It would be interesting to see this test redone by a golfer in the ability range and swing speed range that the ball was intended for. Like a 15+ handicapper with a driver swing speed maybe around 100 mph +/-. Someone who doesn't have a pure swing like Matt who centers up every shot...to see what kind of help the ball might be giving off the tee in terms of narrowing the dispersion due to less than ideal strike.
That is a good point. It would be nice to see it compared to the other budget Bridgestone models and maybe a chrome super soft. Those are pretty much the best balls at Walmart aka the number one beginner ball pick up shop.
I typically play a tour ball and was pleasantly surprised when testing this ball. I'm usually high speed/high spin player (aka: with the driver, I have enough distance, but struggle with hitting fairways and with wedges, I often spin balls off the front of the green). I did notice straighter drives, but not much loss of distance. I hit wedges that spun, but not agressively and had mid/long irons spin and check up enough. The most suprising thing, and could be the reason I switch to it, was aroud the greens. The cover is definitely BETTER than any of the other brands' $30 ball. At first, I was leaving chips and bump/runs short because I was compensating for the way cheaper balls usually feel around the green. After a few holes, when I began to trust the feel was the same as the tour ball, I just starting playing shots the same as I would normally, and it worked. Putting also had a very similar feel to a tour ball. EXCEPTIONAL feel around the greens and overall solid performance makes this $30/doz ball a GREAT VALUE.
Sounds like i have a very similar game to yours , with a worse driver than yours i can assure you! 😂😂 Found one of these on the course the other day and absolutely LOVED it , was straigher on every club and hit probably the straightest and longest drives ive ever hit! The sound was so good off the driver face Also LOVE the feel off my putter face ... Haven't drained that many 18 footers in some time. I think im a convert!
I found similar results with the E6 (haven’t tried E12 yet) - it’s surprisingly good around the greens on short approach shots. Definitely more spin that you expect from a “straight distance ball.” And the price is right too!
I used the E12 & Pro V1 today over 27 holes of practice. The e12 was way longer and lower in flight with the irons. Actually, the day was windy and the e12 out preformed the ProV1 in these conditions.
I tested these in the prototype stage and I was really impressed. I'm in the 105mph driver range and saw good results off the driver and really good results off the irons. Spin was decent, height and descent angle were excellent
I continue to be stunned how much the golf ball can matter on some of the numbers. I am a 2 hcp, and have basically always chosen a ball by loyalty… I honestly can say that I have very little confidence I am playing the “right” ball for my game other than “feel”.
19 Hcp here with a 97mph driver speed. Been playing this ball since they came out and haven't noticed much difference from the E6. The ball seems to test well and the price is awesome. I am definitely who the ball was designed for and I would say I'm happy enough with it. I still feel like I'm at that point in my golf journey where I'm questioning my equipment constantly...BUT that's part of the fun for me. I haven't switched back to the E6 yet (which are $10 cheaper) but I may. I still go through 6-8 balls a round and dont want to be thinking about that when I get over a ball. I know its only $0.80 a ball but golf is a weird hobby where you're constantly evaluating an item's cost/performance ratio. You can get killed if you only buy the most expensive version of something thinking the cost translates to quality and game improvement.
That's pretty nearly my game's profile. I'm maybe a touch higher on driver speed, but not a lot - and I can totally relate to everything else you said. I've been using a middle of the range Srixon ball the last month or so and I kind of like that. Had my best game in a number of years last week and shot 83 on my men's night - which included a triple bogey on 18. 🙄
Have you considered ordering vice balls? Their pro and pro+ would give you better performance all the way around. They have a promo right now. You can get 6 dozen for $135, makes them like $22.50 a dozen. And they are right up there with the pro v’s, chrome soft. Just an idea.
@@MrDrMeow lol. See my handicap. Im just being honest dude. I live in FL where every course has lots of jungle and water. Most average golfers lose a couple in the drink, hit a breakfast ball and hit a couple OB. I'm not ashamed. Just trying to get better. Thanks for the comment though. It was helpful.
@@jamielahugh8316 Yeah I've considered them. They are a constant barrage on my insta feed. I just never knew anyone that played them or recommended them to me.
Another cutch video from you guys. Such in-depth conversation and knowledge. Best ball reviews around! You do a great job of summing things up for a lot of us average golfers who are curious about different golf balls and what they can do, and how they compare. Keep up the great work boys!
I have been using them for a while. I Like your comment, I still strike the ball too inconsistent to buy more expensive balls, and these work great for me.
I have settled on Vice Pro for my ball. Loved the Snell mtb but didn’t seem durable enough. I even dipped into the firmer ball world with the Snell MTB-X (which was VERY consistent) and TP5X which felt terrible off the wedges and was (for me) a little inconsistent. It (tp5-x) did feel great on FULL iron shots but around the green, feel is my measure of a ball. With that said Vice Pro was the one I kept going back to, and have now made my game ball. Just my two cents worth folks. Great vid as always guys!👍
@@method341 Take the standard Vice pro for a test run,,,,, if you liked the pro plus you will adore the pro. And at the moment you get 6 dozen for the price of 5 . Time to stock up on a good thing before ball stocks run low again….. and I have a feeling they will. I got 6 dozen tp5x at $35 AUS a dozen. Now I’m gifting them to people I don’t really like that much!!! A rock around the green is an apt description👍 . Also try the Snell mtb black if you haven’t. Great ball they really are, but as in my original comment, I wear them out a bit too easily.
