Every Mythical Inaccuracy in Thor: The Dark World & Age of Ultron
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What should the next Every Inaccuracy video be?
Moon knight
Maybe Scooby-Doo ? They have many villain's that are myth based
Class of the titans (2005)
I'd kill for an coverage of Jason and the Argonauts (both the 1963 movie and the 2000 miniseries) and the Visceral Game's Dante's Inferno + the animated movie
also when you cover Infinity War as an addition to covering Thor Ragnarok, are you gonna count inaccuracies to Thantos? because incase you don't know, Stan Lee did based Thanos off of Thanatos alot, sure it'd be a little strange since those two are still different characters but I think it could work (such as Thanos holding stuff that Thanatos does not, or Thanos in universe being called an Titan even though Thanatos is not)
Gods of Egypt
My MCU Headcannon is during norse times, some Asgardian got drunk off his ass on earth and tried (highly inaccurately, due to a mix of not knowing all of Asgardian history and trying to make the story impressive) to tell stories of his people in ways the locals would understand, which is something I would kill to see
That's not too far off from MCU canon. The movies are pretty explicit about their use of the ancient astronaut hypothesis to explain the existence of the Aesir in what was at the time an otherwise sci-fi setting.
Your MCU headcanon is stupid, because there is no in-universe explanation for whether the myths that supposedly exist in the MCU are like the same ones we have here.
@@antona.8659 that's almost like it's the point of the video. Also don't say a head cannon is stupid it's called a HEAD cannon not cannon
Makes the most sense too me...heck I would belive it if it was simply Loki messing with the humans because he was bored one afternoon and fore a few years this became his favrite pasttime, go down to Midgard, sit in a bar with a good drink and just tell ludicrous made up storys that the gullable humans belived
@@LightMoon7890 ah, it's fine. Poor bastard probably can't voice his opinions in real life like he can here, let him have it
I always felt sorry for Loki (Norse accurate Loki) because he’s the god of mischief and all those things he did was just him doing his job but if you think him killing Baldur was not part of the job then that’s fine by me, I don’t think it was part of the job at all.
Killing the immortal god is definitely what I call mischief lol
But he had a Prophecy to fulfill. So it was out of his hands
He's not the god of mischief at all. We don't actually know what he was god of, due to mistranslations done on purpose by roman and later catholic explorers who were very intent of depicting Loki as the devil (the Romans having the habit of assuming all foreign gods were just their own gods that other people got wrong).
One theory proposed by OverlySarcasticProductions I really like was that Loki was the Protector of Hearth and Family, and a guardian of children.
One option Odin never explored to try to prevent Ragnarok is by having the dwarves construct the Infinity Gauntlet so we can Thanos snap Loki to dust, the MCU could be the key to preventing the end of the world and I'm sure Heimdall actually knows about Marvel.
@@smb-c3poum... Ragnarok happened before current history according to Norse myth. Before the age of man, there was the age of the gods, ended by Ragnarok. So it has already passed.
If we assume Ragnarok was actually Norse Myth and not some overzealous Christian monk detailing a myth that didn't exist in which all Norse gods die except Baldur who is ressurected after Ragnarok to be Jesus.
The mythology guy is teaching me so much. He has taught me that there where no elevators in Ancient Greece, Thor did not join a team of super heroes in Norse mythology, there are no implosion grenades,and he taught me that the ancient Norse myths did not have performance enhancing drugs, I mean curses, I mean… no, drugs.
18:23: fun fact, a deleted scene of age of Ultron actually has Thor and Selvig saying these water spirits are indeed the Norns. Thor is even possessed by them as a way to tell Ultron’s endgame to Selvig.
It was probably cut to simplify the narrative, Thor’s dream side quest was already kind’ve out of nowhere.
Fun fact: nobody cares. The MCU should delete itself from existence.
@@antona.8659 I care
@@antona.8659fun fact: i find it quite neat
@@antona.8659 why?
@@ImNotGoodAtAnimation no, it isn't.
