@@saltytree729 whoa, that's weird, I never heard of that! You gotta get that fixed, its such a useful tool. Maybe ask around on Twitch or discords if anyone knows
I tried the BO and combined with the idea of Magic with the other upgrades but i kept losing vs Loki, Poseidon, Odin because im not ready for an early push. For me i developed the idea to not using the armoy that early. I go faster into Age 2 with more Hersir and on the way to Age 2 i build the armory so it is easier to defend and effort the upgrades especially with forseti so you have 5 extra Dwarfs but a bit later. Thanks for the video and the ideas!
Hey I seen magic’s build is similar and he advances at 4:05 your build seems good but I think it may be countered hard by a Kronos or Greek mino / centaur rush? Top players advancing at 3-30-45 for Greek would be very aggressive at 4:20 for you to deal with
ye, that is true... But the thing is, even if you advance faster than this, you still dont have the resources or hersirs out to produce all the buildings you need as norse. It's tough to say, but right now I prefer the later advances where you have the resources to plug a lot of production buildings down immediately. Maybe need some good walling to survive the early greek onslaught
@@HUSKSUPPE I feel like your build is good, but could you practise it against some good Zeus/pos players? As those 2 gods seem like the gg gods at the moment, those are the two gods that give me hell at the moment in the first minute of advancement and I believe the faster advance time with good micromanagement of macro, is what may be potentially the best way to defend against a 3:30-45 Greek advancement or a Kronos temple harass/quick tc Set is another level animals op and will probably be nerfed. Would you class this as a booming build? A bit like a Freyr and go second/settlement or fast heroic and flaming weapons?
@saltytree729 early Greek aggro maybe just counters freyr tbh 😕 I would classify this build as surviving early and shooting to go for an extended classical fight!
Im rewatching this and have another question why are you and other thor players building normal Villigers and not mainly dwars i thougth the thor dwars are as good as the norm villiger? so why not save the 200 food for the faster age up? what am i missing ? as allways much love lad
Good question, I see some players going literally full dwarves! Look up Ourk for example. Still haven't tried it, but I think it had potential, might even be better like you say. One big downside is that you will deplete your first gold faster which is a problem
@@HUSKSUPPE i now tried 2 games vs ki. and i am just not as good at makro like you guys it dosent matter if i use norm villis or dwarfs i allways end up wit a 3:45/50 idk XD i gues i just build stuff XD if i have hunt i go vill if i have bad hunt maybe dwarfs. but in my elo no body early presures anyway XD
@@ManamindEU honestly, 4:45 advance not even that bad vs certain opponents. But also yeah, Thor much much harder to play than Odin/Loki or any of the other civs!
I think Freyr is cool and a good addition to the game, but I don't think I will be playing him much. Too defensive and boomy! Rock giants are really cool and the new powerful Mythic age GP is very interesting for norse
@c.j.aparajithan1585 @davidkorovnik Berserker builds armory and a house and goes scouting From the armory you research (when available) iron shields - hammer of thunder - iron mail dwarves created from the armory will go on wood. Either share ox cart with gold or go on straggler trees next to tc place goats next to tc --- 3 dwarves to straggler gold 2 gatherers to hunt - lure the animal into your tc so you dont have to build an ox cart (around this time, swap the 3 dwarves from wood to gold) 2 more gatherers to food 1 more gatherer who will start hitting 2 goats without killing them. (enough favor for Hammer of Thunder) send that gatherer to hunt when he is finished 1 more gatherer to hunt 1 gatherer to straggler tree 3 more gatherers to hunt - when you have more than 6 villagers on hunt it is a good idea to kill an additional hippo so they dont jump into each other Should be able to build a temple by now, so do that! when you have 50 wood available, start sending gatherers to berries. At this point, start thinking of getting to 400 food, so if you have spare gold spend it on dwarves instead of building gatherers gl!!!