I was sent a sleeve of these by Bridgestone prior to its release to test it out and found it’s wedge performance, full and partial shots, (especially in the wind) to be excellent. It performed well in the rest of the bag but not well enough to replace my Tour B X.
Glad to see a Bridgestone ball on the show. I’ve been playing the B330 since it arrived on the scene and much prefer it to pretty much everything else in the premium space for me. Love the feel off the wedges and short irons.
Interesting review on the golf balls. The Bridgestone ball is aimed at that mid handicapper with a swing speed at 95 mph or less. This player just wants to hit it straight and hit the greens. I don't think the player who plays the E12 is looking for backspin on the greens. I think the price point for these balls is also an attention getter.
I purchased this ball based on this review and the ball fitting on Bridgestone’s website. I’m a high handicapper and I think this ball is perfect for me. I have a noticeably higher ball flight and the ball travels straight. I like the matte red. I see the ball better. I was using Callaway soft matte prior to the switch.
Tried the e12 contact but went back to the tour b rx . The tour has more distance and “feels” better. Currently trying pro v1 but I like the tour b rx. Home course has postage stamp size, very fast greens. I’m going to try tour b rxs next. 95mph driver speed
First, thanks for sharing this thorough review. I don't play much but recently got into my company league and am playing more often, mostly limited to the one league course. I had played these e12 balls a while ago when my game was totally inconsistent and put them aside. Since playing more often I tried the Titleist Truefeel ball, advertised for lower swing speeds and at a reasonable price. As I am playing more I found the distance of the Titleist to be underwhelming and tried the e12 one more time. For whatever reason, I found I got much more distance out of the e12 off the tee, and apparently straighter lines with more fairways hit. Some of this could be attributed to more practice and frequent play but you'll have to trust me. I think I am getting about 1 more club distance on mid and short irons on approach, which will no doubt help my game. The spin from short irons remains to be seen; I have never been able to spin the ball very well with my game. But as a mid-high handicap player the extra distance and maybe some straightness will likely help me shoot some lower scores. I like the feel of these off the putter face but this is pretty subjective so it may be a case by case basis. For the price point, I would recommend any mid or higher handicap player to give these a try if looking for good distance and feel.
Yessss!!! Been wanting reviews of these mid-priced balls!!! Love the e6 speed and e12 contact! How about reviews of recycled (preferably non refinished) balls?
I'm a "serious" golfer that doesn't get to play as often as I'd like. In any case, I read a Golf Digest article years ago about pre-used balls, specifically those that had been recovered from under water. The bottom line was that balls lose compression and quality over time if they sit in a pond. For my money, I feel better about buying a consistent, mid-quality ball off the shelf (new) rather than taking a chance on recovered/refurbed balls from who knows when and where.
On a side note, Matt’s swing is looking really good! I know he’s been upset with his scoring, but to get better you have to deal with being a little worse for a bit while adjusting to swing changes.
Ya, i was wondering about the dispersion of the e12 vs the other balls he hit. Less spin (in my mind) also means less hook or draw or fade or slice. Which for some people struggling to hit fairways consistently, could be a good thing. I’ve got a couple of sleeves of the e12’s and i’m going to play a round with them and see how they do compared to the normal ball i play with, which is typically the Srixon Z-Stars.
I love the Bridgestone Tour BXS! Never played one until this year, and thought if it’s good enough for Tiger I should at least try it, and it’s perfect from the tee to putting for me!
The e12 is my favorite ball for $30 and less. I don’t know if I’m just getting better at golf or if this ball has directly helped me hit more fairways off the tee, but it flys really straight.
I would love to see a review on the ERC soft since it has the hybrid cover. There isn't a ton of information out there about spin numbers from that cover vs Urethane. I'd love to know whether its worth upgrading from that to the Chromesoft line.
Taylormade Tour Response is the sweet spot for the guy w a 230 yard drive. Not leaving much on the table in driver distance against a premium firmer ball, and more height, distance and descent angle in irons for a swing speed that really needs help getting the ball out there in the middle to top of the bag. Urethane cover which gives a fighting chance in the short game. $20 cheaper than pro v1/x.
Great review guys. I currently use the Bridgestone Tour B RXS, which suits my swing speed. On the strength of this review (and a couple of others) I won't be changing anytime soon.
This was a really interesting test - the only improvement I would love to see added to all club and ball tests is RH Matty so it's more relatable for us mortals with driver swing speeds
The Bridgestone did pretty well for a non-urethane ball. The Tour Speed is a urethane cover. Always buy the best ball you can justify, but always go urethane if possible.