12:14 Mimir: "Brother, have I ever told you about the time that I promised Odin unparallelled wisdom and knowledge in trade for his eye? Well, he didn't like it very much that I joked around and he actually pulled his eye out and gave it to me. Odin's rage knew no bounds and decided to trap me inside a tree on the highest mountain in Midgard with my other Bifrost eye missing,"
The funny thing is that that’s basically what happened according to Mimir. There’s a boat convo where Mimir explains that he simply laced the water of his well with “enough magic mushrooms to make even a god see visions.” “Not sure what possessed him to pluck out his own eye though.” 😂
@@cabsmih7897 Yeah I remembered that, that's why it was so funny to me when the Mythology guy said that Mimir ripped Odin off😂 God I love God of War😂
7:05 Actually that stone giant is from the same race of aliens as Korg. In the Planet hulk comics when Korg meets Hulk he tells him about how he and his brother fought Thor once before but were beaten. If they're following the comics, that would mean Thor just killed Korgs big brother. No one tell Korg.
this is everything innacurate. not connect the dots marvel edition
Also, Korg’s race the Kronans were the first set of enemies Thor fought in the comics.
The Aesir restoring order in Vanaheim is especially funny considering they literally WENT TO WAR, which not only ended on rather bitter terms from what my research has shown, but also implies they have similar power levels and are able to go head-to-head
Fun fact: Frigga being Thor's mother is not accurate to the comics either (assuming Thor is, in fact, describing her as his birth mother). In the comics, Thor's mother is, actually, the Earth goddess... Gaia.
You were so close, Stan.
Thor's mother in norse mythology was a giantess named Jord ( pronounced yord) and Gaia is part of greek mythology where does it say the Gaia was part of norse mythology?
So the comics are also inaccurate.
@@glitchstorm2057 Yes, the comics remembered Thor's mom was supposed to be the Earth goddess, but they used the name of wrong the Earth goddess.
Doesn’t that technically make him a Uncle to all the first 6 Olympian’s?
It's not a fun fact to mention how superior the comics are to these movies, pal. Frigga was never said to be Thor's mother in the early comics. She was merely the wife of Odin. In the 70s we learnt that JORD (one of that deity's many names) spent the night with Odin and birthed him a son, whom Odin then brought to Asgard and had Friga raise him as her own. And Stan Lee had nothing to do with it. He created those characters, but their backstories were elaborated on by other writers.
6:09 ok, this is just my own little hypothesis...
Frigg was called "Frigga" here might be the movie writers trying to fuse Frigg with Freya, due to the fact that there are very plausible theories that suggested Frigg and Freya to be the same goddess in Norse Mythology.
A good possibility... but it would have been the comic book writers (back in the 60's) who combined Frigg with Freya, not the movie writers.
I own a copy of the 75th Anniversary Edition of the book "Mythology" by Edith Hamilton which features a section on the Norse gods. In it, Frigg is referred to as Frigga and Hel (the goddess) is referred to as Hela. That book was published in 1942 and the Thor series by Marvel began in 1962 so it's entirely possible that the architects of Marvels take on Norse mythology were primarily drawing research from that book.
I am pretty sure that the rock giant that was reduced to a pile of rubble was originally supposed to be Korg, but since they never said so outright they went ahead and used a different version of Korg in the next movie.
Damn, so we could've been spared of Taika Waitit's godawful self-insersion? Well... He'd probably find another character to insert himself in and make everything insufferable, so it's a no-win situation.
Well I liked Ragnarök but am not willing to see Love and Thunder.
@The4Headed_Dragon That could be Korg's mother's boyfriend, whom he hates
Ria is one of the worlds in the MCU that isn't one of the move realms, just a world Asgard helped and protected
10:10 Odin is so shocked after finding out that if he stops eating the apples, he can become mortal and regained sight in his right eye 😂
The coat hanger held up Mjölnir, does that mean it's worthy (in the context of the MCU)?
