These are some great tips for any small wood burning stove! The first time I ever used my wood burning stove in my canvas tent, I had no idea how the updraft worked. So I ended up getting up around 2am to light a fire for the first time, and I threw a log directly in, lit it, and got back in bed. About 5 minutes later the whole tent was filled with smoke because the chimney was cold and the updraft wasn't working. Later when I got home, I did some research and learned how to start a proper updraft. VERY IMPORTANT 😅
Great advice thanks. I definitely want to get a G stove and will not make the mistake again of melting my hiking shoes after a 6 day tramp having to walk out down a rocky mountain in bare feet !
Once you get that going, and have the stove loaded up, how long can you go in number of hours, before you have to go into it and add more fuel? What's a typical number of hours you could go before having to refill similar models? It seems like the smaller the stove cavity, the less sleep you'd get, having to get up and check it? I've been wondering also if its possible to get one of these, but not have much smoke in the tent? I don't react well to smoke. But I see the need for this kind of equipment.
Learn more about how a tent stove works at www.canvascamp.com/en_us/tent-stove-buyers-guide Never leave a fire unattended. If you are unconscious, your fire is unattended. Generally speaking most tent stoves will require some level of user input every 30-60 minutes. A well insulated fire brick lined stove with excellent air intake systems (like an Orland Tent Stove) would burn more efficiently. My giant cast iron wood stove and stone hearth in my house throws heat for 4 hours. Giant tent stoves are typically compensating for inefficiency with fuel volume. Just because you can physically fit six large logs in a stove does not mean you should. Overfiring a stove is dangerous. Sleep is one of body's most critical regenerative processes. Sleep is particularly important while camping because generally the energy output required to meet your most basic needs in the wilderness is significantly higher than what you're accustomed to at home. Get a good sleeping bag and a good night's rest. Start a fire in the morning. If keeping your fire going is critical to your health or safety - you are in a survival situation and your priorities should reflect that. Burn time is highly dependant on the components in your fire formula: fuel, oxygen, energy, waste. Generally dense hardwoods burn longer, softwoods burn faster. Oxygen rich fires burn faster. Even the shape of your logs and how you arrange them effects burn time. Experiment to figure out what works best for your unique environment. The beauty of fire is that it's never really mastered, just temporarily manipulated to serve a purpose. You should not have any noticeable smoke in your tent if your stove is operating properly and you're burning good dry wood. Learn more about troubleshooting common tent stove mistakes here: www.canvascamp.com/en_us/blog/tent-stove-buyers-guide/tent-stove-mistakes
I used my first tent stove 2 weeks ago. The main problem i has was the flames going out whenever I closed the stove door. I even has the the door air vent all the way open but the flames still died out when I closed the door. I had to keep the stove door open to establish a self sustaining fire. Any ideas of what the problem was? Is it possible i had the stove over stuffed?
Could be a lot of things going on here depending on your stove type and set up. Make sure: - flue pipe is clean and clear - flue pipe damper is fully open - Air intake is clear of debris - use dry seasoned wood - establish your fire with kindling prior to adding larger pieces of wood - Confirm that your flue pipe is drafting properly. Light a few piece of news paper toss them in the back of your stove under your flue pipe exit point. You want to warm up your flue pipe to the point that the air in flue pipe is warmer than the ambient temperature in your tent. Smoke should be drawing up through the flue pipe. If it isn't, try removing a section of flue pipe and trying again. - Always have a Carbon Monoxide Detector on hand. If you don't have enough oxygen in your tent to support combustion, there is an increased risk of CO poisoning. Crack open a window to allow outside air in to troubleshoot.
Insufficient draft or too large a fire for the available draft ? Could be the quality of the wood, species, dry/damp, etc. . Try splitting your wood into smaller pieces. Or Insufficient diameter or height of flue pipe.
You need a heatshield. This is an incorrect setup and extremely dangerous. A triple walled heatshield that fits in the silicone flashing prevents extreme temperatures
Is there any problem with running the pipe out the wall of a tent instead of the roof? I've seen some do it, but I read some say it interferes with the draft
We actually prefer running the pipe out the wall over out the roof (takes up a lot less space inside the tent). Draft; can cause a problem when using small portable stoves, but works just fine with everystove pipe over 3inch. Cheers, CanvasCamp
Looking at buying a few of these for our Safari camp. We use 5m bells and are based in South Africa. Just want to know if these do make a significant difference to the inside temperature, if they make the tent smell like smoke and when using the tent during the rain with a hole in it what the impact is and what does one do to prevent leaks?
