I’m not a fan of all this interior high gloss black in cars it’s so easy to get scratched even rubbing fingers across it can scratch it, well done both on the review as always 👍🏻
Data & facts: Porsche Panamera Lager air intakes Matrix LED, optional HD Matrix (Standard for Turbo) Length SWB 5,05 m 199“ LWB 5,20 m 205“ 19-21“ wheels Adaptive air suspension standard optional Porsche Active Ride with hydraulic system (8.000 Euro extra), only possible with PHEV optional rear-axle steering 12,6“ instruments 12,3“ infotainment optional passenger screen animal free interior with Race-Tex steering wheel and Pepita seats possible Trunk 495 l or 17,4 cf PHEV 430 l Turbo Hybrid 420 l Panamera (4) 2,9 l V6 BiTurbo 350 hp 5,1 s RWD 4,8 s AWD 4 E-Hybrid 2,9 l V6 470 hp 4,1 s 4S E-Hybrid 2,9 l V6 544 hp 3,7 s GTS 4,0 l V8 500 hp 3,8 s Turbo E-Hybrid 4,0 l V8 680 hp 3,2 s Turbo S E-Hybrid 4,0 l V8 782 hp 2,9 s battery 22 kWh net, 11 kW AC (2 h 40 min), better recuperation Prices entry around 100.000 Euro / dollars With extensive spec: 180.000 (test vehicle in Provence color) Possible: 250.000 Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
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I have to disagree with you about the fluidity of Chinese tech companies OS. Huawei's Harmony OS, Xiaomi's Hyper OS or Honor's magic ui are both very smooth to use. You must be living under a rock to say stuff like that, we are not in the 90's anymore @@n1ngnuo
Awesome review as always, really great point made about fabric seats, the fact that probably no one else in this price range offers this option with this level of comfort along with heating+cooling(even for rear seats) so thanks a lot for pointing that out, this alone makes me put this car at the top of my wishlist. Cheers Thomas!
Very professional presentation, thank you. Nice to see Leah too. My current car is a BMW 8 series V8 grand coupe. I did test drive the Panamera and yes, it’s high quality but more expensive unless you spend £,0000’s more. Best regards
Nice. Leah is lovely. With her lavender, another flower for her 🥀 Would be nice to see your review on base Macan electric announced a couple of days ago. When are you getting your hands on that?
Front end on that Panamera looks good. The hybrid option is awesome and should sell well. Love the layout of instrumentation and screens that fit the contour of the dash. I love how Porsche is keeping the cockpit of these cars personal and bustling with flavor. Too many manufacturers have produced minimalistic interiors where everything is done through a touch screen and thus creates an impersonal connection to the driver. Driving a vehicle and trying to touch the touch screen while in motion is difficult and dangerous. I’m sure those manufacturers did not have people driving and touching the touch screen during the research, otherwise they would have realized that this is a bad idea to implement everything through a touchscreen. Porsche has done a nice job of blending basic functionality with latest tech.
Great review Thomas & Lea. Thanks so much & love your style & presentation. This model is wonderful as you would expect - a little concerned about care on the central console. - think they need to dull it down a bit - maybe leather. Great colour - I think I prefer darker - just a personal choice. Bless & look forward to the next one. Badger U.K.
I now wish that I had gone ahead and ordered an ST when I got an allocation in 2022. The only reason I didn't was that the power/memory steering wheel column had become unavailable. I instead bought a Cayenne just to get the power steering wheel column but the Panamera would have been much more enjoyable to drive and much easier to enter for my short wife. I doubt that I would buy a non-ST Panamera due to the high lift-over into the cargo area and I vastly preferred the look of the ST.
Just for fun I built a Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid for a grand total of $286,565. Has almost every option you could think of, $58,070 in options. That's just crazy!
There a lot to like about PHEV, I think. The downside is that you still need a plug, and more often, than with a BEV, if you want to get as much all-electric driving as possible around the city of B roads.
The previous Panamera looked better and more elegant. The oversized headlights in particular. I know they say it's an all new model but it seems like a face lift that cut the previous model harmony.
I also purely despise the silly gear lever position. It's dumb. Keep you silly EV antics to your EVs. Mercedes for example didn't just randomly move their start button to the centre console because they do that on their EVs. I don't even understand the logic behind moving it there. It's stupid. In avoiding to go the Mercedes gear stalk route out of pettiness, they're only now 2nd to the Cybertruck position wise. Appalling.