These and TP5X are the only balls in my bag ,, if Im feeling a tad off Ill pull out the E12 , give up some spin but I dont loose the distance , really like the feel ,,Thanks Guys another great review ! On another note, really looking forward to my driver fitting Sept 2 !
Senior golfer, 12 hc, and admittedly slow swinger. Compared the Tour Response, Tour Soft, Tour Speed and e12 Contact where it counts... on the course. The e12 give me distance where I need it most... with my irons (T300's). I've also found that it is longer than the others when hit flush with the driver (Epic Speed Max). I've had no problem stopping it on the green with a wedge (Ben Hogan II's). I really wanted to see the urethane covered balls perform better but they just didn't. It's not about price for me, it's about performance and I've yet to find another ball that performs as well for me. On top of all that, it does have a soft feel and for a senior golf, that's a big plus.
Good video and great comparison, but have to keep in mind that the Tour Speed and E12 have different covers and compression. Tour Speed probably suited for players with above average swing speed. E12 ment more for the average swing speed player. E12 vs Callaway Superhot or Taylormade Tour Response would be nice to see. As someone who started out with the e6 and played the E12, the E12 preformed noticeably better around the green and putting than the E6 for me.
A very good trustworthy review. I have seen a good few ball reviews and this is 1st class. If I may suggest a couple of shots that you could have tested as well, as they are important feel issues for the average player. A feedback on what the Bridgestone e12 feels like on close chip shots a few yards off the green & putting. Best wishes. Kim
Ohhh was hoping for this test and the boys delivered and added an extra side by having another ball I wanted to give a go Tour Speed. I did try a dozen E12 and going to give them another go this evening in 45-60 km wind gusts, no idea why this year we have been fortunate in so days with little wind. The E12 didn’t quite convince me so far it suited my game as I lost some yardage off the driver with them. I still want to know what is in the Professor’s Egg Carton of magic. 👍👍👍👍👍
Love the Bridgestone tour b xs golf balls, I buy mine second hand off eBay after finding one in the course and liking it It’s got nothing to do with tiger using the same ball...... ok maybe a little
For everyone between an 18-40 handicap, with a sub-98mph driver swing speed (85% of golfers), that can't nip wedges around the green to stop and check, and want their irons to hybrids to go as far as possible, and also not give up Driver distance (again, 85% of golfers), the Bridgestone is a cheaper AVX and a perfect ball
@txg- love the content. It would be great if you had someone with a more average swing speed (~90-95mph) to do tests on equipment (clubs/balls) targeted towards us weekend golfers. Dare I say a female pro w/ LPGA speed since I believe LPGA averages are closer to average recreational men distances? I think many of your viewers could get more of an idea of how the equipment would perform for them.
I don’t think they retain It. They also would be comparing newer balls to older ones and they may have used different clubs for each ball. But It would be cool if possible.
Love the ChromeSoft X LS…..would I compromise and try less? Yes. Still would want to see the same ball flight though. And I try plenty of others. Eventually we’ll have the ability to compare golf balls on course with an acceptably priced quality GC QUAD, equivalent. Similar in price to a range finder. But, for now, it’s the suck it and see test. Great test. Will try some for my wife. Which is no slur. She may love it.
Great info thanks. I have always played prov1x and now Bridgestone tour b x as I love the firmer feel putting. But recent ball updates my wedges and mid irons spin WAY too much. Our greens are always wet. I love it when I play fast greens but looking for a ball to drop and stop on wet slow greens so really appreciate the full range testing. There is an issue with this testing...aerodynamics.
Soft balls overcompress with driver at higher swing speed but it’s nearly impossible to do so with an iron so you’re getting the absolute max potential on irons. The exact opposite is true with harder, high compression premium balls, doesn’t get the same output with the irons but have another gear when it comes to driver
Love your videos BUT maybe you would agree that the 2 golf balls you tested would be for slower swing speeds and mid to high handicap players. Although I love the work you guys do this video for me personally is worthless to help me determine a alternative goofball choice. 85 to 90 mph swing speed is probably your top viewers. Just my opinion but I get the most out of the videos you do for slower swing speeds. Thanks
We need a mid handicapper with a slower swing speed to join Matty on all these tests, that way a more average player might see if something is a little more relatable.
I think this ball are made for those around 100-105 club speed actually. If you swing that fast you should go up the bridgestone premium ball range. Should be compare to another in the same range and with proper speed.
I am a slow speed senior golfer who is a good ball striker and I maximize the speed I've got. At the $30 price point I have found no better all around golf ball then the Snell MTB Black.
Could you review the Callaway Diablo Tour. I've been curious about how it compares but the price point seems really nice. Might be a strong value ball.
For someone who swings the club at 95-100pmh i thnk the e12 is quite suitable ball for me, and we are the traget consumer of this model ball. Maybe be a more relative test if andy swung at 100mph with these three balls?
