That's the first time, i saw a review, comparing a press unit and a retail unit. I would highly appreciate, if you do more of such comparisons. I am sure, there are several manufacturers, that collect great reviews and then sell cheaper products, with the same name, to their customers
Thanks for this, around 4 years back I had exactly the same experience with 2 "identical" ADATA drives (model: SX8000NP).... both of them with issues now. No more ADATA for me... ever :D
Also of note: Most of the XPG DDR5-6000 reviews got kits using Hynix M-die ICs which are the best for overclocking thus far, but retail models like the one I bought and returned came with Samsung ICs, not as strong as Hynix.
IMO even a component change for legitimate reasons should have a revision listings/notification. If motherboards are down to the bios level notification, then SSD suppliers can do the same.
Idk but smells like a lawsuit what they are doing is true. I mean Imagine at a front store showing people an apple how good the interior is and how tasty it is, only when they buy it off the shelves they get rotten apple inside... -.-
@@knightnxk2906 Yeah, that happens sadly. Car sales especially (I've known of a horror story where the person buying a new car, it got hit by the delivery truck, and they still signed over the paperwork of the half trashed car to him instead of picking a second unsmashed new car off the lot).
After a company has already gone through a really bad scandal, this is a very good indication for me to just not buy adata products for at least a couple years
I've had that nvme for the past 6 months, it works fine 99% of the time BUT I've had an issue on 4 different occasions where it would not boot. On bios it would show with a different name and with just a few mb's of free space. I googled it and a lot of users have seen the same issue, some users have been unable to use it again at all, so honestly, I would not buy it again (I am unable to return it for unrelated reasons)
it is not up to you to solve the "puzzle" of ADATA lack of quality or quylity control, but you did great job showing us this issues that happens on the market. So , from my perspective you did excellent ballancing bettween us consumers and manufactures . Well done!
Kudos ,, It is one of the cheapest 2TB pci gen 4 fast ssd in India right now, I was looking for some review on performance, thank god, you saved me and also many people from comments. In my past I had mixed experience, 1 still running after 4 years and 1 failed in warranty and got replaced. But changing the retail unit components is quite extreme and completely dishonest to customers. So I will also stay away from ADATA.
I think these companies will try any tactic available in order to make as much money as possible. Cheating with review samples has been going on for as long as I've been a computer enthusiast (since the beginning of the '90s) and I don't see this changing any time soon.
There are two ssd variant. Both have innogrit G5236 memory controller. But one have faster Micron B47R nand flash, and other one have YMTC CDT1B nand flash. Micron one is 176 tlc nand flash while ymtc one is 128 layer nand flash.
I'm 11 months late, but thanks very much for your video. I was looking for an NVME since I need an upgrade. And I almost bought this exact one because of the low price. Good thing I saw this so I just looked for a new one and bought a more awesome Silicon Power UD90, much cheaper too. I'm not going to sugar coat it, but ADATA is a crappy company, it is intentionally shady. It's blatant misadvertising and in alot of countries that's illegal. If they replaced it with inferior hardware then it's not the same product anymore. It's like buying a Porsche then when the person opens the hood there's a Honda engine in it.
I knew it when looking at the last review i was like where the F*** did this come from, yeah no was already going firecuda 530 now getting it even more
A year plus late. Techtesters, if you see this, the reason why one performs much differently is the NAND. The review sample uses Micron's 176L NAND process, whilst the retail model is YMTC's 128L NAND process, which is cheaper, but there are rumours that this NAND with that controller will cause strange bugs like firmware corruption (that have been fixed at a hardware level).
@@bm5945 you can use VLO NAME tools to figure out - these are not my tools, neither did I make them. Be sure to have RAID disabled in BIOS. Sorry for the late reply.
Better then that, what we need is a government from a major sales market to step in and require that *_ANY change in components/hardware REQUIRE a new model number!_*
FYI FOR ANYONE CONSIDERING TO BUY THIS SSD DO NOT buy it as Adata has again changed the controller and the drive just does not last. I have had it replaced twice in 6 months and now service center has offered me an alternate drive like Legend 960 instead of S70 due to countless issues reported to them. Adata isn't even keeping it in stock anymore here(India)
Thank you! I have been waiting for this review of yours for a long time, the truth is that the price of the SSD is the first thing that catches your attention, but with what you share with us we will be able to take a better one. 😉👌🏽
Hi I'm looking for a M.2 ssd for gaming and coding with Python and C++. So watching your videos for a While. Before 1 or 2 hours I want to buy a 980 PRO but KC3000, S70, SN850 and Spatium M480 makes me confused so i think i need a professionels help. Which one should i Buy? I will buy 1TB btw. Thanks in advance.
