move on". It is that main game, the backbone of the whole AC universe. The failure is now engraved in the Canon of AC. All games, novels and comics from now on would be built on this one.
It is outrageous. Especially for one of the best selling franchise of a company, how could they allow a game that deny the core settings of the universe? What's done is done, now the sequel games must redeem what can't be redeem easily. A staff of Eden, huh.
I'd say they can blow it up somehow. That's too OP to exist in the modern storyline.
thank the Lord i was playing since AC 2 XP
@@xero9ravity150 AC1 was good just the reptitive quests made it a average game im pretty sure if they did a remake the times its set in and the story made it good
@@ThoughtOuter ye, i just don't like that it doesn't have cutscenes lul
"You can slaughter an entire village" "
Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent" Assassin's Creed 2018 everybody
MGS Oficial rules weren’t established yet in the timeline
@@thomasfocht363 Yeah, thats why this game has no reason to exist.
Bruh i just read this in Shay Patric Cormac's accent for some reason.....
Assassin's Creed Rogue Anybody?
You play as a mercenary with no rules.
MGS Oficial the CREED DID NOT EXIST IN ANCIENT GREECE THATS YOU CAN KILL CIVILIANS B/C THE CREED DID NOT EXIST UNTIL WAY LATER
This review broke me. I couldn’t finish it. Good job
I once watched an interview with the two voice actors of kassandra and alexios. They have both played the game themselves oddly enough and they were asked some basic questions about the game. One of the questions asked was what their favorite side character was... both of them struggled to find an answer. Which shows how boring the characters are even in the main questline. I believe they ended up both saying their favorite was the quartermaster of you ship (I think his name was Barnebas or something)
Yep, barnabas was the only character u can choose since he has some personality and has some funny lines, the rest i can't even remember them
Barnabas was the only likeable character so far.
You guys forget about Phoebe?
@@warflame5912 Phoibe was awfully forgettable for me tbh.. I couldn't care at all when she died which says something lol
As a professional philosopher, I loved being able to meet and chat with Socrates so much (and also very briefly meet Plato as a kid). But he's such a good character in the game because in real life he was such a good character!
I was mostly disappointed that they didn't give you any real opportunity to challenge him intellectually. They basically gave you one option to continue the conversation, and another to just say "this is stupid". I mean, I know Kassandra and Alexios aren't explicitly intellectuals, but why couldn't they give you the option at least?
Just hoping for “Assassin’s Creed Valhalla Fixed Me”
You should see the ratio on the leaked footage.
blacktigerpaw1 im waiting for official gameplay, you cant judge a game just off leaked footage
blacktigerpaw1 I think that was due to the misleading title instead of the actual “gameplay”
@@jessieoleary3734 I've seen some. It really does look like Odyssey, albeit with social blending put in again.
It looks like the same
Despite the problems it had, there were a lot of things in Unity I wish they didn't abandon. Also there's the fact that that game still looks better graphically than any of the games since.
Hell it's customization was way better compared to Odyssey. I could make an assassin that felt like my own through mixing and matching weapons and pieces of armor and clothing, you know, something an "rpg" should be doing.
Then there's the parkour of Unity, while flawed, if they had just built upon it we could have had a perfect system but they immediately abandoned it.
Then there's the fact that with few exceptions, we are getting increasingly worse characters and protagonists. That's in large part the fault of the fan bases bitching and moaning that characters were too serious and not enough like Ezio. We get Arno, as close to what everyone was asking for but everyone hated him still, partially because he got depressed and drunk a few times. At least he felt like a fucking human. Connor got shit for being serious. Why wouldn't he be after what he went through. Evie was shit but because she was the first mainline female character, her seriousness was fine while Jacob was likeable for his "charisma" when he was really just a bumbling dumbass. Now we get Alexios/Kassandra who have all the problems you mentioned in this video.
Speaking of which, people complained about Desmond and the present day. While not the greatest, I still liked it, it was serviceable. Then they killed him off and couldn't figure out what they wanted to do and now we have Layla who is fucking terrible along with a terrible present day. The only reason I'm glad Desmond is dead is that Nolan North's name is no longer attached to this shit.
Then there's what you mentioned about the precursor race and the fact that they disregard that and added magic and mythological gods into the mix.
You also mention the music. Why the fuck is "Ezio's Family", his theme, playing all the time in Odyssey?
Honestly I miss Altaïr, Ezio and the Kenways.(I know this is kinda all over the place but these are my thoughts)
Arno's drunkenness and depression are very human, and so are his attempts at redemption. We don't see too often an emotionallly deep guy like that who isn't a cuck and loves with all his heart.