I tried them out because I am a high spinner on my driver and loved the changes that it made there however I had to take it out of the bag because of how much spin I personally lost around the green. I went with a lower spin 4 piece golf and it made a ton of difference and still helped some with the driver.
I was an E12 soft user until recently found a TM Tour response and love it. Ball speed better that the E12, checks on greens almost as a prov or Avx. Curious to see a comparison of the tour response
yeah funny that, i went the other due to the extra spin hurting my chipping game. e12 i can bump and run with confidence on multiple clubs and the TM i need to throw it at the pin more with some shots checking up to much and others releasing like crazy
Hey Ian @txg. Great review. One question. Can you actually say whether it's straighter or not by measuring the swing mechanics and first few yards of flight? Isn't the dimple pattern designed to keep it straighter trouhout the penetrating characteristics through air and wind ? Wouldn't it be more valid to test these claims outside and actually measure flight ? Thank you for your channel
@@clubchampionmedia Thank you for responding. Then it would be really interesting to watch a follow up with outdoor testing in headwind. I mean a straighter ball off the driver would have so much more value for the most of us , than a few yards of total distance. I have no problem with distance, but often find myself using low irons or 5 Wood of the tee on difficult teeshots. With 30some % straighter ball flight i could use driver most of the time
Love these budget ball tests. Would really like even cheaper ones vs expensive same brand. Callaway Warbird vs ERC soft. Taylormade Distance + vs Soft Response.
As a ball reviewer, if price wan’t a problem is it fair to say that Pro V1 would be the most universal golf ball for all handicaps and swing speeds? Or should ball fitting be as important as club fitting?
Could you do a gapping session for the higher handicap player with strong lofted clubs? I have the TM M6s and it feels like my PW is more like a 9 iron …but then I look down at my bag and I have 5 wedges and that feels wrong. It feels like you spend a lot of time at the gapping for the upper end of the bag, but for me the bottom is much more problematic.
looking to see if moving from callway ERC soft, my current ball. Been looking at Srixon Qstar tour. But not sure yet after playing them for a couple rounds, need to see find something in that $35 USD price point.
Can you test Wilson zip golf balls? They are like a secret golf industry golf ball, but I see great control/ long distance. Srixon XV is my favorite ball to play.
I used to play e12's because of the price. But then one day by chance I played a round with a pro v1 and the biggest separation for me was the spin off the wedges. I had never got an e12 to land and spin back towards me, but it was easy to do with a pro v1. That is enough to justify the price of a pro v1 for me.
Oh my god - I could listen to Ian say "dimple" every day from now on through the end of time. "deeeimple". Deeeeelightful.
It would be interesting to see this test redone by a golfer in the ability range and swing speed range that the ball was intended for. Like a 15+ handicapper with a driver swing speed maybe around 100 mph +/-. Someone who doesn't have a pure swing like Matt who centers up every shot...to see what kind of help the ball might be giving off the tee in terms of narrowing the dispersion due to less than ideal strike.
That is a good point. It would be nice to see it compared to the other budget Bridgestone models and maybe a chrome super soft. Those are pretty much the best balls at Walmart aka the number one beginner ball pick up shop.
Found an e12 in the rough and tried it. I bought a dozen and will test them this Saturday, I was that impressed with straight flight!!!
I typically play a tour ball and was pleasantly surprised when testing this ball. I'm usually high speed/high spin player (aka: with the driver, I have enough distance, but struggle with hitting fairways and with wedges, I often spin balls off the front of the green). I did notice straighter drives, but not much loss of distance. I hit wedges that spun, but not agressively and had mid/long irons spin and check up enough. The most suprising thing, and could be the reason I switch to it, was aroud the greens. The cover is definitely BETTER than any of the other brands' $30 ball. At first, I was leaving chips and bump/runs short because I was compensating for the way cheaper balls usually feel around the green. After a few holes, when I began to trust the feel was the same as the tour ball, I just starting playing shots the same as I would normally, and it worked. Putting also had a very similar feel to a tour ball. EXCEPTIONAL feel around the greens and overall solid performance makes this $30/doz ball a GREAT VALUE.
Sounds like i have a very similar game to yours , with a worse driver than yours i can assure you! 😂😂 Found one of these on the course the other day and absolutely LOVED it , was straigher on every club and hit probably the straightest and longest drives ive ever hit! The sound was so good off the driver face Also LOVE the feel off my putter face ... Haven't drained that many 18 footers in some time. I think im a convert!
I found similar results with the E6 (haven’t tried E12 yet) - it’s surprisingly good around the greens on short approach shots. Definitely more spin that you expect from a “straight distance ball.” And the price is right too!
I used the E12 & Pro V1 today over 27 holes of practice. The e12 was way longer and lower in flight with the irons. Actually, the day was windy and the e12 out preformed the ProV1 in these conditions.
I tested these in the prototype stage and I was really impressed. I'm in the 105mph driver range and saw good results off the driver and really good results off the irons. Spin was decent, height and descent angle were excellent
To me the ball should be marketed to the "less than 85 mph" swing speed. No way can a swing speed of 95 or more benefit from this ball.