That is not how the worthyness works in MCU, If that was the case it would sink to the Center of the planet
The unsung hero of the MCU
@@TheMythologyGuy1 technically, none of the MCU heros are sung because none of their songs have lyrics, except for Spider-Man's, though the MCU version didn't have them for some reason.
But yes.
It just means that it's not nearly as heavy as most people seem to think.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters54 Iron Man...
Having Hymdal have 9 mothers seems like something Love and Thunder would have as a plot point where his son would maybe be constantly pestered by his 9 grandmas as a comedic side story among the already comedic plot
For that to happen, Taika Waititi would have to pick up a comic-book. Which, as we know, he won't do cuz that's too much research for him.
Dude you are so close to 1 mil and still you're underrated. Ive been a fan for a while and can't describe how much i love greek mythology.
Now exceeding a million!
@@jeffreygao3956 we did it
The version I grew up with said that Loki was tied to a tree, and the snake's fangs dripped venom into his eyes (non-specific, no mention of it being corrosive).
His wife Sigyn held a bowl above his head to prevent the venom from reaching his eyes. Whenever the bowl filled and she moved to empty it, Sigyn would spill a few drops into Loki's eyes, causing him immense pain, and he would writhe with such force that he caused earthquakes (which certainly fits better with him being tied to rock like you mentioned in the video).
I bet quite a few versions of this story exists. ...as often tends to be the case :)
"Dark Elves are supposed to be blacker than ink"
Oh boy, I wonder if he knows about Heimdallr...
lmao
He said it in the first movie.
"Wherever you go there's war, ruin and death"
Said the literal Norse God of War and Death
They're not gods. They're aliens, mate.
Odin was none of those things. So, incorrect use of "literal". He did do a fair amount of warring and destruction (most Norse gods did, they liked battle), but he wasn't a god of those things.
@@pacmonster066 it's in the first paragraph of his wikipedia article. He's not the only one with those titles tho, Thor and (mainly) Tyr are also Gods of War
@@mdsystems4463 If you're referring to this sentence from the Wikipedia article,
"associates him with wisdom, healing, death, royalty, the gallows, knowledge, war, battle, victory, sorcery, poetry, frenzy, and the runic alphabet, and depicts him as the husband of the goddess Frigg"
Then first off, it says, " *associates* him with", not "is the god of". Odin does a lot of stuff in Norse mythology.
Secondly, Wikipedia is not the place to go to for this kind of thing. That first paragraph is just a loose summary of things Odin is known for, not a specific description of his godly authority. Norse gods in general didn't really work the same way as Greek or Roman gods which represented very specific things in nature.
@@pacmonster066 so you're gonna pull the "Umm, actually, wikipedia is not a faithful source ☝️🤓" card on me. Tbh, I don't remember why he was a God of War specifically but he was definitely a God of Death, half of the people that died fighting (the ones that died protecting their homelands) would be taken by Freyja to Sessrúmnir while the other half (the ones that died attacking other lands) would be taken by Odin to Valhalla. It's one of the reasons why his signature animals are ravens, carrion birds also associated with Death
The stone giant is a reference to Thor's debut comic book Journey into Mystery where Thor fought with "Stone Men from Saturn" years later retconned in Marvel Comics to be an alien race called Kronan.
So happy to tune in for a new mythology guy video! Huge fan man. A poor one,but a huge one! Soon as I'm back on track I can't wait to support through patreon,I'll be thinking of a suggestion while watching. Wish you well man
Was amazed that during the ”wall of asgard”-scene, you did not mention giants work horse, AKA father of Sleipnir, helping by bringing the rocks.
I'm really happy because you aka one of my favorite RUclipsrs uploaded my favorite of your series on my birthday!
Happy birthday!
@@TheMythologyGuy1 Oh my God thank you it's an honor to even be acknowledged!!
In case I miss it congrats on 1 million subs! It's been a blast seeing your channel grow over the years.