Honestly Unity probably has the best gameplay and really shouldve been more fleshed out. Just imagine 2 but with unity's game play mechanics and you have an absolutely brilliant game
Just visit LeoK's youtube channel and watch him destroy Unity with ultimate stealth gameplay. That game required brains to be stealthy. You had so many accessories with you and you had to use them to get the job done. Smoke bombs actually were useful. Cherry bombs got all your targets in on place. You had to plan according to guards patrolling system cuz you could not one shot all of them. But get close enough and you could assassinate them. If it hadn't been a broken thing at its release, it would have been epic.
Same also miss the kenways
Yes no human will be charismatic asshole after seeing his/her getting burnt alive and learning that his own father is mortal enemy of their life. Conner as a character was perfect and the same with Arno. They were great characters, they had distinct personalities. Also the only reason Ubisoft changed the gameplay is to introduce the macro transactions. They could have improved on the combat mechanics of unity. But no, need to have level gating so we can nickel and dime our users. The odyssey and origins should have been a new franchise, they don’t belong to AC. If they were made as a new franchise, those who are enjoying the game now, wouldn’t got affected since they don’t really care about assassins creed as a series.
I am currently at timestamp 8:18, I was very surprised to hear you had this conflicting views of the character creation. And you made some excellent points. Specifically the gender neutral. I completely agree in that Kassandra feels completely out of her element. It really does feel as if shes treated as a male, which is not true when playing with Alexios. In my humble opinion Kasandra is the lesser experience, as Alexios Deimos just comes off as raged and one dimensional (leading to most people believing the true goal is to kill him). Kassandra as Deimos is actually fucking terrifying, she's a better Deimos in all honesty. But Alexios is a much better Eagle Bearer, he just holds better the suspension of disbelief. It doesnt feel Odd that he is a Spartan Warrior, that he fucks left to right (Greeks actually practiced a lot of homosexuality, specially among higher classes.), that he is not always self composed and quick tempered because it is dutifully reflected in the voice acting. The one area it lacks is emotional connection. (No spoilers. Th end scene of the Athens act just hits like a truck when performed by Kassandra). When playing as Kassandra most things feels well wrong I guess? How would nobody bat an eye that a woman is competing with men at the Olympics? Not that it's wrong but it shouldv'e been remarked. To say she's the Cannon protagonist while never acknowledging she IS a woman through dialog, subtext and she overcoming social tropes is what defeats the story. Believe me when I tell you that your experience wouldn't have been as conflicting with Alexios as protagonist.
For whatever it is worth, when I first played the game - well before the release of even the first DLC, I had chosen Kassandra as my protagonist. I distinctly recall, despite it being years ago now, that at one point in the Present Day sections, all the voice lines and story beats were playing out with Alexios as my protagonist.
Almost as if Alexios was the planned protagonist all along, and the game had bugged out and defaulted the voice lines to Alexios, because the Kassandra choice was added later in development...
But I may be reading too far into things. After all, Kassandra is now the canonical choice, isn't she?
Absolutely disagree. Alexios voice actor is flat, and you yourself admitted it - saying he is a one dimensional Deimos.
I'd rather have a one-dimensial character as an NPC, not as the protagonist though.
Unfortunately, I blame Origins for the direction assassin's creed is heading. People liked Origins and how "new" it was for assassin's creed but didn't realize the long term affects it'll have on the franchise. Give developers an inch, they'll give you a mile.
U can't blame origins for being original. Thats like blaming black ops 2 (the best cod by alot of the fanbase) for going into the future and causing the cod games after to also go to the future.
@@TH3FU113ZT
Good point. Good point.
@@TH3FU113ZT Except Origins wasn't original, they literally sayed they copied Witcher 3.
@@nothisispatrick5691 original for assassin's creed
@@nothisispatrick5691 By that logic, Horizon Zero Dawn also copied from the Witcher 3. And mind you, that's a new IP.
In retrospect, Origins took inspiration more from Horizon and less from the Witcher 3. The only they "copied" is the camera angle, hit box combat, etc.
Rdr2 did it right
I always wanted to search abandoned towns
Always had random encounters
Always went hunting for cooler customizations
This is the first Assassin's Creed game I never finish it because I don't care anymore, so yeah this game really broke me too.
Me too :(
I finished the game, but I honestly wish I didn't.
this and syndicate are the only ones i didn’t finish
The series died after Unity.
I only finished everything down to the DLCs just to be prepared for Valhalla tbh. I’d do myself a favor and read some recaps instead but I’m one of those guys who’d rather experience things first hand, no matter how excruciating it could be
And it sucks that Their game about Ancient Greece was handled so poorly. It’s such an interesting time period and they handled it so poorly
Odyssey takes a massive advantage of its setting. Idk if youre sarcastic or just havent played the game
@@Engille967 God help anyone who has played this shit. I feel bad for them
@@Engille967 I can't even take Odyssey seriously tf you mean ? You literally have to fight mystical creatures like Medusas and such. When in AC have you had to do such bullshit. Origins had it but that was a dream sequence for Bayek.