I continue to be stunned how much the golf ball can matter on some of the numbers. I am a 2 hcp, and have basically always chosen a ball by loyalty… I honestly can say that I have very little confidence I am playing the “right” ball for my game other than “feel”.
I have never broken 90 so golf ball selection probably doesn't matter for me -- usually cheaper the better
19 Hcp here with a 97mph driver speed. Been playing this ball since they came out and haven't noticed much difference from the E6. The ball seems to test well and the price is awesome. I am definitely who the ball was designed for and I would say I'm happy enough with it. I still feel like I'm at that point in my golf journey where I'm questioning my equipment constantly...BUT that's part of the fun for me. I haven't switched back to the E6 yet (which are $10 cheaper) but I may. I still go through 6-8 balls a round and dont want to be thinking about that when I get over a ball. I know its only $0.80 a ball but golf is a weird hobby where you're constantly evaluating an item's cost/performance ratio. You can get killed if you only buy the most expensive version of something thinking the cost translates to quality and game improvement.
That's pretty nearly my game's profile. I'm maybe a touch higher on driver speed, but not a lot - and I can totally relate to everything else you said. I've been using a middle of the range Srixon ball the last month or so and I kind of like that. Had my best game in a number of years last week and shot 83 on my men's night - which included a triple bogey on 18. 🙄
Have you considered ordering vice balls? Their pro and pro+ would give you better performance all the way around. They have a promo right now. You can get 6 dozen for $135, makes them like $22.50 a dozen. And they are right up there with the pro v’s, chrome soft. Just an idea.
I don’t understand how you lose that many balls around
@@MrDrMeow lol. See my handicap. Im just being honest dude. I live in FL where every course has lots of jungle and water. Most average golfers lose a couple in the drink, hit a breakfast ball and hit a couple OB. I'm not ashamed. Just trying to get better. Thanks for the comment though. It was helpful.
@@jamielahugh8316 Yeah I've considered them. They are a constant barrage on my insta feed. I just never knew anyone that played them or recommended them to me.
Another cutch video from you guys. Such in-depth conversation and knowledge. Best ball reviews around! You do a great job of summing things up for a lot of us average golfers who are curious about different golf balls and what they can do, and how they compare. Keep up the great work boys!
I have been using them for a while. I Like your comment, I still strike the ball too inconsistent to buy more expensive balls, and these work great for me.
I have settled on Vice Pro for my ball. Loved the Snell mtb but didn’t seem durable enough. I even dipped into the firmer ball world with the Snell MTB-X (which was VERY consistent) and TP5X which felt terrible off the wedges and was (for me) a little inconsistent. It (tp5-x) did feel great on FULL iron shots but around the green, feel is my measure of a ball.
With that said Vice Pro was the one I kept going back to, and have now made my game ball. Just my two cents worth folks. Great vid as always guys!👍
@@method341 Take the standard Vice pro for a test run,,,,, if you liked the pro plus you will adore the pro. And at the moment you get 6 dozen for the price of 5 . Time to stock up on a good thing before ball stocks run low again….. and I have a feeling they will. I got 6 dozen tp5x at $35 AUS a dozen. Now I’m gifting them to people I don’t really like that much!!!
A rock around the green is an apt description👍 . Also try the Snell mtb black if you haven’t. Great ball they really are, but as in my original comment, I wear them out a bit too easily.
“Yes” 2:39 “nice” 2:45 always brightens my day 😆
I like the e6 and e12 both. They work well for me. I really like them for putting. They roll very smooth.
I was sent a sleeve of these by Bridgestone prior to its release to test it out and found it’s wedge performance, full and partial shots, (especially in the wind) to be excellent. It performed well in the rest of the bag but not well enough to replace my Tour B X.
Glad to see a Bridgestone ball on the show. I’ve been playing the B330 since it arrived on the scene and much prefer it to pretty much everything else in the premium space for me. Love the feel off the wedges and short irons.
Been curious about this ball for a while, thanks boys!
Bridgestone tour BX player myself, big fan of Bridgestone golf balls.
Interesting review on the golf balls. The Bridgestone ball is aimed at that mid handicapper with a swing speed at 95 mph or less. This player just wants to hit it straight and hit the greens. I don't think the player who plays the E12 is looking for backspin on the greens. I think the price point for these balls is also an attention getter.
I purchased this ball based on this review and the ball fitting on Bridgestone’s website. I’m a high handicapper and I think this ball is perfect for me.
I have a noticeably higher ball flight and the ball travels straight. I like the matte red. I see the ball better. I was using Callaway soft matte prior to the switch.