Also, I would like to add that goats would be perfectly acceptable at a banquet table. Thor ate his goats all the time! XD
Just made them resciciutate and regrow the flesh!
Love your content keep up the great work
Yes! I'm so glad you continued with the MCU Thor films
Now this is worth waiting for!
PS Aha! I knew it! Trolls in Hilda are totally Dark Elves in Norse mythology!
PPS Odin might have his all seeing eye and just deliberately ignore it. He’s wise yes, but also selfish and hypocritical. It sure didn’t prevent him from becoming wolf chow at Ragnarök.
4:05 it's really interesting you said that. I love the obscurity in the actual mythology concerning elves and dwarves. Very old sources even say that these talented builder elves WERE the Dwarves, and retellings after that time eventually either gave up on the Dark Elf narrative or made them entirely separate creatures from the Dwarves.
Mythological Odin has been trying numerous different options to prevent Ragnarok throughout each new time cycke, but one he never even thought to explore is having the dwarves create the Infinity Gauntlet from Marvel and we could use it to Thanos snap mythological Loki out of existence.
Mythological Heimdall watches over Earth from the Bifrost, he has to have learned about Marvel and could teach Odin about it.
I get that this movie isn’t as good as most other movies, but I’m glad someone’s taking it seriously
Aether does exist in Norse mythology though it's implied to be the surrounding nothingness around yggdrasil and sometimes the venom of the one serpent dripping as a punishment on that one guy after Ragnarok. I assume the I'm the better pilot is a reference to the fact a Norseman had to sit out during nautical warfare to manually pilot the vessel unless every other crewman died referred to as pilot
Yessssssssss! Upload and you are close to a million.
Considering that the Aether is actually just the reality infinity stone it's logical it does not exist in the myths as it's a Marvel creation. There is no conformation or myth that 7 corner stones of the universe exist.
I’ve been waiting for this for so long
Love this video. Hopefully no copyright BS happens to this series now that you're tackling Marvel!
Ordin "We arent gods, we can die too"
Also Odin "MoRTalS DoNT BeLONg"
Man looking back at this movie makes me appreciate God of War Ragnarok so much more
So a movie based on a comic book series based on an ancient mythology, we hardly have any written stories about, is bad to you.
But a OC character as a Greek god, somehow ends up in the Norse mythology, that you find good
@@Geraldo_Rivian I'm talking about in terms of accuracy. But, Thor 2 was not a great movie in my opinion, whole GoW Ragnarok had a fantastic story
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Cant wait for him to get to love and thunder and hear how love and thunder got zeus mythically correct. Like seriously love and thunder Zeus is right out of the pages of Greek mythology.
meh, kinda (from my knowledge)
If you thought Dumb and Thunder got anything accurate, you should not talk about any subject that's more complex than the back of a milkpack.
@@antona.8659 trust me. Zeus is indeed a fuckboy. Man will fuck anything with a hole.
@@antona.8659 dude. you clearly don’t know how horny zeus can be.
so close to 1 million. keep it up mythology guy
There's so much in the myths... I don't get why more movies aren't a little more accurate. Hel, why don't we have movies about these myths? Just go through a mythology for the next cinematic universe. It would be so interesting if they actually stuck to any of it.
Not really dissing on the films themselves here, but the myths sound so much cooler than these movies give credit.
Because the movies are an adaptation of Marvel comics which is a weird sci fi reimagining of the norse myths.
I think Odin knows that Loki is taking his place and know all his plans, he can also see his death and rebirth in the future and perhaps their brothers reunion that makes Asgard stronger then ever, he even told Thor "Home is where you make it" he knew Asgard would be blown up together with Hella. But Yeah some things dont make sense like the Svartalverna och jättarna (Jotun)
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I am a really huge fan of you and would love to see an inaccuracy of Thor Ragnarok!!!!!!
It shall happen! You have my word
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Are you sure they're not just mispronouncing "eitr" and not saying "aether"? Eitr was the primordial liquid that formed Ymir, also crazy god-killing venom, which happened to also be used by the world serpent. It fits. Better, anyway.