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@@Nickbaldeagle02 I get that - but if I'm paying around $110,000 for the standard Panamera, it's not asking too much for the baseline interior to feel a little more expensive.
The plastic switches? Plastic switches are fine at this price now? Any decent car with a 2 step window switch sounds just like that....th does that have to do with "Porsche quality" ?? You can tell it's also pretty thin as well, cuz the thicc and thinner switches have unique sounds to them. Ridiculous glazing.
Thomas your disappointment the panamera acceleration didn’t make Leah squeal like the new 911 did was hilarious. New acceleration benchmark is required regarding this!
Yes I agree the piano kind for the lower part does provide more pain than pleasure. Plus you need to clean it regularly. Wonder why not having it as the canopy or the seat material which would maintain some continuity in the inside design. Aside this basic comment, what a car. Thank you again for your video.
I like seeing the night view of the cockpit (8:50); please show this on all car reviews! Regarding the passenger screen, I wish they'd let the driver see the passenger screen; it's rather absurd that they think the driver is fine looking at the center infotainment screen but not at the passenger screen. The driver, after all, looks frequently at his/her right-side exterior mirror, sometimes for several seconds if there's something that needs attention on the car's rear side.
Good review, thanks. But what is going on with these crazy prices… it wasn’t that long ago things were a bit more sensible.. I wish car companies wouldn’t just take their customers for granted… I’ll wait until it drops by 50% in a year… :)
Ugly gear selector, removed fancy cup holders, less natural materials and more displays. Seems like Porsche tried to make car cheaper to manufacture but trying to sell it for more.
Can you share your thoughts on the topic of ride comfort provided by the Active Ride option? My understanding is that it should handle bumps/broken tarmac very well (the wheels would follow the bump/hole, while the cabin stays flat - they call it sky hook). Also the system should reduce head-toss significantly. So maybe this option would be good for our not so perfect riads (as they are in Germany)?
I thought we were going to get a Leah presenting special edittion at the start Is it cheaper for car companies to offer standard leather interiors. The Pepita interior option is £1242!!!
Cheers! Ya indeed it is weird, to me it seems that in Northern America, the Macan is always with animal skin, in Germany and UK for example you can get leatherette seats as base and then have to opt for Racetex steering wheel. Why do they make it that complicated and not even an offer for NA market... Panamera even offers next to the shown fabric seats to go base leatherette seats and get the Racetex steering wheel as single option. Then the leatherette seats on the Panamera are not available in UK and Germany - great logic =)
Fake electic shifting is dumb. But companies are doing whatever they can just to make the convertion from combustion to elelctric/hybrid more appealing to the masses. But it doesn't really make sense. Beautiful car, though. I love the Panamera. I have an A7, which is a direct competitor (a bit cheaoer for sure), so I like bigger sporty luxury cars.
As I explained, it is no fake electric shifting here. The electric motor is behind the gearbox, so the vehicle has to shift in no matter mode it is in.
I remember how I used to say the Panamera was ugly all those years ago when the 1st generation launched. I wonder if those that thought it was good looking back then have changed their minds as I have.
so base 911 Carrera starting price is higher than base Panamera, and base Panamera is higher than base Cayenne. It gets less expensive as the car gets bigger and vice versa.
Curious about ride quality on an uneven surfaces, like within the city. Does it feel superbly comfortable or only slightly better than a car without that system?
Thomas you have driven the base RWD, the 4, the e-4, and the e-4S. Is the feel of the base just fine or if personally affordable is it worth the extra cost to consider a lease or purchase of the e-hybrid 6 cylinder models? The 8 cylinder models are too expensive. What is your recommendation of the best and wisest of the V6 models?
Thomas what is your opinion about lack of automatic driving features in Panamera? BMW 5 and Mercedes E ( maybe this is not a direct competition) does have something like automatic line change and furthermore - BMW is testing fully auto driving features in Germany. Does the Porshe looses the competition with other brands or they just want to stick with driver's oriented car ?
I saw it yesterday..i didnt like it at all..i didnt see any difference from previous generation..its small..overpriced..i prefer mercedes amg gt 4 door..it looks more aggressive and great car..but this porsche...its like from 2018..by the way great video❤
Front looks really good. Is this sport design package? Great front lights. However it’s way way too expensive. For 911 it’s acceptable but not panamera. Especially the options. ACC costs like 100% more compared to Mercedes AMG GT 4door. Please show us next time how the assistance systems works in newer Porsches
7:15 so in this car your leg stiff just after about an hour drive like in the mercedes? or how far down can you put the front if the seat? will it be parallel to the floor?