@@Taschip stop bluffing
@@leonecartelreborn9628 mythical creatures being pieces of eden is a much better reason to include them than a dream. Unrealistic things were always a thing in assassin's creed games. For example the leap of faith, the isu, pieces of eden. I bet you didnt complain then and you only notice bad things on the new games because of the type of stupidity under the name popular opinion.
I remember playing AC Origins and finding the mine where Egyptians mine the material used to preserve mummies (netron? Correct me if I'm wrong). I was so fascinated and watched the NPCs and their routine as they go about their work. No such detail in Odyssey...
Origins was miles better. The only thing about odyssey i liked was individual clothing sets. I did not like the full uniform pieces with no customization that you got with bayek once i found one i liked i just stuck with it the whole game. It also improved on the spear combat. I hated using the spear in origins but liked it more in odyessy. But everything else was better in origins. They completely nerfed the axe in odyssey it used to be my favorite weapon with bayek. The serpent blade was amazing and having different bows dedicated to each arrow type. Fast bow, long draw bow, hunter/sniper bow, shotgun style bow, and fast firing bow and not needing powerups to use the different types. Also how does game like odyssey which is pretty much all water and feature naval combat heavily have almost nothing to look for in the water? Origins had so much more reasons to be in the water with all the sunken locations. Ex points and leveling was better in origins it felt like you actually achieved something.
@ Yeah, I might be wrong on the name of the material mined. Perhaps it wasn't netron.
You are kind of right? I'm not too sure, as I am not the person you should speak to about Egyptian History, but this is what I found on the website for the Spurlock Museum in Illinois:
Natron, a naturally-occurring salt, has been found in cases and jars in tombs, in packages in tombs, in pits with refuse embalming materials, encrusted in wooden embalming tables, and on certain mummies.
www.spurlock.illinois.edu/exhibits/online/mummification/materials.html
Taka Baruna this seems similar but when a solider is dead in a fort or something be of the other shoulder will carry out side at the entrance for birds or in honor
I've seen similar things in odyssey
Bro that conclusion almost made me cry. I never realised how much AC meant to me. Also that last line was fucking good.
I will be honest this game broke my heart, my love of assassins creed was damaged with this game
Same
Earl Smith and to think people think this was better than origins
Me too
@@gabrielluncsford9237 Or even people way Origins caused this. But it's apparently Odyssey who caused all of the clusterfuck with not only Assassins Creed but also other Ubisoft franchises. Far Cry New Dawn and Watchdogs Legion and Ghost Recon Breakpoint, see what I mean and even then enthusiasts of those games like OperatorDrewski and WillyB, who are more laid back and relaxed fans of the games are already critiquing them.
@@gabrielluncsford9237 well it is.
One moment that genuinely surprised me in this game was when I went to help the medical guy with a patient who was dying (I can’t be bothered to remember the doctors name bc Greek names)
But he sends me on a mission to recover something to save this dying man. I say “nah this boring” so I go do the other quest I have available in the same odyssey line. I finish that quest and then come back to the medical guy and would you look at that, the patient has died. This genuinely surprised me bc in the 25 hours I’ve had in the game so far, nothing like this had happened to me yet. It was refreshing to actually see my neglect turn into something rather than the guy just be dying for days and days until I recovered the item. With that being said though I agree with everything you’re saying. The game is lazy. The game is a fake rpg. The reason I love it is because of the setting and the beauty of the world. The thing that really pissed me off tho is the fact that I can’t assasinate people in one hit. How tf am I jumping off a 30 ft building onto a man with a fucking spear and not killing him? I know I should boost my asssasin damage but at the same time, the game is fucking called “assassins creed” . Let me be a fucking assassin. Be realistic. You can’t get stabbed by a man jumping off a building on top of you and just get up and walk away. I understand if bosses survive bc gameplay reasons but little regular dudes surviving that? Nah
I have hope in my heart that Ashraf and Darby will try their hardest to bring the series back to us with Valhalla and hopefully every game after, but even with that I'm ashamed to know that Assassin's Creed will never recover from this shipwreck of a game..
I know that this wasn’t a good assassins creed game, but as a stand-alone game I really enjoyed the story. But I really hope they get Valhalla right
SoloG0625 I also enjoyed oddysey but not because its a good ac game or a good game in general i just love the greek mythology and after thinking abot it I only played oddysey because I wanted it to be good I wanted a good game in ancient greek but at the end I have to say im truly sorry about the time I investet in this game edit: fixed some misspelling
SoloG0625 Valhalla is in much better hands dev wise with Ashraf and Darby
@@irecordwithaphone1856 ash is out of the team rn
John Ramos Yes but considering the games release date is this fall the game is basically complete, it would make no sense if it wasn’t. They’re in the polish stage which mean all the creative decisions have mostly been made
@@irecordwithaphone1856 I’d be interested in how you’re feeling about Valhalla now that we’ve seen gameplay and stuff? It sadly just doesn’t click for me, but I’m also not much into Vikings