Around 45:40, you guys mentioned someone altered a die to have two 3's. Funny enough, my friend and I opened a brand-new, never-opened pack of dice from GW and one of the die had two 3's on it. He was looking for a 3 specifically on a die to track CPs with in a game. I see him looking and looking for a 3 on a normal 6-sided die. He looked for over 30seconds before he released there was no three!! We both laughed so hard. XD
I've been at the end of a long day at a GT and absentmindedly picked up dice to shoot before I'd finished my movement phase because I was thinking of what I planned to do with the unit I'd just moved. I realized what I'd done immediately and my opponent told me too bad, you just forfeited the rest of the movement and your entire psychic phase, and by the way those fliers didn't make their required movement so they crash. I'd never dream of pulling that on an opponent, but hey, if he really wanted to win that way, whatever. I eventually talked him into letting me just make the minimum move with the fliers without turning them and we moved on, but I hate that kind of gamey bullshit.
Renegade Paladin yeah a certain amount of good faith has to play into this. To ward off done if these problems I volunteer to take my medicine on the minor stuff so if there’s a biggie I’m in better position to get some mercy 😉
That is quite simply pathetic behaviour by your opponent, sorry to hear that dude. People seem to forget we're all playing with little toys, and it's supposed to be a game. There isn't a 1/6 chance a queen will fail to capture a pawn or a 50% chance that the net could move when Jordan was going for a dunk, but here we are rolling randomness cubes and treating eachother like shit? Absurd.
as long as you only picked up the dice without rolling anything yet or anything else changing in the game, whats the problem? is one not allowed to pick up dice at a GT?
As long as you didn't roll the dice, you shouldn't be forfeiting anything. It's like chess, the chess piece is not moved when you pick it up, but rather when you realese it. Get a referee and if your opponent can't tell what the outcome of the dice roll was, you will be in favor.
I mean, if you never rolled the dice, and never actually stated you entered the shooting phase you should absolutely not take that crap. Players can obviously pick up the dice whenever they want, and I don't see any reason why you should have to skip your movement just because you picked up dice. I wonder what your opponent would do if their dice were blocking where they wanted to move to. Frankly you should have called a judge, because that was quite pathetic, and I wouldn't hesitate to chew him out over that.
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I am usually terrible with remembering to use the clock. But I am up front about it with my opponent. It cost me 15 mins in a tournament once. But I accepted it as my mistake and moved on. I think we all have been tired and picked up an extra dice before. I've even caught myself after I rolled. I always give my opponent the option to have me re roll. Usually we just pull a successful die roll for each extra to keep it simple. The only time I called a TO or ref over, a guy tried to tell me Bullgrins can get a Regimental trait. My main army is Guard, I know most of their rules reflexively at this point. I tried to explain it to him, even pulled out the Codex. He did not want accept it.
I know someone who measures from the front of the base and then moves to the back of the base. Always instantly denies it too. He's also the first one to cry "friendly game" when he forgets to do something but he's also the first to deny his opponent the same. Even tried to say necrons had a rule, I can't remember what it was, that they don't and argued it. Even though he was literally using my necron army, that I own and built for him to use, and even made me go through the book just to prove to him that he was wrong. I haven't played him in a while now. Surprisingly!
"If a waiter brings out the wrong food/food you didn't order, are you gonna sit there and eat it?" Totally never done that. Okay maybe I have. A few times.
A good key to playing faster, and doing planning faster. Do your planning DURING your opponents turn while he is shooting ect. Figure out what your going to shoot back at if XX survives or dies ect. So when it comes to your turn, your already ready to go, you already know what is going to move where and advance/charges that is going to happen.
Keep in mind, I have won "best painted" in two differing states in the USA and a "Sportsmanship" award at a tournament. With that said, I had one opponent who took 12 shots at me Orks, he rolled the dice and scooped them up almost as fast claiming that he got 14 hits. I had no chance to see the dice. I pointed this out to a Judge, it took two time explaining this to the Judge before the math issue donned on the Judge. Once the Judge figured out the math issue, the other player stated that I was cheating. I have no idea how that works??? Nether could the Judge figure it out.
I will also be attending the LTG, so that's cool. I sadly have experience with players using cheat dice, so I will be on the backhand trusting people (although I understand it is the 1% group that cheats) Is it strange to ask the opponent while he is deploying or something (just to make sure we don't waste time) to let me roll/feel his dice just to be sure? I feel like it might give a friendly game a bad taste from the start and I rather have my opponent have just as much fun as I have.