@@HUSKSUPPE Hi Suppe, thanks for the guide! Why is the dwarven mine slower then a regular mine? Do you mean the gatherer rate? In the tooltips it says a dwarf gathers 1.06 gold/sec on regular mine and also 1.06 gold/sec on the dwarven mine. Thanks for the content! Cheers
Berserker builds armory and a house and goes scouting From the armory you research (when available) iron shields - hammer of thunder - iron mail dwarves created from the armory will go on wood. Either share ox cart with gold or go on straggler trees next to tc place goats next to tc --- 3 dwarves to straggler gold 2 gatherers to hunt - lure the animal into your tc so you dont have to build an ox cart (around this time, swap the 3 dwarves from wood to gold) 2 more gatherers to food 1 more gatherer who will start hitting 2 goats without killing them. (enough favor for Hammer of Thunder) send that gatherer to hunt when he is finished 1 more gatherer to hunt 1 gatherer to straggler tree 3 more gatherers to hunt - when you have more than 6 villagers on hunt it is a good idea to kill an additional hippo so they dont jump into each other Should be able to build a temple by now, so do that! when you have 50 wood available, start sending gatherers to berries. At this point, start thinking of getting to 400 food, so if you have spare gold spend it on dwarves instead of building gatherers gl!!!
Thanks for the build and insight! Gonna use it
Very nice video ! btw, what is the default keybing to pre-queue a tech ?
There is none! You have to manually right click the icon. Thanks btw!!
@@HUSKSUPPE my right click queue isnt working, do you know why and if its a keybind?
@@saltytree729 whoa, that's weird, I never heard of that! You gotta get that fixed, its such a useful tool. Maybe ask around on Twitch or discords if anyone knows
@@HUSKSUPPE it works on everything else apart from the major gods, do you need the resources?
@@saltytree729 major gods, what do you mean? It should work for age advancement! But you still need the required building and resources obviously
I tried the BO and combined with the idea of Magic with the other upgrades but i kept losing vs Loki, Poseidon, Odin because im not ready for an early push. For me i developed the idea to not using the armoy that early. I go faster into Age 2 with more Hersir and on the way to Age 2 i build the armory so it is easier to defend and effort the upgrades especially with forseti so you have 5 extra Dwarfs but a bit later. Thanks for the video and the ideas!
Hey I seen magic’s build is similar and he advances at 4:05 your build seems good but I think it may be countered hard by a Kronos or Greek mino / centaur rush?
Top players advancing at 3-30-45 for Greek would be very aggressive at 4:20 for you to deal with
ye, that is true... But the thing is, even if you advance faster than this, you still dont have the resources or hersirs out to produce all the buildings you need as norse. It's tough to say, but right now I prefer the later advances where you have the resources to plug a lot of production buildings down immediately. Maybe need some good walling to survive the early greek onslaught
@@HUSKSUPPE I feel like your build is good, but could you practise it against some good Zeus/pos players? As those 2 gods seem like the gg gods at the moment, those are the two gods that give me hell at the moment in the first minute of advancement and I believe the faster advance time with good micromanagement of macro, is what may be potentially the best way to defend against a 3:30-45 Greek advancement or a Kronos temple harass/quick tc
Set is another level animals op and will probably be nerfed.
Would you class this as a booming build? A bit like a Freyr and go second/settlement or fast heroic and flaming weapons?
@saltytree729 early Greek aggro maybe just counters freyr tbh 😕
I would classify this build as surviving early and shooting to go for an extended classical fight!
is this build still optimal if there is no hippos that i can lure to TC? can another one be used?
No this is for maps where you can lure hunt under TC. But you can use dwarven mine with this build and do just fine on other maps too
oh i see, thanks!
Im rewatching this and have another question why are you and other thor players building normal Villigers and not mainly dwars i thougth the thor dwars are as good as the norm villiger? so why not save the 200 food for the faster age up? what am i missing ? as allways much love lad
Good question, I see some players going literally full dwarves! Look up Ourk for example. Still haven't tried it, but I think it had potential, might even be better like you say. One big downside is that you will deplete your first gold faster which is a problem
@@HUSKSUPPE i now tried 2 games vs ki. and i am just not as good at makro like you guys it dosent matter if i use norm villis or dwarfs i allways end up wit a 3:45/50 idk XD i gues i just build stuff XD if i have hunt i go vill if i have bad hunt maybe dwarfs. but in my elo no body early presures anyway XD
@@ManamindEU honestly, 4:45 advance not even that bad vs certain opponents.