That seems the most plausible. Imagine being Disney and making a movie about Norse gods only to mess up and mispronounce Norse words so bad people think you're talking about Greek mythology. It's the Hercules movie on steroids (calling Heracles by his roman name in a Greek based retelling of the myth).
No, I'm sure they're not.
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Thank you!
I know it’s gonna be really difficult to find any inaccuracies with this request but could you make a video on Hades? This is truly an amazing game and I’m curious if there even are any inaccuracies in it.
There is a bit actually, which are covored by using the old "the humans got the stories wrong" trick.
That being said, that game rules, and I would like a review too
This was another great video with Thor I can't wait for the next one with Thor.
I actually know the reason it's Frigga instead of Frigg in this movie, and it's really, really simple!
Modern historians simply like putting the -a suffix at the end of her name to feminize it. That's it. They just like giving her a more "female-sounding" name.
At first I thought it might have been a Hel/Hella situation, where they call her Hella in the third Thor movie, where Hella is her Germanic name as opposed to Norse, but no. Just a bunch of dudes decided Frigg wasn't girlie enough and added the a to the end of it.
Which falls flat since there are obviously masculine names that end with ‘a’ like Mustafa and Attila.
Scriptwriter: "And all the 9... or eleven realms how ever you like it, fall into another and you see all inhabitants in a chaotic-"
Producer: "Lower budget."
"Two realms fall into another and..."
6:16 Frigga is actually one of her names in German, supposedly taken from her south-germanic name.
But they’re not in Germany now are they?
@@Void-a7k It's still a valid way of referring to her.
5:17 when Odin says this, he means how in the MCU the Asgard Ian’s are just long lasting extraterrestrials(aliens), and were only perceived as gods by the Norse.
It wouldn't totally be out of the picture for Norse and Asian people to meet seeing as the Varangian Guard (Byzantine Emperor's royal guard) was mostly Vikingrs and Saxons. And Constantinople was located where Istanbul is today.
For all we know a Vikingr could have taught a Samurai about the Norse Gods and he converted faiths 🤷🏼♂️
That’s a good point
There was also some intermingling between the Vikings and Huns. Brunhilda is said to be the decent of Atilla.
@@The4Headed_Dragon Despite my hypothesis of Attila being Proto-Siberian, historical documents apparently describe him as “sallow skinned” so an East Asian look is probably the best fit.
Hey mythology guy big fan of the channel but I have noticed some inaccurate information regarding norse mythology
1.beings like frost,fire,earth, mountain and stone giants don't actually exist in norse mythology instead there's just called jotnar and are just regular sized people most of them are anyways however terms like frost giant is used but it refers to the environment they live in
2. Thor does not need his belt to lift his hammer that is a common misconception and I know this because in the prose edda it mentions that when Thor attacked skymir he picked up the hammer then buckles on the belt
3. Dark elves and dwarves are the same beings
4. The 9 realms are way more complicated and there is no list of them in norse sources there is a good video about the subject by a RUclipsr called overly sarcastic productions
5. In your god of war 3 video you said loki has fire hair but thats not true
6. In your video about the first Thor moive you talked about friggs alleys on how there with her at all times but thats only the case for fulla
Other than that your videos are very good and I enjoy them keep it up
man i love your content , i always eagerly wait for your videos.
5:38 The question there in lies, 9 birthing or 9 raising mothers?
I have heard a story explaining this but I don't recall where from so it could just be a kind of fanfic thing, but anyway, here goes: Heimdall's grandfather had nine daughters. He left on some quest and came home to find that one of them had given birth to a son but none would admit who. Each claimed to be the mother so that none of them could be in trouble for having lost her virginity.
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Oh boy! I am so excited for the Inaccuracies of God of War 4, Ragnarok and Valhalla!