Tried the e12 contact but went back to the tour b rx . The tour has more distance and “feels” better. Currently trying pro v1 but I like the tour b rx. Home course has postage stamp size, very fast greens. I’m going to try tour b rxs next. 95mph driver speed
First, thanks for sharing this thorough review. I don't play much but recently got into my company league and am playing more often, mostly limited to the one league course. I had played these e12 balls a while ago when my game was totally inconsistent and put them aside. Since playing more often I tried the Titleist Truefeel ball, advertised for lower swing speeds and at a reasonable price. As I am playing more I found the distance of the Titleist to be underwhelming and tried the e12 one more time. For whatever reason, I found I got much more distance out of the e12 off the tee, and apparently straighter lines with more fairways hit. Some of this could be attributed to more practice and frequent play but you'll have to trust me. I think I am getting about 1 more club distance on mid and short irons on approach, which will no doubt help my game. The spin from short irons remains to be seen; I have never been able to spin the ball very well with my game. But as a mid-high handicap player the extra distance and maybe some straightness will likely help me shoot some lower scores. I like the feel of these off the putter face but this is pretty subjective so it may be a case by case basis. For the price point, I would recommend any mid or higher handicap player to give these a try if looking for good distance and feel.
Yessss!!! Been wanting reviews of these mid-priced balls!!! Love the e6 speed and e12 contact! How about reviews of recycled (preferably non refinished) balls?
I'm a "serious" golfer that doesn't get to play as often as I'd like. In any case, I read a Golf Digest article years ago about pre-used balls, specifically those that had been recovered from under water. The bottom line was that balls lose compression and quality over time if they sit in a pond. For my money, I feel better about buying a consistent, mid-quality ball off the shelf (new) rather than taking a chance on recovered/refurbed balls from who knows when and where.
Great video @clubchampion! Would love to see this test with a 90 mph driver swing speed.
On a side note, Matt’s swing is looking really good! I know he’s been upset with his scoring, but to get better you have to deal with being a little worse for a bit while adjusting to swing changes.
Man I just love this channel.
Ya, i was wondering about the dispersion of the e12 vs the other balls he hit. Less spin (in my mind) also means less hook or draw or fade or slice. Which for some people struggling to hit fairways consistently, could be a good thing. I’ve got a couple of sleeves of the e12’s and i’m going to play a round with them and see how they do compared to the normal ball i play with, which is typically the Srixon Z-Stars.
I thought one of the advertised advantage of the Bridgestone was reduced side spin. It did seem to have the best stats in that regard. Thoughts?
Absolutely love your channel!!! Wish you were located in the US, as I'd love to have a few sessions with your company!!!
I love the Bridgestone Tour BXS! Never played one until this year, and thought if it’s good enough for Tiger I should at least try it, and it’s perfect from the tee to putting for me!
Found one yesterday and pared the only par 3 I played it with lol..
The e12 is my favorite ball for $30 and less. I don’t know if I’m just getting better at golf or if this ball has directly helped me hit more fairways off the tee, but it flys really straight.
New user of these, but I might be in the exact same category- getting better, or the ball helping?
Honestly I’d enjoy watching you guys look at all mid-tier price balls. Taylormade Tour Response, Vice Tour, Titleist Tour Speed, etc
Thanks for doing this test, I'd really like seeing some tests of the 3 piece ionomer balls on the market now.
I would love to see a review on the ERC soft since it has the hybrid cover. There isn't a ton of information out there about spin numbers from that cover vs Urethane. I'd love to know whether its worth upgrading from that to the Chromesoft line.
On chip shots, it has low to no spin stopping power but it compensates with higher launch, so it evens out
So much learning by watching this channel
Taylormade Tour Response is the sweet spot for the guy w a 230 yard drive. Not leaving much on the table in driver distance against a premium firmer ball, and more height, distance and descent angle in irons for a swing speed that really needs help getting the ball out there in the middle to top of the bag. Urethane cover which gives a fighting chance in the short game. $20 cheaper than pro v1/x.
Great review guys. I currently use the Bridgestone Tour B RXS, which suits my swing speed. On the strength of this review (and a couple of others) I won't be changing anytime soon.
This was a really interesting test - the only improvement I would love to see added to all club and ball tests is RH Matty so it's more relatable for us mortals with driver swing speeds
The Bridgestone did pretty well for a non-urethane ball. The Tour Speed is a urethane cover. Always buy the best ball you can justify, but always go urethane if possible.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the e12 contact is a ionomer cover vs the other two are urethane. I would think that would be the biggest difference.
why does that matter
These and TP5X are the only balls in my bag ,, if Im feeling a tad off Ill pull out the E12 , give up some spin but I dont loose the distance , really like the feel ,,Thanks Guys another great review ! On another note, really looking forward to my driver fitting Sept 2 !
I’ve always enjoyed playing Bridgestone golf balls. Used to game the e6 and have switched the e12. Cost effective.
Senior golfer, 12 hc, and admittedly slow swinger. Compared the Tour Response, Tour Soft, Tour Speed and e12 Contact where it counts... on the course. The e12 give me distance where I need it most... with my irons (T300's). I've also found that it is longer than the others when hit flush with the driver (Epic Speed Max). I've had no problem stopping it on the green with a wedge (Ben Hogan II's). I really wanted to see the urethane covered balls perform better but they just didn't. It's not about price for me, it's about performance and I've yet to find another ball that performs as well for me. On top of all that, it does have a soft feel and for a senior golf, that's a big plus.