@@Ramattra-ow no one .D i live in turkey so i decided to wait. U know we have a high inflation rate and have are goint go have an election in march 2023. I hope something go better after elections. So im waiting
Im facing an issue with XPX S70 blade SSD . I have installed windows on it and after booting my PC is constantly getting crash in 10 sec as soon as it shows me windows lock screen. And later on my Motherboard shows me display Error. I was thinking my GPU GTX 3080 has an issue because of the lower power supply of 750W. Then I changed my GPU with the lowest TDP Gt730 but still facing the issue remains. Later on i did the research on ssd and found XPG has the worst experience in SSD market
got a sx8200pnp non pro 256gb... every now and then it corrupted my windows so often that i hate it, and sometimes it just crash out of nowhere, bsod, and can't even boot into windows if i didn't perform hard restart .. saving for new ssd.. no more adata ssd for me
Excellent vid. I'm a hobby builder and the one family/friends/co-workers comes to for builds & advice.. and I was 1 of the SX8200 buyers.. soooo, yeah.. never recommending/purchasing ANYTHING from ADATA again.. ever!
I have a video idea. Its actually similar to your content now Accept the sample and buy another from the market and review the samples together the first time. Leave out reviewing the sample sent to you alone. I don't know. Hahha lol
I have ps5 sticker on my retail unit too, maybe you should buy another retail one which has ps5 sticker as it is made in Taiwan. And performance equally to the sample unit they send you. Or the retail you recieved must be a duplicate and not the original one.
6:24 🤷🏼 nvme it's maybe the hardest component to test. CPU and GPU are easy, but that and PSU... I guess only when the underperform, kill other components or just die along with the most precious data
It's funny, in the back of my mind, I always have ADATA as a kind of premium noname brand that I tend to avoid not considering it an actual value brand. I know this is not exactly the case but that's my first gut feeling every time I come across one of their products while looking for something. Pretty sure these kinds of shenanigans are a big factor that give me that feeling. Long story short, I don't think ADATA will ever get my business.
ture, same. But what they usually do is make partners with some repair shops for better deals, that's usually where you could find ADATA in or from originating the most.
ADATA needs to step up and explain. Either it was something that they did not know about and will investigate. Or it was noticed and the new stock has been updated... add big Ver 2 sticker to the box.
hmmmmmm. This is a good video, I would be interested in seeing more testing with these drives to see what's up. edit--- Oh, since you asked I would look at what is actually done with the consistency bench and then go through them to see if there is a specific workload that is tanking performance.
Weird that one drive has silicone glue on the chip and the other one does not. should not do anything for performance, but durability could be better with the glue.
Not necessarily. I just bought a new "Made in Taiwan" 1TB variant. And it got a Refurbished PCB with "used" scratch marks and some oxidation marks on the edge connectors straight out of the box. Albeit SSD stats shows it's new. I've never expected them to get this low.
had no idea about any of the component switching they did.. I was looking at getting a bigger RAM kit and faster m.2 since I just upgraded other hardware and was looking at getting ADATA again because the external storage drive and RAM kit I got of theirs years ago has performed well without dipping so I wanted to add more but the kit I have was removed from shelves a few months ago so I was looking for a kit from them that's similar but hearing about the shadiness is putting me off
Many brands do this and it’s not sinister per se. But without clear disclosure and information you don’t know what you’re buying. So as reviewers we just have to speak out, even if most will likely be completely fine and/or decent buys.
I've gotten 3 of these so far. 2 were good, but the latest one I stuck in my TrueNAS build as L2ARC gave me tons of checksum and read/write errors. Ended up having to return it as defective.
Is it me or ADATA is suppose to be dead for any respectable tech person after they did something like this even once? We cant forgive this shit... dont tell me I need to explain where absence of punishment leads, dont tell me we dont have enough examples of this in and around PC\Tech.
Maybe it's a specific component on that older batch that's affecting the consistency test. It would be great to test a couple more but from different batches.
I have one of the original 8200 drives you mentioned. Mine was a fast version and I am still happy with it. However after learning about the bait and switch I stick with brands that manufacturer memory like Samsung, intel, sandisk and crucial. My next storage drive will be a intel 670 just for game storage on my PC
That's the first time, i saw a review, comparing a press unit and a retail unit. I would highly appreciate, if you do more of such comparisons. I am sure, there are several manufacturers, that collect great reviews and then sell cheaper products, with the same name, to their customers
Thanks for this, around 4 years back I had exactly the same experience with 2 "identical" ADATA drives (model: SX8000NP).... both of them with issues now. No more ADATA for me... ever :D
What do you use now??
yeah. followup
Great job with this investigation and video! We need more to put in the effort of keeping brands honest.
thanks for doing this video. even with that anomaly result, i'm still avoiding this brand.