Like the non-oversized wheel diameter here. Missing the analog rev pin/counter. No need for those screens (in any car), passenger side is a gimmick for 2 minutes... What is up with the all the high gloss piano black panels? Also that one-piece "molded" plastic "touch" panel on center dash is just cheap. Again, not Porsche specific, in all cars. I find it disgusting personally. Loved the review though :)
A very nice looking car. the subtle purple is very nice. Porsche is in trouble, sales are dropping, because their prices are astronomical, and the number of people who can afford them is thus shrinking. When my Dad bought his green 911 in 1970, it was only 10k instead of 5k for a Pontiac Fiero. Now, a Porsche is 4 times more than a Honda Accord. I am not a fan of the stop-start motor designs. They will never last. In order for any mechanical system to last a long time, it must be kept at a stable temperature, and starting and stopping will heat and cool the engine, causing a huge amount of wear. The Engineers are doing self-destructive things to achieve mileage standards. Bad trend, and it will be regretted 10 years from now.
buy 1 pay 3 . Why doesn't the engine lift up when you open the hood for that price? Then at least some music plays when you lock the car or something so important for driving characteristics
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This is our in-depth review of the 2025 all-new Porsche Panamera. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 all-new Panamera in Provence
00:23 all-new or facelift?
01:28 Length and technology
02:22 Porsche Active Ride
03:37 Engines: Base, GTS, Turbo?
05:19 Interior quality
06:40 Seats and comfort
08:19 Cockpit
12:26 Driver POV
13:40 Control details
14:22 Rear seats
17:31 Trunk / boot
19:34 Acceleration Autobahn
22:10 Suspension Active Ride test
25:33 Driving modes Hybrid
28:32 Overcompensating
32:04 Price
32:37 Fuel economy
33:39 My favorite Porsche?
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I’m not a fan of all this interior high gloss black in cars it’s so easy to get scratched even rubbing fingers across it can scratch it, well done both on the review as always 👍🏻
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Data & facts:
Porsche Panamera
Lager air intakes
Matrix LED, optional HD Matrix (Standard for Turbo)
Length
SWB 5,05 m 199“
LWB 5,20 m 205“
19-21“ wheels
Adaptive air suspension standard
optional Porsche Active Ride with hydraulic system (8.000 Euro extra), only possible with PHEV
optional rear-axle steering
12,6“ instruments
12,3“ infotainment
optional passenger screen
animal free interior with Race-Tex steering wheel and Pepita seats possible
Trunk 495 l or 17,4 cf
PHEV 430 l
Turbo Hybrid 420 l
Panamera (4) 2,9 l V6 BiTurbo 350 hp 5,1 s RWD 4,8 s AWD
4 E-Hybrid 2,9 l V6 470 hp 4,1 s
4S E-Hybrid 2,9 l V6 544 hp 3,7 s
GTS 4,0 l V8 500 hp 3,8 s
Turbo E-Hybrid 4,0 l V8 680 hp 3,2 s
Turbo S E-Hybrid 4,0 l V8 782 hp 2,9 s
battery 22 kWh net, 11 kW AC (2 h 40 min), better recuperation
Prices
entry around 100.000 Euro / dollars
With extensive spec: 180.000 (test vehicle in Provence color)
Possible: 250.000
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I’ve got a 2021 Panamera Turbo S Executive
Words cannot describe the awesomeness of this car!!!
Nice , congrats ! Dream car .
Let Lea drive and then we can hear the Thomasmeter. 😁
🤣👍 we should do that
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for sure ;)
That jawline adds 120 horsepower to that porsche
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Excellent review for a great car. Thanks, Thomas )
thanks my friend!
It's a great car, tough choice between that and the Taycan
Indeed ❤
Nice color! It's a good match for Porsche
Leah Meter was unimpressed with that acceleration.
thank god
If I buy the car, will she be provided?
Good presentation, congrat’ Thomas ! J’ai bien aimé aussi la lavande provençale de Lea au début de la vidéo !
merci beaucoup !
Always love your reviews Thomas. You've got the best job in the world!
Not mad on that piano 🎹 black😢; but love the 70s Pepita houndstooth fabric😊.
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Piano lack sucks big time.
Lack 🎉
Its a new car and you could see its already scratched... Just awful and you cant even spec anything else.