By far, Valhalla is the best part of God of War Ragnarok and i really love the ending
P.S: i wonr spoiler the ending. But, i have one thing to say about the ending: it is very heart warming to see him smiling again🥺
He smiles?! I need to finish Valhalla now
@@xChaosFlower Yup. He smiles, again. Once you see the ending, your heart is gonna be so soft like a marshmellow that you want to see the ending scene over and over and over again.
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I think the way the MCU treats it is that asgardians refer to diffrent planets as Realms and the Nine Realms are simply the 9 planets Asgard is closest to that are part of Ygdrasil, wich here probably means that there like a constallation ore thers some magical connection to those 9 planets. So whenever a diffrent realm that isnt part of the 9 is mentiond they basicley just mean other planets.
I never get why Hollywood doesn't make movies about real mythology. They could make a really cool movie just based off Norse Mythology. Who wouldn't want to watch Thor and Loki dress up as women to get Mjolnir back?
Saying it in advance, Congratulations for reaching 1Million subscribers.
The thing about the first two Thor movies is that the writers decided to distance the MCU versions of the Norse Gods from their Comic Book counterparts by makin' them aliens that happen to look human and have the names of Norse Gods and wield their weapons. Thor Ragnarok's depiction of the Norse Gods is basically Taika Watiti decidin' "Fuck it. No more Ancient Aliens bullshit. The Asgardians are Gods".
"So, Asgardians are aliens from another planet that visited us thousands of years ago ... and because we couldn't understand aliens, we thought they were gods?" -Skye, Agents of Shield
I disagree. The First Two Thor Movies took more inspiration from the comics (Specifically the JMS run on the Thor comics.). Meanwhile, Takia Waititi’s Thor movies were inspired on Jack Kirby and Jason Aaron’s run on the Thor comics.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios the only Thor movie that had anything to do with the Straczynski run was the first one. And mainly because Straczynski co-wrote it. Taijka Wushunabi spoof parodies of Thor movies were inspired by his inflated ego and lack of any competency on the subject matter, not Kirby or Aaron. To even suggest that Watsjabi's parody had anything to do with the 60s run on Thor says that you, much like Watsjabi, have never touched those comics. Lee and Kirby Thor comics were epic, dramatic, theathric and sincere fairy tales with great sense of scale and epic romance between Thor and Sif and swashbuckling adventures with Thor's loyal brothers in arms The Warriors Three. Waititi's nonsense is the absolute opposite of all that. And Aaron... Aaron's stuff felt more like if Zack Snyder directed Thor more than anything with Waititi.
@@antona.1327 I’m talking about the looks of the costumes, and the world of the Takia Watitti Thor films. The look of the costumes & world are ripped straight out of Kirby & Aaron’s Thor Comics. A clear example is the wall on one of S’sakar’s, which is based on a machine carried by the Thing in Jack Kirby’s run on Fantastic Four. Another big example is the shot of Thor & Korg looking Falligar’s dying corpse, which is ripped straight from that same panel of Falligar dying in Issue 3 of Jason Aaron’s run.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios nay, 'tis not Kirby's Thor aesthetics were Norse-like, not that plastic-y cornball sh1t in Waititi's movies. But also, what the F Kirby got to do with Sakaar, a planet that was created years after his death by another artist and that looked nothing like it was in the movie? And also, MCU Sakaar is nothing like Kirby's works. The opening to Man of Steel, that's classic Kirby. Large fantasy worlds with creatues and organic looking machinary. Nobody in those awful movies looks anything like in Kirby's fantastic artworks. Where is the clean-shaven, helmet-wearing, ISAYTHEENAY yelling Thor in Ragnajoke, tell me. Also, one single panel recreation, while competely avoding the meaning and context of the said panel in the source material, isn't ''ripped straight out of''. That panel was already made to be cinematic by Esad Ribic, and Taika, or whoever it was, telling CGI artists to trace it for a split second isn't some great achievment. Especially not since Zack Snyder did 300 and Watchmen and had almost every comic panel brought to life. And that's knowing that Frank Miller is not even two percent as good of an artist as Esad Ribic and his art would be far harder to translate to screen.