Good video and great comparison, but have to keep in mind that the Tour Speed and E12 have different covers and compression. Tour Speed probably suited for players with above average swing speed. E12 ment more for the average swing speed player. E12 vs Callaway Superhot or Taylormade Tour Response would be nice to see.
As someone who started out with the e6 and played the E12, the E12 preformed noticeably better around the green and putting than the E6 for me.
A very good trustworthy review. I have seen a good few ball reviews and this is 1st class. If I may suggest a couple of shots that you could have tested as well, as they are important feel issues for the average player. A feedback on what the Bridgestone e12 feels like on close chip shots a few yards off the green & putting. Best wishes. Kim
Ohhh was hoping for this test and the boys delivered and added an extra side by having another ball I wanted to give a go Tour Speed. I did try a dozen E12 and going to give them another go this evening in 45-60 km wind gusts, no idea why this year we have been fortunate in so days with little wind. The E12 didn’t quite convince me so far it suited my game as I lost some yardage off the driver with them. I still want to know what is in the Professor’s Egg Carton of magic. 👍👍👍👍👍
Love the Bridgestone tour b xs golf balls, I buy mine second hand off eBay after finding one in the course and liking it
It’s got nothing to do with tiger using the same ball...... ok maybe a little
For everyone between an 18-40 handicap, with a sub-98mph driver swing speed (85% of golfers), that can't nip wedges around the green to stop and check, and want their irons to hybrids to go as far as possible, and also not give up Driver distance (again, 85% of golfers), the Bridgestone is a cheaper AVX and a perfect ball
@txg- love the content. It would be great if you had someone with a more average swing speed (~90-95mph) to do tests on equipment (clubs/balls) targeted towards us weekend golfers. Dare I say a female pro w/ LPGA speed since I believe LPGA averages are closer to average recreational men distances? I think many of your viewers could get more of an idea of how the equipment would perform for them.
If you have lots of data with other balls (TPX, kirkland, callaway etc.,), why not put all the data in once chart for comparisons? Would be great info
I don’t think they retain It. They also would be comparing newer balls to older ones and they may have used different clubs for each ball. But It would be cool if possible.
@@FratBoyFishing solid point. Would be cool if they used standard clubs for all the balls hit going forward to see how balls compare... but well noted
Love the ChromeSoft X LS…..would I compromise and try less? Yes. Still would want to see the same ball flight though. And I try plenty of others. Eventually we’ll have the ability to compare golf balls on course with an acceptably priced quality GC QUAD, equivalent. Similar in price to a range finder. But, for now, it’s the suck it and see test. Great test. Will try some for my wife. Which is no slur. She may love it.
Great info thanks.
I have always played prov1x and now Bridgestone tour b x as I love the firmer feel putting.
But recent ball updates my wedges and mid irons spin WAY too much. Our greens are always wet. I love it when I play fast greens but looking for a ball to drop and stop on wet slow greens so really appreciate the full range testing.
There is an issue with this testing...aerodynamics.
You guys provide such good information, love the channel. I do miss the Russ Bray call though when Matty unleashes driver.
Used it a few rounds. I like it. Good price point, and can't go wrong for a weekend golfer, especially when it's on sale for 28CAD 😆
I live to hear the “yes” “nice” and “O yesss”
I was at the high end price Found these e12. great for my game, and less out of pocket.
Soft balls overcompress with driver at higher swing speed but it’s nearly impossible to do so with an iron so you’re getting the absolute max potential on irons. The exact opposite is true with harder, high compression premium balls, doesn’t get the same output with the irons but have another gear when it comes to driver
You should compare it to the old e12 soft or e12 to see if the new dimples actually did anything!
I would like to see a test with all the low spin firm balls CS X LS, TP5X, ProV1X Left Dash and so on.....
ive only messed about with it on a short game area. to me it feels great, launches higher than premium balls (eg csx), and spins just a bit less.
Great vid, guys. No one puts knowledge to use like you guys. Would love to meet you at Pinehurst.(1 hr. away)
Love your videos BUT maybe you would agree that the 2 golf balls you tested would be for slower swing speeds and mid to high handicap players. Although I love the work you guys do this video for me personally is worthless to help me determine a alternative goofball choice. 85 to 90 mph swing speed is probably your top viewers. Just my opinion but I get the most out of the videos you do for slower swing speeds. Thanks
We need a mid handicapper with a slower swing speed to join Matty on all these tests, that way a more average player might see if something is a little more relatable.
Great test fellas!
I think this ball are made for those around 100-105 club speed actually. If you swing that fast you should go up the bridgestone premium ball range. Should be compare to another in the same range and with proper speed.
I am a slow speed senior golfer who is a good ball striker and I maximize the speed I've got. At the $30 price point I have found no better all around golf ball then the Snell MTB Black.
I winder if the increased surface area would make the ball roll slower in the green?