I know, I always like to have a piano available
I have to disagree with you about the fluidity of Chinese tech companies OS. Huawei's Harmony OS, Xiaomi's Hyper OS or Honor's magic ui are both very smooth to use. You must be living under a rock to say stuff like that, we are not in the 90's anymore @@n1ngnuo
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Awesome review as always, really great point made about fabric seats, the fact that probably no one else in this price range offers this option with this level of comfort along with heating+cooling(even for rear seats) so thanks a lot for pointing that out, this alone makes me put this car at the top of my wishlist. Cheers Thomas!
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The aggressive active ride might be best for passengers who are napping or trying to, on twisty sections?
Very professional presentation, thank you.
Nice to see Leah too.
My current car is a BMW 8 series V8 grand coupe. I did test drive the Panamera and yes, it’s high quality but more expensive unless you spend £,0000’s more.
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The amount of gloss black plastic, looks good for 2 minutes lol
Might make three minutes with a quick buff from some microfiber.
Nice video , cant wait see new GTS panamera review
Nice.
Leah is lovely. With her lavender, another flower for her 🥀
Would be nice to see your review on base Macan electric announced a couple of days ago.
When are you getting your hands on that?
Cheers! Not sure yet we ll keep u updated!
Front end on that Panamera looks good. The hybrid option is awesome and should sell well. Love the layout of instrumentation and screens that fit the contour of the dash. I love how Porsche is keeping the cockpit of these cars personal and bustling with flavor. Too many manufacturers have produced minimalistic interiors where everything is done through a touch screen and thus creates an impersonal connection to the driver. Driving a vehicle and trying to touch the touch screen while in motion is difficult and dangerous. I’m sure those manufacturers did not have people driving and touching the touch screen during the research, otherwise they would have realized that this is a bad idea to implement everything through a touchscreen. Porsche has done a nice job of blending basic functionality with latest tech.
This is the first Panamera, I would consider buying over a new 911.
Great review Thomas & Lea. Thanks so much & love your style & presentation. This model is wonderful as you would expect - a little concerned about care on the central console. - think they need to dull it down a bit - maybe leather. Great colour - I think I prefer darker - just a personal choice.
Bless & look forward to the next one. Badger U.K.
cheers m8 !
Shame that Porsche pulled the plug out of the Panamera Sport Turismo, imho it was the nicest looking Panamera.
I now wish that I had gone ahead and ordered an ST when I got an allocation in 2022. The only reason I didn't was that the power/memory steering wheel column had become unavailable. I instead bought a Cayenne just to get the power steering wheel column but the Panamera would have been much more enjoyable to drive and much easier to enter for my short wife. I doubt that I would buy a non-ST Panamera due to the high lift-over into the cargo area and I vastly preferred the look of the ST.
Just for fun I built a Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid for a grand total of $286,565. Has almost every option you could think of, $58,070 in options. That's just crazy!
insane
Pretty sure, a lot of clients would pay extra a lot of money for lack of piano black option. It's crazy they don't offer such an option.
There a lot to like about PHEV, I think. The downside is that you still need a plug, and more often, than with a BEV, if you want to get as much all-electric driving as possible around the city of B roads.
I wish the design looked like the Taycan more. Or if they put a normal engine inside the Taycan I would buy it.
How’s the comfort compared to the S-Class or 7 series? Can it keep up with the new active ride?
@@Fhke528 Tire noise is loud
Porsche is always a level above merc and bmw.
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The previous Panamera looked better and more elegant. The oversized headlights in particular. I know they say it's an all new model but it seems like a face lift that cut the previous model harmony.
I also purely despise the silly gear lever position.
It's dumb. Keep you silly EV antics to your EVs. Mercedes for example didn't just randomly move their start button to the centre console because they do that on their EVs. I don't even understand the logic behind moving it there. It's stupid.
In avoiding to go the Mercedes gear stalk route out of pettiness, they're only now 2nd to the Cybertruck position wise. Appalling.
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Aplauding to physical buttons, pepita cloth and integrated screens and cursing the piano black BS😂
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Nice video Thomas and Lea! Yes this is technological overkill imo.
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The colour is great
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Love Porsche but not a fan of their newer interiors. For their recent price increases, they should look more premium.
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@@Nickbaldeagle02 I get that - but if I'm paying around $110,000 for the standard Panamera, it's not asking too much for the baseline interior to feel a little more expensive.