Also of note: Most of the XPG DDR5-6000 reviews got kits using Hynix M-die ICs which are the best for overclocking thus far, but retail models like the one I bought and returned came with Samsung ICs, not as strong as Hynix.
thats normal behavior in ram, memory manufacturers can use different die makers, sometimes in the same sku models. but thats not normal in ssd
IMO even a component change for legitimate reasons should have a revision listings/notification. If motherboards are down to the bios level notification, then SSD suppliers can do the same.
Idk but smells like a lawsuit what they are doing is true. I mean Imagine at a front store showing people an apple how good the interior is and how tasty it is, only when they buy it off the shelves they get rotten apple inside... -.-
@@knightnxk2906 Yeah, that happens sadly. Car sales especially (I've known of a horror story where the person buying a new car, it got hit by the delivery truck, and they still signed over the paperwork of the half trashed car to him instead of picking a second unsmashed new car off the lot).
@@TechyBen wow that is super sad :c
This is the fastest I clicked on a review video by you kind folks! Keep up the good work! :D
Well done and I won't be buying any ADATA equipment ever again. Thanks for the review and a BIG thumbs up.
After a company has already gone through a really bad scandal, this is a very good indication for me to just not buy adata products for at least a couple years
always count on you for the real news!!! thank you
Good on you for pointing this out.. 👍👍
ADATA was a pioneer in those shady practices
Were they really the "pioneer" of the practice tho? Or just first to be exposed? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ unlikely we will ever know conclusively
I've had that nvme for the past 6 months, it works fine 99% of the time BUT I've had an issue on 4 different occasions where it would not boot. On bios it would show with a different name and with just a few mb's of free space. I googled it and a lot of users have seen the same issue, some users have been unable to use it again at all, so honestly, I would not buy it again (I am unable to return it for unrelated reasons)
Wow, amazingly helpful video.
I remember hearing about this years ago. Thanks for reminding me of this shady practice
it is not up to you to solve the "puzzle" of ADATA lack of quality or quylity control, but you did great job showing us this issues that happens on the market. So , from my perspective you did excellent ballancing bettween us consumers and manufactures . Well done!
Thanks! Still curious to know what's causing it though :)
Good review video 👍.
Kudos ,, It is one of the cheapest 2TB pci gen 4 fast ssd in India right now, I was looking for some review on performance, thank god, you saved me and also many people from comments. In my past I had mixed experience, 1 still running after 4 years and 1 failed in warranty and got replaced. But changing the retail unit components is quite extreme and completely dishonest to customers. So I will also stay away from ADATA.
Hope I helped :)
Great review I'll definitely avoid this brand forever. Seems a very shady company
bad ADATA! shame shame shame . . .
I think these companies will try any tactic available in order to make as much money as possible. Cheating with review samples has been going on for as long as I've been a computer enthusiast (since the beginning of the '90s) and I don't see this changing any time soon.
Thank You!
The doubt thing is a real factor, it makes is very hard to make buying decisions. Nice catch!
I bought Aorus RGB 512GB thanks to your review. Now I'm aiming at Samsung 980 Pro 2TB.
So ADATA, no thanks.
There are two ssd variant. Both have innogrit G5236 memory controller. But one have faster Micron B47R nand flash, and other one have YMTC CDT1B nand flash. Micron one is 176 tlc nand flash while ymtc one is 128 layer nand flash.
Mine lasted 2 months, RMA unit DOA, no more ADATA for me
I'm 11 months late, but thanks very much for your video. I was looking for an NVME since I need an upgrade. And I almost bought this exact one because of the low price. Good thing I saw this so I just looked for a new one and bought a more awesome Silicon Power UD90, much cheaper too. I'm not going to sugar coat it, but ADATA is a crappy company, it is intentionally shady. It's blatant misadvertising and in alot of countries that's illegal. If they replaced it with inferior hardware then it's not the same product anymore. It's like buying a Porsche then when the person opens the hood there's a Honda engine in it.
I had lots of this ssd. It is works perfect. No heat, high speed, extremly long lifetime.