CAN WE GET A MEME OF IAN SAYING DIMPLES INSIDE OF DIMPLES?!?!
I actually thought you'd said my name......quick re-read and all was good.
I’ve tried it. The feeling of the ball was not for me. Felt bouncy. Great vid guys as always. I love the breakdown of data
Great test! As always ball tests are eye openers to an extent.
It would be interesting to see how this performs on a sub-100 driver speed.
Interesting dimple pattern!
i use bridgestone but the tour bxs and i love it
Have found couple and was pleasantly surprised not bad would I buy them not sure
Tour speed is a good ball for the money. They seem to be reasonably durable as well
Could you review the Callaway Diablo Tour. I've been curious about how it compares but the price point seems really nice. Might be a strong value ball.
For someone who swings the club at 95-100pmh i thnk the e12 is quite suitable ball for me, and we are the traget consumer of this model ball.
Maybe be a more relative test if andy swung at 100mph with these three balls?
I tried them out because I am a high spinner on my driver and loved the changes that it made there however I had to take it out of the bag because of how much spin I personally lost around the green. I went with a lower spin 4 piece golf and it made a ton of difference and still helped some with the driver.
what ball was the low spin 4 piece?
I was an E12 soft user until recently found a TM Tour response and love it. Ball speed better that the E12, checks on greens almost as a prov or Avx. Curious to see a comparison of the tour response
yeah funny that, i went the other due to the extra spin hurting my chipping game. e12 i can bump and run with confidence on multiple clubs and the TM i need to throw it at the pin more with some shots checking up to much and others releasing like crazy
Titleist sent me some Tour Speed to test so anxious to see how Matty does with them.
I’ve played both on fast greens. The Tour Speed stops the Bridgestone does not…I find the AVX worth the extra $$…
Hey Ian @txg. Great review. One question. Can you actually say whether it's straighter or not by measuring the swing mechanics and first few yards of flight? Isn't the dimple pattern designed to keep it straighter trouhout the penetrating characteristics through air and wind ? Wouldn't it be more valid to test these claims outside and actually measure flight ? Thank you for your channel
100%, dimple patterns cannot be tested inside, certainly not their impact on aerodynamics.
@@clubchampionmedia Thank you for responding. Then it would be really interesting to watch a follow up with outdoor testing in headwind. I mean a straighter ball off the driver would have so much more value for the most of us , than a few yards of total distance. I have no problem with distance, but often find myself using low irons or 5 Wood of the tee on difficult teeshots. With 30some % straighter ball flight i could use driver most of the time
Love these budget ball tests. Would really like even cheaper ones vs expensive same brand. Callaway Warbird vs ERC soft. Taylormade Distance + vs Soft Response.
Where do you guys think the AVX would fit in here? 61 years old, 94 mph driver SS & been playing for 4 years.
As a ball reviewer, if price wan’t a problem is it fair to say that Pro V1 would be the most universal golf ball for all handicaps and swing speeds? Or should ball fitting be as important as club fitting?
Could you do a gapping session for the higher handicap player with strong lofted clubs? I have the TM M6s and it feels like my PW is more like a 9 iron …but then I look down at my bag and I have 5 wedges and that feels wrong. It feels like you spend a lot of time at the gapping for the upper end of the bag, but for me the bottom is much more problematic.
Might be a dumb question but would it be better to have 7 yards roll out or 4 yards roll out with a 7 iron? No idea what the typical range should be.
Great show
Thanks for this review
4800 backspin, 190 yards on a 7iron... these balls are for those who do not hit hard/far, no doubt...
looking to see if moving from callway ERC soft, my current ball. Been looking at Srixon Qstar tour. But not sure yet after playing them for a couple rounds, need to see find something in that $35 USD price point.
Can you test Wilson zip golf balls? They are like a secret golf industry golf ball, but I see great control/ long distance. Srixon XV is my favorite ball to play.
That's basically my 2 favorites right now also.
@@James_Vaughn right on. If I can afford the Srixon I get it, if not I’m playing Zip.
@@SpudOutdoors I've been able to find the 2019 xvs for $24.97 lately. Haven't tried the newer version.
@@James_Vaughn that’s what I was getting. It’s a great price
Curious for the driver test with these balls to see how that 5 mph ball speed would affect them going an into wind shot
I game the Srixon Z star but just tried the new Wilson Staff back. I like it but they need to drop the price down to the Srixon price point.
More bridgestone test please
Love a good ball review!
I want to swing like Matt with his power but slow is fast can you do a video on Matt’s swing plz
I have not tried this new e12 contact yet.
I skin my tour speed irons too much and looked for a replacement
I used to play e12's because of the price. But then one day by chance I played a round with a pro v1 and the biggest separation for me was the spin off the wedges. I had never got an e12 to land and spin back towards me, but it was easy to do with a pro v1. That is enough to justify the price of a pro v1 for me.
Good job boys, a lot in this video, needs more than one watch haha
Look like the old Callaway Hex balls