The racetex pattern is a little grandpa-esque but I'd still pick them over every other material... if there are no other colour options.
@17:38 Best sentiments ever!
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😅 i love it when u go to small details like how the window switch feels, makes me appreciate porsche quality more
way to go !
The plastic switches?
Plastic switches are fine at this price now?
Any decent car with a 2 step window switch sounds just like that....th does that have to do with "Porsche quality" ?? You can tell it's also pretty thin as well, cuz the thicc and thinner switches have unique sounds to them. Ridiculous glazing.
wow I was not expecting that sunroof to actually open...ie actually be a sunroof. good job Porsche.
Panamera is the most underatted Porsche model.
Thomas your disappointment the panamera acceleration didn’t make Leah squeal like the new 911 did was hilarious. New acceleration benchmark is required regarding this!
hehe =)
Yes I agree the piano kind for the lower part does provide more pain than pleasure. Plus you need to clean it regularly. Wonder why not having it as the canopy or the seat material which would maintain some continuity in the inside design. Aside this basic comment, what a car. Thank you again for your video.
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Fun review!
enjoy :)
I thought it was a Renault Fluence from the thumbnail.
The new suspension system will definitely eat up tires quicker. I’m sure it will improve the comfort of bumpy rides also. No free lunch…
I like seeing the night view of the cockpit (8:50); please show this on all car reviews! Regarding the passenger screen, I wish they'd let the driver see the passenger screen; it's rather absurd that they think the driver is fine looking at the center infotainment screen but not at the passenger screen. The driver, after all, looks frequently at his/her right-side exterior mirror, sometimes for several seconds if there's something that needs attention on the car's rear side.
hm but for what reason does the driver need to check the passenger display?
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Love those seats
I think I'm going to order one. You should call Porsche and ask for a commission.
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Good review, thanks. But what is going on with these crazy prices… it wasn’t that long ago things were a bit more sensible.. I wish car companies wouldn’t just take their customers for granted… I’ll wait until it drops by 50% in a year… :)
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Thank you, Thomas!
Great video 👍👍👍
Cheers 🙏
Please show us the sound system like before Mr Thomas 🎉
Ugly gear selector, removed fancy cup holders, less natural materials and more displays. Seems like Porsche tried to make car cheaper to manufacture but trying to sell it for more.
Can you share your thoughts on the topic of ride comfort provided by the Active Ride option? My understanding is that it should handle bumps/broken tarmac very well (the wheels would follow the bump/hole, while the cabin stays flat - they call it sky hook). Also the system should reduce head-toss significantly. So maybe this option would be good for our not so perfect riads (as they are in Germany)?
"Lea meter" didn't waste her energy because of the weight of this tank 😅. BTW @autogefuehl you forgot to mention the total weight of this tank?
I thought we were going to get a Leah presenting special edittion at the start Is it cheaper for car companies to offer standard leather interiors. The Pepita interior option is £1242!!!
Question, not sure if you had really "Active Control" ON as you were in hybrid mode, not in "Normal" mode. Or I am missing something?
Lea's getting jaded from all the fast cars you test.
I love sedans!
Great review and it's a lovely car but why doesn't Porsche also offer a 100% animal free electric Macan ? ... it's really annoying they don't !!.
Cheers! Ya indeed it is weird, to me it seems that in Northern America, the Macan is always with animal skin, in Germany and UK for example you can get leatherette seats as base and then have to opt for Racetex steering wheel. Why do they make it that complicated and not even an offer for NA market...
Panamera even offers next to the shown fabric seats to go base leatherette seats and get the Racetex steering wheel as single option.
Then the leatherette seats on the Panamera are not available in UK and Germany - great logic =)
Fake electic shifting is dumb. But companies are doing whatever they can just to make the convertion from combustion to elelctric/hybrid more appealing to the masses. But it doesn't really make sense. Beautiful car, though. I love the Panamera. I have an A7, which is a direct competitor (a bit cheaoer for sure), so I like bigger sporty luxury cars.
As I explained, it is no fake electric shifting here. The electric motor is behind the gearbox, so the vehicle has to shift in no matter mode it is in.
I remember how I used to say the Panamera was ugly all those years ago when the 1st generation launched. I wonder if those that thought it was good looking back then have changed their minds as I have.
Agree, first Panamera I didnt like, this one looks cool
so base 911 Carrera starting price is higher than base Panamera, and base Panamera is higher than base Cayenne. It gets less expensive as the car gets bigger and vice versa.