Scam-Data
I knew it when looking at the last review i was like where the F*** did this come from, yeah no was already going firecuda 530 now getting it even more
A year plus late. Techtesters, if you see this, the reason why one performs much differently is the NAND. The review sample uses Micron's 176L NAND process, whilst the retail model is YMTC's 128L NAND process, which is cheaper, but there are rumours that this NAND with that controller will cause strange bugs like firmware corruption (that have been fixed at a hardware level).
How do i know if mine is micron or ymtc? I had problem with my first s70 Blade and they send me a new one.
@@bm5945 you can use VLO NAME tools to figure out - these are not my tools, neither did I make them. Be sure to have RAID disabled in BIOS. Sorry for the late reply.
Hey
There are 3 LG ultragear monitors
GQ models
i think you should review them
They are super good
It will be a while before i trust ADATA and Kingston again, recently finished building a workstation and used Samsung and WD
IF Adata had a clean sheet then I would call it a coincidence.
Not only adata . All the premium ssd brands are doing the same thing.
Well we need a list of manufacturers that DON'T do this, if they still exist...
Better then that, what we need is a government from a major sales market to step in and require that *_ANY change in components/hardware REQUIRE a new model number!_*
FYI FOR ANYONE CONSIDERING TO BUY THIS SSD
DO NOT buy it as Adata has again changed the controller and the drive just does not last. I have had it replaced twice in 6 months and now service center has offered me an alternate drive like Legend 960 instead of S70 due to countless issues reported to them.
Adata isn't even keeping it in stock anymore here(India)
I installed in my ps5 from 8 month its working fine with speed 6500 without update
in indian retail website it says read upto 7400MB/s and write upto 5500MB/s
whats the situation now ?
Im so glad i watched this. I was about to buy their 4tb ssd for my ps5. I'll probably wait for more thrust worthy brands.
If they found an issue they shouldn't sell the old drive at full price
Great work Tts ! Maybe a review of the Kingston Fury Renegade M.2 SSD ?
Yeah adata scared me away😅
Thank you! I have been waiting for this review of yours for a long time, the truth is that the price of the SSD is the first thing that catches your attention, but with what you share with us we will be able to take a better one. 😉👌🏽
Where is the guality control? Greatest as always!
Thanks, this helped me stay clear of buying ADATA. Instead i got a WD Black.
Hope I helped :)
What is the pc case you have in your videos
Hi
I'm looking for a M.2 ssd for gaming and coding with Python and C++. So watching your videos for a While. Before 1 or 2 hours I want to buy a 980 PRO but KC3000, S70, SN850 and Spatium M480 makes me confused so i think i need a professionels help. Which one should i Buy? I will buy 1TB btw. Thanks in advance.
So which one you bought?
@@Ramattra-ow no one .D i live in turkey so i decided to wait. U know we have a high inflation rate and have are goint go have an election in march 2023. I hope something go better after elections. So im waiting
@@kaganyurtkolesi2921 strangely i'm invested in your story now. did you end up getting anything yet?
Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB was "dead' after using it for about 5 days.
New week = new video 👀
Im facing an issue with XPX S70 blade SSD . I have installed windows on it and after booting my PC is constantly getting crash in 10 sec as soon as it shows me windows lock screen. And later on my Motherboard shows me display Error. I was thinking my GPU GTX 3080 has an issue because of the lower power supply of 750W. Then I changed my GPU with the lowest TDP Gt730 but still facing the issue remains. Later on i did the research on ssd and found XPG has the worst experience in SSD market
Nice review again .
What are the best laptops for game development, video editing, and graphic design animation etc....
Cam you make a video on it🙂
Decided go for Corsair after watching your previous video… 😘😘
a-data is not good ssd. my SSD working 1.3years and broken. yes, warranty 5 years, but all my fiels was died on disk. since this encidetn only SAMSUNG
got a sx8200pnp non pro 256gb... every now and then it corrupted my windows so often that i hate it, and sometimes it just crash out of nowhere, bsod, and can't even boot into windows if i didn't perform hard restart .. saving for new ssd.. no more adata ssd for me
Excellent vid.
I'm a hobby builder and the one family/friends/co-workers comes to for builds & advice.. and I was 1 of the SX8200 buyers.. soooo, yeah.. never recommending/purchasing ANYTHING from ADATA again.. ever!
THIS SUX - i was going to buy s70. Thanks for the new review. Has Adata contacted you back concerning this issue?