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Oh yeah
I'm really looking forward to your next takes on the Mythological Accuracies and Inaccuracies in God of War and God of War Ragnarok.
Inaccurate does not mean bad, but this movie was cheeks
Awesome video as always. maybe one day you can do the game Hades
Wait, the Dark Elf planet is also known by the same name as the place where Thor got his hammer and Stormbreaker?
Oh yeah we’ll get to that in a future video
@@TheMythologyGuy1 id love to see more videos on Egyptian mythology
That's because it's the same place. In some versions of the myths, the dwarves and dark elves are one and the same.
Am I misremembering or conflating myth lore and game lore because aren't Dwarves "svartalfar" and dark elves "dokkalfar"? Svartalfar being "black elves" or "swarthy elves" (IIRC the word "swarthy" for dark-skinned can be traced back to or encompass "swart/svart") and dokkalfar (dokk being Icelandic for Dark, and Icelandic being the closest and least changed language from Old Norse) being "dark elves". I know there's contention of Dwarves and Dark Elves being interchangeable at times in the myths with the name "svartalf" only. With the belief that Dwarves are the "swarthy elves" due to their environment and work that gets one pretty dirty/darkened. Was dokkalfar a later addition or result of intentional Christian mistranslation then?
I know both Svartalfheim and Nidthavellir/Nidavellir are mentioned at the same time but, to me at least, it seems the "heims" would likely be the realms themselves where Nidavellir could be a part of or place _in_ the "heim"? I could be completely wrong here but it seems to me that Dwarves/Svartalfar should likely hail from Svartalfheim as their "home". Now.... "nith" is an old German thing that related to a social stigma where "nidth" (ni [thorn] d) is used in mean both new moon, waning moon, and time before a new moon _as well_ as "down". "Vellir" it a bit more up in the air but it could be from "vollr" which would be "field, flat ground, meadow" *or* maybe proto-Germanic wela/Old Norse vel which seems to mean "well" in the sense of doing well OR "full, ample, largely" -- then the "r" ending seeming to also denote a place of or action of (vikingR, draugR, SvartalfheimR, etc). With German and Norse borrowing from each other and a lot of similarities I wonder if there's a connotation of shame or "hiding ones self" tied into the name of Nidavellir and with the Dark Elves being subterranean or "hidden" it would fit aptly. Nidavellir meaning something akin to "Meadows of the Hidden Ones", "Large Open Area of Darkness" aka underground, some shit like that?
I don't know, I'm excessively fuckin' rambling at this point but TL;DR -- Dwarves and Dark Elves are completely different entities in Norse Mythology and I have literally no evidence to back that up -- just believe me bro lol @@The4Headed_Dragon
@@Kaspar.C0LD Svarthalfheim means dark elf home. Nidavellir means land of the hidden ones.
Odin’s stance on humans and his godhood confuses me in this movie. When he speaks to Loki he reprimands him for calling himself a god and states how Asgardians live, breath and die just like humans do and he even shames Loki for bringing war, ruin, and death to Midgard and its people. Yet, when he speaks to Thor he says that human lives are fleeting and nothing sooooo what does he actually think about humans? If their lives mean nothing then why did he seem to care so much about how much death Loki caused? Loki didn’t use Asgardians to invade earth, he used another alien species so Asgard didn’t lose anything from Loki’s actions and Odin obviously didn’t care enough about his son’s outburst to send help to Midgard. Then, when Odin confronts Thor he literally says that “she is mortal” but he literally said to Loki earlier in this movie that they are also mortal “just like humans” so does Odin think he’s a god or not? Does Odin value humans or not? I know mythology Odin is a huge liar and will tell anyone anything they want to hear but Marvel Odin is supposed to be different.
Ah yes my favorite mythological figure
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Can't wait for the Thor Ragnarok video and the Avengers Infinity War/Endgame videos when they get released.
this movie would be fun if it leaned into norse mythology more. Keep most of asgard the same along with Malekith.