Sorry mate I can't watch this anymore. I've nearly been deafened 3 times haha. 43:49 in. If someone swears from now on could you instead cut the sound rather than using a beep. Sorry again
I will never understand cheating in a game. I can understand theft,murder,and any other crime. Games are a test of you;that’s the whole point. Cheating ruins the entire point of play a game. I told my kids why would you even play if you are going to cheat? It makes the entire game pointless.
I do like the part about you working out an issue with your opponent. I have run lots of warmachine events, and I always told players if they sorted it out themselves that was fine. I have played in a lot of events for different game systems, the honest, real, cheat at all cost players I can say I have never had to face.
Would it be honestly that expensive or time-consuming for TO's to provide a certain amount of dice per table at an event? Every tAble has the exact same set of sat 50 dice. Then dice cheating is mitigated to you paying attention to your opponent rolling.
@@Cgates642 I feel like dice cheating is a bit rare, and is generally sorted out in a few games. Plus the player gets a rep for doing it. As a TO, i have enough stuff to haul around without adding 50 dice per table.
@@lord17c I get that but unless we are talking major tournaments there aren't that many tables. And it would keep everything consistent. All dice being from the same company made the same way. No one can complain. But I do get it it's a lot of work already. I just think in general overall cheating intentional or not happens way more then people think. And mitigating it with so few judges is really hard.
lord17c I feel the main reason people end up with a Narcissist partner is being skeptical about running a background check-up on who they’re dealing with. My worst experience was discovering my 8 years husband cheating on me through the help of Cyberhackingsage who helped cloned his cell phone. All i did was share my husband’s number with Cyberhackingsage and i got access to his Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram and text messages both deleted and incoming ones without having to touch his phone. Contact him, he’s a Genius!( cyberhackingsage@gmail ) thank me later.
Problem 1 GW writes sloppy rules. Problem 2 Too many points with too little time on comparatively too small tables, makes boring lists, like knights & flyer spam. Problem 3 People are idiots.
9:00ish..."if you ask people like Alex Harrison what it used to be like, it's got alot better", yeah how quick he's forgotten Alex cheated at the 2018 London GT on stream multiple times haha.
No, I havne't forgotten that. I was talking about the ETC which has nothing to do with the LGT. Nor does Alex's behaviour have any bearing on the point I was making.
@@neilkerr2211 Hahaha! I am late to this, but beautiful response. I was reading the comment and was like "bet he has a good reply" - click on the button and there you are! Hahaha! Magic internet!
I once had a situation in a local tournament game in the warhammer store when I forgot to activate the fire&fade strategem for my dark reapers, and I remembered it when I was already shooting with the first next unit. My opponent didnt let me move my dark reapers. .... Well I crushed him anyhow, so in the end it didnt matter. Maybe that is "karma" :-). I will not play against him any more unless I have to.
@@warp5p1d3r6 it's a game where we use little plastic toys...and dice for rng. The entire idea of "competing" is already silly. So yes, bad vibes and bad sportsmanship is lame.
@@MichaelMarucci firstly you shouldn't demean the hobby in this way and its competitive scene. in traditional sports games are won by people/teams making mistakes. if you make a mistake then you need to own it and try and remember your stratagems next time. also the models are not toys.
both players should be allowed 90 minutes each per game the management of their time is down to the players if one players time runs out and the other has time left tough luck. The player with time should carry on playing their turns with the other player without time unable to do anything but flee. it's harsh but if players know the rules beforehand.
Around 45:40, you guys mentioned someone altered a die to have two 3's. Funny enough, my friend and I opened a brand-new, never-opened pack of dice from GW and one of the die had two 3's on it. He was looking for a 3 specifically on a die to track CPs with in a game. I see him looking and looking for a 3 on a normal 6-sided die. He looked for over 30seconds before he released there was no three!! We both laughed so hard. XD
I've been at the end of a long day at a GT and absentmindedly picked up dice to shoot before I'd finished my movement phase because I was thinking of what I planned to do with the unit I'd just moved. I realized what I'd done immediately and my opponent told me too bad, you just forfeited the rest of the movement and your entire psychic phase, and by the way those fliers didn't make their required movement so they crash. I'd never dream of pulling that on an opponent, but hey, if he really wanted to win that way, whatever. I eventually talked him into letting me just make the minimum move with the fliers without turning them and we moved on, but I hate that kind of gamey bullshit.