Curious about ride quality on an uneven surfaces, like within the city. Does it feel superbly comfortable or only slightly better than a car without that system?
Good color choice. The quick rise is probably for the old folks.
Leah did a very good job. 👌👏😄
I am a simple man, I see a beautiful... car, I click
Chill bro, it's his daughter and she's like 17
@nomansland120 what if he's 17 lol
@nomansland120 not sure from which source you took that info, but I guess we take that as a compliment for her beauty
@nomansland120
Looks like someone is jealous of Leah's innocent charm!
Lia meter was an option that had not been selected when configuring this Panamera
Thomas you have driven the base RWD, the 4, the e-4, and the e-4S. Is the feel of the base just fine or if personally affordable is it worth the extra cost to consider a lease or purchase of the e-hybrid 6 cylinder models? The 8 cylinder models are too expensive. What is your recommendation of the best and wisest of the V6 models?
Base fine. Go pure
@@autogefuehl Thanks Thomas! I have a 2021 base 4 cylinder Cayman that is plenty of fun and fuel efficient. Base rules!
Thomas what is your opinion about lack of automatic driving features in Panamera? BMW 5 and Mercedes E ( maybe this is not a direct competition) does have something like automatic line change and furthermore - BMW is testing fully auto driving features in Germany. Does the Porshe looses the competition with other brands or they just want to stick with driver's oriented car ?
yeah indeed they rather have the self-driving focus
I saw it yesterday..i didnt like it at all..i didnt see any difference from previous generation..its small..overpriced..i prefer mercedes amg gt 4 door..it looks more aggressive and great car..but this porsche...its like from 2018..by the way great video❤
thanks !
V8 with 500 HP?
Was Porsche robbed and all their technology went back 20 years? 😂
Front looks really good. Is this sport design package? Great front lights. However it’s way way too expensive. For 911 it’s acceptable but not panamera. Especially the options. ACC costs like 100% more compared to Mercedes AMG GT 4door. Please show us next time how the assistance systems works in newer Porsches
Looks more like vented seats... and not actual cooling. Is the venting function actually enough on a really hot summer day?
That's a very impressive vehicle
Beautiful ❤
7:15 so in this car your leg stiff just after about an hour drive like in the mercedes? or how far down can you put the front if the seat? will it be parallel to the floor?
Like the non-oversized wheel diameter here. Missing the analog rev pin/counter. No need for those screens (in any car), passenger side is a gimmick for 2 minutes... What is up with the all the high gloss piano black panels? Also that one-piece "molded" plastic "touch" panel on center dash is just cheap. Again, not Porsche specific, in all cars. I find it disgusting personally. Loved the review though :)
Agree to all
Sooner or later Thomas jr will join the video and evaluate the car for family use too
Thomas can you tell us exactly how much the power drops when batery discharges as a range?
trying to find out...
A very nice looking car. the subtle purple is very nice. Porsche is in trouble, sales are dropping, because their prices are astronomical, and the number of people who can afford them is thus shrinking. When my Dad bought his green 911 in 1970, it was only 10k instead of 5k for a Pontiac Fiero. Now, a Porsche is 4 times more than a Honda Accord.
I am not a fan of the stop-start motor designs. They will never last. In order for any mechanical system to last a long time, it must be kept at a stable temperature, and starting and stopping will heat and cool the engine, causing a huge amount of wear. The Engineers are doing self-destructive things to achieve mileage standards. Bad trend, and it will be regretted 10 years from now.
25:55 "That would have very expensive if the police saw that". That's a common way to merge in some US cities, it's terrible.
No ISO fix in the rear seats?
the price list says it does, I dont see the symbols either though in the car. I gotta re-check
Oh my god! What a beautiful thing. ❤❤
Always been the ugly duckling in the family. Massive depreciation. Best to be bought gently used if at all. Thank you for your comprehensive reviews!
Highly appreciated! Please recommend our channel 😎
buy 1 pay 3 . Why doesn't the engine lift up when you open the hood for that price? Then at least some music plays when you lock the car or something so important for driving characteristics
Car makers continuing to create solutions for problems that don't exist. That rising suspension is an expensive waste of money.
Thomas, too long since I watched one of your reviews!
welcome back !
Will the Turbo S model have an option for carbon fiber instead of the piano black ?
You can have brushed aluminium or carbon fibre. You could have just gone on the Porsche website like I just did.