- Just want to know if these do make a significant difference to the inside temperature Absolutely. Easily 20 degrees celcius above the outside temperature. - if they make the tent smell like smoke Not at all due to the draft. - and when using the tent during the rain with a hole in it what the impact is and what does one do to prevent leaks? When stove is fitted you've got a ferfect waterproof seal with rubber jack. When the stove isn't fitted simply use a plastic cup upside down for a perfect seal. Cheers, CanvasCamp
There are a lot of variables involved but short answer is yes. Generally speaking all of our tent stoves produce plenty of heat to warm large tents. The tent industry has unfortunately tied itself to describing tents by the number of bodies that can be packed head to toe on the floor, which isn't a good measure of the size of a tent. Our recommended tent for 10 people to camp on sleeping pads comfortably is the Sibley 600 (bit.ly/3zei8fE) which is 300 square feet. Most tent companies with "10 man tents" are less than half that size - and would be uncomfortable (and possibly unsafe) to put more than 2-3 people in with a tent stove. "Warm" is also subjective and highly influenced by both personal preference and humidity. A tent stove is definitely going to keep you significantly warmer than the outside ambient temperature. If it's 0 degrees F outside and you are camping in Minnesota, you're not likely to achieve what most people would consider t-shirt & shorts weather inside a 300+ square foot tent, but you can probably get to a comfortable sweater weather. As a general rule if you are cold weather camping a tent stove is going to keep you cozy.
me and a friend of mine was just camping in a Helsport lavvo 8-10 people with a G stove. if you want som room i do not recomend more than half 4-5 people when having a stove. outside temperature we had was about 4 feet of snow, and temps between -3 celsius all the way to -20 celsius. one night we had -10 and full storm blowing. inside we had +20/+25 degrees celsius. it was super nice. only issue was the snow slowly melting under the stove and therefor we had correct it a couple times a day so it didnt become to crocked. we wedged some split wood around the feets. we only had some draft issues the last night (number 5). and the next when packing we saw that there was alot of build up inside the pipes. so next time we will be sure to nock on the pipe every day to loosen it and then rake it out of the stove before igniting it.
Winnerwell is much better than gstove, also ALL tents should have the stove and jack in the CENTER.. Not on the side this is ultimate for even heat happy camping!
Golden Gildo I never heard of the Winnerwell before. For the price I would have gone with it. It looks pretty promising. I love the gstove but it’s $$. I have an ammo can stove that works pretty good. I made a video on my channel with my makeshift hot tent.
@@camp-kot7315 they are excellent for the money I also own a titanium flat pack stove from Seek Outside they are freaking unbelievable light, flat, compact, very functional just have to be careful with the material.
Also I have made some awesome stoves one from an empty 20lb propane bottle, 5gallon paint thinner bucket metal of course also made a 1 gallon tin can stove it's almost like an ammo can but its ultralight and the chimney is some beer bottles;) works really good but it's only for a lavvu or maybe a hunting blind lol
Golden Gildo me too there great for portable situations. If you don’t have transportation limitations, then the efficiency of these fixed stoves are better of course. The Seek fits in a backpack though 😊❤️🇺🇸☃️❄️🛷⛺️
Thanks for your input! Although center-placed stoves do provide maximum heat transfer from the flue pipe, we believe that stove placement is dependent on stove type, environment, and application -- which is different for everyone.
@@banshee107 excellent this is the best method. You will be very pleased I promise I also have a 5m BT with a medium sized winnerwell stove perfect combo! Happy camping brother
banshee107 try a thermoelectric fan that sits on top of the stove and uses the hot/cool air dynamic to create electricity to blow the warm air across the tent
These are some great tips for any small wood burning stove!
The first time I ever used my wood burning stove in my canvas tent, I had no idea how the updraft worked. So I ended up getting up around 2am to light a fire for the first time, and I threw a log directly in, lit it, and got back in bed. About 5 minutes later the whole tent was filled with smoke because the chimney was cold and the updraft wasn't working. Later when I got home, I did some research and learned how to start a proper updraft. VERY IMPORTANT 😅
I love watching this person talk 😍 she keeps it real, doing serious camping!
Oh thank God, I was looking for a wood saw that also works on bones, thanks 😊
Wow! Thank you! I would have never thought of moving the side racks to get a lower temperature. Wow! Thank you so much!
You're welcome! I'm glad you found the tip helpful. If you have any more questions or need further advice, feel free to reach out. Happy camping!
I just ordered a tent and stove jack from your web site because of your videos, thank you for all the great information.
Hope you enjoy it!
Great advice thanks. I definitely want to get a G stove and will not make the mistake again of melting my hiking shoes after a 6 day tramp having to walk out down a rocky mountain in bare feet !
That’s goals right there.
🔥 extinguisher is my main takeaway
Great.
Once you get that going, and have the stove loaded up, how long can you go in number of hours, before you have to go into it and add more fuel? What's a typical number of hours you could go before having to refill similar models?
It seems like the smaller the stove cavity, the less sleep you'd get, having to get up and check it?
I've been wondering also if its possible to get one of these, but not have much smoke in the tent? I don't react well to smoke. But I see the need for this kind of equipment.