I have a video idea. Its actually similar to your content now Accept the sample and buy another from the market and review the samples together the first time. Leave out reviewing the sample sent to you alone. I don't know. Hahha lol
I have ps5 sticker on my retail unit too, maybe you should buy another retail one which has ps5 sticker as it is made in Taiwan. And performance equally to the sample unit they send you. Or the retail you recieved must be a duplicate and not the original one.
MN 5236 issue, bricked and i lost all my data
Who is the winner of the last giveaway 👀
I have 2 ssd slots one is gen 3 and the other is gen 4, can someone let me know on which slot is for my os drive and on which my games?
I would put OS on Gen 4 - but that's me.
I like my OS to be running as efficient as possible.
6:24 🤷🏼 nvme it's maybe the hardest component to test. CPU and GPU are easy, but that and PSU... I guess only when the underperform, kill other components or just die along with the most precious data
It's funny, in the back of my mind, I always have ADATA as a kind of premium noname brand that I tend to avoid not considering it an actual value brand. I know this is not exactly the case but that's my first gut feeling every time I come across one of their products while looking for something. Pretty sure these kinds of shenanigans are a big factor that give me that feeling. Long story short, I don't think ADATA will ever get my business.
ture, same. But what they usually do is make partners with some repair shops for better deals, that's usually where you could find ADATA in or from originating the most.
ADATA needs to step up and explain. Either it was something that they did not know about and will investigate. Or it was noticed and the new stock has been updated... add big Ver 2 sticker to the box.
I was very tempted it's like £93 for the 2TB version atm.
hmmmmmm. This is a good video, I would be interested in seeing more testing with these drives to see what's up.
edit---
Oh, since you asked I would look at what is actually done with the consistency bench and then go through them to see if there is a specific workload that is tanking performance.
Hi, you are a true "charlies Angel" and thanks for doing this inside Detective work for us. I appreciate the new info.
I bought S70 blade 1tb last week, after knowing their scandals, now I wish I bought Samsung instead
Weird that one drive has silicone glue on the chip and the other one does not.
should not do anything for performance, but durability could be better with the glue.
Your video just made me cancel my order in time, thank you :D
Adata ever got back or clarified this discrepancy?
They need to be blacklisted by reviewers.
Taiwan has higher standards than China so there's that.
Really looking forward to your Gen 5 SSD review.
Not necessarily. I just bought a new "Made in Taiwan" 1TB variant. And it got a Refurbished PCB with "used" scratch marks and some oxidation marks on the edge connectors straight out of the box. Albeit SSD stats shows it's new. I've never expected them to get this low.
We killed Illidan a bunch, Come back soon - we miss you
lmao.. again? ADATA? really..?
Thank god i avoid this brand and choose KC3000
maybe the controler is made whit SMIC and no TSMC
Does the sticker on thee back give anything away ?
early!!!
Can you make a. Video on how ak620 is better than aio
They pulled a SanDisk then 👀
Thank you for the investigation and testing!
Thank you for this update!
had no idea about any of the component switching they did.. I was looking at getting a bigger RAM kit and faster m.2 since I just upgraded other hardware and was looking at getting ADATA again because the external storage drive and RAM kit I got of theirs years ago has performed well without dipping so I wanted to add more but the kit I have was removed from shelves a few months ago so I was looking for a kit from them that's similar but hearing about the shadiness is putting me off
Many brands do this and it’s not sinister per se. But without clear disclosure and information you don’t know what you’re buying. So as reviewers we just have to speak out, even if most will likely be completely fine and/or decent buys.
I've gotten 3 of these so far. 2 were good, but the latest one I stuck in my TrueNAS build as L2ARC gave me tons of checksum and read/write errors. Ended up having to return it as defective.
Is it me or ADATA is suppose to be dead for any respectable tech person after they did something like this even once? We cant forgive this shit... dont tell me I need to explain where absence of punishment leads, dont tell me we dont have enough examples of this in and around PC\Tech.
Didn't expect else from Adata. Major red flag since their first bs.
Good work keep it up.
Thanks
Thanks for review, defiantly wont be buying this now
Hope it helped!
Good good. So np.
Maybe it's a specific component on that older batch that's affecting the consistency test. It would be great to test a couple more but from different batches.
Become a subscriber in their patron, then they can.
Nice Ruglish 😉
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Klevv C920
I have one of the original 8200 drives you mentioned. Mine was a fast version and I am still happy with it. However after learning about the bait and switch I stick with brands that manufacturer memory like Samsung, intel, sandisk and crucial. My next storage drive will be a intel 670 just for game storage on my PC
Kingston???
well even Samsung is having extreme problems with ssds like 980 pro so its hit or miss with ssds
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