Renegade Paladin yeah a certain amount of good faith has to play into this. To ward off done if these problems I volunteer to take my medicine on the minor stuff so if there’s a biggie I’m in better position to get some mercy 😉
That is quite simply pathetic behaviour by your opponent, sorry to hear that dude.
People seem to forget we're all playing with little toys, and it's supposed to be a game. There isn't a 1/6 chance a queen will fail to capture a pawn or a 50% chance that the net could move when Jordan was going for a dunk, but here we are rolling randomness cubes and treating eachother like shit?
Absurd.
as long as you only picked up the dice without rolling anything yet or anything else changing in the game, whats the problem? is one not allowed to pick up dice at a GT?
As long as you didn't roll the dice, you shouldn't be forfeiting anything. It's like chess, the chess piece is not moved when you pick it up, but rather when you realese it. Get a referee and if your opponent can't tell what the outcome of the dice roll was, you will be in favor.
I mean, if you never rolled the dice, and never actually stated you entered the shooting phase you should absolutely not take that crap. Players can obviously pick up the dice whenever they want, and I don't see any reason why you should have to skip your movement just because you picked up dice. I wonder what your opponent would do if their dice were blocking where they wanted to move to. Frankly you should have called a judge, because that was quite pathetic, and I wouldn't hesitate to chew him out over that.
Sometimes I forget 40k started out as a game XD
how do you forget that?
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The thumbnail made me think the the ref was cheating
David Sherrer Oh referees would never do such a thing... 🙄
Oooo your not the only one 🤣🤣🤣
I am usually terrible with remembering to use the clock. But I am up front about it with my opponent. It cost me 15 mins in a tournament once. But I accepted it as my mistake and moved on. I think we all have been tired and picked up an extra dice before. I've even caught myself after I rolled. I always give my opponent the option to have me re roll. Usually we just pull a successful die roll for each extra to keep it simple. The only time I called a TO or ref over, a guy tried to tell me Bullgrins can get a Regimental trait. My main army is Guard, I know most of their rules reflexively at this point. I tried to explain it to him, even pulled out the Codex. He did not want accept it.
I know someone who measures from the front of the base and then moves to the back of the base.
Always instantly denies it too.
He's also the first one to cry "friendly game" when he forgets to do something but he's also the first to deny his opponent the same.
Even tried to say necrons had a rule, I can't remember what it was, that they don't and argued it. Even though he was literally using my necron army, that I own and built for him to use, and even made me go through the book just to prove to him that he was wrong.
I haven't played him in a while now. Surprisingly!
"If a waiter brings out the wrong food/food you didn't order, are you gonna sit there and eat it?" Totally never done that. Okay maybe I have. A few times.
A good key to playing faster, and doing planning faster. Do your planning DURING your opponents turn while he is shooting ect. Figure out what your going to shoot back at if XX survives or dies ect. So when it comes to your turn, your already ready to go, you already know what is going to move where and advance/charges that is going to happen.
‘Washington to Atlanta is not that far’ lol
Keep in mind, I have won "best painted" in two differing states in the USA and a "Sportsmanship" award at a tournament. With that said, I had one opponent who took 12 shots at me Orks, he rolled the dice and scooped them up almost as fast claiming that he got 14 hits. I had no chance to see the dice. I pointed this out to a Judge, it took two time explaining this to the Judge before the math issue donned on the Judge. Once the Judge figured out the math issue, the other player stated that I was cheating. I have no idea how that works??? Nether could the Judge figure it out.
Great video for clarity of chess clocks and rules around them. Brilliant to make this clearer for people 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I will also be attending the LTG, so that's cool. I sadly have experience with players using cheat dice, so I will be on the backhand trusting people (although I understand it is the 1% group that cheats) Is it strange to ask the opponent while he is deploying or something (just to make sure we don't waste time) to let me roll/feel his dice just to be sure? I feel like it might give a friendly game a bad taste from the start and I rather have my opponent have just as much fun as I have.
roll with his dice
Easiest thing is, if your not happy with how your opponents dice are rolling just ask him to share them.
Simply way is when he has wounded you, just use their dice for your saves
Sorry mate I can't watch this anymore. I've nearly been deafened 3 times haha. 43:49 in. If someone swears from now on could you instead cut the sound rather than using a beep. Sorry again
had a few drinks with Niel. awesome dude!
I went to university with Neil. I hope you didnt try and keep up with him.