Learn more about how a tent stove works at www.canvascamp.com/en_us/tent-stove-buyers-guide
Never leave a fire unattended. If you are unconscious, your fire is unattended. Generally speaking most tent stoves will require some level of user input every 30-60 minutes. A well insulated fire brick lined stove with excellent air intake systems (like an Orland Tent Stove) would burn more efficiently. My giant cast iron wood stove and stone hearth in my house throws heat for 4 hours.
Giant tent stoves are typically compensating for inefficiency with fuel volume. Just because you can physically fit six large logs in a stove does not mean you should. Overfiring a stove is dangerous.
Sleep is one of body's most critical regenerative processes. Sleep is particularly important while camping because generally the energy output required to meet your most basic needs in the wilderness is significantly higher than what you're accustomed to at home. Get a good sleeping bag and a good night's rest. Start a fire in the morning.
If keeping your fire going is critical to your health or safety - you are in a survival situation and your priorities should reflect that.
Burn time is highly dependant on the components in your fire formula: fuel, oxygen, energy, waste. Generally dense hardwoods burn longer, softwoods burn faster. Oxygen rich fires burn faster. Even the shape of your logs and how you arrange them effects burn time. Experiment to figure out what works best for your unique environment. The beauty of fire is that it's never really mastered, just temporarily manipulated to serve a purpose.
You should not have any noticeable smoke in your tent if your stove is operating properly and you're burning good dry wood. Learn more about troubleshooting common tent stove mistakes here: www.canvascamp.com/en_us/blog/tent-stove-buyers-guide/tent-stove-mistakes
I used my first tent stove 2 weeks ago. The main problem i has was the flames going out whenever I closed the stove door. I even has the the door air vent all the way open but the flames still died out when I closed the door. I had to keep the stove door open to establish a self sustaining fire. Any ideas of what the problem was? Is it possible i had the stove over stuffed?
Could be a lot of things going on here depending on your stove type and set up.
Make sure:
- flue pipe is clean and clear
- flue pipe damper is fully open
- Air intake is clear of debris
- use dry seasoned wood
- establish your fire with kindling prior to adding larger pieces of wood
- Confirm that your flue pipe is drafting properly. Light a few piece of news paper toss them in the back of your stove under your flue pipe exit point. You want to warm up your flue pipe to the point that the air in flue pipe is warmer than the ambient temperature in your tent. Smoke should be drawing up through the flue pipe. If it isn't, try removing a section of flue pipe and trying again.
- Always have a Carbon Monoxide Detector on hand. If you don't have enough oxygen in your tent to support combustion, there is an increased risk of CO poisoning. Crack open a window to allow outside air in to troubleshoot.
Insufficient draft or too large a fire for the available draft ?
Could be the quality of the wood, species, dry/damp, etc. .
Try splitting your wood into smaller pieces.
Or Insufficient diameter or height of flue pipe.
I used that very same rubber stove jack you have there and my gstove not only melted the rubber the rubber was soldering???
You need a heatshield. This is an incorrect setup and extremely dangerous. A triple walled heatshield that fits in the silicone flashing prevents extreme temperatures
It's a maul I have the exact same one
Ok not sticking a skillet in my 300 dollar sleeping bag. Good idea on using the side racks to simmer though.
Can u put one of theses in a real fire place
Super!
Straight up, when doomsday comes, I'm getting a Gangsta-Stove too and headed someplace cold with oysters where nobody is ever gonna go to pillage.
Better get it now rather than later. Key is BEFORE it comes. Lol. As always, stay in the woods 🌲👣
It’s time...
Please do a podcast or something, you have such a relaxing voice to listen to :)
Great idea! Thank you!
“Angle of attack”, makes me wonder if your also a pilot. Not a phrase you hear too often. 👍🏻
Funny! I use to work in private aviation :) I must have picked up a thing or two in ground school.
Is there any problem with running the pipe out the wall of a tent instead of the roof? I've seen some do it, but I read some say it interferes with the draft
We actually prefer running the pipe out the wall over out the roof (takes up a lot less space inside the tent).
Draft; can cause a problem when using small portable stoves, but works just fine with everystove pipe over 3inch.
Cheers, CanvasCamp
Elbows restrict draft over a comparable length a straight piece of pipe, just a fact !
The longer the flue pipe inside the tent the usable heat you can extract from the fuel.
Do you use a carbon dioxide alarm in your tent while using the wood stove?
We always advise doing so. And making sure you've got some ventilation.
Does your tent come with opening to fit the pipe or did you create that open in the tent?
Exit Modular Stove Jack DIY installed: www.canvascamp.com/en_us/how-to-install-tent-stove-jack
I hope your sore throat is better...