In the deleted extended scene, that is called the Norn Pit, and it is said that it’s in Asgard, but within their own continuity there is a realm called Nornheim.
0:26 Does this make Knull a dark elf
No I think he’s probably just the reason why they exist
Not only did this movie get a lot of inaccurate parts of the mythology (not surprised as the comics aren’t either.) but it was super inaccurate to the comics as well, where’s the half blue half black Malekith. He’s in my opinion a very fun villain and I personally like his design.
the third and fourth Thor movies literally introduced actual divine beings in a stupid fashion. Odin's quote in the first gets ignored since for some reason.. GODHOOD is now such a important thing they keep mentioning it so many times
I love this video man
There is an explanation as to where freya is you see the story for this is that freya married odin and changed her name to frigga kinda like the god of war games
I love how every time the mythology guy speaks I laugh because of how true it is or how he is just very funny
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I kinda hoped, you say „I know this is gonna shock people but Thor did not fight robots on a flying city“
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Hi Mythology Guy! Big fan here! I just wanna point out a conception people have that I have heard about, including Jake Doubleyoo, whom I am also a big fan of, and that is the fact that frigg and freya appear to be same goddess due to a lot of similarities between them. I’m not gonna get into the nitty gritty of it all, so I recommend seeing Jake dubleyoos video on the topic, but perhaps that’s why friggs name is frigga in the MCU. Marvel could’ve combined the two figures together into one figure, and made a name combining their names such as frigga. God of war did this too. This could also be the reason why freya isn’t in the Mcu because she’s really frigga! Boom big reveal theory or whatever! Please reply back if you have anything else to say on the topic. Besides that, have a great day and keep up the great work!
1:53 I can only imagine the outcry if the movie had made the dark elves accurate to that description
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7:55 - This is my favourite idea for how the Warriors Three end up in Asgard. None of them really fit the aesthetic, so it makes sense they'd be offshore picks from some well travelled valkyrie.
We get to see Hogun's origin in the comics and he's been in a long-lived battle with a warlord who had "Satan's Forty horsemen" and a Jinn on his side. If he died in battle, and we they just never told the reader that directly, I think that would be more than enough to earn him a place in Asgard.
Makes me wonder how Fandral (actual Robin Hood) and Volstagg ended up there.
Unfortunately, we do see them all together as kids in Asgard (which also contradicts Hogun's origin a bit) but this is a head-cannon I prefer.
Sounds like their use of aether is an adaptation of what popular science would refer to as dark matter. Unpopular scientific theory refers to dark matter as aether. It's described as an unknown unseeable energy that holds the universe together.
15:52 Don’t forget about a red dragon that’s kind of the personification of Avarice in Norse Mythology.
Fafnir ?
I think the reason Odin's wife is called "Frigga" in the MCU is because she's probably supposed to be an amalgamation of all of Odin's wives. I mean think about it. Frigg + Frejya = Frigga. Plus they also gave her a bunch of characteristics from all of Odin's wives.
Frigga and Fricka are alternate spellings of Frigg's name that predate Marvel.
@Blokewood3 I didn't know that. But I do still think that the idea that Frigga is supposed to be an amalgamation of all of Odin's wives, at least in the MCU, does still stand.
Your reason does make sense as Stan Lee wrote the Thor comics, Frigga was made to be the Marvel equivalent to both Freyja and Frigg. Hence her name.
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oh so that's how Thor got flint in his head, he destroyed Hrungnir who is made of stone, oh ok, still must've been embarrasing that he got flint in his head though
‘How does a word for clean or fresh air connect to a force of infinite destruction?’
Me: “Watch what happens when I throw this lit match into a chamber full of pure oxygen”
2:03, I also spotted that Aether is one of the elements, alongside with Earth, Water, Air, and Fire
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I forgot that Thor can shrink his hammer.
Babe wake up, The Mythology Guy uploaded.