I will never understand cheating in a game. I can understand theft,murder,and any other crime. Games are a test of you;that’s the whole point. Cheating ruins the entire point of play a game. I told my kids why would you even play if you are going to cheat? It makes the entire game pointless.
I do like the part about you working out an issue with your opponent. I have run lots of warmachine events, and I always told players if they sorted it out themselves that was fine. I have played in a lot of events for different game systems, the honest, real, cheat at all cost players I can say I have never had to face.
Would it be honestly that expensive or time-consuming for TO's to provide a certain amount of dice per table at an event? Every tAble has the exact same set of sat 50 dice. Then dice cheating is mitigated to you paying attention to your opponent rolling.
@@Cgates642 I feel like dice cheating is a bit rare, and is generally sorted out in a few games. Plus the player gets a rep for doing it. As a TO, i have enough stuff to haul around without adding 50 dice per table.
@@lord17c I get that but unless we are talking major tournaments there aren't that many tables. And it would keep everything consistent. All dice being from the same company made the same way. No one can complain. But I do get it it's a lot of work already. I just think in general overall cheating intentional or not happens way more then people think. And mitigating it with so few judges is really hard.
lord17c I feel the main reason people end up with a Narcissist partner is being skeptical about running a background check-up on who they’re dealing with. My worst experience was discovering my 8 years husband cheating on me through the help of Cyberhackingsage who helped cloned his cell phone. All i did was share my husband’s number with Cyberhackingsage and i got access to his Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram and text messages both deleted and incoming ones without having to touch his phone. Contact him, he’s a Genius!( cyberhackingsage@gmail ) thank me later.
I played a guy that his dice only had 4, 5 and 6. Thankfully it was a non competitive match.
What is the time per player turn or phase if that's how it works?
If someone intentionally cheats you in the game and you are sure they did, just say “ You win” pick up your pieces and never play them again.
Thats the grown up way to handle it but in a competition you are trapped with the cheater :/
Watched this after the LGT yellow card video, good to see this retrospectively.
On the subject of loaded dice, I could do with some of them considering how I usually roll. 😂🎲
Great content keep up the hard work
in my country we don't send the best . we send hu wana go
Problem 1 GW writes sloppy rules.
Problem 2 Too many points with too little time on comparatively too small tables, makes boring lists, like knights & flyer spam.
Problem 3 People are idiots.
In a game so competitive, is it a wonder that people cheat?
9:00ish..."if you ask people like Alex Harrison what it used to be like, it's got alot better", yeah how quick he's forgotten Alex cheated at the 2018 London GT on stream multiple times haha.
No, I havne't forgotten that. I was talking about the ETC which has nothing to do with the LGT. Nor does Alex's behaviour have any bearing on the point I was making.
@@neilkerr2211 Hahaha! I am late to this, but beautiful response. I was reading the comment and was like "bet he has a good reply" - click on the button and there you are! Hahaha! Magic internet!
I once had a situation in a local tournament game in the warhammer store when I forgot to activate the fire&fade strategem for my dark reapers, and I remembered it when I was already shooting with the first next unit. My opponent didnt let me move my dark reapers. .... Well I crushed him anyhow, so in the end it didnt matter. Maybe that is "karma" :-). I will not play against him any more unless I have to.
you made a mistake and he is the bad guy?
@@warp5p1d3r6 Sounds like your average millennial.
@@warp5p1d3r6 it's a game where we use little plastic toys...and dice for rng.
The entire idea of "competing" is already silly. So yes, bad vibes and bad sportsmanship is lame.
@@MichaelMarucci firstly you shouldn't demean the hobby in this way and its competitive scene. in traditional sports games are won by people/teams making mistakes. if you make a mistake then you need to own it and try and remember your stratagems next time.
also the models are not toys.
@@warp5p1d3r6 They're toys. We're playing with toys. Grown men, playing with little toys.
I own that, you should too.
ITC isn't with best players from alk coutries. In belgium the ITC team is made with friends of the "official ITC lead" XD
Neil Kerr: Unlimited Ref.
both players should be allowed 90 minutes each per game the management of their time is down to the players if one players time runs out and the other has time left tough luck. The player with time should carry on playing their turns with the other player without time unable to do anything but flee. it's harsh but if players know the rules beforehand.
Time stamp 21 mins. All that tapping. Yes, pedantic.
Luke Evans? Lol
Is this channel for kids? Can do with out beeps.
manga3040 not in particular, and a little beeps never hurt anyone they’re just words 😛