Looking at buying a few of these for our Safari camp. We use 5m bells and are based in South Africa. Just want to know if these do make a significant difference to the inside temperature, if they make the tent smell like smoke and when using the tent during the rain with a hole in it what the impact is and what does one do to prevent leaks?
- Just want to know if these do make a significant difference to the inside temperature
Absolutely. Easily 20 degrees celcius above the outside temperature.
- if they make the tent smell like smoke
Not at all due to the draft.
- and when using the tent during the rain with a hole in it what the impact is and what does one do to prevent leaks?
When stove is fitted you've got a ferfect waterproof seal with rubber jack. When the stove isn't fitted simply use a plastic cup upside down for a perfect seal.
Cheers, CanvasCamp
@@CanvascampHeadOffice thanks so much for the feedback! Much appreciated
Your questions make me think you need a guide and care takers on your trip, wtf, are you sure you’re not American,
Oh wow, its actually in English
will this keep a family warm in a large 10 like a 10 person tent?
It most likely would
There are a lot of variables involved but short answer is yes.
Generally speaking all of our tent stoves produce plenty of heat to warm large tents. The tent industry has unfortunately tied itself to describing tents by the number of bodies that can be packed head to toe on the floor, which isn't a good measure of the size of a tent. Our recommended tent for 10 people to camp on sleeping pads comfortably is the Sibley 600 (bit.ly/3zei8fE) which is 300 square feet. Most tent companies with "10 man tents" are less than half that size - and would be uncomfortable (and possibly unsafe) to put more than 2-3 people in with a tent stove.
"Warm" is also subjective and highly influenced by both personal preference and humidity. A tent stove is definitely going to keep you significantly warmer than the outside ambient temperature. If it's 0 degrees F outside and you are camping in Minnesota, you're not likely to achieve what most people would consider t-shirt & shorts weather inside a 300+ square foot tent, but you can probably get to a comfortable sweater weather.
As a general rule if you are cold weather camping a tent stove is going to keep you cozy.
me and a friend of mine was just camping in a Helsport lavvo 8-10 people with a G stove. if you want som room i do not recomend more than half 4-5 people when having a stove. outside temperature we had was about 4 feet of snow, and temps between -3 celsius all the way to -20 celsius. one night we had -10 and full storm blowing. inside we had +20/+25 degrees celsius. it was super nice. only issue was the snow slowly melting under the stove and therefor we had correct it a couple times a day so it didnt become to crocked. we wedged some split wood around the feets. we only had some draft issues the last night (number 5). and the next when packing we saw that there was alot of build up inside the pipes. so next time we will be sure to nock on the pipe every day to loosen it and then rake it out of the stove before igniting it.
isn't having a fire in your tent dangerous?
Winnerwell is much better than gstove, also ALL tents should have the stove and jack in the CENTER.. Not on the side this is ultimate for even heat happy camping!
Golden Gildo I never heard of the Winnerwell before. For the price I would have gone with it. It looks pretty promising. I love the gstove but it’s $$. I have an ammo can stove that works pretty good. I made a video on my channel with my makeshift hot tent.
@@camp-kot7315 they are excellent for the money I also own a titanium flat pack stove from Seek Outside they are freaking unbelievable light, flat, compact, very functional just have to be careful with the material.
Also I have made some awesome stoves one from an empty 20lb propane bottle, 5gallon paint thinner bucket metal of course also made a 1 gallon tin can stove it's almost like an ammo can but its ultralight and the chimney is some beer bottles;) works really good but it's only for a lavvu or maybe a hunting blind lol
Golden Gildo me too there great for portable situations. If you don’t have transportation limitations, then the efficiency of these fixed stoves are better of course. The Seek fits in a backpack though 😊❤️🇺🇸☃️❄️🛷⛺️
Thanks for your input! Although center-placed stoves do provide maximum heat transfer from the flue pipe, we believe that stove placement is dependent on stove type, environment, and application -- which is different for everyone.
What size is your bell tent? I find my Gstove is too small for my 5m BT.
Is your stove on the side of shelter? Like in this video. That might be your biggest problem
Golden Gildo yeah it’s a side exit, I just got a stove jack and going to vent it through the roof much like you did.
@@banshee107 excellent this is the best method. You will be very pleased I promise I also have a 5m BT with a medium sized winnerwell stove perfect combo! Happy camping brother
Golden Gildo I appreciate the info. I’ll update once I sew in the new roof jack. Cheers
banshee107 try a thermoelectric fan that sits on top of the stove and uses the hot/cool air dynamic to create electricity to blow the warm air across the tent
What tent are you.in?
Sibley 450 ProTech (www.canvascamp.com/en_us/sibley-450-protech)
@@CanvascampHeadOffice what's the brand on that cool splitter? axes suck for splitting
@@CanvascampHeadOffice Had the same question about the splitter，looks sharp and good. Btw all the video clips are very useful👍👍👍