But also yeah, Thor much much harder to play than Odin/Loki or any of the other civs!
oh my retold is finally here, can't wait to see your gameplay, since you are a norse expert what are your thoughts on freyr?
I think Freyr is cool and a good addition to the game, but I don't think I will be playing him much. Too defensive and boomy!
Rock giants are really cool and the new powerful Mythic age GP is very interesting for norse
Soooo we dont have the hunt upgrade anymore for the Norse. but are bushes still bad? or ok
Berries are actually good! 80% as effective as hunt. Chicken same plus husbandry makes them a bit faster too
@@HUSKSUPPE HOLY ok !
Can u share a build order cheat sheet if possible. Thanks in advance
you mean for this build?
@@HUSKSUPPEyes pls
Ya share a work order sheet
@c.j.aparajithan1585 @davidkorovnik
Berserker builds armory and a house and goes scouting
From the armory you research (when available) iron shields - hammer of thunder - iron mail
dwarves created from the armory will go on wood. Either share ox cart with gold or go on straggler trees next to tc
place goats next to tc
---
3 dwarves to straggler gold
2 gatherers to hunt - lure the animal into your tc so you dont have to build an ox cart
(around this time, swap the 3 dwarves from wood to gold)
2 more gatherers to food
1 more gatherer who will start hitting 2 goats without killing them. (enough favor for Hammer of Thunder)
send that gatherer to hunt when he is finished
1 more gatherer to hunt
1 gatherer to straggler tree
3 more gatherers to hunt - when you have more than 6 villagers on hunt it is a good idea to kill an additional hippo so they dont jump into each other
Should be able to build a temple by now, so do that!
when you have 50 wood available, start sending gatherers to berries.
At this point, start thinking of getting to 400 food, so if you have spare gold spend it on dwarves instead of building gatherers
gl!!!
Yess I'm back to aom now Suppe... cya in the battlefield :v
Can't you just always do it by using the start ox for hunt and using dwarven mine at the start?
Dwarven mine slower than regular mine, and ofc you also spend your GP on it, which you wanna save for later! But yeah, perhaps true to some extent..!
@@HUSKSUPPE Hi Suppe, thanks for the guide! Why is the dwarven mine slower then a regular mine? Do you mean the gatherer rate? In the tooltips it says a dwarf gathers 1.06 gold/sec on regular mine and also 1.06 gold/sec on the dwarven mine. Thanks for the content! Cheers
hey friend - is it possible to drop a list of what you did in order?
Berserker builds armory and a house and goes scouting
From the armory you research (when available) iron shields - hammer of thunder - iron mail
dwarves created from the armory will go on wood. Either share ox cart with gold or go on straggler trees next to tc
place goats next to tc
---
3 dwarves to straggler gold
2 gatherers to hunt - lure the animal into your tc so you dont have to build an ox cart
(around this time, swap the 3 dwarves from wood to gold)
2 more gatherers to food
1 more gatherer who will start hitting 2 goats without killing them. (enough favor for Hammer of Thunder)
send that gatherer to hunt when he is finished
1 more gatherer to hunt
1 gatherer to straggler tree
3 more gatherers to hunt - when you have more than 6 villagers on hunt it is a good idea to kill an additional hippo so they dont jump into each other
Should be able to build a temple by now, so do that!
when you have 50 wood available, start sending gatherers to berries.
At this point, start thinking of getting to 400 food, so if you have spare gold spend it on dwarves instead of building gatherers
gl!!!
@@HUSKSUPPE tysm for taking the time to type this out! gonna be trying it soon
my left brain enjoying the game.... my right brain longing for daddy husksuppe read me a bedtime story with that voice 😭
haha, I will have to make a new channel for that kind of content!
Did he build some buildings on water?
Ye, can build on this water "terrain"
turn off your discord sounds when recording. i keep checking my own discord lol
discord sounds -_-
haha, sorry for that. Chat kept reminding me, won't happen again I promise!